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Speaker 1: Coming up on relatables.

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Speaker 2: I don't think the amount of money you're saving being

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Speaker 2: in staffed housing is worth what it does to the relationship.

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Speaker 2: So he's making a choice here, like he's showing where

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Speaker 2: his values are at. Like to him, saving money is

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Speaker 2: more valuable than a secure relationship.

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Speaker 1: That's that's my opinion. You put it like that.

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Speaker 2: There's that there, and there's also some people that probably

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Speaker 2: don't care. There is probably some girls that don't care,

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Speaker 2: but you care. I would care. It's a valid thing

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Speaker 2: to care about.

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Speaker 3: The Relatables podcast is hosted by myself, Audie Clark aka Mummy,

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Speaker 3: and my partner in crime.

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Speaker 1: Is the Jake Craig aka Daddy.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and he is Mummy because he's the when you

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Speaker 2: go to when you have a dilemma.

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Speaker 3: And Jake is Daddy because he's the one you go

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Speaker 3: to when you have a money dilemma.

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Speaker 1: And you guys are the babies the babies, No, not

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Speaker 1: the babies. And you guys are the bad. Are you serious?

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Speaker 1: You guys are the bad?

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Speaker 2: Sorry? I listened to shooting gigs this morning. They call

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Speaker 2: theirs audience the babies, so it's like fresh in my head.

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Speaker 1: I'm angry with you man.

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Speaker 3: You guys are the baddies, but the baddies are in

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Speaker 3: for a treat today.

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Speaker 2: The first ever.

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Speaker 3: This is no, it's not the first ever. I've done

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Speaker 3: it before, like two years ago. The first ever premium version. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: of dilemmas. This whole episode will be Dilemmas from you

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Speaker 3: guys with the.

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Speaker 1: Prompt ah, he's perfect but.

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Speaker 3: Yes, which is a reoccurring theme on relatables, and you

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Speaker 3: guys did not disappoint with submitting No. And before we

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Speaker 3: get into today's episode, we want to say what the

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Speaker 3: following Dilemmas episode prompt will be, so you can either.

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Speaker 1: Submit or check out story.

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Speaker 2: Next Dilemma's episode will be I did something I regret.

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Speaker 3: So there'll be a link in the top of the description,

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Speaker 3: or watch out for the story on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, shall we just into it?

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Speaker 3: I feel like that's what dilemma dilemmas are. No bullshit,

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Speaker 3: straight into the juice.

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Speaker 1: I will say this.

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Speaker 2: Five stars on Spotify or whatever platform you're on, or

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Speaker 2: tigers in your story on Instagram. When your hot girl

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Speaker 2: walks do on your body? Shit?

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Speaker 3: Exactly all right, Jake, He's perfect but still has bumble

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Speaker 3: on his phone. We met on Bumble and have been

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Speaker 3: dating since January, and while we were looking at YouTube shorts,

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Speaker 3: a message popped up on Bumble from another girl. I

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Speaker 3: asked him why he had it, and he said he

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Speaker 3: then promised me there was no cheating going on. And

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Speaker 3: besides that, he hasn't given me any reason to believe

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Speaker 3: anything is going on. We practically live together. He works

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Speaker 3: have the time to cheat? Besides that, we've been going strong.

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Speaker 3: He is kind, supportive and all around good boyfriend. But

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Speaker 1: What do I do? Oh my god?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't blame me for having insecurities, because the

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Speaker 2: thing that sucks about this is right, Okay, I'm gonna go.

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Speaker 2: There's two obviously different mindsets. It's like, okay, so yes,

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Speaker 2: it isn't entire It is one hundred percent of possibility

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Speaker 2: that he has completely forgotten about the app. But I've

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Speaker 2: never used Bumble. I don't know how it works, but

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Speaker 1: I think so to a certain extent, but also if

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Speaker 3: It, Yeah, I think that's completely disrespectful to her and

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Speaker 1: I mean, like, that's crazy to me.

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Speaker 3: If you get a relationship you delete a dating app, like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, it's crazy, that's so crazy.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I think you are onto something with He said

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Speaker 1: Is just up there?

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Speaker 2: Maybe and yeah, his profile is just up But also

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, you should. Actually you could do that in

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Speaker 3: you delete yeah are you sure?

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Speaker 2: Give me the fuck off the scene then delete.

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Speaker 1: It did its job, I'm out of here. That's the

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Speaker 3: And also, I feel like anyone that gets in a

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Speaker 3: it because you owe everything to it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's.

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Speaker 3: A tricky one, but it's also like a shitty excuse

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Speaker 3: in a sense of like, why are you following these

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Sorry, I forgot about it? On follow them? Like I

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Speaker 1: don't even think about it. Oh on follow him now?

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Speaker 1: But like, I don't know. That's not really the solution.

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Speaker 2: Is it.

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 2: I think it's probably gotta because he's the tough thing,

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Speaker 2: right is It really really sucks if he's telling the truth,

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Speaker 2: But it also really really sucks because let's say he's

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Speaker 2: if you're like, fuck it, I don't want to figure

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Speaker 2: even though he's given giving me no reason, Like, you know,

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Speaker 2: he works two jobs. We basically live together. He wouldn't

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Speaker 1: They always have time to cheat, I'm sure they do.

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Speaker 1: Does he really have two jobs? But damn, that's a

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's not as bad the lemma, but the

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Speaker 3: steps are to me, this isn't breakup worthy, No, And

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Speaker 3: I think he just has to show you that he's

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Speaker 3: thing I was going to say, like, you don't want

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Speaker 2: So why are you still going anyway?

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Speaker 3: I actually think so have a conversation about it again.

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Speaker 3: But it's more so how you view him in your head.

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Speaker 3: So prior to this, you were thinking, this man's perfect,

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Speaker 3: he's got to rebuild that trust to regain how you

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Speaker 1: That's how I would do it.

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Speaker 5: Just since January, it's fucking November on it, it is

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Speaker 3: But also you would hate that like he is telling

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Speaker 1: It's also like do better, come on, just do better.

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Speaker 3: That's why I think like it's a conversation, it's conversation worthy,

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Speaker 3: and then it's how you view him for a couple

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Speaker 3: of months until he rebuilds that trust and proves to

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Speaker 3: you that he's not doing anything wrong.

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Speaker 4: True.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like trust can be rebuilt and it's not like

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Speaker 2: the trust is completely shattered. But the only thing I

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Speaker 2: if it is something that is possible because you've been

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Speaker 2: I think, what was I going to say? Because here's

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't judge someone for you know, forgiving a cheater

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Speaker 2: would you forgive a cheating me? I wouldn't. You could

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't judge him, but I'd also be like, what

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like my if someone came to me with advice

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Speaker 3: Thought you were saying like, oh, yeah, I'm open to

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Speaker 3: but dude, I'm way too.

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Speaker 1: I'm just way too I hate cheating too much to

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Speaker 1: forgive cheating. Oh the same. I've said it before.

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Speaker 3: I reckon it's the equivalent of like killing someone cheating

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean yeah, you've just killed someone's fucking happiness. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So I think that's a good advice in there.

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Speaker 3: I also wanted to say, comment below what you guys

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what advice would you give? So that was dilemma

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Speaker 2: number one. Dilemma number two. I've recently met someone. I

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Speaker 2: find him super attractive and he he's a box ticker,

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Speaker 2: ticks all the boons, glad he's not a boxer, stable job,

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Speaker 2: doesn't live with his mum, has a car and a license,

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Speaker 1: What where's the bar?

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Speaker 2: Is she like?

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Speaker 1: Eighteen?

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Speaker 2: We get along well, great chat. I feel so comfortable

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Speaker 2: around him. I wasn't quite ready to be completely intimate,

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Speaker 2: but you know, we fooled around a little. So he

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Speaker 2: ticks all my boxes. But he's on the smaller side.

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Speaker 1: That's not where I thought. This is guy in.

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Speaker 2: Brackets, he's willy. Sex is pretty important to me in

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Speaker 2: a relationship. It's definitely a way I feel connected to

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Speaker 2: the person I love. What if it sucks? So she

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Speaker 2: hasn't had sex yet, she's felt it and seen.

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Speaker 1: It was he hard?

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Speaker 2: I assume she don't.

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Speaker 1: Fool around him not get hard. Yeah, well I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I was trying to give him a benefit of the doubt.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Australia answering this one name, I said, give him

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Speaker 1: No, no, is Beth working? Is Beth working?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 1: No, she's worked. Let's give her a ring. You want

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Speaker 3: You?

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Speaker 1: Why did your job holly off to get a dissexing done?

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Speaker 2: Maybe not?

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Speaker 3: Damn they would have been would have been a great

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Speaker 2: I feel like you just yeah you do, Like she said,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he takes all the boxes, don't doesn't live with

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Speaker 3: Drive as the list hasn't been to jail all of them. No,

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Speaker 3: but I'm judging them. Pleasurable sex can extend past penetration.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you get some good fucking four play going.

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Speaker 1: Do you have big fingers? How tall is he? It

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Speaker 2: Also?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so ok, steps are give him a chance.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, give him two chances, because the first time

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Speaker 1: The first time you're.

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Speaker 3: if it sucks, like well I'm out of here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah okay, So it's on the smaller side. I mean, hey,

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Speaker 3: You know that's saying you heard, that's saying it there's

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Speaker 1: Your skin chickens? What do your skin cats?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 2: That's why I said it's a weird saying when I

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Speaker 1: Also is there?

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Speaker 2: I don't know who cares, But what I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: one way to bring you up to climax? Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: what that mouth do, what those fingers do, what that

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Speaker 3: But also, if I'm a girl in this situation, do

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Speaker 3: It's tough for the man, but also I want to

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Speaker 2: It's only been recently.

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Speaker 1: Meant saying, I don't ask a question. How small is

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Speaker 3: That's a good question, like like, rude finger, that's a

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Speaker 1: That's tiny, and because you have thicker fingers than me.

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Speaker 2: But nobody he's like, you could have a you could

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Speaker 1: Let's just go length and that's too small. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: that's all right. I personally think that's all right. About

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Speaker 1: fucking three and a half four Oh for really, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you have a bigger.

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Speaker 2: Thinger than me. But nah, there's no way I reckon

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Speaker 6: There's no way that's like fucking that is definitely a

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Speaker 6: four inch finger. Nah, yeah, I reckon If that's a

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Speaker 6: four inch finger, get.

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Speaker 3: The tape out. And if it's under four inches cut tires.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: And if you really like him, so to you. But

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Speaker 2: we say, give him a chance, give him a chance,

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Speaker 3: Okay, Dilemma number three. He's perfect, But whenever he's in

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 3: My older sister has seen him do it several times

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Speaker 3: now and has told me it's becoming hard to not

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Speaker 3: say anything on my behalf. I don't know how to

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Speaker 3: It makes me feel physically sick and anxious, so I

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Speaker 1: What do I do? Hoy?

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Speaker 2: Relatable on the confrontation front, very relatable, very relatable on

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Speaker 1: Damn, this guy sounds like a dick.

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Speaker 3: He does, so he gets angry, and then he's in

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Speaker 1: And then he's just like why have we go where

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Speaker 3: It's just like alid back and forth, and then it's

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Speaker 3: you can't bring it up because he's just gonna have

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Speaker 1: And yeah, and so like you've tried to bring it

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Speaker 3: It's a reoccurring cycle. And you know it's bad when

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Speaker 2: And yeah, when you're when, Yeah, that's when you realize it.

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Speaker 2: Because if he's obviously he's not afraid to do it

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Speaker 2: in front of people. Mmmm. That's insane.

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Speaker 3: So what do you do? So, which is relatable for

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Speaker 3: This is still breaker worthy for me.

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Speaker 2: A it's just weird.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of it's he shouldn't be treating you

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Speaker 3: Have to say anything to him for him to realize

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Speaker 3: But there's no winning here because he's just gonna have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like, of course he's allowed to be in

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Speaker 2: But what you're not allowed to do is make it

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Speaker 1: That's that's not nice. I guess it comes back to

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Speaker 2: Maybe they don't have healthy outlets, because this guy certainly

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Speaker 3: The simple solution is like you said, you're allowed to

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Speaker 3: I'm just going to be quiet for ten fifteen minutes. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I just want a little bit of me time. Or

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Speaker 3: you say, oh, I need to talk about this. This

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Speaker 2: It's like it's just so easy to say to break

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Speaker 3: Relatable that men don't know how to regulate their emotions. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like it's understandable. I know.

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Speaker 3: Have you ever been in an argument and rather than

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Speaker 3: you don't catch yourself out doing it. Yeah, and someone

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's taking it as an attack.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when you're asking what's wrong, I dare say out

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Speaker 1: And it's a really big problem. And look, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you can do it without getting

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Speaker 2: See neither to why unless they're unless you could maybe

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Speaker 2: just set it aside if possible, and try and get

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Speaker 2: Obviously you need to make this decision, make this decision,

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Speaker 2: that if it doesn't stop the relationships ending. Yeah, So

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Speaker 1: Mood, that's what I was thinking. So but also does

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Speaker 1: that then make that put him in a ship mood? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: here we go. It's worth a try.

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Speaker 2: So if you can somehow, yeah, put aside the confrontation

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Speaker 2: this is just stupid. So if you think to yourself, yeah,

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Speaker 2: if this keeps happening, the relationship's ending, right, because it's

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Speaker 2: not fair on me because this makes me anxious. So

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Speaker 2: when he's in a good mood, if you could bring

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Speaker 2: up with him, like, you know, I just really want

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Speaker 2: and I really don't appreciate it because it just makes

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Speaker 2: I don't know what you want to say things like

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Speaker 1: The best and the only thing you can do.

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Speaker 2: And it's scary. I fully admit it's scary, but I

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Speaker 2: guess if you have to think about it, like if

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Speaker 1: I like it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, he's perfect, like my actual soul mate. We get

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Speaker 2: He's eight years older than me and used to be

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Speaker 1: That's hot, but also I know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what to do. I hate being away

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Speaker 2: for some of my best friends is that it.

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Speaker 1: I need more information, that's all we got.

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, are they? I have a feeling they

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00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,119
Speaker 1: dating because she said I hate being away from ye.

444
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 2: But here's where I get a bit weirded out, right,

445
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 2: like what did you guys? I need more context because

446
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 2: did you guys meet after school? So like you met

447
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 2: in school, right, but did you look at him that

448
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 2: way in school? And did something start then? Because I'm sorry,

449
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 2: but called the police because that's grooming? Or did you

450
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 2: leave school and then start something which is still actually

451
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,400
Speaker 2: called the police illegal because that's actually still illegal.

452
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay.

453
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,159
Speaker 3: What I like to few dilemmas is put myself in

454
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 3: the dilemma sender's shoes. And the only thing I could

455
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,440
Speaker 3: ever compare is we used to go to school, obviously,

456
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:20,400
Speaker 3: and then like three.

457
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,400
Speaker 1: Years later, we did go to school. Three years later.

458
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 3: I didn't get with a teacher or anything, but I

459
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 3: did see a teacher at a party. I was ash,

460
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 3: you were there too, I think, but you dropped out

461
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 3: of school.

462
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 2: Oh wait, I know what teacher you're talking about.

463
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

464
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was like substitute pe Yeah, played footy. Yeah,

465
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 2: so like kind of like the people we knew knew him.

466
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:42,919
Speaker 2: So we went to a party. He was actually liked

467
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 2: it and there was other older people at the party.

468
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 1: Also huge drug.

469
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 3: Dealer yeah he yes, Oh I didn't know that assive Okay, yeah,

470
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 3: oh I really liked him and it wasn't a creep

471
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 3: where I was getting with it wrong.

472
00:22:54,640 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, apparently he got suspended from It wasn't our school,

473
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 2: but I'm pretty sure he worked somewhere where he had

474
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,719
Speaker 2: to leave because there was some sus stuff going on

475
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 2: with one of the older students.

476
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 1: Well, don't take anything I said.

477
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he wasn't cool, but I know what you mean,

478
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 2: Like if you didn't know that information, he actually was

479
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 2: a cool guy.

480
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like, yeah, he has a bad but.

481
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 3: What so you can be a teacher at another school,

482
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,159
Speaker 3: get accused of doing something with an older student, and

483
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 3: then get transferred.

484
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,360
Speaker 2: So I still kids, it's a rumor, Like I don't

485
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 2: know if it's true, but that's what I was told.

486
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 1: I really liked him because he liked me because I

487
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 1: was good at sport. Yeah, I do remember him like

488
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 1: he was.

489
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 2: He was like kind of he was probably mid to

490
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 2: late twenties when he was at our school, and he

491
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 2: was just young enough to still almost relate to some

492
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 2: of the stuff. So he was kind of like, had

493
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 2: good banter and just didn't give a fuck if you

494
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 2: took the piss because he just take the pits harder.

495
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 3: Well, where I was going with that, don't use him

496
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 3: as an example, but where I was going with it

497
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 3: was what can.

498
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 2: You do.

499
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 1: If he is normal and cool?

500
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 3: But is your What you were saying kind of makes

501
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 3: it seem like no one in this situation can be

502
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 3: normally cool.

503
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 1: I think that you can't be with this man. Yeah,

504
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 1: I think that's why I'm leaning a so classic case

505
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 1: of his perfect butt. If there's a butt, I might

506
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: even go to say he's not perfect, right, because why

507
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 1: is he going for students?

508
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 3: I guess my say with that, it's always been too

509
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 3: even thinking about school now. There used to be when

510
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 3: we're in fucking year seven and eight, the year twelve

511
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 3: years to date the girls in year seven and eight,

512
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 3: that was insane and it's crazy, but to a girl

513
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 3: right to the dilemma center you and this man.

514
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:39,120
Speaker 1: You're thinking, this.

515
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 3: Guy's like cool, he's got his life so in such

516
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 3: the same way flank blah blah blah blah takes all

517
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 3: my boxes. But to him, why is a guy who's

518
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 3: eight years older than you who taught you at school?

519
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 3: When I get with someone who's eight years younger, who

520
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 3: I'm not saying you don't have your life together, but

521
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 3: why can't you get someone his own age? And I

522
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,360
Speaker 3: always thought that at school too, Why can't a year

523
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 3: fucking twelve person get someone who's year twelve okay, because

524
00:24:58,800 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 3: he's a loser.

525
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 2: I literally was talking to Beth about this last night.

526
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, you know, when you were younger,

527
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 2: if you had a friend that had older siblings, right,

528
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 2: and you thought they were like cool, And she was

529
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 2: like yeah, you know. I was like, they go to parties,

530
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 2: you hear about shit on the weekends, and then and

531
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 2: then you know, I said, there was a I remember

532
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 2: it so clearly when I figured out, like, oh, older

533
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 2: people are actually kind of losers, or it can be losers.

534
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 2: Because I found out that one of this one of

535
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,919
Speaker 2: our friends like older brothers, who was twenty seven twenty

536
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 2: eight at the time, he got with like a nineteen

537
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 2: year old at a party, and I remember being like,

538
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,360
Speaker 2: I was twenty one, and I was thinking that's insane,

539
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 2: that's crazy, that's insane, and that I remember from that day.

540
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, people just don't because we were

541
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 2: talking about maybe Central Coast, I think a bit more

542
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,040
Speaker 2: like Central Coast, what it's like to party here, and

543
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 2: how there's thirty year olds that still party like they're eighteen.

544
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,199
Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, I fully remember the day

545
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 2: when I was like, yeah, people.

546
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 3: I'm not all not saying we're cool in quotes or whatever,

547
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 3: but like now that we're both twenty five, if I

548
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 3: walked into a party and there was a bunch of

549
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 3: eighteen or nineteen year olds, I wouldn't entertain it and

550
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:20,360
Speaker 3: start partying there too.

551
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: I would be like, all right, well.

552
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 3: This isn't the place for me. Yeah, and that's what

553
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 3: the cool thing to do is. And the fact that

554
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,120
Speaker 3: people who entertain that and stay around it's.

555
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: Not even the cool thing to do, it's the normal

556
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:30,959
Speaker 1: to do.

557
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the normal thing to do.

558
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 3: So I guess, yeah, this guy's not perfect, then you

559
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 3: should probably I reckon is the reason. She said she

560
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 3: was embarrassed to tell her parents. Hey, I'm scared to

561
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 3: I think that's because you know deep down that this

562
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 3: is wrong. Yeah, and there's some underlying badness.

563
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 2: This has to end, Yeah, this has to I'm sorry,

564
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 2: this has to end because I'm in all honesty.

565
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: If you tell your parents, they're very likely going to

566
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 1: call the police.

567
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 3: The way I ever see something like this working is

568
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 3: like you finished school, You're like, now thirty, he's like

569
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 3: thirty eight. You've gone here, Yeah, and then you meet

570
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 3: at the coffee shop and.

571
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: We're like, whoa, Yes, is that you sir? Yes, I

572
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: know you used to be the teacher's eight or whatever.

573
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like that's an all right thing to me as well. Yeah,

574
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 2: like an eight year age gap if you're thirty and

575
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 2: he's thirty eight, by all means, exactly, by all means.

576
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 1: But I've lived enough of life to know what's going on.

577
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 2: The fact that it sounds like you've just got out

578
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 2: of school. I don't know though, but it just seems

579
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 2: that way with the information you're given. By the way,

580
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 2: bad if you're sending these in, we need a little

581
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 2: more info.

582
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't believe that teacher. I've told people he

583
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: was cool. That sucks. Here's the thing.

584
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 2: It's like, so the drug dealing thing one hundred percent true, okay,

585
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 2: but the like suspension from another school thing was I'm

586
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 2: not one hundred scent sure about because so as far

587
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 2: as I know, it was from a school that wasn't

588
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 2: in this country. Oh he lived in like the UK

589
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 2: or something, And that does seem like a rumor. But

590
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 2: also yeah, it's definitely a rumor. But yeah, I don't

591
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 2: know how do room start exactly, you know, exactly? How

592
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 2: do you something off? Something?

593
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: Usually kind of true? The number five. Yes, he's perfect,

594
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 1: but he hates p d A. I mean, you can

595
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: end it there.

596
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 2: I'm fine with that.

597
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm honest.

598
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, okay, but we'll get PDA only when there's

599
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 3: other men around. Why does he need other men to

600
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 3: show some PDA. I understand it can be like a

601
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 3: territory thing, and it might be his subconscious, but I

602
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 3: like it not just to be that's the only time

603
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 3: I get it. Please explain to me the male mind.

604
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 3: I'm not looking for some major PDA, just an arm

605
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 3: around the waist or a little kiss on the cheek.

606
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 3: Here in front of some people.

607
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, okay, yeah, I mean yeah, I'll I'll

608
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 2: hold hands every now and then death I'll go if

609
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 2: we're standing in a line somewhere, I'll do an arm

610
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 2: around the waist like.

611
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: I guess it's an insecurity thing.

612
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 3: So he doesn't do any PDA when it's just YouTube,

613
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 3: But when all the boys are around, he's like feeling

614
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 3: like under threat, and he's.

615
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 2: Like, that's funny. Though I would usually think it would

616
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 2: be the opposite. In front of men, you wouldn't do it.

617
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 3: Well, he doesn't trust his friends or the men, okay,

618
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 3: or he thinks to be fair, maybe he thinks you're

619
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,479
Speaker 3: too bad for him. So he's got a like Marcus territory.

620
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: It is interesting. I think, let's did she say she's

621
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: brought it up with him? No, No, she just said

622
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: that's all he does. They could just be like, I

623
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: don't know, a situationship or something.

624
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

625
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: Look, I think it's as simple as like I've noticed.

626
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 2: You know, when we're together in public, if it's just

627
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 2: you and I and a bunch of randoms, you don't,

628
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 2: you know, you don't really do any sort of PDA

629
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 2: or anything. But when there's all like men around you

630
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 2: do do a lot of PDA. See what he says, Yeah,

631
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 2: because he might not know, and also the male mind.

632
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: I don't like PDA at all.

633
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 2: I'm not a huge fan.

634
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 3: I get super uncomfortable just when there's a lot of

635
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 3: people around. Yeah, or even if it's just say I

636
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 3: went to dinner with Jake and Beth and Cassie started

637
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 3: doing give me a bit of p DA in front

638
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 3: of him, I would feel uncomfortable.

639
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 2: No, okay, I think there's a funny thing about PDA

640
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: in my mind. Right, So if we went on a

641
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 2: double date, if anyone, if any of us just showed

642
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 2: a public display of affection, I think it's rude because

643
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 2: of how little amount of people are there. Yeah, Like

644
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 2: if Beth and I started kissing and you and Cassie're

645
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 2: on the other side of the table, that's insane.

646
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:39,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, Or if you're Cassie, the same thing.

647
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 2: But if there was a group of ten and Beth

648
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 2: and I have become like out of all conversations and

649
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 2: I just gave a little kiss on the cheek, I

650
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 2: don't think that's bad.

651
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: I think I think that's fine.

652
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, it's how you do it because it's like,

653
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 3: if we were walking somewhere, I'll just hold a hand,

654
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 3: I'll do that. Yeah, but like I'm not gonna like

655
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 3: wrap her around my arms and give her a massive heart.

656
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no no no no.

657
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 2: So yeah, and I think like again, yeah, if you're

658
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 2: out in public, maybe you've gone for your walking, little

659
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,239
Speaker 2: cheeky hot handhold you could do. I don't mind. Like

660
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: if it's if I see a couple that's clearly just

661
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 2: been on a date and they're at the back end

662
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Speaker 2: of the day, they're going for a little walk looking

663
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 2: at the Sydney Harbor or something around the shol Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 3: I also think it comes down to communication in a

666
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 3: sense of Cassie really likes it, and although I'm uncomfortable,

667
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 3: I understand that she likes it, and I'll do it

668
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 3: a little bit because that's her side of things too.

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00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, Beth and I both feel the same way about it,

670
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 2: Like I'll do it, but see, like I would, I'm

671
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 2: more likely to do it with Beth if there's randoms around,

672
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 2: I know us give one little kiss right now, whatever,

673
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 2: But if there's people we know around, that's more likely

674
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 2: when we won't do it yeah, and I honestly think

675
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 2: it's honestly like he's saying you're really really bad, like

676
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 2: hot D.

677
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: He's nervous that someone else is going to take you.

678
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. It is seeming semi territorial. Yeah, on

679
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: the fence. It's like how a dog is subconscious as well,

680
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: pisses outside the.

681
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 3: Front of its house, Like yeah, I think it's as

682
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 3: easy as just bringing it up with them, like I'm

683
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 3: just unnoticed.

684
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, notice, And then he's gonna be like, oh, well,

685
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 2: would you would you like me to show more like

686
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: PDA and just random places? And that's when you say yes, yeah,

687
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 2: yes please.

688
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: I remember. Fuck.

689
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 3: This is probably one of you know those nights you

690
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 3: have when you just regret everything.

691
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: There's only one night I'm thinking that you could be

692
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: talking about.

693
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't remember anyone who was there because I

694
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 3: was so pissed.

695
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: You might have been there. It was at what's the

696
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: bar where you play pool?

697
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 2: Oh?

698
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: Oh no, I don't know. Oh another one? Oh okay, no,

699
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: I mustn't have been. I regret that, but that was

700
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: still fun.

701
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, okay, okay, wait a second, wait now this

702
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 3: one I was plasted.

703
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: I don't know why.

704
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 3: I was so drunk, but basically now then you just

705
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 3: you just don't eat.

706
00:32:58,520 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just kidding it.

707
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 3: We rocked up to a pool bar, all the boys,

708
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 3: and we're thinking it was just gonna be pretty chill,

709
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 3: but it.

710
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: Was packed full of people. Everyone we know on the cone. Yeah,

711
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: I'm trying.

712
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember.

713
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 3: At the time, I thought I was being like mad subtle,

714
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 3: but like I saw a girl I knew I'd gotten

715
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 3: with her previously.

716
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: Oh my god, yeah, go on. Oh.

717
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 3: I don't remember the exact layout, but there's like three

718
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 3: pool tables and then like it was either a table

719
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 3: or a seat, and we're just sitting in the corner.

720
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 3: Everyone can fucking see us going to town hooking up,

721
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 3: like going to fucking town.

722
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: I remember this so clearly.

723
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 3: Now, and I, oh my god, like I said, I

724
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 3: fucking hate PDA.

725
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: I woke up the next morning, I'm like, what what

726
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: was I doing?

727
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 3: And it wasn't like nice kiss and it was like

728
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 3: fucking central hene to town.

729
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 5: I remember playing pool and one of our friends were

730
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 5: sitting right next to you, and his girlfriend was there,

731
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 5: and I saw our friends sitting right there and I

732
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 5: made eye contact.

733
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: With him and he just got you know, he was

734
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: like this.

735
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 2: He was like like looking at you and then looking at.

736
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: Me, and I was like, what's coming on.

737
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 2: But here's the thing about Ottie, right, Here's the thing

738
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 2: about Oddie is so, to be fair, Odi hasn't been

739
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 2: drunk for a very long time, and so I haven't

740
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 2: seen it for a very long time. And but when

741
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 2: Otie gets to a certain level of drunk, he doesn't

742
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 2: know who he is. Anyway, one time in Bali, it

743
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 2: was Oddie, JJ, myself, JJ O other friend obviously, and

744
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 2: Oddie got so drunk we had to send you home.

745
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: And because you didn't know who you were, I want

746
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: to I want to actually ask J if he remember this.

747
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 5: I don't know how you got, but you got so

748
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 5: drunk you didn't remember who you were.

749
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 2: It was insane.

750
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: I remember.

751
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 3: The only little bit I remember of that was we

752
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 3: were walking back and you guys were trying to find

753
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 3: a gojack to send me home. Yes, yes, yes, And

754
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 3: someone recognized us and you were like, JJ's like not yes.

755
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 4: Jeh, oh my god, these two girls recognized us, and

756
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 4: I was trying this is this is probably we only

757
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 4: just started getting recognized, so we weren't good at it

758
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 4: yet like we didn't ask for names.

759
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 2: We didn't shake hands or hard green, like we didn't like,

760
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 2: we didn't you know, offer photos. We didn't. And so

761
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 2: they're like, hey, like big fans, and we were like

762
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 2: I was like trying to be like, you know, nice

763
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 2: and cool, and Addie stood there next to me just gone.

764
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't remember that, yeah yeah.

765
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: And I was talking and I was like, JJ's gone, guys,

766
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: bad time.

767
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 2: This guy's maggot right now, Like you didn't.

768
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: Do anything bad. You just did not remember where you were.

769
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: I just do like stuff. I just like, isn't me?

770
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: It is it?

771
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 2: It was so funny. And I also remember thinking like

772
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 2: after we sent you home, I remember thinking, is he

773
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 2: gonna get home?

774
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:51,919
Speaker 1: Yeah?

775
00:35:52,560 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 2: Should we have gone with him?

776
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 3: That is Unfortunately, that is the end of Dilemmas on

777
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 3: Spotify only, Oh han fucking stopping. On Patreon, there's twenty

778
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 3: more minutes over there for five dollars a month. Now

779
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 3: on Patreon, guys, you get an extra episode every single week,

780
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 3: You get the book club early, and now you get

781
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 3: the last twenty to thirty minutes of Dilemmas confession sessions,

782
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 3: all stimulated on Patreon. Like I said, for five dollars

783
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 3: to reiterate on next week's topic for dilemmas, it is

784
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 3: I did something I regret, so thank you so much

785
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 3: for listening.

786
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 2: If you're on Patreon, So you're on Patreon. If you

787
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 2: want more, head over there. But stay bad, Stay bad,