1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:04,559 Speaker 1: On scone Lives Australia. 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 2: This is the Wider Panalty Show. 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the readA Panekey show. 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 4: Coming up tonight, Chris Bowen's green energy tour. 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 3: To China and India. 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 4: The Climate Change Minister trying to convince major polluters to 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 4: invest in Labour's renewables roll out. 8 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 3: The Panel will weigh on that. Shortly the Australian. 9 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 4: Human Rights Commission disgraces itself again. Stephanie Bastian will be 10 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 4: here to take us through their latest bit of radical activism. 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 4: The Great Josh Hammer will have the laters from the 12 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 4: US and he responds to Candace Owen's allegations against him. 13 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 3: And later in the. 14 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 4: Hour, Kinsis Schofield on Prince Andrew's growing woes and Left 15 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 4: is Losing It features this loser. 16 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: I wasn't going to say anything about Charlie Cook, but don't. 17 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: There's nothing funny about it. Gone how you tested me? 18 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: I mean this, there's nothing funny about it. 19 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 4: But first to Senator Lydia Thorpe, who had this to 20 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 4: say during a speech at a pro Palestinian rally in 21 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 4: Melbourne yesterday. 22 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:15,919 Speaker 2: We stand with you every day and we will fight 23 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: every day and we will turn up every day. 24 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 4: And if I have to burn down Parliament House to 25 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 4: make a point. 26 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 5: I am not then make him. 27 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 3: I never jump the crown people. 28 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 4: Senator Thorpe now claims her threat to burn down Parliament 29 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 4: House was clearly a figure of speech and not a 30 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 4: literal threat. Joining me now for more on this is 31 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 4: Menzies Research Center Senior Fellow NIKATA and Chief Economist at 32 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 4: the Institute of Public Affairs, Adam Crichton Nick. I'll start 33 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 4: with you, Lydia Thorpe said she's not there to make friends. 34 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 4: What do you make of her explanation that the arson 35 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 4: threat was a figure of speech. 36 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 6: Well, if it was a figure of a speech, it 37 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 6: was a very ill chosen one, wasn't it, Given that 38 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 6: we've had a synagogue torched in Victoria. It's not an 39 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 6: idol threat. I mean, you know what it's like if 40 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 6: you were to make that kind of comment, say when 41 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 6: you're going through the security at an airport, they wouldn't 42 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 6: be laughing at the joke. You'd be straight off into 43 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 6: the in for questioning, as she should be. I mean, 44 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 6: she's broken. I can see she's broke the law. She's 45 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 6: broke the state law. She's broken the procedures of the Parliament, 46 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 6: and she's dishonored her role as a senator. But you know, 47 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 6: I think in the end read to recognize what's going 48 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 6: on here. I think most parents of teenagers we'll see 49 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 6: exactly what's going on here. It's somebody who never has 50 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 6: to face the consequences for her tantrums and her outposts, 51 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 6: and she'll carry on until she does. 52 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 4: Adam dishonored her role, dishonored the upper house, the Senate. 53 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 4: But she's a repeat offender when it comes to that. 54 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 4: She's a fairly radical individual. Do you think anything's going 55 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 4: to come of this or is it just going to 56 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 4: get a few more headlines, which she loves. 57 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 3: She's a very very good. 58 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 4: Politicians politician when it comes to getting those headlines and 59 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 4: getting the sort of coverage, I think she's quite happy 60 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 4: to receive. 61 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly, she probably is. I think that the Prime 62 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: Minister should have condemned her. I think Penny Wong should 63 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: have come out and said something they haven't so far. Certainly, 64 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: I think if a senator on the right had said 65 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: anything like this, you would have afp knocking at the 66 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: door within a few hours and the fact that that 67 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: hasn't happened. I think that's very telling. But frankly, I'm 68 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: kind of more concerned about her mental health basically than 69 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: the parliament House. I think she's rather unhinged and the 70 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: rhetoric that she uses is so extreme. And also if 71 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: you look at the words she just said about, you know, 72 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: seeking justice for the Palestinians, well she can't do that 73 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: from the Senate in Canberra that it's just completely ridiculous. 74 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,839 Speaker 1: So she just jumps on these protest movements. They've really 75 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: got nothing to do with her. I mean, she's extrad have. 76 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 3: Made this line there. 77 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 4: If you go to any of these pro Palestinian rallies, 78 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 4: you'll see that they try to equate the so called 79 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 4: indigenous fight with a Palestinian fight. They say it's similar 80 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 4: themes of a colonialism stolen land, even though the Jewish 81 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 4: people are the indigenous people when it comes to Israel, 82 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 4: they make those sorts of arguments. So there is this 83 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 4: clear line between these two activist groups and they're almost 84 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 4: into changeable at this point. 85 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: Well, look, she's trying to make that analogy, but it's 86 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: a ridiculous analogy. There is no war there's no war 87 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: in Australia. There's no terrorism in Australia, you know from 88 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: the indigenous people here, and thank goodness for that. So 89 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: it's a ridiculous analogy, you know. I think that this, 90 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: you know, when the piece, you know, let's hope this 91 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: piece is permanent, that we'll probably talk about. So when 92 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: that settles down, I think this protest movement will also 93 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: settle down. 94 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 4: To now talking about that piece still the historic Palestinian 95 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 4: Palestinian Israel piece still broken by Donald Trump. He's achieved 96 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 4: what no other world leader has been able to do, 97 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 4: and he's done it with the input of the Arab world, 98 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 4: the Muslim world, including. 99 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 3: Countries like Indonesia. 100 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 4: Nick, there are a lot of commentators who have egg 101 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 4: on their face. Yeah, they could not understand the strategy 102 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 4: Donald Trump was employing. They couldn't understand why he puts 103 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 4: someone like Steve Whitkoff into the role he did as 104 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 4: his special envoid to the Middle East. 105 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 3: And they've been made fools off yet again. This keeps 106 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 3: happening when it comes to Donald Trump. 107 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, the things outside the box, doesn't it 108 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 6: And this is what you need in the world of diplomacy. 109 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 6: Obviously somebody had come in and just cut through all 110 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 6: the nonsense that you get from the officials and just say, well, actually, 111 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 6: what do we want to achieve? How are we going 112 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 6: to do it? I think this being able to bring 113 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 6: the Muslim world along with him is a tremendous achievement, 114 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,559 Speaker 6: and I think we're going to need that. Of course, 115 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 6: when it comes to bringing ultimately peace to Gaza, it's 116 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 6: going to need the involvement of Arab nations to get 117 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 6: in there as peacekeepers, which will be very difficult for them. 118 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 6: But yeah, it's great. I briefly thought that the weekend 119 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 6: Rita about turning up at that Palestinian rally with a 120 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 6: Maga hat on, you know, thinking that they'd all be 121 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 6: wearing them right now. 122 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 7: Perhaps not. 123 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 4: Oh well, no, I would not advise that you do that, Nick, 124 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 4: I care about your personal safety and that would not 125 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 4: be a good idea. Steve Wodkough, Donald Trump, you basically 126 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 4: have two real estate guys, Adam, who've been able to 127 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 4: achieve what diplomats and politicians for years, decades before them 128 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 4: really couldn't dream of achieving. They've turned the whole diplomacy 129 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 4: in that area on its head. Then, tie thinking with 130 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 4: the Abraham McCords and now this deal. 131 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, look, it's a fantastic deal and let's hope that 132 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: it sticks. I think it has been certainly some humiliation 133 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 1: for the traditional. 134 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 3: Diplomatic establishment, as you say. 135 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: And look, I think we saw that with former President 136 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: Barack Obama's tweet this week, when you know, he lavished 137 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: all his praise on the deal, but he didn't even 138 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: mention Donald Trump, which. 139 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 3: Was just quite athetic. 140 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: And so I do think that by this time next 141 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: year we should be hearing that Donald Trump is the 142 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: recipient of the next Nobel Prize for Peace. It should 143 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: be I mean, the cut off dates the thirtieth of 144 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: January or something, but. 145 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 4: It's already done several piece stills before the nomination period 146 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 4: was over, so he is I think this is his 147 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 4: eighth piece still this year. 148 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: Look, I mean, you know, this whole episode has just 149 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: made us reflect on how ridiculous the Nobel Prize for 150 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: Barack Obama was for peace. I can't even think what 151 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: he actually did. 152 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 3: He got a leg broker. 153 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 4: But it's fantastic that the woman who actually won the 154 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 4: prize heaped praise on Donald Trump on American television as well. 155 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 4: Which was I think very much unexpected for the interview. 156 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 4: In that case, Now let's talk about client a Change 157 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 4: and Energy Minister Crispo and one of our favorites on 158 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 4: this program. He's going on a green energy to ur 159 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 4: to China and India for high level meetings where he 160 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 4: will urge those two major polluters to invest in Labour's renewables. 161 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 3: Roll out, nigger. 162 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 4: What sort of reception will Crispo and receive Do you think. 163 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 6: They stopped laughing in China? They'll get a very warm 164 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 6: welcome in China Becausea's making a motza out of this 165 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 6: whole thing, right, isn't that China is the is the 166 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 6: renewable energy superpower. It's the only one that's there, certainly 167 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 6: not on Australia. They make all the stuff, they sell 168 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 6: it to us, and they would love to do direct 169 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 6: investment in it. They would love to own all our 170 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 6: solar palms, all our windmills, the whole lot, because they've 171 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 6: got strategic interest in it. So I think it's big. 172 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 6: We think very carefully before he does it. But this 173 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 6: does remind me a bit of the last days of 174 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 6: the Whitlam government in a way. Do you remember that 175 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 6: they went off to them at leads to see this 176 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 6: chap Kim Lanney, who turned out to be a total 177 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 6: shyster who was going to lend them some money. And 178 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 6: this is where Bowen's at with his renewable scheme. Nobody 179 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 6: wants to invest in the thing because it's a dog. 180 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 6: Nobody wants a bar of it, and he's having to 181 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 6: chase all around the world to try and find somebody 182 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 6: to put some money into it. 183 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 4: As long as it's not the Australian taxpayer putting more 184 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 4: money into it, Adam, because that seems to be what's happening. 185 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 4: And you've got Chris Bowen going on this trip as 186 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 4: a top official from his climate change department, makes the 187 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 4: most captain obvious of comments. You can imagine that Australia 188 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 4: is twenty thirty five emissions reduction target, as bold as 189 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 4: it is, is going to have little impact on global 190 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 4: warming if other nations do not so called pull their weight. 191 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 3: I don't think every other nation is. 192 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 4: As interested as impoverishing themselves and destroying their manufacturing sector 193 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 4: and sending their energy prices through the roofers. 194 00:09:58,280 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 3: Perhaps we are, Adam, No, that's true. 195 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: Look, it's only the very richest countries in the world 196 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: that can even do this for a time because they 197 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: can afford to countries like India cannot. And I think 198 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: I think the reception that Chris bow And is going 199 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: to receive an India is going to be, you know, 200 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: I guess a polite smile and some laughter in private, 201 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: I would say, because there's a country that cares about 202 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: the energy costs for its people, and so that's that's 203 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: the number one the number one priority. They're also you know, 204 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: the trip highlights the inconsistency. You know, we export so 205 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: much cold but it's okay for them to use it, 206 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: but it's not okay for us to use it. You know, 207 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: the emissions count for theirs but not for ours. I mean, 208 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: it just it just highlights the ridiculousness of you know, 209 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: the whole emissions framework. 210 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 4: So yeah, well yeah, I mean the whole Adani mine. 211 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, where what purpose that was supposed 212 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 4: to serve. I just can see thirty forty years from now, 213 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 4: maybe one hundred years from now, people looking back at 214 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 4: this entire period of time and developed nations and what 215 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 4: they did with their energy policy and just marveling at, well, 216 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 4: how we got there? How we kind of convinced ourselves 217 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 4: this was the right path to be on. 218 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: It's think I would say that we won't have to 219 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: wait that long. I think five years the wheels are 220 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: going to fall off. It's going to start hopeful than 221 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: I am sous. It is too expensive, there's too. 222 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 3: Many people to committed for that to happen. 223 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 4: Yet, now, before you go, we've got to talk about 224 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 4: Victoria at least a little bit to the Australian Industry 225 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 4: Group has warned that the state's economy is in fast decline, 226 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 4: with almost nine out of every ten jobs created being 227 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 4: backed by the government by visus into Allen government. 228 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 3: That's compared to pre pandemic. 229 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 4: Levels where just over three in every ten jobs was 230 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 4: government funded. 231 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 3: Nine out of ten. Goodness me Australian Industry Group Chief. 232 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 4: Executive Inns Wilcox rights, after years of anti business retric policy, 233 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 4: drift crippling regulations and ever rising taxes and energy bills, 234 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 4: Victoria has become the hardest state in Australia to do 235 00:11:58,679 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 4: business in. 236 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 3: Wow. 237 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 4: That means it's just not sustainable, is it? Adam to 238 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 4: have nine out of ten jobs government funded when that government, 239 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 4: when that state is in terrible debt, the biggest state 240 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 4: debt in the country by something. 241 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: So it's very sad. I mean, the state of Victoria 242 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: used to be a manufacturing powerhouse. That was all you know, 243 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 1: the private sector largely, it's certainly not now nine out 244 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: of ten really is very concerning, and no wonder we 245 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: have a productivity crisis because the productivity of these sorts 246 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: of jobs, of these government sponsored jobs, is very very low, 247 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: and so no wonder the productivity growth stats have been falling. 248 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: The solution, of course, is to cut regulation, cut taxes, 249 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: not just in Victoria, by the way, but all around 250 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: the country. Just remains to see what, you know, what's 251 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: going to happen. But these are easy votes for the 252 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: state government, you know, because once you're hiring someone, once 253 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: you have them on the payer, off with it directly 254 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: or indirectly, they are more likely to vote for you. 255 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: That's another sad aspect of this. 256 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 4: Yes, Nick, it may be economically idiotic, but it's good 257 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,119 Speaker 4: for labor. More people you have on the government payroll, 258 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 4: the more voters you're securing. 259 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 6: Well, exactly right, and this is a great victory of 260 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 6: cause for those people who keep protesting on various causes. 261 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 6: With the central theme bring down capitalism. They're about to 262 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 6: bring down capitalism, it seems in Victoria, which you know, 263 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 6: those of us outside the state, we might just shrug 264 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 6: our shoulders, except that because we're going to have to 265 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 6: pay for it, you know, we're the state. The federal 266 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 6: government will end up bail them out in whatever capacity 267 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 6: they have to do it, and you know, we're not 268 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 6: keen on that. We just like Victorians to sort of 269 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 6: lift their game a little bit and actually realize that 270 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 6: wealth creation is actually more fundamental to actually making the 271 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,239 Speaker 6: economy work than wealth distribution. 272 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 4: Niketa Adam Crichton, thank you so much for a time tonight. 273 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 4: Now to revelations that the Jacinta Alan government and the 274 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 4: Department of Education here in Victoria have been allowing students 275 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 4: to socially transition physician their gender in schools without the 276 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 4: knowledge or consent of their parents. The Australian reports State 277 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 4: Education Department documents show it is departmental policy for teachers 278 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 4: and other school staff to use the concept of mature 279 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 4: minor consent to enable the transitions. Joining me now is 280 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 4: head of Advocacy at Women's Foreign Australia, Stephanie Bastian Stephanie, 281 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 4: tell me what mature minor consent means and how it's 282 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 4: being used to essentially blindside parents. 283 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 8: Well, good Evening Reader. 284 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 9: It was primarily based on the Gillick competence level, a 285 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 9: case in the UK that determined that some miners could 286 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 9: access medical treatment things like contraception without parental consent. But 287 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 9: in Australia there's no minimum level of what an age 288 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 9: for the age a child can be to be determined 289 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 9: to be Gillick competent, So this is now being left 290 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 9: up to teachers and principles to de What we have 291 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 9: in Victoria is a gender education that's being rolled out. 292 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 8: Kids are being exposed to gender ideology from a very 293 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 8: young age. 294 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 9: In fact, for my daughter when we're living in Victoria, 295 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 9: it was four years old where they are encouraged to 296 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 9: try dressing up in the other genders dress ups, or 297 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 9: they were reading stories. So kids are being introduced to 298 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 9: dangerous gender ideology from a very young age. Then if 299 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 9: these conversations evolved with their teachers where they are curious 300 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 9: about it, the teachers can then determine whether or not 301 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 9: these children are mature miners and socially transition them in school. 302 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 9: The problem with this is that we know that the 303 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 9: majority of cases where children are socially transitioned, they then 304 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 9: move on to a pathway of medical transition which includes 305 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 9: cross sex hormones, puberty blockers, all which have serious health 306 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 9: implications for these children. So it's incredibly damning that they're 307 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 9: not keeping records on how many children. 308 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 8: Are being subjected to this. It's very intentional that they're not. 309 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 9: I've had teachers speak to me I've left the profession 310 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 9: because they spend more time ticking than they do actually teaching. 311 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 8: So the fact that they're not they're. 312 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:08,239 Speaker 9: Not keeping these records is absolutely intentional. 313 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 3: Stephanie. 314 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 4: It's not just the kids who are being indoctrinated, it 315 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 4: is the teachers, it is the bureaucracy. It is very 316 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 4: clear that radical gender theory has completely captured the Education 317 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 4: Department and it's all we are seeing as far as 318 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 4: the messaging on this important topic. Now, let's talk about 319 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 4: the Australian Human Rights Commission. They've named doctor Michelle Telfer 320 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 4: as a finalist for its Human Rights Medal. This is 321 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 4: a woman who is one of the leading advocates of 322 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 4: the affirmation model and child gender transitions in Australia. Stephanie, 323 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 4: what was your reaction when you heard of this nomination? 324 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 9: I thought it was utterly absurd and an indication of 325 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 9: the Australian Human Rights Commission protecting one of its so 326 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 9: and we know that they are pushing gender ideology everywhere. 327 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 9: I mean she was named just a matter of months 328 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 9: ago and a very damning judgment by Justice Strum where 329 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 9: a mother was trying to twelve year old boy on 330 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 9: puberty blockers without an official gender dysk warrior diagnosis. 331 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 8: Absolutely criminal. 332 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 9: She likened the restriction of medical affirming care for gender dysphoric. 333 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 8: Children, as you know, in line with Nazism. It's just 334 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 8: she's she's an absolute activist. 335 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 9: Her treatments have caused enormous damage everywhere. We've heard from 336 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 9: detransitioners like mel Jeffries and Courtney Colson. 337 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 8: Harm has followed with what she's rolled out to these 338 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 8: gender clinics. So it's appalling that they have nominated for 339 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 8: her for this award. 340 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 9: And if you compare the way that she is being 341 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 9: propped up compared to whistleblowers like Jillian Spencer, it's absolutely appalling. 342 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 4: Yes, doctor Gillian Spencer has put everything on the line 343 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 4: suspended from her for speaking out, for standing up for 344 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 4: vulnerable kids, confused kids going down often a dangerous path. 345 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 4: And meanwhile we've got activists who are getting glowing pieces 346 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 4: published by the National Broadcaster. Now let's stick with the 347 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 4: Australian Human Rights Commission. One of its commissioners, the Sex 348 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:27,959 Speaker 4: Discrimination Commissioner, no less, doctor Anacody, doesn't understand the term biological. 349 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 10: Men, lesbians, trans women, non binary. There are a range 350 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 10: of people who identify as women who are women. 351 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 3: Did you mean that biological males can be women. 352 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 10: Men? So I think we have different language that perhaps 353 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 10: you're using that I would use. So I don't understand 354 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 10: the term biological men. 355 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 3: There you go. 356 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 4: She doesn't understand the term biological men. Hackn She prefers 357 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 4: for her role as a sex Discrimination commissioner if she 358 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 4: doesn't understand the term biological men or biological women. 359 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 9: She can't and she's not And it's very clear that 360 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 9: she's there to push an agenda. I mean, the problem 361 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 9: with what she is doing is that her words hold weight. 362 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 9: She intervened in the Tickle versus Giggle case and said 363 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 9: that men who wanted to be pregnant should have the 364 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 9: same legal rights as women who are pregnant. She's an 365 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 9: absolute activist and her policies are causing harm. They're stripping 366 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 9: women of their human rights, and quite frankly, she should resign. 367 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 4: And the fact that she had nothing to say when 368 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 4: you have a male sexual predator, a man with male 369 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 4: genitalia who has committed unspeakable acts, being housed in a 370 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 4: women's prison with vulnerable women, and you've got the sex 371 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 4: Discrimination Commissioner the Australian Human Rights Commission saying nothing about 372 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 4: the human rights of those female prisoners is being infringed upon. 373 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 4: I mean that just tells you the entire Human Rights 374 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 4: Commission is not fit for purpose. 375 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 3: Stephanie Bastian, thank you so much for your time. Tonight. 376 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 3: Pleasure still to karma. 377 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 4: Lefties Losing It class the latest from the US, including 378 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 4: the unhinged behavior of a California governor. 379 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 3: Front runner Josh Hammer has the details. 380 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 4: You're watching the reader Panety Show, and it's time for 381 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 4: lefties losing it. Let's start the week with some cringe 382 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 4: content courtesy of Hollywood. Here is Jeff Fridges on Jimmy 383 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 4: Kimmel's awful program, reprising his dude character. 384 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 3: It does not go. 385 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 7: Well, yeah, ice, let's get ice off our streets. 386 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 3: And into our do not scare hi, right, right, So 387 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 3: let's just abide, abide together. Yes, we can do there. 388 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 3: Now that's just like my opinion, but that's a good one. 389 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 6: That's a pretty great opinion. 390 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 4: You can see why Jimmy Kimmel's ratings are circling the 391 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 4: drain after that little suspension bump. Not only is he miserable, 392 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 4: unfunny and cringe, but so his guests and talking about 393 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 4: miserable and unfunny. Let's check in on alleged comic Trevor 394 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 4: Noah who decided he was going to make jokes about 395 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 4: Charlie Kirk and his murder, and he did that by 396 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 4: lying about it. He might think this is edgy, but 397 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 4: it's just trash, unfunny, dumb, trash, lacking any whit or insight. 398 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 2: I wasn't going to say anything about Charlie Cook, but don't. 399 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 2: There's nothing funny about it. On now you tested me. 400 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 2: I mean, there's nothing funny about it. You can't say 401 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 2: there's nothing funny about it now, there's nothing fun No, 402 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,199 Speaker 2: don't say that because there's a comedian. I'll be like, 403 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 2: I'm sure, there's something funny about it. The guy was 404 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 2: shot while defending guns. Do you understand how I'm not 405 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 2: even writing that as a joke. As a human, you 406 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 2: have to admit that is an incongruous, funny thing that happens. 407 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 2: You are there on You're like on stage, You're like, 408 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 2: let me tell you why people should have guns. 409 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 3: Ah, what a pitiful jerk. 410 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 4: And for the record, Charlie wasn't killed defending the Second Amendment. 411 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 4: He was murdered as he was about to answer a 412 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 4: question about transkillers, about transactivists committing acts of violence. But 413 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 4: Trevor Noah didn't make that point, did he. If he 414 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 4: wanted to talk about irony, he would have talked about 415 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 4: the fact that Charlie was allegedly murdered by a transactivist 416 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 4: in a relationship with someone who is trans, who murdered 417 00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 4: Charlie as he was answering a question about transvice. Trevor 418 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 4: Noah doesn't have the guts. 419 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 3: To do that. 420 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 4: He just plays to the easy leftist, loser crowd who 421 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 4: don't want to laugh. They want to applaud right on 422 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 4: comments like trained seals. Now let's talk about or Fool's 423 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 4: affluent white female leftists. They are a growing problem and 424 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 4: they dominate Democrat ranks. Is there is something wrong with 425 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 4: Democrat women and it runs a lot deeper than the 426 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 4: craziness of the squad. 427 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 3: Let's look at the. 428 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 4: Woman who is the front runner to be the most 429 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,239 Speaker 4: powerful in America. She's the front runner to be the 430 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 4: next governor of California. Here's a brief highlights package of 431 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 4: her meltdown on CBS recently. 432 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 11: How would I need them in order to win? A man? 433 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 12: Well, unless you think you're going to get sixty percent 434 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 12: of the vote, you think you'll get sixty percent? 435 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 3: You don't think like this is. 436 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 11: A necessarily argumentative What is your question? It's the do 437 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 11: you need them to win? Part that I don't understand. 438 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 11: I'm happy to answer the question aswer. The question is 439 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 11: you haven't written an all answer. What I'm saying to 440 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 11: you is that well to those votes. Okay, so you 441 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 11: I don't want to keep doing this, I'm gonna call it. 442 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 11: Thank you. 443 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 3: You're not gonna do the interview. 444 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 11: With it not like this. I'm not not with seven 445 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 11: follow ups to every single question you ask. 446 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 8: Every other candidate has at care. 447 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 11: I don't care. 448 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 4: Yep, that's Katie Porter, and she's leading in the polls 449 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,479 Speaker 4: to take over California, the fourth biggest economy in the world. 450 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 4: Maybe that meltdown will change things, but she's been unhinged. 451 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 3: For a long time. 452 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 4: Here she is brating a staff member for getting in 453 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 4: her shot. 454 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 12: If we don't electrified or transportation sept for that, we're 455 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 12: going to lose more than half a million Californians dying 456 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 12: prematurely to air pollution and other problems, and the state 457 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 12: could lose. 458 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 8: You're out of my shot. 459 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 5: I wanted to say that that's actually incorrected. 460 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 13: It's not that it's electric vehicles, it's that if we 461 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 13: don't need the commitments the Paris climate. 462 00:24:58,640 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 3: Okay, it does. 463 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 8: Okay, you also were in my shot before that. Stay 464 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 8: out of my shot. 465 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 4: And let's hear this election night story from Katie Porter 466 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 4: involving her young daughter. 467 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 11: So on Election eight, I I want to pick up 468 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 11: my daughter from waterpolo practice. 469 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 3: And she's twelve, and she got. 470 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 14: In the courage. 471 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 11: She was crying. She said, mum, Trump won, Trump's gonna win, and. 472 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 3: What if they get reaped? 473 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 11: And I need to have an abortion. This is from 474 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 11: a twelve year old, My twelve year old daughter, and 475 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 11: so it was really a remainder of how scary this 476 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 11: time is for people. 477 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 3: Oh, Katie, you brought your family into this. 478 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 4: That was a mistake, because we're now going to check 479 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 4: in on what happened during your divorce proceedings. Yes, Katie's 480 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 4: ex husband, Matthew Hoffman, detailed that the Democrat frequently abused 481 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 4: him and threw all sorts of things at him during 482 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 4: their marriage. She once shattered a glass coffee pot on 483 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 4: their kitchen counter when she felt their house wasn't clean enough. 484 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 3: The ex husband also said. 485 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 4: She would not let me have a cell phone because 486 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 4: she said, you're too effing dumb to operate it. 487 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 3: And most incredibly, he said that Cape. 488 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 4: Porter once became so incensed by the way he was 489 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 4: making mashed potatoes that she raised a ceramic bowl of 490 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 4: steaming hot potatoes and dumped them on his head, burning 491 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 4: his scalp. And she's the front runner to be the 492 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 4: governor of California. Goodness me, Democrats are slow learners. And 493 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 4: talking about slow learners, let's check in with ABC, let's 494 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 4: have a look at Vice President jd Vance absolutely demolishing 495 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 4: George Stephanopoulos, the long term Democrat operative turned ABC News 496 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 4: anchor did not see this coming, and his reaction to it. 497 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 3: Was to abruptly and the interview. This is certainly a 498 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 3: lefty losing it. 499 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 14: I don't know what tape you're referring to, George. I 500 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 14: saw media reports that Tom Holman accepted a bribe. There's 501 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 14: no evidence that. And here's George, why fewer and fewer 502 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 14: people watch your program and why you're losing credibility because 503 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 14: you're talking for now five minutes with the Vice President 504 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 14: of the United States about this story regarding Tom Holme 505 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 14: and a story that I've read about, but I don't 506 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 14: even know the video that you're talking about. Meanwhile, low 507 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 14: income women can't get food because the Democrats and Chuck 508 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 14: Schumer have shut down the government. Right now, we're trying 509 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 14: to figure out how to pay our troops because Chuck 510 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 14: Schumer has shut down the government. You were focused on 511 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 14: a bogus story. You're insinuating criminal wrongdoing against a guy 512 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 14: who has done nothing wrong, instead of focusing on the 513 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 14: fact that our country is struggling because our government's shut down. 514 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 14: Let's talk about the real issues, George. I think the 515 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 14: American people would benefit much more from that than from 516 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 14: you going down some weird left wing rabbit hole where 517 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 14: the facts clearly show that Tom Holman didn't engage in 518 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 14: any criminal wrongdoing. 519 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 13: It's not a weird left wing rabbit hole. I didn't 520 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 13: insinuate anything. I asked you whether Tom Holman accepted fifty 521 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 13: thousand dollars as was heard on an audiotape real by 522 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 13: the FBI in September twenty twenty four, and you did 523 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 13: not answer the question. Thank you for your time this morning. 524 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 3: I said that I build up next. We'll be right back. 525 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 4: Joining me now is Newsweek Senior editor at Large and 526 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 4: Article three Project Senior Council Josh Hammer. Josh jd Vance 527 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 4: had this to say about that interview posted on X 528 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 4: Peace in the Middle East China threatening critical supply chains, 529 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 4: government shutdown. 530 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 3: No, George doesn't care about that. 531 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 4: He is here to focus on the real story, a 532 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 4: fake scandal involving Tom Homan. 533 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 3: I've got to say, Josh, I don't. 534 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 4: Know why George quit that interview so abruptly. 535 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 3: Surely he's not so sensitive. 536 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 4: About JD calling out his dwindling audience numbers. 537 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 5: Yeah read AAABC. Let's not forget was the media organization 538 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 5: that hosted the vice presidential debate between JD. Vans and 539 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 5: Tim Walls AAA truly loathsome and pathetic attempt at a 540 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 5: mighter read debate. It that was actually probably the single 541 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 5: worst moderated debate and at least my inestimation of the 542 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 5: entire cycle last year. So they've shown their true colors, 543 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 5: I mean, frankly, I mean frankly when it comes to 544 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 5: the corporate media here in the United States, who has 545 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 5: not shown their true colors. I mean CBS News making 546 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 5: a very interesting decision and hiring Barry Weiss to be 547 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 5: editor in chief. We'll see how that how that plays out. 548 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 5: But ABC certainly doubling down on stupid and Jady Vance 549 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 5: is totally right by the way, which is that this 550 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 5: is this is this is exactly why all these networks 551 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 5: are just losing ratings. ABC is also Jimmy Kimmel's network. 552 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 5: That we saw what happened with Jimmy Kimmel recently when 553 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 5: you had when you had Sinclair Nextstar on various other 554 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 5: affiliates that that side that briefly dropped his show from 555 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 5: the air. So I you know, you know, this is 556 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 5: why more Americans in general, especially in my generation, millennials, 557 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 5: gen Z. This is this is why so many people 558 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 5: come up without even having access to TV. The people 559 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 5: these days get their news on the Internet, They get 560 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 5: their news on social media. Here, I mean very people 561 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 5: are watching ABC, NBC and CBS other than boomer sixty 562 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 5: five and up there. But Jade Vance is not a boomer. 563 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 5: Jennie Vance is very much of by and for a 564 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 5: young a younger generation. That's one of the many reasons, 565 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 5: Rita why I was so personally excited and gung ho 566 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 5: about his political candidacy in the first place there, and 567 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 5: I think it's one of his major appeals moving forward 568 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 5: as big barrelhead towards twenty twenty eight. 569 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 4: And ABC had to pay Donald Trump a sizable amount 570 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 4: for some of the misreporting, misinformation, deliberate disinformation, whatever you 571 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 4: want to call it. 572 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 8: Now. 573 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 4: I featured Katie Porter earlier. She has a long history 574 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 4: of erratic behavior, under performance, all sorts of staffing issues, 575 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 4: and yet she's the front runner to be the next 576 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 4: governor of California, the fourth biggest economy in the world. 577 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 3: Josh, it's extraordinary. 578 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, California. I'm speaking of doubling down on stupid, right, 579 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 5: I mean, were to say how ABC is doubling down stupid? 580 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 5: I mean, what is going to take for California to 581 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 5: sober up at this point? I mean, frankly, the fact 582 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 5: that California, Rita is going down the rabbit holidays. I 583 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 5: have plenty of fellow conservatives here in the United States 584 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 5: who are like, oh, California, California. Well, look, in theory, 585 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 5: I would like to salvage California. Call me idealistic, call 586 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 5: me crazy. California is one massive, it's a lot of people. 587 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:17,239 Speaker 5: Two it's beautiful. Three it's a mass of economy. So 588 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 5: in theory, I would really love for Californians to come 589 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 5: to their freaking census and to stop voting for absolute 590 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 5: fools to the governor's mansion and the state legislature and Sacramento. 591 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 5: But unfortunately, Rita. You can't help a people that does 592 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 5: not want to help themselves. This is the exact same 593 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 5: mentality that I find myself having over and over again 594 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 5: when it comes to the crisis in Europe. I very 595 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 5: much have enjoyed my visits to Europe over the years. 596 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 5: I enjoy going to the classic cathedrals and the old streets. 597 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 5: It's very different than when we have here in the 598 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 5: United States. There I would like for Europe to be preserved, 599 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 5: but the Europeans don't want to help themselves when it 600 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 5: comes to immigration from cultures that simply do not mess 601 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 5: with their own and so forth. There so same apparently 602 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 5: with California. Californians don't want to help themselves. I genuinely 603 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 5: wish they would. But if they that they're going to 604 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 5: get any better governance after Gavin Newsom than Katie Freakin 605 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 5: Porter than you know, I mean, I've got some news 606 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 5: for them, and that's simply not going to be the case. 607 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 5: I wish the California would get back to the state 608 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,479 Speaker 5: that was governed once upon a time by Ronald Reagan. 609 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 5: There was a long stream. Even Arnold Schwarzenegger not is 610 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 5: out there conservative, but a modern Republican. It wasn't that 611 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 5: long ago. Really, the California was actually politically not crazy. 612 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 5: It's been left leaning for a long time, but it 613 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 5: was not crazy, not that long ago. There's a fairly 614 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 5: recent trend in the fortune. It's a really despardly one. 615 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 4: Now we've been covering the j Jones scandal on this program. 616 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 4: I am more than most of the US media, whoever 617 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 4: some of them have devoted zero time to the Democrats' 618 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 4: Attorney general nominee for the great State of Virginia out 619 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 4: sending horrendous messages about wanting to see a Republican colleague 620 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 4: dead along with the man's young children. It is just 621 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 4: incredible that he's still in the race, Josh, and have 622 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 4: a look at these Democrats. They're asked whether they're willing 623 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 4: to condemn J. Jones and ask him to drop out 624 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 4: of the race. 625 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:06,719 Speaker 8: He has apologized. 626 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 7: I wish other people in public life put sincerely apologize 627 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 7: for stuff. 628 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 3: So no, I still am a supporter. 629 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 15: Quick question, do you think J Jones should drop out 630 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 15: of the Virginia race? Cragy? The AG candidate in Virginia, 631 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 15: J Jones should drop out of the race after those 632 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 15: violent texts that came out what he was saying about 633 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 15: the former House speaker in Virginia. 634 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 4: I you know, being somebody who has in my family, you. 635 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 15: Know, political violence is a real thing and it's a 636 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 15: big use. Do you think the Virginia AG candidate J 637 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 15: Jones should leave the race at the moment? Thank you? Okay, 638 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 15: did you see those texts though. 639 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 3: That he sent? 640 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 15: The violent text messages pop out of the race. Senator 641 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 15: j Jones, Senator, do you have any comment from j 642 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 15: Jonesen when you get back to the office. 643 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 4: Are there you go, Josh, Bernie, Chuck, the rest of 644 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 4: the lawmakers there, Most of them didn't even want to 645 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 4: address the question. 646 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 3: Is that good enough? 647 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 8: No? 648 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 5: I mean, it's obviously Naiven remotely close to good enough. Rita. 649 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 5: This is the problem with the current Democratic Party in 650 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 5: a nutshells that they have this absolute, fanatical, radical, decivilizational, 651 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 5: anti American, burn it all down flank. I call them 652 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,280 Speaker 5: the shock troops of the Democratic Party. That's the Black 653 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 5: Lives Matter, Antifa street thug wing of the Democratic Party movements. 654 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 3: And they are. 655 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 5: Increasingly and extremely violence prone movements. And unlike the Summer 656 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 5: of Love of twenty twenty, where it was mostly limited 657 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 5: to looting, in arson and vandalism and property crimes, it's 658 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 5: increasingly becoming not just property crimes but violence. I mean, 659 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 5: we saw a direct line, a direct line from all 660 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 5: of the Biden Harris administrations, various threats about how Donald 661 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,280 Speaker 5: Trump and MAGA Republicans represented and existential threat to democracy. 662 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 5: Do you remember that that infamous speech that Joe Biden 663 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 5: gave and filled in Philadelphia three years ago. So it 664 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 5: was over labored weekend here with the red backdrop. I mean, 665 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 5: it was giving off, frankly nineteen thirties German style vibes. 666 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 5: And I could draw a direct line from that to 667 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 5: people moustile, people trying to assassinate Donald J. 668 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 3: Trump. 669 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 5: I'm not saying that anyone other than the dire culpability 670 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 5: goes the shooter. But the reality is these things don't 671 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,399 Speaker 5: happen in the vacuum. There's a shocky recent poll out 672 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 5: of Harvard University that showed that over thirty percent, over 673 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 5: thirty percent of Harvard students said that they could potentially 674 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 5: see a world in which they could justify acts of 675 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 5: violence to prevent a speaker from speaking on campus. These 676 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 5: are the kind of things, whether it's that, whether it's J. 677 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,800 Speaker 5: Jones fantasizing about committing political violence. This is the issue. 678 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not exaggerating. This literally is the issue 679 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 5: that could bring this republic to the brink. It really is. 680 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 5: I mean, when Americans or any people who are a 681 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 5: living in a self governing republic, when you cease to 682 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 5: be able to settle your political disputes, your moral disputes, 683 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 5: your policy agreements. When you lose the ability to settle 684 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 5: that at the ballot box with the pen, with the keyboard, 685 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 5: the megaphone, and so forth, and instead your resorts to 686 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 5: the rifle and bullets and the knife, that is how 687 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 5: publics die. This is really no joke. There's no exaggeration there, 688 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,720 Speaker 5: and I find it absolutely appalling. I'll be it wholly 689 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 5: unsurprising that so few Democrats, other than perhaps Cena or 690 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 5: Kelly of Arizona, are willing to say anything whatsoever about jajas. 691 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 16: Well. 692 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 3: Let's talk about Portland. 693 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:26,240 Speaker 4: Now, we've certainly seen political violence in that place. Donald 694 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 4: Trump is determined to clean it. Arpisays it's like a 695 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 4: war zone. It's in decay, it's crime riddled. The Oregon 696 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 4: governor obviously doesn't agree. The socialist city council doesn't agree. 697 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 3: But even the New. 698 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:43,359 Speaker 4: York Times Josh is finally questioning the wisdom of far 699 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 4: left rule and asking what happens when socialists are in charge? 700 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 4: Portland offers a glimpse, Josh. Let's take a glimpse at Portland. 701 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 4: This is the Third world conditions you have to negotiate 702 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:56,800 Speaker 4: to reach. 703 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,839 Speaker 3: Barnes and Noble at the Lloyd Center. 704 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 9: Avoy Center and a park parking garage and never even 705 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 9: go up the stairs into the mall. 706 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:06,919 Speaker 8: And this is what is here. 707 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 3: I shouldn't smell. 708 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:14,359 Speaker 4: It smells slapee and tea. 709 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 5: Watch yourself. 710 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 11: So this is the only way to get upstairs if 711 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 11: you're parked right here, to get to Lloyd. 712 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 4: Center, Josh, I'll type that back off. Being to third 713 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 4: world countries, they normally in a lot bitter shape than that. 714 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 5: You know, Portland, once upon a time was a shiny 715 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:40,240 Speaker 5: example of what a forward looking and forward thinking American 716 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,959 Speaker 5: city might look like. I'm thinking back thirty forty years ago, 717 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 5: but at this point I think you're right, Rita. I've 718 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 5: actually never been to Portland, but based on all that 719 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 5: I've been able to glean there, my friend Andy know 720 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 5: has been ground zero with the Portland Antifa riots for 721 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,399 Speaker 5: years and years now. Based on all that I've seen, 722 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 5: I think you can make a very strong argument that 723 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 5: Portland is in worse condition on a day to day basis, 724 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 5: from a cost of living, from a quality of life, 725 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 5: from a crime perspective than your typical Sub Saharan African city. 726 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 5: I mean, that's essentially what it looks like to me. 727 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 5: But Portland's also become a shiny example, unfortunately, of a 728 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 5: broader national trend, which is, you have these cities that 729 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 5: are governed in politically monolithic fashion by Democrats, year after year, 730 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 5: decade after decade. On thinking of them, cities like Baltimore, Maryland, Detroit, Michigan, 731 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 5: Saint Louis, Missouri, Portland's. So many of these cities just 732 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,240 Speaker 5: have mayor after mayor after mayor who are of one party, 733 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,479 Speaker 5: one party only. Chicago another big example there. I can't 734 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 5: think of another. I can't think of a single example. 735 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,720 Speaker 5: I can't, I literally cannot think of a single example 736 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 5: the top of my head of an American city that 737 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:45,399 Speaker 5: has had monolithic, uniparty democratic governance for decades and has 738 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 5: been better off because of it. But the cherry on top, 739 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 5: cherry on top is because the New York Times here, 740 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 5: this is the article they're saying, Oh, here's socialism at. 741 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 3: Work, dude. 742 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 5: You guys have covered for Zooran Mamdani. The New York 743 00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 5: Times has offered all sorts from apology for Zoran freakin' Mamdani, 744 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 5: a guy I would argue for whom socialist is actually 745 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 5: far two kinds. This is a guy who literally quotes 746 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,359 Speaker 5: Carl Marxist Communist manifesto. He is a diet in the 747 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 5: Wall Marxist community. I think socialist is genuinely not accurate. 748 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 5: He's an actual literal communist. So the New York Times 749 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 5: a month before the election, that's probably going to put 750 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:27,280 Speaker 5: this hamas supporting pro g Hodge comedy in the mayoral office. There. Really, 751 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 5: you guys are crying foul this lay in the game. 752 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 5: You had a really long time the New York Times 753 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 5: back Democratic primary to destry stopping there and now it's 754 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,319 Speaker 5: so ridiculous. But ultimately, Rita, you reaput you so and 755 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 5: then and the people of New York are think are 756 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 5: tragically going to reap what they sew here and it's 757 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 5: going to look a lot like Portland sooner and then 758 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 5: later if you're. 759 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 4: Now, before you go, Josh, President Trump will address the 760 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 4: Israeli Parliament the Kanesse about his triumph in brokering a 761 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,839 Speaker 4: historic pace. Still, this is going to be something else 762 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,720 Speaker 4: going to be talked about for years is to come. 763 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 4: But I want to ask you about some of the 764 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:08,760 Speaker 4: anti Israeli sentiment that has been normalized in America. Listen 765 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 4: to this discussion between Democrat congresswomen and Rashida Talaibe and 766 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,320 Speaker 4: Hassan Pika. 767 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 3: Listen to how they talk about Israel. 768 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,840 Speaker 16: It is absolutely a violent apartheid state. 769 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:26,880 Speaker 7: No, it's an ideology. Zionism is an exterminationist ideology built 770 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 7: around no religious supremacist values. So when people say, like, oh, well, 771 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,879 Speaker 7: you know, I'm a liberal Signist, like I want there 772 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 7: to be a. 773 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 3: Jewish Yes, so many I want there. 774 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 7: I'm a liberal Signist. 775 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 8: I want there to be a Jewish. 776 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 7: Eth No state, I'm like, okay, Like, what do you mean. 777 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 7: It's like saying you're like a liberal Nazi, you want 778 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 7: an Aryan majority eth No state. 779 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 4: Josh, I'm going to ask you to be succinct. I'm 780 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 4: sure there's plenty you could say, But what's your response 781 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 4: to that? 782 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 5: Yeahda As the great Dentnis Praiker always says, you know, 783 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 5: how many Muslim majority countries are in the world, and 784 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 5: the Jews are not entitled to one tiny state to 785 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 5: run the size of New Jersey. I mean, it's just 786 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 5: so utterly preposterous, you know. Unfortunately, Rita, I wish that 787 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 5: the Israel issue were solely an issue where the left 788 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 5: is crazy, But there are some fringe voices on the 789 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 5: rights that are getting way out of hand on this 790 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 5: stuff as well. I'm not sure if this reached Australia, 791 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 5: but I was actually accused this past week while I 792 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 5: was offline for a Jewish holiday by Canvas Owens of 793 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 5: being complicit in the assassination of my friend Charlie Kirk. 794 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 5: I kidding not, that is literally what she accused me of. 795 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 5: It is an insane, deranged, evil thing to say. And 796 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 5: the only reason that she is doing this, The only 797 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 5: reason is because I myself am Jewish and supporter of Israel, 798 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 5: and it complicates their narrative that Charlie Kirk actually was 799 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 5: a firm dying the will, friend of the Jews and 800 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 5: support of visils. So it's on the very very fringes 801 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 5: of the quote unquote far right, and I'm going to 802 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 5: try I want to call Candice Owens the far right there, 803 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 5: but it's very much in the mainstream left as well, 804 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:53,839 Speaker 5: and it's a big pum that we have to dress 805 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 5: all across the political spectrum. 806 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 3: Josh, just on Candace Owens. 807 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 4: There are plenty of conspiracy theories right now about Charlie 808 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 4: Kirk's murder, about whether the official narrative is accurate. How 809 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 4: did Joe and I start being mentioned in these conspiracy theories. 810 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 5: It's not entirely clear. I think the alleged series of 811 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 5: events is that I was in this very act of 812 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,439 Speaker 5: WhatsApp chat with Charlie Kirk where he was blowing off 813 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 5: Team Inventing the day before his assassination about how he 814 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 5: lost it two million dollars a year turning Point USA 815 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 5: donation from a prominent Jewish donor. And then Kendace took 816 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:31,799 Speaker 5: this tweet of mine from a day or two before 817 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 5: Chili assassination, which is literally about an entirely different topic 818 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 5: about the horrific savage butchery of our arena Zaruska on 819 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,279 Speaker 5: this Charlotte light rail, and I was quote tweeting a 820 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 5: tweet from Donald Trump about public executions, and I said, 821 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 5: based and Kenna's own, So this totally out of complex. 822 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,399 Speaker 5: He was like, oh my god, Josh Amberson is foreshadowing 823 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 5: the assassination of Charlie Kirk for turning against Israel. I mean, 824 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 5: it's contemptible. I'm a lawyer. I know this is likely 825 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 5: defamatory conduct. We're looking into possible legal there, and I'll 826 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:01,319 Speaker 5: keep you a price of. 827 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 4: It, Josh, Amma, thanks for your ta Thank you. Still 828 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 4: to come the latest on Prince Andrew's growing woes Kinsey's Schofield. 829 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 3: Joins me next. 830 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 4: Welcome back joining me now celebrity and royal commandat at 831 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:33,240 Speaker 4: Cain see Schofield Kinsey. Sources close to Harry and Meghan 832 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:37,400 Speaker 4: have revealed they were shocked by Meghan's solo Paris trip 833 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 4: last week, saying her latest relaunch left them deeply concerned 834 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 4: about her marriage to Prince Harry. 835 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 3: What more can you tell me? That's right? 836 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 16: This is coming from the Daily Mail that say the 837 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:53,359 Speaker 16: Sussexes both but especially Harry, would typically turn down opportunities 838 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,360 Speaker 16: in Paris because it's where his mother tragically died. We 839 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 16: learned over the weekend that Meghan wasn't even invited to 840 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 16: the Balanciaga fashion show. She personally reached out to the 841 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 16: designer and asked if she could attend, completely dismissive of 842 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:10,240 Speaker 16: Prince Harry's feelings. Then, following that bizarre trip to Paris, 843 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,400 Speaker 16: as she accepted a Humanitarian of the Year award for 844 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,960 Speaker 16: selling jam, she removed HER's hand from her back on 845 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 16: the red carpet and then the two were spotted going 846 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,799 Speaker 16: their separate ways throughout New York during their visit. I 847 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 16: think this is a legitimate observation. When Prince Harry won't 848 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,279 Speaker 16: shut up about security. 849 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,440 Speaker 3: That is very interesting. Indeed. 850 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 4: Now Meghan Markel is going to be joining former Vice 851 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:40,319 Speaker 4: President Kamala Harris and Selena Gomes in Washington, DC this 852 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:46,360 Speaker 4: week for the Fortune Magazine's annual Most Powerful Women's Summit, 853 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 4: where she will discuss her lifestyle brand as ever and 854 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 4: talk about navigating entrepreneurship in the public eye and building 855 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 4: a brand that will endure. I mean, I don't know 856 00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 4: how she can do that because this brand was created 857 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:00,879 Speaker 4: three minutes ago. 858 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:01,760 Speaker 3: Kinsey. 859 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,319 Speaker 4: If this is the best most Powerful Women list that 860 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 4: can put together, then it doesn't say much for this publication. 861 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,760 Speaker 3: I mean, really, Meghan Michael. 862 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 4: How is sheki powerful? How is she an inspiration to women? 863 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,920 Speaker 4: She married someone famous? From what I can work. 864 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,239 Speaker 16: Out, Oh my gosh, is that not the truth She's 865 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,400 Speaker 16: Is she the most powerful in the Chicken Coop and Montecito? 866 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 16: Because that I could understand? Yeah, you know, the idea, 867 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:34,360 Speaker 16: the tig American Revere Orchard archetypes, Confessions of a female founder, 868 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,799 Speaker 16: The British Royal family. These are all just some of 869 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 16: the opportunities that Megan markle quit Cold Turkey. What can 870 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 16: she teach us about building a brand that will endure 871 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,840 Speaker 16: her rebrands are giving us whiplash over here. But I 872 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,360 Speaker 16: will say it's interesting that Megan has spent such a 873 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:53,799 Speaker 16: significant amount of time away from home. Between Paris now 874 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 16: she's heading to Washington, d C. After telling Netflix cameras 875 00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 16: that being away from her children made her physically ill. 876 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, and so many of these trips, like you said, 877 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,440 Speaker 4: are unnecessary. It's not like this is part of her business. 878 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:09,399 Speaker 4: This is part of. 879 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,399 Speaker 3: Charitable work she's doing. 880 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 4: She's basically swaning around, going to fashion shows and collecting 881 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,480 Speaker 4: awards she doesn't really deserve. 882 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 3: So you know, do you really need to be doing 883 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:21,160 Speaker 3: that now? 884 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:26,440 Speaker 4: To revelations at Prince Andrew allegedly emailed pedophile Jeffrey Epstein 885 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 4: long after he claimed to have cut all ties, telling 886 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,399 Speaker 4: him they would write out their scandal together and would 887 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,399 Speaker 4: get to play some more soon, just a day after 888 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,799 Speaker 4: the notorious photo of him with Gilaine Maxwell and his 889 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:48,880 Speaker 4: sex accuser Virginia Roberts was first published, Kinsey, How. 890 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 3: Accurate is this? 891 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 4: How legitimate is this because if he's posting things like 892 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 4: play some More soon to Jeffrey Epstein, I mean that. 893 00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 3: Is just gross. 894 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 16: I mean, I'm pretty confident in report it's coming from 895 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 16: the Sun. You know, Prince Andrew sent that message on 896 00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,560 Speaker 16: February twenty, twenty eleven. And that's significant because Andrew has 897 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,680 Speaker 16: previously insisted that he traveled to New York on December 898 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,120 Speaker 16: twenty ten to break up with his friend Jeffrey Epstein 899 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 16: and to end that association. But you know, I do 900 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 16: think that these emails are likely credible. It's from the 901 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,560 Speaker 16: same source that brought us those Fergie emails a few 902 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:28,400 Speaker 16: weeks ago where she's apologizing profusely to Epstein. 903 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:29,640 Speaker 3: And it's just. 904 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,120 Speaker 16: Further proof that Andrew has no business showing his face 905 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 16: around the British royal family. 906 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:34,880 Speaker 3: If he would lie. 907 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,480 Speaker 16: About the timeline, what else is he capable of lying about? 908 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:45,160 Speaker 4: Now, we spoke last week about confirmation that Katie Perry 909 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 4: and former Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau are dating. We've 910 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,680 Speaker 4: all seen those photos now, the loved up couple spotted 911 00:47:52,760 --> 00:48:00,080 Speaker 4: kissing and canoodling on Perry's twenty four meter yacht Kinsey. 912 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 3: Well, I think they're built for each other. 913 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:06,279 Speaker 4: I've got to say that both vacuous, they're both self obsessed, 914 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,320 Speaker 4: and I think they make a perfect match. 915 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,160 Speaker 16: And they kind of look like siblings. Yeah, I mean, 916 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:15,919 Speaker 16: apparently climate change matters. 917 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, has she been to Cuba as well? 918 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:19,800 Speaker 15: Exactly? 919 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,719 Speaker 16: I mean apparently climate only change only matters until the 920 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,880 Speaker 16: Champagne's child in the yard is fueled romance on the 921 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,480 Speaker 16: high seas of hypocrisy. You know, Trudeau and Katie are 922 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:36,960 Speaker 16: both climate change warriors and proving that liberal guilt sinks 923 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 16: faster than their carbon footprint. Besides that, though I am 924 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:43,080 Speaker 16: enjoying watching Trudeau's midlife crisis that it's like the best 925 00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 16: reality show ever. 926 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:51,719 Speaker 4: Now, Jennifer Lopez, She's had a few missteps recently. 927 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:53,160 Speaker 3: She's had a bunch. 928 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:58,359 Speaker 4: Of flops, awful movies, canceled concerts, and her latest one 929 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,200 Speaker 4: and kiss Off. This I a Woman is expected to 930 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,799 Speaker 4: open to a measly two million dollars in sales by 931 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,320 Speaker 4: the end of the holiday weekend. 932 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:08,920 Speaker 3: That's not great, is it, Kinsey? 933 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:10,160 Speaker 11: No? 934 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,360 Speaker 16: And I'm curious about your opinion here, because there's this 935 00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,120 Speaker 16: interesting piece in the New York Post about this, and 936 00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,479 Speaker 16: the author says negative associations are tough to shake off, 937 00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 16: and he mentions Jaylo's earlier career becoming this lovable star 938 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,080 Speaker 16: in rom coms like The Wedding Planner, Made in Manhattan 939 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,120 Speaker 16: and Monster in Law. But this negative associations are tough 940 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,600 Speaker 16: to shake off. He's like saying that now she's become 941 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 16: associated with flops. I think it's ditty, and I think 942 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 16: it's the fact that she did not speak out. Yes, 943 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 16: she's got drama in her personal life, but I also 944 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,560 Speaker 16: think people really were disappointed that she didn't speak out 945 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,920 Speaker 16: against p Ditty throughout the height of that chaos. 946 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,160 Speaker 4: I think that had a lot to do with it. 947 00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:54,680 Speaker 4: I think her on again, off again a relationship with 948 00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,319 Speaker 4: Ben Affleck. They're just the impression that she's not a 949 00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 4: very nice person. There's a lot of people who've come 950 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,319 Speaker 4: out and talked about their interactions with her and how 951 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,840 Speaker 4: she treated them. There's a lot of will smith about 952 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,200 Speaker 4: what happened with her. They're very much loved and seen 953 00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:12,440 Speaker 4: in a particular light, and that all just turned on 954 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:16,280 Speaker 4: its head and now I do have these negative connotations 955 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 4: and it definitely is impacting their professional life as well. 956 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,880 Speaker 4: Just quickly, before you go, tell me about California Governor 957 00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,839 Speaker 4: Gavin Newsom trying to get Joe Rogan to talk to him, 958 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:34,000 Speaker 4: either on Joe Rogan's podcast or perhaps possibly on newsm's podcast, 959 00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,280 Speaker 4: How well is this little campaign going for the governor? 960 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,600 Speaker 16: This guy is so irrelevant and it absolutely kills him. 961 00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 16: He goes on a reality stars podcast and starts cursing, 962 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,880 Speaker 16: and you know, he's just so desperate for headlines, and 963 00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,239 Speaker 16: he challenges Joe Rogan. He wants to go on Joe 964 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,880 Speaker 16: Rogan's podcast, because Rogan's podcast is the core podcast, not 965 00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:56,360 Speaker 16: Newsome's podcast audience. 966 00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but so he's basically just bagulately. 967 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,760 Speaker 4: Well, I tell you, I can understand why Joe Rogan 968 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,040 Speaker 4: wants to have nothing to do with him. 969 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:09,239 Speaker 3: Didn't Joe Rogan. 970 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:13,840 Speaker 4: Flee California because of Gavin Newsom's policies, And it wasn't 971 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:18,840 Speaker 4: just COVID era policies, it's everything else that he's overseen 972 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:24,280 Speaker 4: in California. You've got the crime rate, the massive gap 973 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,240 Speaker 4: between rich and poor, and all the impact that has. 974 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:31,319 Speaker 4: It's just a dysfunctional state. And that's why so many 975 00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:35,960 Speaker 4: Californians have left for places like Texas and Tennessee and Florida, 976 00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,640 Speaker 4: Kinsey Schofield, always a pleasure. Thanks for your time tonight, 977 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,160 Speaker 4: and that's all the time we have. I'll see you 978 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,560 Speaker 4: tomorrow night at eleven up. Next it's Newsnight.