WEBVTT - Trick or Cheat?

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<v Speaker 1>I've definitely dated my fair share of douchebags. My time.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get tingling my balls.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I'm spiraling. Oh my God, tell us.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything flame emojis left, right, and center.

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<v Speaker 1>Matt loves a bit of God and.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to affect you back. I'm really need you

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<v Speaker 2>with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I'm jealous. I'm the most jealous person ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Relationships like a fart. If you have to force it,

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<v Speaker 2>it's probably shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Hisity dot com for you. I'll be a bloody single

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<v Speaker 1>and alone with ten cats for the rest of my life.

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<v Speaker 3>Lie, Lie, Lie.

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<v Speaker 1>On today's episode of Where's Your Head At, we are

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<v Speaker 1>diving headfirst into all things cheating.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys will find out which one of us is

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<v Speaker 2>a cheater, and we tell a heartbreaking story of who's

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<v Speaker 2>been cheated on.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay tuned, it's a goody. Where's Your Head At is

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast that talks all things relationships, breakups, reality TV,

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<v Speaker 1>trending shows, and everything in between. This is your new

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<v Speaker 1>go to destination, laughs, gossip, intimate details, advice.

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<v Speaker 2>And much more. Hello Matt, Hello Anna, how are you today?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing good? How are you going?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna lie, I'm pretty rattled. Your rattled, Hi,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be honest with you. I had a dream last night.

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<v Speaker 3>That oh god, I'm worried.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it was featuring you.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, okay, tell us more.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it wasn't like that sort of dream.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, just in case anyone was wondering, I

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<v Speaker 1>was not expecting this.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So I'll tell you what happened. We actually

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<v Speaker 2>went on a date night. So we went to I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was it looks like in my dream saying

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<v Speaker 2>killed a Sea Bass. You know that restaurant like on

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<v Speaker 2>the beach y. You were dressed in like a like

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<v Speaker 2>a lovely black cocktail dress. I had a nice tight

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<v Speaker 2>shit and I remember like we met there and then

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<v Speaker 2>like we walked in and we had dinner.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was a romantic dinner.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a romantic dinner.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And I woke up and I was like sweating, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, you woke up sweating.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, well that was weird.

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<v Speaker 1>But okay, million dollar question. Did we kiss in.

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<v Speaker 2>The dream after the date?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, end of the date. Well, I'm a gentleman, so

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<v Speaker 2>I never kiss. And tell now, why are you having

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<v Speaker 2>dreams about Well, I've thought about it on the drive here,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, you know what, it's probably because

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<v Speaker 2>you called me at eleven thirty at night and we're

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<v Speaker 2>just telling me all your guy problems. And then I

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<v Speaker 2>was like falling asleep, and I fell straight asleep, and

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<v Speaker 2>it must seem fresh on my mind. I'm that guy problem.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing is is that I actually don't have guy

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<v Speaker 1>problems at the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it wasn't problem. I throw problems around your

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<v Speaker 2>guy stories. What's happening in your love life?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess giving you the fall on line.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're giving me the update. Well do you want

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<v Speaker 2>to give everyone else the update?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? So I'm seeing a guy at the moment, it's

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<v Speaker 1>going really well, like almost to the point where it's

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<v Speaker 1>going too well. We just get along like a house

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<v Speaker 1>on fire. We have good chat.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything's are easy.

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<v Speaker 1>Really good sexual chem ISTU. I think I'm simping over

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<v Speaker 1>him a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>You're simping, are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Do you want to explain what simping means for

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<v Speaker 1>those of you listening who don't know what it means?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So simping means I think guilty of this as well.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a simp when you infatuate over someone, allowing them

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<v Speaker 2>to take over your mind. It cause you to do

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<v Speaker 2>things for them you wouldn't normally do.

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<v Speaker 1>Sound sounds a bit intense.

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<v Speaker 2>So what are you doing that you naturally wouldn't do

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<v Speaker 2>or normally wouldn't do?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think I just want to see him

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<v Speaker 1>all the time, and he wants to see me all

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<v Speaker 1>the time.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's working out really well.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's simping over you. I think he's.

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<v Speaker 1>Simping over me as much as I'm simping over him.

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<v Speaker 1>Couples simps, But yeah, we are a couple of simps.

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<v Speaker 1>But the problem is is that as we kind of

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<v Speaker 1>touched on an episode one, if you haven't listened to that,

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<v Speaker 1>go listen to it. So I guess we're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>in a situationship at the moment and we haven't really

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<v Speaker 1>defined anything. So I really like him. I think he

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<v Speaker 1>really likes me. I'm pretty sure he really likes me,

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<v Speaker 1>Like all of the signs are there, but we're not exclusive,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not boyfriend and girlfriend. So then those little thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>start to creep into my head, like is he seeing

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<v Speaker 1>anyone else? Is he sleeping with anyone else? You know?

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<v Speaker 3>And so we'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably not when he's spending six nights.

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<v Speaker 1>One other night when you're not with him. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I obviously called Matt last night late at night,

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<v Speaker 1>having a bit of the meltdown, being like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what should I bring up the conversation. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what's happening, and yeah, that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of where I'm at.

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<v Speaker 1>So we haven't had the chat, but I'm at a

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<v Speaker 1>point where I do want to have the chat because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not hooking up with anyone else and I'm hoping

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<v Speaker 1>that he's kind of on the same page.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're telling me you're gonna have the chat between

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<v Speaker 2>this episode and the next episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Should I commit to that?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we might be starting next week's episode with you

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<v Speaker 2>saying or it went horribly wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking so positive. Matt just crushed me back

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<v Speaker 1>down to reality.

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<v Speaker 2>Then no, good luck. I hope it goes well, and

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<v Speaker 2>it will. I've seen you guys together.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you like it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, he's a very funny man, not as funny

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<v Speaker 2>as me.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, enough about me. Tell me about the girl that

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<v Speaker 1>you've been seeing at the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>So like, this is the girl that we were talking

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<v Speaker 2>about we went on the double day with on the

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<v Speaker 2>last episode. We've been hanging out a fair bit. She

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<v Speaker 2>came around and met all my roomies.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's a big step.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean what was their thoughts. They liked her,

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<v Speaker 2>they thought she was funny, but there was just a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of things that I told them that they were

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<v Speaker 2>a bit iffy on. So there was two things in particular.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, share with the group.

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<v Speaker 2>So the first one was she we obviously had a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of drinks at mine, and she crashed at mine,

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<v Speaker 2>and the next morning we woke up, you know, cuddling

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<v Speaker 2>all that sort of stuff, and then she said that

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<v Speaker 2>she just abruptly like I'm going to leave. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, all right. I thought we could get

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<v Speaker 2>some breakfast, you know, watch a movie, cudd all the

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<v Speaker 2>stuff I like to do.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like a very need. I thought we've been locked

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<v Speaker 1>in for the day.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I've cleared my calendar for you, and

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<v Speaker 2>she goes, I want to go. It's like, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to go find myself. I'm going to go take

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<v Speaker 2>my shoes off and get grounded in a park and

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<v Speaker 2>go for a swim in the in the bay.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, I mean, we love a me day.

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<v Speaker 2>Fine, I've got nothing against a me day. Go to

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<v Speaker 2>your meet day, and.

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<v Speaker 1>That just prefers a wee day.

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<v Speaker 2>So I go, okay, all right, see you. Then so

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<v Speaker 2>she leaves. I chat to my mates, order some mob eats,

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<v Speaker 2>have a little bit of a nap, My food comes,

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<v Speaker 2>and I go, you know what, Sunday, hungover in bed.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do what I always do. I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have a scroll of the dating apps, you know, just

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<v Speaker 2>have a swipe. Nothing like something to do past time.

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<v Speaker 2>I've checked my Instagram. Nothing's being updated on there. So

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, so just swiping through and believe it

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<v Speaker 2>or not, the second person that comes up on the

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<v Speaker 2>dating app and it literally says just joined. Oh no,

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<v Speaker 2>was her? So I was like, well look, I was like, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not great. But now that I'm thinking about it,

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<v Speaker 1>you rolls on the dating app. So you both departed.

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<v Speaker 1>He went separate ways, and then you both went straight

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<v Speaker 1>to the dating app. So you're both keeping your options open.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah we are. So I'm not mad about going on

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<v Speaker 2>the dating app. It's more like you said, you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to find yourself, get rounded. I didn't know that was

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<v Speaker 2>swiping for boys on your phone. Swipe and right, I

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<v Speaker 2>was on the dating app. She's on the dating app,

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<v Speaker 2>so I guess I can't be mad. I'm not mad.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just like ooh, I was like busy girl.

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<v Speaker 1>Mainly because you wanted to hang out with her. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to and maybe she didn't want to hang out

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<v Speaker 1>with you. I'm sorry to break it to you. What's

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<v Speaker 1>the second red flag that the rooms are a bit

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<v Speaker 1>iffy about?

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<v Speaker 2>All right? I just want to start by saying, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't make this up. This one. This is one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>percent of the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>I was here on this night, and let me tell

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<v Speaker 1>you, you actually can't make this shit up. This is wild.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the reason why we started a podcast. This

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<v Speaker 1>stuff actually happens to us.

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<v Speaker 2>This is word for word what happens. So you, myself

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<v Speaker 2>and our producer a but went out for some drinks.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're having some drinks, we're having dinner. The girl

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<v Speaker 2>I'm seeing was out, you're the guy you're seeing. Came

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<v Speaker 2>to our drinks and I invited her to and then

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<v Speaker 2>she said, I'm at the Botanical, which is a club

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<v Speaker 2>in Melbourne, and she's like a bar and she was

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<v Speaker 2>like come now. She pretty much summoned me, didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>She she summoned you there, She's like now like.

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<v Speaker 2>Just in caps, like in like I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>like three different messages, and I was like, all right, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going, let's go pack up. So we all left.

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<v Speaker 2>We hopped in different vers. You and your blow copped

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<v Speaker 2>in one, me and you and your block, Me and

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<v Speaker 2>Amber hopped in ours, and then we went to the Bot.

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<v Speaker 2>So when we arrived, Amber and me were walking down.

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<v Speaker 2>We're walking down the hill.

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<v Speaker 1>En route to the bar.

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<v Speaker 2>So from where we were to the bot takes what

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<v Speaker 2>a maximum of five minutes, I think. Yeah. So we're

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<v Speaker 2>walking down the hill and there's like people walking out,

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<v Speaker 2>walking in and then this this guy and this girl

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<v Speaker 2>are holding hands walking towards Amber and myself and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh yeah, And then they got closer and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, she looks.

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<v Speaker 1>Familiar And who wasn't Matt.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a girl I'm seeing.

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<v Speaker 1>So basically, what you're telling me is this girl you're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing has summoned you.

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<v Speaker 2>Summoned to see to.

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<v Speaker 1>Go and see her immediately, and within ten minutes of

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<v Speaker 1>you arriving at the bar that she told you to

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<v Speaker 1>meet her at, she was leaving with someone else.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she was leaving with another another guy. So they're

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<v Speaker 2>walking out, they're walking towards us, and then she puts

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<v Speaker 2>his arm around her, and I'm like like, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>What are you guys doing? And then he turns around

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<v Speaker 2>and he's like, we're getting a drink, mate, what's the

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<v Speaker 2>big deal. But I was like, I was like no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>and I said her name, and I'm like, what are

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<v Speaker 2>you doing? And then she's like she was looking at

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<v Speaker 2>the ground. She looked up and she's like Matt, Matt,

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<v Speaker 2>and she came and gave me a hug and she's like,

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<v Speaker 2>thank god you're here. Like I was like, she said

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<v Speaker 2>that was like inception, like about the timing, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, inception, this isn't a dream inside of a dream.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, this is reality. And you were leaving with

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<v Speaker 2>that guy.

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<v Speaker 1>With someone else.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I like she goes, no, I wasn't leaving

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<v Speaker 2>with him, and I was like I looked at like

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<v Speaker 2>dead in the eyes, and I was like, you're bitterly

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<v Speaker 2>kissing this guy leaving and you're not, and she goes,

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't leaving, and I was just like, we're.

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<v Speaker 1>A little confused. I was like that gaslighting is that

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<v Speaker 1>like gaslighting is when you know something is fat. So

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<v Speaker 1>I know this guy is blue and someone's like this

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<v Speaker 1>guy is green and you're like, no, it's blue, and they're.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, no, that's green.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, I know you were leaving with that guy

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<v Speaker 1>and she's like, no, it was them.

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<v Speaker 3>We're planting each other's hair.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they were genuinely leaving together. So yeah, that was

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<v Speaker 2>the second red flag that my mates are a bit

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<v Speaker 2>iffy on.

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<v Speaker 1>So did that break your heart a little bit?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>It was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a bit shit to see.

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<v Speaker 1>Did it kind of feel like maybe you were being

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<v Speaker 1>cheated on even although you weren't together and aren't together

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<v Speaker 1>and we're not saying it was cheating, but it kind

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<v Speaker 1>of maybe felt a little bit like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, we there's no conversation of what we are. We're

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<v Speaker 2>not having any of those chats. But in the situation

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<v Speaker 2>or the situationship we were in, I expect the bare minimum.

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<v Speaker 3>Literally, that's all I want them being.

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<v Speaker 2>The bare minimum is if you invite me to a

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<v Speaker 2>bar in the five minutes it takes my uber to

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<v Speaker 2>get there, don't leave with another guy, but just hold

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<v Speaker 2>on for me. I'm getting there. I told I told

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<v Speaker 2>you on my way.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're not asking for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not asking for much, am I. So we'll see

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<v Speaker 2>where that go. I did feel quite, I did feel

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<v Speaker 2>quite portrayed a hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, look on that note, let's get into our

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<v Speaker 1>cheating episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Anna, what do you think cheating is? Obviously there

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<v Speaker 2>is different versions of it. What's your opinion of it?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think the standard that I would set

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<v Speaker 1>for myself is if I'm doing something that I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>do if my partner was right beside me, then it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably cheating. Like would I send this guy a flame

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<v Speaker 1>emoji if my boyfriend was sitting right beside me, Probably not,

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<v Speaker 1>So I probably shouldn't do it if he's not there

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<v Speaker 1>the old flame emoji. We know that you're well versed

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<v Speaker 1>in the flame emogic.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think obviously everyone has a different version of cheating.

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<v Speaker 2>So in my opinion, for me, it would be something

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<v Speaker 2>that I feel guilty about. But I would think if

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<v Speaker 2>I felt guilty and I was like, hang on, like

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't like that happening to me, Yeah, then that

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<v Speaker 2>I figured that as a cheating Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's totally a valid point and I think

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<v Speaker 1>in relationships trust is so important and breaking that trust

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<v Speaker 1>in a relationship is so damaging. There are different types

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<v Speaker 1>of cheating, right.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's there's three main ones.

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<v Speaker 3>There's three main ones.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's physical cheating, which is pretty self explanatory, just

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<v Speaker 1>breaking that touch barrier, whether it's kissing, having sex with

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<v Speaker 1>or anything in between.

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<v Speaker 3>Then there's emotional cheating.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is when someone establishes a close relationship with someone

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<v Speaker 2>else who isn't their partner, which means like they're talking

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<v Speaker 2>to someone, they're meeting up with someone, they're just emotionally

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<v Speaker 2>investing in someone that isn't their partner.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, developing a bond or a longing for someone else.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's a lot deeper.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone would say a lot worse than maybe even physical cheating.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think is worse?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a good question. It's tricky, it is. I would

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<v Speaker 2>have to say physical.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd say physical like I'd say.

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<v Speaker 2>Physical, like you could fall into that situation. It could

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<v Speaker 2>be with a like a work employee, it could be

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<v Speaker 2>with someone that like you know that you're spending a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of time with through default.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't make it okay.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't make it okay. No, but there's a bit

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<v Speaker 2>more understanding physical cheating. You literally have to like it

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<v Speaker 2>takes two to tango, like you have to be as well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, yourself in that situation to

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<v Speaker 2>do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, no type of cheating is good, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think the physical cheating it's so hard. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they're both just as bad as each other, if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>being really honest.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the third one is micro cheating.

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<v Speaker 1>Explain to us what micro cheating is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the act of flirting with someone continuously or like

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<v Speaker 2>little touching with someone inappropriate ways, and the small things

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<v Speaker 2>that you're insinuating.

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<v Speaker 1>Like maybe you're not in a relationship, yeah, that you're

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<v Speaker 1>single and you like someone you like just micro cheating.

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<v Speaker 1>So just like flirting with someone at a bar could

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<v Speaker 1>be considered as micro cheating.

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<v Speaker 2>Flame reacting to people's stories, that's micro cheating because it's

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<v Speaker 2>not really talking to anyone, but it's like you're insinuating

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<v Speaker 2>that you're single.

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<v Speaker 1>So it could be like liking a girl's bikini photo

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 3>Micro cheating.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And everyone has different levels and standards and boundaries

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<v Speaker 1>that they set up in their own relations.

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<v Speaker 2>And they should set them early as well, so the

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<v Speaker 2>other partner knows what you expect from them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but yeah, exactly, And I think what's cheating in

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<v Speaker 1>one relationship might be really accepted in another. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's good to remember that everyone's relationships are different,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think we have to respect those boundaries that

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<v Speaker 1>people set up in their own relationships.

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<v Speaker 3>So in saying that, why do people actually.

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<v Speaker 2>Cheat, Well, there's multiple different reasons of why people cheat,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel, but one of the main ones I would

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<v Speaker 2>say is not enough love and attention from their partner.

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<v Speaker 2>They might need it. Their partner might be busy with work,

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<v Speaker 2>might be busy with the children, you know, all different

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<v Speaker 2>sorts of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're looking for that love somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and sad, but yeah, that's sort of things that happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I mean, I guess that's kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>when people get into relationship ruts and they're just so

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<v Speaker 1>on routine and doing the same thing and nothing's new

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<v Speaker 1>and exciting, and they get a bit bored, and then.

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<v Speaker 2>The three of cheating might be what they needed to

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<v Speaker 2>stimulate their life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're like, I mean, I think that another huge

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<v Speaker 1>reason that people cheat is they don't have the balls

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<v Speaker 1>to break up with their partner, so they kind of

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<v Speaker 1>go into this self destructive mode where they kind of

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<v Speaker 1>go a bit rogue and they don't try and cover

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<v Speaker 1>up the cheating they want. They're pushing limits. Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>want to get found out because they're breaking up with people.

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<v Speaker 1>As we know, it is so difficult.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a bold strategy.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think sometimes also people do it subconsciously, Like

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<v Speaker 1>subconsciously they're not happy, so they're willing to.

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<v Speaker 3>Push those limits.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you reckon that people cheat because they think that

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<v Speaker 1>the grass is greener.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. I think a lot of people they see their

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<v Speaker 2>single mates, their single roommates, thees, sing siblings, friends, they're

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<v Speaker 2>all single and they're having fun. They're going out having fun.

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<v Speaker 1>But it looks like a fun time being single though, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like a great time.

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<v Speaker 2>It does. But look, I'm gonna say, the grass isn't

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<v Speaker 2>always greener. On the other side, it's greener where you

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<v Speaker 2>worter it.

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<v Speaker 3>Amen to that, yea.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you're in a relationship and you think that

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<v Speaker 2>being single is better, I think that maybe you should

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<v Speaker 2>focus on the relationship and try and make that work

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<v Speaker 2>and make that fun. Yeah, go out with your partner

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well we've spoken about this. To find someone who

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<v Speaker 1>you really connect with, who you click with, that is

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<v Speaker 1>so special, that's so amazing, and not everyone finds that.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're lucky enough to have found that and

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<v Speaker 1>it's the right timing for you and things have.

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<v Speaker 2>Aligned, don't take it for granted.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't take it for granted.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when you meet someone and you have that

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<v Speaker 1>spark and your best friends invest your energy into that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think also a reason why people think the grass

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<v Speaker 1>is greener, that type of nomenon exist is.

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<v Speaker 3>Because of social media, because everything looks so.

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<v Speaker 1>Perfect, and guys and girls go on to social media

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<v Speaker 1>and they look at, you know, these amazing accounts with

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<v Speaker 1>fun and excitement and travel and amazing lifestyles and everyone just.

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<v Speaker 2>Like everyone looking dressed up, really nice, looking really hot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and they think, oh my god, I'm sitting here

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<v Speaker 1>at home watching TV with this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>On all these other guys that, yeah, going out and

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<v Speaker 2>having fun. But again, people put onto social media what

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<v Speaker 2>they want people to see.

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<v Speaker 3>It's curated.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a very small portion of what's actually going

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<v Speaker 1>on in someone's life. And nine times out of ten,

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<v Speaker 1>if someone hasn't absolutely killer feed they're not enjoying that

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<v Speaker 1>party there. They're taking a million photos so that you

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<v Speaker 1>think that they're enjoying that part, and then.

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<v Speaker 2>They're looking through them all and favoriting which ones they

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<v Speaker 2>want exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then they're editing process. Don't go down this

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<v Speaker 1>social media black hole of thinking someone else's life is

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<v Speaker 1>much better than yours, because nine times out of ten,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>Not at all. Okay, guys, it's time to play where's

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<v Speaker 2>their head at our quick fire quiz where you guys

0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:17.720
<v Speaker 2>have sent in scenarios and we tell you whether it's cheating,

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<v Speaker 2>not cheating, or just disrespectful.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so the first one is staring at another girl's

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<v Speaker 1>boobs or bum cheating, disrespectful or not cheating.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just disrespectful to your partner and the girl.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think so too. I think it's disrespectful watching porn,

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<v Speaker 1>not cheating, I think not cheating, But I think if

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<v Speaker 1>you are substituting your partner for porn, then it's a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of.

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<v Speaker 3>A disrespectful situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Like if you're watching porn all the time and then

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<v Speaker 1>they want to have sex with you and you're like, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good, then maybe you should think that I've already

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<v Speaker 1>done liking other girl's bikini posts.

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<v Speaker 2>Disrespectful, disrespectful. I won't do that if I'm in a relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>Keeping ex's nudes, What do you need them for? Exactly?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's cheating. I mildly cheating, mildly cheating, because

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<v Speaker 1>what are you doing with those moods of your eggs?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>These questions, what's going on out there?

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<v Speaker 1>Where's your head out? So what do you think?

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, just disrespectful, very disrespectful. What do you

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<v Speaker 2>need for? Almost cheating?

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think mildly cheating. Okay, flirting with other people?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it flirting with intent or a chat with intent?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, yeah, I think it's I think it's crossing

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<v Speaker 3>the line.

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<v Speaker 2>It is, it's not it's not nice. That's that's that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Micro cheating, like we spoke about. So that's technically cheating.

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<v Speaker 2>Technically cheating. Yeah, I mean I think a.

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<v Speaker 3>Little bit of a flirt here and there is okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Not right in front of your partner.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you to do when they're not dog you?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if my partner was flirting with a guy

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<v Speaker 2>in front of me, I'd be a bit like.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're like, that's fine, don't flirt with them in

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<v Speaker 1>front of me, But when I'm not here, go for

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<v Speaker 1>your life.

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<v Speaker 2>Its bliss.

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<v Speaker 3>Telling another girl she's pretty?

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<v Speaker 2>Again, where's the intent? Like, if you're just telling them

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<v Speaker 2>they look nice, I mean, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Think that's cheating. I don't think that's cheating. No, No, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think so goes to a party without telling you.

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<v Speaker 2>Technically not cheating, Like pretty disrespectful.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty disrespectful, And why aren't you telling what are you

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<v Speaker 1>doing at the party?

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<v Speaker 2>Some people don't need to tell their partners there every

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<v Speaker 2>movement though.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and again that comes to relationship and what each

0:23:01.359 --> 0:23:05.080
<v Speaker 1>relationship does. But in a relationship with me, I would.

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<v Speaker 2>Say, probably say where are you movements?

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<v Speaker 1>Please?

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<v Speaker 2>No, we're not that crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, going to the strip club secretly, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That's cheating. I'd say, we're not cheating, You're not doing anything.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's just these are hard because it falls into

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<v Speaker 2>the category of like disrespectful.

0:23:30.840 --> 0:23:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think they're falling into the disrespectful category as well.

0:23:33.960 --> 0:23:37.000
<v Speaker 2>But it's boundaries, like we said earlier, But I.

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<v Speaker 1>Feel like all of these things seem a bit dodgy,

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<v Speaker 1>like they could be doing something really wrong. Like, why

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<v Speaker 1>are you going to a party and not telling your partner.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's safe to say if they're doing this

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<v Speaker 2>dodgy stuff, there's probably other dodgy stuff happening probably.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like this isn't I think when these when all

0:23:54.240 --> 0:23:56.639
<v Speaker 1>of these types of things start to build up, you

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<v Speaker 1>can probably.

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<v Speaker 2>Start to get a bit worried.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not to worry, okay. The last one is flicking

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<v Speaker 1>through a dating app when you're in a relationship, but

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily meeting.

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<v Speaker 2>Up with people cheating.

0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:15.280
<v Speaker 3>I think cheating as well, I reckon in this.

0:24:15.280 --> 0:24:17.760
<v Speaker 2>Day and age, a massive thing is when you get

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<v Speaker 2>into a relationship with someone, it's a step you delete

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<v Speaker 2>your dating apps totally.

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<v Speaker 3>I completely agree.

0:24:22.840 --> 0:24:25.160
<v Speaker 2>You delete them. So the fact that you've still got them, yeah,

0:24:25.240 --> 0:24:26.200
<v Speaker 2>I think is a red flag.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think as well, like social media, some would

0:24:30.440 --> 0:24:33.440
<v Speaker 1>argue is kind of like a dating app because you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yah, you agree, I agree one hundred percent.

0:24:37.920 --> 0:24:40.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I mean I think at a bare minimum,

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<v Speaker 1>to delete your actual it's not like you're deleting all

0:24:45.240 --> 0:24:47.720
<v Speaker 1>your social media at the moment you get into a relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, just having respect is a huge one.

0:24:52.640 --> 0:24:55.800
<v Speaker 1>And that was there's their head app Thanks for playing.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so the burning question here is who's the cheater

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<v Speaker 2>and who's been cheated on? Would you like to go first?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, I've never cheated on a partner. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been cheated on quite badly, which I'm going to share

0:25:12.560 --> 0:25:15.439
<v Speaker 1>in a minute, but that is the cheating.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, look I was. I cheated on my girlfriend

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<v Speaker 2>when I was seventeen. Okay, so I was young. I

0:25:26.520 --> 0:25:29.439
<v Speaker 2>mean I've learned from that, Like, yeah, it's you know,

0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:31.080
<v Speaker 2>it's one of those things where she was such a

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<v Speaker 2>great girl, awesome girl. If timing was different, who would

0:25:35.080 --> 0:25:36.840
<v Speaker 2>have known. But it's a shame that I had to

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<v Speaker 2>learn that lesson through her. Yeah, you like, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>shame and I feel bad that I heard it. Even

0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:44.399
<v Speaker 2>when I think about it now, I still feel bad. Yeah,

0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:47.000
<v Speaker 2>but it was one of those things. Like I was seventeen,

0:25:47.040 --> 0:25:50.080
<v Speaker 2>it was my eighteenth birthday, went out. I never really

0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:54.119
<v Speaker 2>grew up being like a good looking guy. So I

0:25:54.119 --> 0:25:56.400
<v Speaker 2>went through puberty and I started getting all these girls

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<v Speaker 2>attention and I didn't know what to do with it.

0:25:58.119 --> 0:26:00.880
<v Speaker 1>And I was out in a club and it could

0:26:00.880 --> 0:26:02.800
<v Speaker 1>have been an ego thing, which is a reason why

0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:03.480
<v Speaker 1>people cheat.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, one hundred percent agree. It was an ego thing.

0:26:05.359 --> 0:26:07.640
<v Speaker 2>It killed my ego at the time. And I went

0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:11.920
<v Speaker 2>around and I kissed a couple of girls, and.

0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:13.360
<v Speaker 1>Jeez, you didn't even go for one.

0:26:13.960 --> 0:26:16.240
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like, and again, the relationship was on the

0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:18.080
<v Speaker 2>rocks at the time. Anyway, It wasn't like we were

0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:21.200
<v Speaker 2>in this like like ideal relationship. It wasn't.

0:26:21.440 --> 0:26:22.560
<v Speaker 3>But it's still cheating.

0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:24.359
<v Speaker 2>It's still cheating. Nonetheless, it's still cheating.

0:26:24.480 --> 0:26:25.280
<v Speaker 3>Talk me through this.

0:26:25.680 --> 0:26:28.840
<v Speaker 1>You've gone out that night, you got drunk, you kissed

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of girls. What was that feeling when you

0:26:32.359 --> 0:26:35.080
<v Speaker 1>first woke up in the morning and remembered what had

0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:36.159
<v Speaker 1>happened the night before?

0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:37.879
<v Speaker 2>Guilt?

0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:39.520
<v Speaker 3>Riddled with gil.

0:26:39.359 --> 0:26:45.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, riddled with gil y Yeah, hungover guilty, Yeah it was.

0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:47.720
<v Speaker 3>And I mean, so it's not a good feeling.

0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:49.639
<v Speaker 2>It's not. The reason I haven't done it since is

0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:52.400
<v Speaker 2>because like that of that feeling.

0:26:52.480 --> 0:26:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, way on you?

0:26:54.000 --> 0:26:56.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah yeah, And it's and I even like, I

0:26:57.000 --> 0:26:59.159
<v Speaker 2>feel hard, I feel difficult talking about it now. You

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<v Speaker 2>tell like I was, she was a really nice girl,

0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:04.159
<v Speaker 2>and I hate to have learned that lesson with her.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And so then you went to family dinner.

0:27:07.280 --> 0:27:10.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for my birthday, my eighteen yep, And yeah, she

0:27:10.320 --> 0:27:12.920
<v Speaker 2>found out and broke up with me and really haven't

0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:14.280
<v Speaker 2>spoken much to her since.

0:27:14.480 --> 0:27:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:17.679
<v Speaker 2>I dated her for two years, sixteen to eighteen.

0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:19.840
<v Speaker 3>So she was your first proper girlfriend in.

0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:23.399
<v Speaker 2>The puppy love stage, is what it is?

0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:24.119
<v Speaker 3>Heartbreaking?

0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:26.399
<v Speaker 2>What about yourself? You said you got cheated on?

0:27:27.040 --> 0:27:28.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've been on the other end.

0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:30.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, so I'm on like this.

0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:31.880
<v Speaker 2>How old were you?

0:27:31.920 --> 0:27:33.919
<v Speaker 3>And I was nineteen?

0:27:34.320 --> 0:27:37.920
<v Speaker 1>And again it was my first, like you, my first,

0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:40.720
<v Speaker 1>I think, my first love, like this was the first

0:27:40.760 --> 0:27:43.440
<v Speaker 1>guy who I loved and it was a bit of

0:27:43.480 --> 0:27:44.720
<v Speaker 1>a rocky relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>He was a DJ. I read, I was a club promoter.

0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:55.520
<v Speaker 2>Red match Made in Heaven, very DJ, it's a red flighter.

0:27:56.920 --> 0:28:01.280
<v Speaker 1>And he ended up running a party up in Byron

0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Bay with schoolies and so he was a bit older,

0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:05.880
<v Speaker 1>so he was technically.

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 2>A tully bit red flag.

0:28:08.520 --> 0:28:11.360
<v Speaker 1>So many red flags. I wasn't seeing any of them.

0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:15.480
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, we were together. I dropped him off at

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:19.440
<v Speaker 1>the airport so he could go to Byron Nice of you,

0:28:20.040 --> 0:28:22.960
<v Speaker 1>very nice of me. Picked him up seven days later,

0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:28.479
<v Speaker 1>and the first like major telltale sign that he had

0:28:28.560 --> 0:28:30.760
<v Speaker 1>cheated on me. Was after I had picked him up

0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:33.000
<v Speaker 1>from his seven day vacation in Byron Bay where he

0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:35.720
<v Speaker 1>was partying every night. He got in the car and

0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:39.000
<v Speaker 1>just kept looking at me, deeply into my eyes and

0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:42.240
<v Speaker 1>staring at me as I was driving, and just kept saying,

0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:45.400
<v Speaker 1>You're so beautiful, I'm so lucky to be with you,

0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:48.680
<v Speaker 1>And then actually got to a point where he started

0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:51.360
<v Speaker 1>tearing up, being like I just love you so much.

0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:54.280
<v Speaker 3>Like he was like.

0:28:53.480 --> 0:28:57.600
<v Speaker 2>Crying, and I was like, go any more guilty.

0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:01.640
<v Speaker 1>At the time, I was just like, he's like cute,

0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:05.880
<v Speaker 1>he lost me so much, but in hindsighted so obvious,

0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:09.040
<v Speaker 1>the nineteen year old me was just I was just

0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:09.760
<v Speaker 1>laughing it up.

0:29:10.880 --> 0:29:13.880
<v Speaker 2>All the attention. You're like, yeah, reassurance.

0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:15.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 2>So how'd you find out?

0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:20.560
<v Speaker 1>Then? Okay, so two months later we were still together.

0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I didn't find out straight away. And I

0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:29.200
<v Speaker 1>actually went to coffee with his best friend two months later.

0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:30.120
<v Speaker 2>As a date.

0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:33.400
<v Speaker 1>What just as friends friend? Yeah, we were all friends.

0:29:33.520 --> 0:29:35.600
<v Speaker 1>I was friends with all of his friends. And I

0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:39.880
<v Speaker 1>went to coffee with his best friend and during coffee,

0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:43.600
<v Speaker 1>mid coffee, his best friend said to me, and keeping

0:29:43.640 --> 0:29:47.000
<v Speaker 1>in mind the best friend was the only way that

0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:49.800
<v Speaker 1>I would have ever found out he.

0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:51.640
<v Speaker 2>Sold out his best mate.

0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:57.840
<v Speaker 1>So basically, I'm sitting at coffee and he looked at

0:29:57.880 --> 0:30:01.320
<v Speaker 1>me and he said, I have something to tell and

0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:03.640
<v Speaker 1>then I was like yeah, and then he's like, oh no, no, no, no,

0:30:03.800 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 1>I can't say it. I can't say it. I can't

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:06.920
<v Speaker 1>do it. I can't do it. And at that point

0:30:07.000 --> 0:30:10.560
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm finding out what it is you

0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:13.520
<v Speaker 1>have to say, and I basically pulled it out of

0:30:13.560 --> 0:30:15.840
<v Speaker 1>his best friend and he was like, you just don't

0:30:15.840 --> 0:30:19.240
<v Speaker 1>deserve this. You're a great girl. I think you're amazing.

0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:23.720
<v Speaker 1>And your boyfriend cheated on you six times in seven

0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:27.000
<v Speaker 1>days when he was in schoolies at Byron Bay.

0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:28.960
<v Speaker 2>Six and seven days.

0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:34.200
<v Speaker 1>Six girls in seven days, and wow, when I configure

0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 1>and do it, I can laugh about it now, but

0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:45.320
<v Speaker 1>at the time I was devastating. I've never been so

0:30:45.440 --> 0:30:49.520
<v Speaker 1>heartbroken in my whole life. Like I remember being like,

0:30:49.720 --> 0:30:53.280
<v Speaker 1>I will never get over this moment.

0:30:53.240 --> 0:30:55.560
<v Speaker 2>Because it given you trust issues going forward.

0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:56.760
<v Speaker 3>Major trust issues.

0:30:56.880 --> 0:31:00.760
<v Speaker 1>Major because I think as well, like when a partner's

0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:04.960
<v Speaker 1>going on holiday, you're really giving them a big level

0:31:04.960 --> 0:31:07.120
<v Speaker 1>of your trust and to have.

0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:10.960
<v Speaker 2>That smashed, especially to schoolies, especially.

0:31:10.520 --> 0:31:15.720
<v Speaker 1>To schoolies, and he was calling me every single night.

0:31:16.520 --> 0:31:19.160
<v Speaker 1>So every night that he got home. Sometimes I'd be

0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:22.280
<v Speaker 1>asleep and he'd call me at like two am being like.

0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:24.960
<v Speaker 3>Hey, I just got home. I love you, just wanted

0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:25.480
<v Speaker 3>to let you know.

0:31:26.840 --> 0:31:29.280
<v Speaker 1>Hangs up the phone and goes into the room to

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:33.560
<v Speaker 1>sleep with the girl. I mean, it's wild. The levels

0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:37.000
<v Speaker 1>he went to were wild. But anyway, I ended up

0:31:37.800 --> 0:31:39.440
<v Speaker 1>after the coffee with his friend.

0:31:39.800 --> 0:31:41.280
<v Speaker 2>Did you call him out on it? Obviously?

0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:44.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I called him and confronted him about it, and

0:31:44.240 --> 0:31:48.960
<v Speaker 1>he completely denied it, like went into full denied, denied

0:31:48.960 --> 0:31:51.960
<v Speaker 1>denial mode, which we're going to talk about. The denied,

0:31:51.960 --> 0:31:53.400
<v Speaker 1>denied deny is.

0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:55.320
<v Speaker 2>What a lot of people do when they're caught out cheating.

0:31:55.480 --> 0:31:59.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's that culture that we kind of have in

0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:03.440
<v Speaker 1>this society where people think it's better to not be

0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:06.960
<v Speaker 1>honest with their partner and to let them live in

0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:08.360
<v Speaker 1>this fairyland bubble.

0:32:08.640 --> 0:32:11.720
<v Speaker 2>Say he was honest and had said, yes, Anna, I

0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:15.640
<v Speaker 2>fucked up. I fucked up. I slept with six girls

0:32:15.640 --> 0:32:16.479
<v Speaker 2>and seven nights.

0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:18.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean I feel like a fuck Up's like after

0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:21.120
<v Speaker 1>the first night you call them and say, I did

0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:24.520
<v Speaker 1>I think six it's an intentional thing. And so therefore,

0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:27.240
<v Speaker 1>even if he was honest, he's still.

0:32:27.000 --> 0:32:29.960
<v Speaker 2>In the bin. Yeah, you're right. I tried to give

0:32:30.040 --> 0:32:31.800
<v Speaker 2>him benefit of the doubt, but fuck, bro, you did

0:32:31.800 --> 0:32:32.280
<v Speaker 2>it to yourself.

0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's in a trash bin. He's non recyclable, catching

0:32:35.480 --> 0:32:39.800
<v Speaker 1>my mup. Yeah, And so he denied it, and so

0:32:39.960 --> 0:32:43.000
<v Speaker 1>his best friend, because he didn't want to be seen

0:32:43.040 --> 0:32:45.280
<v Speaker 1>as a liar, actually ended up.

0:32:45.760 --> 0:32:46.680
<v Speaker 2>Are they still friends?

0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:48.520
<v Speaker 3>No, that was the end of their friend.

0:32:49.080 --> 0:32:50.320
<v Speaker 2>Did you have a crack at the best friend?

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:54.720
<v Speaker 1>Then no, absolutely not that he the friend actually ended

0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:57.400
<v Speaker 1>up going through all of the club photos from the

0:32:57.440 --> 0:33:01.760
<v Speaker 1>schooli's events and found this photo zoomed in on it

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:05.000
<v Speaker 1>and he had a hickey on his neck and this

0:33:05.080 --> 0:33:07.320
<v Speaker 1>is my ex boyfriend or my boyfriend of the time

0:33:07.560 --> 0:33:10.360
<v Speaker 1>he cheated. Yeah, he had a hickey on it from

0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 1>one of his one night stands. And when I asked

0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:18.240
<v Speaker 1>him about it, his response was, Oh, did I forget

0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:20.560
<v Speaker 1>to tell you about the fight I got in where

0:33:20.600 --> 0:33:24.920
<v Speaker 1>I landed on my neck? Did I forget to mention that?

0:33:25.360 --> 0:33:28.440
<v Speaker 1>And at that point I was like, this is over. Mah,

0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:35.520
<v Speaker 1>what a dip shit, right, at least believable, Like.

0:33:35.520 --> 0:33:38.320
<v Speaker 2>Surely there's a say you were just yeah, your mate

0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:41.360
<v Speaker 2>gave it to you. I don't know something better than that.

0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:44.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, I think honesty is the best policy,

0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:48.680
<v Speaker 1>but in that situation, just be honest, like you've been

0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:51.600
<v Speaker 1>caught out. You've already been caught out. But let's not

0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:55.520
<v Speaker 1>make up a miscellaneous fight that never happened. It didn't happen.

0:33:56.720 --> 0:33:59.360
<v Speaker 2>You see the other guy though, hickes he's got from me.

0:34:01.160 --> 0:34:04.080
<v Speaker 3>Trash.

0:34:04.920 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So when you've caught your partner cheating, there's a

0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:09.440
<v Speaker 1>few things that they can do.

0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:12.120
<v Speaker 3>The first one is deny.

0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:19.760
<v Speaker 1>So there's this massive culture and mentality around deny, deny, deny, I.

0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:23.120
<v Speaker 3>Think, especially with males. Would you agree.

0:34:23.320 --> 0:34:26.160
<v Speaker 2>I tend to agree with that. Yeah, that the when

0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:27.880
<v Speaker 2>I did it, when I was younger, I had that

0:34:27.920 --> 0:34:30.600
<v Speaker 2>mentality of denying, deny and deny, like if I don't

0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:33.640
<v Speaker 2>believe it, did it really happen? It happened. It's for

0:34:33.719 --> 0:34:36.080
<v Speaker 2>gay it didn't happen. Like if I don't believe it,

0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:37.879
<v Speaker 2>you don't believe it. It never happened. It wasn't a thing.

0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:42.200
<v Speaker 2>I feel that that's it's really shit way about going

0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:44.400
<v Speaker 2>about it. Obviously, that guilt you have to walk around

0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:46.960
<v Speaker 2>with you have to live with that knowing that you

0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:49.760
<v Speaker 2>did cheat on your partner, your significant other.

0:34:49.719 --> 0:34:51.680
<v Speaker 3>And it's a burden, right.

0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:54.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, can eat away at you. And if you continue

0:34:54.200 --> 0:34:56.239
<v Speaker 2>to stay with them, like I don't know anything to

0:34:56.239 --> 0:34:57.680
<v Speaker 2>do that just be eating weight. You'd be at the

0:34:57.719 --> 0:35:00.640
<v Speaker 2>back of your mind. You'd continuously think, I've cheated on

0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:01.760
<v Speaker 2>this person that I love.

0:35:01.719 --> 0:35:03.560
<v Speaker 1>For someone that's not really even worth it, who I

0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:07.880
<v Speaker 1>don't really know, whatever, whatever the circumstances is, it's just

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:12.320
<v Speaker 1>not worth it. And I think it is a younger mentality,

0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:14.320
<v Speaker 1>Like you said that you did that when you're younger,

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:17.239
<v Speaker 1>but now you've kind of evolved and you realize that

0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:19.240
<v Speaker 1>honesty is the best policy.

0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:21.520
<v Speaker 2>It is, And I feel like if you're honest about it,

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:23.920
<v Speaker 2>then you've got nothing to hide, and your conscience is.

0:35:23.920 --> 0:35:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Clear exactly and you can sleep well at night.

0:35:27.040 --> 0:35:29.880
<v Speaker 2>Knowing IF's fucked up. But I was honest and I

0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:31.600
<v Speaker 2>expressed it. I told him.

0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:34.399
<v Speaker 1>And I think sometimes if you do something that might

0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:37.799
<v Speaker 1>have crossed the line or something that's a bit out

0:35:37.840 --> 0:35:40.400
<v Speaker 1>of character, I think the best thing to do is

0:35:40.600 --> 0:35:40.960
<v Speaker 1>just to.

0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:42.560
<v Speaker 3>Be honest about it.

0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:45.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like I'm not saying go have sex with someone

0:35:45.800 --> 0:35:48.479
<v Speaker 1>and then you know. I'm not saying you should cheat

0:35:48.480 --> 0:35:50.880
<v Speaker 1>on someone, but in relationships, I'm sure there are.

0:35:50.760 --> 0:35:51.680
<v Speaker 3>Things that people do.

0:35:51.800 --> 0:35:54.720
<v Speaker 1>No one's perfect, no one's perfect, right, And I think

0:35:54.880 --> 0:35:56.839
<v Speaker 1>if you're honest with your partner, it can build a

0:35:56.880 --> 0:36:00.840
<v Speaker 1>closer bond because you realize it what what ever happens,

0:36:01.000 --> 0:36:02.719
<v Speaker 1>I know that they're going to be honest with me.

0:36:03.120 --> 0:36:05.399
<v Speaker 1>And we did a poll on our Where's your head

0:36:05.400 --> 0:36:08.879
<v Speaker 1>at pod Instagram page and we asked you guys, would

0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:11.279
<v Speaker 1>you prefer to know if your partner cheated on you,

0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:13.840
<v Speaker 1>even if it was never going to happen again, And

0:36:14.000 --> 0:36:17.919
<v Speaker 1>eighty six percent of the people on our page said

0:36:17.960 --> 0:36:21.040
<v Speaker 1>that they would prefer to know. And I think it

0:36:21.120 --> 0:36:23.640
<v Speaker 1>was really telling as well that seventy three percent of

0:36:23.680 --> 0:36:26.560
<v Speaker 1>you guys thought that it was better if your partner

0:36:26.760 --> 0:36:28.319
<v Speaker 1>was honest with you about the.

0:36:28.320 --> 0:36:32.160
<v Speaker 2>Cheating, so people would rather find out than have it

0:36:32.239 --> 0:36:33.120
<v Speaker 2>kept a secret from him.

0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:36.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think people want like an honest, open relationship.

0:36:36.239 --> 0:36:37.879
<v Speaker 1>At the end of the day, we all want that.

0:36:38.360 --> 0:36:41.279
<v Speaker 1>No one wants to be number one be in a

0:36:41.320 --> 0:36:45.160
<v Speaker 1>deceitful relationship, and no one wants to be harboring guilt

0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:46.880
<v Speaker 1>and secrets from their partner.

0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:50.120
<v Speaker 2>Imagine everyone else knows, but you don't know as well.

0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:52.520
<v Speaker 3>That's my worst nightmare. Genuinely.

0:36:52.800 --> 0:36:56.279
<v Speaker 1>One of the scariest things to me is walking into

0:36:56.320 --> 0:36:58.399
<v Speaker 1>a room with my boyfriend hand in hand.

0:36:58.400 --> 0:37:00.360
<v Speaker 3>I've imagined this scenario many.

0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:03.759
<v Speaker 1>Times, me walking into a room with my boyfriend hand

0:37:03.800 --> 0:37:06.120
<v Speaker 1>in hand, and then there's a group of girls in

0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:09.080
<v Speaker 1>the corner or a group of people and they're like, Oh,

0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:13.520
<v Speaker 1>her boyfriend's cheating on her with this person, or he's

0:37:13.840 --> 0:37:15.759
<v Speaker 1>been hooking up with this person, or he's been talking

0:37:15.840 --> 0:37:16.239
<v Speaker 1>to my friend.

0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:17.560
<v Speaker 3>That's my worst nightmare.

0:37:17.640 --> 0:37:19.279
<v Speaker 2>That would be brutal. If it was I was in

0:37:19.320 --> 0:37:21.840
<v Speaker 2>the same situation with a girl and that happened, I

0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:23.359
<v Speaker 2>would kill you, wouldn't it.

0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:25.920
<v Speaker 1>It would absolutely kill you. And it also feels like

0:37:25.960 --> 0:37:29.560
<v Speaker 1>your partner's disrespected you. But then they're also humiliating you

0:37:29.640 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 1>because they're allowing other people to talk about you behind

0:37:34.440 --> 0:37:37.480
<v Speaker 1>your back, and that's just not okay.

0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:41.400
<v Speaker 2>I used to feel like ignorance is bliss, but definitely not.

0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:44.640
<v Speaker 2>I yeah, you want to know. I used to feel like,

0:37:44.640 --> 0:37:46.520
<v Speaker 2>if they cheated on me, just break up with me

0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:48.319
<v Speaker 2>and don't tell me. You know what I mean? But

0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:50.200
<v Speaker 2>then again, you would probably want to know why they

0:37:50.239 --> 0:37:51.319
<v Speaker 2>did break up with you.

0:37:51.760 --> 0:37:54.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it's good to know the whole story

0:37:54.880 --> 0:37:59.280
<v Speaker 1>of why things have deteriorated, because, as we've spoken about

0:37:59.320 --> 0:38:03.359
<v Speaker 1>in the past, every relationship is a lesson, and if

0:38:03.400 --> 0:38:06.920
<v Speaker 1>you're being hidden from.

0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:08.880
<v Speaker 2>The lesson, how are you going to grow and how

0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:10.440
<v Speaker 2>are you going to learn for your next relationship?

0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:10.960
<v Speaker 3>Exactly?

0:38:11.080 --> 0:38:12.520
<v Speaker 2>I know what to do so you don't get yourself

0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:14.160
<v Speaker 2>stuck in that same situation.

0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:16.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think as well.

0:38:16.360 --> 0:38:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Another thing that people do when they get caught cheating

0:38:19.200 --> 0:38:20.520
<v Speaker 1>is gaslight.

0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:25.080
<v Speaker 2>So you were you mentioned gas lighting earlier when yeah,

0:38:25.200 --> 0:38:28.799
<v Speaker 2>when they say something isn't true, but it clearly.

0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Is when you know for a fact that something is true,

0:38:31.920 --> 0:38:32.680
<v Speaker 1>like you saw.

0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:36.719
<v Speaker 2>Them leaving so on, and they say they did it

0:38:36.760 --> 0:38:37.200
<v Speaker 2>and you're like.

0:38:37.800 --> 0:38:40.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And then you start questioning your own reality. You're

0:38:40.480 --> 0:38:45.040
<v Speaker 1>like like going crazy, is this a me problem?

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:46.800
<v Speaker 3>And it's toxic.

0:38:47.040 --> 0:38:50.640
<v Speaker 2>It is. Yeah, I've been gaslighting people before and yeah,

0:38:50.640 --> 0:38:53.520
<v Speaker 2>it's definitely toxic. It makes you question a whole sense

0:38:53.520 --> 0:38:55.880
<v Speaker 2>of reality, your whole sense of sanity, like what's going on?

0:38:56.040 --> 0:38:56.960
<v Speaker 2>Like you just.

0:38:56.920 --> 0:39:02.280
<v Speaker 1>Feel generally as a whole unset you just never really

0:39:02.920 --> 0:39:06.759
<v Speaker 1>can relax. That's how it feels. Does I think it

0:39:06.880 --> 0:39:09.719
<v Speaker 1>also makes you feel vulnerable and just like you're in

0:39:09.760 --> 0:39:12.640
<v Speaker 1>the wrong for accusing them of such a thing, like

0:39:12.680 --> 0:39:15.319
<v Speaker 1>how could you accuse me of doing that? You know?

0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:19.359
<v Speaker 1>So it's it's really toxic and it's really dangerous. There's

0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:21.439
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people who studied body language as well,

0:39:21.520 --> 0:39:23.920
<v Speaker 1>so they know exactly what a liar is going to do,

0:39:23.960 --> 0:39:25.279
<v Speaker 1>like are they going to look to the left or

0:39:25.320 --> 0:39:27.520
<v Speaker 1>the right, or like are they going to tell me

0:39:27.560 --> 0:39:29.800
<v Speaker 1>the truth? So they'll ask their partner a question and

0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:33.040
<v Speaker 1>then they'll just study the shit out of their body

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:35.120
<v Speaker 1>language and they'll make their own mind up.

0:39:35.880 --> 0:39:39.440
<v Speaker 2>Wow, people go to extreme lengths.

0:39:39.600 --> 0:39:41.400
<v Speaker 3>People do go to extreme length.

0:39:41.239 --> 0:39:43.800
<v Speaker 2>To catch their partners cheating. What are some of them?

0:39:43.960 --> 0:39:46.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so we asked you guys on our socials and

0:39:46.920 --> 0:39:48.920
<v Speaker 1>there were some great ones.

0:39:49.360 --> 0:39:52.560
<v Speaker 2>Some people people going to some extreme lengths. I mean

0:39:52.640 --> 0:39:53.680
<v Speaker 2>some of them. I was like, whoall.

0:39:54.320 --> 0:39:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Some people have flown into state to follow their partner

0:39:57.120 --> 0:39:59.239
<v Speaker 1>because they know they're out of town for work and

0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:02.520
<v Speaker 1>they're making sh But what they're doing is work, and

0:40:02.600 --> 0:40:04.440
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the time they have caught them cheating.

0:40:04.480 --> 0:40:06.320
<v Speaker 1>From the stories that we heard, Yeah.

0:40:06.120 --> 0:40:09.560
<v Speaker 2>They've hired pis adding their location setting to their phone

0:40:09.560 --> 0:40:12.600
<v Speaker 2>so they can track their partners every movements, track.

0:40:12.440 --> 0:40:16.720
<v Speaker 1>Their every move So yeah, sharing their location. I think

0:40:17.000 --> 0:40:20.560
<v Speaker 1>a big one was keeping track of their Snapchat score,

0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:23.480
<v Speaker 1>so they're checking to see how much their scores going up.

0:40:23.480 --> 0:40:26.000
<v Speaker 1>By then they can basically tell how many people they're

0:40:26.000 --> 0:40:26.360
<v Speaker 1>talking to.

0:40:26.520 --> 0:40:28.200
<v Speaker 2>I used to have a mate that when it was

0:40:28.239 --> 0:40:31.920
<v Speaker 2>like Snapchat Top friends, and he used to so he

0:40:32.040 --> 0:40:33.120
<v Speaker 2>used you know how, he used to have a top

0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:36.399
<v Speaker 2>friend on Snapchat could see his top friends. He would

0:40:36.400 --> 0:40:38.600
<v Speaker 2>obviously talk to girls on Snapchat when he was with

0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:42.279
<v Speaker 2>his partner, so they wouldn't get he wouldn't get caught out. Yeah,

0:40:42.320 --> 0:40:45.120
<v Speaker 2>but it'd randomly during the day, you get random messages

0:40:45.200 --> 0:40:47.920
<v Speaker 2>snapchat photos of him and he's like, Haha, what are

0:40:47.920 --> 0:40:48.680
<v Speaker 2>you up to today?

0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:50.520
<v Speaker 1>And you just feel like, so he's trying to get

0:40:50.560 --> 0:40:53.480
<v Speaker 1>you into his top friends. That's so naughty.

0:40:54.280 --> 0:40:57.000
<v Speaker 2>The girl your phone would be going off and you'd

0:40:57.000 --> 0:41:00.239
<v Speaker 2>be like, literally, he's one way conversation with whatever earl

0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:03.719
<v Speaker 2>he was talking, Like what the fuck are they talking

0:41:03.760 --> 0:41:07.799
<v Speaker 2>about now? So the top way that people were try

0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:10.000
<v Speaker 2>and catch their partners out for cheating, We found that

0:41:10.040 --> 0:41:10.799
<v Speaker 2>people sent in.

0:41:10.960 --> 0:41:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Was was they make a fake account. They add a

0:41:15.680 --> 0:41:19.560
<v Speaker 1>profile picture that they know is their partner's type, so

0:41:20.880 --> 0:41:24.680
<v Speaker 1>someone who they know their partner would normally go for

0:41:24.840 --> 0:41:27.919
<v Speaker 1>if they weren't with them, and then they start trying

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:31.239
<v Speaker 1>to talk to their partner as a fake account and

0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:32.400
<v Speaker 1>see if they buy it.

0:41:32.600 --> 0:41:34.520
<v Speaker 2>Imagine the lengths you have to go to. You have

0:41:34.600 --> 0:41:36.960
<v Speaker 2>to find the photos, you have to make the account

0:41:37.040 --> 0:41:40.959
<v Speaker 2>look genuine, so you have to buy follows, by comments,

0:41:41.400 --> 0:41:43.880
<v Speaker 2>by likes. Imagine the lenks you have to go to

0:41:44.000 --> 0:41:44.400
<v Speaker 2>to do that.

0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:46.680
<v Speaker 3>People are willing to go to those lanes.

0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:49.640
<v Speaker 2>At that point you just think like, all right, maybe.

0:41:49.600 --> 0:41:53.320
<v Speaker 1>But you know what. The crazy thing about doing that

0:41:53.600 --> 0:41:56.640
<v Speaker 1>is that a lot of the people caught their partner

0:41:56.880 --> 0:42:02.040
<v Speaker 1>talking back, and I mean essentially emotionally or micro cheating,

0:42:02.880 --> 0:42:05.440
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people said that they broke up

0:42:05.480 --> 0:42:06.520
<v Speaker 1>with their partner because of.

0:42:06.480 --> 0:42:16.040
<v Speaker 2>This, Like, my dumb ass, would I feel like I

0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:19.040
<v Speaker 2>would if I really liked someone, I wouldn't reply back

0:42:19.080 --> 0:42:20.440
<v Speaker 2>to anyone. Yeah, I wouldn't.

0:42:20.480 --> 0:42:22.160
<v Speaker 3>If you really like them, you wouldn't. But if you

0:42:22.200 --> 0:42:22.960
<v Speaker 3>were a hundred.

0:42:24.640 --> 0:42:29.320
<v Speaker 2>Sub flame, react, So if you caught out your partner

0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:31.080
<v Speaker 2>for cheating, if it was in any of those ways,

0:42:31.160 --> 0:42:34.440
<v Speaker 2>like a fake account, you tracked their movements, anything like that.

0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:39.040
<v Speaker 2>Would you take them back after knowing they've possibly slept

0:42:39.080 --> 0:42:43.080
<v Speaker 2>with someone, kissed someone, or they have emotionally cheated on you.

0:42:43.320 --> 0:42:44.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to say no.

0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:47.600
<v Speaker 1>I think in the situation that I'm in right now,

0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:51.000
<v Speaker 1>it's a strong no from me. I just I think obviously,

0:42:51.680 --> 0:42:54.160
<v Speaker 1>because I've been cheated on so badly in the past,

0:42:54.840 --> 0:42:58.080
<v Speaker 1>it's very triggering to me any sort of cheating. And

0:42:58.600 --> 0:43:00.440
<v Speaker 1>I think if I was in a situation where I

0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:04.040
<v Speaker 1>had kids, I might see things through a different lens.

0:43:04.080 --> 0:43:06.719
<v Speaker 1>But as it stands, I just think any sort of

0:43:06.800 --> 0:43:08.279
<v Speaker 1>cheating is unacceptable to me.

0:43:08.400 --> 0:43:10.000
<v Speaker 3>And I know what I'm like.

0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:14.360
<v Speaker 1>If someone cheated on me, I know that they're gonna

0:43:14.360 --> 0:43:18.760
<v Speaker 1>get crazy anna incoming hard and fast. Like I would

0:43:18.760 --> 0:43:21.479
<v Speaker 1>be on their phone. I'd be asking them like where

0:43:21.480 --> 0:43:24.400
<v Speaker 1>they're going? If they're talking to someone who I don't know,

0:43:24.440 --> 0:43:27.440
<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, who's that? I just I honestly, and

0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:29.759
<v Speaker 1>it's not even for their benefit. I just wouldn't want

0:43:29.760 --> 0:43:34.440
<v Speaker 1>to put myself through that emotional turmoil of just feeling

0:43:34.520 --> 0:43:36.200
<v Speaker 1>completely caught up and.

0:43:36.400 --> 0:43:38.040
<v Speaker 3>Overwhelmed with that situation.

0:43:38.120 --> 0:43:42.040
<v Speaker 1>Because as we've said, relationships are all about trust, and

0:43:42.080 --> 0:43:46.160
<v Speaker 1>once that trust is gone, it takes an enormous amount

0:43:46.200 --> 0:43:50.640
<v Speaker 1>of effort to build it back up. And I think

0:43:50.680 --> 0:43:55.239
<v Speaker 1>if someone's willing to put your relationship in jeopardy, then

0:43:55.239 --> 0:43:56.000
<v Speaker 1>that's not for me.

0:43:56.560 --> 0:43:58.680
<v Speaker 2>And I mean, they mustn't have much value on it.

0:43:58.719 --> 0:43:59.440
<v Speaker 2>If there will, they.

0:43:59.400 --> 0:44:01.600
<v Speaker 3>Don't respect, they don't value you.

0:44:02.200 --> 0:44:07.319
<v Speaker 1>And I know every situation is different, but yeah, I

0:44:07.400 --> 0:44:09.759
<v Speaker 1>just I don't think that I would be able to

0:44:09.800 --> 0:44:11.839
<v Speaker 1>come back from that because I wouldn't want to put

0:44:11.840 --> 0:44:12.640
<v Speaker 1>myself through it.

0:44:12.840 --> 0:44:14.759
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, what about you? Do you think that you

0:44:14.800 --> 0:44:16.880
<v Speaker 3>could come back from a partner cheating on you?

0:44:17.360 --> 0:44:20.600
<v Speaker 2>Look, I feel like to everyone that has taken their

0:44:20.600 --> 0:44:23.160
<v Speaker 2>partner back after they've cheated on them, look, that's what

0:44:23.200 --> 0:44:25.400
<v Speaker 2>you want to do. I don't feel like I could.

0:44:25.680 --> 0:44:28.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't feel like. Look, if they'd slept with someone else,

0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:30.640
<v Speaker 2>if they you know what I mean, that someone else

0:44:30.719 --> 0:44:33.600
<v Speaker 2>had been with the person that you love, who's meant

0:44:33.600 --> 0:44:36.240
<v Speaker 2>to give you everything and they're meant to love you,

0:44:36.680 --> 0:44:39.880
<v Speaker 2>then that trust is portrayed's and that's it takes a

0:44:39.880 --> 0:44:41.600
<v Speaker 2>lot to build up, and I don't think you can

0:44:41.640 --> 0:44:44.080
<v Speaker 2>build that up through I can't even know how you

0:44:44.160 --> 0:44:46.200
<v Speaker 2>could to be honest with, Like, how do you build

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<v Speaker 2>that trust back?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's definitely possible, and I know that there's

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<v Speaker 1>I have friends who have successfully overcome cheating and it

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<v Speaker 1>was a one time thing and it never happened again.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think if someone takes someone back, they're either

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<v Speaker 2>very secure in themselves and they know what they've got,

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<v Speaker 2>or they're very insecure about themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's a case by case.

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<v Speaker 2>It has to be.

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<v Speaker 3>It has to be a case by case.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just feel like I would be so after that.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you imagine being deeply in love with your partner

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<v Speaker 1>and that happens left field, and it just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>shakes you. I don't think it necessarily makes you insecure

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<v Speaker 1>or not like secure enough. I just think that maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you just love them so much and are willing to

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<v Speaker 1>do anything to make the relationship work. And there's totally

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing wrong with that. There's not, but yeah, I've

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<v Speaker 1>just been through it, and I just wouldn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>put myself through it again. I think.

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<v Speaker 3>The only redeeming thing about.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone that's cheated and to get your back.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think the only redeeming thing about cheating or

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<v Speaker 1>someone trying to get you back after cheating would be

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<v Speaker 1>if there were one hundred percent honest from day dot,

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<v Speaker 1>like they said, I I fucked up.

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<v Speaker 3>I hold my hands up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah I'm guilty.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm guilty.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's try and make this work so so it

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<v Speaker 2>does it never happens again.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then obviously they put in like an enormous

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<v Speaker 1>amount of effort. But like even then, for me, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's difficult to think about. But yeah, I think honesty

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<v Speaker 1>is definitely the best policy. The moment. The moment that

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<v Speaker 1>there's any sort of deceit after cheating, I just think

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<v Speaker 1>that's all over red Rover.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's just me.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone's different, and I'm sure that there's plenty of people who,

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<v Speaker 1>like as I said, like friends of mine who have successful.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen it happen before. I know people that have

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<v Speaker 2>been cheated on and they've taken their partner back and

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<v Speaker 2>they've they're happy, they've grown and now they're married. In

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<v Speaker 2>that like, it can happen. But for me, I would

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<v Speaker 2>find it very hard. I would I would struggle.

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<v Speaker 3>And maybe that's an ego thing for both of us.

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<v Speaker 1>We could be talking totally on ego right now, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think we probably are.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm not good enough for you. You mean that

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<v Speaker 2>Joe down the corners.

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<v Speaker 1>Him over this.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I think we're probably talking on ego.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm probably talking on past traumas from cheating incidents,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, it's a correlation of all of those things.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I think everyone can make that decision in

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<v Speaker 1>the situation.

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