1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: On scorn leads Ostrodia. 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 2: This is the Wider Panalty Show. 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Riata Paney Show. Coming 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 3: up tonight, Australia's most successful business person sounds the alarm 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 3: on it zero. Louise Robertson Nicata will join me to 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 3: discuss that shortly the Great Douglas Murray will wane on 7 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 3: a leading Melbourne hospital's discriminatory policy prioritizing Indigenous patients. Mi 8 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,959 Speaker 3: Horowitz will have the latest US news from the New 9 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 3: York Mirror. Race to President Trump's triumph in Tokyo and 10 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 3: Left is Losing It features an MSNBC anchor embarrassing himself 11 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 3: lying about CNN and. 12 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 4: Now CNN eagerly pays a Trump supporter to lie on 13 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 4: CNN every day and night for Donald Trump. 14 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 3: But first, Australia's most successful business person, Executive chairman of 15 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 3: Hancock Prospecting, Genna Reinhardt, has a dress university students. In 16 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 3: a wide ranging speech to the Echo University of New 17 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 3: South Wales Economics Forum, she highlighted the dangers of the 18 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 3: Albanese government's net zero agenda and urged students to think 19 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 3: critically and be wary of socialist indoctrination. Have a listen. 20 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 5: How can students get to the costs of net zero 21 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 5: and scientific truth? I'd suggest question and question, then apply 22 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 5: critical thinking. Don't be suathed by propagando. 23 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 3: Missus Reinhard also warned that net zero policies and red 24 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 3: tape were driving down investment and productivity. 25 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 5: Yes, a government caused national energy crisis is approaching, which 26 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 5: will impact all of you with higher costs and unreliable electricity. 27 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 5: Some spreading the renewable culp will point to hydrogen no 28 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 5: matter how many taxpayers dollars are being made available for 29 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 5: this trough. 30 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 3: And missus Reinhardt questioned whether the net zero policies embraced 31 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 3: by both Labor and the Coalition at this point are 32 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 3: actually supported by the Australian public, pointing out that a 33 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 3: recent poll showed most Australians were pro net zero, providing 34 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 3: it doesn't cost them more than sixty dollars a year. Well, 35 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 3: it's costing a lot more than that, a hell of 36 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 3: a lot more than that when you look at the 37 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 3: total cost. 38 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 5: We've entered this without being told how much net zero 39 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 5: will cost. Figures of a trillion dollars have been estimated 40 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 5: but we don't know the secret subsidies, and we sure 41 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 5: don't know because it seems how government may not have 42 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 5: thought about this, the big whopper costs to change defense, 43 00:02:54,840 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 5: defense industries, agriculture, critical minerals, mining and refining, etc. And 44 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 5: all services to meet net zero requirements, plus the costs 45 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 5: of losses of manufacturing, refining, smelting AI, none of which 46 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 5: can function on unreliable electricity. 47 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 3: Joining me now for more on this is skuy Andese 48 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 3: contributor Louise Roberts and Menzi's Research Center senior fellow Nicata Nick. 49 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 3: I'll start with you. It was a powerful speech and 50 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 3: delivered to an audience that has probably not been exposed 51 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 3: to the realities presented by Gina Ryan Hard. They probably 52 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 3: haven't heard common sense like that. 53 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: Possibly ever, Yeah, there's more wisdom in that speech than 54 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: most kids would have got all year. I respects in 55 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: the classroom. It'd be nice to see. Maybe we should 56 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: put GENA to work redesigning the national curriculum. But I 57 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: thought it was really some good home truths she brought home, 58 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: particularly the fact that it is younger generation will end 59 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: up paying for most of them, not old people like me. 60 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: I mean, so much of what's being invested in renewable 61 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: energy and unreliable renewable energy is going on the never never. 62 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: Those bills will have to be paid off over twenty 63 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: thirty forty years. The government's guaranteeing a energy a price 64 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: to these producers, whether or not they can sell it 65 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: for that if they don't, will have to bail them out. 66 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: So everything goes on the next generation of taxpayers and 67 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: they will have fewer opportunities, They will have lower incomes 68 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: and less prosperity because of this nonsense that's being driven 69 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: by Chris Bowen and his crowd. Did you say I 70 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: think reader, that they were willing people are willing to 71 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: pay up to fifty dollars a year for dealing with 72 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: climate change. 73 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 3: This is going to cost sixty dollars. See. Oh yes, 74 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 3: and this is something I think maybe I put. 75 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 6: It in sense. 76 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but anyway. 77 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, sixty dollars a year, that's affordable for most people. 78 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 3: But when it starts going above that, the support for 79 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 3: these sort of policies drops. Louise quite dramatically. Just on 80 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 3: this speech, missus Rhan had also praised Charlie Kirk, the 81 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:17,799 Speaker 3: late Charlie Kirk have a listened. 82 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 5: Charlie believed that if his reasoning was listening to, it 83 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 5: would win and he could make a difference. He addressed 84 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 5: two thousand or so campuses and got to know what 85 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 5: was going on there, probably better than any political party 86 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 5: does in USA or here, and presenting non socialist, patriotic, 87 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 5: profounily ideas as better. 88 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 3: I really do need a group like Turning Point with 89 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 3: a presence in universities across the country, Louise, because where 90 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 3: else are kids going to be exposed to this sort 91 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 3: of alternative view of the world and sense view of 92 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 3: the world. I would argue, when our university campuses are 93 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 3: just so corrupted by leftist ideology, they are. 94 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 7: As a tidal wave of left group thinks sort of 95 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 7: sweeping through all university campuses. And how wonderful would be 96 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 7: to see a Turning Point type scenario at the campuses 97 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 7: where young students feel they can actually air a common 98 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 7: sense view and not be shouted down. And I think 99 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 7: what missus Reinhards clearly illustrated there is that she speaks 100 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 7: with the students, not at them, And that's exactly what 101 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 7: Charlie Kirk did. They felt her they didn't feel their 102 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 7: being lectured by you know, generations that had no idea 103 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 7: about net zero and were you know, lumping them with 104 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 7: huge debts and huge problems later on in life. As 105 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 7: we've said here and as Nik has just said now, 106 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 7: so I would welcome that sort of debate on campus. 107 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 7: And that's what university life used to be like. And 108 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 7: certainly when I went to university some time ago, you 109 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,559 Speaker 7: could have those conversations and not feel that you were 110 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 7: going to be you know, discriminated against, been called a 111 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 7: right wing nutcha or something like that. So we definitely 112 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 7: need to get that proper, authentic debate, respectful debate back 113 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 7: into university campuses, and turning point is definitely one way 114 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 7: to do that. 115 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 3: Now. Billionaire Microsoft co founder Bill Gates has done a 116 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 3: massive u turn on climate change, after spending years and 117 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 3: years spooking scare campaigns warning that rising temperatures caused by 118 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 3: carbon emissions will make Earth uninhabitable, while he now says 119 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 3: climate change will not lead to humanity's device, and he 120 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 3: has urged a shift away from the doomsday outlook many 121 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 3: climate activists have adopted. Nick Gates has also pointed out 122 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 3: that cold climates and not hot ones pose a far 123 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 3: greater threat to humanity. Writing surprisingly, excessive cold is far deadlier, 124 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 3: killing nearly ten times more people every year than he does. Well, 125 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 3: it's not really surprising any one of us is actually 126 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 3: researched this topic. That that is a fairly obvious conclusion 127 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 3: that researchers have known for years. But somehow, to this 128 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 3: climate activist, it was a point he missed up until now. 129 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: There's more joy in heaven for every climate activist who's 130 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: saved than for you know. I mean, I want to 131 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: welcome him on board, wemy on board. I'm not going 132 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: to criticize in hypocrisy. It's great that he's come to 133 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: common sense understanding of this, because it's not been a 134 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: sudden conversion for Bill Gates this time. Last year, Microsoft 135 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: announced that it was going to reopen three Mile Island 136 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: nuclear plant in order to produce energy for its storage 137 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: and AI facilities. So I think, like a lot of 138 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: those people in that Silicon Valley world, they've been munked 139 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: by reality. They need energy, they need lots of it. 140 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: They need reliable, cheap electricity in order to power these 141 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 1: data centers. They're not going to get it from windmills 142 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: and solar panels, and they're coming round very quickly. If 143 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: only our own energy minister was half as smart as 144 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: Bill Gates. 145 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 3: Now let's go to Lydia Thorpe, who is still trying 146 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 3: to defend the statement she made at a pro Palestinian 147 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 3: protest just two weeks ago in Melbourne. 148 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 8: And we will turn. 149 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 9: Up every day and if I have to burn down 150 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 9: Parliament House to. 151 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 6: Make it a p. 152 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 5: I am not there to make him. 153 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 3: I really jumped the Crown people. Well, she's now arguing 154 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 3: that fire is just a metaphor, and the Senate voted 155 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 3: to censure her for those remarks. This is what she 156 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 3: had to say for herself. 157 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 9: And yet here we are treating a metaphor like a 158 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 9: national emergency. 159 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 3: What a joke. 160 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 9: The problem isn't my word words, it's the colonial systems 161 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 9: that still refuse to change. 162 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 3: Loise. There you go. It's the colonial systems at fault. 163 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 3: Or seems to be an all purpose excuse at the moment, 164 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 3: doesn't it. What did you make of her defense about 165 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 3: those comments that were really many people saw as a 166 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 3: genuine threat, though they didn't expect it to go and 167 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 3: strike a match. 168 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 7: No, they didn't expect her to strike a match, but 169 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 7: it's more sort of outrage is her brand. She does 170 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 7: not apologize for any of these infamatory comments. She's never 171 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 7: apologized for the attack she launched at King Charles when 172 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 7: he came to Australia recently. And I just feel by 173 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 7: saying it's a metaphor is just a very weak position. 174 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 7: And there's always a racism card that comes in. And 175 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 7: you look at what Lydia Thorpe does in public, can 176 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 7: you think what does she actually stand for as a politician, 177 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 7: What are her policies, what are the causes she's trying 178 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 7: to help. And I'm at a loss because all I 179 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 7: hear is this noise and this sort of claims of 180 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 7: you know, the hierarchy and the patriarch and the colonial 181 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 7: system and all these things get blamed, but she never 182 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 7: takes responsibility for the inflammatory remarks that she makes, including 183 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 7: saying she wanted to burn down Parliament. It's disgrace well, 184 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 7: it's a very bad example perhaps to young people who 185 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 7: think that maybe she represents what an Australian politician should be. 186 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 3: Well, I would argue Green Senator Marine Fruki is not 187 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 3: much better. She went on quite a rant in defense 188 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 3: of Lydia Thorpe during the essensial motion. She attacked what 189 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 3: she called you white people in here. 190 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 10: He's just a little bit of what she had to say, 191 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 10: that they would perhaps understand the meaning of burning down 192 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 10: the house, given that many of you white people in 193 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 10: here claim English as your first language, that you would 194 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 10: actually know, you would actually know what this means. 195 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 11: Or maybe or maybe some of you have heard the 196 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 11: Talking Heads song burning down the House in the eighties, 197 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 11: which is about which is about liberation, It is about freedom, 198 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 11: it is about breaking tree. 199 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 3: Nick. Well, there you go. You white people should be 200 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 3: aware of Talking Heads song lyrics. The argument there was 201 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 3: a little bit confusing. 202 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 1: Well, we white people are too polite to go around 203 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: making assumptions about people based on the color of their skin. Look, 204 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: it's very rich coming from Marin Feruki. She came over 205 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: here as a young child. Her father was accepted as 206 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 1: a refugee from Egypt. He was given a wonderful chance 207 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: to start at life and you here in Australia. She 208 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: had a chance to grow up in Australia and she 209 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: succeeded very well despite the colonial system, despite the fact 210 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: that she's not white, She's done very well in this 211 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: country because we are not the kind of country that 212 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: actually distinguishes between people on the basis of their skin. 213 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: We believe in the content of their character. So she's 214 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 1: a bit of a metaphor for something. Lydia Thorpe's a 215 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: metaphor for narcissism and the futility of rage. But you know, 216 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: this whole thing and trying to portray it as a 217 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: racistue is just so you can hear. You can hear 218 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: the groans from the Senate, couldn't you, As she said it, 219 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: it's just so overdone. Yes, I think going to get 220 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: her anywhere. 221 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 3: I think even the even the labor types had heard enough. 222 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,719 Speaker 3: But we will give marine the final word. Let's hear 223 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 3: what else she had to say about Senator Thorpe, who 224 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 3: she claims was just speaking truth to power. 225 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 11: Senata Hope spoke truth to power about the genocide and 226 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 11: the First Nations people. This is this is how you 227 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 11: treat people of color. So I'm not surprised at all 228 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 11: that you're ranting back at me. Senator Thorpe spoke truth 229 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 11: to power. 230 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 3: Yes, playing the victim yet again. Nick Kaita, Louise Roberts, 231 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 3: thank you so much of your time this evening. Joining 232 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 3: me now is the author of international best sellers, including 233 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 3: his latest on democracies and death cults. Douglas Murray will 234 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 3: get to the US and UK shortly, but let's start 235 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 3: in Australia where one of our leading hospitals here in Melbourne, 236 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 3: Saint Vincent's Hospitals, has introduced discriminatory practice, with Indigenous patients 237 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 3: fast tracked in the emergency department over other patients. Hospital 238 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 3: staff ordered to treat Indigenous patients within thirty minutes of arrival. 239 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 3: What do you make of that policy, Douglas, Where patients 240 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 3: are seen not based purely on medical need. 241 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 6: It's extraordinary, reta. I wish it wasn't. I wish it 242 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 6: was surprising, but I'm afraid it isn't. 243 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 9: Is it? 244 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 6: It's similar to practices that the so called DEI and 245 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 6: other movements have pushed for years, which is that somehow 246 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 6: to make up for past inequities or inequalities, you have 247 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 6: to introduce new inequities and inequalities, and if any group 248 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 6: is regarded as having been disadvantaged in the past, you 249 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 6: must disadvantage another group in the present. It's worth just 250 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 6: calling it what it is, which is just flat out 251 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 6: discrimination and bigotry. There's no other word for it. And 252 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 6: in no other scenario would anyone tolerate this. I hope 253 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 6: it's not tolerated in this case. But in no other 254 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 6: way around would this be allowed. Would such discrimination in 255 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 6: favor of one group of people and against another be 256 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 6: deemed to be somehow progressive. It's as bigoted a policy 257 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 6: as you can get, and I hope it's very swiftly 258 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 6: consigned to history, as it should be. 259 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 3: I fear here in Melbourne, in Victoria, this is going 260 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 3: to be a practice that's going to spread rather than 261 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 3: be consigned to history. We've got a state based race 262 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 3: treaty and voice through Parliament being put into place at 263 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 3: the moment. So we've got all sorts of problems, But 264 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 3: so do New York. 265 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 6: You know, how long how long do the people who 266 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 6: who are pushing his policy honestly think that the rest 267 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 6: of the population would put up with this? How long 268 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 6: do they expect the rest of the population to just 269 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 6: sit by in emergency wards and see other people prioritized 270 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 6: because of their ethnic background. Just how long do they 271 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 6: think the Australian public who aren't so called indigenous heritage. 272 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 6: How long do they think are going to put up 273 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 6: with this? Australian public just a complete walkover. 274 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 3: Well, yesterday in the newspaper there was a poll and 275 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 3: ninety seven percent of respondents said they were against this policy. 276 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 3: But I'm telling you, Douglas, I can't see it changing 277 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 3: anytime soon. New York residents. They're going to the polls 278 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 3: next week and they're probably going to have a new 279 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 3: man Zora and ma'm Danni is expected to prevail, and yeah, 280 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 3: let's hear from him. 281 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 12: I want to speak to the memory of my aunt 282 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 12: who started taking the subway after September eleventh because she 283 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 12: did not feel safe in her hit Jam. 284 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 3: Well, it wasn't so much his aunt as his dad's cousin. 285 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 3: But you know, semantics, Douglas, is he ready to lead? 286 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 6: No, in absolutely no way is he ready to lead. 287 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 6: And that was just another reminder of it. This is 288 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 6: such a self involved little narcissist with so little going 289 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 6: for him that he even decides to turn the memory 290 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 6: of nine to eleven and the three thousand Americans murdered 291 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 6: that day into a story about his aunt and the subway. 292 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 6: It's interesting, Like so many things, this smami candor that does, 293 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 6: he makes it about himself and it all turns out 294 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 6: to be untrue. Anyway, it seems to the extent that 295 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 6: he had any such aunt in question, she wasn't in 296 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 6: New York at the time, and in any case didn't 297 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 6: wear the headscarf. So it's an interesting one New Yorkers, 298 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 6: within less than a quarter of century of nine to eleven, 299 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 6: do we allow things like the slaughter of three thousand 300 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 6: Americans by Islamic fundamentalists to be turned instead into a 301 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 6: stormy a story of how this apparently fictitious or at 302 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 6: least partly fictitious figure of his aunt might have once felt, 303 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 6: possibly as if someone might could look at her badly, 304 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 6: nastily in the subway in the years after. This is 305 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 6: just outrageous as and I'm afraid everyone in Europe who 306 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 6: has seen candidates like Mamdani before knows exactly what's going on. 307 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 6: He's trying to pull all over people's eyes. He's trying 308 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 6: to smarm and smile his way into office. But this 309 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 6: statement alone, if we didn't have any other evidence of 310 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 6: his extremist views, would demonstrate the extremism of his views, 311 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,719 Speaker 6: because he's not able to focus on the things that 312 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 6: actually have affected Americans and instead wants to keep on creating, 313 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 6: as so many radicals like him do. Wants to create 314 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 6: fictitious narratives about America and Americans being bigoted. And you know, 315 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 6: Americans can't even be murdered by jihadists without people like 316 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 6: Mamdani turning it into a fear of a pseudo fictitious 317 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 6: aunt of theirs once feeling sad about possibly being looked 318 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 6: at meanly. I mean, this is just outrageous and the 319 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 6: humpteenth example and demonstration of why Mamdani should be nowhere 320 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 6: near the mayor all off in New York. 321 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 3: Well, we had the mayoral debate. Finally, what do we 322 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 3: learn there? Ma'n Downey presents himself as this progressive champion 323 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 3: of the poor. Is he at least that can the 324 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 3: poor expect to get more affordable housing in New York 325 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 3: City for example? 326 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 6: No, I mean, he has no real plan for any 327 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 6: of that. One of his few flagship policies is that 328 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 6: he says that if he becomes mayor, he wants to 329 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 6: make riding the bus in New York free. He was 330 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 6: asked in this debate by the moderator finally, he got 331 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 6: some sort of tricky questions. People actually drilled down behind 332 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 6: the smile and they said, so seven hundred million dollars 333 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 6: I think it's expected to cost this free bus ride thing. 334 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 6: How are you going to pay for it? He was asked, 335 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 6: and he replied by saying that if bus riding is 336 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 6: made free, it will lower violence against bus drivers. It's 337 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 6: not clear why that is. I mean, among other things, 338 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 6: if anyone could just jump on a bus in New York, 339 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 6: including all the homeless and the drug addicts and everything else, 340 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 6: without paying, I don't know why that makes life safer 341 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 6: for anyone. But he also said that it meant that 342 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 6: more people would ride the bus, and therefore fewer people 343 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 6: would get in their cars. I'm afraid that policy, or 344 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 6: at least versions of that, have been tried elsewhere. What 345 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 6: will happen is the buses will become more dangerous than 346 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 6: they are, and as a result, many more people will 347 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 6: use their cars and would have done. But he was 348 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 6: then pushed together, yes, but irrespective of potential violence against 349 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 6: bus drivers in New York, how are you going to 350 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 6: pay for it? And eventually he said through higher taxes. 351 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 6: So great, he's such an economic whiz kid. This guy, 352 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 6: he says he's going to give New Yorkers free bus rides, 353 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 6: but they're going to have to pay for it in 354 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 6: higher taxes. That's the kind of thing that socialists like 355 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 6: him always argue for. They take more and more money 356 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 6: away from the public. They make the public poorer and poorer, 357 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 6: but they dangle little ballbles like every now and then 358 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 6: you can get a free bus ride on a more 359 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 6: dangerous bus. It's brilliant, isn't it. 360 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 3: Yes, there's going to be scary to think what New 361 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 3: York's going to look like in two or three years 362 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 3: time under a hard left socialist Mandani administration. Let's go 363 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 3: to the UK now, and we've spoken about the flag 364 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 3: protests there operation raise the colors supposed to represent patriotism 365 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 3: and pride in Britain, but not everybody is on ball. 366 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 3: Let's see it from Labor MP Jivant Sante, who is 367 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 3: calling on Brits to take down their flags because it's 368 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 3: making some people feel uncomfortable. 369 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 13: And then I see flags paint the roundabouts and that 370 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 13: is just a bit weird, and you know, because you've 371 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 13: seen it online and I see it by a box. 372 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 13: But this does make people feel uneasy are They asked, 373 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 13: what message are these flags supposed to be. 374 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 3: Sunding Douglas, What does it say about a nation if 375 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 3: the national flag fills people with angst and makes them 376 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 3: feel uneasy, or you've got an MP there saying it's 377 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 3: a bit weird. 378 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's nothing weird about it at all. If he 379 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 6: traveled to any other national country'd probably fine that the 380 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 6: flag of that nation was flying in that country. It's 381 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 6: just a reminder of what a pushover people think that 382 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 6: Britain is these days. I mean, try it with any 383 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 6: other country a retam and maybe this guy can, maybe 384 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 6: he can go to any other country and say, you 385 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 6: know what, you flying your national flag makes me feel uncomfortable, 386 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 6: and just see how much care anyone gives to such 387 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 6: a statement. The fact is that somebody like him can 388 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 6: even say this is a reminder of the tolerance and 389 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 6: decency of the British people. Some people might say the 390 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 6: over tolerance and the overdecency of the British people, because 391 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 6: if the British people weren't tolerant and decent, then people 392 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 6: like this gentleman wouldn't be having the lives and careers 393 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 6: that they are having. And they wouldn't have the ability 394 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 6: to complain that the country they're in when the flag 395 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 6: is flown makes them feel uneasy. It's just again, there's 396 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 6: just unbelievable bigotry against the most tolerant nations in the world, 397 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:49,360 Speaker 6: be it Australia, be it Britain. It's always the same pattern. 398 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 6: It's the countries that are the most tolerant, the most 399 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 6: respecting of difference and much more that end up being 400 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 6: taken advantage of by buffoons like this. 401 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 3: I mean, can you just imagine going to a country 402 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 3: in the Middle East and wanting to reside there and 403 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 3: telling them to take down their flags. It's making you 404 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 3: feel a little bit uncomfortable. I mean, it is just 405 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 3: like you said, astonishing behavior. Now to an incredible story 406 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 3: from the Telegraph Today's Telegraph revealing that an activist accused 407 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 3: of targeting and our raft base with Palestine action has 408 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 3: been leading anti Israel protests from behind bars. Mohammed Umar 409 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 3: Khalid had been using a prison phone to lead the 410 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 3: protests in what has been described as yet another security 411 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 3: fast at Douglas. That just seems astonishing. 412 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 6: That it was astonishing in modern Britain. We've just had 413 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 6: the case this week of a man who came to 414 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 6: the UK illegally immediately started molesting schoolgirls, was detained and 415 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 6: then accidentally released, and he actually returned to the place 416 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 6: he'd been released from asking to be let back into 417 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,959 Speaker 6: the prison and to be deported, and he kept being 418 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 6: sent back by the authorities. He said no, no, no, chum, 419 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 6: on your way, go back out, have at it. And 420 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 6: that's just, you know, the last twenty four hours. So 421 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 6: every day in this calamitously badly run modern Britain, we 422 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 6: have cases like this, yes, you know, every now and 423 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 6: then they will catch somebody who's an illegal migrant and 424 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 6: they'll let them back out, or they'll let them back out, 425 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 6: swap them with somebody in France and they then come 426 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 6: back in again. Or in this case, you finally actually 427 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 6: do detain somebody who's involved in terrorist violence against an 428 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 6: RAF base, but it turns out that he can conceal 429 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 6: a phone in prison or whatever and guide the operations 430 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,719 Speaker 6: from outside. It's just another reminder that under the Labor 431 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 6: Party in Britain, it's just a fundamentally unseerious system, a 432 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 6: totally broken system, and just everybody in Britain has to 433 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,719 Speaker 6: hope that at some point quite soon this is turned around. 434 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 6: But I mean, you read stories like this Rita just 435 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 6: every day in the British press, and you know who's 436 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 6: in charge of this stuff, geniuses like David Lammy Douglas. 437 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 3: Before you go, the world celebrator the Gaza piece. Still 438 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 3: not too long ago, we noted many of those free 439 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 3: Palestinian types didn't seem to be celebrating. Let's hear from 440 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:46,199 Speaker 3: one of them, Irish actress and pro Palestinian activists Denise Goff. 441 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 8: Well, Cesmiri's liberation, Cesmi's free Palestine, and also it feels 442 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 8: that it was made without any Palestinian voices. But also 443 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 8: then it meets the terms of a true free Palestine 444 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 8: and an end to the occupation. 445 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 3: There you go, Douglas, we've been told. The actress also 446 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 3: accues Israel of gas lighting the world about what's happening 447 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 3: in Gaza. 448 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 6: Yes, she strikes me read to as not being the 449 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 6: brain of Britain or indeed of Ireland. I don't know 450 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 6: if you get that sense as well. You can see 451 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 6: her sort of struggling for the next spoort. It almost 452 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 6: is written across her forehead. As she does that. She 453 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 6: says that there don't seem to be any Palestinian voices 454 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 6: in the discussion. That's very strange, isn't it, because, of course, 455 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 6: among other things, a rather strong Palestinian voice the remaining 456 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 6: leadership of Hamaz were absolutely central to the negotiations. Palestinian 457 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 6: voices is presumably something she's just heard talked about at 458 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 6: some poetry jam in a theater somewhere London where she's 459 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 6: attended a solidarity evening at some point, and she probably 460 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 6: can't point to any of the places in question on 461 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 6: a map, but she's heard things like we must prioritize 462 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 6: Palestinian voices, and actually, when Palestinian voices make themselves are 463 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 6: very loudly heard, whether on October seventh with their Rapithon 464 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:32,479 Speaker 6: and murdererthon, or indeed, in the recent negotiations, it seems 465 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 6: that this dim witch just doesn't hear them. So perhaps 466 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 6: it's not a lack of Palestinian voices, it's a lack 467 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 6: of her being able to hear anything she doesn't want 468 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 6: to hear. But as I say, I think it's very 469 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 6: unlikely that this actress actually is over the complete issues 470 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 6: of phases one, two, and three of the cease fire negotiation. 471 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 6: I don't know, reader, I'd love you to ask her 472 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 6: on and and grill her on the real fine points 473 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 6: of the plan. I'd pay good money to watch that. 474 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 3: You know what. We will reach out to her people 475 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 3: and extend the invitations. She has been to Gaza, so 476 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 3: perhaps she has something to contribute, but I'm not going 477 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 3: to hold my breath. Douglas Murray, thank you so much 478 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 3: for your time this evening. 479 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 6: Great pleasure. As always, thank you. 480 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 3: Still to come Lefties Losing It plus the latest US 481 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 3: news from the New York mayoral race to present Trumps 482 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 3: to triumph in Tokyo. Army Horowitz will join you next. 483 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 3: Welcome back. It's time for Lefties Losing It and we 484 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 3: do talk about MSNBC a lot in this segment. It 485 00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 3: is the mental asylum masquerading as a news network. We 486 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 3: have an embarrassment of lefties losing it. Riches there, Rachel Madaw, 487 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 3: Nicole Wallace, Joe Scarbra, Jensaki, and this next guy, Lawrence O'Donnell, 488 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 3: who often gets overlooked because, let's be honest, he's quite boring, 489 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 3: but being no doubt, he's as demented as they come. 490 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 3: Remember this gold stop the hammering. 491 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 4: Stop the hammering out there? 492 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 14: Who's got a hammer? 493 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 6: Where is it? 494 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 4: Where's the hammer? 495 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 3: Where's the hammer? Where is the hammer? Well, let's look 496 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 3: at Lawrence's latest output. Here he goes on a wacky, 497 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 3: fact free rant. And just imagine what sort of a 498 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 3: fringe dwelling loom you have to be to think CNN. 499 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 3: CNN is too pro Trump. 500 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 4: CNN is already owned by a right wing Trump supporter 501 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 4: and has compromised itself. Accordingly, the firing started right away 502 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 4: in that new regime. That's why Jim Acosta is no 503 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 4: longer there, and others are no longer there, and everyone 504 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 4: who remains has become much more careful in anything they 505 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 4: might even think of saying about Donald Trump. And now 506 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 4: CNN eagerly pays a Trump supporter to lie on CNN 507 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 4: every day and night for Donald Trump. 508 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 3: Firstly, CNN is owned by Warner Brothers Discovery. It's a 509 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 3: publicly traded company. It is virulently anti Trump day and night. 510 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 3: And the so called liar that Lawrence claims is degrading 511 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 3: the station is often the lone conservative on panels of 512 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 3: four or five pundits or leaning left. Yes, this unseemly 513 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 3: meltdown was all about Scott Jennings and EMSONBC ANCHA has 514 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 3: lost it because CNN has a loan conservative on some 515 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 3: of its panels to provide some level of balance. 516 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 4: Paying Scott Jennings to lie about Donald Trump is money 517 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 4: very well spent. Scott Jennings, who used to be an 518 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 4: age of Senator Miss McConnell, was not always a rabid 519 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 4: lying Trump supporter. When he first started appearing on television, 520 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 4: he was capable of criticizing some of the more extreme 521 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 4: Trump positions. But Scott Jennings figured out where the money 522 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 4: is and how he could get his own podcast, and 523 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 4: decided to become the JD. Vans of CNN. And here 524 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 4: is the single goofiest thing ever said by anyone in 525 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 4: charge of CNN in that network's history. The Lost in 526 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 4: America englishman who heads CNN said, quote, Scott's like d'Artagnan. 527 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 4: He's got his sword out and he's got about four 528 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 4: Democrats against him, but he spiked them all off. That's 529 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 4: much more like it. I think he's a worthy opponent 530 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 4: as it were. 531 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 3: Well, that statement is one hundred percent accurate. Scott Jennings 532 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 3: does typically take on four rabid Democrats at once and 533 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 3: comes out on top, not because of eyes or playing 534 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 3: on emotions, but because his sticks to the cold, hard facts, 535 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 3: something foreign to MSNBC anchors like Lawrence Now to a 536 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 3: teeny tiny little agitator four foot six Quinn Hobble, who 537 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 3: the leftist media love to present some sort of lovable 538 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 3: protester who's been victimized by ICE agents, but the footage 539 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,240 Speaker 3: suggests otherwise. Let's look at what Quinn has to say 540 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 3: when speaking to the media and the behavior that actually 541 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 3: led to his arrest. 542 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 15: Only four foot six, and I can't see what harm 543 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 15: was I going to do to them? 544 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 3: Tell me, do you? 545 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 15: I decided that I was going to sit. So I 546 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 15: was sitting in the grass and my legs were just 547 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 15: barely in the driveway, and they came up, I think 548 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 15: there were six of them, and they grabbed me and 549 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:26,720 Speaker 15: they started to drag me across the driveway on the ground, 550 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 15: and they put their foot or something on my back, 551 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 15: and something some part of them on my neck. It 552 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 15: was scary being dragged across the ground when you can't 553 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 15: see what's happening around you. They called Portland a war zone. 554 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 15: The only people that's making a war zone is ice. 555 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 3: Let's go back to Sanna and polling expert Harry Enton 556 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,760 Speaker 3: had more bad news for their lifty losing at audience. 557 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 14: You might think, given that the Republicans are in charge 558 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 14: of both the House and the Senate, that a government 559 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 14: shutdown might actually hurt the Republican brand, but in fact 560 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 14: it hasn't. If anything, it's been helped a little bit. 561 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 14: Take a look here the shift in net popularity versus 562 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 14: pre shutdown among the g When we're looking at the 563 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,839 Speaker 14: Republican Party overall, that brand actually up two points. That's 564 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 14: within the margin vera, but clearly it hasn't dropped. Come 565 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 14: over this side of the screen, look at the net 566 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 14: approval ratings for Republicans and Congress. 567 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:32,720 Speaker 3: It's actually up. 568 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 14: Five points since pre shutdown. 569 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:35,280 Speaker 12: So what we're. 570 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 14: Seeing here is the Republican brand in Congress has actually 571 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 14: improved somewhat compared to where we were pre shutdown, despite 572 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 14: the fact the Republicans control. And that's the math that 573 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 14: John Thune and Mike Johnson are looking at. 574 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 3: Yes, Republicans and Independents are not blaming the Republicans for 575 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:56,760 Speaker 3: Schumer's shutdown. That's good news for the midterms for some it's. 576 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 14: Rallying the base for sure. Look at this, the net 577 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 14: approval rating up twelve points versus pre shutdown. But it's 578 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,879 Speaker 14: not just with the base, it's also with the middle 579 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,399 Speaker 14: of the electorate. Look at this among independents, it's up 580 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 14: eight points as well. So we've got a situation here 581 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 14: where Republicans with this shutdown are actually. 582 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 3: Rallying their base. 583 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 14: But it's also something that's not hurting them with the 584 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 14: folks in the middle of anything. It's helping them with 585 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 14: folks in the mill. And this is the type of 586 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 14: math that if you're Republicans you. 587 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 3: Like to see. Right, Yes, the math is mathy, but 588 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 3: what is the shutdown doing to the democrats chances at 589 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 3: the midterms? 590 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 6: So how do Democrats? 591 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 12: How are they positioned right now? 592 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 3: Yeah? 593 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,240 Speaker 14: So, I mean, look the general congressional ballot, which traditionally 594 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 14: Democrats have done really well on. And if you look 595 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,399 Speaker 14: at this point back when Trump was president the first 596 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 14: time around, Democrats are up eleven points. Look at where 597 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 14: it is now. Democrats are head but they're actually only 598 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 14: up three points. This is, in fact, the worst position 599 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 14: Democrats have been on in a generic ballot at this 600 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 14: point in midterm when there was Republican president in the 601 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 14: last twenty years, and this is no different from pre shutdown. 602 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 14: So Republicans aren't losing on this metric either. They become 603 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 14: more popular and they're actually in a pretty good position 604 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 14: for them historically when it comes to theire congressional ballot. 605 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,320 Speaker 14: This is a concerning number for Democrats. 606 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 12: Are you're saying this is. 607 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 14: A concerning number for Democrats because it's considerably worse than 608 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 14: they traditionally do in midterm elections when there's a Republican president. 609 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 3: Harry, oh, dear, let's bring in documentary filmmaker and commentate. 610 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 3: Army Horoid's army. The shutdown isn't hurting Trump, not with 611 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 3: the base, and just as importantly, it's not hurting him 612 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 3: with independence. 613 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 12: No, it's not. In fact, the Democratic brand is so 614 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 12: low that they're actually bucking history. Historically, the governor charge 615 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 12: is always blamed for the shutdown, but that's not the 616 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 12: case here. Yeah, this is I mean, what do you want? 617 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,720 Speaker 12: The Democrats have voted thirteen times to keep the government 618 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 12: shut down, and frankly, look you listen to Chuck Schumer 619 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 12: and what he's saying when he's decrying the shutdown. What 620 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 12: does he point to as a problem. He points to 621 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 12: Trump helping out Milay and Argentina. Really, that's a problem. 622 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 12: Mela Is reshaped the Argentinian economy into a free market 623 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 12: economy for the first time as a light to the 624 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 12: entire region that they will follow. That's a problem. He 625 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 12: talked about Trump dancing in Malaysia. Yeah, he was a 626 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 12: Malaysia cutting deals left and right. He was in Asia 627 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 12: brokering a peace deal between Thailand and Cambodia that is 628 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,359 Speaker 12: a one hundred years old that's an older conflict than 629 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,840 Speaker 12: Israel and the Palestinians. Yeah, that's what he's doing, and 630 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 12: that's what that's what the Democrats are decrying as a 631 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,360 Speaker 12: problem with his shutdown. And by the way, the coalition 632 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 12: in Democratic Party, which has been strong so far, is 633 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 12: now frayings a federal union that is now telling a Democrats, 634 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 12: you guys better stop this soon. This is being a 635 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 12: problem for us. And at the end of the next week, 636 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 12: forty one million people will stop receiving food stamp benefits, 637 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,839 Speaker 12: which is food stamp benefits. By the way, forty one 638 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 12: million people on food stamps. That in of itself is 639 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,240 Speaker 12: a massive problem. That's where we stand right now. Reta. 640 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yet that is a problem, and I think that's 641 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,920 Speaker 3: something that deserves a national discussion. I mean, there's something 642 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 3: very sick in the country when you've got that many 643 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:18,879 Speaker 3: people dependent on food stamps to feed their families. Now, 644 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,319 Speaker 3: let's go to your beloved New York where leftist rabbis 645 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 3: are campaigning for Zora and Mandani as they are. Hi, Rabbi, Rabbi, Hi, Rabbi, Hi, 646 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,880 Speaker 3: Rabbi Hi, We're among. 647 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 11: The thousands of Jewish New Yorkers who've been out door 648 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 11: knocking and phone banking to elect Zoran Mandani. 649 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 3: We're also rabbis. 650 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 2: We know zoranabile fight to make our city affordable and 651 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 2: safe for our families. 652 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 3: And for our neighbors, of our faiths and backgrounds. 653 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 2: As Jews, as rabbis, as New Yorkers, we believe that 654 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 2: all people deserve to thrive. Zoran agrees. 655 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 3: Ah Am Zauran A. Gray is what percentage of the 656 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:08,320 Speaker 3: Jewish community do you think it is backing Zoren? Ma'm donnie, 657 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:12,760 Speaker 3: he's made some radical comments. And these radical comments aren't 658 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 3: ancient history, They're very very recent. 659 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:21,880 Speaker 12: Indeed, Hi Rabbi, I mean, Rita, you're more of a 660 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 12: rabbi than they are. One of them literally said they 661 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:30,320 Speaker 12: don't believe in God. Okay, okay, what were bindical school 662 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 12: they go to? Exactly? That was so cringey. That was 663 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 12: for the first time I saw it, I thought it 664 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 12: was a Sient Live skit. But I knew Sara Live 665 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 12: wouldn't do an anti ma'm donnie video, so it couldn't 666 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 12: be that. It had to be real. Yeah. Look, I'm 667 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,399 Speaker 12: ashamed to say that if you look at the last 668 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:51,400 Speaker 12: three polls, uh, thirty three percent average, thirty three percent 669 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,799 Speaker 12: of Jews in New York will vote fromm Donnie. That 670 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 12: is completely and utterly shameful. Maybe even more shameful is 671 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 12: that when you're listening to this video and they and 672 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 12: they go through all the reasons why they're supporting mom Donnie, 673 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 12: they didn't mention a single Jewish issue. 674 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:07,839 Speaker 15: Right. 675 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 12: This is, by the way, that thirty three percent is 676 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 12: driven by mostly like you saw in that video, young women, 677 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 12: as I call the Jenta class. But I feel like, 678 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,720 Speaker 12: if you're gonna be Jewish so you're supporting mom Donnie, 679 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 12: maybe bring up some Jewish issues. I don't know, why 680 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 12: don't you bring up an issue that I'm Donnie literally 681 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,720 Speaker 12: said that the boot, while the boot of the NYPD 682 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:32,280 Speaker 12: is on your neck, it's laced by the IDF. Yeah, 683 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 12: when you go as a Jew, whenever I hear that, 684 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 12: I go, oh, ne verright here next is going to 685 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 12: be horrible and terrible. And that's a perfect example of 686 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:40,320 Speaker 12: what we're talking about. 687 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 3: And you say that as a proud Jewish man said, 688 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:51,840 Speaker 3: we may all want, we may all wander how someone 689 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,840 Speaker 3: likes Lauren can be so popular about to become mayor 690 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,360 Speaker 3: of New York City. But you hit the streets recently. 691 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 3: And I think his next clip explains. 692 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 4: Why jails are so racistm they're so racist. 693 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 12: Is it racist for a judge to say, hey, you 694 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 12: have a history of violent crime, yes, and to keep 695 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,319 Speaker 12: them because of that reason. Yes, your criminal history should 696 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 12: not play any role. What's well so No? 697 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 15: And I don't know if I know anyone who's never 698 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 15: committed crime. 699 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 12: Well, just get to commit crime. Does it make you 700 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 12: a criminal? 701 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 4: Right? 702 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 12: That the focus of the criminal system, the judital system 703 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,319 Speaker 12: should be less on safety and more on racial equity. 704 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 15: That the judicial system should be more on equity. 705 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 3: Yes, you know it's the affluent New Yorkers who are 706 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:39,000 Speaker 3: The biggest problem is that it's always the people in 707 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 3: the better parts of Manhattan who've got these wacky views 708 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 3: and they vote accordingly. 709 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,239 Speaker 12: Yeah, and by the way, this is the reason why 710 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 12: Mamdani said he wants to abolish jails. This is what 711 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 12: he says. These are his words, and of course that 712 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 12: comports what you heard on that video. Judicial system is 713 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,879 Speaker 12: racist and just system is out to get black people. Well, 714 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,840 Speaker 12: this is why when Mamdani ran against Cuomo for the 715 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,920 Speaker 12: Democratic nomination, he couldn't win the black and Hispanic vote, 716 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 12: because they understand the ramfications of those statements. I mean. 717 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 12: The other part of that video was after you watch 718 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 12: these crazy leftists talk about destroying and up and up 719 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 12: ending the judicial system, I went to Harlem. Actually the 720 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 12: best part is I asked this one person, I go, 721 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:26,800 Speaker 12: if I went to Harlem, wiull they agree with you? 722 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,759 Speaker 12: And he goes, of course they would. So then I 723 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,879 Speaker 12: went to Harlem. Not a not a I was there 724 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 12: for hours. Not a single person there said that it's racist. 725 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,760 Speaker 12: Not a single person there said to shoot abolished jails. 726 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,880 Speaker 12: They specifically say that these kind of policies which makes 727 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 12: our city, ours, our neighborhoods more unsafe. They are on 728 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 12: the tip of the sword when it comes to radicalization, 729 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,359 Speaker 12: of changing the judicial and policing in the city. They're 730 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 12: the ones who feel it more than I do in 731 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 12: the affluent Upper West Side of New York. That's why 732 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,880 Speaker 12: he can't win Black and a Spanic build He doesn't 733 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 12: get it. He's so far removed from reality. 734 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:10,240 Speaker 3: Well, Amy, he doesn't need it, because if the odds 735 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 3: are accurate, if the polls are accurate, he is going 736 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,560 Speaker 3: to romp it in. Don't go anywhere. We're going to 737 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,359 Speaker 3: go to a quick break. I'm going to come back 738 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:31,239 Speaker 3: and talk about Donald Trump's day in Tokyo. Welcome back now. 739 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 3: Donald Trump received quite the reception in Japan. He loves Japan, 740 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 3: and Japan seems to love him back. The President lavish 741 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:44,000 Speaker 3: praise on Japan's first female leader, Prime Minister Takaichi welcoming 742 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 3: her pledge to accelerate a military build up, and he 743 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:52,200 Speaker 3: also signed a trade and rare earth still in Tokyo Army. 744 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 3: He's also going to be nominated for the Nobel Peace 745 00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:01,440 Speaker 3: Prize by Japan. So it's been a love in today. 746 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,799 Speaker 12: Yeah, he sure loves that. When when when leaders say 747 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 12: they're going to nominate him for the Nibo Peace Prize. 748 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,279 Speaker 12: That's his jam. Uh. You know they were late for 749 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,319 Speaker 12: the press conference. It was so cute because they were 750 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,560 Speaker 12: both watching the World Series. Hey, hey show, Hey, let's 751 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:19,800 Speaker 12: go Dodgers. Look. Yeah, this is uh, this is great. 752 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,920 Speaker 12: This is again, this is this is Trump at his best. 753 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:23,440 Speaker 1: Uh. 754 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,760 Speaker 12: You know, the the new prime minister is an accolade 755 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 12: of of of the former prime minister who loved Donald Trump. 756 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 12: He had a great relationship with him in his first 757 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,759 Speaker 12: administration before he was tragically killed. And this is a continuation. 758 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,319 Speaker 12: I think of that relationship with that four year hiatus, 759 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 12: uh in between with Joe Biden, and I think what 760 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 12: you see is you see him in action. 761 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:45,359 Speaker 2: Right. 762 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 12: So, first of all, I think what hasn't been said 763 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 12: by a lot of people is that historically Japan has 764 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 12: really spent very little to nothing on defense, kind of 765 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,800 Speaker 12: an outgrowth of of of of their their warlike ways 766 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,960 Speaker 12: in World War Two. But they've been spending one percent 767 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,279 Speaker 12: their GDP on natural fans. Well, he's going to get 768 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,440 Speaker 12: them to move that number up to five percent. That 769 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 12: is game changing. That is natal level spending, and that 770 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,839 Speaker 12: is exactly what they need to do to counterbalance, counterbalance 771 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,799 Speaker 12: China's predations. And like you mentioned before, he has been 772 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 12: laser focused on the minimal rights deals around the world, 773 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,719 Speaker 12: including with Japan and other nations in Europe, to create 774 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:25,680 Speaker 12: this iron chokehold around China, the entire periphery on China. 775 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,240 Speaker 12: He is setting them up to make sure that China 776 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:32,440 Speaker 12: is not going to make its influence known in that 777 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 12: region and in the world. 778 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,919 Speaker 3: And he got this reception, and you mentioned the history there. 779 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,640 Speaker 3: The reception very different to what Joe Biden got not 780 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:47,560 Speaker 3: too long ago. It really didn't have anyone of note 781 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,719 Speaker 3: grating him when he touched down. It was a very 782 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:56,240 Speaker 3: different fan fair this time around. And importantly, the President 783 00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 3: also announced that Toyota is going to be spending ten 784 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:05,880 Speaker 3: bis billion investing in manufacturing plants in the US. I 785 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,359 Speaker 3: don't have long army, but that is a big win, 786 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:10,240 Speaker 3: no look. 787 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 12: No question about it. And like I said before repeatedly, 788 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,840 Speaker 12: like I'm not a tariff guy, but I using tariffs 789 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:20,000 Speaker 12: as a tactic versus a versus a strategy, I'm all 790 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 12: for it. If you're able to use tariffs to force 791 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:27,080 Speaker 12: people to invest in our country. Yeah, this is the 792 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:27,680 Speaker 12: result of that. 793 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,960 Speaker 3: Amy Horowitz thank you so much for your time, and 794 00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,360 Speaker 3: thank you for joining me tonight. I'll see you tomorrow 795 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,840 Speaker 3: at eleven up. Next, it's Newsnight,