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Speaker 1: Let's talk about this as an idea put out by

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Speaker 1: the Committee of Adelaide to pay young people a bonus

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Speaker 1: to stay in South Australia, to stay in essay bonus

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Speaker 1: it may or may not be cash, but incentives such

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Speaker 1: as cheap housing or rent. It'll be aimed at twenty

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Speaker 1: through to twenty five year olds, both locals and international students.

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Speaker 1: And it's the old brain drain argument. We don't want

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Speaker 1: to lose young people here in South Australia to the

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Speaker 1: Eastern States, and we don't. We've never wanted to lose

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Speaker 1: young people. But because companies headquarter in Sydney, Melbourne and

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Speaker 1: even Brisbane, well that's where the jobs are, along with

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Speaker 1: the bright lights and a big town feeling, and that's

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Speaker 1: exciting to young people. Off they go. And it almost

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Speaker 1: had me back in the day about the excitement of

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Speaker 1: moving into state as a young man, but deep ties,

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Speaker 1: family and friends kept me here, along with the fact

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Speaker 1: on you Adelaide was a more affordable place to live.

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Speaker 1: You only had to talk to people who had been

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Speaker 1: inter state and they tell you the stories about how

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Speaker 1: much rent they were paying and how long it took

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Speaker 1: them to drive anywhere. And this is forty years ago,

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Speaker 1: and in my day we lived near the beach. That

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Speaker 1: was pretty cool. I had an okay job at the time,

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Speaker 1: so thumbs up here I stayed. Governments have tried to

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Speaker 1: entice people who have moved primarily East, back to Adelaide

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Speaker 1: over the years. I remember the Olsen government had to

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Speaker 1: bring them home campaign in the late nineteen nineties and

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Speaker 1: the joke in Sydney was, well, we'll just warm up

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Speaker 1: the Cessna. We're seen by many in the easters somewhere.

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Speaker 1: You fly over to get to Perth and you know,

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Speaker 1: almost you'd say, well so much the better, don't come

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Speaker 1: and clutter up our city. But you know, and I

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Speaker 1: know those who come here for a weekend are amazed

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Speaker 1: by Adelaide, and they do return, and some even move

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Speaker 1: for here. A bit like that old mad ad who

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Speaker 1: brought his friends over. He couldn't believe what he'd been missing,

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Speaker 1: remember that terrible ad campaign a few years ago. But

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Speaker 1: paying people money to stay is a bit over the top,

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Speaker 1: and to me it's smacks of desperation. It's like an

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Speaker 1: admission of defeat that Adelaide isn't good enough to compete.

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Speaker 1: But we can't hold a can to Melbourne and Sydney. Well,

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Speaker 1: in some respects you know, we can't. But in others

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Speaker 1: like liveability, cost of living, ease of moving around, we're

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Speaker 1: head and shoulders ahead. And if there's areas we need

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Speaker 1: to improve and well, let's spend the money here to

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Speaker 1: improve in those areas. We've got so much going for us, space, defense,

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Speaker 1: the food bowl of Australia, our wine regions the best

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Speaker 1: in the world. Let are and the rest of the

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Speaker 1: country startups at Lot fourteen establish startups like red Art

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Speaker 1: now employing hundreds of people. We're so good at what

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Speaker 1: we do well. Paying people to stay I think is

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Speaker 1: insulting and after getting the money or the incentives, who's

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Speaker 1: to say they don't leave anyway? We should be investing

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Speaker 1: money in areas where we need to improve or improve

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Speaker 1: further what we already do well. Otherwise, well, it's money

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Speaker 1: down the brain drain. And mums and dads love to

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Speaker 1: hear from you. Should your kids stay or go? Did

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Speaker 1: they stay or go? What was the experience? Should they

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Speaker 1: have been paid to stay? Love to hear your thoughts.

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Speaker 1: Eight Double two to three D from the Committee for

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Speaker 1: Adelaide Strategy and Project manager Naomi Marshy Naomi.

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Speaker 2: How are you hi, Matthew, how are you going?

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Speaker 1: All right? Thank you? So how would this work if

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Speaker 1: it got off the ground.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So this is one of the ideas we're just

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Speaker 2: putting out there. As you mentioned, Adelaide, we are in

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Speaker 2: a race for talent, a global race for talent. Every city,

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Speaker 2: every state is competing. For a long time, we have

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Speaker 2: struggled with getting a critical mass of jobs here to

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Speaker 2: keep people here. We now do have the jobs, as

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Speaker 2: you said, there's heaps of growth going it across defense, space, mining,

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Speaker 2: energy resources. We need people. So this is just one

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Speaker 2: idea in addition to a number of other ideas to

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Speaker 2: encourage people here. And the concept is basically to encourage people,

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Speaker 2: young people to study in Adelaide and then start their

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Speaker 2: career here. So work full time for a couple for years,

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Speaker 2: and then get a reward or a bonus. So our

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Speaker 2: view is it's not a bribe, but it's not supposed

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Speaker 2: to be offensive, more of a kick start for to

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Speaker 2: their life in Adelaide rather than trying to attract people

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if it's a bribe or offensive. Well, no, sorry,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's offensive. It does feel a

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Speaker 1: bit like a bribe, it really does, and I get

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Speaker 1: I get it, I get the sentiment behind it, but

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Speaker 1: really I reckon we're better off spending money in creating

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Speaker 1: whatever we need to create to entice people to stay,

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Speaker 1: because it's a great a better place to live for sure,

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Speaker 2: Get that start of it as well. Our view is

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Speaker 2: it needs to we need to try something different, something new.

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Speaker 2: We are a fantastic place to live. We've got so

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Speaker 2: much going for us here, and as you said, when

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Speaker 2: people do come here, they almost go, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: why haven't I come here soon? Yeah, it is fantastic,

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Speaker 2: But I guess what we're struggling with is we're competing

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Speaker 2: with Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Perth, London, New York, Auckland. So

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Speaker 2: we are struggling. Every other city in the world is

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Speaker 2: trying to attract people to support their economies in the industries.

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Speaker 2: So it's just a concept, just an idea to get

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Speaker 2: people talking. And as you mentioned, there's other ideas that

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Speaker 2: we're talking about. Is also filter rent housing, So with

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Speaker 2: rental vacancies so low in Adelaide, we can't encourage people

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Speaker 2: hear and then not have anyone anywhere for them to live.

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Speaker 2: So it's multi faceted.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well it is as always. But you know, those

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Speaker 1: other big cities and those international cities, London, New York,

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Speaker 1: fantastic to visit, wonderful, ya who'd want to live there?

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Speaker 2: There's probably a lot of Adelaidians. I know, a lot

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Speaker 2: of my social group has has traveled to London and

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Speaker 2: some of the you two living in London, and then

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Speaker 2: eventually they realize, actually, we have a really good here.

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Speaker 2: So one by one they trickle back.

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Speaker 1: They do they do. We always get them back, I reckon.

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Speaker 2: Mostly yeah, and it's good. We want them. We want

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Speaker 2: people to go out and get that world global experience,

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Speaker 2: go and experience life in other places. But I guess

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Speaker 2: there's a portion of people that if we could encourage

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Speaker 2: them to stay here, start their career here, then we're

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Speaker 2: going to be able to marry the people with the

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Speaker 2: jobs that we need.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So and we're talking international students as well,

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Speaker 1: aren't we. So they come and study and get the qualifications,

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Speaker 1: and then we want to make sure they stay rather

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Speaker 1: than return time or head into state.

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Speaker 2: That's definitely something we'd like to see federal government sort

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Speaker 2: of manages the visa requirements for international students, and there

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Speaker 2: is a proposal out at the moment at the federal

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Speaker 2: level to cat international students. So that's something that we're

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Speaker 2: quite concern and about because international students do make up

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Speaker 2: a lot of our casual and part time workforce here,

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Speaker 2: So if we were to drop international student numbers, we're

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Speaker 2: going to be struggling even more in terms of skills

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Speaker 2: and workforce. So and yeah, we had about forty fifty

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Speaker 2: four thousand international students in Adelaide last year, so we've

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Speaker 2: got this huge number of global talent on our doorstep.

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Speaker 2: We would love to see them encouraged to stay on

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Speaker 2: and work in that laid post their studies.

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Speaker 1: Is it a matter of getting the businesses here to

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Speaker 1: employ them or is it you know, we can't click

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Speaker 1: our fingers and create a Times square, you know, for instance,

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Speaker 1: for sure, So what is do we need? Is it

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Speaker 1: the businesses here? We've done a lot of that with

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Speaker 1: Lot fourteen for instance, and all the startups there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, definitely, industry and business definitely have a

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Speaker 2: role to play. We hear time and time again when

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Speaker 2: we speak to skilled migrants who have moved here that

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Speaker 2: they struggle to get their foot in the door, and

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Speaker 2: so it's looking at things, you know, I guess, educating

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Speaker 2: businesses about the value of in employing international talent, what

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Speaker 2: the benefits that they bring to their business. And a

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Speaker 2: lot of employers here seem to be hell bent on

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Speaker 2: needing local experience, so that's one of the hurdles we're hearing.

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Speaker 2: So definitely businesses we are trying to encourage to look

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Speaker 2: at international talent as well as local talent.

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Speaker 1: Cause well, all right, well, Naomi, good good luck with

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Speaker 1: it whatever you end up doing, and hopefully something works.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't think we should be bribing them

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Speaker 1: all good, No, it's a bonus. Naomi Marsh, Strategy and

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Speaker 1: Project Manager Committee for Adelaide