1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: This podcast is recorded on gadigal Land Always was, always 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: will be Aboriginal Land. Hey Jix, I'm sal and I'm 3 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: out And this is two broad Chicks, the show that 4 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: shares life lessons and tips to help make you rich 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: in life. 6 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 2: And today it is our absolute delight to be joined 7 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 2: by Lotti dl who is an award winning sustainability advocate, 8 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: educator and founder of Banish, a platform dedicated to empowering 9 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 2: Australians with the knowledge and tools to live more sustainably. 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 3: Lottie is also the author of. 11 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: The book three hundred and sixty five plus Ways to 12 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 2: Save the Planet and your money at the same time. 13 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 2: And we have Lotti on the show to chat exactly 14 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: that how you can reduce your impact on the Earth 15 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 2: without blowing your budget. 16 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 4: Welcome Lottie, Thanks for having me. What a way to 17 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 4: start the. 18 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: Episode now, Actually just going to stand at the end 19 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: of your bed every morning and just read. 20 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 4: Remember you are my son, You are the one true key. Also, 21 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 4: by the way, great name for a book, Thank you. 22 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 4: It's a very long name for a book. I like it. 23 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 4: I love it. It's well. I think it's one of those 24 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 4: things like when you're writing a book. You guys know, 25 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 4: you're like, it's all about how you explain what it 26 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 4: does inside the cover, and. 27 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know again, yeah exactly that I'm 28 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: very excited to get into this chat because I think 29 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: this is obviously such an important topic and there are 30 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: a lot of misconceptions around it and how you can 31 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: live both sustainably and affordably, and I know it's definitely 32 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: been one that our chicks have been wanting to talk 33 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: more about. 34 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 4: So we're very excited to get into it, but we 35 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 4: have to do life lessons first. 36 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 37 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: I saw this on the Instagram page Facts, which is 38 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: up there with one of my favorite Instagram accaunt. We 39 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: love it because I just find the most random facts. 40 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: But apparently the average person will kiss twenty one point 41 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: five people. 42 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 4: In their lifetime. 43 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: Wow, I know, and the average millennial will have eight 44 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: intimate partners over the course of their lifetime. Well Gen 45 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: x's will have ten, but baby boomers will have twelve. 46 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 4: I know. 47 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: I was kind of like, you don't let you all 48 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: know it was you, but I was like, twenty one 49 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: point five people in their lifetime. I was like, damn, 50 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: I don't know what a point five is. I know, 51 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: it's probably because the average And I was like, that's like. 52 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 4: A little kiss. No time was like the corner of 53 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 4: the mountain. And you're like, what is deemed a kiss? 54 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 4: Is it a peck or is it like a full French? 55 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 4: I think it has to be French. I think it 56 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 4: has to be French. 57 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: I've definitely probably kissed about twenty one point five people, 58 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: so no shade probably gives. 59 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 4: Me a bit more. 60 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, no shade, I know a kiss? Hello above exactly? 61 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 4: Well what I mean. 62 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: I'm like, I have sex with people who you feel 63 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: connected with, and kiss people who you think are hot. 64 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly's the vibe. 65 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it, al and I like the two 66 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: ends of the spectrum on that statistic. 67 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 4: That's how they got to the twenty one point five. 68 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 4: I'll let y'all feel out. Who's on what. 69 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: I've had the same boyfriend for seventeen years. 70 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: I just think everyone needs to kiss more to bring 71 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: back the art of the makeout. 72 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 4: Love A makeout love a makeout and you know. 73 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: What, people don't kiss enough. We're actually in a kissing epidemic. Wow, 74 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: people need to be smooching, they need to be kissing. 75 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: I never see people making out in the club. I 76 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: don't go to the club. I go to the pub. 77 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 4: Maybe he's. 78 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: You never see people just like kissing anymore. Yes, bring 79 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: back the dirty dance floor. 80 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 4: Pash vibes seriously, because you know what, that's not enough 81 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 4: twenty one higher. We've got KPIs to meet people. Let's 82 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 4: go puck her up. Yeah, well, I know what's happening 83 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 4: after this episode? Yeah, what's your life lesson? This is 84 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 4: a good one. I think that my my life lesson 85 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 4: is going to be. There's so many different things that 86 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 4: I'm thinking about, but one of them is it's a 87 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 4: bit nerdy. I love a nerdy stat But a new 88 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 4: report has just come out talking about food waste in 89 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 4: Australia and the most wasted vegetable is now the poor cucumber. 90 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,799 Speaker 4: And I'm so sorry for the poor cucumbers. So mine 91 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 4: is about how we can utilize those cucumbers. And I 92 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 4: think it's about making pickles. I want everyone to love pickle, 93 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 4: like a dirty bread and butter pickle. 94 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because it goes in the crisper and it 95 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: goes down the bottom, up the back, and like my 96 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: brain is like, well it doesn't exactly. I can't see 97 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: it can. I also be about is it just me 98 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 1: or does it seem like they go off in like 99 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: two seconds now though, like I feel like I'll have 100 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: a cucumber and like four days later, I'm like, it's 101 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: like he's got a bit with and no one else 102 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: does it. 103 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 4: Strawberries, Yeah, strawberries are so cheap as well. At the moment, 104 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 4: I feel like you're by them and they're pretty much disintegrated. 105 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: And aldi's on all dash now, which is like my 106 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: hyperfixation because now I can also earn like velocity points, 107 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: like directly, I'll get into you later. 108 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 4: I love points. 109 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: And now I'm like I got blueberries for three dollars 110 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm rich. 111 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was like this has changed the game. 112 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: Because I looked on another grocery delivery blueberries were ten dollars. 113 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 4: I went, I was like, yes, how much the blueberries are? 114 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 4: And so I was like how much? I was like 115 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:32,119 Speaker 4: ten dollars. 116 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: And whenever sound like is shot by something, she just 117 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: goes shut up, like typical millennial. 118 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, she's like she's always like, shut up. The princess amazing. 119 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: That's such a good fact though, But yes, pickles love them. 120 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 4: I didn't like pickles growing up. I think it's a 121 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 4: frontal lobe developing thing. 122 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: Like once you like pickles, you know your frontal lobe 123 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: has developed. 124 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 4: Speaking of Aldi, they do like a two kilo special buy 125 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 4: sometimes of bread and butter pickles, and it's literally like 126 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 4: this week would ten out of ten recommend. Yeah. 127 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: What's another food that is a sign that your frontal 128 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: lobe has developed? 129 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 4: Olives? Definitely Chili. Yeah, see, I think I'm going through 130 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 4: this phase where I love chili, but I'm actually not 131 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 4: good with spice, So your frontal lobe can be disintegrating, 132 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 4: and maybe that's what's happening. Pickle. 133 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: It's more like it's like they can't even handle pepper, 134 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: and it's like your frontal lobe has to developed. 135 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 4: You still have the of a seven year old. My boyfriend, 136 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 4: my boyfriend. 137 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: Chicken, it's like beige from people's plates are just you know, 138 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: like the girlpop Vodkai pasta, Like we'll make it and 139 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: it's not even that spicy, and he'll be sitting there go. 140 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 4: I'm like, what are you doing? Spicy like that? And 141 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 4: I'm like, grow up. Pepper is also like yeah, literally 142 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 4: sit there and you go. 143 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: Chili. 144 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, my life the next week is 145 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 2: I also saw a fun little stat and report. Apparently 146 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 2: women need forty seven minutes of attention per day from 147 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: their partner to be the most happy version of themselves. 148 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 4: And this is double it and give it to the 149 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 4: next person. 150 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: Yes, this is uninterrupted, so that doesn't be weird, like 151 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 2: scrolling on your phone next to them watching TV. 152 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 4: That's per day? Was it. 153 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 2: Of like pure connection, like talking to each other? I 154 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: assume being intimate. 155 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 4: I'm going to add this to the schedule. 156 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: Does not include being intimate. That doesn't care. 157 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 2: This doesn't mean scrolling side by side on phones. It 158 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 2: means real focus time, sharing meaningful conversations, doing activities together, 159 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 2: or showing affection. So, according to the researchers who conducted 160 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: this study, these small daily efforts go a long way 161 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: in nurturing emotional connection and relationship satisfaction. 162 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: I one thousand support that, and I would say I 163 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: probably require double same. 164 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 2: I'm like overachiever, I need yeah, twenty three hours. 165 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 4: But obviously sex is such an intimate act. 166 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: But like also talking and not being on your phone 167 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: and discussing things that actually have nothing to. 168 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 4: Do with work or your day blah, blah blah. 169 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: Like that's also such an intimate part of relationships that 170 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: I think you also have to make that forty seven 171 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: minutes at least. 172 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 4: I also think it can come down to that like 173 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 4: quality time together, like cooking a meal. It could be 174 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 4: going for a walk like it. It doesn't have to be 175 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 4: just staring at one another. You're just like face a face. 176 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 3: You couldn't get into the episode. 177 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, So, as we did mention up top 178 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 2: in our glowing review of you, you have done so 179 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 2: much amazing work in the sustainability space. Where did your 180 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 2: passion begin and how did you get into this line 181 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 2: of work? 182 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a good question. I feel like I didn't 183 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 4: have like an upbringing that was super sustainable or off 184 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 4: the grid or anything like that. It actually came off 185 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 4: the back of a New Year's a solution, which is 186 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 4: one I got. Congrats to you for sticking to them. 187 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,599 Speaker 4: It's the only one I've ever heard you do it 188 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 4: six of them at the same time, So I feel 189 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 4: like then you get a good strike rate. If only 190 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 4: one works, you're like, well, at least something happens. Yeah. 191 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 4: The other ones were like become fluent in Spanish, happened. 192 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: To run. 193 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 4: Run a half marathon hasn't happened, But one was just 194 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 4: to do better for the planet because it was at 195 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 4: a time when we're still using plastic bags and supermarkets, 196 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 4: but we're starting to see those scary news headlines coming 197 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 4: about the turtle with the store up its knows that 198 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 4: everybody knows all of those really scary doom and gloom headlines. 199 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 4: And I was working as a journalist at the time, 200 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 4: and I was kind of reading all of these articles 201 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 4: and I was like, but no one's telling us what 202 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 4: to do about it. They're just telling us about the problem. 203 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 4: And I'm like, yeah, I get it, the world's in trouble, 204 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 4: but tell me what I can do about it. So 205 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 4: when nobody was really filling that gap, I thought, well, 206 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 4: why not help do that? Because I was the target demographic. 207 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 4: I was chatting to other people. They also wanted to 208 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 4: do more when it came to the planet, but they 209 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 4: didn't really know where to start. There's heaps of information 210 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 4: for people who had been living like this for a 211 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 4: long time, but what about the girlies who just wanted 212 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 4: to do a little bit, a little something something. So 213 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 4: that's why I decided to launch Banish as an education 214 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 4: platform to teach people those small micro steps that they 215 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 4: can take in order to live more sustainably, acknowledging that 216 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 4: we're all still going to drive cars, we're all still 217 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 4: going to go shopping, We're all going to do all 218 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 4: of these things, but we can do it just a 219 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 4: little bit better. So that was kind of how Banish started. 220 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 4: It was an e commerce platform and also an education platform, 221 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 4: so we connected Australians with different brands that were doing 222 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 4: the right thing when it came to the planet, and 223 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 4: then it's kind of evolved over time. We launched BRAD, 224 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 4: which is the Banish Recycling and Diversion program where people 225 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 4: send us their hard to recycle items in the mail. 226 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 4: Because I was that person who was kind of reducing 227 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 4: my waist as much as possible, but I still had 228 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 4: all of these things that I had to put in 229 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 4: my red bin, So things like empty beauty products and 230 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 4: bottle top lids and soy sauce, fishies, plastic bread tags. 231 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: They're getting rid of those, aren't they only in South Australia. 232 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 1: Maybe it'll roll out Fingers cross always one one Domino 233 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: hast for first. 234 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, we need someone to be Brave, Thanks South 235 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 4: Australia for doing that. So yeah, so that's when I 236 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 4: decided to launch BRAD to teach people how to live 237 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 4: more sustainably, but also to show them how they could 238 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 4: recycle these hard to recycle items. So they sent them 239 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 4: to me in a shoebox in the mail in my 240 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 4: backyard and then once that kind of started, it was 241 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 4: just this whole like avalanche effect. So we now get 242 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 4: sixty shoeboxes every day sent in from around Australia and 243 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 4: last year we recycled two million items that would have 244 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 4: otherwise gone into landfills. 245 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: So yeah, what are some of those items that are 246 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: hard to recycle that people can send to your BRAD initiative. 247 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, so there is things like blister packs, so empty 248 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 4: pill packets, mascara tubes, contact lens cases, old sunglasses, old 249 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 4: reading glasses, bronze of palettes, skincare tubes, glass serum bottles. 250 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 4: So any of your beauty products that are under one 251 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 4: hundred and fifty mils or one hundred and fifty grams 252 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 4: are too small to go on your curb side recycling bin. 253 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,599 Speaker 4: So that's why they should come to BRAD once you 254 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 4: finish with those empties amazing. 255 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 1: You are so impressive. That's incredible. I'm very keen to 256 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: get into this because a big critique of living a 257 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: more sustainable life is that it's more expensive than the alternative. 258 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: What's a myth around sustainability and affordability that you would 259 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: like to retire. 260 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 4: I think it is that living more sustainably costs money, 261 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 4: because I think that that's the biggest misconception out there. 262 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 4: I've had so many conversations with people and they're like, yeah, 263 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 4: I really want to do the right thing for the planet, 264 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 4: I just can't afford it where I'm going hang on. 265 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 4: I've been on this journey for seven years now, and 266 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 4: I have saved so much money in the process because 267 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 4: I think there's this misconception that living sustainably means this esthetic, 268 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 4: linen beige lifestyle. Everything looks beautiful, everything is matching, where 269 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 4: an actual fact, living sustainably just comes down to not 270 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 4: using so much stuff. It's about using up what you've 271 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 4: already got at home, re wearing things, repairing things. It's 272 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 4: nothing new and innovative. It's almost just going back to 273 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 4: what our grandparents used to do. And like, I'm like 274 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 4: the old nonnas were the most sustainable people out there. 275 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 4: I remember going to my grandma's place. I'd like, open 276 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 4: up a thing of yogurt and it was just like 277 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 4: a storage container uses and I was like, why don't. 278 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,479 Speaker 2: We do that anyway, bloody cookie, I've always had the supply. 279 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: Also, will not clean out their fridge. You're like, no, no, 280 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: these olives went off like two weeks good good exactly, No, 281 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 1: they're good. And you're like, nah, like you eat those 282 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 1: olives until they're done. 283 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 4: But they survived. 284 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're fine and actually probably got the best microbme 285 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: yea of all the generations. 286 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 4: Spices five still good. 287 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 3: Yeah. 288 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 4: I think that's one of the things. And I think 289 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 4: we can look to innovation and sustainability and yes, it 290 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 4: is important, but so much of it comes down to 291 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 4: like if you've got a T shirt that no longer 292 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 4: looks great, it's like, well, can you repair it? Can 293 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 4: you diet? Can you do something different to it? Because 294 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 4: I think we've got this convenience built into us now. 295 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 4: If we're missing something, it's there at a click of 296 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 4: a button, We're able to order it to the house. 297 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 4: It's going, well, if you're missing something in a recipe, 298 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 4: is there something you've already got at home that you 299 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 4: can just substitute in for it if you have got 300 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 4: a dress up party coming up, or I don't know, 301 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 4: a wedding, can you borrow something from a friend, Like 302 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 4: We used to do that a lot more when we 303 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 4: were younger. So why did we stop doing that when 304 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 4: arguably right now we probably have better clothes in our 305 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 4: wardrobes than we did when we're in high school? So 306 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 4: why don't we keep borrowing from friends? It's these small things, 307 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 4: and I think so much of it just comes down 308 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 4: to thinking twice and considering the planet. When you are 309 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 4: making decisions. 310 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 2: What are your favorite low cost or zero cost habits 311 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 2: that feel like a blow up and not a sacrifice. 312 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 4: Yes, this is a good question. I think for me, 313 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 4: mine is the ocean. A swim in the ocean zero 314 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 4: dollars and the amount that it can glow you up 315 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 4: change your day. There's no such thing. You never regret 316 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 4: a swim. I agree. We say that all the time. 317 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, we say you never regret a swim literally basically 318 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: every day of. 319 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 4: Summer exactly, So I think that's something. I also think 320 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 4: quality time with friends is for me a huge glow up. 321 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 4: It doesn't need to be an expensive dinner. It could 322 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 4: be a hot girl walk with friend. And I think 323 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 4: for me that's something that helps empower me, inspire me, 324 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 4: get me motivated. I think another thing would be again, 325 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 4: I'm going to sound like Ranana, but it is around 326 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 4: looking after what you've got. So if you do have 327 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 4: a plastic hair brush, great, just use that for a 328 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 4: very long time, clean it, look after it, and then 329 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 4: you are going to be able to treasure that item 330 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 4: for a long time. And I think so many things 331 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 4: that we look at we're like, well this is getting 332 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 4: a bit shabby and gross, and I don't know I've 333 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 4: had this for I don't know how long. It just 334 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 4: looking after that and that doesn't cost him anything. 335 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: Also, I find we get this kind of deterrence because 336 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: you know, we are in a COZILYPS crisis and the 337 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: soul on my winter boots is absolutely corct or they're 338 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: completely ready to go into the afterlife, right beyond repair. 339 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: And it'll be like, I don't I can't spend three 340 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: hundred dollars on a pair of one leather boots, right, 341 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: so I'll buy the sixty dollars pleather ones that are 342 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: going to fall apart in a year, and then you're 343 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: buying another sixty dollars pair of leather boots and another 344 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: pair And so often we talk about this all the 345 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: time that when you try to cheap out on the 346 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: thing that probably should be a really high quality and expensive, 347 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: you end up spending more and it's not actually affordable. 348 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: It was painful for me to spend how much were 349 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: those boots. 350 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 3: Like we did end up getting them on s out. 351 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 4: I got obviously two projects. 352 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: It was it was already painting and I was like, 353 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 1: please give me a twenty percent off prema code at 354 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: those boats every year and they're like five years old 355 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: at this point and there is not a dent in them. 356 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 1: I find that mentality which correct me from wrong roof 357 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: you've seen any differently, you actually care about the item more. 358 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: You're going to take it to get repaired, Like if 359 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: you know, a button falls off it or if there's 360 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: a tear or it has a stain, like, you're gonna 361 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: take care of it because you're like three hundred. 362 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 4: Dollars on exactly, You've got to make it last. Yeah, 363 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 4: And I also think it comes down to, yeah, that 364 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 4: repair mentality and going back again to practices like there 365 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 4: are cobblers still did exist. Yeah, right, broken handbag you 366 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 4: can get strap fixed, you don't need to get a 367 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 4: whole new one, And arguably that's going to be a 368 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,959 Speaker 4: lot cheaper than you having to buy and buy and 369 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 4: buy those handbags over and over again. Yeah. 370 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:57,479 Speaker 1: My favorite question, what slow and sustainable fashion brands should 371 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: we add to our shopping list? 372 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 4: This is that's a really good question. I am just 373 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 4: going to go with Vinnie's and Salvos. That is just 374 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 4: my there's enough fashion out there we don't need to 375 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 4: actually be going into new and I feel like we've 376 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 4: got so much, so many nuggets in these great secondhand stores, 377 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 4: So that would be my brands you can add U 378 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 4: turn in there as well. Also, yes, I haven't been yet. 379 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 4: Oh my god, it's so so good. 380 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: Like we went to the new one in Surry Hills, 381 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: darling Hurst, Yeah, darling Huge is that one on Oxford Street? 382 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 3: So really good. 383 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 1: And there's so many, like if you're in Sydney, there's 384 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 1: so many good thrift shops. 385 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 4: Well, they're popping up everywhere, and that's why I'm like, 386 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 4: there's enough new stuff out there, let's just go secondhand. 387 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 4: And I found I've had a couple of parties like 388 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 4: dress up parties lately, rogue dress up parties like Coyote Ugly. 389 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:58,479 Speaker 1: It's also like things looking vintage is a trend, and 390 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: it's like Nike in Schemes just released a collaboration and 391 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: I was reading the article the vintage pieces created to 392 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 1: feel and I was like, but they're not, but you're 393 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: making it to look like vintage pieces, and why don't 394 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: we just buy the vintage pieces. 395 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 4: It's like distressed denim. Just get some old denim rather 396 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 4: than having to like cut holes into it and fade it, 397 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 4: which is a really bad process for the environment. Anyway. 398 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 4: A pair of Goldie jeans which retail for like four 399 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 4: hundred dollars plus from Vinnie's for how. 400 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 3: Much was it fifteen dollars? 401 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 4: Fifteen dollars. 402 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: I found the first but they didn't fit me because 403 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: I wasn't short enough, and I was like. 404 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 4: You needs some much shorter. Here goes sound like they 405 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 4: were like cuffed, and so I was like, I think 406 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 4: that's the beauty of it. You're not going to look 407 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 4: like everybody else. It's like treasure hunting and it's a 408 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 4: nice story as well. 409 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 2: If somebody asked you where you got something like that's 410 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 2: also like a fun little story that you can tell. 411 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 2: So I love that Big Shop Girls. But greenwashing and 412 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 2: transparency is also a huge problem. How can you know 413 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 2: which brands to trust and which ones. 414 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 4: Not to Yeah, it's a good question. So green washing 415 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 4: is kind of when a brand will allude to be 416 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 4: being sustainable when they're actually not doing the right things. 417 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 4: So say, for example, for me, it would be ordering 418 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 4: five stainless steel strolls online and they come individually wrapped 419 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 4: in plastic. Or you purchase a brand that you think 420 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 4: is sustainable and you get home find out that there's 421 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 4: a lot of palm oil in there, which is one 422 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 4: of the leading causes of deforestation. This is happening more 423 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 4: and more because brands know that people want to be 424 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 4: doing the right thing yea, all the planet, so they 425 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 4: will trick us. And I think my least favorite thing 426 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 4: about greenwashing is that we're now starting to see things 427 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 4: like trust marks. So what this means is brands will 428 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 4: be making their packaging look sustainable without it actually being 429 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 4: a sustainable brand. So when you think about sustainability, you 430 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 4: think about like green or craft paper or brown leave leaves, 431 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 4: a brand could put all of that stuff they're packaging 432 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 4: and it's not actually sustainable. They're just wanting to kind 433 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 4: of appeal to that. So I think trust marks are 434 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 4: a big thing that I'm a bit like. 435 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 1: Oh I also saw one that was like doing photo 436 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: shoots in very green spaces or like. 437 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 4: In a field, or she's planting. She's wearing a dress 438 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 4: made of bolyesta. Totally she's flammable, but she's flammable, but 439 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 4: at least she's got we're just planning with treeing. Oh 440 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 4: my god. Like that's the thing. They're not telling us 441 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 4: they're being sustainable, but they're alluding to the fact that 442 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 4: they are. So. For me, red flags are any kind 443 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 4: of eco, natural or green words because they mean nothing, 444 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 4: Like you can say this is like seals eco and 445 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 4: green cleaner and it can be filled with bleach. Like 446 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 4: there's nothing that's going to stop brands from doing that. 447 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 4: There's no regulation around that. HABRAC is coming down on brands, 448 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 4: but they're going for the big ones first and it's 449 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 4: going to take a while. They've got a lot of 450 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 4: things to be doing, right. They are busy people, so 451 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 4: I think that's for something. And also it's looking at 452 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 4: the back of an ingredients list. So if you're looking 453 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 4: at a beauty product, for example, if you can't pronounce 454 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 4: the words in that packaging, in that ingredients list, if 455 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 4: there is like a I don't know, an encyclopedia's worth 456 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 4: of words in there, you're kind of going, why have 457 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 4: you got one hundred different ingredients in this? Why can't 458 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 4: I actually pronounce any of these ingredients? That's what I'm 459 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 4: kind of going, This isn't really something that I love. 460 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on refillable beauty products and the 461 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: role that they play in sustainability and affordability. 462 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a good question. I really like refillable beauty products. 463 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 2: Yea. 464 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 4: I think that there's a really great place for them 465 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 4: because I think if you think about beauty products in 466 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 4: the packaging, there's a lot of different components. To say, 467 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 4: for example, if you have a big I don't know, 468 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 4: like a seerum bodle or something like that, You've got 469 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 4: even perfumes. Now, yeah, there's a lot in there that 470 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 4: you want to keep that packaging in use because it's 471 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 4: really hard to reach cycle. So having a refillable body 472 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 4: wash or something like that, even if it comes in 473 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 4: a soft plastic pouch. It's lighter weight, so it means 474 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 4: that less carbon emissions have gone into producing that product, 475 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,199 Speaker 4: but also sending it to you or sending it to 476 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 4: the store. So I think that's also a really good thing. 477 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 4: So I am very pro refillable. 478 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: Because that's just what I was wondering was when you 479 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: have like a refeelable product and you buy the refill, 480 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: you still are getting rid of the product, like the 481 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: packaging the. 482 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 4: Refill came in. It's just less. It's just less. 483 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: Okay, That's what I was like, Is it still like 484 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: a sustainable thing or is it one of those things 485 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: where it's thick We're being tricked. 486 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's okay. 487 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 2: Good. 488 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 4: But also if you think some brands are actually seeing 489 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 4: we'll have like a refillable option in store to say, 490 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,959 Speaker 4: for example, with like Locks of Time, you can go 491 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 4: in store and refill your items, so then you have 492 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 4: actually no packaging in that process. Yeah, so that's why 493 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 4: I do like it. 494 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: I love that I remember seeing that in the Locks 495 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: of Time store that you can literally just take your 496 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: bodle in like a. 497 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 4: Bloody self serve. 498 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: But in head, it's the arm and body oil that 499 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 1: I'm insisted with the Yeah, so, looking at the average 500 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: Australian girly in their twenties or thirties, what are the 501 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: everyday habits that make a big impact on the planet 502 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: that we probably don't realize Outside of shopping, because I 503 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: think that's probably the most obvious one in terms of 504 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: like shopping for clothes and not rewaring. 505 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, so, I think, without being super polarizing, reducing your 506 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 4: meat intake is a really big one that can have 507 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 4: a really great impact on the planet. It doesn't mean 508 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 4: going vegetarian or vegan. It could be as simple as saying, Okay, 509 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 4: for breakfast, I'm not going to have any meat products, 510 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 4: and that will really significantly reduce your carbon emissions and 511 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 4: also your environmental impact. I would also look to things 512 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 4: like your single use plastic consumption. If you are somebody 513 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 4: who's consuming things like your coffee's taking your reusable cup, 514 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 4: it does make a really big impact. It also will 515 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 4: save you money. Most cafes give you fifty cents off 516 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 4: every time you bring your reusable cup, so that over 517 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 4: a week is pretty much the equivalent of a free coffee. 518 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 4: So that is a really good one that I think 519 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 4: people should be thinking of. It's also I think pulling 520 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 4: together our resources, and that can look like a lot 521 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 4: of different things. It could be reusing or borrowing things 522 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 4: from friends, so if you need to, I don't know, 523 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 4: borrow power drill if you're going to be a practical 524 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 4: Gali and you've got a friend who's got one, but 525 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 4: it could mean catching the bus to work. I think 526 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 4: there's a lot of things that we probably already do 527 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 4: in our routine that are actually sustainable, but we don't 528 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 4: think of them as sustainable. So I think that's something 529 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 4: to really focus on. Is it's not how much you've 530 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 4: got to do, it's also acknowledging the fact that you're 531 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 4: already doing a pretty good job and there's just a 532 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 4: couple of extra things that you could be doing for that. 533 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 4: It could be something like, if you are getting takeaway, 534 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 4: can you get takeaway that this is an't going to 535 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 4: be your lunch for the next day as well, so 536 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 4: then you're not going to be wasting even more money 537 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 4: or having takeaway dinner and then having a takeaway lunch 538 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 4: that's going to cost you double. So I think there's 539 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 4: just a lot of things that are small, simple steps 540 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 4: that are pretty tangible and practical, but it just again 541 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 4: comes to considering the planet when you're making that purchasing 542 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 4: decision as well. I love that I can get into 543 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 4: our game. 544 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we want to wrap up the episode by 545 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 2: playing a little game that's inspired by your book, and 546 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 2: we've named it Make It Green. So we'll give you 547 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 2: an everyday habit and you can give us your number 548 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 2: one budget friendly tip to be more sustainable. 549 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 3: Love it you're ready? Yeah, okay. Number one beauty products. 550 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 4: Cut your tube and get every last ounce out. Number 551 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 4: two food and meals. Eat all of your leftovers, don't 552 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 4: forget about them. 553 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 2: And then those cucumbers and the cucumbers justice for the 554 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 2: Number three finances and banking. 555 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 4: Look at who you're super invests in on your behalf. 556 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 4: Number four household bills. Put on a jumper or take 557 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 4: off the jumper before turning on the air con or 558 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 4: the heating. Okay, Dad, I did say switch off the 559 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 4: light when you leave the room. Yeah, we've all turned 560 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 4: into our dads. Number five travel, walk or catch public 561 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 4: transport when you're traveling more than catching ubers or taxis. 562 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 4: Number six cleaning. Use lemons for absolutely everything. Love that 563 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 4: love a lemon. You're witchy of you, very witch, very 564 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 4: green witch. So witchie could be slicing your lemon and 565 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 4: boiling it to act as a natural descaler. It could 566 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 4: be putting half a lemon on the top shelf of 567 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 4: your dishwasher, which acts as a natural rinse. 568 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 2: Aid. 569 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 4: Add some sliced lemons to your laundry load when you're 570 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 4: washing your whites. It will actually help brighten them. Rub 571 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 4: a lemon on a wooden chopping board and it will 572 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 4: disinfect so many tips. I love lemons. 573 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 3: What can't a lemon do? 574 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 4: What can't a lemon do? When life gives you lemons, 575 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 4: do it? Sunday Retail, Oh my god, I love. 576 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 3: That so much. 577 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 2: That was incredible. I feel like we could talk to 578 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 2: you all day. But we do like to wrap our 579 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 2: episodes with the same question with our guess, but related 580 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 2: to the topic that they're speaking to. So, what is 581 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 2: the biggest life lesson that you've learned on your sustainability 582 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 2: journey so far? 583 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 4: I think my biggest life lesson is that everybody is 584 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 4: at different sections of their sustainability journey, so you can't 585 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 4: compare yourself to one another. I feel like comparison really 586 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 4: is the thief of joy, and it's so easy to 587 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 4: look at other people and what they're doing going well, look, 588 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 4: there's so much further ahead of me on their sustainability journey. 589 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 4: There's no point me even starting, whereas you actually don't 590 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 4: understand their full journey and what they're doing. So it 591 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 4: would be just to plot along in your own lane, 592 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 4: making your own small, simple changes and it will actually 593 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 4: make an impact because whilst we can look to governments 594 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 4: and large organizations to make changes, as individuals, I believe 595 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 4: that we really do have our part to play and 596 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 4: we are making an impact, even if it is small, 597 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,959 Speaker 4: simple steps. I love that, and it could be as 598 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 4: small as asking yourself, do I really need this? Exactly 599 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 4: as the first step not buying that item is actually 600 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 4: a really positive thing, or not consuming something does actually 601 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 4: have an impact, but it's really hard. We don't have 602 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 4: that like cyclo switch. When we open up something from 603 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 4: an online audo, we get that dopamine rush, but when 604 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 4: we don't buy something, we need to somehow reward ourselves 605 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 4: from doing that. Yeah, yes, true, pat on the back. 606 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 4: Love that. Well, thank you so much. Thanks for having me, guys. 607 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go get lemons and put them on everything. 608 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 3: Oh my god, me too. 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