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Speaker 1: Here we have Rachelle Childs suiting up for qualifying stint.

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Speaker 2: Is it going to be a blinder?

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Speaker 3: Get the hell?

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Speaker 2: We're on language loved and this is the beginning lesson.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna watch Rachelle goes, who oh where are carding now?

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Speaker 3: And here we go.

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Speaker 4: It's a sunny day at Wakefield Park Raceway, about a

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Speaker 4: two hour drive south of Sydney. Rochelle is wild about cars,

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Speaker 4: and she's wearing her favorite sports sonnies and gear up

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Speaker 4: in a racing suit. Her blonde hair is pulled back

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Speaker 4: in a ponytail and she's beaming with excitement. She's moments

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Speaker 4: away from jumping behind the wheel of a hotted upholder.

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Speaker 2: Can you lask rus before we go?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Hey girl?

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Speaker 4: That driving experience was a gift for her twenty first birthday,

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Speaker 4: and it's the final recording. Rochelle's family has to hold

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Speaker 4: on to.

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Speaker 6: The death of Rochelle Child.

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Speaker 4: Twenty three year old disappeared from a pub in Bargo.

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Speaker 4: She planned to meet someone there whose burnt body was

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Speaker 4: found on a lonely South Coast road. Her body was

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Speaker 4: found in bush in GIRoA.

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Speaker 2: She was murdered.

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Speaker 1: The worst thing you could say to any individual, is

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Speaker 1: you're a murder and you kill my daughter.

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Speaker 4: Rochelle was killed by someone she knew.

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Speaker 1: We'd like to find out who did it and why.

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Speaker 4: Evidence points to a crime cleverly planned, but still the

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Speaker 4: killer wasn't caught.

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Speaker 7: My name is Christie Child's and this story is about

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Speaker 7: my beautiful sister, Rochelle Child's. She was violently taken from

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Speaker 7: us when I was just eighteen. Shechelle was vivacious, hilarious

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Speaker 7: and kind. She was everything to me growing up, my mentor,

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Speaker 7: my protector, my best friend. I looked up to her

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Speaker 7: so much, and now I know she's looking down on me,

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Speaker 7: willing me to find the person who killed her.

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Speaker 4: I'm Ashley Hanson and this is Dear Rochelle, a podcast

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Speaker 4: about a popular twenty three year old who was adored

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Speaker 4: by her family and friends. Nobody has ever been charged

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Speaker 4: over Rochelle's murder. From True Crime Australia.

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Speaker 8: This is the untold story of Rochelle Charles.

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Speaker 4: Hi, how are you? For the past year, I've been

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Speaker 4: working closely with Christy to reinvestigate her sister's murder. We're

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Speaker 4: on a mission to finally expose who killed Rochelle. For

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Speaker 4: more than two decades, Rochelle's family has been fighting for justice.

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Speaker 4: This case should never have been left to run cold.

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Speaker 4: I've been covering crime for over twenty years in Australia

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Speaker 4: and my job as a reporter has taken me around

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Speaker 4: the world. I thought I was prepared for anything until

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Speaker 4: I started investigating this case. The chilling fear that surrounds

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Speaker 4: Rochelle's murder has made this story the most challenging of

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Speaker 4: my career. I've even been warned by former cops to

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Speaker 4: tread very carefully. Any advice for me following this story

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Speaker 4: you were suggesting you're going to do, I wouldn't carry

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Speaker 4: that out you.

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Speaker 9: That's thought that you should be aware of what you

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Speaker 9: were doing.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes you get lost in your work and you don't

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Speaker 3: realize what you've done until it's too late. Well, as

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Speaker 3: I said to you before you're poking a beer.

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Speaker 4: I do take that advice seriously. But while a cold

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Speaker 4: bloody killer and suspected rapist is walking free, no woman

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Speaker 4: is safe and I just can't let Rochelle's family down.

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Speaker 4: Our investigation is uncovered damning new evidence, Innocent people who've

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Speaker 4: been too afraid to speak out for decades are breaking

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Speaker 4: their silence for a shell. You'll hear from friends and family,

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Speaker 4: investigators and key witnesses who've never spoken before. Some of

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Speaker 4: the brightest minds from our criminal justice system are helping

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Speaker 4: to reinvestigate her murder. Is it possible the killers through

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Speaker 4: the investigation so far off course it was impossible to

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Speaker 4: at play?

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Speaker 5: When you're dealing with sex offenders it takes years of

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Speaker 10: Fucking Blame on me because I'm in a by plot.

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Speaker 7: My worst fear is that person who killed Rochelle has

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Speaker 4: Over the years, police identified nine persons of interest or pois,

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Speaker 4: and the coroner comprehensively examined Rochelle's death, which still didn't

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Speaker 4: lead to anyone being charged. But what really gets to

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Speaker 4: the families the lack of action by police to reopen

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Speaker 4: her case. Here's Christie Child straight after a meeting with

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Speaker 4: the New South Wales Unsolved Homicide Squat in early twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty four. Christy's an assistant principal at a primary school,

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Speaker 7: It is that I don't know and I said so

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Speaker 7: you're not across this case and he said no, I'm not.

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Speaker 4: And I said who is and he said no one.

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Speaker 7: He said, so no one in unsolved form societies across

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Speaker 7: this case and already said no.

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Speaker 4: Christine Omman have been let down so many times. This

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Speaker 4: podcast could be their final shot through it all. They've

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Speaker 4: held on tightly to their memories.

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Speaker 3: Talking chins that were completely different personalities. She was just

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Speaker 3: out there more, you know. She was lovely and loud,

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Speaker 3: and Christy was just this soft little mouse.

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Speaker 2: It was sweet.

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Speaker 3: That's part of the dancing days. She looked up to

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Speaker 3: Chrissy looked up to the show. She really did. She

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Speaker 3: thought she were Ant's pants. Now they'll find they'll find together.

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Speaker 2: Right up through Prime.

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Speaker 3: It was lovely. It was a really good relationship.

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Speaker 11: My name is Lisa and I was Rachelle's best friend

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Speaker 11: for her entire life.

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Speaker 6: We owned horses together.

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Speaker 11: You know. We were dancing five days a week when

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Speaker 11: we were spending. We removed a little a moving panel

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Speaker 6: In each other's pools.

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Speaker 11: And to have her in my life, to navigate the

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Speaker 11: good and the tough times. There were some tough times

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Speaker 11: where we grew up in Glenfield, particularly for myself being

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Speaker 6: She was amazing.

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Speaker 11: She had away with people and away with the bullies

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Speaker 4: CHRISTI just turned eighteen when she moved in with Rochelle

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Speaker 4: in Bargo, an hour south of the hustle and bustle

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Speaker 4: was selling used cars at a dealership in Camden, a

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Speaker 7: We had big plays for the weekend and she was

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Speaker 7: supposedly getting a veal ss group A otherwise known as

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Speaker 7: was so excited because she got to take it home

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Speaker 7: So we had big plans about where we were all

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Speaker 7: so we're all very excited.

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Speaker 9: My name's Fierra Anda. I knew Rochelle for about two

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Speaker 12: Well.

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Speaker 9: I was the hired as the receptionist and registration's clerk

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Speaker 9: and she was in used cars. Work was just funny,

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Speaker 9: we'd smoke, we'd have lunch together. Sometimes. It was just

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Speaker 9: enjoyed it, she enjoyed it. She loved the talking to people,

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Speaker 9: and that was her gab. Anyone who came on the yard,

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Speaker 9: she'd be there talking to them. She didn't care if

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Speaker 9: they bought a car. She was just happy talking to them.

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Speaker 4: Really, locals, remember the dealerships used car office because it

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Speaker 9: So my office was in the showroom and to get

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Speaker 7: Ruschall's office was, you know, not too far in, but

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Speaker 7: it was pretty much there.

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Speaker 4: So did you ever come here and see Rochelle?

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Speaker 7: And she was like, oh, yeah, yeah, I was here

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Speaker 7: quite often for whatever reason, pick up things, pick her up. Yeah, now,

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Speaker 7: I was here quite often. I used to watch her

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Speaker 9: She used to do a Caf and Kim dance, you

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Speaker 9: know the CAF dance where Cat does the donkey. She'd

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Speaker 9: do that going down the platform of Camden. I would

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Speaker 4: The Fi owner Lisa Rochelle and her little sister Christi

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Speaker 4: were a tight crew until the seventh of June two

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Speaker 2: Here's Christie.

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Speaker 7: I was at Mum and Dad's house because they were away,

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Speaker 7: so I was at their house. I remember she called

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Speaker 7: you know when you used to have like the second

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Speaker 7: come through and I said, I'll just answer this quickly.

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Speaker 7: So I jumped over to the other line and it

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Speaker 7: was Rochelle and she was driving.

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Speaker 2: Because she always spoke so far. She just said hey, Chris, Michelle, and.

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Speaker 7: I said, hey, I'm on the other line. Erin and

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Speaker 7: she went, oh, right here, call me back. I say okay, bye,

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Speaker 7: and that was it.

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Speaker 2: I hung up. That was the last time I spoke

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Speaker 2: to her.

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Speaker 4: That was at exactly five point fifteen pm on Thursday,

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Speaker 4: the seventh of June two thousand and one. A minute later,

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Speaker 4: it's believed Rochelle flicked a cigarette butt out the window

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Speaker 4: of her blue nineteen seventy eight Holden Commodore as she

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Speaker 4: drove along the Old Hume Highway through Camden, heading towards

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Speaker 4: her home in Bargo. A council ranger happened to be

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Speaker 4: plate GV two thousand. The officer didn't see the driver,

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Speaker 4: but Rochelle was a smoker. Fine for littering was later issued,

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Speaker 4: but of course it would never be paid. Rochelle's exact

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Speaker 4: movements over the following nine hours remain a mystery. In

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Speaker 5: So off I get I'm driving through I've seen this

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Speaker 5: This is where I don't forget anything because it plays

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Speaker 13: And I'm going Wow.

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Speaker 5: Made that phone call again a triple A in saying

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Speaker 5: I've got a crime scene.

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Speaker 6: At this stage.

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Speaker 4: Rochelle's family and friends have no idea she's even missing.

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Speaker 9: We'd organized for these drinks on the Thursday to go

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Speaker 6: Said, I'm not going to go.

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Speaker 9: I've been on the phone all night. I'm just going

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Speaker 4: And what was the moment that you realized something was wrong.

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Speaker 9: Up the Friday night. When I got down to her face,

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Speaker 2: I can't find her. She's not answering her phone.

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Speaker 9: When I arrived at her house, the lights were.

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Speaker 7: All on, the car's not here, Ralfi hasn't been fed,

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Speaker 9: And the windows were like, the blinds were open. I

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Speaker 7: It was Friday night that we realized something was seriously

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Speaker 7: That night, we called police stations. We called all of

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Speaker 9: Were just trying anywhere to say as anything happened, is

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Speaker 6: My best friend's missing and I'm really worried.

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Speaker 7: And then the next day I'd printed out posters that

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Speaker 2: I had a.

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Speaker 7: Job where I used to cook the barbecue. I had

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Speaker 7: three jobs, but one of them while I was at union.

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Speaker 7: One of them was to cook the barbecue at the

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Speaker 7: At about ten o'clock, she said, you need to call

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Speaker 7: your parents, and that's when I called Mama dad and

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Speaker 7: said she's missing.

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Speaker 2: I can't find her.

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Speaker 3: The everyone was just very displaced, and Christie rang us

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Speaker 3: on the Saturday and said that I can't find Michelle.

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Speaker 3: I thought, what he mean, you can't find that? She's somewhere?

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Speaker 3: Maybe she stay did her friend's place last night?

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Speaker 4: And what was that drive like back to Bargo.

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Speaker 3: I don't remember. It was just a big blur. I

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Speaker 3: remember getting all fliers and taking it out to local

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Speaker 3: pubs and places around to sif anyone has seen or

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Speaker 3: heard of her, and rang with her work and know

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Speaker 4: The search engers its second day, and then a breakthrough

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Speaker 4: on Saturday. The family is told Rochelle was supposed to

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Speaker 4: meet someone at the Bargo Hotel on Thursday night. The

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Speaker 4: can find a cheap room downstairs as a bistro, a

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Speaker 4: Competition night and also topless Waitress Night, so most punters

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Speaker 7: I haven't been able to figure out why and why

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Speaker 7: why did she meet someone there? If it was someone

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Speaker 7: she knew, why didn't she meet them at home?

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Speaker 4: Had you ever gone to the Bargo Hotel with Rachelle?

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Speaker 6: No? Never, never. I didn't really even know she'd gone.

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Speaker 9: I'd never heard of the Bargo Hotel. If she'd mentioned

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Speaker 9: the Bargo Hotel, it would have been one of the

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Speaker 7: She would never walk into a new place alone, and

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Speaker 7: she would never go and meet someone new alone. She

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Speaker 7: as she was in there and felt confident, she'd forget

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Speaker 9: She knew too many people to walk into a place

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Speaker 9: on her own. She didn't have to ever walk anywhere

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Speaker 7: On her own, and she wouldn't go and meet someone

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Speaker 7: that she didn't know, and if she was going to,

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Speaker 7: she wouldn't go alone.

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Speaker 4: While the families desperately search for any trace of Rachelle,

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Speaker 4: police are trying to make sense of Craig Duck's shocking

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Speaker 5: I don't know what I was going through. I don't

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Speaker 5: really know. I was just going through, okay, the sort

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Speaker 14: The operator asked me a few questions, and I was like, well,

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Speaker 14: there's all this noise, and there's cars, and there's something

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Speaker 14: can't go to sleep, and now I think there's a

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Speaker 14: then it was a fairly short time after that that

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Speaker 14: I'd started hearing sirens.

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Speaker 5: Next thing you know, as a police are coming, why

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Speaker 5: their truck and I said, guys, you can't tell me

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Speaker 5: this is a crime scene area.

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Speaker 14: My name is Carmen and in two thousand and one,

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Speaker 14: seven mob Beach Holiday Park, which is approximately five hundred

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Speaker 5: Once the police got there, the officer's dawning of taking

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Speaker 14: And it's a long weekend. I've got three little boys

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Speaker 14: Something's not right.

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Speaker 4: How big was the fire at this stage?

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Speaker 5: It was conforming to one area, but it was quite high.

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Speaker 14: I can sense my emotions, you know, taking me back

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Speaker 14: to that moment and that sort of fearful moment and

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Speaker 14: and then I could hear a few sort of like

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Speaker 4: What was that twenty minutes? Like for you standing at

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Speaker 5: It was horrific.

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Speaker 14: If I was the last person to ever hear her,

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Speaker 14: ever alive, I feel some sort of connection and I

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Speaker 4: That's so emotional.

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Speaker 3: After August time.

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Speaker 4: Back in Bargo, Rachelle's family and friends are rushing to

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Speaker 7: We got into the car and I remember sitting in

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Speaker 2: The club block was on upside down.

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Speaker 7: And she had a specific way that she used to

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Speaker 2: And that wasn't done. It was upside down.

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Speaker 9: She would sit like hanging back the sort of cruisy

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Speaker 7: She did used to have her seat really far back,

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Speaker 2: It happened.

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Speaker 4: Christine her friends are racking their brains as to who

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Speaker 4: would have driven Rachelle's car anywhere, let alone to the

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Speaker 4: Bargo Hotel. Meanwhile, a murder investigation is well and truly

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Speaker 4: underway at seven Mile Beach, GIRoA at a nearby hospit.

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Speaker 4: A young woman's badly burned body has been formally identified

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Speaker 4: and South Coast detectives are making the hour drive to Bargo.

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Speaker 7: I was at home at Bargo, probably printing out more posters,

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Speaker 7: walked in, I thought, oh, they've found her, They've come

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Speaker 9: And they came inside. I was on the lounge. Christy

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Speaker 7: Walked up to me and looked me in the eye,

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Speaker 7: put his left hand on my shoulder and said, your

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Speaker 7: sister's dead. She was murdered and she was found down

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Speaker 7: at GIRoA.

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Speaker 9: When they said they they found someone at GIRoA, my

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Speaker 9: first words were, where the fuck is GIRoA? Where the

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Speaker 2: What what do you mean?

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Speaker 7: I don't know what happened after that. I think I

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Speaker 7: I can't be here for this, so I went out

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Speaker 7: the back and then yeah, then I ever told Mum

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Speaker 3: Was at the house at Bargo. We just gotten there,

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Speaker 3: and I Dave, he detective came out to tell us,

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Speaker 3: wasn't Shell. She always would ring Crystal, always contact us.

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Speaker 3: And when he said it, I said, oh, look, I

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Speaker 3: am that you sure like what?

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Speaker 2: And oh yeah?

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Speaker 3: They said that she was found on the early hours

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Speaker 3: of Friday morning. I just started the long weekend. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: she was dead.

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Speaker 4: How do you even begin to process such devastating news.

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Speaker 2: You can't.

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Speaker 3: You don't know what to do with it. It's just

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Speaker 3: it's just unbelievable. This doesn't happen. Yeah, it was so

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Speaker 3: hard for Christie. Was awful, time, awful.

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Speaker 6: Goosebumps just thinking about it.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 11: Anyway, I get in my car, drive home and then

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Speaker 11: I remember I was speaking to a friend of mine, Darren,

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Speaker 11: and then Fiona called and I'm like, oh, that's weird.

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Speaker 6: I'm going to hang up and a speak to Fiona

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Speaker 6: and they're like, hey, we found Shell And I'm like,

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Speaker 6: oh my god, where the hell is she? You know,

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Speaker 6: with this oh I'm going to wring her neck type

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Speaker 6: of thing. And she goes, oh at hospital. I'm like, oh, okay,

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Speaker 6: which one?

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Speaker 11: And she said, oh, sorry she no, Lisa, she's not

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Speaker 11: She's dead.

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Speaker 6: And I just fell out of the car. No one

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Speaker 6: was home, and I dragged myself on the floor and something.

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Speaker 6: I got to the.

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Speaker 11: Front door and then I remember ringing and straightway Michelle's

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Speaker 11: mum and just saying is it true?

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Speaker 6: She answered, and I said is it true? And she

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Speaker 6: said yes.

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Speaker 4: When you saw Rochelle's face for the first time in

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Speaker 4: the news days later, how did that affect you?

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Speaker 5: I couldn't believe it. I thought, she's only your baby Wire,

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Speaker 5: Why would anyone do that to you? Too? Well, you

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Speaker 5: know read that she played cricket and meeting King of

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Speaker 5: the Road Peter Rock and stuff like that, Like just

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Speaker 5: what a lucky girl at the time, you know, what

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Speaker 5: a beautiful life she had in front of her.

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Speaker 4: Craig Ducker's referring to a photograph he had seen of

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Speaker 4: Rochelle with her idol Australian racing legend Peter Brock. That

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Speaker 4: photo was splashed across newspapers and national TV screens as

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Speaker 4: police hunted her killer. An autopsy couldn't determine Rochelle's cause

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Speaker 4: of debt, but it was suspected she was smothered or strangled.

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Speaker 4: At least one of her fingers was also detached. She

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Speaker 4: was found naked from the waist down, leading detectives convinced

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Speaker 4: she was raped. The first lead investigator into Rochelle's murder

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Speaker 4: was a cop called Ivor Davies. Christie and I headed

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Speaker 4: to meet him back at GIRoA, where Craig found Rochelle's body.

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Speaker 4: Although years ago, I'm curious to ask either how heavily

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Speaker 4: does a case like that weigh on you.

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Speaker 1: You know, some things sit with you, whether it's the

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Speaker 1: one that got away, or whether it's a really really

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Speaker 1: bad one that you can't get out of your head.

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Speaker 1: And now a lot of the takers out there have

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Speaker 1: got that. I'll drive past this road on the regular

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Speaker 1: and I always look here when I'm driving through, and

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Speaker 1: I was that there had been something else which she'd

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Speaker 1: left me, something else, because I want a closure for

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Speaker 1: the family, and it annoyed me that we never ever

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Speaker 1: got there, and I think of her from time to time.

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Speaker 1: I can't think of anything we would have done different

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Speaker 1: because we'd done everything we could. I'm just sorry I

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Speaker 1: wasn't there to push on.

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Speaker 4: The killer clearly wasn't trying to hide her body. What

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Speaker 4: do you make of that? Well, I think they went.

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Speaker 1: To great lengths to hide her body, but it didn't

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Speaker 1: work out, so then it was just had hopily done

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Speaker 1: in haste. Just they've had enough. They must have been

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Speaker 1: driving around with the corpse and the body what an heiress,

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Speaker 1: And I just think that when this didn't pan out,

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Speaker 1: they've had enough. We're not going to just put a

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Speaker 1: rear torch and get the evidences get out of dodge.

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Speaker 4: Would you like this case to be reopened, because right

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Speaker 4: now it's not an active case.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm hoping perhaps because of what you're doing, it

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Speaker 1: may inspire some sort of motivation to push on. But

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Speaker 1: I'm absolutely sure in my heart that we've interviewed the crook.

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Speaker 14: He's in that brief.

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Speaker 10: I feel so indebted to Ivor because I know that

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Speaker 10: he put his hand soil into it, and he's still

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Speaker 10: even though it doesn't it work for the police anymore.

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Speaker 10: He's still summarizing and thinking about it, and yeah, he's

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Speaker 10: just beautiful.

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Speaker 4: It was on this day Christy learned more about why

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Speaker 4: this case has halted him.

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Speaker 7: I didn't know that he was the one that lifted

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Speaker 7: Rochelle out of where she was found.

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Speaker 2: I don't even just found that out.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's terrific, and that would be something I don't

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Speaker 7: think if that would never leave.

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Speaker 2: You can't unsee that, you can't unfeel that. So, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's horrible.

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Speaker 4: Rochelle's case was the last murder investigation either Davies would

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Speaker 4: ever work on. In the years that followed, countless more

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Speaker 4: cops would try but failed to solve Rochelle's murder. If

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Speaker 4: we're going to get justice for her family, we need

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Speaker 4: to do something bold.

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Speaker 12: Well, you've got to think outside the square and when

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Speaker 12: you take your blinkers off in these sort of investigations

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Speaker 12: and not be narrow minded.

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Speaker 4: So I've turned to Damien Loon, a thirty year veteran

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Speaker 4: who's known for cracking cold cases. He was the dogged

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Speaker 4: detective who was vital in the success of my inspiring

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Speaker 4: colleague Headley Thomas's podcast, The Teacher's Pet.

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Speaker 12: So I Chronic Greeka, believing your twenty tip you've seen

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Speaker 12: in Constable Damien looms Fell all told on conducting an

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Speaker 12: investigation into the disappearance of Lament Join Dawson.

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Speaker 4: The Teacher's PEP was one of Australia's first and most

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Speaker 4: powerful true crime podcasts, which led to the conviction of

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Speaker 4: Chris Dawson for the murder of his wife Lynn. For

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Speaker 4: decades he'd gone unpunished.

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Speaker 12: Well, all the skills that I used through my experience

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Speaker 12: of the investigation into Chris Dawson's homicide of his wife Lynn,

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Speaker 12: I'm now using those skills to help find out who

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Speaker 12: murdered Rachelle Childs.

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Speaker 4: I first met Damien at the airport in early twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty four to give him a copy of Rochelle's Brief

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Speaker 4: of Evidence, a closely guarded police file full of thousands

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Speaker 4: of pieces of information, statements, reports and exhibits. Damien, how

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Speaker 4: are you, Ashley Hands, Nice to meet you. Thanks for

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Speaker 4: joining the team. I haven't told Anne and Christy yet.

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Speaker 4: They're going to be stoked to just have someone with

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Speaker 4: your experience and expertise on the case.

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Speaker 6: Or oh he's Damian.

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Speaker 13: Thanks for everyone coming together so Christy and Anne, I

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Speaker 13: just want you to meet Damian Loon. I asked Damien

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Speaker 13: a couple of weeks ago if he would help us

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Speaker 13: on Rochelle's.

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Speaker 4: Case, and he didn't hesitate. He said absolutely.

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Speaker 7: That is so cool, that's amazing. It's lovely to meet

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Speaker 7: you longtime fans.

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Speaker 12: Oh, thanks Christy and and I know what you guys

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Speaker 12: have gone through over the years, and I can't say

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Speaker 12: I know everything. I fulfill for you. And the most

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Speaker 12: important part about what happened to Rachelle is that this

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Speaker 12: matter is solvable. But I can't promise you it'll get

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Speaker 12: that far. I'll tell you what. I have a bloody

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Speaker 12: good go at it.

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Speaker 4: And why did you say yes to help with this one?

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Speaker 12: I've had so many people have asked been again on

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Speaker 12: board with MADA. I've retired as a police officer. I

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Speaker 12: don't have any powers as a police officer, but this

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Speaker 12: one strikes a memory with me because it was a

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Speaker 12: young person in the prime of a life like Lynn.

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Speaker 12: Had everything look forward to, a responsible job, had a

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Speaker 12: loving family, wasn't a risk taker, and yet she's been

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Speaker 12: callously murdered and dumped far from her hometown in a

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Speaker 12: seaside side of giraua in a bushlang Grave and Burnt

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Speaker 12: the guy have no doubt in my mind that this

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Speaker 12: was a sexually motivated attack. Rachelle knew her killer and

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Speaker 12: she trusted him.

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Speaker 4: Can you solve this case?

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Speaker 12: This case is solvable, and there's somewhere in this brief

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Speaker 12: defenders in this if he's named in this group, somewhere

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Speaker 12: if Fender responsible for this crime, is still alive.

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Speaker 4: And there's so much more to unravel. On the next

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Speaker 4: episode of Dear Rochelle.

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Speaker 12: Rochelle was placed was within three hundred and sixteen leaders

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Speaker 12: aware jdphesis's body of us vacated.

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Speaker 14: I started thinking, gosh, this is going to be one

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Speaker 14: of those stories like Ivan.

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Speaker 2: Milat to join the dots.

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Speaker 6: Are they connected somehow?

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Speaker 1: They had five or six persons of interest to me,

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Speaker 1: there was a fundamental issue with the investigation.

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Speaker 6: Fucking blame on me, not because I'm in a biplot.

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Speaker 12: Have we got a serial killer on our hands or

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Speaker 12: have we got someone that's involved in both homicides.

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