Speaker 1: FIVEBA Football Post Match Callers sixteen eleven one a seven
Speaker 1: Hawthorne for the first bounce to the last twelve eighty
Speaker 1: a margin of twenty seven. It was so damn disappointing
Speaker 1: this after the game for Ace transport solutions we've got
Speaker 1: for West Crowdon's John, what are your people?
Speaker 2: How are you going?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 3: Not good?
Speaker 1: John?
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, I'd like to say a few things, but
Speaker 4: it won't be possible on air. But Tim Silvers came
Speaker 4: onto your program or in the media release when they
Speaker 4: appointed Maddie Knicks for another two years and said that
Speaker 4: they believe that he's the premiership coach. Well, if they
Speaker 4: believe that he's a premiership coach, I'm a giraffe walking
Speaker 4: around West Croydon. Let me tell you, I'm sick and
Speaker 4: tired of this club accepting the same excuses and accepting
Speaker 4: the same mistakes from year one in Maddie Knicks's tenure
Speaker 4: to year five. Nothing is going to change. If anyone
Speaker 4: in that club thinks that this is going to be
Speaker 4: ambership close coach, they're delusional. This club is no better
Speaker 4: off today today than it was five years ago. It's
Speaker 4: just not And we see the coach making the same errors,
Speaker 4: putting his faith in faith in the same players. They
Speaker 4: just don't deliver. And we talk about an AFL team
Speaker 4: that apparently supposed to have a skill set, Well, can
Speaker 4: you tell me what they've been practicing over the off season?
Speaker 5: This is this is just a joke.
Speaker 4: We have people with no courage in this in this
Speaker 4: organization to call it as it is and say, thank you, Maddie,
Speaker 4: not good enough, we're going But what do we do?
Speaker 4: For no reason at all, we decided to extend the
Speaker 4: tenure for another two years. Absolute joke, this club, absolute joke.
Speaker 1: Thanks John Berry passion. It's not all on Maddie.
Speaker 6: The performance invites scrutiny of his performance.
Speaker 1: Well, yes it does, but that was a group of
Speaker 1: boys out there that build all week. This was like
Speaker 1: a final last seasons on the line and dish that out.
Speaker 6: Yeah, But to John's point, this is not just on
Speaker 6: today that John's angry. It's a body of boy the
Speaker 6: first time this has a genuine expectation. Where are they
Speaker 6: will hard again?
Speaker 1: We're hard to defend. And we've got Campo sitting here
Speaker 1: and I don't want to put him in the burner
Speaker 1: a year. But for the last two weeks and certainly today,
Speaker 1: Why aren't they evening up the numbers in front of
Speaker 1: the ball. Why aren't they evening up the numbers in
Speaker 1: front of the ball. Why aren't they evening up the
Speaker 1: numbers in front of the ball. You knew what Stewart did,
Speaker 1: justly did it. If he didn't do it, it was well
Speaker 1: if it wasn't even someone else, they just slaughtered us
Speaker 1: from D fifty fifty.
Speaker 7: Well, and the answer that, well, and clearly we're not there.
Speaker 7: And I'm making somewhat of a I guess, an educated
Speaker 7: guess as because we can see from the vision that
Speaker 7: there's one up there so and you can see behind
Speaker 7: the goals and that sort of thing that there is
Speaker 7: an extra one there. But I just you know they.
Speaker 1: Does that person impact enough on the game?
Speaker 7: Correct? And then that is no, it will. But sometimes
Speaker 7: as a coach, right, sometimes you've got to lose the
Speaker 7: battle win the war, right, And that's a fly that
Speaker 7: I used as a stoppage coach. Okay, so you sit
Speaker 7: there and go, do we want to try and get
Speaker 7: field position off the back of the stoppage. Yes, we
Speaker 7: want to do, which is what they've done for majority
Speaker 7: of the year. Right now. But if you've got an
Speaker 7: influential defender who generates intercept possession and they go back
Speaker 7: and score off the back of it, which they will
Speaker 7: now have to make a decision. Do I need to
Speaker 7: make this a one on one game and put it
Speaker 7: on the midfield group? You guys don't. I can't give
Speaker 7: you any help. You need to get it done, and
Speaker 7: I think Adelaide's midfield can get it done without that.
Speaker 7: I absolutely think they can do it. Crouch, Dawson, lead Berry, Peddler,
Speaker 7: I reckon, there's enough grunts and everything to get it
Speaker 7: done in there, but they continue to get I guess
Speaker 7: beat by the same way with these intercept possession defenders.
Speaker 7: That causes grief, like in terms of when the ball
Speaker 7: gets lost and they lose it off half back and
Speaker 7: they get.
Speaker 1: Scored against it, We're just done. Hello tab loss, Hello
Speaker 1: you're on tab.
Speaker 8: To me?
Speaker 9: Okay, look, I'm not a Knicks fan, so let's get
Speaker 9: that out front. And I think that you keep playing
Speaker 9: the same team and yeah, you beat West Coast, big bill,
Speaker 9: you know, And why have they got people like why
Speaker 9: is we've got the worst ruckman in the whole league.
Speaker 9: And I don't care if he's friends with anybody there,
Speaker 9: but why not try something different in the ruck and
Speaker 9: then maybe you know, we won't be losing the middle
Speaker 9: and putting pressure on what you're talking about?
Speaker 10: Do you fifteen?
Speaker 9: Do everything? All that's out the window if you can't
Speaker 9: win the ball out of the middle. So a better ruckman,
Speaker 9: a better set up there, and it's an experiment. I mean,
Speaker 9: just touch the players around him there. I don't know,
Speaker 9: you can't keep going with you know, the knixt what's
Speaker 9: the name in the Ruckman O'Brien combination isn't complete and
Speaker 9: utter failure and every Crows person knows it. And that's
Speaker 9: all there is to it.
Speaker 1: Thanks tav Well. Clearly the next man in is straw
Speaker 1: and they don't well.
Speaker 7: I mean, I could argue, I could argue against that
Speaker 7: from that perspective. If he's had thirty five hitouts and
Speaker 7: fifteen hits to advantage. If you go to Reeves, he's
Speaker 7: had twenty hitouts and only six hits to advantage. So
Speaker 7: in terms of Riley O'Brien's rock work, if that's what
Speaker 7: we're critiquing him on, he was a better ruckman on
Speaker 7: the day. But when the ball hits the ground. What's
Speaker 7: happening at ground level? That's what the question you should
Speaker 7: be asking, not necessarily the rockwork because those numbers fifteen
Speaker 7: hitouts to advantage is a fair day. Actually, that's that's
Speaker 7: a great connection rate. So you can't sit there and
Speaker 7: go so out of thirty five he's connected one in
Speaker 7: every two almost. But so what's happening at ground level?
Speaker 7: That'd be the question for me in terms of and
Speaker 7: you know what that refers to the ground ball scrambled,
Speaker 7: That's what happens. They got beat up once the ball
Speaker 7: hit the ground.
Speaker 1: Hello, Jacket, Melrose Park, Hey, Steve, were yours?
Speaker 11: Yeah? Yeah, Look Stephen, I think with the Crowe I
Speaker 11: think there's a lot more issues than are matching units.
Speaker 11: Maybe Matthew nixt questions some players like brodis Smith shouldn't
Speaker 11: be playing I think Hrey should be playing half. But
Speaker 11: that I think you're going to look at it trows
Speaker 11: me to look at behind the scenes, Rashudo justin reive
Speaker 11: Camish over. Those three people have been in the club's
Speaker 11: a very long time now and there's there no success.
Speaker 11: Camis Sholi red. They've recruited pops in my opinions, like
Speaker 11: Ned mc Canrey Murphy. There's no ex talent at all
Speaker 11: in our list, And I think if we change coaches, yes, don't.
Speaker 11: I think Nick has made some decisions that have been poor,
Speaker 11: But honestly, I think he's just to chat to the
Speaker 11: best out of this list as possible. And honestly, I
Speaker 11: think if we changed coaches, not much is going to
Speaker 11: change you too. He changed the background things.
Speaker 1: Could agree with you more. Jack. I've been seeing that
Speaker 1: for probably a fair time and you know a lot
Speaker 1: of Crows. People get into me for being negative about it,
Speaker 1: but just have a look at the numbers, have a
Speaker 1: look at what they've attracted. Now. I keep getting because
Speaker 1: I get phone calls. Well, but we've got Dawson Rowe
Speaker 1: not bad, and we got Rankin' not banned. But it's
Speaker 1: the body of work. You can't just hang your hand
Speaker 1: on those two.
Speaker 6: It's the body of work we got both of.
Speaker 1: Traction and retention are the two big things. And I
Speaker 1: think they're as poor as any club with it. No
Speaker 1: one wants to deal with them, and they're aggressive in
Speaker 1: the market. Now, anyone that's anyone who's that rooster, we're
Speaker 1: going to get you one point three million. I'm embarrassed.
Speaker 1: I'm embarrassed that name is linked to my club. One
Speaker 1: link to the fifteen Unner eight ing clubs was linked
Speaker 1: to mine. Hello, Jai.
Speaker 10: Gooda boys, great call again, amazing passion, and that's why
Speaker 10: I listened to you.
Speaker 12: I just want to.
Speaker 10: Think about half time and think about our big, beautiful
Speaker 10: ruckman O'Brien. He had fixed tackles, which is you know,
Speaker 10: that's pretty good for a ruckman. But I looked at
Speaker 10: the statu sheet and there was fourteen Crows players who
Speaker 10: had as many tackles combined as O'Brien did. And I
Speaker 10: looked at that.
Speaker 13: That's m joy, that's an effort. Yeah, that is effort.
Speaker 10: And our midfield, I think, rocked up today just assuming
Speaker 10: we're going to rock out in the game, have a
Speaker 10: kick and we take the chocolate home and get back
Speaker 10: on the plane. But you can't do that in this competition.
Speaker 1: Well, JOI, that's a damning stat and it's true. And
Speaker 1: again it was build and I got seduced by it.
Speaker 1: I got seduced by it. I looked at Hawthorne all week.
Speaker 1: What can they do? What can't they do? What the
Speaker 1: Crows can do? And it is Brian Faith and people
Speaker 1: can ring and have a fair crack and rightly so
Speaker 1: that is that is just an absolutely damning stat for
Speaker 1: the whole week. The boys were builders. This is our final,
Speaker 1: our seasons on the line. We want to be in
Speaker 1: that group. You know. Now we're three games out, they're
Speaker 1: fourteenth on the ladder. They got beaten by a team
Speaker 1: who's below them on the ladder. They've now lost not
Speaker 1: a hand straight at the MCG. The stats are starting
Speaker 1: to become very damning, and a rock up like that,
Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything else other than to say
Speaker 1: they didn't turn up and I think that's embarrassing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how do you defend it?
Speaker 12: Though?
Speaker 1: They were embarrassing that first half? Yeah, well you fourteen
Speaker 1: players said there's tackles.
Speaker 7: Well, I just had I just I just had a
Speaker 7: quick look. There was seven players that had one tackle
Speaker 7: and there was two players that had zero. So there's
Speaker 7: nine out of year twenty two or in a final
Speaker 7: three that didn't have a tackle. But I mean, ultimately there, Yeah,
Speaker 7: the tackling is one thing, but for me, there's other
Speaker 7: issues in the tackling big.
Speaker 1: People at hands another one big picture in a year
Speaker 1: you're expecting to make finals after a long rebuilding period,
Speaker 1: the expectations you're catching teams, not having teams that were
Speaker 1: behind you catching you.
Speaker 6: And that's what it looked like happened today with Hawthorne.
Speaker 1: Good point.
Speaker 6: They look like they've gone past Adelaide well.
Speaker 1: Eleven wins last year, the expectation was more and again
Speaker 1: I can just imagine Nixy saying, whether it's in the
Speaker 1: press and now or Rankins heard us, Dawson wasn't fit,
Speaker 1: Walker was off, we don't have feelthorpe. Now, that's all
Speaker 1: pertinent points. They're probably your four best players, your most
Speaker 1: talented players, the ones with the most skill and poison class.
Speaker 1: Aren't they nothing out of those four because three were
Speaker 1: injured and Dawson probably shouldn't have played pretty hard, but
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be relying on that well injury. They still
Speaker 1: Crow's top end talent is just three players not named
Speaker 1: two of them.
Speaker 13: Hello Tom, So you guys.
Speaker 14: A couple of points. The first one is again recruiting,
Speaker 14: which was never you know, was never held to account
Speaker 14: during when we had publish and that look over the club.
Speaker 14: I mean, our best players that we've recruited are rookie
Speaker 14: picks and picks in the thirties and forties, not our
Speaker 14: first round picks who are meant to be your elite
Speaker 14: talent with elite skills. And to use your word Rowie
Speaker 14: class what Raschelley, You look at Roschelle, you look at
Speaker 14: Ned Mucknry, you look at Chase Jones. I mean the
Speaker 14: fact that Ben mu Kenry and Chase Jones are still
Speaker 14: on the team. If they weren't first round picks, they
Speaker 14: wouldn't be there. My other point is as well, none
Speaker 14: of the players are worried about being dropped because Nicky's
Speaker 14: got his favorites. It's about time and to save his
Speaker 14: own coaching career, it's about time he stops putting blind
Speaker 14: faith into players and goes, you know what, you're not
Speaker 14: pulling up. You're not doing what you're meant to be doing.
Speaker 14: So you know what, I'm going to bring in some
Speaker 14: young kids, give them a go, see what they've got,
Speaker 14: because you never know what you have unless you actually
Speaker 14: give them a go. You know, sometimes you don't have
Speaker 14: to always be smashing it in the sanfl to come
Speaker 14: in and do all right. And I think we need
Speaker 14: to give some of the other guys a go because
Speaker 14: we're going nowhere quick, and to be honest, the best
Speaker 14: thing that can happen is we lose every game from here,
Speaker 14: because then heads will roll.
Speaker 1: Oh told me, don't want to wish that. There's one
Speaker 1: bloke that I'd like to have a stern talking to,
Speaker 1: and that's for Shelley. And I think if you want
Speaker 1: to put one over the bow, he's won send him
Speaker 1: back till he comes back as a team man. I
Speaker 1: mean that just the basics of giving on the up,
Speaker 1: give the first give. Don't think he can win it
Speaker 1: off your own beat every time, every time he gets
Speaker 1: near the ball, he wants to do something miraculous with
Speaker 1: it or something brilliant with it. That's how it appears
Speaker 1: to me. And I don't know what he's like as
Speaker 1: a kid. I hear him on your show and he's
Speaker 1: lovely or hear positives coming out of him. But he
Speaker 1: doesn't play the ultimate team game. He's not a King
Speaker 1: O Taylor, that that ultimate team man that does the
Speaker 1: basics every damn single time. He has no defensive side
Speaker 1: of his game. He misses too many tackles he's intended.
Speaker 1: The contest isn't strong enough for me. Get out, come
Speaker 1: back when you're better.
Speaker 7: So in terms of that, though you agree.
Speaker 1: With those comments or of being too hard, I think
Speaker 1: tend to be a bit hardh.
Speaker 7: No, I think they're valid, you know, and that fluctuates.
Speaker 7: Some of those things fluctuate, right, And he's still a
Speaker 7: young player, so we've got to you know, but we're
Speaker 7: temper our. But we've seen there's a trend there once again.
Speaker 7: And I use that word a lot row with you
Speaker 7: when we talk about stuff. You've got to look for
Speaker 7: trends because sometimes you know, these things happen and.
Speaker 1: He come off the line poorly.
Speaker 7: He did, Yeah, he did. But the thing is now,
Speaker 7: so the question I'll ask you two is so Adelaide
Speaker 7: now potentially don't play finals. So do we get to
Speaker 7: see some of those guys now we happy to be
Speaker 7: You have to.
Speaker 1: Well, who are we talking? Is Downing ready?
Speaker 6: Dowling's had twenty five, it's through the third quarter of
Speaker 6: the game this afternoon, they're getting towed out by West.
Speaker 6: He's Adelaide. They're actually twenty eight points behind three quarter times,
Speaker 6: so he's twenty five and a half. But does he
Speaker 6: come in and play the r Ford Sean Berg death
Speaker 6: role or do you know.
Speaker 7: Midfield we got to play. He's to be willing to.
Speaker 1: Play him in the spot that they've been training it,
Speaker 1: and we don't do that at our club. For midfielder
Speaker 1: lights up in the sample for three weeks, like Shomberg,
Speaker 1: he goes in the deaf seat. Bitter lights up in
Speaker 1: the in the sampleing he goes into the deaf seat.
Speaker 1: You know, the deaf seat.
Speaker 6: Yep.
Speaker 1: To your question, care clubs that deathly.
Speaker 6: The position now can't be about trying to apply some
Speaker 6: window dressing to the season. Sneak a couple of late
Speaker 6: wins in our well was thirteenth or twelfth and other things.
Speaker 6: It might have been playing for eighth. This needs to
Speaker 6: be about investing time in the future.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 6: And if the people aren't there who are willing to
Speaker 6: make a commitment now to the future the football club,
Speaker 6: they shouldn't be in those positions.
Speaker 7: Or and or you not that this and or it's
Speaker 7: about list management decisions as well, because you cans now,
Speaker 7: so you go, well, instead of we'll planning on maybe
Speaker 7: having three picks, No, no, we've got to try and
Speaker 7: trade up and get four because we need some talent
Speaker 7: in this particular area. So that's that's the potent now
Speaker 7: they won't want to throw the season away or whatever.
Speaker 7: But it's an interesting one because you're round twelve. You've
Speaker 7: got Richmond next week and then the bye, so then
Speaker 7: you really are.
Speaker 1: City then the bye is it?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 1: No, I think it's Richmond on Sydney at home and
Speaker 1: then the bye.
Speaker 7: Correct. Yeah. So you sit there and go, well, they
Speaker 7: we think they should take care of Richmond. But and
Speaker 7: Sydney they're humming. So you're seeing there going now what
Speaker 7: happens you know at that point in time. So there's
Speaker 7: a decision to make on you know, there's some players
Speaker 7: that you sit there and go, well, you know, do
Speaker 7: we need to have a look at someone else?
Speaker 1: I'm there, I'm well and truly there. Hello Keith at Highbury.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I'd like to say happy days God, but that
Speaker 12: was absolute rubbish Hawthorne. Hawthorne players were running around like
Speaker 12: stray dogs without a catcher and adelaide I need to
Speaker 12: take a broom to the coaching staff and the recruiters.
Speaker 12: But I'd like just to say one thing. What's next
Speaker 12: is North Melbourne and West Coast are going to go
Speaker 12: to pass us now because a Hawthorne certainly has and since
Speaker 12: when has Adelaide given a coach more than five years
Speaker 12: without making a final. You Ro you might be able
Speaker 12: to know that or your campo, but I can't remember
Speaker 12: a coach that was allowed to say more than five
Speaker 12: years and not make the finals.
Speaker 7: Yeah he's the number was three, wasn't it.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was? But he's he signed for Well this
Speaker 1: year and another two after that. He's the next premiership coach.
Speaker 1: But you're building on the back of class in the midfield.
Speaker 1: I look at Hawthorne and I think, wow, they've got
Speaker 1: Blakes in a twenty one twenty warp will still only
Speaker 1: twenty three. Nukim is still only twenty two, Like oh god,
Speaker 1: like you think wow, so so and Campos always said it.
Speaker 1: You know, midfields win premierships. We're miles off of that.
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Speaker 1: But that's all right. Rankins Apparently the midfielder who we
Speaker 1: recruited at a million bucks for Ford, now he's outstanding.
Speaker 1: I hope he can be that. Rochelley was the same.
Speaker 1: Race Shelley ain't ever going to be a midfielder. He
Speaker 1: can only work one way Sligo I think is going
Speaker 1: to be good Schomberg. They don't look at Impeddal. They should,
Speaker 1: but they don't. I mean, I can put whole all
Speaker 1: the way through this like Swiss cheese.
Speaker 6: It's giving me the earth to give and just one
Speaker 6: last bit on that. I think The thing that frustrates
Speaker 6: fans as well is what appears to be the absence
Speaker 6: of a development plan for these guys. Is it to
Speaker 6: play half a season as a half forward flank and
Speaker 6: then work your way in What do you need to
Speaker 6: demonstrate playing in that role to get your chance? What
Speaker 6: are you need to demonstrate at the sandful level to
Speaker 6: get a chance to play in your preferred position. It
Speaker 6: just seems to be a rotation of the same positions
Speaker 6: with the same group of names, and it's difficult to
Speaker 6: draw any sort of consistent narrative around.
Speaker 1: It's a revolving door, that's right.
Speaker 6: Why people are getting certain opportunity to do the same thing.
Speaker 6: I don't know what's the plan for Luke Peddler. I
Speaker 6: don't understand he's gone back today. He's got about eight
Speaker 6: touches and three quarters of foot in the sample, so
Speaker 6: I presume he's playing as a Ford there is that now.
Speaker 6: The way he's seen it just seems like these guys
Speaker 6: are plug into the side sort of fingers in a
Speaker 6: dike to try and stop stop the whole thing from willing.
Speaker 1: I can't answer it because I don't know.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 1: Even scary than that, they don't know.
Speaker 15: Hello er yeah, Oi. Look, it's hard to judge Nixie.
Speaker 15: I had a lot of confidence he might be the
Speaker 15: man the first two or three years. But I think
Speaker 15: you've got to take into account that the Crows are
Speaker 15: the worst field kicking team in the AFL. We watch
Speaker 15: him every week under pressure. There's just so many of
Speaker 15: those lads kicking skills and not up to AFL standards.
Speaker 15: So that's not the coach's fault. That Tamish Ogilby and
Speaker 15: Justin Reeve they've brought those lads in the club knowing
Speaker 15: their kiding was not up to scratch. Now, Nixy, fifth year,
Speaker 15: we've seen bad signs. Now they were seeing no effort today.
Speaker 15: That was one of the worst efforts in the first
Speaker 15: half I've seen from the Crow's team for years. So now,
Speaker 15: but now it's coming home to roost, Nixy for five
Speaker 15: years without finals, you cannot accept mediocrity like this. We
Speaker 15: already have accepted so much mediocrity over the last seven years.
Speaker 15: Cats have vibe this book. He's tried his best, but
Speaker 15: he's going to look at his recruitment and his list
Speaker 15: management and let's we get those areas tidied up first.
Speaker 15: The next coach won't have him luck either.
Speaker 1: Yeah, passionate Cyril. There's a lot of that I can't defend. Hello,
Speaker 1: Douggy at blake View.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys. The reason why we had such a
Speaker 2: good year last year because Taylor Walker had a career
Speaker 2: best season. It's pretty simple. This year he's not having
Speaker 2: that and the Crows going crap. I've been ringing this
Speaker 2: show for last I reckon seven or eight years. That
Speaker 2: hasn't just been a recent thing. Our poor recruiting. The
Speaker 2: Crows have not gone to the draft and got one
Speaker 2: player that you say, oh gee, he's.
Speaker 8: Going to be a star.
Speaker 2: Sure enough, we've got Rank and the Dawson, but we've
Speaker 2: got them from other clubs. Let's go to the draft
Speaker 2: and actually draft someone. It's I'm a twenty three year
Speaker 2: gold member and I'm absolutely sick of this club.
Speaker 1: Yeah, passionate Dougie passionate Doug got a grin with.
Speaker 16: La Michael boys, great call, and thank you againting the
Speaker 16: five double A.
Speaker 13: But look and all.
Speaker 16: The callers are absolutely spot on here, all of them,
Speaker 16: I reckon. But I mean, you do wonder a few
Speaker 16: calls ago whether coaches do have their favorites. Campaign would
Speaker 16: probably be best to answer that. But honestly, what Pembo
Speaker 16: could have called this one today? Sitting on the couch
Speaker 16: with a crosser blanket in front of the heater at
Speaker 16: bowl full of diluted custard, which would draw a parallel.
Speaker 13: With the way they play.
Speaker 16: And we need a state raw commission on both teams
Speaker 16: in this date. So yeah, but thanks to five double.
Speaker 6: A surgery is right. He's out. So I don't think
Speaker 6: today would have made him feel any better.
Speaker 1: So is that the custod.
Speaker 6: He might have thrown the custod at the TV at
Speaker 6: some point in time. He doesn't get that wrapped up
Speaker 6: when you're lost, but he would have got he would
Speaker 6: have started Pembe would have started gardening. Had the fifteen
Speaker 6: minute mark of the first quarter and just going into
Speaker 6: a z end like state that none of the rest
Speaker 6: of us can't get to.
Speaker 1: So he's a gardener and a cook.
Speaker 6: Gardener and a cook, and.
Speaker 1: He's a better man than me. I'm a fishman and
Speaker 1: a hunter. Tallo, John, and I'm on the hunt right now.
Speaker 17: Hello Johnny Ooday, gentlemen.
Speaker 18: Look, it's not all doom and gloom. You know, I
Speaker 18: can see how this is going to play out. I'm
Speaker 18: confidence it's you know, it's one game. I think for me,
Speaker 18: what will happen is we'll take a big scalp later
Speaker 18: in the year when finals are not possible. Then we'll
Speaker 18: win the Showdown again. Then we can extend Matthew Nicks
Speaker 18: for ten years and then everyone will be optimistic about
Speaker 18: like next year, and then it will at least be
Speaker 18: happy to a round three or four next year till
Speaker 18: this until this happens again.
Speaker 1: John, you just defined me. I mean, I mean, and
Speaker 1: I'm embarrassed. You're right, John, I am embarrassed by that.
Speaker 7: That's me.
Speaker 1: That is me. It's called blind faith, and it just
Speaker 1: disappoints It's Rick my entire weekend eight double two three
Speaker 1: double a double. If you just tuned in from the
Speaker 1: first bounce to the last, Hawthorne who were below them
Speaker 1: on the ladder at the mcg beat them sixteen eleven
Speaker 1: one o seven. The numbers were just damning for the
Speaker 1: Crows twelve eight eighty March and twenty seven. It's got
Speaker 1: to Edwardstown.
Speaker 13: Michael, Good, afternoon, Fellow's air going yours?
Speaker 1: You there, we're yours mate, Fire up, yep.
Speaker 13: I'm not a pro supporter. I'm actually a Tiger supporter,
Speaker 13: so I feel your pain. But Rowie, I just want
Speaker 13: to make a point. I mean, there's no point you know,
Speaker 13: going on about coaches and all that sort of stuff,
Speaker 13: because all of that stuff will take care of itself,
Speaker 13: you know, win wins or losses. But you were talking about,
Speaker 13: you know, talking about Josh Race Shelley. I was what
Speaker 13: I've been watching him a bit lately. You know, I've
Speaker 13: followed Saligo as well off what his his game has
Speaker 13: had really picked up this year, which is good to see.
Speaker 13: But you know, when Rachelley came onto the scene, he
Speaker 13: you know, he burst onto the scene and did a
Speaker 13: few special things, et cetera. But ever since then he's
Speaker 13: really done nothing. And you know, a player should improve,
Speaker 13: but you know, really seen him go backwards. He doesn't
Speaker 13: look fit. I reckon, he's probably about five or six
Speaker 13: kegs over a good playing weight for him. He doesn't
Speaker 13: push up the ground, you know, when if the ball
Speaker 13: is struggling to get through, you know that that half
Speaker 13: back middle, you know, you see that, you see the
Speaker 13: forwards you know push up the ground. And it really
Speaker 13: it really stands out when when Texas not there and
Speaker 13: Rankin's not there, he just he's got no tank and
Speaker 13: he just doesn't seem to have a passion to go
Speaker 13: and get the ball. He's always seems to be waiting
Speaker 13: to be given the ball. And the year exact right
Speaker 13: in what you say in regards to him having, you know,
Speaker 13: wanting to do the special things and not play the
Speaker 13: team game. You know, you know it's as you know,
Speaker 13: it's a team game. Yeah, you do a special thing
Speaker 13: every now and then, you know, and that's on instinct,
Speaker 13: you know, it's an instinct thing that that's built into
Speaker 13: a player that's played the game for years and years.
Speaker 13: But he's really got to go back and go back
Speaker 13: to the basics and build himself a tank, get some
Speaker 13: gut running into him, and get a little bit of
Speaker 13: mongrel into his game, because like you say, you know,
Speaker 13: he's brushed off the tackles. He doesn't go and get
Speaker 13: the ball.
Speaker 4: He doesn't, you know, he's.
Speaker 13: There's no he as a forward. You know you should
Speaker 13: put the fear of God into your into your player.
Speaker 13: As a defender, you know they should be scared to
Speaker 13: go and stand on you because they don't want to
Speaker 13: get five goals kicked on it.
Speaker 1: But Michael, I'll say it like this, I run into
Speaker 1: Torrance with people that you know don't quite do the
Speaker 1: team thing in the basics. Well, I reckon if I
Speaker 1: was his coach and campo, this is what I did.
Speaker 1: There was a bloke called Dylan More who's the same agent,
Speaker 1: played as many games, who kicked five today. He gave
Speaker 1: the first gift. He got to the crumb. He didn't
Speaker 1: fly three deep, he didn't try to do anything fancy.
Speaker 1: He got the basics of his game right and he
Speaker 1: was an enormous small forward for them. Rachelley has all
Speaker 1: of those attributes. I don't know who's coaching him or
Speaker 1: who's instilling the sense of I'm gonna be careful to
Speaker 1: say because he's a great lead and he works for
Speaker 1: you at five double a will, But I was bitterly
Speaker 1: disappointed in his game today.
Speaker 5: Hello Michael, gooday, lads, Thanks taking my call, twenty five
Speaker 5: year gold member. After the Congry game, the word I use.
Speaker 13: I was tired.
Speaker 14: And after the game today all I.
Speaker 5: Can play is on board.
Speaker 13: It's it's what take what it is?
Speaker 5: Seven years of board. Nothing is actually progressing. I don't
Speaker 5: club anymore any stagnant. You've got a team that's not winning,
Speaker 5: You've got a fans inside that's not doing anything. You've
Speaker 5: got a home base that is just.
Speaker 19: How I square.
Speaker 12: I'm just bored.
Speaker 1: We need something you about we did last year, Michael.
Speaker 1: That's the teas. That's the teas. It's like going to
Speaker 1: a dance and they really pretty girl there. You just
Speaker 1: keep looking at her and you think I can get
Speaker 1: her and end up not you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You end up just still sitting on the bench and
Speaker 1: no girls come and ask you for a dance. Where
Speaker 1: you go and ask him for a dance and they say, no,
Speaker 1: ugly thing. How about you get your teeth fixed, in
Speaker 1: your hair done, and you know you ugly thing. We're
Speaker 1: just ugly at the moment.
Speaker 7: We're just getting left on the dance floor or a
Speaker 7: graders last year if you look, if you think of
Speaker 7: last year. So Dawson rankin Walker.
Speaker 1: You know, they were the three classes and best players
Speaker 1: in the team.
Speaker 7: But what happened last year is the guys underneath did
Speaker 7: they I guess the question for you guys did they overperform?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 7: And now they either haven't improved or they've dropped back
Speaker 7: below you know where the over performance has been. And
Speaker 7: so now the GAP's too big between the best players
Speaker 7: and then you lose. You know, Dawson had didn't have
Speaker 7: a great start to the year, but then his last
Speaker 7: month was great. He didn't have a great day today.
Speaker 7: You know, Walker was in my opinion, and this is
Speaker 7: my opinion, he was never going to have each season
Speaker 7: like he had last year, like that was what he
Speaker 7: did last year at his age was phenomenomenal, right, and
Speaker 7: so he was never He's another twelve months older, another
Speaker 7: preseason older. The service was they didn't focus on their
Speaker 7: ball movement. They focused purely on defense. So I think
Speaker 7: they probably got some of it wrong over preseason. Now
Speaker 7: that was a lot of it.
Speaker 6: Maybe you've described a scenario Campo, that's every Crows fans
Speaker 6: worse not there and no one will sleep if you
Speaker 6: put what you just said in simple language, which is
Speaker 6: to say that last year wasn't the continuation of a
Speaker 6: trend towards being a final side, but Riley rather the
Speaker 6: high watermark for an achievement for a list that isn't
Speaker 6: was never as good as coming eleventh twelfth.
Speaker 7: That's terrifying.
Speaker 1: After being West Coast twice and North twice. They built
Speaker 1: it up on lad if.
Speaker 6: That's the case after what five years of rebuilt.
Speaker 1: Well after the four losses this year, I said it
Speaker 1: was fool's gold. Well, can you put fool's gold in
Speaker 1: your teeth? Camp I'm not going to slay. Can I
Speaker 1: use scientific language? Hello, Johnny wild on campaign? Well, don't
Speaker 1: have you say.
Speaker 17: John Stephen Campo. I just want to go back in
Speaker 17: time a little bit. You was under Phil Walsh. He
Speaker 17: was a great coach, Phil watsh I had a lot
Speaker 17: of respect and you were there with him. He would
Speaker 17: not have set what some of these players are putting
Speaker 17: in for the club their grand will get.
Speaker 20: He wouldn't cop that. He wouldn't count your sake, get
Speaker 20: rid of them pretty much betrayed. Walsh wouldn't put up
Speaker 20: with some of these guys playing for the Adelai Woody,
Speaker 20: you know I want the honest.
Speaker 7: John I one hundred and ten percent agree with that.
Speaker 7: You know, yeah's one of those and to be honest,
Speaker 7: you know that was something that I drove as well.
Speaker 7: But unfortunately, whether the players have to buy into those
Speaker 7: things right, Ultimately, that's what the players have to do.
Speaker 7: The coaches put the game and then you have to
Speaker 7: either go and get the talent that can execute the
Speaker 7: game plan. Now, whiles she's timing was perfect. When he
Speaker 7: came in and they everyone bought in. It was an
Speaker 7: unbelievable preseason to think that the group that was there,
Speaker 7: what he was able to do to get the belief
Speaker 7: and get the game style. It was a breath of
Speaker 7: fresh air. But he was He was ruthless on some
Speaker 7: of those things, but still did it in a caring way.
Speaker 7: And you know, with this generation like it is different.
Speaker 7: But unfortunately, if you let it go, these are fester.
Speaker 1: They fest, and Rochelle's the boy product of that. He
Speaker 1: is I'm using him because he's superbly talented, should be
Speaker 1: better not getting that part of it right. He's the
Speaker 1: boy product of week week week, training week, coaching week. Everything.
Speaker 21: Well.
Speaker 6: I think I think every weather, whatever people's perspectives on
Speaker 6: Josh Shirley Guard, I think every Crows fan has been frustrated.
Speaker 6: They've been terming the selection Merry Go Round. We said,
Speaker 6: the same two names go out, the same two names
Speaker 6: come in.
Speaker 1: Hello, Daniel, are young boys? Who are yours?
Speaker 19: Just what are we going to do with the midfield?
Speaker 19: I mean, when are we going to actually put someone
Speaker 19: in there under the age of twenty five? I've been
Speaker 19: kicking some starts this year on a few of the boys.
Speaker 19: I'll get I'll read out some numbers for you. One
Speaker 19: hundred and seventy four center bouncers attended twenty three to one.
Speaker 19: Now in that twenty three to one nine or against
Speaker 19: West Coast and three against the Kangars. Any idea who
Speaker 19: that is? Boys?
Speaker 1: Who the player is?
Speaker 15: Yep?
Speaker 6: Well one, you mean clearances cele yep.
Speaker 19: No, No, that's look Rowie. So he goes way above
Speaker 19: that bait. One hundred and seventy four attendances, twenty three
Speaker 19: to one lead lead. How is he still in the midfield?
Speaker 19: His numbers percent of bounce clearances this year one two,
Speaker 19: one two two two.
Speaker 1: That's so that's first touch off ruckman's head.
Speaker 19: That first touch off the open hands. Now he's going
Speaker 19: at twelve to thirteen percent for the year. Other midfielders
Speaker 19: in the competition are up eighteen twenty. How is he
Speaker 19: still in there? And he's the first day in the
Speaker 19: first quarter today just waltzed around in time after time?
Speaker 6: What we just why we keep the second after? Didn't we?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 7: Center bounce one's an interesting one that once again having
Speaker 7: coached that roll not correct. So let's take the emotion
Speaker 7: out of those on Paddy dangerfield. When I coached Patty
Speaker 7: is the center bounce. He was either target or he
Speaker 7: was reader on the opposition. He couldn't play sweeper because
Speaker 7: he was like a dog chasing the tennis ball. And
Speaker 7: he used to break And you remember that visionary when
Speaker 7: I dragged him off the ground because Burgle and he
Speaker 7: let him goal side on two occasions, and I said
Speaker 7: to him, what are you doing? And he's a you know,
Speaker 7: what do you mean when I said, you're not to
Speaker 7: play sweeper because you break the system down right? So,
Speaker 7: and the center bounce is an art in itself, Like
Speaker 7: you have a separate meeting, you look at the dynamics
Speaker 7: of and you look at take Adelaide out of it.
Speaker 7: You look at how you know port Adelaide in terms
Speaker 7: of what they do. They've got speed and power and
Speaker 7: agility and those things around there. Now they got opened
Speaker 7: up in the last quarter. So it happens. But some
Speaker 7: of the times it's about the personnel and the role
Speaker 7: that you're playing. So those numbers and I haven't looked
Speaker 7: deep into it, but I would suggest that Rory LED's
Speaker 7: not the target inside a center bounce. It's more Dawsons,
Speaker 7: it's Matt Crouch, it's Celego, so he's playing more of
Speaker 7: a defensive sweeper type role from there. So it's not
Speaker 7: that I'm I'm trying to put some perspective on it.
Speaker 1: That's hello, tenure, thanks for waiting.
Speaker 21: Oh no, worry, t going good?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm bit upset.
Speaker 3: I just can't get how we're the only AFL side
Speaker 3: to not have a home base.
Speaker 1: Were we getting one tenure?
Speaker 17: Yeah?
Speaker 19: Yeah, maybe yeah?
Speaker 3: And before that, like what else happens? So unbelievable. It
Speaker 3: takes so long to get something.
Speaker 1: Well, it's not the club's fault, it's the stupid cancels
Speaker 1: And don't get me shut on that.
Speaker 3: Oh I know, right, So why not go out and
Speaker 3: purchase some land. It might not be in an ideal spot,
Speaker 3: but build it and they'll come because it's got to
Speaker 3: be better than waiting forever, waiting for thirty trees to
Speaker 3: get knocked down or something.
Speaker 1: Ten we've negotiated for three and a half years now
Speaker 1: the plans are done. They're too far gone. I think
Speaker 1: they're throwing good money after bad. But when you've spent
Speaker 1: that much time on something and you've got a bulldoze
Speaker 1: through and we had John Oser and he said pretty
Speaker 1: much that this is going to happen. Be a little
Speaker 1: bit patient because I reckon by Septembumber one, the bulldozers
Speaker 1: and the survey peaks will go in tenure.
Speaker 7: Is it more based around It's an interesting call because
Speaker 7: you sit there like Hawthorne at home. Well, I want
Speaker 7: to hoold Hawthorne. They're building out in Dingley, which is
Speaker 7: like an hour and a half out of Melbourne, right,
Speaker 7: So I guess the question is is and having been
Speaker 7: inside the Four Walls when this all started, like I remember,
Speaker 7: they want to be in Adelaide where the Adelaide crows,
Speaker 7: and we want to be in a sanctum of Adelaide.
Speaker 7: That's part of the issue. Now. The problem is is
Speaker 7: these days it's not that easy because of the urban
Speaker 7: sprawl and you know, development plans and cancels and all
Speaker 7: those sort of things. So and to me, yes, Adelaide
Speaker 7: being is important, But ultimately isn't it about the facility,
Speaker 7: Like they're not going to play there. Well, they're not
Speaker 7: playing there. No, it's about the facility and what you
Speaker 7: know that can bring to perhaps another community. So they
Speaker 7: got wetted on being in Adelaide.
Speaker 1: But I don't know where there's. What Teavy wants is
Speaker 1: a club. I want a clumb I want to see
Speaker 1: the premierships there. I want to go there and have
Speaker 1: a beer and a snitty, you know. I want to
Speaker 1: yell over the fence. Come on, Rochelle there, Thanks, Janya, Hello, mas.
Speaker 21: Hey, guys, how are you going?
Speaker 1: Rule yours mans?
Speaker 21: I've heard that before or.
Speaker 8: Just going on?
Speaker 21: First of all, Daniels called back lead one hundred percent agree,
Speaker 21: even though he's getting those twelve percent or whatever he said,
Speaker 21: the possessions that he gets a worthless state. They don't
Speaker 21: hit Tiger. They're very up in the air. They don't
Speaker 21: give the fours the chance. So I agree with Daniel
Speaker 21: and that one. I think Rochelley has been coached out
Speaker 21: of his plays. He has no confidence. He he doesn't
Speaker 21: think instinctively. It's always trying to do something that's not there,
Speaker 21: Like he always tries to go for a goal when
Speaker 21: you know it doesn't work. It's there, there'll be a
Speaker 21: player open. It feels like a coaching thing where they've
Speaker 21: tried to make him a player that he isn't. He's
Speaker 21: had a lot of expactor a lot of now I
Speaker 21: think you need to go back to that, and I
Speaker 21: don't know how you sort of coach that insol player,
Speaker 21: That's my opinion. My other sort of question to you
Speaker 21: guys is what do do you guys see O'Brien as
Speaker 21: a premiership ruckman because I don't, and I don't know
Speaker 21: why we continue to move on with him and try
Speaker 21: to make him better or do things he basically gave
Speaker 21: off on players more of the ball than our own players.
Speaker 21: And I also think Smithers needs to have a bit
Speaker 21: of a spell. I think his possessions efficiency is going.
Speaker 19: Down the drain.
Speaker 21: He can kick sixteen met ball but kicks the straights
Speaker 21: the opposition and I don't know how many times he's
Speaker 21: done over the last probably this season and last season.
Speaker 21: Just want to get your thoughts on O'Brien and Smith.
Speaker 7: Well, I could take that, Matt. If you look at O'Brien,
Speaker 7: I mean, they don't grow on tree. So the Max
Speaker 7: Corn's the Brodie Grundies that if you look back over
Speaker 7: the premiership, you know, great teams. Yeah they're important, absolutely,
Speaker 7: but they don't grow on trees, those guys. But for me,
Speaker 7: that's one part of a midfield role. For me, it's
Speaker 7: the midfield at ground level, you know, that gets it done.
Speaker 7: So I think we're probably being a little bit hard
Speaker 7: on Riley in terms of what he does. The Smith one,
Speaker 7: I mean, if you take today, he kicked it at
Speaker 7: eighty percent Brodie Smith, so he missed that Howler in
Speaker 7: the first quarter. So you know, like sometimes we can
Speaker 7: get skewed by we see one thing and then all
Speaker 7: of a sudden that's the and a bit about you
Speaker 7: know what happens. But you know Smith, he's not getting
Speaker 7: any younger, right so and he's been a wonderful servant
Speaker 7: of the footy club, like he's not going to be
Speaker 7: He's all Australian best. So I guess from the frustration
Speaker 7: point of view is the supporters are saying is there
Speaker 7: someone better or is there another opportunity for someone perhaps
Speaker 7: to come in for Brody, and ultimately the question. We've
Speaker 7: seen Nan Curvis, we've seen Murray come in, we've seen
Speaker 7: Michael and he come in. So we've seen some you know,
Speaker 7: some up and shoots in terms of some of those guys.
Speaker 7: But I guess after year five everyone's getting frustrated around.
Speaker 7: We want to see, well, we want to play finals
Speaker 7: ultimately is what it is.
Speaker 6: After the bounce. Thanks to as transport solutions, we get
Speaker 6: to the awards in just the way. Well, I take
Speaker 6: one more call Vassi, good afternoon.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, good boys. Look, I just think we just
Speaker 8: don't have the cattle. Who is our a grader. I've
Speaker 8: watched the last two games of this round. You had
Speaker 8: Crips that he said, come on, I'm going to win
Speaker 8: for us, and you had Bonds said come on, I'm
Speaker 8: going to win for it, and the last of these
Speaker 8: their games were absolutely outstanding. We've got Dawsman, but he's
Speaker 8: in and out. He has this not consistent enough, and
Speaker 8: today he's captain.
Speaker 2: Walker goes off.
Speaker 8: He's got to do so. He had a very poor game. Okay,
Speaker 8: it's one game, but that we should have on paper,
Speaker 8: we should have beaten Hawthorne. And it would either We've
Speaker 8: got to look at our. It's not coaching a coaching
Speaker 8: these kicks, these thirty miss meter kicks that didn't get
Speaker 8: the target. If everyone you go totally over that game
Speaker 8: and already watching it. Finally, how many kicks just straight
Speaker 8: the opposition? Now, that's not a coach. That is poor
Speaker 8: ball skills, any talent, our talent and how to you know? Like,
Speaker 8: so we last year we probably have to really reflect
Speaker 8: and say we overachieve and this year were people have
Speaker 8: been hyping us up and we're not half as good
Speaker 8: as what they're saying.
Speaker 1: Well, actually they've been hyping themselves up. I think all
Speaker 1: pre season we expect to make finals, expect to make folds.
Speaker 1: I did two on the season they did last time.
Speaker 1: He asked about a graders. This an a grader. His
Speaker 1: name is ranking. He didn't play. So there's one I
Speaker 1: think philthought will be. He's developing, he's a big two.
Speaker 1: He will be very good. He's not played. Walker was
Speaker 1: off in the second quarter of the first with his
Speaker 1: back half time. They pulled the trigger. He's a third
Speaker 1: a grade out in doors and clearly had a fitness test,
Speaker 1: hasn't been fit. We've heard it all week. So there's
Speaker 1: your four best most talented poise A grade, I don't
Speaker 1: know classy plants.
Speaker 6: Now, then who's next, Let's go whose Hawthorne's a greater
Speaker 6: that most Crows fans did nominate.
Speaker 1: That that would say A grade.
Speaker 6: It's not basketball, you need more. It's not talking about
Speaker 6: one person.
Speaker 7: Well it's I mean even last year the A gras
Speaker 7: A graders. But it's still system as well, like you
Speaker 7: can have.
Speaker 6: It's a sum of talent, isn't it It is?
Speaker 1: I mean I predict against Port, was't it but for
Speaker 1: some of the talent.
Speaker 7: But if you have if you take Sydney for example,
Speaker 7: and you go across and I guess this is where
Speaker 7: the discussion is. If you go across Sydney's three and
Speaker 7: they're the they're the number one, so you can use
Speaker 7: them as a bit of a benchmark in terms of
Speaker 7: you know, if you look at their list profile once again,
Speaker 7: if you go back Grundy Golden, Heni Warner like that,
Speaker 7: that's not a bad that's arguably your all Australian midfield.
Speaker 7: You could easily make pole an argument to go here boys,
Speaker 7: you're the first four in pick in there, which it
Speaker 7: won't happen, but ultimately that's what happens. But then you've
Speaker 7: got Nick Blakey off half back. He's class. He's got
Speaker 7: calorm Mills that hasn't even played yet.
Speaker 3: Yea.
Speaker 7: You know coming back in you've got Maceneronnie and these
Speaker 7: guys on the wing, you've got Campbell. So the depth
Speaker 7: of players coming through now do they get I guess
Speaker 7: go to the level higher because those guys that we
Speaker 7: mentioned do they elevate, which I think is what happened
Speaker 7: last year. They elevated last year and unfortunately, for numerous reasons,
Speaker 7: those guys haven't. But you know, you've got a I
Speaker 7: don't think every team, every club in the AFL has
Speaker 7: depth that we think we do. You know, your top
Speaker 7: fifteen is probably around the mark and every you know,
Speaker 7: even Collingwood last night. You have a look at their
Speaker 7: outs last last night that it's a fair chunk of
Speaker 7: it's going on there, right, But there's still and they've
Speaker 7: given guys opportunities. You could argue Collingwood they've got the
Speaker 7: most inexperienced forward line going around.
Speaker 1: And god they've got no one up front. They lost,
Speaker 1: but didn't they a bulldogs?
Speaker 7: They still lost and even the Bulldogs. They didn't have Norton,
Speaker 7: they didn't have Richards last night.
Speaker 1: You know. So we've got shape, we've got good shape.
Speaker 1: Then he's out there in his boat. God, we have
Speaker 1: good shape playing.
Speaker 7: Is he playing or was he over there? Did he
Speaker 7: fly over?
Speaker 1: He didn't play. He's over there.
Speaker 7: So he's running at the MCJ now he was emergency.
Speaker 7: This is five double a football