1 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Britney Saunders and welcome to Big Business, the 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: place where business is far from boring. And today I'm 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: recording on gaddigall Land. Now, I somehow managed to build 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: an empire from the garage underneath my house and I'm 5 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: here to share it all with you, from the winds, 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: the mistakes, the challenging times, and the funny moments in between. So, 7 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: whether you're in business yourself, perhaps you're not in the 8 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: game at all, maybe you're just looking for some inspo, 9 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: or you simply just want to hear the tea, this 10 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: is the podcast for you. Coming up on today's episode, 11 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: I have just landed back from a trip to China, 12 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: a business trip, and I want to talk all about it. 13 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: This was my first time ever going to China. I 14 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: documented the whole thing on my Instagram stories and I've 15 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: actually saved every story that I posted to a highlight 16 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: on my page. So if you missed it and you 17 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: want to see what I got up to, feel free 18 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: to go and check that out. And I was blown 19 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: away at the response on my stories. I didn't think 20 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: people would take such an interest in it, and in 21 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: saying that, I feel like I didn't share anywhere near 22 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 1: as much as I wanted to, but I was very 23 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: busy when I was over there, so I thought, you 24 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: know what, I'm going to take the time today to 25 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: talk you through my whole trip, why I went there, 26 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: what I was doing, and what I learned. So without 27 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: further ado, let's just get straight down to business knee. 28 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 1: How everyone, I am back from China, and I had 29 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: a great time. I had no idea really what to expect. 30 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: I was doing a lot of googling and watching a 31 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: lot of tiktoks and stuff before I went over there. 32 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: And for those of you that want to know exactly 33 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: where I went, I went to Guangzhou, which is a 34 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: city over in China, and it's a city that is 35 00:01:55,760 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: known for production and making all sorts of things. It's 36 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: like the business hub of China. And when I went 37 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: over there, actually I obviously went over there to look 38 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: at fabrics, but as I was driving to and from 39 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: the airport, because it's like an hour drive, because that's 40 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: how freaking big the place is, I saw so many 41 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: different like districts and areas and buildings like I saw 42 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: a massive cosmetics building like the size of a shopping center. 43 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: I saw leather districts. I saw lingerie districts, Like the 44 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: city is set up that there's like a different area 45 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: for every single thing that you could ever think of making, 46 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: and it was just super super cool. Now, I've wanted 47 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: to go to China for many, many years. Obviously, China 48 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: is where we get all of our clothes made. China 49 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: produces so much stuff in our life and in the world, 50 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: and I have wanted to go since before COVID, But 51 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: then obviously COVID happened, and so it was just one 52 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: of those things that kind of got put on the 53 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: back burner. But I finally arranged the trip and I 54 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:13,119 Speaker 1: was there for four days and it was great. I 55 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: went to China to visit factories and also to source fabrics. Now, 56 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: when I was there, I had a lot of questions, 57 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: a lot of people saying like they want to go 58 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: for their business or they're thinking of going. I had 59 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: a lot of people ask about the language barrier, and 60 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: then I had a lot of people saying who are 61 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: you there with? Because I kept saying we like, oh, 62 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: we're going here, and people were like, who are you 63 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: there with? I'm like, why are you so nosy? But 64 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: I had someone there with me who speaks Chinese, so 65 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: I didn't have like a translator with me. But basically 66 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: the way that I work with Fate and the way 67 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: that anyone can work is you can work directly with 68 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: the factories or you can have someone kind of in 69 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: the middle of that, and that's what I have. I 70 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: essentially work with a company that is like an agent 71 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: and they are the middle person in between myself and 72 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: the factories that we work with, and you pay a 73 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: bit of a premium for that, but you pay that 74 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: premium because it comes with a lot of benefits, the 75 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: language barrier being one of them. I have someone that 76 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: I speak to and work with that lives in Australia, 77 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: but they are Chinese and they own a company, so 78 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: then they are the ones that are communicating directly to 79 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: the factories with everything that I want to say kind 80 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: of thing. So I had someone from that company there 81 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: with me, and because they are from China, they were 82 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: able to show me around and kind of do all 83 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: the talking for me. And my number one piece of 84 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: advice to anyone that is wanting to go over to 85 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: China to find new manufacturers or to source fabrics or 86 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: absolutely anything, is it will I can't imagine doing that 87 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: trip with the language barrier without having someone there with 88 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: me because like most people don't speak English, or like 89 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 1: some of them do, or it's really broken. So that 90 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: was super beneficial for me. Now, one thing that happens 91 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: every year that I have always wanted to go to, 92 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: but COVID happened and then it stopped happening is the 93 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: Canton Fair. C antn It is just I mean, let 94 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: me google it so I can read to you exactly 95 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: what it's called, like what it is. Canton Fair. The 96 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: Canton Fair or China Import and Export Fair is a 97 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: trade fair held in the spring and autumn seasons each 98 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: year since the spring of nineteen fifty seven in Guangzhou, China. 99 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: It is the oldest, largest and the most representative trade 100 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: fair in China. So every year the Canton Fair happens 101 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: and it is one massive expo. I've never been, so 102 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: I can't talk about exactly what it's like, but from 103 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: what I've seen online is it doesn't matter what you 104 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: are wanting to make, you can go to Canton Fair 105 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: and you can connect directly with factories and also with 106 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: trading companies to make whatever it is that you want 107 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: to make. And again I've never been, but the Canton 108 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: Fair goes over like maybe a week or two weeks, 109 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: and it's just in a massive exhibition center, and there 110 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: is different days, so maybe day one and two is 111 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: for technology. And you've been to a trade show before, 112 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: Like you know, you walk in there's all stalls and 113 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: vendors and everything, and you just walk around and meet 114 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: people and get samples and all that kind of stuff. 115 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: That is something that happens every year. During COVID, it 116 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: obviously couldn't happen and Canton Fair went online only, which 117 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: I don't have no idea how they manage that, but 118 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 1: it's back up and running. And I did have a 119 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: lot of people say to me, I'm going to Canton Fair, like, 120 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: do you have any tips. I don't have any tips 121 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: with Canton Fair, but I will say, if you are 122 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: wanting to make something like it doesn't have to be 123 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: just clothing. It can be accessories, it can be tech, 124 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: it can be belts, it can be leather goods, whatever, 125 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: going to Canton Fair would be absolutely awesome because that's 126 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: how you're gonna find yourself some manufacturers. But I obviously 127 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: didn't go for Canton Fair. I do think it's happening soon. 128 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: I think it's in May every year, but I didn't 129 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: go there for that, and from what I've heard, Canton 130 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: Fair is absolutely hectic. Like people were saying me, going 131 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: to the fabric market on my story looked overwhelming. Apparently 132 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: Canton Fair is like a whole other world. But that 133 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: is something I can highly highly suggest if you are 134 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: starting out or if you're wanting to make a completely 135 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: new product, Yes you can jump on Ali Barber and 136 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: connect with manufacturers that way, which is like the way 137 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: that most people do it. But if you want to 138 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: go straight to the source and be in person, Canton 139 00:07:55,680 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: Fair is something definitely worth checking out. So my trip 140 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: to China, the way that I design pieces for Fate 141 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: is kind of like backwards to the way that I've 142 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: done on this trip. So, for example, let's say I'm 143 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: wanting to create a evening where range for Fate. I 144 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: will then go and explain to our manufacturers through our agent, 145 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: I'm wanting to make evening where pieces, and these are 146 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 1: the kinds of fabrics that I'm wanting to work with. 147 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 1: So maybe, for example, I'm wanting a stretchy, sparkly fabric 148 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: maybe I'm wanting a silky slip fabric and maybe I'm 149 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: wanting a thick structured fabric. What I then do is 150 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 1: I tell our manufacturer what it is that I'm wanting 151 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: to make and the kinds of fabrics that we're wanting 152 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: to use for it. And then what they do is 153 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: they go to the fabric market and they source the 154 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: fab for us. Then they will send the fabrics to 155 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 1: me like this watches, and I can go through them 156 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: and be like, let's use this one, let's use that one, 157 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: and let's use that one. And what was really cool 158 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: is by me going to China on this trip and 159 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: going to the fabric market was I was able to 160 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: first hand go there and see exactly where it is 161 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: that our manufacturers go to find fabrics. But also it 162 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,359 Speaker 1: gave me the opportunity to look at so many fabrics, 163 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: like thousands and thousands of fabrics, feel them, touch them, 164 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: and then from there I was able to get inspiration 165 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: for what I want to come out with for fate. 166 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: Instead of thinking in my head, okay, we want to 167 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: do sleep where and then having someone go and source 168 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 1: the fabric for us, I was able to walk around 169 00:09:54,600 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: the fabric market feel everything firsthand, and then I was 170 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: able to select fabrics and I had, you know, the 171 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: inspiration on the spot. Why I would feel something, I'd go, Okay, 172 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: this would be perfect for pajamas. I'd take this watch 173 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: with me, I'd write on it what I think it 174 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: would be suitable for and take it home. And then 175 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 1: I'd go to the next shop and find a textured 176 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: fabric and I would think, perfect, we can use this 177 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: for a resort. Where again I would take the fabrics 178 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: watch right on at what I think it would be 179 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: suitable for and take it home. So now I've come 180 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: home with a suitcase full of fabric swatches that I 181 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: already have inspiration for what we're going to use those 182 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: fabrics for the fabric market. Again, it's just in one area. 183 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: It is absolutely massive. Let me just google it, because 184 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 1: I got aj to google it on the first day 185 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: that I was there. I was like, Google, how big 186 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: this place is? Okay, So where I went, and I 187 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: was there for three days in total, you could spend 188 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: like you could spend two weeks there. And again, like 189 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier, this was just like one area and 190 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: one building that is just for fabrics and accessories and 191 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: hardware downstairs on the underground level. They had all types 192 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: of hardware and accessories. So all the zips that you 193 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: could ever think of, all the buttons that you could 194 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: ever think of, lace beads, all that kind of stuff 195 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: was on the bottom floor, which I didn't show on 196 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: my story. But this place was massive. But this is 197 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: just like one place. I can't get over the sheer 198 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 1: size of everything in China. So the Guangzhou China Fabrics 199 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: and Accessory Center, also known as I'm gonna absolutely butcher 200 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: the name but Zongda Fabric Market, is a massive textile 201 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: wholesaler market in Guangzho, covering three hundred thousand square meters 202 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: and housing over four thousand shops across nine floors, making 203 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: it one of the largest in Asia. Three hundred thousand 204 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: square meters. Our fate warehouse is one thousand square meters, 205 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: so this is three hundred thousand. Like, the place was 206 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: absolutely huge. Yeah, nine floors and two underground levels. The 207 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: first to third floors are fabric trading centers with more 208 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: than two thousand fabric shops. It is massive. Now anyone 209 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: can go to this. You don't have to be a 210 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: business to go there, and that might seem kind of weird, 211 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: but like the most that you can do when you 212 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: go there is like take fabrics watch at home, So like, 213 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: no one's really going to go there unless you have 214 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: a business that you're going to benefit from going there. 215 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 1: And it's an absolute free for all. And again, it's 216 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 1: kind of like a It kind of feels like you're 217 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: at an exhibition where there's all different stalls, but the 218 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: thing is like they are permanent stores, and they are 219 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: all fabric manufacturers and suppliers, and some of these stores, 220 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: most of them, they're really tiny. And the person that 221 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: I was with was saying that to rent one of 222 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 1: the little stores there is super expensive, like two hundred 223 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: thousand dollars Australian per year because the amount of foot 224 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: traffic that they get through that fabric market is out 225 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: of this world. And the cool thing is is people 226 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 1: from all over the world travel to go to that 227 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: fabric market, Like it's not just US, it's not just 228 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: Australian brands, and there was people from all around the world. 229 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: I also had a lot of the shop owners asking 230 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 1: if I was from Russia, and I'm like, I didn't 231 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: know that I looked Russian. 232 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 2: You kind of do give off a Russian vibe? 233 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: Really Russia? And I'm like no, but then we did 234 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: see quite a lot of Russian women there. But people 235 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: from all over the world go there. And as I 236 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 1: was walking around, you're seeing so many different fabrics. Not 237 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: only do they have like plane fabrics, but also like 238 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: already pre made prints on fabrics, And that's why you'll 239 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: see a lot of fashion brands come out with like 240 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: similar prints because they might be going there to purchase, 241 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: and that's why people have the same princes because they're 242 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: just buying the prints already made. But as I was 243 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: walking around, I was looking at a lot of the 244 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: stuff going gosh, like I would never think of like 245 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: using this fabric. But it makes you realize just like 246 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: how many people from all over the world travel there, 247 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: because what is a cool print in Australia might not 248 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: be in another country and vice versa. 249 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 2: Can I ask when you're walking around the stores. Now, 250 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 2: my experience with like markets in China is a bit 251 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 2: different because they have markets in Beijing, Shanghai and I 252 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 2: think Shenzen I went to and they're kind of like 253 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 2: a lot of the time they're selling like fake goods. 254 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and. 255 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 2: They're calling you in and you get to barter with them. 256 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: A lot of the shops there are they calling you 257 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 2: in to look at their stuff. They're just chilling. 258 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's not like, yeah, they want to sell 259 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: you their fabric, but it's not in that kind of way. 260 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: You walk into their shop and they're all like sitting 261 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: down working on their laps. 262 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 2: Just much more professional. 263 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, like they say hello and they're friendly, 264 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: but it's not like a pushy environment and it's like 265 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: you can not Bartering isn't a thing in those markets, 266 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: but in business, like when you're working with any manufacturer, 267 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: of course you can negotiate, you know, but it's not like, yeah, 268 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: it's not like when you're shopping around in Bali and 269 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: you're like trying to get something cheaper, like these are 270 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: proper fabric manufacturers. 271 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 2: Because we used to go to these markets and they 272 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 2: used to be like fabric I wouldn't well, they probably 273 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 2: not fabric manufacturers, but people who make clothes, like and 274 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 2: there'd be different fabrics all along their walls, and I'd 275 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 2: walk in and I'd go, I would I want this 276 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 2: suit made, and I give them a reference and I'd 277 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 2: go But I want this like this and that like that, 278 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 2: and they would make me an entire suit and it 279 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 2: would be so affordable, like fifty dollars or less. But 280 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: with barter, like i'd they'd be like, they would try 281 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 2: to charge me five hundred dollars. I'll be like, absolutely not, 282 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 2: I'm going to pay forty five dollars and that's all 283 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 2: my pay. 284 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: No, this is not like that. 285 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanted to know what was there any similar 286 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 2: kind of vibe? 287 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: Not at all. The way that like the fabric market 288 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: works is like they obviously rent their store. They are 289 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: a fabric fabric manufacturer. All of them. They make their 290 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: own fabrics. Some of them will make their own prints 291 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: if they've got prints available. But the way that it 292 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: works is you go in there and you can talk 293 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: with them, and then you can take home swatches. So 294 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: all those little colorful cards that I work with all 295 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: the time that I was showing on my story when 296 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: I was over there, you walk away with swatches. Like 297 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: if there's a fabric that you're interested in and you 298 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: take it for free because it's just a little swatch card, 299 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: you don't have to pay for it. But then if 300 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: you actually want to use their fabrics. That's when you'll 301 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: then get in touch with them when you're wanting to 302 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: place an order. Because that's the other thing as well 303 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: that I guess a lot of people don't think of 304 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: when it comes to manufacturing clothes. We have to buy 305 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: the fabric, you know. The fabric isn't just like they're 306 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: at our manufacturers waiting for us to use. So then 307 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: the way that it all work. Let's say, for example, 308 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: I have found some great fabric four pajamas that I'm 309 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: wanting to use. We will then go and order a 310 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: bit of the fabric to make our sample, and then 311 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: will place a bulk order of the fabric. So then 312 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: you purchase off these fabric suppliers the bulk amount of 313 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: fabric that you'll need, which is sold by the role generally, 314 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 1: and then we will purchase that off the fabric supplier. 315 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: Sometimes they will have their fabrics in stock. Other times 316 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 1: the fabric will be made to order, so then you 317 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: have to wait again. This is going back to that 318 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: production timeline that we spoke about in a recent pod. 319 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 1: A lot of the time the fabric will have to 320 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: be made to order because it's not just like sitting 321 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: there in the massive roles, and then the fabric that 322 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: we purchase will then go to our manufacturer to be 323 00:17:55,880 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: made into clothes. So when you're going to the faabric 324 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: market and meeting with all these people, you're not buying anything. 325 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: You're simply going there meeting them, checking out their fabrics, 326 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: taking the little swatch card home, and it's from there 327 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: that you can then go and buy in bulk from them. 328 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 1: So you have to get in touch with them, usually 329 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 1: via we chat or whatever it is that they use 330 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 1: over there. 331 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 2: Now, the benefit of you getting these like patches what 332 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 2: do you call them swatches swatches with the patches on them, 333 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 2: is that that's cutting down that that time of you 334 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 2: going back and forward of choosing fabrics definitely, So you 335 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 2: have them all right in front of you here back 336 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 2: in the shaw and you go, well, I no, I 337 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 2: want this fabric and now I don't have to wait 338 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 2: six weeks for the back. 339 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: Someone to go and find it and then send it 340 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: to me. Yeah. So, and the main people that go 341 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 1: to the fabric market is obviously business and brand owners 342 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: like myself, a lot of freelance fashion designers. Those are 343 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: the kinds of people that are going to this and 344 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 1: people that just work with Fabric. It was kind of 345 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,959 Speaker 1: like a Spotlight store but like on drugs, Like it 346 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: was just fucking massive, like, and I was putting it 347 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: on my story every day and people are like, oh 348 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: my god, where do you even begin to look? And 349 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 1: when I was like showing little snippets in the stores, 350 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,239 Speaker 1: I was trying to shove a lot, but a lot 351 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: of them have little signs in their store saying like 352 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: no photos, no videos, because especially for those fabric supplies 353 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: that make prints or like custom textures, they have a 354 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: lot of people like going in there and just trying 355 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: to copy what they make. But I was trying to 356 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 1: show as much as I could. A lot of people 357 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: were saying, you know, where do you begin? It very 358 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: much does feel like that when you go there, because 359 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 1: there's like nine levels and it's like which shop do 360 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: I start at? But I've been working with Fabric for 361 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: a really long time now. If I was just going 362 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: there when I was starting out my like just say 363 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: I was just starting Fate and I went there before 364 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: I'd launched Fate or whatever, I was looking for my 365 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: first fabrics, I would feel the same way. I would 366 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: feel what shop do I fucking start at? And how 367 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: do I know what is a good fabric and what isn't. 368 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: But obviously we've been making clothes for a really long 369 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: time now and we're very familiar with fabrics. So it 370 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: was just a matter of like picking a level to 371 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: start on because they were all they all had thousands 372 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: of shops on every single level, and then we just 373 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 1: started walking around. You kind of eyeball the stores as 374 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: you're walking past, and as soon as something grabs your attention, 375 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: you then walk into that shop and start filling the fabrics. 376 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 2: Like what grabs your attention? What sort of things did 377 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 2: you see that when I want to go in that shop? 378 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 1: So one thing that was really beneficial and super cool 379 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: was not all of them, but a lot of the 380 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: stores they had samples made in their fabrics. So there 381 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: would be like mannequins and racks where they just had 382 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 1: random pieces of clothing made in their fabrics. And I 383 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: found that I was really drawn to those stores because 384 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: I wanted to automatically, like you know, when you're in 385 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: the shop and you want to like touch everything. I 386 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: would see something that I liked on their racks or 387 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: on their annequins, and I'd walk over it over to 388 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: it and start feeling it, and then if that felt 389 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: super nice or it felt like high quality fabric, then 390 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: I'd start looking at the rest of their store. So 391 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: that was one thing that I wasn't expecting. I wasn't 392 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: expecting to see physical samples. I'm very much used to 393 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: working with a swatch, but something on a swatch, like 394 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: a tiny little square of fabric, feels so different when 395 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: it's in a top or in pants. So I definitely 396 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: gravitated towards those kinds of stores. 397 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 2: Were there specific stores that were kind of themed around 398 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 2: certain types. 399 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: Of fabric, Yeah, so all of the stores, you can 400 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 1: tell what kind of fabric they have, like, and it 401 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: was really cool to see as well. Like I was 402 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: looking at all the fit outs of these stores. Some 403 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 1: of them felt like a full retail store, and I 404 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: could tell they'd put a lot of money into their 405 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: fit out because they want to make it feel like 406 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: a stall. Like some were fully air conditioned and closed 407 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: with like really cool furniture, and some not so much, 408 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: like it was just like racks on the wall with 409 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: this watches kind of thing. But you can definitely tell 410 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: just by walking past each one what kind of fabric 411 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: they sell, like, Some just had pajama fabric. Some just 412 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: were like specializing in stripes, Like there were so many 413 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: stores that just had stripes, Like you just walk past 414 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: you and to see all the stripey s watches. Some 415 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 1: of them did like puffer jackets, and they would have 416 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: all puffer jackets in there. Some were active were fabric suppliers. 417 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: So even just by eyeballing as you were walking around, 418 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: like you could tell which ones that you were gravitating 419 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 1: towards because you could just see what kind of fabrics 420 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: that they had. The one thing that I didn't go prepared, 421 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: or didn't go into the fabric market prepared with, was 422 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: a clear idea of what I was looking for. So 423 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 1: I definitely feel like I will want to go once 424 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: every six to twelve months from here on out. And 425 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: what I would love to do every time that I'm 426 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 1: going to go is know in my mind what I'm 427 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: looking for. Of Course, I'm going to be open to 428 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: like discovering something that I wasn't expecting. But I went 429 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: in with a pretty broad mindset and I was just 430 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: wanting to see everything that they had on offer, and 431 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: I walked away with so many cool fabrics that we're 432 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: going to be able to use for future collections. But 433 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: I think if anyone's going for the first time, have 434 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 1: an idea of what it is that you're going for. 435 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: Are you going to find activewear fabric, Are you going 436 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: to find a bridal collection fabric? You know, because there 437 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 1: was so much stuff there, and then we were in 438 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 1: the lace section and I'm like, oh shit, Like I've 439 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: always had this idea in the back of my mind 440 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 1: that I'd love to do a bridal range, but not 441 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 1: bridal dresses, but you know, like the pajamas for brides 442 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: and the stuff that they get ready in for the 443 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: day or the night before. So then I'm in the 444 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: fucking lace and like sheer lace section, I'm like this, this, this, 445 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 1: like and it's just I'm going crazy because just before 446 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 1: I was looking at pajama fabric, now I'm in the 447 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: bridle lace section and I was just kind of like 448 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: really overwhelmed. But I kind of was okay with that 449 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: because I wasn't going there with a plan, And then 450 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: I was fucking downstairs looking at it belt buckles, like 451 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: it was just going all over the shop. But yeah, 452 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 1: it was really good overall. But my advice to anyone 453 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: if you're going to the fabric market, go in with 454 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 1: an idea of what it is you're wanting to walk 455 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: out with. 456 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 2: Do you think now that you have all these swatches 457 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 2: and you've been there and you've seen, you know, such 458 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 2: a versatile range of fabrics, do you think that's going 459 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 2: to have an impact on the range of fabrics and 460 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 2: the diversity of fabrics in fate. 461 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,719 Speaker 1: Now I can see the benefit of going there, and 462 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: I can see why so many brands go there often 463 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: and send staff there often. Or there's even freelance like 464 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: designers who you can kind of like, not higher but 465 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: you can sign them up on a little contract for 466 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 1: them to go over there. But I can definitely see 467 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: the benefit to going because just going and seeing so 468 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: many different fabrics, and trust me, I've got hundreds of 469 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: swatches already at my office, but just to go and 470 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: like discover new fabrics and see different textures and prints 471 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: and patterns and everything has left me feeling super inspired, 472 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: as opposed to sitting there trying to think, all right, 473 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: what's something that we want to come out with next. Instead, 474 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: I've found my fabrics which I can now be inspired by. Yes, 475 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: I love this fabric. Let's make a range out of 476 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: this certain fabrics. So it was super great the trip. 477 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 1: I absolutely loved it, and again I only went for fabric, 478 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: but there is everything as we were driving around, and 479 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 1: especially like on the way to the airport because the 480 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 1: airport is an hour away, even though it's in the 481 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: same bloody city, like it's so big. But on the 482 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: way out, I was like seeing like all these big 483 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: buildings with cosmetics written all over them, and there was 484 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: like a massive leather place, there was a massive lingerie area. 485 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 2: There's a tech there's tech. 486 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw a massive tech building. Like they've got 487 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: everything over there. 488 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 2: And the high fashion brands are literally everywhere, like Gucci. 489 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,959 Speaker 1: Is right, we talk about that in the end bit 490 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,719 Speaker 1: about the shopping. I couldn't believe it, but it was 491 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: super beneficial and I'm definitely going to go, like at 492 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: least once a year now because the other thing is 493 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: too It's so good to go there and see it 494 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: in person. But there they'd be coming out with new 495 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: fabrics all the time, so if I go back in 496 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: a year, I'm going to discover even more new things. 497 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,360 Speaker 1: And I was looking at downstairs, like on the two 498 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: underground levels where all the hardware and stuff. Iss, Oh 499 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: my god, millions of buttons and you wouldn't think, like 500 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: when you wear a pair of jeans, or if you 501 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: wear a button up shirt, Xander, like someone has picked 502 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: out those buttons that are on that shirt. But that's 503 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 1: what we do, like our fate denim. I don't know 504 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: if anyone's ever really noticed, but on our fate jeans, 505 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 1: like we have a custom button. Can you see that, Xander, 506 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 1: And it's got fate like embossed into it on the 507 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 1: back of our jeans. Oh yeah, we have fate embroidered 508 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: like on the belt area. So like the buttons there 509 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: were just insane. And I was in this section looking 510 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: at like hardware for like tops, you know how like 511 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 1: more like girls clothes, but you know when tops will 512 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: then like have a gather here and then it's like 513 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: a gold something. So I was looking at all this 514 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: hardware like kind of looked like brooches, but you know, 515 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: you put hardware on tops or like on the hip 516 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 1: of a skirt. And I was looking at all these 517 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: and I was collect all of these samples, and I 518 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: was saying, do they have like a online catalog or something, 519 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 1: because they're just so many. But they don't, so you 520 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: have to go back to see what they're coming out 521 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 1: with next. And another thing that I saw, and this 522 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: is really niche, but for those of you that like 523 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: know Australian women's fashion, there's a lot of tops that 524 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 1: are really popular at the moment. We've seen them on 525 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: Maths a lot this year. I think the main brand 526 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 1: that does them is Cookeye, but they're all doing these 527 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: like stretchy boob tube tops at the moment, and in 528 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: between the boobs there's like two stones and then like 529 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: a deep gather, like a metal wire with two colored stones. 530 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone knows what I'm talking about, 531 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: I'll show you, Lady x Anders, you know what I'm 532 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: talking about. But I saw these exact things that like 533 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: all the brands are coming out with at the moment, 534 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: where this is their basic tops have these decorative things 535 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: on the chest, but you wouldn't know that they're there 536 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: unless you go there. And so I was just seeing 537 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: all these things that all these brands are using, and 538 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: it was just Coop Coop. I just went to say 539 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: super cool, but went to say Cooper sol It was 540 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: Cooper sool. It sounds like a sim or something. 541 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like Coop. 542 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: Cooper Sole. Anyway, it was super cool to see and 543 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: I was just looking at things being like, oh my god, 544 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: I've seen cook I have those literally on their tops 545 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: that they have at the moment, and yeah, it was 546 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: just great. I can see why businesses send people over there. 547 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: It's so inspiring to see everything in person and just 548 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: get inspiration just by looking at things. And it's obviously 549 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: great to feel the quality as well. There's a lot 550 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: of fucking shit fabric out there, and one thing that 551 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: we pride ourselves on at FATE is our quality. And 552 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: it's probably something that I don't talk about enough and 553 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: I definitely want to more. Like people will always hear 554 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: me saying like, oh, these are the best genes ever, 555 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: but I'm not saying that, like, yeah, I think they're 556 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: the best genes ever. But we put a lot of 557 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: work and care into everything with our pieces, from the 558 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: quality of the fabrics that we select into the craftsmanship 559 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: of them actually being made. Because you can make stuff 560 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: so cheaply, and I'm sure there are a lot of 561 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: brands out there that do that, and they are those 562 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: brands where you will buy something, wear it twice, wash 563 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: it twice and it will fall to bits. But one 564 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: thing that we are so big on at Fate is 565 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: quality from start to finish with our pieces. And I'm 566 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: feeling super inspired after being over there, just in terms 567 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: of that and educating our community more. And i feel 568 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: like I've been talking forever already. Xander and I have 569 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: some other things that I want to talk about more, 570 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: just like from a tourist perspective of like being in China, 571 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: So maybe we will save those for this week's bonus. 572 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: So if you listen to my bonus EPPS, make sure 573 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: you come back and listen to this week's once because 574 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about just some of the cultural 575 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: and just I don't know, different lifestyle differences that I 576 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: noticed while I was on my trip for four days. 577 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: So that's all from me for this episode. I'm going 578 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: to leave you with a Tip of the Week as always, 579 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: I've got one actually off the back of traveling internationally. 580 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: A couple of days before I went, because I'd been 581 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: looking up like China and traveling in general and stuff, 582 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: and I saw this TikTok of a guy talking about 583 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: just how gross plane seats are, Like they are gross 584 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: when you think about it, like everyone's just sitting in 585 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: them for hours on end and eating in them and 586 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: fighting in them and smelling them out. And in the 587 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: TikTok this guy was showing like him cleaning down his 588 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: whole thing. And so before I went, I went to 589 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: kmart and bought these like alcohol like a big pack 590 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: of alcohol whites. And so when I got on the plane, 591 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: I felt like an idiot, but I like, thoroughly wipe 592 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: that thing down, like wipe down the whole chair, the 593 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: arm rests, the TV, like the little remote that you 594 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: get with the TV, and the cloths were black. I 595 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: sent Aja a photo like, oh my goodness, So my 596 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: travel hack for you all. I mean, I was going 597 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: to say, even if you're going on a one hour 598 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: domestic flight, we should be cautious of germs, take some 599 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: alcohol wives and just wipe that shit down, because I'm 600 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: definitely going to be doing that from now on. And 601 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: have your hand sanitizer because planes are freaking gross when 602 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: you really think about it. So that's my tip of 603 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: the week for you. Whenever you're going on a flight next, 604 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,479 Speaker 1: get some alcohol wipes and wipe that shit down. Anyway, 605 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: thanks so much for listening to today's episode of Big Business. 606 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: I'll be back later in the week with my bonus. Well, 607 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about more of the fun stuff 608 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: from my China trip and remember to chase after your 609 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: dreams as if they owe you money.