Speaker 1: From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray Live.
Speaker 2: Hi, thank you very much for watching. What a Wednesday
Speaker 2: Night I have for you. Let's get straight into it here.
Speaker 2: The past couple of nights we've been talking about a
Speaker 2: report that says three million Australians are right on the
Speaker 2: line of homelessness, in part because of how few rental
Speaker 2: properties there are and the ones that people do have,
Speaker 2: well they're going up in price. It means that three
Speaker 2: million people are right on the line. We also here
Speaker 2: today that the number of businesses that are simply closing down,
Speaker 2: that are either giving up or going bust is basically
Speaker 2: the same today as it was during the absolute worst
Speaker 2: of Lockdown's what the best.
Speaker 1: Part of three and four years ago.
Speaker 2: In fact, today figures that have been released by credit
Speaker 2: data monitoring company credit Watch on Wednesday show that one
Speaker 2: in twenty businesses across the country is failing as consumer
Speaker 2: spending drives up and high costs hit the bottom line.
Speaker 2: One in twenty businesses failing. The record number of businesses
Speaker 2: that have collapsed is basically the same as the worst
Speaker 2: of the pandemic, and three million people are right on
Speaker 2: the homeless line. But what's our government doing with your money.
Speaker 2: Chris Bowen is overseas. He's kissing the ring of China,
Speaker 2: as is Anthony Abernezi the Australian government, meaning you are
Speaker 2: going to spend an extra fifty million dollars giving money
Speaker 2: to countries like China to deal with climate change. The
Speaker 2: Australian government has committed an extra fifty million dollars towards
Speaker 2: a global fund to deal with the loss and damage
Speaker 2: courts by climate change. Now remember, China wants one point
Speaker 2: eighty for trillion dollars to go from countries like ours,
Speaker 2: the countries like theirs, because they are developing. Now there
Speaker 2: are serious questions in the third World, the Global South,
Speaker 2: the developing hemispheres. But the idea that China deserves any
Speaker 2: of our taxpayers money when it, of course, is where
Speaker 2: most of the solar panels get made. It is where
Speaker 2: slave labor is making them as we speak. It is
Speaker 2: threatening global order and stability, It is inventing islands, and
Speaker 2: it has a space station. They can shove it a
Speaker 2: bit more from Cris bow Casanover says, this builds on
Speaker 2: our foundation one hundred million dollars and now we're up
Speaker 2: to one hundred and fifty million dollars that we are
Speaker 2: giving to other countries at the same time when one
Speaker 2: in twenty Australian businesses are failing and three million people
Speaker 2: are right on the line when it comes to homelessness.
Speaker 1: This is a disgrace. Now for those who believe.
Speaker 2: That Australia is a rich and prosperous country must do
Speaker 2: its bit for the rest of the world.
Speaker 1: I understand the point of foreign aid.
Speaker 2: I understand the need for foreign aid. But when this
Speaker 2: government is standing by and borrowing money, largely from China,
Speaker 2: to give taxpayers money to countries like China to deal
Speaker 2: with climate change is a disgrace. I do not understand
Speaker 2: how this government says that any dollar that is spent
Speaker 2: helping out people with cost of living will be there
Speaker 2: will be inflationary, therefore they can't spend it. But they
Speaker 2: can borrow billions of dollars for offshore projects. They can
Speaker 2: borrow billions of dollars for off budget priorities. This is
Speaker 2: a game and they are playing us for fools. Now again,
Speaker 2: do I expect that every person who is in financial
Speaker 2: stress is about to receive a one million dollar check
Speaker 2: from their fellow taxpayer. No, but the working poor in
Speaker 2: this country, who supposedly are represented by this government, this
Speaker 2: labor party, are working harder and getting poorer. Three million
Speaker 2: people are right now on the line when it comes
Speaker 2: to homelessness. One in twenty businesses currently failing. The number
Speaker 2: of businesses that are going bust is right at the
Speaker 2: same level as the height of the pandemic. Yet these
Speaker 2: people have the hid to turn around and say everything's
Speaker 2: fine with the economy. We're broken in the back of inflation.
Speaker 2: Their mates in the media turn around and say mission accomplished,
Speaker 2: Mission accomplished. How can a country like ours be in
Speaker 2: a place like this, And rather than spending that fifty
Speaker 2: million dollars on food bank to feed these people, they
Speaker 2: spend it to look good on the international scene. This
Speaker 2: federal government, who is of course in charge of a
Speaker 2: country that is responsible for one percent of the world's problem,
Speaker 2: will in part compensate a country that is thirty three
Speaker 2: percent of the worldld's problem, while by mandate, by law,
Speaker 2: forcing us into technologies that are built by China with
Speaker 2: slave labor that will be utterly useless in twenty years time,
Speaker 2: they'll be in landfill. This is madness now for much
Speaker 2: of the political establishment. They will say, well, of course,
Speaker 2: that's just Sky News, that's just Paul going on about
Speaker 2: what it normally does.
Speaker 1: Normal people can see this. It is about priorities.
Speaker 2: When the government spends more money on its own advertising
Speaker 2: to pump its own tires about two little too late
Speaker 2: tax cuts than it spends on the organizations that are
Speaker 2: feeding the poor, the working poor that are growing by
Speaker 2: the day, then people know the priorities are wrong in
Speaker 2: this country.
Speaker 1: Again.
Speaker 2: They can find money down the back of the couch
Speaker 2: to make themselves look good when they go overseas. They
Speaker 2: can find down the back of the couch for brand
Speaker 2: new planes to fly themselves overseas. They expect that companies
Speaker 2: give them upgrades to the front of the plane even
Speaker 2: when they go on holidays.
Speaker 1: Yet they pretend to be the champions of the working poor.
Speaker 1: They are not. They have contempt.
Speaker 2: The only attitude that they have to people who are
Speaker 2: the working poor or are on things like permanent pensions
Speaker 2: is that you will just vote labor anyway, you'll vote
Speaker 2: green anyway. There's no day you will ever walk away
Speaker 2: from them.
Speaker 1: Well, let's make this very clear.
Speaker 2: There is an opportunity for anyone else in the political
Speaker 2: specter from Peter Dutton to Pauline Hansen to say that
Speaker 2: one of their priorities is to actually deal with helping
Speaker 2: the people who are right on the line. When we
Speaker 2: have a country where not three million people are this
Speaker 2: close to homelessness, or one in twenty businesses are smashing
Speaker 2: against the wall, then we've got money to start doling out.
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what, of the developed countries, the
Speaker 2: last one who deserves a dollar of ours is China.
Speaker 2: Which brings me to some of the fall out and
Speaker 2: the reaction to that excellent documentary. Thank you to everyone
Speaker 2: who gave incredible feedback, and again congratulations to Chris Yellman
Speaker 2: and his team for putting together that.
Speaker 1: Real cost of net zero.
Speaker 2: Well, we have a little clearer example of just how
Speaker 2: big the renewable solution is to the problem quote unquote,
Speaker 2: that is, moving from one energy system that works to
Speaker 2: the one that makes them feel good when they go
Speaker 2: around the world on the private jets, the front of
Speaker 2: the planes, or of course to international conferences that they
Speaker 2: hope to bring here. Let's do a little bit of
Speaker 2: a rough sum here. One of the great things about
Speaker 2: that documentary last night was Chris explaining just how much
Speaker 2: renewable energy would need to be built in order to
Speaker 2: match the current grid, let alone how many solar panels
Speaker 2: and win you would need to build in order to
Speaker 2: have a grid that is even bigger than the current
Speaker 2: one because everything is connected to electricity, cars, cooking, you
Speaker 2: name it. Right today, the Victorian government, who in part
Speaker 2: one the last state election on the hope to set
Speaker 2: up a state government owned energy company, has now decided
Speaker 2: that holess Bolus on its own it will pay for
Speaker 2: a solar farm in and around Horsham.
Speaker 1: Now the good thing is here.
Speaker 2: We can start to do some sums about how much
Speaker 2: it actually costs to do the bow and dream about
Speaker 2: fifty thousand homes will end up being powered as a
Speaker 2: result of this renewable energy park in Horsham. Here is
Speaker 2: the Victorian Premier patting yourself on the back for the
Speaker 2: decision she is making.
Speaker 3: We're going to see a massive solar farm and battery
Speaker 3: story project.
Speaker 4: This is with partnering with ox two.
Speaker 3: This has seen a three hundred and seventy million dollar
Speaker 3: investment being made through the SEC the horseh and renewable
Speaker 3: energy park on this site. It's going to see the
Speaker 3: project's going to include one hundred and nineteen megawatts solar
Speaker 3: farm being built right here on this site, and one
Speaker 3: hundred megawat two hour battery that's also going to be constructed.
Speaker 1: Two hour battery. So the sun does not shine for eight, ten, twelve.
Speaker 2: Hours, but don't worry, there's a battery that's full of
Speaker 2: the energy that comes out of the solar panels for
Speaker 2: two hours. No one says, okay, Premier, Premier, preer. I
Speaker 2: understand the point. I understand what you're doing here, But
Speaker 2: do you not agree that while you say that this
Speaker 2: is going to power fifty thousand homes, you've actually just
Speaker 2: admitted that at night, the power runs out after two hours. Now,
Speaker 2: of course, this is the whole point. It's not just
Speaker 2: the cost of the wind farm. It's not just the
Speaker 2: cost of the solar, it's the cost of the storage.
Speaker 2: It's the cost of the power line. But let's work
Speaker 2: off the numbers that they gave us here today. So
Speaker 2: the solar panel system is going to cost about three
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy million dollars. I think we've got a
Speaker 2: couple of pictures of what this thing's going to look like.
Speaker 2: Seventy fifty one thousand homes to be precise. Okay, so
Speaker 2: fifty one thousand homes and the solar panels that will
Speaker 2: help power those homes will cost three hundred and seventy
Speaker 2: million dollars.
Speaker 1: Now, let's extend this.
Speaker 2: There are two million, eight hundred and ten thousand, seven
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy five homes in Victoria. Based off the
Speaker 2: three hundred and seventy million dollars for fifty one thousand,
Speaker 2: that would equal twenty point three billion dollars. Twenty point
Speaker 2: three billion dollars would be how much money would be
Speaker 2: needed in that new investment, and that, by the way,
Speaker 2: is to have a battery that will last for two hours.
Speaker 2: There are eleven million homes across the country. That would
Speaker 2: be seventy nine point eight billion dollars. The documentary was
Speaker 2: fascinating for so many levels, but most importantly, this is
Speaker 2: not a postage stamp in Europe. This is not a
Speaker 2: country that can throw an extension cord somewhere else. The
Speaker 2: idea that this is the solution. Oh, but it's the
Speaker 2: cheapest form of energy available, Not at seventy nine billion dollars,
Speaker 2: not at three hundred and seventy five million dollars. For
Speaker 2: fifty one thousand homes to be connected to a battery
Speaker 2: that will last for just two hours once the sun
Speaker 2: goes down.
Speaker 1: Oh, but of.
Speaker 2: Course I'm just a knuckle drager. Now, normally I don't
Speaker 2: do the international thing too early in the show, and
Speaker 2: there's certainly lots of other conversations about the rest of
Speaker 2: the world. However, we have to note something, which is
Speaker 2: that the war in Ukraine is starting to move to
Speaker 2: a new level, and a new level which could result
Speaker 2: in the potentials of the beginning of the closest thing
Speaker 2: to a world war since, of course, the nineteen forties.
Speaker 2: Now we know that Russia invaded Ukraine. Ukraine has a
Speaker 2: right to defend itself. They are doing so with the
Speaker 2: support of the Western world, and principally with the help
Speaker 2: of the United States. But a decision was made by
Speaker 2: Joe Biden after the election that guaranteed that his vice
Speaker 2: president would not take over from him in the lamest duck.
Speaker 2: Part of a lame duck presidency, he has announced that
Speaker 2: United States missiles can be used by Ukraine. And guess
Speaker 2: what they have been. These missiles are not being fired
Speaker 2: in Ukraine by Ukraine to hit the Russians that are
Speaker 2: in Ukraine, these are now being fired into Russia. The
Speaker 2: response from Putin is to say that this is a
Speaker 2: new level of attack and potentially a nick might be
Speaker 2: the option. Of course, if that's the case. Despite the
Speaker 2: fact that Ukraine is of course not part of NATO,
Speaker 2: every country around it, with the exception of Russia, is
Speaker 2: part of NATO, one hit on a NATO country equals
Speaker 2: all in. Now again, as frightening as all of this
Speaker 2: scenario is, and I hope that it is just another
Speaker 2: bit of Russian bluster and nothing comes of it. And
Speaker 2: I am not entering into the how much and the
Speaker 2: what and all the rest of it about how Ukraine
Speaker 2: is going to defend itself, But could somebody please explain
Speaker 2: to me who the hell is in charge of the response,
Speaker 2: Who is making sure that we do not get as
Speaker 2: close to a world war as we were in the
Speaker 2: nine en forties. Literally, as we speak, Joe Biden is
Speaker 2: coming back from the G twenty, where he couldn't be
Speaker 2: bothered turning up the photo ops. They didn't even wait
Speaker 2: for him, and of course, famously after he finished his speech,
Speaker 2: he just wandered off into the jungle.
Speaker 1: Now, of course you know that he's following a path
Speaker 1: and ends up back in a hotel. But that's the image.
Speaker 2: That's the image of the leader of the free world
Speaker 2: at a time when Russia is saying, because of the
Speaker 2: decisions of that bloke, there's a chance nukes might be involved. Meantime,
Speaker 2: the Vice President, let's imagine Joe's out to lunch, the
Speaker 2: Vice president, yes, licking her wounds after an election that
Speaker 2: her people and her believed was going to go her way.
Speaker 1: Well, she's not in Washington. She's nowhere near the situation room.
Speaker 1: In fact, she's buggered off to Hawaii.
Speaker 2: She's on holidays, and she can have all the holidays
Speaker 2: that she wants on January twenty, when she hands in
Speaker 2: her gun and she hands in her badge. But till
Speaker 2: then you've got effectively a gone fishing sign which has
Speaker 2: been put out in the front of the White House.
Speaker 2: This is extraordinary a decision to escalate that Biden refuses
Speaker 2: to answer. He's an example of press trying to ask
Speaker 2: him about why did you take this to the next
Speaker 2: level when your time is running out?
Speaker 1: This is frightening. It truly is.
Speaker 2: Thank goodness Trump's coming, and thank good Trump is going
Speaker 2: to be able to take over on the twentieth, but
Speaker 2: there's only one president, one government at a time. We'll
Speaker 2: talk about this with nine l Farage, our special guests,
Speaker 2: and I make sure we have proper.
Speaker 1: Time for it tonight here on Paul Murray Live.
Speaker 2: You know, I always get a bit emotional when it
Speaker 2: comes to subjects about kids. Why because mine are little
Speaker 2: and like you, I'd die for them a thousand times over. Well,
Speaker 2: as we know, our politicians right now are having conversations
Speaker 2: where it's about the social media use of kids, it's
Speaker 2: about a censoring the Internet bill. Thankfully, the censoring the
Speaker 2: Internet bill won't happen, and jeez, pay attention to all
Speaker 2: the people that are trying to take a victory lap
Speaker 2: on a story that they have barely talked about for
Speaker 2: the past two years some of the anyway, Thankfully, that's
Speaker 2: not going to be an issue here. That bill's just
Speaker 2: going to die and let's see whether that vote happens.
Speaker 2: We need the vote to happen otherwise that it was
Speaker 2: pull it and that hangs like a sword over everyone
Speaker 2: for another twelve months, including running.
Speaker 1: Into the election.
Speaker 2: But we also learned today again another example of how
Speaker 2: kids are not okay now I get it. They're too
Speaker 2: soft because of participation trophies. And by the way, their
Speaker 2: parents got participation trophies as well. They didn't just get
Speaker 2: invented in the past two years. There's been around for
Speaker 2: too long, the best part of twenty years. Yes, they're
Speaker 2: too soft because of a lack of resilience for a
Speaker 2: whole collection of reasons that exist. But it's not their
Speaker 2: fault when little kids are struggling. What about this for
Speaker 2: a story today? Parents, grandparents, aren't his uncle's friends. Eight
Speaker 2: year old's well, sorry, eight years old, I should say,
Speaker 2: is now the age that children start experiencing.
Speaker 1: Serious mental health declinent? What is wrong with this joint?
Speaker 2: Three million people, this close to the homelessness line, one
Speaker 2: in twenty businesses and now eight years old. Is when
Speaker 2: a country like Australia has a scenario where kids are
Speaker 2: starting to have serious mental health the client and a
Speaker 2: shocking report revealing that the danger age has now dropped
Speaker 2: from ten years old to eight years old.
Speaker 1: Wake up, Australia.
Speaker 2: The kids are not all right and it ain't their
Speaker 2: fault and we've got to do our bit to try
Speaker 2: to save them. The Smiling Mind survey of almost three
Speaker 2: thousand children aged has this between four and twelve and
Speaker 2: their parents. Highlights how the rising levels of stress and
Speaker 2: anxiety and parents is wearing off on their offspring. Cost
Speaker 2: of living and parental responsibilities are weighing heavily on mums
Speaker 2: and deaths.
Speaker 1: So here's the deal.
Speaker 2: Can you make me a promise tonight? If you are
Speaker 2: the mum, the dad, the nana, the poppa, the auntie,
Speaker 2: the cousin, or just the person who has little people
Speaker 2: in your life, can you please look them in the
Speaker 2: eye and tell them that you're always here for them.
Speaker 2: They will never get in trouble for talking about how
Speaker 2: they feel and we will work through this together. If
Speaker 2: they don't want to talk to us, then can you
Speaker 2: please write this telephone number down and can you put
Speaker 2: it on your fridge at home. If you've got kids
Speaker 2: or older kids or grandkids, the Kids Helpline one hundred
Speaker 2: double five one hundred free call anywhere in the country
Speaker 2: one hundred double five one eight hundred, or if the
Speaker 2: kids would prefer to text someone or do it online,
Speaker 2: go to kids Helpline dot com dot au. Write that down,
Speaker 2: put it on the fridge. How the heck did we
Speaker 2: get to the spot we're an eight year old is
Speaker 2: the new line when people start to have mental health
Speaker 2: issues in this country.
Speaker 1: Dear goodness, we.
Speaker 2: Are not a place that is in the middle of
Speaker 2: a war. We are not having a famine. There is
Speaker 2: not many of the social issues that exist.
Speaker 1: Around the world. But this is the facts.
Speaker 2: And again, if you're just somebody who says, oh, that's
Speaker 2: just teaspoonful of cement and hard enough. Okay, great, cool,
Speaker 2: that's not going to work. All right, it's big, it's complicated.
Speaker 2: I can't solve it. We can't solve it quickly. But
Speaker 2: if they're in trouble, for goodness sake, let's give them
Speaker 2: the tools to be able to dig their way out.
Speaker 2: Let's give them their helping hand to pull them out,
Speaker 2: or let's make sure that we throw the ladders of
Speaker 2: support their way. We love every single and if you
Speaker 2: are a young person watching this, either on the Telly
Speaker 2: or on a video later, we love you and we
Speaker 2: need you. And as tough as it can be, and
Speaker 2: I know it can be tough, believe me, tomorrow is better.
Speaker 1: Believe me, tomorrow is better.
Speaker 2: The Kids Helpline write the number down one hundred, double five,
Speaker 2: one hundred Kids Help line dot com dot A you
Speaker 2: strength and love to any and everyone who struggles in
Speaker 2: this country. I talk about it not because it's politically advantageous,
Speaker 2: but because it is the human thing to do, and
Speaker 2: we are that before we are anything else. A few
Speaker 2: other things worth mentioning now. Farmers, of course, of recent years,
Speaker 2: have shown themselves to be the real line in the
Speaker 2: sand when it comes to what people are willing to cop.
Speaker 2: Remember the brave Canadian farmers and truckers and their fight
Speaker 2: again since the indeacy of COVID lockdowns, and then of
Speaker 2: course of recent years, particularly French farmers but also ones
Speaker 2: wider across Europe, they were fighting back against again stupid
Speaker 2: crazy new rules. Well he's a new one that's coming
Speaker 2: our way.
Speaker 1: UK farmers. UK farmers have taken to the streets.
Speaker 2: They are pushing hard against new rules put in place
Speaker 2: by every London centric government that of course is punishing
Speaker 2: people in regional areas because they have no issue about
Speaker 2: how they vote, because they will never end up voting
Speaker 2: labor sound familiar to what happens here in Australia. One
Speaker 2: of the people who took to the streets is none
Speaker 2: other than the bloke who's sensational show on Amazon called
Speaker 2: Clarkson's Farm Jeremy Clarkson.
Speaker 1: You've got to watch this. You've really got to watch
Speaker 1: this show.
Speaker 2: He's funny, he's interesting, but most importantly he shows you
Speaker 2: the plight of life in rural areas. And you can
Speaker 2: see this is a swashbuckling bloke from London who's decided
Speaker 2: to experience that life, the people and the life we
Speaker 2: know is tough.
Speaker 1: Here is why he took to the streets.
Speaker 5: She said the past, if she'd have wanted to take
Speaker 5: out the likes of James Dyson and investment bankers and
Speaker 5: so on, she would have used a sniper's rifle. But
Speaker 5: she's used the blunderbus and she's hit all this lot.
Speaker 5: It was, as I understand it, it was a very rushed,
Speaker 5: last minute decision, and I think, you know, we all
Speaker 5: make mistakes in life, and I think it's time for
Speaker 5: them to say, you know what, we've got this one
Speaker 5: up a bit and back down.
Speaker 1: That's my view, right, that's why he's in it.
Speaker 2: Hill copped of course, in an around the rifle conversation,
Speaker 2: he is an explanation though about the wider issue and
Speaker 2: why they were protesting.
Speaker 6: Look at this. This is really chasing. I think this
Speaker 6: is farm business income. This is for cropping farm so
Speaker 6: horticulture cereals in the light over the last three years.
Speaker 6: Last year, nearly one hundred thousand pounds was the average income,
Speaker 6: not profit money coming through the door. Look at last
Speaker 6: year less than fifty thousand pounds been a dreadful year
Speaker 6: on the farm. You're only bringing in less than fifty
Speaker 6: pounds on average through the door before you account for
Speaker 6: a profit. And you've got a big tax bill annually.
Speaker 6: You've got to think where is that money going to
Speaker 6: come from? And that is where without tax planning. There
Speaker 6: are ways around this. You can pass the states on
Speaker 6: seven years early. You can get life insurance. But that's
Speaker 6: why some farms are saying they're going to have no
Speaker 6: choice but to sell land to pay the tax man.
Speaker 1: Extraordinary stuff, strength and love do everyone is on the land.
Speaker 2: We look forward to celebrating you yet again outtown Sunday night.
Speaker 1: This one from Bendigo in Victoria.
Speaker 2: But wherever you are, we really appreciate everyone watching us,
Speaker 2: especially those people watching us right now on scone is Regional.
Speaker 2: Thank you for the support that you show this program
Speaker 2: each and every night. We'll send nothing but strength and
Speaker 2: love your way, all right. A couple of other things
Speaker 2: worth mentioning, tasy What the hick's going on in taxi?
Speaker 2: They already had an election this year. We know that
Speaker 2: the government effectively is a minority government. It has been
Speaker 2: propped up by people who used to be part of
Speaker 2: the Jackie Lambiy alliance. They couldn't stand working with her,
Speaker 2: so they became independence to prop up the government. But
Speaker 2: guess what, it has already been tested and it was
Speaker 2: this close to the whole thing falling over again and
Speaker 2: a new election being called. It's all in relations to
Speaker 2: poker machines and there's been a long fight for a
Speaker 2: long time. But the Labor Party in Tasmania is nuts
Speaker 2: about and they're obsessed with wanting to ban these things.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter how many elections they lose and how
Speaker 2: many times and how many bits of the state they
Speaker 2: turn around and tell them to bugger off. Note they're
Speaker 2: going to keep going because that's the way they like
Speaker 2: to march on. So because things have not changed, or sorry,
Speaker 2: things have changed. You saw the Labour Party get up
Speaker 2: with the Greens and others to try to force a
Speaker 2: no confidence motion that would of course effectively mean either
Speaker 2: a change of government on the floor of the Parliament,
Speaker 2: but because the Labour Party doesn't have enough numbers, what
Speaker 2: it would actually mean is off to a brand new election.
Speaker 2: I love your Tazzy. You deserve better than the garbage
Speaker 2: that's going on there right now.
Speaker 1: Unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Now to Coeensland, where of course that idiot Stephen Miles
Speaker 2: is now the reality is sinking in that he's going
Speaker 2: to be the opposition leader for the next few years.
Speaker 2: His chance of becoming premier is four years away. And
Speaker 2: by the way, he's still on social media. I noticed
Speaker 2: he was being effectively a tooling down on the Gold
Speaker 2: Coast in the past couple of days, so you know,
Speaker 2: talking to young people about their issues. The faces you
Speaker 2: can see on TV though, a Queensland labor in peace
Speaker 2: who lost their seats. They're all going to get forty
Speaker 2: two thousand dollars each because of course, when they lose
Speaker 2: their job, they get your money, despite the fact that
Speaker 2: when they were in your job they bug it up
Speaker 2: how they spent your.
Speaker 1: Money and that's why you gave them the backside in
Speaker 1: the first place.
Speaker 2: And finally, a good bit of news, I ninety eight
Speaker 2: radio station Woollongong in New South Wales.
Speaker 1: For twenty years.
Speaker 2: They have done this spectacular charity thing which is a
Speaker 2: giant convoy. It's a convoy for the kids and it
Speaker 2: raises lots of money, lots of toys, lots of gifts
Speaker 2: for the kids that struggle in and around there. Can
Speaker 2: I say to Marty, Christian Bella and everyone who listens
Speaker 2: to that show, congratulations because the twentieth andversary version of
Speaker 2: this Illawarra Convoy has now raised two and a half
Speaker 2: million dollars. Congratulations to each and every one of you
Speaker 2: and everyone who helped along the way. Now, as you know,
Speaker 2: on this program, we have supported Trump. There have been
Speaker 2: plenty of times where we get that not everything's amazing,
Speaker 2: but generally speaking we are Trump supporters, certainly of the
Speaker 2: past couple of years, and we're very excited about what
Speaker 2: happened when it came to the election. Hence why the
Speaker 2: Trump dance is more than welcome on this program. In fact,
Speaker 2: Meghan Kelly and I joining a Trump dance from time
Speaker 2: to time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a stiff move, but hers is way more
Speaker 1: impressive than mine.
Speaker 2: For the most obvious of reasons, Well, Not all Australians,
Speaker 2: of course, are happy about Donald Trump, and it is
Speaker 2: my responsibility to tell you the truth, which includes a
Speaker 2: new pole which says quite a few people have some
Speaker 2: different views here the Talbot Mills Research poll. Never heard
Speaker 2: of it, but anyway, let's follow the headline. Conducted in
Speaker 2: the week following the election found forty five percent of
Speaker 2: Australians thought that his return to power would be a disaster.
Speaker 2: Just twenty three percent of people are correct and believe
Speaker 2: that he would be a good president the issues.
Speaker 1: They are in and around.
Speaker 2: Men men aged thirty to forty four believe forty three
Speaker 2: percent of them so the Republican would be a good president,
Speaker 2: which is double the number who believed that his second
Speaker 2: term would be a disaster. One in five women think
Speaker 2: that Trump will be a good president. But this is
Speaker 2: really interesting that group men thirty to forty four. These
Speaker 2: are people who were taught in woke schools. These are
Speaker 2: people who have been told you can't say that, But
Speaker 2: now they know they can say that, and they know
Speaker 2: that they can say and call but yes on much
Speaker 2: of the stuff that they are told is absolutely non negotiable.
Speaker 2: Wonder what will happen at the upcoming federal election one
Speaker 2: of the biggest areas that helps define Australian elections of
Speaker 2: people between the ages of thirty five and fifty five.
Speaker 2: We know that thirty five to fifty five year old
Speaker 2: women moved hard against the Liberal Party and hence the
Speaker 2: teals popped up.
Speaker 1: But are we going to have a.
Speaker 2: Scenario where thirty five to fifty five year old men
Speaker 2: are going to run in exactly the opposite direction, canceling
Speaker 2: out the new activism that's gone its way of the teels.
Speaker 1: Watch this space all right.
Speaker 2: I want to cut it there because I've got great
Speaker 2: things ahead. In fact, right after the break, you're gonna
Speaker 2: love every second of this. I can't say a word,
Speaker 2: but believe me, sit there, enjoy and make sure that
Speaker 2: you're well hydrated because you're going to love the rest
Speaker 2: of the show.
Speaker 1: Something special. Next, Nigel Farage, before we're done, thanks for watching.
Speaker 1: Told you this was special. Man.
Speaker 2: Cave doors are locked because we're going to have some
Speaker 2: fun right now. Joining me around the table is not
Speaker 2: and as Steven Conry, who's just here to help and
Speaker 2: the carryouver Champ brom and Bishop Lovely to see you both.
Speaker 2: So let's begin with this Kevin Rudd has come out
Speaker 2: of Kevin Rudd High to tell us that Kevin Rud
Speaker 2: is now willing to deal with the Trump administration. How
Speaker 2: very kind of him now, of course, because we are
Speaker 2: all loyal subjects of Karen. Here's what the ambassador had
Speaker 2: to say today.
Speaker 7: We live in a world of many challenges, and we
Speaker 7: are clear that the region we want, the interests we have,
Speaker 7: and the values we share require and call for our
Speaker 7: two nations to work together. And that is what we
Speaker 7: will continue to do with President Trump and his incoming administration.
Speaker 7: We here at the Embassy in Washington look forward to
Speaker 7: contributing to that in the future.
Speaker 2: Roman, We here at the embassy, like you know, it's
Speaker 2: just a bunch of us, you know, sitting around in
Speaker 2: this little hut that we put together.
Speaker 1: There's brand new, multi billion dollar building.
Speaker 8: Okay, I have one comment to make, arrogance. Thy name
Speaker 8: is Rudd. Yes, what about the Royal We I mean serious.
Speaker 8: It's not a question of him being prepared to work
Speaker 8: with the president. You've got agree to that stuff. It's
Speaker 8: a question of how he's received by the government for
Speaker 8: whom we are supposed to be putting Australia's best case.
Speaker 2: And look and again those that there is most obsequious
Speaker 2: members of lovers in the media. Right media lovers, I
Speaker 2: should say, turning around and saying you know, well, of course,
Speaker 2: you know he's playing a four D chest that none
Speaker 2: of us can see in the news corp conspiracy of
Speaker 2: trying to push him out so he can rerun a
Speaker 2: royal commission camp. Okay, we don't see it. The point
Speaker 2: is right, he doesn't have to come out and say
Speaker 2: Trump's the greatest, Trump's Trump's amazing, but he does have
Speaker 2: to some degree say, look, some of us have made
Speaker 2: poor judgments in the past about him and his position,
Speaker 2: and that's why we think we're in a position to
Speaker 2: be able to work this sort of garbage of releasing
Speaker 2: a statement that we are now finally ready to deal with. Mate,
Speaker 2: you deal with who the American people elect, not the
Speaker 2: other way around or.
Speaker 9: Espirsonally the leasing a statement, he was speaking to a conference,
Speaker 9: so it was a little bit more formal than just
Speaker 9: him having a chat.
Speaker 1: And hence why it was a royal wi. It wasn't
Speaker 1: just a collective wie.
Speaker 9: It was a royal So I think this was part
Speaker 9: of that process that you're saying he should do so.
Speaker 9: I think this is the beginnings of that. But again
Speaker 9: I go back to the fundamental issue. All sides of
Speaker 9: politics in Australia has said consistently he's done a good job.
Speaker 9: He has pursued and chased the issues of Australia needed
Speaker 9: to pursue. Yes, there's a new leadership. Yes it's going
Speaker 9: to be a bit tougher, there's going to be some
Speaker 9: significant issues differences. Tariffs is the obvious one, and we
Speaker 9: have to get behind him because he's got to succeed
Speaker 9: for the good of the country.
Speaker 2: Okay, but what about the bit where somebody who was
Speaker 2: obviously trying to help didn't really help today when it
Speaker 2: was one of the security advisors to the Biden people,
Speaker 2: I was out about saying that he's operating like a
Speaker 2: foreign minister, which basically means he's outdoing whatever the heck
Speaker 2: he wants to, rather than doing the bidding of a
Speaker 2: foreign ministry, he's behaving as a foreign minister while he's
Speaker 2: in Washington.
Speaker 1: This wasn't very helpful today, was it. Bromwin and I.
Speaker 2: Get it that Penny Wong's currently obsessed with what's happening
Speaker 2: in the Middle East, but he's supposed to be the servant,
Speaker 2: not the master.
Speaker 4: This is the whole problem.
Speaker 8: The job of a diplomat is to be diplomatic. It
Speaker 8: is to put the best case for your country and
Speaker 8: make someone you're putting it to be sympathetic to the
Speaker 8: country you're representing. How that arrogance can met that description
Speaker 8: is beyond my comprehension, he says.
Speaker 4: The team is ready.
Speaker 8: Well, I hope the goodness they are, because the team
Speaker 8: is going to be useful no matter who is the diplomat.
Speaker 2: Well, and I think there'll be some other people to
Speaker 2: be added to the team, perhaps a little in the
Speaker 2: shadows and the flanks, perhaps of the side.
Speaker 1: Of politics that he doesn't like.
Speaker 2: Let's talk though about today the people behind the scenes
Speaker 2: and the Labor Party are saying they're not going to
Speaker 2: fall into the same trap that Harrison Democrats did in
Speaker 2: the American election in the Australian election. Put simply, that
Speaker 2: just means everyone say cost of living as many times
Speaker 2: as you possibly can. However, I'm not sure that people
Speaker 2: are listening, and as even we saw in a place
Speaker 2: like Queensland, where sure, thanks very much, thanks very much,
Speaker 2: thanks very much. All right, Buggy you was the reaction.
Speaker 2: What does this say to you, Bromwin about labor honestly
Speaker 2: starting to push some bricks here that they know that
Speaker 2: they are on some very sticky paper.
Speaker 4: They're stuck.
Speaker 8: Every time they get up and say everything's wonderful, the
Speaker 8: economy's fantastic, you're all doing terribly well.
Speaker 4: You've had wage rises, you've.
Speaker 8: Got cheaper charget, it irritates people beyond belief because they're
Speaker 8: having trouble playing for the groceries. So in a way,
Speaker 8: every time they mentioned cost of living and what we
Speaker 8: have done for you, aren't you lucky? In parentheses, it
Speaker 8: just aggravates people more and more. And all the polls
Speaker 8: show that, and in Australia they far more accurate than
Speaker 8: they own. You understand, Yes, this is important to note
Speaker 8: show that Peter Dutton is much more trusted about being
Speaker 8: able to manage the economy than either the snake Charma
Speaker 8: or Alberta Trots.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 2: But by the way, see when they look everyone see
Speaker 2: have you noticed when they look at each other in
Speaker 2: the eye temperature down right? We're bout having a conversation,
Speaker 2: all right, But Stephen, what's really going on here?
Speaker 9: What's the secret I think no. I think Paul needed
Speaker 9: to say what he said. I think there are lessons
Speaker 9: that need to be learned from what happened in America.
Speaker 9: So I think he was actually not trying to send
Speaker 9: a subliminal message talk about cost of living, because most
Speaker 9: good points, people are hurting and they don't react well
Speaker 9: to a bit of a lecture about how well they're
Speaker 9: all doing. I couldn't agree with more on that, So
Speaker 9: I think Paul was really wanting to say there's whole
Speaker 9: bunch of esoteric issues, called them the woke collection of
Speaker 9: issues that we should really not be talking about. We
Speaker 9: need to be talking about the successes, whether it's in
Speaker 9: age care, whether it's in what we've done in economic relief.
Speaker 9: We've got to be talking about those. If you're going
Speaker 9: to indulge yourself, there's a Paul's basic message, you're going
Speaker 9: to end up like the Democrats. You're going to end
Speaker 9: up in a situation where after the election will be
Speaker 9: saying we didn't want to buy about freak show party
Speaker 9: that the Center's Democrats are now having the debate in
Speaker 9: the US about well.
Speaker 2: Perfect example, right, if the entire business of the day
Speaker 2: of Parliament one day was to guarantee the Nbian wouldn't
Speaker 2: be sold.
Speaker 1: Remember that was the day. And then there's the they know.
Speaker 9: I was very popular. I had people texting me saying,
Speaker 9: never have the liberals spoken so well.
Speaker 1: Press relation. I've got the press.
Speaker 9: Quoting it a lot.
Speaker 8: Apparently the problem you wanted to sell it but it's
Speaker 8: not salable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well was it?
Speaker 2: So when we talk about priorities, right, that was of
Speaker 2: course a get out of upgrade albut right.
Speaker 1: Or quickly let's talk about that for the day.
Speaker 2: Then of course there's been this misinformation stuff, which is
Speaker 2: the sense of the internet stuf that's gone all right,
Speaker 2: Clearly there is no path in the Senate unless there's
Speaker 2: about to be a giant sort of you know, you know,
Speaker 2: Scooby Doo style reveal of somebody who said no voting yes,
Speaker 2: which means take the vote, kill it off, get rid
Speaker 2: of it now. Almost likely they're probably going to turn
Speaker 2: around and say we know we can't win, so we'll
Speaker 2: yank it and then keep it alive as an election issue.
Speaker 2: If they do that, then that is everywhere other than
Speaker 2: where Paul.
Speaker 1: Erickson was saying labour needs to be today.
Speaker 8: Well, I felt sorry for mister Erickson. He had to
Speaker 8: say something to this party.
Speaker 1: Room and well the Prime Minister wasn't there, believing at.
Speaker 8: This stage of the game have being said in party
Speaker 8: rooms for many, many years.
Speaker 4: There will be very nervous people sitting in there.
Speaker 8: There will be people who are feeling, particularly marginal seattholders,
Speaker 8: who are saying, one of these people done to me,
Speaker 8: Why am I going to approbate the price? So he
Speaker 8: had to try and shore them up. But honestly and
Speaker 8: truly what they are doing is exactly what the Democrats did.
Speaker 8: We're going to bash up on the leader, call him names, yes,
Speaker 8: say he's a horrible person, and then we're going to
Speaker 8: tell you what a great job we've done.
Speaker 2: So that's a really interesting point. So we see that
Speaker 2: labor again. There's the whole We've got an ad and
Speaker 2: we're going to run it soon, put it in the
Speaker 2: media and then the media runs it for free. Right,
Speaker 2: pretty simple trick. And it's all about under Peter Dutton,
Speaker 2: you'll be worse off. What do you think of that
Speaker 2: as a tactic, because under elbow they are worse off.
Speaker 9: Right, there's simple maths. If Dutton wants to make some
Speaker 9: serious shows like he's already dumped the tax cuts. That
Speaker 9: was going to be a miller around his deck. He's
Speaker 9: got to put forward and spending cuts. Okay, and that's
Speaker 9: where it gets to. You need to reinforce what he
Speaker 9: did to say that what he's going to propose is
Speaker 9: going to make you worse than you currently are. So
Speaker 9: the two bits need to come together. So you have
Speaker 9: to start one part of the discussion.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 9: I think if they just try and personalize it to oh,
Speaker 9: he's just a bad person, I think they'll miss the
Speaker 9: target like Kamala missed the target.
Speaker 1: Yes on you know Trump.
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, I think it needs to be about real
Speaker 9: substantive actions that Dutton's taken and he's going to do
Speaker 9: these to you again that at least has a degree
Speaker 9: that might get through if you talk about it for
Speaker 9: six months.
Speaker 2: But also right so you know, after spinning our head
Speaker 2: and putting our head into the American election for as
Speaker 2: long as we have right, they have these whole teams
Speaker 2: whose job it is is to respond to what the
Speaker 2: other team did that day, right, like they do it
Speaker 2: quickly on Twitter. They come back with a meme, here's
Speaker 2: your ad, here's really fast. The Lips have had no
Speaker 2: response publicly to these stories that have been building for
Speaker 2: a couple of days. Now, again, American politics is different
Speaker 2: than Australian. But does the Liberal Party have to wake
Speaker 2: up to the twenty four of it all, which is
Speaker 2: the elections are actually one and lost way before the
Speaker 2: campaign is even close.
Speaker 8: Well, I think they know that, but I still stick
Speaker 8: to my prognostication that it will be an early election.
Speaker 8: I mean, all the decks are being cleared, All the
Speaker 8: outgoing MPs have been told to do the valedictories these
Speaker 8: two weeks.
Speaker 4: All the signs are there that they're ready to go.
Speaker 1: And those two weeks are what the first two weeks?
Speaker 4: This week, there's a lot have been done this week. Wow,
Speaker 4: the rest will finish next week.
Speaker 8: Okay, so all the decks are cleared, so they're not
Speaker 8: coming back next year.
Speaker 4: There's not going to be a second budget.
Speaker 8: Why would when you've got a treasure who's been boasting,
Speaker 8: he's had two services, why is he going to come
Speaker 8: back for a third one? Say oh, well, here's the deficit?
Speaker 2: So can I ask the mechanical question? Okay, if two
Speaker 2: weeks everyone says they're goodbyes there, thanks very much. The
Speaker 2: retiring people right, obviously not planning to come back to work.
Speaker 2: The first sittings would be in February if they were
Speaker 2: planning to come back to work.
Speaker 1: So if they're talking about potentially a May election, why
Speaker 1: would Parliament not be back in February.
Speaker 4: It doesn't have to be right well to do it?
Speaker 2: Say well, which means you call the election around Australia
Speaker 2: Day for some time in February, right, or what if
Speaker 2: the thirty three after? Okay, cool, good, good to know there. Now,
Speaker 2: just by the way, just about American politics for a second, Stephen,
Speaker 2: your team spent a billion dollars and ended up twenty
Speaker 2: million dollars in the hole. They spent two and a
Speaker 2: half million dollars on Oprah.
Speaker 9: Winfrey has denied that, and Beyonce has denied that.
Speaker 2: Well about personal payment, but whether their company's harper.
Speaker 1: But you get the point, right.
Speaker 2: Look, people win and lose elections for a whole bunch
Speaker 2: of reasons. And I'm sorry, it's late enough at night,
Speaker 2: I'm going to say it.
Speaker 1: How do you piece away a billion dollars? That's a
Speaker 1: very good question. Surely you could spend three quarters of
Speaker 1: a bill and loose.
Speaker 9: They got themselves convinced that on a couple of issues like,
Speaker 9: as an example, abortion, that there were all these Republican
Speaker 9: women who were going to vote against Trump, still for
Speaker 9: the rest of the Republicans, but against Trump. And what
Speaker 9: the referendu In four of the swing states they voted.
Speaker 9: They voted four abortion rights to be enshrined in the legislation,
Speaker 9: and yet they still voted for Trump. Yeah, this tactic
Speaker 9: was an epic fail and there was a lot of
Speaker 9: no effort to try and farm a vote that didn't exist.
Speaker 9: And that's how you waste a lot of money, Okay, and.
Speaker 2: In a machine, right, presumably, if you've got two hundred
Speaker 2: million dollars, you've got access to the best data thing
Speaker 2: in the world to have a look around this corner,
Speaker 2: under this and lift this and all of that.
Speaker 1: Right, But obviously the data was wrong. Right now.
Speaker 2: We know they were spinning and basing and all the
Speaker 2: rest of it. But you don't keep spending. I mean,
Speaker 2: when you know you're losing, you know you're losing, all right,
Speaker 2: So how do you change the data when the data
Speaker 2: is wrong? I mean, famously there was sort of the
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen labour thinks their data was headed this way, and.
Speaker 1: Then they changed some things for twenty two. What do
Speaker 1: you do because presumably.
Speaker 9: These are the trick in the US system though, is
Speaker 9: because it's sometimes about trying to encourage the other party's
Speaker 9: voters not to turn out. Right, So the reason the
Speaker 9: tactics are a bit different. Why you know yourself and
Speaker 9: others have said, you can't just follow the Trump playbook
Speaker 9: because everyone has to come to vote. So you do
Speaker 9: two things in an election campaign in the US that
Speaker 9: you don't do in Australia. You've got to encourage your
Speaker 9: voters to come out, and you've got to discourage your
Speaker 9: opponent's voter. So you've got to keep running the negative
Speaker 9: ads try and dissuade them to come. In Australia, that
Speaker 9: can't work. By definition, people turn.
Speaker 2: Up and then and then inside a political party, when
Speaker 2: you when you're getting the insights wrong, like when your
Speaker 2: instruments are off, do you change the instruments?
Speaker 1: Do you jump into the new plane? Do you give
Speaker 1: the people who got it wrong a second chance?
Speaker 8: Well, that's that's if you knew the answer to that question,
Speaker 8: you'd never lose.
Speaker 1: Its.
Speaker 2: Both lost a lot of it.
Speaker 1: I've never lost one, never lost one. You opened it up.
Speaker 1: You opened it up.
Speaker 4: Was successful in all the elections. I wrote it.
Speaker 1: There we go excellent. All right, thank you guys to
Speaker 1: appreciate it. A very quick shout out.
Speaker 9: A couple of weeks back, I was traveling overseas on
Speaker 9: a Thursday morning and one of the stewarts coming he
Speaker 9: hit his name. He didn't want me to know his name.
Speaker 9: I just wanted to say to you how fantastic and
Speaker 9: how much he enjoys watching the three of us, and
Speaker 9: so I wanted to give him a shout out him
Speaker 9: and they didn't want me to know his name. And
Speaker 9: he did ask me to, you know, not as a primar,
Speaker 9: but just as a reminder that I'd do this. But
Speaker 9: I'll give you a corners cap to leave in the
Speaker 9: man cave. He wanted it in the man cave. And
Speaker 9: I apologize to him. I forgot it coming to Sydney.
Speaker 9: But he was a great guy. Had a lot of
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Speaker 9: watching this part of the show.
Speaker 1: I Love You it was.
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Speaker 2: Well, our mystery man when he can't turn up, that's
Speaker 2: going to be our shout out to you. Thanks very much,
Speaker 2: appreciate it, guys, look forward to seeing you again next week.
Speaker 2: Niger for us standing by in the UK. So much
Speaker 2: to talk about with him, so joy us next.
Speaker 1: Niger.
Speaker 2: Faras joins us now from the UK where he does
Speaker 2: it and every week you can see a show on
Speaker 2: GBN News.
Speaker 1: Great man, love you to see you.
Speaker 2: And what about the news out of Wales where reform
Speaker 2: is absolutely braining it in what might be local elections there.
Speaker 10: Yeah, we have the Welsh Parliament elections coming up not
Speaker 10: till twenty twenty six, but no. Really interesting in Wales's
Speaker 10: reform now is the opposition to labor. This one pole
Speaker 10: even puts US ahead of labor. And remember that the
Speaker 10: values of South Wales, that's the home of the Labor Party.
Speaker 10: That's kind of where the whole thing started. So yeah,
Speaker 10: we're seeing very big change. And I think I think
Speaker 10: Trump's victory in America is making people look at things
Speaker 10: and thinking, wow, maybe we can do different too. So yeah,
Speaker 10: quite exciting times for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I often think about this and I have obviously in
Speaker 2: the past couple of weeks, right, which is that you
Speaker 2: don't want to overinterpret a result. You don't want to
Speaker 2: think that you know, one and me again. No win
Speaker 2: is forever, no revolution, you know, it's just there's there's
Speaker 2: the back and forth.
Speaker 1: Of all of it.
Speaker 2: Right, However, there has been this really interesting feeling in
Speaker 2: the past couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: It does feel like.
Speaker 2: The doors have been blown off for people to say,
Speaker 2: you know what, I can say it, I can do it,
Speaker 2: and I can do it the way I want to
Speaker 2: do it, which means I don't want to go the
Speaker 2: old ways of doing things. And it's fascinating watching all
Speaker 2: the system in place still fighting, but they're fighting a
Speaker 2: completely different sport against Trump, and I think the same
Speaker 2: applies to you and reform.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, you know, they don't change the establishment,
Speaker 10: don't change their tactics, they don't change their ground game.
Speaker 10: And what they're not recognizing is the silent majority are
Speaker 10: beginning to speak. The silent majority are less scared to
Speaker 10: say what they feel, and the silent majority recognize that
Speaker 10: the way we're going in every Western country is in
Speaker 10: a decline as the East gets stronger. So no, no,
Speaker 10: I'm I genuinely think that we are at between now
Speaker 10: and say, the next couple of years, a real pivotal
Speaker 10: point in Western politics. And you're seeing it in France,
Speaker 10: you're seeing it in Germany, you've seen it already in Italy.
Speaker 10: There's a big, big change coming, huge cultural change.
Speaker 2: Now, forgive me, we didn't keep you up on this subject,
Speaker 2: but I think it's one that you'd be able to
Speaker 2: easily be across. Which is tonight, I had a conversation
Speaker 2: that there's a report that's come out that says that
Speaker 2: eight year olds in Australia is when you start to
Speaker 2: see science of potential mental illness an eight year old, Right,
Speaker 2: you'd have similar things in the UK. I don't know
Speaker 2: exactly where the number would be, but did god, how
Speaker 2: did we get here that the Western world, with all
Speaker 2: of its you know, peace and prosperity, results in mental
Speaker 2: illness in our kids. And it's not their fault because
Speaker 2: you know, but how the heck did this happen?
Speaker 10: Well, one thing I would say is that lockdown did
Speaker 10: prove to be disastrous, genuinely for the mental health of
Speaker 10: young people. They weren't socialized, they weren't normalized. We must
Speaker 10: look down on what back on that period, in particular
Speaker 10: what states like Victoria did, and we should hang our
Speaker 10: heads in shame. That aside, we are over diagnosing mental illness.
Speaker 10: We are taking normal trauma that we all go through
Speaker 10: in our life when we feel upset, we feel down,
Speaker 10: we're bereaved, whatever it may be, and we're overinterpreting that
Speaker 10: as being mental illness. And we are from young ages
Speaker 10: right the way through drugging the population with drugs to
Speaker 10: lift us up. We're drugs to put us down. The
Speaker 10: whole thing is a disaster and actually a little bit
Speaker 10: of old fashioned put yourself together, just get on with it.
Speaker 10: That's the way it is. Take the rough knocks, move on.
Speaker 10: We need more of that attitude. And I have to say,
Speaker 10: you know, I sound like my grandparents when I was
Speaker 10: eight years old, and do you know what they were right?
Speaker 1: Well, this is it.
Speaker 2: I mean, they of course dealt with the existential threats
Speaker 2: of world wars and depressions and all the rest of it.
Speaker 2: I think also the fact that the diet of fear
Speaker 2: that's in kids about climate change and cultural stuff and
Speaker 2: all the rest of it doesn't help either. Last one,
Speaker 2: he talked about Jeremy Clarkson and other farmers.
Speaker 1: That took to the streets.
Speaker 2: What is the tax situation that is forcing them onto
Speaker 2: the streets.
Speaker 10: So farming in this country, Yeah, of course we have
Speaker 10: the great landed estates, you know, the downt and abbey
Speaker 10: type of states. But most farms in Britain are quite small,
Speaker 10: and many of them have stayed in families for generations,
Speaker 10: in some cases even hundreds of years. One of the
Speaker 10: reasons the whole world comes to England, comes to the
Speaker 10: UK and says what a beautiful country it is is
Speaker 10: because the way in which those families have stewarded that land. Now,
Speaker 10: land prices have gone through the roof recently. So a
Speaker 10: farmer has a farm on paper it's worth a fortune,
Speaker 10: but his or her income is still very, very small.
Speaker 10: And what the Government of posing is to introduce inheritance
Speaker 10: tax on family farms at twenty percent over a fairly
Speaker 10: small level. And that would mean that farms would need
Speaker 10: to sell off chunks of their land, which ironically would
Speaker 10: get bought by overseas companies who pay hardly any tax
Speaker 10: here anyway. And frankly, it could be the death knell
Speaker 10: of the family farm in our country, and it would
Speaker 10: break up our rural communities. And it's almost as if
Speaker 10: the urban elites who have no understanding of farming, no
Speaker 10: understanding of country folk. It's almost as if.
Speaker 1: They despise them.
Speaker 10: You know, they want them to put up solar panels,
Speaker 10: they want them to do rewilding. They've forgotten that farming
Speaker 10: is about making food. A whole host of net zero
Speaker 10: regulations and now this so our really lovely rural communities
Speaker 10: feel in battled, and they came to London to protest yesterday.
Speaker 1: I was there with them.
Speaker 10: Amazing, not a single sweet wrapper left behind. Protesters shaking
Speaker 10: police officers hands, saying thank you for looking after us.
Speaker 10: Just just the loveliest, nicest people you could ever meet,
Speaker 10: under assault from an urban intellectual labor party.
Speaker 2: Strength to their arms, strength of yours for talking about
Speaker 2: them as well. See you next week, Thank you, Nigel.
Speaker 2: Let's our show for the night, making Kill Eat.
Speaker 1: Tomorrow you're on Poor Mariray Life