WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 20 November

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<v Speaker 1>From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray Live.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, thank you very much for watching. What a Wednesday

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<v Speaker 2>Night I have for you. Let's get straight into it here.

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<v Speaker 2>The past couple of nights we've been talking about a

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<v Speaker 2>report that says three million Australians are right on the

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<v Speaker 2>line of homelessness, in part because of how few rental

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<v Speaker 2>properties there are and the ones that people do have,

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<v Speaker 2>well they're going up in price. It means that three

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<v Speaker 2>million people are right on the line. We also here

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<v Speaker 2>today that the number of businesses that are simply closing down,

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<v Speaker 2>that are either giving up or going bust is basically

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<v Speaker 2>the same today as it was during the absolute worst

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<v Speaker 2>of Lockdown's what the best.

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<v Speaker 1>Part of three and four years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, today figures that have been released by credit

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<v Speaker 2>data monitoring company credit Watch on Wednesday show that one

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty businesses across the country is failing as consumer

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<v Speaker 2>spending drives up and high costs hit the bottom line.

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<v Speaker 2>One in twenty businesses failing. The record number of businesses

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<v Speaker 2>that have collapsed is basically the same as the worst

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<v Speaker 2>of the pandemic, and three million people are right on

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<v Speaker 2>the homeless line. But what's our government doing with your money.

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Bowen is overseas. He's kissing the ring of China,

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<v Speaker 2>as is Anthony Abernezi the Australian government, meaning you are

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<v Speaker 2>going to spend an extra fifty million dollars giving money

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<v Speaker 2>to countries like China to deal with climate change. The

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<v Speaker 2>Australian government has committed an extra fifty million dollars towards

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<v Speaker 2>a global fund to deal with the loss and damage

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<v Speaker 2>courts by climate change. Now remember, China wants one point

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<v Speaker 2>eighty for trillion dollars to go from countries like ours,

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<v Speaker 2>the countries like theirs, because they are developing. Now there

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<v Speaker 2>are serious questions in the third World, the Global South,

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<v Speaker 2>the developing hemispheres. But the idea that China deserves any

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<v Speaker 2>of our taxpayers money when it, of course, is where

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<v Speaker 2>most of the solar panels get made. It is where

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<v Speaker 2>slave labor is making them as we speak. It is

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<v Speaker 2>threatening global order and stability, It is inventing islands, and

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<v Speaker 2>it has a space station. They can shove it a

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<v Speaker 2>bit more from Cris bow Casanover says, this builds on

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<v Speaker 2>our foundation one hundred million dollars and now we're up

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<v Speaker 2>to one hundred and fifty million dollars that we are

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<v Speaker 2>giving to other countries at the same time when one

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty Australian businesses are failing and three million people

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<v Speaker 2>are right on the line when it comes to homelessness.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a disgrace. Now for those who believe.

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<v Speaker 2>That Australia is a rich and prosperous country must do

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<v Speaker 2>its bit for the rest of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand the point of foreign aid.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand the need for foreign aid. But when this

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<v Speaker 2>government is standing by and borrowing money, largely from China,

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<v Speaker 2>to give taxpayers money to countries like China to deal

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<v Speaker 2>with climate change is a disgrace. I do not understand

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<v Speaker 2>how this government says that any dollar that is spent

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<v Speaker 2>helping out people with cost of living will be there

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<v Speaker 2>will be inflationary, therefore they can't spend it. But they

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<v Speaker 2>can borrow billions of dollars for offshore projects. They can

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<v Speaker 2>borrow billions of dollars for off budget priorities. This is

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<v Speaker 2>a game and they are playing us for fools. Now again,

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<v Speaker 2>do I expect that every person who is in financial

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<v Speaker 2>stress is about to receive a one million dollar check

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<v Speaker 2>from their fellow taxpayer. No, but the working poor in

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<v Speaker 2>this country, who supposedly are represented by this government, this

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<v Speaker 2>labor party, are working harder and getting poorer. Three million

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<v Speaker 2>people are right now on the line when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to homelessness. One in twenty businesses currently failing. The number

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<v Speaker 2>of businesses that are going bust is right at the

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<v Speaker 2>same level as the height of the pandemic. Yet these

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<v Speaker 2>people have the hid to turn around and say everything's

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<v Speaker 2>fine with the economy. We're broken in the back of inflation.

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<v Speaker 2>Their mates in the media turn around and say mission accomplished,

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<v Speaker 2>Mission accomplished. How can a country like ours be in

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<v Speaker 2>a place like this, And rather than spending that fifty

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<v Speaker 2>million dollars on food bank to feed these people, they

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<v Speaker 2>spend it to look good on the international scene. This

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<v Speaker 2>federal government, who is of course in charge of a

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<v Speaker 2>country that is responsible for one percent of the world's problem,

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<v Speaker 2>will in part compensate a country that is thirty three

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<v Speaker 2>percent of the worldld's problem, while by mandate, by law,

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<v Speaker 2>forcing us into technologies that are built by China with

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<v Speaker 2>slave labor that will be utterly useless in twenty years time,

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<v Speaker 2>they'll be in landfill. This is madness now for much

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<v Speaker 2>of the political establishment. They will say, well, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>that's just Sky News, that's just Paul going on about

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<v Speaker 2>what it normally does.

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<v Speaker 1>Normal people can see this. It is about priorities.

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<v Speaker 2>When the government spends more money on its own advertising

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<v Speaker 2>to pump its own tires about two little too late

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<v Speaker 2>tax cuts than it spends on the organizations that are

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<v Speaker 2>feeding the poor, the working poor that are growing by

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<v Speaker 2>the day, then people know the priorities are wrong in

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<v Speaker 2>this country.

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<v Speaker 1>Again.

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<v Speaker 2>They can find money down the back of the couch

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<v Speaker 2>to make themselves look good when they go overseas. They

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<v Speaker 2>can find down the back of the couch for brand

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<v Speaker 2>new planes to fly themselves overseas. They expect that companies

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<v Speaker 2>give them upgrades to the front of the plane even

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<v Speaker 2>when they go on holidays.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet they pretend to be the champions of the working poor.

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<v Speaker 1>They are not. They have contempt.

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<v Speaker 2>The only attitude that they have to people who are

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<v Speaker 2>the working poor or are on things like permanent pensions

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<v Speaker 2>is that you will just vote labor anyway, you'll vote

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<v Speaker 2>green anyway. There's no day you will ever walk away

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<v Speaker 2>from them.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let's make this very clear.

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<v Speaker 2>There is an opportunity for anyone else in the political

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<v Speaker 2>specter from Peter Dutton to Pauline Hansen to say that

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<v Speaker 2>one of their priorities is to actually deal with helping

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<v Speaker 2>the people who are right on the line. When we

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<v Speaker 2>have a country where not three million people are this

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<v Speaker 2>close to homelessness, or one in twenty businesses are smashing

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<v Speaker 2>against the wall, then we've got money to start doling out.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll tell you what, of the developed countries, the

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<v Speaker 2>last one who deserves a dollar of ours is China.

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<v Speaker 2>Which brings me to some of the fall out and

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<v Speaker 2>the reaction to that excellent documentary. Thank you to everyone

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<v Speaker 2>who gave incredible feedback, and again congratulations to Chris Yellman

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<v Speaker 2>and his team for putting together that.

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<v Speaker 1>Real cost of net zero.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we have a little clearer example of just how

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<v Speaker 2>big the renewable solution is to the problem quote unquote,

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<v Speaker 2>that is, moving from one energy system that works to

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<v Speaker 2>the one that makes them feel good when they go

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<v Speaker 2>around the world on the private jets, the front of

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<v Speaker 2>the planes, or of course to international conferences that they

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<v Speaker 2>hope to bring here. Let's do a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a rough sum here. One of the great things about

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<v Speaker 2>that documentary last night was Chris explaining just how much

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<v Speaker 2>renewable energy would need to be built in order to

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<v Speaker 2>match the current grid, let alone how many solar panels

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<v Speaker 2>and win you would need to build in order to

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<v Speaker 2>have a grid that is even bigger than the current

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<v Speaker 2>one because everything is connected to electricity, cars, cooking, you

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<v Speaker 2>name it. Right today, the Victorian government, who in part

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<v Speaker 2>one the last state election on the hope to set

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<v Speaker 2>up a state government owned energy company, has now decided

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<v Speaker 2>that holess Bolus on its own it will pay for

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<v Speaker 2>a solar farm in and around Horsham.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the good thing is here.

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<v Speaker 2>We can start to do some sums about how much

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<v Speaker 2>it actually costs to do the bow and dream about

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<v Speaker 2>fifty thousand homes will end up being powered as a

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<v Speaker 2>result of this renewable energy park in Horsham. Here is

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<v Speaker 2>the Victorian Premier patting yourself on the back for the

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<v Speaker 2>decision she is making.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to see a massive solar farm and battery

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<v Speaker 3>story project.

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<v Speaker 4>This is with partnering with ox two.

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<v Speaker 3>This has seen a three hundred and seventy million dollar

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<v Speaker 3>investment being made through the SEC the horseh and renewable

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<v Speaker 3>energy park on this site. It's going to see the

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<v Speaker 3>project's going to include one hundred and nineteen megawatts solar

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<v Speaker 3>farm being built right here on this site, and one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred megawat two hour battery that's also going to be constructed.

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<v Speaker 1>Two hour battery. So the sun does not shine for eight, ten, twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>Hours, but don't worry, there's a battery that's full of

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<v Speaker 2>the energy that comes out of the solar panels for

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<v Speaker 2>two hours. No one says, okay, Premier, Premier, preer. I

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<v Speaker 2>understand the point. I understand what you're doing here, But

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<v Speaker 2>do you not agree that while you say that this

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<v Speaker 2>is going to power fifty thousand homes, you've actually just

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<v Speaker 2>admitted that at night, the power runs out after two hours. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, this is the whole point. It's not just

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<v Speaker 2>the cost of the wind farm. It's not just the

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<v Speaker 2>cost of the solar, it's the cost of the storage.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the cost of the power line. But let's work

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<v Speaker 2>off the numbers that they gave us here today. So

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<v Speaker 2>the solar panel system is going to cost about three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and seventy million dollars. I think we've got a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of pictures of what this thing's going to look like.

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<v Speaker 2>Seventy fifty one thousand homes to be precise. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 2>fifty one thousand homes and the solar panels that will

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<v Speaker 2>help power those homes will cost three hundred and seventy

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<v Speaker 2>million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, let's extend this.

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<v Speaker 2>There are two million, eight hundred and ten thousand, seven

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and seventy five homes in Victoria. Based off the

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<v Speaker 2>three hundred and seventy million dollars for fifty one thousand,

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<v Speaker 2>that would equal twenty point three billion dollars. Twenty point

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<v Speaker 2>three billion dollars would be how much money would be

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<v Speaker 2>needed in that new investment, and that, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>is to have a battery that will last for two hours.

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<v Speaker 2>There are eleven million homes across the country. That would

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<v Speaker 2>be seventy nine point eight billion dollars. The documentary was

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<v Speaker 2>fascinating for so many levels, but most importantly, this is

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<v Speaker 2>not a postage stamp in Europe. This is not a

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<v Speaker 2>country that can throw an extension cord somewhere else. The

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<v Speaker 2>idea that this is the solution. Oh, but it's the

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<v Speaker 2>cheapest form of energy available, Not at seventy nine billion dollars,

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<v Speaker 2>not at three hundred and seventy five million dollars. For

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<v Speaker 2>fifty one thousand homes to be connected to a battery

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<v Speaker 2>that will last for just two hours once the sun

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<v Speaker 2>goes down.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, but of.

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<v Speaker 2>Course I'm just a knuckle drager. Now, normally I don't

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<v Speaker 2>do the international thing too early in the show, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's certainly lots of other conversations about the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>the world. However, we have to note something, which is

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<v Speaker 2>that the war in Ukraine is starting to move to

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<v Speaker 2>a new level, and a new level which could result

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<v Speaker 2>in the potentials of the beginning of the closest thing

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<v Speaker 2>to a world war since, of course, the nineteen forties.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we know that Russia invaded Ukraine. Ukraine has a

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<v Speaker 2>right to defend itself. They are doing so with the

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<v Speaker 2>support of the Western world, and principally with the help

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<v Speaker 2>of the United States. But a decision was made by

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden after the election that guaranteed that his vice

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<v Speaker 2>president would not take over from him in the lamest duck.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of a lame duck presidency, he has announced that

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<v Speaker 2>United States missiles can be used by Ukraine. And guess

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<v Speaker 2>what they have been. These missiles are not being fired

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<v Speaker 2>in Ukraine by Ukraine to hit the Russians that are

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<v Speaker 2>in Ukraine, these are now being fired into Russia. The

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<v Speaker 2>response from Putin is to say that this is a

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<v Speaker 2>new level of attack and potentially a nick might be

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<v Speaker 2>the option. Of course, if that's the case. Despite the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that Ukraine is of course not part of NATO,

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<v Speaker 2>every country around it, with the exception of Russia, is

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<v Speaker 2>part of NATO, one hit on a NATO country equals

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<v Speaker 2>all in. Now again, as frightening as all of this

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<v Speaker 2>scenario is, and I hope that it is just another

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<v Speaker 2>bit of Russian bluster and nothing comes of it. And

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<v Speaker 2>I am not entering into the how much and the

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<v Speaker 2>what and all the rest of it about how Ukraine

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<v Speaker 2>is going to defend itself, But could somebody please explain

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<v Speaker 2>to me who the hell is in charge of the response,

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<v Speaker 2>Who is making sure that we do not get as

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<v Speaker 2>close to a world war as we were in the

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<v Speaker 2>nine en forties. Literally, as we speak, Joe Biden is

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<v Speaker 2>coming back from the G twenty, where he couldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>bothered turning up the photo ops. They didn't even wait

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<v Speaker 2>for him, and of course, famously after he finished his speech,

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<v Speaker 2>he just wandered off into the jungle.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, of course you know that he's following a path

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<v Speaker 1>and ends up back in a hotel. But that's the image.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the image of the leader of the free world

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<v Speaker 2>at a time when Russia is saying, because of the

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<v Speaker 2>decisions of that bloke, there's a chance nukes might be involved. Meantime,

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<v Speaker 2>the Vice President, let's imagine Joe's out to lunch, the

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<v Speaker 2>Vice president, yes, licking her wounds after an election that

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<v Speaker 2>her people and her believed was going to go her way.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, she's not in Washington. She's nowhere near the situation room.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, she's buggered off to Hawaii.

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<v Speaker 2>She's on holidays, and she can have all the holidays

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<v Speaker 2>that she wants on January twenty, when she hands in

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<v Speaker 2>her gun and she hands in her badge. But till

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<v Speaker 2>then you've got effectively a gone fishing sign which has

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<v Speaker 2>been put out in the front of the White House.

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<v Speaker 2>This is extraordinary a decision to escalate that Biden refuses

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<v Speaker 2>to answer. He's an example of press trying to ask

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<v Speaker 2>him about why did you take this to the next

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<v Speaker 2>level when your time is running out?

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<v Speaker 1>This is frightening. It truly is.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank goodness Trump's coming, and thank good Trump is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to take over on the twentieth, but

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<v Speaker 2>there's only one president, one government at a time. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk about this with nine l Farage, our special guests,

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<v Speaker 2>and I make sure we have proper.

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<v Speaker 1>Time for it tonight here on Paul Murray Live.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I always get a bit emotional when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to subjects about kids. Why because mine are little

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<v Speaker 2>and like you, I'd die for them a thousand times over. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>as we know, our politicians right now are having conversations

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<v Speaker 2>where it's about the social media use of kids, it's

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<v Speaker 2>about a censoring the Internet bill. Thankfully, the censoring the

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<v Speaker 2>Internet bill won't happen, and jeez, pay attention to all

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<v Speaker 2>the people that are trying to take a victory lap

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<v Speaker 2>on a story that they have barely talked about for

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<v Speaker 2>the past two years some of the anyway, Thankfully, that's

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<v Speaker 2>not going to be an issue here. That bill's just

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<v Speaker 2>going to die and let's see whether that vote happens.

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<v Speaker 2>We need the vote to happen otherwise that it was

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<v Speaker 2>pull it and that hangs like a sword over everyone

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<v Speaker 2>for another twelve months, including running.

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<v Speaker 1>Into the election.

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<v Speaker 2>But we also learned today again another example of how

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<v Speaker 2>kids are not okay now I get it. They're too

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<v Speaker 2>soft because of participation trophies. And by the way, their

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<v Speaker 2>parents got participation trophies as well. They didn't just get

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<v Speaker 2>invented in the past two years. There's been around for

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<v Speaker 2>too long, the best part of twenty years. Yes, they're

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<v Speaker 2>too soft because of a lack of resilience for a

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<v Speaker 2>whole collection of reasons that exist. But it's not their

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<v Speaker 2>fault when little kids are struggling. What about this for

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<v Speaker 2>a story today? Parents, grandparents, aren't his uncle's friends. Eight

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<v Speaker 2>year old's well, sorry, eight years old, I should say,

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<v Speaker 2>is now the age that children start experiencing.

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<v Speaker 1>Serious mental health declinent? What is wrong with this joint?

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<v Speaker 2>Three million people, this close to the homelessness line, one

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty businesses and now eight years old. Is when

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<v Speaker 2>a country like Australia has a scenario where kids are

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<v Speaker 2>starting to have serious mental health the client and a

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<v Speaker 2>shocking report revealing that the danger age has now dropped

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<v Speaker 2>from ten years old to eight years old.

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<v Speaker 1>Wake up, Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>The kids are not all right and it ain't their

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<v Speaker 2>fault and we've got to do our bit to try

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<v Speaker 2>to save them. The Smiling Mind survey of almost three

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<v Speaker 2>thousand children aged has this between four and twelve and

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<v Speaker 2>their parents. Highlights how the rising levels of stress and

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<v Speaker 2>anxiety and parents is wearing off on their offspring. Cost

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<v Speaker 2>of living and parental responsibilities are weighing heavily on mums

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<v Speaker 2>and deaths.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's the deal.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you make me a promise tonight? If you are

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<v Speaker 2>the mum, the dad, the nana, the poppa, the auntie,

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<v Speaker 2>the cousin, or just the person who has little people

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<v Speaker 2>in your life, can you please look them in the

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<v Speaker 2>eye and tell them that you're always here for them.

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<v Speaker 2>They will never get in trouble for talking about how

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<v Speaker 2>they feel and we will work through this together. If

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<v Speaker 2>they don't want to talk to us, then can you

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<v Speaker 2>please write this telephone number down and can you put

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<v Speaker 2>it on your fridge at home. If you've got kids

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<v Speaker 2>or older kids or grandkids, the Kids Helpline one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>double five one hundred free call anywhere in the country

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred double five one eight hundred, or if the

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<v Speaker 2>kids would prefer to text someone or do it online,

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<v Speaker 2>go to kids Helpline dot com dot au. Write that down,

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<v Speaker 2>put it on the fridge. How the heck did we

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<v Speaker 2>get to the spot we're an eight year old is

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<v Speaker 2>the new line when people start to have mental health

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<v Speaker 2>issues in this country.

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<v Speaker 1>Dear goodness, we.

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<v Speaker 2>Are not a place that is in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>a war. We are not having a famine. There is

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<v Speaker 2>not many of the social issues that exist.

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<v Speaker 1>Around the world. But this is the facts.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, if you're just somebody who says, oh, that's

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<v Speaker 2>just teaspoonful of cement and hard enough. Okay, great, cool,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not going to work. All right, it's big, it's complicated.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't solve it. We can't solve it quickly. But

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<v Speaker 2>if they're in trouble, for goodness sake, let's give them

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<v Speaker 2>the tools to be able to dig their way out.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's give them their helping hand to pull them out,

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<v Speaker 2>or let's make sure that we throw the ladders of

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<v Speaker 2>support their way. We love every single and if you

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<v Speaker 2>are a young person watching this, either on the Telly

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<v Speaker 2>or on a video later, we love you and we

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<v Speaker 2>need you. And as tough as it can be, and

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<v Speaker 2>I know it can be tough, believe me, tomorrow is better.

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<v Speaker 1>Believe me, tomorrow is better.

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<v Speaker 2>The Kids Helpline write the number down one hundred, double five,

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred Kids Help line dot com dot A you

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<v Speaker 2>strength and love to any and everyone who struggles in

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<v Speaker 2>this country. I talk about it not because it's politically advantageous,

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<v Speaker 2>but because it is the human thing to do, and

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<v Speaker 2>we are that before we are anything else. A few

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<v Speaker 2>other things worth mentioning now. Farmers, of course, of recent years,

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<v Speaker 2>have shown themselves to be the real line in the

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<v Speaker 2>sand when it comes to what people are willing to cop.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember the brave Canadian farmers and truckers and their fight

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<v Speaker 2>again since the indeacy of COVID lockdowns, and then of

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<v Speaker 2>course of recent years, particularly French farmers but also ones

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<v Speaker 2>wider across Europe, they were fighting back against again stupid

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<v Speaker 2>crazy new rules. Well he's a new one that's coming

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<v Speaker 2>our way.

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<v Speaker 1>UK farmers. UK farmers have taken to the streets.

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<v Speaker 2>They are pushing hard against new rules put in place

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<v Speaker 2>by every London centric government that of course is punishing

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<v Speaker 2>people in regional areas because they have no issue about

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<v Speaker 2>how they vote, because they will never end up voting

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<v Speaker 2>labor sound familiar to what happens here in Australia. One

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<v Speaker 2>of the people who took to the streets is none

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<v Speaker 2>other than the bloke who's sensational show on Amazon called

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<v Speaker 2>Clarkson's Farm Jeremy Clarkson.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got to watch this. You've really got to watch

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<v Speaker 1>this show.

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<v Speaker 2>He's funny, he's interesting, but most importantly he shows you

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<v Speaker 2>the plight of life in rural areas. And you can

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<v Speaker 2>see this is a swashbuckling bloke from London who's decided

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<v Speaker 2>to experience that life, the people and the life we

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<v Speaker 2>know is tough.

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<v Speaker 1>Here is why he took to the streets.

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<v Speaker 5>She said the past, if she'd have wanted to take

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<v Speaker 5>out the likes of James Dyson and investment bankers and

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<v Speaker 5>so on, she would have used a sniper's rifle. But

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<v Speaker 5>she's used the blunderbus and she's hit all this lot.

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<v Speaker 5>It was, as I understand it, it was a very rushed,

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<v Speaker 5>last minute decision, and I think, you know, we all

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<v Speaker 5>make mistakes in life, and I think it's time for

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<v Speaker 5>them to say, you know what, we've got this one

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<v Speaker 5>up a bit and back down.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my view, right, that's why he's in it.

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<v Speaker 2>Hill copped of course, in an around the rifle conversation,

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<v Speaker 2>he is an explanation though about the wider issue and

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<v Speaker 2>why they were protesting.

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<v Speaker 6>Look at this. This is really chasing. I think this

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<v Speaker 6>is farm business income. This is for cropping farm so

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<v Speaker 6>horticulture cereals in the light over the last three years.

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<v Speaker 6>Last year, nearly one hundred thousand pounds was the average income,

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<v Speaker 6>not profit money coming through the door. Look at last

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<v Speaker 6>year less than fifty thousand pounds been a dreadful year

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<v Speaker 6>on the farm. You're only bringing in less than fifty

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<v Speaker 6>pounds on average through the door before you account for

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<v Speaker 6>a profit. And you've got a big tax bill annually.

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<v Speaker 6>You've got to think where is that money going to

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<v Speaker 6>come from? And that is where without tax planning. There

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<v Speaker 6>are ways around this. You can pass the states on

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<v Speaker 6>seven years early. You can get life insurance. But that's

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<v Speaker 6>why some farms are saying they're going to have no

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<v Speaker 6>choice but to sell land to pay the tax man.

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<v Speaker 1>Extraordinary stuff, strength and love do everyone is on the land.

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<v Speaker 2>We look forward to celebrating you yet again outtown Sunday night.

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<v Speaker 1>This one from Bendigo in Victoria.

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<v Speaker 2>But wherever you are, we really appreciate everyone watching us,

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<v Speaker 2>especially those people watching us right now on scone is Regional.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for the support that you show this program

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<v Speaker 2>each and every night. We'll send nothing but strength and

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<v Speaker 2>love your way, all right. A couple of other things

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<v Speaker 2>worth mentioning, tasy What the hick's going on in taxi?

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<v Speaker 2>They already had an election this year. We know that

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<v Speaker 2>the government effectively is a minority government. It has been

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<v Speaker 2>propped up by people who used to be part of

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<v Speaker 2>the Jackie Lambiy alliance. They couldn't stand working with her,

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<v Speaker 2>so they became independence to prop up the government. But

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<v Speaker 2>guess what, it has already been tested and it was

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<v Speaker 2>this close to the whole thing falling over again and

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<v Speaker 2>a new election being called. It's all in relations to

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<v Speaker 2>poker machines and there's been a long fight for a

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<v Speaker 2>long time. But the Labor Party in Tasmania is nuts

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<v Speaker 2>about and they're obsessed with wanting to ban these things.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter how many elections they lose and how

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<v Speaker 2>many times and how many bits of the state they

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<v Speaker 2>turn around and tell them to bugger off. Note they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to keep going because that's the way they like

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<v Speaker 2>to march on. So because things have not changed, or sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>things have changed. You saw the Labour Party get up

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<v Speaker 2>with the Greens and others to try to force a

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<v Speaker 2>no confidence motion that would of course effectively mean either

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<v Speaker 2>a change of government on the floor of the Parliament,

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<v Speaker 2>but because the Labour Party doesn't have enough numbers, what

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<v Speaker 2>it would actually mean is off to a brand new election.

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<v Speaker 2>I love your Tazzy. You deserve better than the garbage

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<v Speaker 2>that's going on there right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>Now to Coeensland, where of course that idiot Stephen Miles

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<v Speaker 2>is now the reality is sinking in that he's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be the opposition leader for the next few years.

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<v Speaker 2>His chance of becoming premier is four years away. And

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, he's still on social media. I noticed

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<v Speaker 2>he was being effectively a tooling down on the Gold

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<v Speaker 2>Coast in the past couple of days, so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>talking to young people about their issues. The faces you

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<v Speaker 2>can see on TV though, a Queensland labor in peace

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<v Speaker 2>who lost their seats. They're all going to get forty

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand dollars each because of course, when they lose

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<v Speaker 2>their job, they get your money, despite the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>when they were in your job they bug it up

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<v Speaker 2>how they spent your.

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<v Speaker 1>Money and that's why you gave them the backside in

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<v Speaker 1>the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>And finally, a good bit of news, I ninety eight

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<v Speaker 2>radio station Woollongong in New South Wales.

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<v Speaker 1>For twenty years.

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<v Speaker 2>They have done this spectacular charity thing which is a

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<v Speaker 2>giant convoy. It's a convoy for the kids and it

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<v Speaker 2>raises lots of money, lots of toys, lots of gifts

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<v Speaker 2>for the kids that struggle in and around there. Can

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<v Speaker 2>I say to Marty, Christian Bella and everyone who listens

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<v Speaker 2>to that show, congratulations because the twentieth andversary version of

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<v Speaker 2>this Illawarra Convoy has now raised two and a half

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<v Speaker 2>million dollars. Congratulations to each and every one of you

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<v Speaker 2>and everyone who helped along the way. Now, as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>on this program, we have supported Trump. There have been

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<v Speaker 2>plenty of times where we get that not everything's amazing,

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<v Speaker 2>but generally speaking we are Trump supporters, certainly of the

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<v Speaker 2>past couple of years, and we're very excited about what

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<v Speaker 2>happened when it came to the election. Hence why the

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<v Speaker 2>Trump dance is more than welcome on this program. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>Meghan Kelly and I joining a Trump dance from time

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<v Speaker 2>to time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a stiff move, but hers is way more

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<v Speaker 1>impressive than mine.

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<v Speaker 2>For the most obvious of reasons, Well, Not all Australians,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, are happy about Donald Trump, and it is

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<v Speaker 2>my responsibility to tell you the truth, which includes a

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<v Speaker 2>new pole which says quite a few people have some

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<v Speaker 2>different views here the Talbot Mills Research poll. Never heard

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<v Speaker 2>of it, but anyway, let's follow the headline. Conducted in

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<v Speaker 2>the week following the election found forty five percent of

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<v Speaker 2>Australians thought that his return to power would be a disaster.

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<v Speaker 2>Just twenty three percent of people are correct and believe

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<v Speaker 2>that he would be a good president the issues.

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<v Speaker 1>They are in and around.

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<v Speaker 2>Men men aged thirty to forty four believe forty three

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<v Speaker 2>percent of them so the Republican would be a good president,

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<v Speaker 2>which is double the number who believed that his second

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<v Speaker 2>term would be a disaster. One in five women think

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<v Speaker 2>that Trump will be a good president. But this is

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<v Speaker 2>really interesting that group men thirty to forty four. These

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<v Speaker 2>are people who were taught in woke schools. These are

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<v Speaker 2>people who have been told you can't say that, But

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<v Speaker 2>now they know they can say that, and they know

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<v Speaker 2>that they can say and call but yes on much

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<v Speaker 2>of the stuff that they are told is absolutely non negotiable.

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<v Speaker 2>Wonder what will happen at the upcoming federal election one

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<v Speaker 2>of the biggest areas that helps define Australian elections of

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<v Speaker 2>people between the ages of thirty five and fifty five.

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<v Speaker 2>We know that thirty five to fifty five year old

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<v Speaker 2>women moved hard against the Liberal Party and hence the

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<v Speaker 2>teals popped up.

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<v Speaker 1>But are we going to have a.

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<v Speaker 2>Scenario where thirty five to fifty five year old men

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<v Speaker 2>are going to run in exactly the opposite direction, canceling

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<v Speaker 2>out the new activism that's gone its way of the teels.

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<v Speaker 1>Watch this space all right.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to cut it there because I've got great

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<v Speaker 2>things ahead. In fact, right after the break, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>love every second of this. I can't say a word,

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<v Speaker 2>but believe me, sit there, enjoy and make sure that

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<v Speaker 2>you're well hydrated because you're going to love the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Something special. Next, Nigel Farage, before we're done, thanks for watching.

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<v Speaker 1>Told you this was special. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Cave doors are locked because we're going to have some

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<v Speaker 2>fun right now. Joining me around the table is not

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<v Speaker 2>and as Steven Conry, who's just here to help and

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<v Speaker 2>the carryouver Champ brom and Bishop Lovely to see you both.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's begin with this Kevin Rudd has come out

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<v Speaker 2>of Kevin Rudd High to tell us that Kevin Rud

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<v Speaker 2>is now willing to deal with the Trump administration. How

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<v Speaker 2>very kind of him now, of course, because we are

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<v Speaker 2>all loyal subjects of Karen. Here's what the ambassador had

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<v Speaker 2>to say today.

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<v Speaker 7>We live in a world of many challenges, and we

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<v Speaker 7>are clear that the region we want, the interests we have,

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<v Speaker 7>and the values we share require and call for our

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<v Speaker 7>two nations to work together. And that is what we

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<v Speaker 7>will continue to do with President Trump and his incoming administration.

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<v Speaker 7>We here at the Embassy in Washington look forward to

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<v Speaker 7>contributing to that in the future.

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<v Speaker 2>Roman, We here at the embassy, like you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just a bunch of us, you know, sitting around in

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<v Speaker 2>this little hut that we put together.

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<v Speaker 1>There's brand new, multi billion dollar building.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, I have one comment to make, arrogance. Thy name

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<v Speaker 8>is Rudd. Yes, what about the Royal We I mean serious.

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<v Speaker 8>It's not a question of him being prepared to work

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<v Speaker 8>with the president. You've got agree to that stuff. It's

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<v Speaker 8>a question of how he's received by the government for

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<v Speaker 8>whom we are supposed to be putting Australia's best case.

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<v Speaker 2>And look and again those that there is most obsequious

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<v Speaker 2>members of lovers in the media. Right media lovers, I

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<v Speaker 2>should say, turning around and saying you know, well, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>you know he's playing a four D chest that none

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<v Speaker 2>of us can see in the news corp conspiracy of

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<v Speaker 2>trying to push him out so he can rerun a

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<v Speaker 2>royal commission camp. Okay, we don't see it. The point

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<v Speaker 2>is right, he doesn't have to come out and say

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's the greatest, Trump's Trump's amazing, but he does have

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<v Speaker 2>to some degree say, look, some of us have made

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<v Speaker 2>poor judgments in the past about him and his position,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's why we think we're in a position to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to work this sort of garbage of releasing

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<v Speaker 2>a statement that we are now finally ready to deal with. Mate,

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<v Speaker 2>you deal with who the American people elect, not the

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<v Speaker 2>other way around or.

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<v Speaker 9>Espirsonally the leasing a statement, he was speaking to a conference,

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<v Speaker 9>so it was a little bit more formal than just

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<v Speaker 9>him having a chat.

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<v Speaker 1>And hence why it was a royal wi. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>just a collective wie.

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<v Speaker 9>It was a royal So I think this was part

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<v Speaker 9>of that process that you're saying he should do so.

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<v Speaker 9>I think this is the beginnings of that. But again

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<v Speaker 9>I go back to the fundamental issue. All sides of

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<v Speaker 9>politics in Australia has said consistently he's done a good job.

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<v Speaker 9>He has pursued and chased the issues of Australia needed

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<v Speaker 9>to pursue. Yes, there's a new leadership. Yes it's going

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<v Speaker 9>to be a bit tougher, there's going to be some

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<v Speaker 9>significant issues differences. Tariffs is the obvious one, and we

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<v Speaker 9>have to get behind him because he's got to succeed

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<v Speaker 9>for the good of the country.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but what about the bit where somebody who was

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<v Speaker 2>obviously trying to help didn't really help today when it

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<v Speaker 2>was one of the security advisors to the Biden people,

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<v Speaker 2>I was out about saying that he's operating like a

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<v Speaker 2>foreign minister, which basically means he's outdoing whatever the heck

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<v Speaker 2>he wants to, rather than doing the bidding of a

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<v Speaker 2>foreign ministry, he's behaving as a foreign minister while he's

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<v Speaker 2>in Washington.

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<v Speaker 1>This wasn't very helpful today, was it. Bromwin and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Get it that Penny Wong's currently obsessed with what's happening

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<v Speaker 2>in the Middle East, but he's supposed to be the servant,

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<v Speaker 2>not the master.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the whole problem.

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<v Speaker 8>The job of a diplomat is to be diplomatic. It

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<v Speaker 8>is to put the best case for your country and

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<v Speaker 8>make someone you're putting it to be sympathetic to the

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<v Speaker 8>country you're representing. How that arrogance can met that description

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<v Speaker 8>is beyond my comprehension, he says.

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<v Speaker 4>The team is ready.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I hope the goodness they are, because the team

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<v Speaker 8>is going to be useful no matter who is the diplomat.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and I think there'll be some other people to

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<v Speaker 2>be added to the team, perhaps a little in the

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<v Speaker 2>shadows and the flanks, perhaps of the side.

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<v Speaker 1>Of politics that he doesn't like.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk though about today the people behind the scenes

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<v Speaker 2>and the Labor Party are saying they're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>fall into the same trap that Harrison Democrats did in

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<v Speaker 2>the American election in the Australian election. Put simply, that

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<v Speaker 2>just means everyone say cost of living as many times

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<v Speaker 2>as you possibly can. However, I'm not sure that people

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<v Speaker 2>are listening, and as even we saw in a place

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<v Speaker 2>like Queensland, where sure, thanks very much, thanks very much,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks very much. All right, Buggy you was the reaction.

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<v Speaker 2>What does this say to you, Bromwin about labor honestly

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<v Speaker 2>starting to push some bricks here that they know that

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<v Speaker 2>they are on some very sticky paper.

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<v Speaker 4>They're stuck.

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<v Speaker 8>Every time they get up and say everything's wonderful, the

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<v Speaker 8>economy's fantastic, you're all doing terribly well.

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<v Speaker 4>You've had wage rises, you've.

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<v Speaker 8>Got cheaper charget, it irritates people beyond belief because they're

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<v Speaker 8>having trouble playing for the groceries. So in a way,

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<v Speaker 8>every time they mentioned cost of living and what we

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<v Speaker 8>have done for you, aren't you lucky? In parentheses, it

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<v Speaker 8>just aggravates people more and more. And all the polls

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<v Speaker 8>show that, and in Australia they far more accurate than

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<v Speaker 8>they own. You understand, Yes, this is important to note

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<v Speaker 8>show that Peter Dutton is much more trusted about being

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<v Speaker 8>able to manage the economy than either the snake Charma

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<v Speaker 8>or Alberta Trots.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>But by the way, see when they look everyone see

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<v Speaker 2>have you noticed when they look at each other in

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<v Speaker 2>the eye temperature down right? We're bout having a conversation,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, But Stephen, what's really going on here?

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<v Speaker 9>What's the secret I think no. I think Paul needed

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<v Speaker 9>to say what he said. I think there are lessons

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<v Speaker 9>that need to be learned from what happened in America.

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<v Speaker 9>So I think he was actually not trying to send

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<v Speaker 9>a subliminal message talk about cost of living, because most

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<v Speaker 9>good points, people are hurting and they don't react well

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<v Speaker 9>to a bit of a lecture about how well they're

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<v Speaker 9>all doing. I couldn't agree with more on that, So

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<v Speaker 9>I think Paul was really wanting to say there's whole

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<v Speaker 9>bunch of esoteric issues, called them the woke collection of

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<v Speaker 9>issues that we should really not be talking about. We

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<v Speaker 9>need to be talking about the successes, whether it's in

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<v Speaker 9>age care, whether it's in what we've done in economic relief.

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<v Speaker 9>We've got to be talking about those. If you're going

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<v Speaker 9>to indulge yourself, there's a Paul's basic message, you're going

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<v Speaker 9>to end up like the Democrats. You're going to end

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<v Speaker 9>up in a situation where after the election will be

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<v Speaker 9>saying we didn't want to buy about freak show party

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<v Speaker 9>that the Center's Democrats are now having the debate in

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<v Speaker 9>the US about well.

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<v Speaker 2>Perfect example, right, if the entire business of the day

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<v Speaker 2>of Parliament one day was to guarantee the Nbian wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be sold.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember that was the day. And then there's the they know.

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<v Speaker 9>I was very popular. I had people texting me saying,

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<v Speaker 9>never have the liberals spoken so well.

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<v Speaker 1>Press relation. I've got the press.

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<v Speaker 9>Quoting it a lot.

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<v Speaker 8>Apparently the problem you wanted to sell it but it's

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<v Speaker 8>not salable.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well was it?

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<v Speaker 2>So when we talk about priorities, right, that was of

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<v Speaker 2>course a get out of upgrade albut right.

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<v Speaker 1>Or quickly let's talk about that for the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Then of course there's been this misinformation stuff, which is

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<v Speaker 2>the sense of the internet stuf that's gone all right,

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<v Speaker 2>Clearly there is no path in the Senate unless there's

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<v Speaker 2>about to be a giant sort of you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Scooby Doo style reveal of somebody who said no voting yes,

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<v Speaker 2>which means take the vote, kill it off, get rid

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<v Speaker 2>of it now. Almost likely they're probably going to turn

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<v Speaker 2>around and say we know we can't win, so we'll

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<v Speaker 2>yank it and then keep it alive as an election issue.

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<v Speaker 2>If they do that, then that is everywhere other than

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<v Speaker 2>where Paul.

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<v Speaker 1>Erickson was saying labour needs to be today.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I felt sorry for mister Erickson. He had to

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<v Speaker 8>say something to this party.

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<v Speaker 1>Room and well the Prime Minister wasn't there, believing at.

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<v Speaker 8>This stage of the game have being said in party

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<v Speaker 8>rooms for many, many years.

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<v Speaker 4>There will be very nervous people sitting in there.

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<v Speaker 8>There will be people who are feeling, particularly marginal seattholders,

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<v Speaker 8>who are saying, one of these people done to me,

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<v Speaker 8>Why am I going to approbate the price? So he

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<v Speaker 8>had to try and shore them up. But honestly and

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<v Speaker 8>truly what they are doing is exactly what the Democrats did.

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<v Speaker 8>We're going to bash up on the leader, call him names, yes,

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<v Speaker 8>say he's a horrible person, and then we're going to

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<v Speaker 8>tell you what a great job we've done.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's a really interesting point. So we see that

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<v Speaker 2>labor again. There's the whole We've got an ad and

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to run it soon, put it in the

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<v Speaker 2>media and then the media runs it for free. Right,

0:36:13.040 --> 0:36:16.320
<v Speaker 2>pretty simple trick. And it's all about under Peter Dutton,

0:36:16.320 --> 0:36:18.320
<v Speaker 2>you'll be worse off. What do you think of that

0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:21.919
<v Speaker 2>as a tactic, because under elbow they are worse off.

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<v Speaker 9>Right, there's simple maths. If Dutton wants to make some

0:36:26.320 --> 0:36:28.719
<v Speaker 9>serious shows like he's already dumped the tax cuts. That

0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:30.759
<v Speaker 9>was going to be a miller around his deck. He's

0:36:30.800 --> 0:36:34.000
<v Speaker 9>got to put forward and spending cuts. Okay, and that's

0:36:34.040 --> 0:36:36.719
<v Speaker 9>where it gets to. You need to reinforce what he

0:36:36.760 --> 0:36:40.960
<v Speaker 9>did to say that what he's going to propose is

0:36:41.200 --> 0:36:43.520
<v Speaker 9>going to make you worse than you currently are. So

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:46.319
<v Speaker 9>the two bits need to come together. So you have

0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:48.040
<v Speaker 9>to start one part of the discussion.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 9>I think if they just try and personalize it to oh,

0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:55.120
<v Speaker 9>he's just a bad person, I think they'll miss the

0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:56.800
<v Speaker 9>target like Kamala missed the target.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes on you know Trump.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, well, I think it needs to be about real

0:37:01.640 --> 0:37:04.080
<v Speaker 9>substantive actions that Dutton's taken and he's going to do

0:37:04.120 --> 0:37:07.960
<v Speaker 9>these to you again that at least has a degree

0:37:08.280 --> 0:37:11.200
<v Speaker 9>that might get through if you talk about it for

0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:11.719
<v Speaker 9>six months.

0:37:11.800 --> 0:37:15.600
<v Speaker 2>But also right so you know, after spinning our head

0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:17.960
<v Speaker 2>and putting our head into the American election for as

0:37:17.960 --> 0:37:20.520
<v Speaker 2>long as we have right, they have these whole teams

0:37:20.560 --> 0:37:22.239
<v Speaker 2>whose job it is is to respond to what the

0:37:22.280 --> 0:37:24.440
<v Speaker 2>other team did that day, right, like they do it

0:37:24.520 --> 0:37:26.840
<v Speaker 2>quickly on Twitter. They come back with a meme, here's

0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:29.759
<v Speaker 2>your ad, here's really fast. The Lips have had no

0:37:29.800 --> 0:37:33.320
<v Speaker 2>response publicly to these stories that have been building for

0:37:33.320 --> 0:37:36.120
<v Speaker 2>a couple of days. Now, again, American politics is different

0:37:36.160 --> 0:37:38.520
<v Speaker 2>than Australian. But does the Liberal Party have to wake

0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:41.080
<v Speaker 2>up to the twenty four of it all, which is

0:37:41.400 --> 0:37:44.680
<v Speaker 2>the elections are actually one and lost way before the

0:37:44.760 --> 0:37:46.040
<v Speaker 2>campaign is even close.

0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:51.959
<v Speaker 8>Well, I think they know that, but I still stick

0:37:52.000 --> 0:37:55.720
<v Speaker 8>to my prognostication that it will be an early election.

0:37:55.960 --> 0:38:00.040
<v Speaker 8>I mean, all the decks are being cleared, All the

0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:03.120
<v Speaker 8>outgoing MPs have been told to do the valedictories these

0:38:03.200 --> 0:38:03.880
<v Speaker 8>two weeks.

0:38:05.239 --> 0:38:07.040
<v Speaker 4>All the signs are there that they're ready to go.

0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:09.040
<v Speaker 1>And those two weeks are what the first two weeks?

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<v Speaker 4>This week, there's a lot have been done this week. Wow,

0:38:11.840 --> 0:38:13.200
<v Speaker 4>the rest will finish next week.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, so all the decks are cleared, so they're not

0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:18.120
<v Speaker 8>coming back next year.

0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:19.839
<v Speaker 4>There's not going to be a second budget.

0:38:20.040 --> 0:38:22.880
<v Speaker 8>Why would when you've got a treasure who's been boasting,

0:38:22.880 --> 0:38:26.839
<v Speaker 8>he's had two services, why is he going to come

0:38:26.880 --> 0:38:29.440
<v Speaker 8>back for a third one? Say oh, well, here's the deficit?

0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:32.759
<v Speaker 2>So can I ask the mechanical question? Okay, if two

0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:35.319
<v Speaker 2>weeks everyone says they're goodbyes there, thanks very much. The

0:38:35.400 --> 0:38:38.400
<v Speaker 2>retiring people right, obviously not planning to come back to work.

0:38:39.800 --> 0:38:42.360
<v Speaker 2>The first sittings would be in February if they were

0:38:42.600 --> 0:38:43.960
<v Speaker 2>planning to come back to work.

0:38:44.280 --> 0:38:46.640
<v Speaker 1>So if they're talking about potentially a May election, why

0:38:46.640 --> 0:38:49.120
<v Speaker 1>would Parliament not be back in February.

0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:51.600
<v Speaker 4>It doesn't have to be right well to do it?

0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:55.360
<v Speaker 2>Say well, which means you call the election around Australia

0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:58.799
<v Speaker 2>Day for some time in February, right, or what if

0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:02.440
<v Speaker 2>the thirty three after? Okay, cool, good, good to know there. Now,

0:39:02.480 --> 0:39:05.880
<v Speaker 2>just by the way, just about American politics for a second, Stephen,

0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:10.360
<v Speaker 2>your team spent a billion dollars and ended up twenty

0:39:10.480 --> 0:39:13.279
<v Speaker 2>million dollars in the hole. They spent two and a

0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:14.920
<v Speaker 2>half million dollars on Oprah.

0:39:14.920 --> 0:39:18.360
<v Speaker 9>Winfrey has denied that, and Beyonce has denied that.

0:39:18.520 --> 0:39:22.040
<v Speaker 2>Well about personal payment, but whether their company's harper.

0:39:22.680 --> 0:39:23.960
<v Speaker 1>But you get the point, right.

0:39:25.360 --> 0:39:27.279
<v Speaker 2>Look, people win and lose elections for a whole bunch

0:39:27.280 --> 0:39:29.560
<v Speaker 2>of reasons. And I'm sorry, it's late enough at night,

0:39:29.600 --> 0:39:30.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to say it.

0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:32.920
<v Speaker 1>How do you piece away a billion dollars? That's a

0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:35.640
<v Speaker 1>very good question. Surely you could spend three quarters of

0:39:35.640 --> 0:39:36.359
<v Speaker 1>a bill and loose.

0:39:36.360 --> 0:39:39.600
<v Speaker 9>They got themselves convinced that on a couple of issues like,

0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:43.480
<v Speaker 9>as an example, abortion, that there were all these Republican

0:39:43.520 --> 0:39:46.799
<v Speaker 9>women who were going to vote against Trump, still for

0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:49.160
<v Speaker 9>the rest of the Republicans, but against Trump. And what

0:39:49.560 --> 0:39:53.080
<v Speaker 9>the referendu In four of the swing states they voted.

0:39:53.360 --> 0:39:57.200
<v Speaker 9>They voted four abortion rights to be enshrined in the legislation,

0:39:57.680 --> 0:40:00.760
<v Speaker 9>and yet they still voted for Trump. Yeah, this tactic

0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:03.040
<v Speaker 9>was an epic fail and there was a lot of

0:40:04.520 --> 0:40:08.000
<v Speaker 9>no effort to try and farm a vote that didn't exist.

0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:10.840
<v Speaker 9>And that's how you waste a lot of money, Okay, and.

0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:14.320
<v Speaker 2>In a machine, right, presumably, if you've got two hundred

0:40:14.400 --> 0:40:18.279
<v Speaker 2>million dollars, you've got access to the best data thing

0:40:18.280 --> 0:40:19.840
<v Speaker 2>in the world to have a look around this corner,

0:40:19.920 --> 0:40:21.200
<v Speaker 2>under this and lift this and all of that.

0:40:21.280 --> 0:40:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Right, But obviously the data was wrong. Right now.

0:40:24.920 --> 0:40:26.320
<v Speaker 2>We know they were spinning and basing and all the

0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:27.960
<v Speaker 2>rest of it. But you don't keep spending. I mean,

0:40:28.120 --> 0:40:31.000
<v Speaker 2>when you know you're losing, you know you're losing, all right,

0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:34.760
<v Speaker 2>So how do you change the data when the data

0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:36.799
<v Speaker 2>is wrong? I mean, famously there was sort of the

0:40:36.840 --> 0:40:39.920
<v Speaker 2>twenty nineteen labour thinks their data was headed this way, and.

0:40:39.840 --> 0:40:42.360
<v Speaker 1>Then they changed some things for twenty two. What do

0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:44.080
<v Speaker 1>you do because presumably.

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<v Speaker 9>These are the trick in the US system though, is

0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:52.520
<v Speaker 9>because it's sometimes about trying to encourage the other party's

0:40:52.960 --> 0:40:56.680
<v Speaker 9>voters not to turn out. Right, So the reason the

0:40:56.719 --> 0:40:59.120
<v Speaker 9>tactics are a bit different. Why you know yourself and

0:40:59.200 --> 0:41:01.759
<v Speaker 9>others have said, you can't just follow the Trump playbook

0:41:02.120 --> 0:41:05.360
<v Speaker 9>because everyone has to come to vote. So you do

0:41:05.440 --> 0:41:07.920
<v Speaker 9>two things in an election campaign in the US that

0:41:07.960 --> 0:41:10.080
<v Speaker 9>you don't do in Australia. You've got to encourage your

0:41:10.160 --> 0:41:13.440
<v Speaker 9>voters to come out, and you've got to discourage your

0:41:13.440 --> 0:41:15.560
<v Speaker 9>opponent's voter. So you've got to keep running the negative

0:41:15.560 --> 0:41:18.640
<v Speaker 9>ads try and dissuade them to come. In Australia, that

0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:21.120
<v Speaker 9>can't work. By definition, people turn.

0:41:21.000 --> 0:41:23.759
<v Speaker 2>Up and then and then inside a political party, when

0:41:23.800 --> 0:41:26.160
<v Speaker 2>you when you're getting the insights wrong, like when your

0:41:26.160 --> 0:41:29.200
<v Speaker 2>instruments are off, do you change the instruments?

0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:30.920
<v Speaker 1>Do you jump into the new plane? Do you give

0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:32.760
<v Speaker 1>the people who got it wrong a second chance?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, that's that's if you knew the answer to that question,

0:41:39.680 --> 0:41:40.480
<v Speaker 8>you'd never lose.

0:41:42.840 --> 0:41:43.360
<v Speaker 1>Its.

0:41:43.800 --> 0:41:44.920
<v Speaker 2>Both lost a lot of it.

0:41:45.200 --> 0:41:52.239
<v Speaker 1>I've never lost one, never lost one. You opened it up.

0:41:52.480 --> 0:41:53.439
<v Speaker 1>You opened it up.

0:41:54.960 --> 0:41:56.880
<v Speaker 4>Was successful in all the elections. I wrote it.

0:41:57.280 --> 0:41:59.000
<v Speaker 1>There we go excellent. All right, thank you guys to

0:41:59.080 --> 0:42:01.120
<v Speaker 1>appreciate it. A very quick shout out.

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<v Speaker 9>A couple of weeks back, I was traveling overseas on

0:42:05.200 --> 0:42:07.680
<v Speaker 9>a Thursday morning and one of the stewarts coming he

0:42:07.719 --> 0:42:09.319
<v Speaker 9>hit his name. He didn't want me to know his name.

0:42:09.680 --> 0:42:12.719
<v Speaker 9>I just wanted to say to you how fantastic and

0:42:12.760 --> 0:42:15.759
<v Speaker 9>how much he enjoys watching the three of us, and

0:42:15.800 --> 0:42:17.239
<v Speaker 9>so I wanted to give him a shout out him

0:42:17.239 --> 0:42:18.600
<v Speaker 9>and they didn't want me to know his name. And

0:42:18.680 --> 0:42:21.320
<v Speaker 9>he did ask me to, you know, not as a primar,

0:42:21.400 --> 0:42:24.120
<v Speaker 9>but just as a reminder that I'd do this. But

0:42:24.239 --> 0:42:26.759
<v Speaker 9>I'll give you a corners cap to leave in the

0:42:26.800 --> 0:42:28.759
<v Speaker 9>man cave. He wanted it in the man cave. And

0:42:28.880 --> 0:42:32.480
<v Speaker 9>I apologize to him. I forgot it coming to Sydney.

0:42:32.800 --> 0:42:34.920
<v Speaker 9>But he was a great guy. Had a lot of

0:42:35.000 --> 0:42:38.200
<v Speaker 9>laughs with him during the lives. But he really loved

0:42:38.560 --> 0:42:39.759
<v Speaker 9>watching this part of the show.

0:42:39.800 --> 0:42:40.880
<v Speaker 1>I Love You it was.

0:42:40.920 --> 0:42:43.880
<v Speaker 9>It was very kind of em. He was fabulous on

0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:44.680
<v Speaker 9>the plane.

0:42:44.680 --> 0:42:47.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, our mystery man when he can't turn up, that's

0:42:47.239 --> 0:42:49.120
<v Speaker 2>going to be our shout out to you. Thanks very much,

0:42:49.160 --> 0:42:51.279
<v Speaker 2>appreciate it, guys, look forward to seeing you again next week.

0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:53.759
<v Speaker 2>Niger for us standing by in the UK. So much

0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:56.200
<v Speaker 2>to talk about with him, so joy us next.

0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:01.400
<v Speaker 1>Niger.

0:43:01.480 --> 0:43:03.680
<v Speaker 2>Faras joins us now from the UK where he does

0:43:03.719 --> 0:43:05.200
<v Speaker 2>it and every week you can see a show on

0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:05.759
<v Speaker 2>GBN News.

0:43:05.800 --> 0:43:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Great man, love you to see you.

0:43:07.120 --> 0:43:10.040
<v Speaker 2>And what about the news out of Wales where reform

0:43:10.400 --> 0:43:14.879
<v Speaker 2>is absolutely braining it in what might be local elections there.

0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:20.520
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, we have the Welsh Parliament elections coming up not

0:43:20.680 --> 0:43:24.239
<v Speaker 10>till twenty twenty six, but no. Really interesting in Wales's

0:43:24.239 --> 0:43:28.160
<v Speaker 10>reform now is the opposition to labor. This one pole

0:43:28.239 --> 0:43:30.840
<v Speaker 10>even puts US ahead of labor. And remember that the

0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:34.320
<v Speaker 10>values of South Wales, that's the home of the Labor Party.

0:43:34.360 --> 0:43:37.800
<v Speaker 10>That's kind of where the whole thing started. So yeah,

0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:40.399
<v Speaker 10>we're seeing very big change. And I think I think

0:43:40.400 --> 0:43:44.560
<v Speaker 10>Trump's victory in America is making people look at things

0:43:44.560 --> 0:43:47.960
<v Speaker 10>and thinking, wow, maybe we can do different too. So yeah,

0:43:48.040 --> 0:43:49.239
<v Speaker 10>quite exciting times for me.

0:43:49.920 --> 0:43:50.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:43:50.160 --> 0:43:51.880
<v Speaker 2>I often think about this and I have obviously in

0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:53.400
<v Speaker 2>the past couple of weeks, right, which is that you

0:43:53.440 --> 0:43:55.880
<v Speaker 2>don't want to overinterpret a result. You don't want to

0:43:55.880 --> 0:43:58.640
<v Speaker 2>think that you know, one and me again. No win

0:43:58.800 --> 0:44:01.839
<v Speaker 2>is forever, no revolution, you know, it's just there's there's

0:44:01.880 --> 0:44:03.279
<v Speaker 2>the back and forth.

0:44:03.239 --> 0:44:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Of all of it.

0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:06.719
<v Speaker 2>Right, However, there has been this really interesting feeling in

0:44:06.719 --> 0:44:07.720
<v Speaker 2>the past couple of weeks.

0:44:08.000 --> 0:44:08.839
<v Speaker 1>It does feel like.

0:44:08.840 --> 0:44:10.959
<v Speaker 2>The doors have been blown off for people to say,

0:44:11.000 --> 0:44:13.400
<v Speaker 2>you know what, I can say it, I can do it,

0:44:13.560 --> 0:44:15.200
<v Speaker 2>and I can do it the way I want to

0:44:15.200 --> 0:44:18.120
<v Speaker 2>do it, which means I don't want to go the

0:44:18.160 --> 0:44:21.959
<v Speaker 2>old ways of doing things. And it's fascinating watching all

0:44:22.080 --> 0:44:25.400
<v Speaker 2>the system in place still fighting, but they're fighting a

0:44:25.440 --> 0:44:28.520
<v Speaker 2>completely different sport against Trump, and I think the same

0:44:28.560 --> 0:44:33.080
<v Speaker 2>applies to you and reform.

0:44:33.440 --> 0:44:36.520
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I mean, you know, they don't change the establishment,

0:44:36.600 --> 0:44:39.520
<v Speaker 10>don't change their tactics, they don't change their ground game.

0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:44.040
<v Speaker 10>And what they're not recognizing is the silent majority are

0:44:44.080 --> 0:44:48.000
<v Speaker 10>beginning to speak. The silent majority are less scared to

0:44:48.080 --> 0:44:51.520
<v Speaker 10>say what they feel, and the silent majority recognize that

0:44:51.600 --> 0:44:54.840
<v Speaker 10>the way we're going in every Western country is in

0:44:54.920 --> 0:44:58.040
<v Speaker 10>a decline as the East gets stronger. So no, no,

0:44:58.160 --> 0:45:02.040
<v Speaker 10>I'm I genuinely think that we are at between now

0:45:02.080 --> 0:45:04.760
<v Speaker 10>and say, the next couple of years, a real pivotal

0:45:04.800 --> 0:45:07.960
<v Speaker 10>point in Western politics. And you're seeing it in France,

0:45:08.040 --> 0:45:11.400
<v Speaker 10>you're seeing it in Germany, you've seen it already in Italy.

0:45:11.760 --> 0:45:15.120
<v Speaker 10>There's a big, big change coming, huge cultural change.

0:45:15.239 --> 0:45:18.240
<v Speaker 2>Now, forgive me, we didn't keep you up on this subject,

0:45:18.239 --> 0:45:19.560
<v Speaker 2>but I think it's one that you'd be able to

0:45:19.600 --> 0:45:23.120
<v Speaker 2>easily be across. Which is tonight, I had a conversation

0:45:23.800 --> 0:45:27.200
<v Speaker 2>that there's a report that's come out that says that

0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:30.160
<v Speaker 2>eight year olds in Australia is when you start to

0:45:30.200 --> 0:45:33.480
<v Speaker 2>see science of potential mental illness an eight year old, Right,

0:45:33.880 --> 0:45:35.719
<v Speaker 2>you'd have similar things in the UK. I don't know

0:45:35.760 --> 0:45:38.879
<v Speaker 2>exactly where the number would be, but did god, how

0:45:38.880 --> 0:45:40.840
<v Speaker 2>did we get here that the Western world, with all

0:45:40.920 --> 0:45:45.320
<v Speaker 2>of its you know, peace and prosperity, results in mental

0:45:45.360 --> 0:45:48.120
<v Speaker 2>illness in our kids. And it's not their fault because

0:45:48.200 --> 0:45:50.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, but how the heck did this happen?

0:45:54.120 --> 0:45:57.879
<v Speaker 10>Well, one thing I would say is that lockdown did

0:45:57.920 --> 0:46:00.920
<v Speaker 10>prove to be disastrous, genuinely for the mental health of

0:46:00.960 --> 0:46:04.759
<v Speaker 10>young people. They weren't socialized, they weren't normalized. We must

0:46:04.800 --> 0:46:08.280
<v Speaker 10>look down on what back on that period, in particular

0:46:08.440 --> 0:46:11.359
<v Speaker 10>what states like Victoria did, and we should hang our

0:46:11.400 --> 0:46:16.880
<v Speaker 10>heads in shame. That aside, we are over diagnosing mental illness.

0:46:17.000 --> 0:46:20.160
<v Speaker 10>We are taking normal trauma that we all go through

0:46:20.200 --> 0:46:22.479
<v Speaker 10>in our life when we feel upset, we feel down,

0:46:22.520 --> 0:46:26.319
<v Speaker 10>we're bereaved, whatever it may be, and we're overinterpreting that

0:46:26.719 --> 0:46:30.480
<v Speaker 10>as being mental illness. And we are from young ages

0:46:30.840 --> 0:46:34.600
<v Speaker 10>right the way through drugging the population with drugs to

0:46:34.640 --> 0:46:37.520
<v Speaker 10>lift us up. We're drugs to put us down. The

0:46:37.560 --> 0:46:42.040
<v Speaker 10>whole thing is a disaster and actually a little bit

0:46:42.040 --> 0:46:45.239
<v Speaker 10>of old fashioned put yourself together, just get on with it.

0:46:45.520 --> 0:46:48.360
<v Speaker 10>That's the way it is. Take the rough knocks, move on.

0:46:48.719 --> 0:46:50.799
<v Speaker 10>We need more of that attitude. And I have to say,

0:46:51.040 --> 0:46:53.279
<v Speaker 10>you know, I sound like my grandparents when I was

0:46:53.320 --> 0:46:55.600
<v Speaker 10>eight years old, and do you know what they were right?

0:46:55.800 --> 0:46:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Well, this is it.

0:46:56.719 --> 0:46:59.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they of course dealt with the existential threats

0:46:59.560 --> 0:47:02.200
<v Speaker 2>of world wars and depressions and all the rest of it.

0:47:02.480 --> 0:47:05.200
<v Speaker 2>I think also the fact that the diet of fear

0:47:05.239 --> 0:47:08.160
<v Speaker 2>that's in kids about climate change and cultural stuff and

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<v Speaker 2>all the rest of it doesn't help either. Last one,

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<v Speaker 2>he talked about Jeremy Clarkson and other farmers.

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<v Speaker 1>That took to the streets.

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<v Speaker 2>What is the tax situation that is forcing them onto

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<v Speaker 2>the streets.

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<v Speaker 10>So farming in this country, Yeah, of course we have

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<v Speaker 10>the great landed estates, you know, the downt and abbey

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<v Speaker 10>type of states. But most farms in Britain are quite small,

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<v Speaker 10>and many of them have stayed in families for generations,

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<v Speaker 10>in some cases even hundreds of years. One of the

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<v Speaker 10>reasons the whole world comes to England, comes to the

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<v Speaker 10>UK and says what a beautiful country it is is

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<v Speaker 10>because the way in which those families have stewarded that land. Now,

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<v Speaker 10>land prices have gone through the roof recently. So a

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<v Speaker 10>farmer has a farm on paper it's worth a fortune,

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<v Speaker 10>but his or her income is still very, very small.

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<v Speaker 10>And what the Government of posing is to introduce inheritance

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<v Speaker 10>tax on family farms at twenty percent over a fairly

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<v Speaker 10>small level. And that would mean that farms would need

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<v Speaker 10>to sell off chunks of their land, which ironically would

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<v Speaker 10>get bought by overseas companies who pay hardly any tax

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<v Speaker 10>here anyway. And frankly, it could be the death knell

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<v Speaker 10>of the family farm in our country, and it would

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<v Speaker 10>break up our rural communities. And it's almost as if

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<v Speaker 10>the urban elites who have no understanding of farming, no

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<v Speaker 10>understanding of country folk. It's almost as if.

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<v Speaker 1>They despise them.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, they want them to put up solar panels,

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<v Speaker 10>they want them to do rewilding. They've forgotten that farming

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<v Speaker 10>is about making food. A whole host of net zero

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<v Speaker 10>regulations and now this so our really lovely rural communities

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<v Speaker 10>feel in battled, and they came to London to protest yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>I was there with them.

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<v Speaker 10>Amazing, not a single sweet wrapper left behind. Protesters shaking

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<v Speaker 10>police officers hands, saying thank you for looking after us.

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<v Speaker 10>Just just the loveliest, nicest people you could ever meet,

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<v Speaker 10>under assault from an urban intellectual labor party.

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<v Speaker 2>Strength to their arms, strength of yours for talking about

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<v Speaker 2>them as well. See you next week, Thank you, Nigel.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's our show for the night, making Kill Eat.

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<v Speaker 1>Tomorrow you're on Poor Mariray Life