WEBVTT - The Bolt Report | 27 October 0:00:14.860 --> 0:00:20.200 Tonight, another politician grubbly exploiting the attack on MP Helen Haynes. 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:23.840 Is the Prime Minister waiting for something like what happened 0:00:23.860 --> 0:00:27.500 to Dr Helen Haynes to occur to my office, to me, 0:00:27.950 --> 0:00:30.130 for him to take our request seriously? 0:00:30.710 --> 0:00:34.489 Why this Albanese government minister is the last person to 0:00:34.530 --> 0:00:38.940 now teach politicians to be nicer. Also tonight, the prime 0:00:38.950 --> 0:00:41.240 minister shows how hard it is to even get him 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:44.260 to admit to what could be just an honest mistake, 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:48.159 never mind admit to a lie. Plus Matt Canavan and 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:52.710 lots more. But first, before I show you the latest 0:00:52.870 --> 0:00:56.350 Chris Bowen scandals that should really finish him as our 0:00:56.410 --> 0:01:00.110 climate change minister, First, an insight into how it's got 0:01:00.150 --> 0:01:03.280 away with it for so long. Our facts don't actually 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:07.300 count with global warming, true believers. On Saturday in Sydney, 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:12.720 leftist podcaster Hannah Ferguson addressed a crowd to demand more 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:17.620 action to stop this alleged climate crisis. We are here today. 0:01:17.470 --> 0:01:20.490 And we have hundreds if not thousands of young people. 0:01:20.390 --> 0:01:25.510 Standing in the shade in October because we can't stand in. 0:01:25.430 --> 0:01:27.110 The sun because of the overwhelming heat. 0:01:27.860 --> 0:01:32.410 The bizarre thing that this overwhelming heat she was talking 0:01:32.450 --> 0:01:36.430 about was, as she spoke, somewhere between a beautiful 22 0:01:36.430 --> 0:01:42.250 degrees and a balmy 24. So that's about the long-term 0:01:42.330 --> 0:01:44.880 average for that time of day in that time of year. 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:49.160 A normal spring day, in other words. But to a 0:01:49.180 --> 0:01:54.820 global warming believer, even normal is now climate hell. Which 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:58.980 brings me to Chris Bowen. Now, Bowen is not just 0:01:59.140 --> 0:02:02.820 blind to facts, he's also incompetent. So even if you 0:02:02.860 --> 0:02:06.930 believe there is a climate crisis, which there's not, and 0:02:06.990 --> 0:02:09.950 even if you believe we could stop it, which we can't, 0:02:10.870 --> 0:02:14.049 surely even Labor MPs must now figure that Bowen's got 0:02:14.150 --> 0:02:18.010 to go. Now you just take for a start his 0:02:18.130 --> 0:02:23.570 extraordinary run this week of embarrassments. Remember its climate conference 0:02:23.650 --> 0:02:26.670 in Fiji and Tuvalu this month, which turned into such 0:02:26.690 --> 0:02:30.710 a farce and a snoozefest? Bowen invited world leaders but 0:02:30.730 --> 0:02:34.049 got just two to come from outside the Pacific, the 0:02:34.090 --> 0:02:39.930 leaders of mighty East Timor and world power, the Maldives. Now, 0:02:39.990 --> 0:02:42.850 Bowen told us three weeks ago the cost of this 0:02:42.990 --> 0:02:44.880 flop was about $ 20 million. 0:02:46.250 --> 0:02:49.130 Is it 20, as reported, 20 million, or is it more? 0:02:49.169 --> 0:02:53.010 Yeah, well, that's... Yeah, no, no, that's in keeping with 0:02:53.050 --> 0:02:55.010 the estimates at this point, yeah. 0:02:56.310 --> 0:02:59.810 Now, $ 20 million is already bad enough, but yesterday, Bowen's 0:03:00.060 --> 0:03:04.720 own department admitted in Senate estimates it actually cost much, 0:03:04.860 --> 0:03:05.500 much more. 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:12.980 To date, we have contracted commitments associated with pre-cop delivery 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:20.419 of $ 34. 6 million, $ 35 million? 0:03:20.419 --> 0:03:25.679 $ 35 million? Nearly? $ 35 million? No, look, it's true. It 0:03:25.700 --> 0:03:27.840 might turn out to be less than that because so 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:31.179 few people turned up. Few of them were budgeted for. 0:03:31.180 --> 0:03:33.380 $ 35 million, though. And then there was a blowout to 0:03:33.460 --> 0:03:37.490 Bowen's plan to give billions of dollars in handouts to 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:41.270 help people, mainly rich ones, buy home batteries. Another blunder. 0:03:41.590 --> 0:03:45.340 This scheme... had already blown out to triple the original 0:03:45.380 --> 0:03:51.100 budget of $ 2. 3 billion. Triple that. And Bowen's department admitted 0:03:51.140 --> 0:03:53.760 last night the scheme had been too generous and was 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:58.340 already running again out of cash. It just goes on. 0:03:59.380 --> 0:04:03.120 Also today, news that almost a quarter of the wind, 0:04:03.180 --> 0:04:05.640 solar and battery projects that Bowen is back to replace 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:08.850 the coal generators about to close have left his scheme. 0:04:10.050 --> 0:04:13.910 We need the power of some replacement. They're off. The 0:04:13.930 --> 0:04:17.190 cost is just too much, you see. And unbelievably, there 0:04:17.210 --> 0:04:21.070 was a fourth flop this week. You know, we now 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:26.479 learn that Bone not only spent $ 2 million on broadcasting 0:04:26.500 --> 0:04:28.960 services for a stud climate summit, we knew that already, 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:35.700 but his official YouTube channel attracted just 90 subscribers. Just 0:04:35.700 --> 0:04:41.320 90 for Bone's taxpayer-funded... blog about how he's saving the planet, 0:04:41.820 --> 0:04:44.340 when even a vlog by a woman filming her pet 0:04:44.460 --> 0:04:50.140 rats got over 10 times more. So that's four Bowen 0:04:50.220 --> 0:04:55.440 flops just this week, and it's still only Tuesday. And 0:04:55.460 --> 0:04:57.300 this keeps happening with him, as you know. I mean, 0:04:57.339 --> 0:04:59.730 last week, Bowen admitted to the biggest blowout of all. 0:05:00.490 --> 0:05:03.750 The Snowy 2.0 scheme went from an estimated cost of 0:05:03.750 --> 0:05:07.730 $ 2 billion when Malcolm Turnbull first thought of it, the 0:05:08.220 --> 0:05:16.050 foolish man, and to now $ 25 billion, or really $ 50 0:05:15.310 --> 0:05:17.089 billion when you add the wires to hook it up. 0:05:17.089 --> 0:05:21.219 $ 50 billion. Now, this, of course, is kind of battery 0:05:21.339 --> 0:05:23.640 using wind and solar power to pump water uphill and 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:28.250 let it fall again when you need hydro power. $ 50 billion. Now, 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:32.510 add all these flops. To Bowen's many other disasters that 0:05:32.529 --> 0:05:35.750 have listed over the years, especially the $ 9 billion he 0:05:35.790 --> 0:05:40.070 committed to developing green hydrogen, a miracle green gas made 0:05:40.110 --> 0:05:44.850 from water with massive amounts of green energy. Bowen drank 0:05:45.050 --> 0:05:45.950 that Kool-Aid. 0:05:46.790 --> 0:05:50.910 Our green hydrogen future is fundamental to that clean energy future. 0:05:51.980 --> 0:05:55.440 But now even Andrew Forrest, the billionaire who helped persuade 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:59.240 Bowen that green hydrogen is going to work and save us, 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:02.710 save the planet... Even he has now scrapped his own project. 0:06:02.730 --> 0:06:07.240 So Bowen is trying to con you into thinking he 0:06:07.260 --> 0:06:11.840 was always a bit sceptical, always, despite throwing out $ 9 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:12.730 billion at it. 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:16.370 I never quite bought all the hype on green hydrogen. 0:06:17.930 --> 0:06:20.650 I get it. By now you're probably, you know, eyes 0:06:20.770 --> 0:06:24.870 are spinning or glazing over from all these billions, billions 0:06:24.930 --> 0:06:27.690 wasted on this, billions wasted on that. It's like fantasy money, 0:06:27.750 --> 0:06:30.690 what does it mean? So let me make it personal 0:06:31.650 --> 0:06:38.109 to help you relate to this unforgivable waste. Bowen is 0:06:38.170 --> 0:06:40.520 even spending your money to send people around the world 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:42.700 to say that climate change is terrible and Bowen will 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:47.220 help stop it. They're often unqualified people, but as long 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:49.960 as they repeat his bull, they get all this international 0:06:50.020 --> 0:06:53.589 travel and why wouldn't they? Examples. 0:06:54.529 --> 0:06:54.630 One. 0:06:55.510 --> 0:06:58.030 Bowen paid for former Labor Prime Minister Julia Gillard to 0:06:58.050 --> 0:07:02.690 go to his climate conference to back him up. Julia Gillard. Two, 0:07:02.950 --> 0:07:05.779 Bowen paid for friendly union officials to go as well. 0:07:06.060 --> 0:07:11.840 I mean, union officials. Three, Bowen also has a climate 0:07:11.860 --> 0:07:15.310 change ambassador spending nearly $ 150, 000 of your money in just 0:07:15.430 --> 0:07:19.450 one year on travel around the world. Four, because it 0:07:19.470 --> 0:07:24.620 keeps going on, Bowen is giving $ 650, 000 of your money 0:07:24.660 --> 0:07:27.660 to send Aboriginal Australians and young Australians to go with 0:07:27.700 --> 0:07:31.100 him to next month's climate conference in Turkey and babble 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:37.860 his lines, keep him company, look decorative at the Australian pavilion. 0:07:37.860 --> 0:07:42.720 $ 20, 000 each. And five, he's got this youth climate champion, 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:44.440 another $ 50, 000 for her to say stuff like this. 0:07:47.730 --> 0:07:51.710 Hi, I'm Sally Higgins, the COP31 Presidency Youth Climate Champion. 0:07:52.100 --> 0:07:55.940 So we're seeing climate impacts all through our lives. And 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:58.900 for example, even in our food systems, we see that 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:02.440 climate change is impacting our ability to produce food and fibre. 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:06.990 Even our food systems, she's wrong, of course, just like 0:08:07.050 --> 0:08:09.170 Hannah Ferguson was wrong at the top of the show. 0:08:09.930 --> 0:08:13.310 The facts show that the Australian Bureau of Agricultural Resources 0:08:13.830 --> 0:08:19.130 Economics and Sciences estimated that Australia's agricultural production value last 0:08:19.190 --> 0:08:24.770 financial year just ended. It would hit a record $ 101 billion. 0:08:25.060 --> 0:08:29.720 We are actually growing more, not less. Or we're earning 0:08:29.740 --> 0:08:33.440 more from it. There is no crisis there. But, of course, 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:36.470 that's not a useful fact. So to climate crusaders in 0:08:36.970 --> 0:08:42.059 Bowen's taxpayer-funded army, it's not a fact at all. There 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:45.520 has to be a climate crisis, whether the temperature is 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:50.619 24 degrees in spring or crops are setting new records 0:08:50.780 --> 0:08:53.310 or hurricanes are falling in numbers. There's got to be 0:08:53.330 --> 0:08:55.650 a crisis, otherwise they don't get money and they don't 0:08:55.690 --> 0:08:57.650 get the travel, et cetera, et cetera. And you know 0:08:57.670 --> 0:09:02.010 the ultimate madness? I'm sure you know it already. I've 0:09:02.290 --> 0:09:07.380 said it often enough. Nothing Australia does makes any noticeable 0:09:07.500 --> 0:09:11.600 difference to the climate anyway. Ask any of those crusaders. 0:09:11.980 --> 0:09:16.230 They can't tell you. Our emissions are too small. So 0:09:16.260 --> 0:09:18.990 Bowen is spending billions of dollars we don't have to 0:09:19.030 --> 0:09:21.890 make no difference that anyone can measure to a climate 0:09:21.929 --> 0:09:31.600 crisis we can't see. Why is he still there? Now, 0:09:31.620 --> 0:09:36.120 we do need a fact check on this madness from 0:09:36.140 --> 0:09:39.490 a real expert, and joining me is the former head 0:09:39.530 --> 0:09:43.510 of Australia's then National Climate Centre and a former consultant 0:09:43.530 --> 0:09:48.400 to the World Meteorological Organisation, William Kinnamith. William, great to 0:09:48.460 --> 0:09:51.520 see you again. There are three keys to the global 0:09:51.540 --> 0:09:55.870 warming scare, of course. Global warming is dangerous. Humans cause 0:09:55.910 --> 0:09:59.530 almost all of it and we can stop it. Let's 0:09:59.590 --> 0:10:02.040 tick them off. for viewers, drawing on a fascinating paper 0:10:02.059 --> 0:10:04.600 that you've just written for the Climate Intelligence Group. First, 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:09.990 is global warming dangerous, or is there maybe a benefit 0:10:10.030 --> 0:10:11.969 or two that we should take into consideration? 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:15.760 Andrew, there's very good benefits coming out of the global 0:10:15.780 --> 0:10:19.110 warming because what we're finding, we've got now 45 years 0:10:19.190 --> 0:10:22.450 of very good climate data, global climate data over the 0:10:22.490 --> 0:10:26.070 satellite period. And what that's showing is that in the 0:10:26.110 --> 0:10:32.250 northern hemisphere, in the agricultural areas, the spring thaw is 0:10:32.570 --> 0:10:37.230 arriving earlier and the autumn freeze is coming later. So 0:10:37.309 --> 0:10:40.270 you've got a much longer growing season. And that's part 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:44.050 of the reason why... NASA satellites are showing a greening 0:10:44.070 --> 0:10:47.670 of the planet because the biosphere is reacting to this 0:10:47.809 --> 0:10:51.530 much longer growing season. And we're getting not only a 0:10:51.929 --> 0:10:54.650 much more vigorous environment, but we're also getting much more 0:10:54.690 --> 0:10:55.370 food production. 0:10:57.070 --> 0:11:00.410 And that is a very, very important consideration, of course. 0:11:01.070 --> 0:11:03.490 When the planet was colder in the Middle Ages, of course, 0:11:03.510 --> 0:11:08.810 a lot of people were starving. Second, do humans cause 0:11:08.850 --> 0:11:12.120 almost all the warming we've seen? And here, of course, 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:14.020 is where your paper is so interesting. 0:11:15.500 --> 0:11:20.590 Well, I'd suggest, Andrew, that carbon dioxide causes, changing carbon 0:11:20.610 --> 0:11:24.329 dioxide causes almost no influence on the climate at all. 0:11:24.990 --> 0:11:29.030 A couple of reasons for that. One is that the 0:11:29.130 --> 0:11:34.360 IPCC talks about annual global average temperature. And so what 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:37.140 we're trying to do is to reduce the increase in 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:42.090 that by 1.5 degrees. Every year, there's an annual cycle 0:11:42.110 --> 0:11:45.390 in the global temperature with a range of about three degrees. 0:11:45.970 --> 0:11:48.929 And that's much more than what we're actually trying to 0:11:49.190 --> 0:11:49.730 stop the. 0:11:51.450 --> 0:11:51.850 Rise. 0:11:52.670 --> 0:11:56.770 The other point about that is that the warmest time 0:11:56.809 --> 0:11:59.729 of the year for the globe is in the Northern 0:11:59.770 --> 0:12:03.620 Hemisphere summer. And that's the time when carbon dioxide is 0:12:03.660 --> 0:12:05.880 being taken up by the plants and so forth of 0:12:05.900 --> 0:12:09.179 the Northern Hemisphere and the concentration in the atmosphere is 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:13.040 actually decreasing. So the temperature and carbon dioxide are actually 0:12:13.100 --> 0:12:16.650 out of phase. And so the third point, of course, 0:12:16.690 --> 0:12:20.130 is that the fastest warming pattern on the planet is, 0:12:20.210 --> 0:12:23.470 in fact, over the Arctic in winter, when there's almost 0:12:23.530 --> 0:12:27.810 no sunshine, there's no solar radiation coming in, so there's 0:12:27.870 --> 0:12:30.680 no greenhouse effect, and so you can't have an enhanced 0:12:30.740 --> 0:12:35.580 greenhouse effect. So carbon dioxide really has got no influence 0:12:35.900 --> 0:12:36.459 on our climate. 0:12:37.890 --> 0:12:39.790 Now, I know that there are a lot of experts, 0:12:39.970 --> 0:12:43.040 many of them pay to think that way, would disagree 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:45.500 with you, but you're retired. You can say what the 0:12:45.540 --> 0:12:48.599 hell you like without fear of losing your job or 0:12:48.620 --> 0:12:48.860 your grant. 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:52.800 The reason they disagree is because of these computer models 0:12:53.340 --> 0:12:56.800 and the way they put carbon dioxide into computer models 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:02.490 is logically inconsistent. They say that carbon dioxide is going 0:13:02.530 --> 0:13:06.620 to warm the atmosphere, but in fact... the greenhouse gases 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:09.640 of the atmosphere, mainly water vapour, they actually emit more 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:13.810 radiation than they absorb. The greenhouse gases tend to cool 0:13:13.830 --> 0:13:16.630 the atmosphere. It doesn't cool, of course, because we're getting 0:13:16.670 --> 0:13:19.370 heat and latent energy coming from the surface, flowing from 0:13:19.390 --> 0:13:22.170 the surface all the time. So there's a basic problem 0:13:22.330 --> 0:13:23.290 with the computer models. 0:13:25.770 --> 0:13:28.740 And, of course, it's been long notorious that the computer 0:13:28.780 --> 0:13:31.980 models don't properly factor in the effect of cloud formation 0:13:32.660 --> 0:13:37.630 in them. Now, lastly... and this is related, of course, 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:40.900 is it in our power to stop the warming, even 0:13:40.940 --> 0:13:44.040 if we did think it was dangerous? And I came 0:13:44.059 --> 0:13:48.040 across a really interesting graphic tracking carbon dioxide concentrations in 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:53.010 the atmosphere, along with all the UN climate conferences over 0:13:53.030 --> 0:13:56.470 the years, and of course, Chris Bowens, President of Negotiations 0:13:56.490 --> 0:14:00.810 for the next one. I can't see any interruption in 0:14:00.830 --> 0:14:02.920 the steady growth of emissions as a result. There's a 0:14:02.940 --> 0:14:06.020 little blip when You know, the world went into lockdowns 0:14:06.100 --> 0:14:08.760 and all that with the COVID pandemic, but I don't 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:13.500 see the conferences making any real difference to that. 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:19.380 Well, carbon dioxide is just doing its normal thing and increasing, 0:14:19.470 --> 0:14:23.090 and it's increasing because the oceans are warming, and so 0:14:23.110 --> 0:14:25.650 there's much more carbon dioxide coming out of the oceans 0:14:25.990 --> 0:14:29.770 than what there previously was when the oceans were cooler, say, 0:14:29.790 --> 0:14:31.150 during the Little Ice Age period. 0:14:31.730 --> 0:14:32.010 And so. 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:36.300 Carbon dioxide largely follows the temperature there. 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:40.970 It's not the other way around. And, in fact, that 0:14:41.010 --> 0:14:45.830 was the lesson of the previous times that the world 0:14:46.910 --> 0:14:49.890 increased in temperature. I'm going back hundreds of thousands of years. 0:14:50.150 --> 0:14:53.560 I tried to point that out to Al Gore at 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:58.280 a climate conference where I was foolishly asked to ask 0:14:58.300 --> 0:15:00.760 a question and he just went nuts. He didn't want 0:15:00.820 --> 0:15:05.250 to admit to it. Chris Bowen's approach then, what do 0:15:05.270 --> 0:15:05.880 you make of it? 0:15:07.390 --> 0:15:10.970 Well, I think this whole business of trying to reduce 0:15:11.050 --> 0:15:14.390 carbon or decarbonise our industries is actually just sending us 0:15:14.450 --> 0:15:17.660 all broke because essentially it's not going to make any 0:15:17.940 --> 0:15:22.120 difference at all. We're putting a lot of our money 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:27.350 into these schemes to decarbonise the atmosphere and and industry 0:15:27.370 --> 0:15:30.070 and does not make any difference at all. It's just 0:15:30.550 --> 0:15:33.450 using money that could be done for much more beneficial 0:15:33.990 --> 0:15:39.210 purposes in this hope to try and change the climate, 0:15:39.390 --> 0:15:40.930 which it's not going to do. 0:15:42.550 --> 0:15:45.850 It is so foolish. Books will be written about this 0:15:45.850 --> 0:15:48.630 100 years from now, about this madness. It would be 0:15:49.070 --> 0:15:52.340 put in equivalent to burning witches or something. I don't know. 0:15:53.260 --> 0:15:57.030 William Kinnaman, thank you so much for your time. After 0:15:57.070 --> 0:16:01.260 the break, amazing footage showing just how hard it is 0:16:01.300 --> 0:16:04.540 for the Prime Minister to admit to even probably an 0:16:04.580 --> 0:16:12.500 honest mistake. Matt Canavan after this. Look, incredible proof today 0:16:12.540 --> 0:16:15.140 of how hard it is for Anthony Albanese to admit 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:19.800 he was wrong, let alone that he lied, you know. 0:16:20.620 --> 0:16:22.950 We've seen, of course, how the Prime Minister has claimed 0:16:23.110 --> 0:16:26.780 he didn't fall off his stage and He didn't lie 0:16:26.830 --> 0:16:29.450 when he promised more than 50 times not to hit 0:16:29.510 --> 0:16:32.570 us with housing taxes. Just changed his mind. How he 0:16:32.610 --> 0:16:34.950 last week even claimed a dirt sheet that he put 0:16:35.050 --> 0:16:38.980 out on MP Helen Haynes was in fact actually praise 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:43.540 for a woman of integrity. But in this case, all 0:16:43.580 --> 0:16:46.460 he needed to do was to own up what you 0:16:46.500 --> 0:16:49.320 could say was an innocent mistake or at worst, you know, 0:16:49.340 --> 0:16:53.330 just a very sloppy bit of excuse making. Last month, 0:16:53.950 --> 0:16:58.250 Albanese claimed the dodgy $ 6 million grant that he gave 0:16:58.270 --> 0:17:00.950 to the Marrickville Golf Club was for this reason. 0:17:01.790 --> 0:17:06.570 When it floods in Marrickville, raw sewage flows into the 0:17:06.609 --> 0:17:07.230 Cooks River. 0:17:07.830 --> 0:17:10.230 That is what the funding is for. 0:17:11.550 --> 0:17:15.280 Now, last night at Senate Estimates, his own department staff said, actually, 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:18.830 that it didn't have anything to do with the sewage, so... Look, 0:17:18.890 --> 0:17:21.470 the Prime Minister had nowhere to go, caught short. The 0:17:21.510 --> 0:17:25.750 opposition today went for his throat. But Albanese still couldn't 0:17:25.790 --> 0:17:29.770 just straight off the bat, front up, I made a mistake, 0:17:29.830 --> 0:17:30.490 couldn't say that. 0:17:31.750 --> 0:17:35.770 The Prime Minister told this House his $ 6 million taxpayer-funded 0:17:35.810 --> 0:17:39.930 grant to Marrickville Golf Club was to fix sewerage flows into. 0:17:39.770 --> 0:17:40.510 The Cooks River. 0:17:40.730 --> 0:17:44.629 Last week, the Department of Infrastructure confirmed to a Senate 0:17:44.710 --> 0:17:47.840 inquiry sewerage works were not in the scope of the 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:51.900 $ 6 million grant. This was confirmed again at Senate Estimates 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:55.560 last night. Will the Prime Minister give Australians a straight answer, 0:17:55.580 --> 0:17:59.980 admit he misled the House and correct the record? 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:03.679 Sewage issues are a long-standing concern on this site and 0:18:03.740 --> 0:18:08.820 I'm advised that in September 2025, that is after we 0:18:08.859 --> 0:18:12.700 had made the commitment, the New South Wales Government committed 0:18:12.780 --> 0:18:15.760 funding towards the sewage-related aspects of the club. 0:18:17.230 --> 0:18:21.780 He twisted, he turned, he obfuscated, and it took a long, 0:18:21.859 --> 0:18:26.439 long time, repeated questioning before Albanese finally coughed up the truth, 0:18:27.160 --> 0:18:30.619 or is it, that yes, I had been. 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:32.620 Wrong. 0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:37.230 It was not correct to save. that the federal grant 0:18:37.470 --> 0:18:44.280 would deal with the Sewer Row, well, to quote the 0:18:44.390 --> 0:18:48.119 State Government media release of 17 September 2025, I assume 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:51.939 it's from the State Government, putting an end to Sewer 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:54.600 Row's marital golf course to get a whole lot better. 0:18:55.220 --> 0:18:58.020 After we made the commitment to the club, which included 0:18:58.180 --> 0:19:01.440 fixing this issue, which has been an issue since 1947, 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:04.100 the State Government have stepped in. 0:19:04.619 --> 0:19:05.720 That is a good thing. 0:19:06.140 --> 0:19:10.420 I was not aware of the state government grant. Why 0:19:10.460 --> 0:19:11.100 would I be? 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:16.510 Well, bottle that one for future posterity. I mean, it's crazy. 0:19:16.810 --> 0:19:19.330 It made me wonder, you know, is it that it's 0:19:19.350 --> 0:19:21.790 got a bit of imposter syndrome, that he's not really 0:19:21.850 --> 0:19:24.090 cut out to be Prime Minister, that he doesn't dare? 0:19:24.900 --> 0:19:27.440 give any sign that he could be wrong or something? 0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:29.960 Is that what it is, the lying and the this 0:19:30.020 --> 0:19:32.180 and the that and the twisting? Is that really what 0:19:32.220 --> 0:19:34.639 it is? I mean, a really confident person would say, yeah, 0:19:34.790 --> 0:19:37.070 I got it wrong, you know, and everyone's like, oh, well, 0:19:37.270 --> 0:19:41.350 good on you, but he just can't do it. Anyway, 0:19:41.630 --> 0:19:43.510 more to come on that story, I'm sure. Joining me 0:19:43.609 --> 0:19:46.670 a short while ago was our Tuesday regular commentator, Matt Canavan, 0:19:46.690 --> 0:19:49.949 the Nationals leader. Matt Canavan, thank you so much for 0:19:50.020 --> 0:19:55.310 joining me. What does this tell you, Anthony Albanese's unbelievable 0:19:55.810 --> 0:19:58.570 reluctance to simply say, I made a mistake? 0:20:01.430 --> 0:20:04.090 Well, look, it's a pattern of behaviour, Andrew, a pattern 0:20:04.109 --> 0:20:06.879 of behaviour from a Prime Minister where It seems easier 0:20:06.900 --> 0:20:09.150 for a dentist to pull out teeth than it is 0:20:09.210 --> 0:20:12.370 to pull out the truth from our Prime Minister. Time 0:20:12.390 --> 0:20:18.190 and time again, he has a hard relationship with the truth, 0:20:18.670 --> 0:20:22.660 whether it's not admitting to falling off stage, whether it's 0:20:22.700 --> 0:20:24.920 not admitting that he did say that his digital duty 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:28.140 of care legislation is to deal with misinformation and disinformation. 0:20:28.180 --> 0:20:30.050 We have him on tape saying that. and then the 0:20:30.070 --> 0:20:30.540 very next. 0:20:30.410 --> 0:20:35.669 Day he denies it, and now this Grant debacle as well. 0:20:36.570 --> 0:20:38.990 Why can't the Prime Minister just admit a mistake when 0:20:39.030 --> 0:20:41.600 he makes it? And then, of course, the biggest mistake, 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:43.720 which is at the origins of the second term of 0:20:43.740 --> 0:20:46.340 the Anthony Albanese government, is the lies he told the 0:20:46.359 --> 0:20:49.680 Australian people. He told the Australian people... 50 times at 0:20:49.700 --> 0:20:52.159 the last election, he wouldn't raise taxes on a variety 0:20:52.180 --> 0:20:53.300 of things like negative. 0:20:53.040 --> 0:20:57.140 Gearing, on capital gains. And he did. He did. 0:20:58.180 --> 0:21:01.310 And that lack of trust now is, I think, eroding 0:21:01.670 --> 0:21:07.150 our social harmony. It's a lack of trust is contributing 0:21:07.230 --> 0:21:10.630 to a lack of business confidence in our future. And 0:21:11.030 --> 0:21:12.310 I think the government just has to be up front 0:21:12.330 --> 0:21:13.369 with us. And the best thing they could do is 0:21:13.390 --> 0:21:15.070 just have an election. get an election out of the 0:21:15.109 --> 0:21:18.230 way and actually take their policies to the people and 0:21:18.270 --> 0:21:18.930 be judged by that. 0:21:19.869 --> 0:21:24.340 I have been shocked, Matt, by politicians exploiting that terrible 0:21:24.390 --> 0:21:29.280 attack on independent MP Helen Haynes to push their own 0:21:29.320 --> 0:21:33.000 agenda when all we know so far is that she 0:21:33.040 --> 0:21:37.740 was rammed, allegedly, by a mentally disturbed man who frightened 0:21:37.780 --> 0:21:40.820 his neighbours with his erratic behaviour. He had ranted at 0:21:40.859 --> 0:21:44.359 his father, who was actually a friend of Haynes's, Last 0:21:44.440 --> 0:21:48.639 night I showed the Greens leader, David Shoebridge, somehow link 0:21:48.740 --> 0:21:50.660 this to the war in Gaza and I thought that 0:21:50.680 --> 0:21:55.390 was appalling. Now we've got this disgusting example from independent 0:21:55.430 --> 0:22:00.050 Senator Fatima Payman exploiting it to get more staff. Now, 0:22:00.090 --> 0:22:02.570 the grab is long, but I tell you, it is 0:22:02.650 --> 0:22:03.870 so damning. Have a look. 0:22:05.070 --> 0:22:07.250 Has the Prime Minister refused to make a decision on 0:22:07.290 --> 0:22:10.960 my request because unlike all the other defectors I defected 0:22:11.020 --> 0:22:12.219 from the Labor Party.... 0:22:13.650 --> 0:22:14.740 I will have to ask him. 0:22:15.119 --> 0:22:16.639 Am I being made an example of? 0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:19.240 I'll have to ask him that question. 0:22:19.420 --> 0:22:21.760 Oh, please do. And I'm glad this is on the record. 0:22:21.900 --> 0:22:26.350 Please look into the fact that my staff are burning out. 0:22:27.970 --> 0:22:32.870 They can't take this any longer. And is the Prime 0:22:32.890 --> 0:22:35.970 Minister waiting for something like what happened to Dr Helen 0:22:35.990 --> 0:22:39.660 Haynes to occur to my office, to me, for him 0:22:39.700 --> 0:22:41.540 to take our request seriously? 0:22:43.530 --> 0:22:47.970 Look, I personally think that's an outrageous suggestion, Senator Payman. 0:22:48.410 --> 0:22:51.149 Yeah, I can't believe that I'm saying that or making 0:22:51.170 --> 0:22:54.130 that suggestion because it's been two years. 0:22:55.970 --> 0:22:57.590 That was quite an outrageous statement. 0:22:57.750 --> 0:22:59.260 I would ask you to withdraw it. 0:22:59.350 --> 0:23:01.130 I appreciate your frustration. 0:23:01.490 --> 0:23:03.150 But I'm not sure that conflating those two issues. 0:23:03.170 --> 0:23:07.669 Chair, with all due respect, I haven't made any accusation. 0:23:07.869 --> 0:23:08.750 I think you just did. 0:23:09.109 --> 0:23:12.310 It wasn't... I've been waiting two years, Chair. 0:23:13.560 --> 0:23:16.620 And I am tired of looking in my staff's eyes 0:23:16.920 --> 0:23:18.830 and saying, you just have to deal with this because 0:23:18.869 --> 0:23:20.750 the Prime Minister is petty. 0:23:20.770 --> 0:23:24.010 And we thought particularly on a day like today. 0:23:24.830 --> 0:23:25.950 We should all be better than that. 0:23:26.190 --> 0:23:27.189 Yeah, absolutely. 0:23:27.910 --> 0:23:28.210 I agree. 0:23:28.230 --> 0:23:31.080 But you're not going to be. Matt, that is just 0:23:32.040 --> 0:23:35.720 such an astonishing and shocking insight. 0:23:37.420 --> 0:23:40.560 Look, Andrew, I mean, I have some sympathy for the 0:23:41.000 --> 0:23:44.740 crossbench senators who are being used as political playthings by 0:23:44.760 --> 0:23:47.199 the Prime Minister. If you look at the staffing allocations, 0:23:47.280 --> 0:23:49.940 it's no doubt that favourites are being played and that 0:23:50.000 --> 0:23:51.020 shouldn't happen. 0:23:51.140 --> 0:23:53.460 It's not the right thing to do. 0:23:54.030 --> 0:23:58.010 But I also agree with you, as we discussed last week, that, look, 0:23:58.090 --> 0:24:02.550 I find it distasteful to use personal and family tragedy. 0:24:02.850 --> 0:24:05.530 It's a horrific tragedy that's occurred. uh, to Dr. 0:24:05.570 --> 0:24:09.270 Haynes, uh, uh, to pursue, uh, uh, things you were 0:24:09.310 --> 0:24:12.150 doing anyway. And Fatima Payne has been, Panna Payne, sorry, 0:24:12.170 --> 0:24:15.119 has been on this crusade, uh, for more staff for 0:24:15.160 --> 0:24:19.510 some time, uh, I just think there's a time and 0:24:19.530 --> 0:24:23.320 a place. Despite, I do think the Prime Minister is 0:24:23.390 --> 0:24:26.240 weaponising the allocation of staff. I don't think he's doing 0:24:26.300 --> 0:24:30.820 it to in any way put people at risk. I'm 0:24:30.859 --> 0:24:34.520