1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Welcome back to start here, the very special mini series 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: within Sugar Mamma's Fireplay, where I answer your real life 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: money questions with practical, empowering guidance to help you take action, 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: but most importantly, get started. Today's question comes from Jessica. 5 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: Jessica wrote, I can't. I'd love for you to do 6 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: an episode on staying on track with debt reduction and 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: rebuilding your super in your forties. My husband and I 8 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: moved to Australia twelve years ago, so our superinnuation only 9 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: started then. We have three kids under eight, I've had 10 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: three maternity leaves, and during COVID I withdrew twenty thousand 11 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: dollars from my SUPER to put towards our mortgage so 12 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: that we can move into a bigger home. Whilst it 13 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: felt right at the time, I regret it Now my 14 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: husband super is about sixty thousand dollars higher than mine. 15 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: I'm also working hard to pay off sixty thousand dollars 16 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: worth of student debt from overseas. This year, I've paid 17 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: off twenty five thousand dollars, but it's been tough. Mortgage 18 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: rates have risen, daycare fees are ongoing, and we're just 19 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: trying to stay focused. I'm forty four and sometimes i 20 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: feel like I'm playing catch up. My supersit eighty thousand dollars, 21 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: and I've started salary sacrificing seven hundred and fifty dollars 22 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: a month to rebuild what I Withdrew. I just want 23 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: to feel financially independent and secure, to know it's not 24 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: too late to build a comfortable retirement. All right, Wow, 25 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: I have so much to say, but before I do, 26 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: let me just get compliance out of the way. Everything 27 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: in this episode, of course, is general in nature and 28 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: for educational purposes only, and of course, always go and 29 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:43,199 Speaker 1: get personal advice from a financial planner. All right, let's 30 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: get back into this because this is a really important episode. 31 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: I have so much to say, and I'm gonna get 32 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: a little bit passionate in this episode. First of all, Jessica, 33 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: you are doing actually so many things, perfectly paying down 34 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: twenty five thousand dollars in one year whilst raising three 35 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: kids in a cost of living crisis. That is incredible discipline. 36 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: And on top of that, you're salary sacrificing into super 37 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: and not just a small amount of money. You're salary 38 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: sacrificing seven hundred and fifty dollars per month into super 39 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: That is amazing, you know, and I would say that 40 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: is long term financial vision at its absolute best. All right, 41 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: now that I've made you aware of how well you're doing, 42 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: and also for everyone else listening to this, please take 43 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: a moment to give yourself a pat on the back 44 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: for how hard you are trying. Let's unpack your questions 45 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,399 Speaker 1: and actually show you and everyone else listening right now 46 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: why I personally think your forties and for the record, 47 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: I'm in my forties as well, my mid forties can 48 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: actually be I think, your most powerful decade to actually 49 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: create that financial transformation that you are worthy of. So 50 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: let's get cracking, all right, Okay, let's hit the ground 51 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: running and waste no time at all. Step one, Please 52 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: know this, you are definitely not behind. You're actually building 53 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: from experience. And I say this to everybody in their 54 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: forties and even in their fifties and beyond. It is 55 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: so easy to feel like you are late or behind 56 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: when it comes to building wealth. But the truth is 57 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: you're not starting from ground zero here. You're actually starting 58 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: from a huge amount of experience, and you have survived 59 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: thirteen interest rate rises the painful cost of childcare, and 60 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: you've got three under eight, so imagining you probably had 61 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: at least two, maybe even three in daycare all the 62 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,839 Speaker 1: same time, you've had three major career breaks, and you're 63 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: also juggling the emotional load of parenting and as a 64 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: mother of three, it is full on and it is 65 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: really hard. And you've actually made some really smart wise 66 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: choices in your life around money, and you know you've 67 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: moved into a bigger home that hopefully has grown in 68 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: value with the crazy property prices we're seeing right now, 69 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: and you know you're clearly prioritizing paying off debt in 70 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: your life as in an aggressive manner. I mean, twenty 71 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: five thousand dollars in one year is huge. So can 72 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: I just take a moment to say what I love 73 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: about what I've read in this message and what makes 74 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: me feel really happy and so proud and excited for 75 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: you is clearly you are not motivated by guilt. You 76 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: are motivated by purpose and by goals and having a 77 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: sense of direction. And you've seen, you know how financial 78 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: struggles can impact people's lives, so you've made it a 79 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 1: priority to make sure that you are not a victim 80 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: that cries poor or wallows and self pity. You're getting 81 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: on and doing something you've already got started, and you're 82 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: also creating a very important pattern. Example raw molls to 83 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: your children as well about being financially resilient. And I 84 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: think your mindset is a really strong foundation of financial 85 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: independence that you're already working on and building right now, 86 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: whether you realize it or not. Now the neck is step. 87 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: Your superbalance isn't the whole story of your financial situation, Okay. 88 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: It is very easy to compare superannuation with your partner, 89 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: with your other family members, with your friends, with your colleagues, 90 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: with your peers, or even those ridiculous averages or benchmarks 91 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:41,799 Speaker 1: that get published in the media every now and again, 92 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: and you can it's normal to feel down if someone's 93 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: balance is bigger. But you know, comparison is the thief 94 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 1: of joy and it really doesn't actually shed any light 95 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: on the big picture here. So I wanted you to 96 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: remember this superannuation is just one piece of your wealth puzzle. 97 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: You also have a home. You also have seven savings, 98 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: perhaps in your redoal facility or offset account, and you 99 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: know you're building your income through working and your career 100 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: path and when it comes to SUPER, time and consistency 101 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: is actually what matters far more than what you've got 102 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 1: in your superannuation account balance. And of course you know 103 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: where that money is actually invested. And whilst you may 104 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 1: not necessarily have investing right now, which will come to 105 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: in a second, there might be some investing for you 106 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: further down the track, especially once that student deb's paid 107 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: off perhaps, but I'm going to talk about that in 108 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: more detail. I also want to say this to you. 109 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: If you contribute seven hundred and fifty dollars per month 110 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: over the next twenty years, and you're earning an average 111 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: of say seven percent, and you can stick to that 112 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: with increasing it with the CPI, you could pretend to 113 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: have an extra three hundred and ninety to four hundred 114 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: thousand dollars in your super. Now that's not even factoring 115 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: in your employer's twelve percent contributions. And the reason why 116 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: I haven't included that into your nums because I don't 117 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: know you know what your salary is, and I don't 118 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: know where that money is actually invested. But you know 119 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: that does even take into consideration, you know, super that 120 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: might get paid on bonuses, pay rises or any other 121 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: additional contributions you may make, so you actually this strategy 122 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: of salary sacrificing could actually help you exceed your husband's super. 123 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: But guess what, don't go and compare. This is not 124 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: a competition. If you start competing with other people, it's 125 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: a bottomless pit of unhappiness because you'll never feel like 126 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: you're good enough. The only person you're competing with is yourself, 127 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: the person you were yesterday, the person you were financially 128 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: last year. So even if you have started later, and 129 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: I say this to everyone right now, the key is consistency. 130 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: Consistently can contributing to your super from your forties all 131 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: the way through until your sixties or even seventies if 132 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: you can, because that is what can actually really transform 133 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: your retirement Outlook, all right, Step three, rebuilding your super strategically. 134 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: You know I'm tackling this because you've mentioned it so 135 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,559 Speaker 1: much in your message to me. You are already doing 136 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: the most powerful strategy that is salary sacrificing. It is 137 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: tax effective and it significantly helps accelerate the compounding effect. 138 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: But there are actually a couple other strategies that are 139 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: worth considering under the advice of a financial planner, and 140 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: I know, yes I'm a financial planner, but I'm not 141 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: giving you personal advice here. You need a statement of advice. 142 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 1: So here's a couple of ideas for you catch up contributions. 143 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: This may not be right for you right now, but 144 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: if you haven't used your full concessional caps in past years, 145 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: which is currently thirty thousand dollars per financial year, you 146 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: might be able to carry forward the unused portions for 147 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: up to five years. And this is a really good 148 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: way to turbocharge if you like your superannuation. But obviously 149 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: when your cash flow improves. So this may not necessarily 150 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: be a priority right now, but it's food for further 151 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: down the track. And of course, please keep in mind 152 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: the legislation changes the rules of you know all the 153 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 1: fine prints, so get advice. The other thing worth considering 154 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: is your spouse contribution. Now your partner potentially can contribute 155 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: it into your super and potentially receive a tax offset. 156 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: It's not a huge tax soft set, but it's better 157 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: than nothing, and this can actually help rebalance the Super 158 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: between two people. Not that it's a competition, but you know, 159 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 1: particularly if someone has taken a career break and then 160 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: of course there's the co contribution, so depending on what 161 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: you're earning. If you're in a certain income bracket, you 162 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: might be able to put some money into your superannuation 163 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 1: and get the government to put up to five hundred 164 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: dollars into that to help, but again it depends on 165 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: your income levels, which I don't have. The other important 166 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: thing to consider is the investment mix. If your super 167 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: is in say a balanced or a conservative option, you 168 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: might want to consider reviewing this and getting some advice 169 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: to make sure that your investment mix matches your risk 170 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: profile and your time horizon. With a twenty plus year 171 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,719 Speaker 1: time horizon and your super which would take you through 172 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: to your mid sixties, making sure that you have some 173 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: growth exposure such as international shares, Australian shares and property 174 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: could actually work in your favor, but of course it 175 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: does come with risk and volatility, so I would highly 176 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: recommend going and doing a risk profile and then speaking 177 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: to your superanneration company and asking them where is my 178 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: money actually invested. Is it in a balance fund, a 179 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: growth fund, a high growth fund, and whether you need 180 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: to actually look at changing that you want your money 181 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: working as hard as possible for you. The other thing 182 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: that can take into consideration is your super fun Now, 183 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: advice is expensive and the cost of running a financial 184 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: planning firm is expensive, which is, you know, there's a 185 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: lot of risk involved, there's a lot of compliance involved. 186 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: But this is why advice costs a lot. And that's 187 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: not to discredit the value, because I think getting advice 188 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: is some of one of the best things you can 189 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: actually do right now, it's something I'm going to strongly recommend, 190 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: but it may be worth seeing from a financially friendly 191 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: point of view if your superannuation company offers free general advice, 192 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: or whether they can actually create some limited advice purely 193 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: around your super and your superannuation strategy in a cost 194 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: effective way, so at least you've got your superannuation sorted 195 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: whilst you're focusing on paying down that debt. I also 196 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 1: want to say this something that is important that you 197 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: take a moment to feel proud of the reason why 198 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: you could afford to upgrade the family home is because 199 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: you're the one that took twenty thousand dollars out of 200 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: your super, not your husband's. And I'm not saying that 201 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: to undermine or disrespect your husband, but take a moment 202 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: to go, wow, I may that financial sacrifice so that 203 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: we could be in a bigger home and think about, 204 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: you know, well has that home grown in value? You know, 205 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: what intangible value have I given to my family, my 206 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: children having a bigger home. You can thank yourself for that. 207 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be regretting this necessarily because there's lots of 208 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: ways that you can make up for it, and it's 209 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: actually added hopefully a lot of value to your life. 210 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: And that home has hopefully appreciated and value significantly beyond 211 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 1: the twenty thousand dollars that you took out. Even think 212 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: about the opportunity cost lost. Well, we can get that 213 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,839 Speaker 1: back up again. I'm sure of it. Now. I want 214 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: to talk to you about, you know, which is my 215 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: step four? You could say, is managing this debt without 216 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: losing I guess, motivation and momentum. So you talked about 217 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: a student loan and you've already paid twenty five thousand 218 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: dollars off that, which is incredible progress. And it is 219 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: okay to feel like things are tough right now, but 220 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: it is only temporary. Nothing is forever, and you have 221 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: a finish line, but you just don't realize it yet. 222 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: So what I want you to do is look at 223 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 1: your debt repayments and you can use an extra payment 224 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,719 Speaker 1: calculator to help this, and there is one on the 225 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: sugar Mama website which you can use for free, and 226 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: you can plug in the loan, the interest that you're paying, 227 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: and the extra payments, and you actually see that you 228 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: are going to be debt free in maybe twelve months, 229 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: eighty months, twenty four months, you know, thirty eight months, 230 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: whatever it may be. But the point is you will 231 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: actually see that there is light at the end of 232 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: the tunnel and this debt repayment journey is going to end. 233 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: And the moment you can see where and when this 234 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: date is that this student debt will be completely paid off. 235 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: I want you to make a note in your calendar 236 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: because that then gives you something tangible to count down towards. 237 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: You know, if you like, print off the calendar and 238 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: put it on your fridge and cross off the day 239 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: so you can see you're getting closer and close to 240 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,359 Speaker 1: having this debt paid off. And here's the exciting part. 241 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: Once that loan is paid off, that student loan, all 242 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: those money, the money that you've been using to pay 243 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: that off, that extra twenty five thousand dollars a year 244 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: that is actually money that you can now put towards 245 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: your wealth building journey, or perhaps helping pay off your 246 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: mortgage sooner, or perhaps even budding more into super or 247 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: starting to look at debt recycling and things like that. 248 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: This is money that's actually going to really efficiently supercharge 249 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: your wealth creation journey. You know, can go onto the 250 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: mortgage if you like, and you could start to see 251 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: your mortgage significantly shrink, particularly an extra twenty five thousand 252 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: dollars a year on a mortgage. Wow. Or perhaps you 253 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: want to look at a debt recycling strategy where you 254 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: convert some of that home equity that you've been building 255 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: into income producing assets where you don't just own a home, 256 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: you also own an investment portfolio as well. That's creating 257 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: passive income, and that debt recycling strategy is also giving 258 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: you and your husband some tax efficiency as well. Or 259 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: if you prefer, you know, you might want to just 260 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: look at paying off your home loan and having some 261 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: liquidity through your offset account or redraal facility, you know, 262 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: building up every single day, Or perhaps you just want 263 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: something really simple, You just want to top up your super, 264 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: and you're happy with the fact that you know you 265 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: can't actually touch your super until you can meet a 266 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: condition of release. But for you, your financial goals are about 267 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: that retirement, having as much money in superannuation as possible. 268 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: These are all of the things that you can start 269 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: really working on and hone in on and amplify and 270 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: see amazing rewards and returns once that debt's paid off. 271 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: But you've got to see that there is light at 272 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: the end of the tunnel, and you've got to know 273 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: that date is coming. So calculate with everything that you're 274 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: doing right now to what that date is. And that 275 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: might even actually spur some ideas to actually make extra 276 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: payments to bring that date in sooner, whether you do 277 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: some ad hoc things like extra work or extra financial 278 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: challenges or selling things to help bring that date. Every 279 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: time you make an extra payment, though, make sure you 280 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: update your calendar and see whether that's saved you a 281 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: month and you're going to be debt free a month 282 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: sooner or even a year sooner. Just make sure you're 283 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: fixated on this end date to keep that motivation going 284 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: all right. Step five, and that is the expensive family years. 285 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: This is something I think a lot of families, young 286 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: families like myself, we can get really stuck in because 287 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: it can feel really draining, overwhelming and even depressing at times. 288 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: But please know this where we're at, you and I 289 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: and all the other young families listening to this is 290 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: it's temporary. I want to remind you to just take 291 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: a moment and deep breath and pause. Can I remind 292 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: you that you are raising three young children under eight. 293 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: That is incredibly expensive. Daycare is painfully expensive. Food. Oh 294 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: my gosh. I go to the supermarket and I come 295 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: home and I think, Wow, I just bought all these 296 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: groceries and that's it, And I find myself, you know, 297 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: a few days later, I've got to go back again. Clothes. 298 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: I just bought tigers some new clothes the other day, 299 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: order to you, about three months ago, and they've already 300 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: too small. I already going got to get there some 301 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: new pieces as well. And then there's activities the weekends, 302 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: you know, going to kids' birthday parties, making sure they've 303 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: got a gift, the school likeivities, costumes, book week like 304 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: all of these things. And yes, we all try and 305 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 1: do these things in financially friendly ways. But there's sometimes 306 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: there are just costs, doctor's appointments, specialists, medicine. You know, 307 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,360 Speaker 1: my son Rocco knocked his tooth out the other night 308 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: and he had to go and have an emergency dentist 309 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: appointment to have the tooth extracted. These are just part 310 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: of life. But it's it's not forever. But I do 311 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: get that it can feel relentless, but know that this 312 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: is a season. It's not forever. And we are lucky 313 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: to have children, and we are lucky to be able 314 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: to have a family and to be able to give 315 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: these kids unconditional love and support. And I also want 316 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: to show you, I guess identify some key turning points 317 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: when your youngest child starts school and you're not paying 318 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: daycare anymore. I'm eighteen months away from this myself, and 319 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: I will be doing cartwheels across the school playground knowing 320 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: that I never need to pay daycare ever again. The 321 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: moment you stop paying daycare, you know your financial landscape 322 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: will change again. There'll be another shift, another breakthrough. And 323 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: this is a real amazing opportunity, a golden opportunity to 324 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: take that money that you've been using towards daycare and 325 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: childcare and redirect it again. You can do the same 326 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: thing again. You can redirect it towards your SUPER if 327 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: that's what you want. You can put it towards mortgage repayments, 328 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: increasing the mortgage of payments and seeing the time and 329 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: interest you'll save on that. Again, use this Mama extra 330 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: payment calculators to see how much interest and time you 331 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: can save. Or perhaps it's time for you to start 332 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: building your own investment portfolio. You know, look at say 333 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: five hundred dollars per month or a thousand dollars a month, 334 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: even if you can afford to and redirect that into 335 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: an investment portfolio for say ten to fifteen years, and 336 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,479 Speaker 1: you can see that compounding effect impact in your investment 337 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 1: portfolio away from SUPER. That can help supplement your SUPER 338 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: and your retirement needs. No one ever regrets investing, and 339 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,239 Speaker 1: I definitely think your future self will thank you for 340 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: doing this. It can be something you're doing for yourself 341 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: to help fill your cup, particularly if you're still holding 342 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 1: onto that idea that you know your SUPER is behind. 343 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: And finally, I want you to look at defining some 344 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: financial freedom goals. I understand that you are feeling a 345 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: little bit drained, a bit flat, perhaps even a little 346 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: bit stuck. So I really want to recommend that you 347 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: create some really clearly defined financial freedom goals. Instead of 348 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: thinking only about the superannuation balances or the you know 349 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: what your mortgage is or what your debt is, I 350 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: want you to start thinking about creating some income based 351 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: financial goals, that is, passive income based goals. So ask 352 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: yourself this one question, how much passive income would I 353 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: need personally or my family need to make sure that 354 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: we are safe, secure and independent. And then you'll come 355 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: up with a figure. It might be eighty thousand dollars 356 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: a year, or one hundred thousand dollars a year, or 357 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty thousand dollars a year. But that 358 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: number should sit with you and actually make you feel 359 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 1: confident and strong and resilient, and you can then go 360 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: and set a goal for yourself. It might be something like, okay, 361 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: forty thousand dollars a year in passive income that I 362 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: want to create. I want to create that forty thousand 363 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,479 Speaker 1: dollars a year by age sixty. And I want that income, 364 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: that pass of income to come from dividends or I 365 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: want that passive income to come from an investment property, 366 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 1: or I want that passive income to come from, say 367 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: my superannuation. You need to get some clearly defined goals 368 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,719 Speaker 1: to work on, otherwise your financial journey is going to 369 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: feel meaningless and leave you feeling constantly empty, like you 370 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: are working so hard but not actually getting anywhere. When 371 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: you have a goal, you can then compare and see 372 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 1: your progress and go, okay, well, I had a goal 373 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: of forty thousand dollars a year. So far, I've built 374 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: two thousand dollars a year. I'm five percent of away 375 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: in that journey. It may seem small, but seeing that 376 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: first five percent start is an amazing rush of motivation 377 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: that can build that momentum so you keep going. And 378 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: once you start, it does compound. It's not two thousand 379 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: dollars in passive income one year, the next year it's 380 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: four thousand, three hundred, and then the following year it's 381 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: seven nine hundred, and the following year it's eleven thousand, 382 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: eight hundred. You're getting closer and closer to that goal 383 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 1: because you can can see that actually the hard work 384 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 1: is paying off. It inspires you to keep going. So 385 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 1: you've got to track your progress. Track the passive income 386 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: that you're building, and if you like, include the passive 387 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: income within your super obviously knowing you can't touch it, 388 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: but it's part of that financial freedom number that you're 389 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: working towards. Look up some projections if you like, to 390 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: see what you can do to help build more income. 391 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: But my point is you want to have some goals 392 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: to be working on, including debt goals, and you can 393 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: then turn your focus around network. You can then change 394 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: your focus around the debt and the balances to actually 395 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: a net worth figure and a cash flow freedom number, 396 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: which is much more tangible in my opinion, and far 397 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: more motivating, and it's you'll see how you start to 398 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: actually measure your financial independence in a more tangible way, 399 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: which gives you so much, many more reasons to actually 400 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: stay excited and stick to the game plan and financial journey. 401 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: And then finally, I want you to build a plan 402 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: for the next five to ten years. To bring this 403 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: all together. You really do need a roadmap for the 404 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: next decade. Seeing a financial planner would be the best option. 405 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: There is no doubt about it. And you are definitely 406 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: at a crossroad or a point in your life where 407 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: it is time to invest in a financial plan you know, 408 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: a f influencer is not going to help even listening 409 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: to these podcasts. Yes, they're going to help a lot, 410 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: but they're going to educate you. There is so much 411 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: more that you could potentially be doing. We are not 412 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: even scratching the surface here. So yes, I would highly 413 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: recommend you go and see a financial planner. But in 414 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 1: the meantime, if you want keep salary sacrificing and review 415 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: your superannuation, keep working on that student debt. It is 416 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: your first major milestone and an important, proud goal to 417 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: tick off as quickly as possible. The moment that debt 418 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: is gone, go see a financial planner and speak to 419 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 1: a financial planner about what to do in redirecting those payments, 420 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: what is best for your goals, because you now have goals, 421 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 1: clearly defined goals, and they will talk to you about 422 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: a combination of different stores rategies, or which one you 423 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: should focus on first as a priority, which ones you 424 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 1: can think about later. Way a way of like efficiently 425 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: creating all such as recycling could be something really powerful 426 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 1: for you. They can discuss this with you, or even 427 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: just setting up a regular investment plan, and of course 428 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: never stop revisiting your super and if you start investing, 429 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: you're investing portfolio. And another thing that I haven't mentioned 430 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: by will just put it in now because it's not 431 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: the focus of this episode, but make sure you've got 432 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,959 Speaker 1: some personal insurances in place, protecting your mortgage, protecting your income, 433 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: protecting your health and well being, and of course protecting 434 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: your financial stability, particularly as three young children and two 435 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: working parents. You know, a licensed financial planner is going 436 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: to model all of these for you and actually help 437 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: build a really clear path for you to follow to retirement, 438 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: including the super including investing, including the debt reduction strategy. 439 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: Your forty is a really about momentum here, and every 440 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: decision you make right now, every repayment and every investment, 441 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: every contribution, and every time you review your strategy, you 442 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: know it compounds into that financial security and freedom that 443 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: you are going to enjoy with so much relief and 444 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 1: pride later in life. So Jessica please know this, and 445 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 1: everybody else listening to this it can relate to what 446 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: Jessica's asking and what she's talking about. What's I guess 447 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 1: pulling her down right now is you are definitely not behind. 448 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: You are building and I think you're building beautifully. I 449 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: think you're doing really well. You've got clarity, you've clearly 450 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: got discipline, and hopefully now you have purpose and that's 451 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 1: far more valuable than superinnuation, account balances and timing. And 452 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: the truth is the forties can be your financial power decade. 453 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: You're earning more, you're wiser, you got more experienced, and 454 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: hopefully now you've got a financial vision with some passive 455 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: income goals. So to keep going, get that debt cleared, 456 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: grow you're super as you're doing, and redirect that cash 457 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: flow and let compounding do its magic for you. You're 458 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: not catching up, you're actually, in my opinion, catching fire. 459 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: All right, everyone, thank you so much for listening to 460 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: today's episode. If this episode resonated with you, can you 461 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: please go and share it, Send it to five friends 462 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 1: who need to hear this right now, who are in 463 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 1: their forties and feeling a little bit down and frustrated 464 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: at the moment. I think it will really help them. 465 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 1: And if you would like me to answer any of 466 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: your questions in a future episode of Start Here, please 467 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: send me a DM on Instagram at Sugar Mama TV 468 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: or Canna Campbell Official Law. You can send me an 469 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: email in the podcast notes. I'll see you next time 470 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: on Sugar Mamma's Fireplay every Monday morning at five am, 471 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 1: and of course start here every Friday morning at five am. 472 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: Chawfinow