WEBVTT - Bonus: Jase Confronts Darren Hayes About Their History

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Lauren, Good morning Melbourne. You're on the air with

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Lauren. Clint heer as well. We grew up with

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<v Speaker 1>Savage Gardens. This man then peeled off to do his

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<v Speaker 1>own solo career and we love that just as much

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<v Speaker 1>as well. And he is back with his own memoir

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<v Speaker 1>which is out now. Darren Hayes, good morning and Walking

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<v Speaker 1>and Nova.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 3>Darren Hayes.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've got history with Darren.

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<v Speaker 2>We were never going to talk about that, and also

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<v Speaker 2>I was very confused about my sexuality.

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<v Speaker 4>I've got a compliment. You're the best smelling guest we

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<v Speaker 4>have ever had in this studio.

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<v Speaker 2>That means a lot to me.

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<v Speaker 3>He looks mixologist I am.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you the truth as to why I smell

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<v Speaker 2>good though, right, it's part of a thing that I

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<v Speaker 2>think that anyone who is slightly famous should do, which

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<v Speaker 2>is leave an impression.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, unlovable is the memoir that's mouth I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to bring up. We've got history, so I've

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<v Speaker 1>interviewed you numerous times over the years. In fact, when

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<v Speaker 1>I was a young fellow, I was at the big

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<v Speaker 1>ceremony in Brisbane growing up on the main streets of Brisbane.

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<v Speaker 2>And the keys to the city.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the keys to the city Savage Garden were given.

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<v Speaker 2>Back in the day. Do you need to get into

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<v Speaker 2>a building?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't actually know what they do, but they do.

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<v Speaker 2>They well, I can get into most people's homes.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Or do you get to keep them for the rest

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<v Speaker 3>of your life?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's hilarious. Note it's ridiculous, isn't it. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>like a wooden, plastic thing that they present to.

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<v Speaker 1>You up in Brisbane.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. My book launch in Brisbane is at that same town.

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<v Speaker 2>Been there since I got the Keys to the city.

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<v Speaker 1>Will it be trauma?

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<v Speaker 2>No, it was an extraordinary thing. Yeah. So the memoir.

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<v Speaker 2>Was it cathartic? Yeah, of course it was. I had

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<v Speaker 2>never planned to write a book. It's I don't consider

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<v Speaker 2>myself a celebrity. It's not a celebrity memoir. It really

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<v Speaker 2>is a book about overcoming trauma. I grew up in

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<v Speaker 2>a family, which I wrote about in Savage Garden and

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<v Speaker 2>all throughout my career, but no one really put the

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<v Speaker 2>pieces together.

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<v Speaker 4>The song I think we don't you know, we hear

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<v Speaker 4>pop stars and these amazing musicians like yourself write these

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<v Speaker 4>incredible songs, but you kin'd of you sing along to it,

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<v Speaker 4>you don't really think about the trauma or the story

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<v Speaker 4>behind us.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure like two Beds and a Coffee Machine is a

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<v Speaker 2>song from Famous Look at Me So I've got tickets,

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<v Speaker 2>But it's a song from Affirmation about me, my mom,

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<v Speaker 2>my sister, and my brother being on their own, living

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<v Speaker 2>in hotel rooms with two beds and a coffee machine.

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<v Speaker 2>Running from my dad and people at the time, he

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<v Speaker 2>used to say, God, that song is so sad. Who

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<v Speaker 2>is it about? Back then, I was so ashamed I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't tell anyone who it was about.

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<v Speaker 4>Ah, what did you say? How did you answer that

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<v Speaker 4>question back in the day.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I avoided it out of respect for my mum,

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<v Speaker 2>who was so brave in letting me put that song

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<v Speaker 2>on the record. But this book came about because for

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<v Speaker 2>my last album, I think, you know, Look, I'm fifty

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<v Speaker 2>two now and and I had and have lived with

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<v Speaker 2>a severe depressive disorder and PTSD from my childhood all

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<v Speaker 2>my life, and I've had great treatment for it. But

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<v Speaker 2>I did an article in the UK which was a

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<v Speaker 2>childhood picture of me and I was ten sitting on

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<v Speaker 2>my bed, picture of Michael Jackson on the wall, and

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<v Speaker 2>I looked like a happy little kid. And I wrote

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<v Speaker 2>the story behind the picture, which was that nobody knew

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<v Speaker 2>the horrors of what was going on in my home.

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<v Speaker 2>And I had two book offers, one of them was

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<v Speaker 2>thankfully from Penguin Australia, and they said, would you write

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<v Speaker 2>that story? And I guess I was ready to.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I was about to say back then when

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<v Speaker 1>you were asked about it with the song, you probably

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<v Speaker 1>just won't ready as well.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so interesting because I know people who have not

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<v Speaker 4>the same stories. You know, one's got the same story,

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<v Speaker 4>but a similar story many people.

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<v Speaker 3>There, and kids carry.

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<v Speaker 4>So much weight protecting their parents from like you, you said,

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<v Speaker 4>the embarrassment of it and wearing this shield because you

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<v Speaker 4>didn't want your mum to feel embarrassed about what your

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<v Speaker 4>family was going through. It must have been such a burden.

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<v Speaker 4>And you're certainly not alone in that, right there, families

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<v Speaker 4>listening to this right now that no, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 4>that's me. I would hate for people to know what

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<v Speaker 4>my mum goes through. But being able to speak about

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<v Speaker 4>it so truthfully and honestly is so powerful.

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<v Speaker 2>I dedicate the book to my mom. I mostly wrote

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<v Speaker 2>this because I think the thing I care about most

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<v Speaker 2>in the world is women and violence against women. I

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<v Speaker 2>know in this country it's a pandemic. It's I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>there are so many women who are murdered by their

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<v Speaker 2>disgruntled partners. What saddens me about this book is that

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<v Speaker 2>back in the seventies when we were dealing with this,

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<v Speaker 2>there were no laws to protect my mom. She couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>leave my dad, he was an ex police officer. When

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<v Speaker 2>she went to the police, they all just year. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, there.

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<v Speaker 3>Are laws about it now, and people are still.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're still being murdered. Women are still being murdered.

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<v Speaker 2>It's that's the thing that it really really moves me. So, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>this book, a lot of it is about me, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's really about women because my mum was such a victim,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's about breaking cycles of abuse.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say Kurdos to you, because just by

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<v Speaker 1>opening up and telling this side of your story, you

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<v Speaker 1>would be helping so many people, more than you'll realize.

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<v Speaker 2>I really want to, And that's the whole gist of

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<v Speaker 2>the book. You know, like it was scary to lift

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<v Speaker 2>that veil and be so vulnerable, really joyful, really happy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're going to come back more with Darren Hayes

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side of this Serah on Nova. We

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<v Speaker 1>are hanging out with Darren Hayes this morning, truly, madly, deeply.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you do you still get into.

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<v Speaker 2>That I've never stopped singing the songs. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>that the general public ever knew that, because the breakup

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<v Speaker 2>of the band was just so messy.

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<v Speaker 1>I find as a true fan, I find it if

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<v Speaker 1>like you guys don't even talk now, do you you?

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<v Speaker 2>He was incredibly unkind to me and he didn't tell

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<v Speaker 2>the truth when the band broke up, And I go,

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<v Speaker 2>do you think there's any chance if he If no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just stop you there.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if he reached out, No, because.

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<v Speaker 2>He has reached out several times and offered to go

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<v Speaker 2>on the record and kind of apologize. What he did

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<v Speaker 2>to me was public. Look, no one wants to hear

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<v Speaker 2>about that stuff. Fans want to just hear songs.

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<v Speaker 1>I got something joyful to player. You love this? This

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<v Speaker 1>was doing the rounds online.

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<v Speaker 3>This guy, I love this.

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<v Speaker 1>This got me Okay, So this is for hurligans. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a whole full pub.

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<v Speaker 3>Choir pase English footy fans.

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<v Speaker 2>Here we go, hard men, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Love it, arms around each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what's so sweet about this is because

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<v Speaker 2>we've always been very protective of that song. But what

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<v Speaker 2>happened was I think it was the World Cup was

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<v Speaker 2>falling on Valentine's Day and this was this amazing marketing ad.

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<v Speaker 2>It might have been via Adidas or something, but I

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<v Speaker 2>just loved the message and it was like, Hey, love,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go to the footy. Please don't break

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<v Speaker 2>up with me, but I love you. And these are

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<v Speaker 2>real footy fans.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if you're protective of the music, you do not

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<v Speaker 1>want to see videos of Lauren having a crack at karaokeing.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone should sing. It's good for the soul totally. It

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter if you think you can't sing or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone should sing.

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<v Speaker 3>It just makes you feel what about you think you

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<v Speaker 3>can sing but you can't asking for.

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<v Speaker 2>Just I know quite well, just don't have a career

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<v Speaker 2>in it.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the radio.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't heard this, but I just found out you

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<v Speaker 1>released a cover of Last Christmas.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, we must put this on rotation. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>George Michael, you got to meet George Michael.

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<v Speaker 2>We became somewhat acquaintances him and George Michael. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>this is going to sound like a humble brand.

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<v Speaker 4>Go for it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's George Mike.

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<v Speaker 2>So I sang this song and then maybe six months later,

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<v Speaker 2>was invited by Pavarotti duet with him at Pavarotine. Friends.

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<v Speaker 3>Hang on, you did a with George Michael or Pavarotti.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're friends.

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<v Speaker 2>I was the friend's friend single and I had to

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<v Speaker 2>sing an Italian and I don't know what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the go to love me, I know that. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>the deal. We go to Moderna in Italy. Guess who's

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<v Speaker 2>on the bill Tracy Chapman, Annie Lennox, George Michael, and

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<v Speaker 2>Darryl Haynes from Soundgarden right, and I'm thinking total imposter syndrome.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatevervarotti friends couldn't have been nicer. Yet. The friends were

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<v Speaker 2>aua aqua with Pavarotti traditional and actually the lead singer

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<v Speaker 2>whose name, forgive me, I can't remember. She's a beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>person and hasn't great voice. But here's the deal. The

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<v Speaker 2>other guy was like, dumb on Bobby, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if he can send so Pavarotti.

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<v Speaker 3>Didn't say Barbie girl.

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<v Speaker 2>He gave me singing lessons.

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<v Speaker 3>Pavarotti.

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<v Speaker 2>He took the key and he raised it five semi

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<v Speaker 2>tones because in in Spanish, I'm sorry in Italian he

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<v Speaker 2>kept saying, no, no, you're returning, you're atturning your antenna. I

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<v Speaker 2>was just like whatever, But anyway, then George is on

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<v Speaker 2>the same show and he walks up to me and

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<v Speaker 2>he goes, you're saying summer mine, didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>You George did?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, George, Michael knew about it, Yes, are

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<v Speaker 2>you here for royalties? And I just went I sat

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<v Speaker 2>there frozen, and he went, I quite liked it a

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<v Speaker 2>little wink. And I just.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, Michael, because when he said it, were you like,

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<v Speaker 4>oh my god, is taking a savvy in my song?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? You know what. I once did a Prince cover

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<v Speaker 2>and you know how Prince reacted to that.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't like it.

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<v Speaker 2>He not that. Not only did he not like it,

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<v Speaker 2>he said, please burn all copies? Was a live recording

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<v Speaker 2>on a DVD.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we find it on YouTube?

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<v Speaker 2>No? You actually can? We must go it was it

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<v Speaker 2>was my song popular match mashed up with Baby on.

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<v Speaker 3>The Star, Please Burn? Or was that in a voice

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<v Speaker 3>note or an email or it was.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how are he communicated. I think it

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<v Speaker 2>might have been at that point through invisible ink because

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<v Speaker 2>at that point but yeah, we had filmed it in

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<v Speaker 2>like HD cameras. It was a d v D about

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<v Speaker 2>to come out, and I was so proud, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was like he had one hundred percent of the royalties

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<v Speaker 2>and he went burn it, burn old copies.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow. I could imagine him saying that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know him, he's a genius.

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<v Speaker 3>The artist formerly known as Prince.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a genius him terribly.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, so are you, sir. Darren Hayes new memoir, Unlovable

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<v Speaker 1>is available now.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very good, So lovable smell.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be emailing through the concoction later on and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Will reply with videos of Lauren hacking your song a karaokee.

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<v Speaker 3>Lauren wake Up Feeling Good, Number one hundred Lauren socials

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<v Speaker 4>MHM