Speaker 1: It is Outsider.
Speaker 2: Good morning, and welcome to Outsiders, the show that is
Speaker 2: to woke identity politics, what Vice President j d Vance
Speaker 2: is to the art of diplomacy?
Speaker 3: What do you mean by diplomacy? What are you talking
Speaker 3: about when you say the close?
Speaker 2: What do you even mean?
Speaker 4: Studio? And you disrespect the host the very stun You've.
Speaker 2: Got a very you've got You've got no cards, You've
Speaker 2: got you've got no cards, You've got no hands on
Speaker 2: the deck. You can't win, you can the only way.
Speaker 2: Let's go to the latest Outsiders news. Yes, the whole
Speaker 2: world is talking about the spat in the Oval office?
Speaker 2: Was it a setup? Was it not to set up?
Speaker 2: Who set up? Who? Was Zelenski? Who set up the others?
Speaker 2: Was a trumpel Vands? Who set up Zelenski? Who knows
Speaker 2: Rita and James? What did you make of it? What
Speaker 2: exciting television? Donald Trump was right about that.
Speaker 4: Oh, it was exciting television.
Speaker 5: And I've been just as excited and appalled by some
Speaker 5: of the so called analysis in the aftermath. Clear that
Speaker 5: most of those doing the analyzing haven't been bothered to
Speaker 5: watch the full fifty three minutes interaction because it wasn't
Speaker 5: just the last five or seven minutes, and it wasn't
Speaker 5: just the fifty three minutes. Is everything that has led
Speaker 5: up to that, and analyse Nielsen just did a very
Speaker 5: good bit of analysis on Sky News and it's one
Speaker 5: of the rare ones that you see in this from
Speaker 5: the Australian media.
Speaker 4: Because it is such surface levels born so much out
Speaker 4: of ignorance.
Speaker 5: If you've been paying attention to US politics over the
Speaker 5: last four years, certainly the last two years, nothing that
Speaker 5: happened should surprise you. The US's position, Donald Trump's position
Speaker 5: on Ukraine has been clear for years and the polling
Speaker 5: in the States backs that up. The American people do
Speaker 5: not want to fund this war. Now you might say
Speaker 5: that's not morally correct. We don't agree with that position.
Speaker 5: That's fine, but that is their position. They don't want
Speaker 5: to pay for this war. They want Europe to pick
Speaker 5: up the slack.
Speaker 2: I think he hit a really good point there is
Speaker 2: So the point is that you can still support Zelensky
Speaker 2: from a moral point of view. Russia should not have invaded.
Speaker 2: You can talk about the whole background, and that's a
Speaker 2: separate thing. But James, you know, you don't invade another country.
Speaker 2: So that's fine, Russia should not have invaded. But there's
Speaker 2: only two ways forward. One way is you stop the war. Now,
Speaker 2: you draw a line and you stop killing. The other
Speaker 2: way is one side has to win that war. Well,
Speaker 2: no one's going to defeat the Russians. You're just not
Speaker 2: going to do it. Maybe you never know, in some
Speaker 2: fantasy novel you could alternately, could the Russians defeat the Ukrainians. Probably,
Speaker 2: the reality is the war has to stop. And Zelensky
Speaker 2: was a fool not to take that moment, not to
Speaker 2: grab that moment and say this is it, let's finish
Speaker 2: the war.
Speaker 3: James, this was an absolute disaster for Zelenski. And the
Speaker 3: evidence was the Ukrainian ambassador to the United States was
Speaker 3: face palming during the press conference, because the whole conference
Speaker 3: is Zelenski is sitting there fidgeting. He wants to make
Speaker 3: a statement. This is Trump's press conference. Let Trump do
Speaker 3: his thing. But to try to argue your point and
Speaker 3: jd Vance didn't provoke this. Zelensky provoked it by trying
Speaker 3: to argue the case in front of everybody.
Speaker 6: You do that behind closed doors.
Speaker 2: And it's interesting you say that because it's almost like
Speaker 2: a microcosm of the war, who provoked who, who's start right,
Speaker 2: Who said diplomacy first? Who said this first?
Speaker 5: A deal that was being worked on that was enormously
Speaker 5: advantageous to Ukraine, and for some crazy reason, Zelenski di
Speaker 5: cided to renegotiate it in front of the world's media
Speaker 5: in the White House. Knowing the positions that Trump and
Speaker 5: Vance have on this entire issue, it was extraordinary. Now
Speaker 5: I do wonder whether it was calculated or whether it
Speaker 5: was just the White House calculat If you watch the
Speaker 5: full fifty three minutes, I don't think any sort of
Speaker 5: same person could say that, because he was goading them repeatedly,
Speaker 5: and Trump was uncharacteristically diplomatic for a good forty forty
Speaker 5: five minutes, sort of letting things go, and even JD.
Speaker 5: Vance let a lot go through to the keeper until
Speaker 5: it just got too much.
Speaker 4: And one thing we've.
Speaker 5: Got to talk about is again, morally, of course, Russia.
Speaker 4: Is in the wrong, Putin is in the wrong.
Speaker 5: They should not be invading a smaller country, They should
Speaker 5: not be taking advantage of the weakness in the White.
Speaker 4: House at that time to do that.
Speaker 5: But we've also got to look at the reality that
Speaker 5: as you said, Ukraine isn't going to win this war.
Speaker 4: We know that, So what are the options?
Speaker 5: And even some of the most art and pro Ukraine
Speaker 5: experts have clearly said there's three options. Either you give
Speaker 5: up and give putin what he wants. Obviously no one
Speaker 5: wants to do that. Or you continue this war. And
Speaker 5: if you actually want to win it, if you want
Speaker 5: Ukraine to win it, you've got to commit forces. You've
Speaker 5: got to commit ground forces, You've got.
Speaker 2: To commit a lot. As Donald Trump said, you've got
Speaker 2: a gamble world War three because the Russians, it's.
Speaker 4: Probably kind of sparked World War three.
Speaker 5: And really all those European countries who are coming and posting,
Speaker 5: tweeting about their support, even our own time minister, are
Speaker 5: you willing to send troops? Are you willing to send troops?
Speaker 5: Are you willing to spend a lot more money?
Speaker 2: Tops James, when you dig up a couple of old
Speaker 2: bushmus masters that are out in the desert there and
Speaker 2: it would stand in the petrol dieseling and send them be.
Speaker 5: Dragged kicking and screaming to or you do a deal.
Speaker 5: You do a deal that's advantageous to Ukraine. And that's
Speaker 5: where we were on the verge of and now that's
Speaker 5: been entirely jeopardized, more people are going to unnecessarily die.
Speaker 4: This war is going to be prolonged for what aim.
Speaker 2: Well, the aim is very clear. It all boils down
Speaker 2: to the idea of some kind of security. Trump believes
Speaker 2: that that security comes simply through having American investment, having
Speaker 2: Wall Street invested in Ukraine, with the raw earth minerals,
Speaker 2: that that by itself, not only the people who are
Speaker 2: working there, but also the security apparatus that would surround
Speaker 2: that is sufficient to deter the Russians. Zolenski believes that
Speaker 2: history tells him that's not the case. That's what the
Speaker 2: whole spat boiled down to. Let's take a quick look
Speaker 2: at a bit of it. Basically, where Trump is you
Speaker 2: pointing out his point of view.
Speaker 7: You went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October.
Speaker 7: Offer some words of appreciation for the United States of
Speaker 7: America and the president who's trying to save your country.
Speaker 8: He wants to make a deal. I don't know if
Speaker 8: you can make a deal. The problem is I've empowered
Speaker 8: you to be a tough guy, and I don't think
Speaker 8: you'd be a tough guy without the United States, and
Speaker 8: your people are very brave.
Speaker 1: But you're either going to make a deal or we're out.
Speaker 8: And if we're out, you'll fight it out. I don't
Speaker 8: think it's going to be pretty, but you'll fight it out.
Speaker 8: But you don't have the cards. But once we signed
Speaker 8: that deal, you're in a much better position. But you're
Speaker 8: not acting at all thankful. And that's not a nice thing.
Speaker 8: I'll be honest, that's not a nice thing. All right,
Speaker 8: I think we've seen enough. What do you think, Uh,
Speaker 8: this is going to be great television?
Speaker 4: Tell you it was great or he had to do.
Speaker 5: Zelenski to finalized this still was Wear a suit, show
Speaker 5: the respect to the Oval Office, to the White House,
Speaker 5: show up, have the negotiations behind closed doors, have a
Speaker 5: nice little meeting in front of the world's media, say
Speaker 5: some damning things about Putin and shake hands and walk away.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you how badly he went.
Speaker 5: Almost immediately after, one of his biggest backers, one of
Speaker 5: the people who has fought hardest for more funding for Ukraine,
Speaker 5: has stood by Zelenski's side, has been a long term
Speaker 5: friend of his despite other than just the political support,
Speaker 5: is Lindsey Graham, and he immediately disowned him, which shocked
Speaker 5: me because I thought he would come out and say
Speaker 5: it was disappointing, but we've got work to do. Let's
Speaker 5: just have a look at what Lindsey Graham said immediately after.
Speaker 6: What I saw in.
Speaker 9: The Oval office was respectful. And I don't know if
Speaker 9: we can ever do business with Zolensky again.
Speaker 10: I don't.
Speaker 9: I think most Americans saw a guy that they would not.
Speaker 6: Want to go in business with.
Speaker 9: The way he handle the meeting, the way he confronted
Speaker 9: the President was just over the top. So I think
Speaker 9: the relationship between Ukraine and America is important, vitally important.
Speaker 9: But can Zolensky do a deal with the United States
Speaker 9: after what I saw?
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 5: And he went on to say Zelenski would either have
Speaker 5: to step down or dramatically change his approach to try
Speaker 5: to salvage something here. So let's talk about what matters,
Speaker 5: because what matters is we want to end this war,
Speaker 5: and we want to stop having Ukrainians die needlessly, and
Speaker 5: we want to have an advantageous still for the for
Speaker 5: the Ukrainians who have suffered over three years.
Speaker 2: Having all the Europeans jumping in immediately armors there this
Speaker 2: morning with Zelenski. The King's going to be seeing Zelenski.
Speaker 2: So last week they were all courting Donald Trump. This
Speaker 2: week they're all rushing off to court Zelensky.
Speaker 3: And you're right, that's the irony for Zelensky is that
Speaker 3: Trump had just met with the French, he had met
Speaker 3: with the British, he'd met with the Polish. So Trump
Speaker 3: was set up having been sympathetic towards Europe. There was
Speaker 3: no need for Zelensky to now go in and poke
Speaker 3: the bear. And if you wanted to talk about the
Speaker 3: importance of security and all that Putin had done in
Speaker 3: breaking ceasefies, he could have talked straight to the media
Speaker 3: rather than taking the discussion to JD. Vance and taking
Speaker 3: them on. And that's the other interesting thing about this.
Speaker 3: You've now got a White House that will not be
Speaker 3: pushed around. Could you imagine Kamala Harris rather than JD.
Speaker 6: Vance. Could you imagine Biden and all that exactly.
Speaker 3: But now all world leaders are on notice. You go
Speaker 3: to the White House, you don't want to be foolish,
Speaker 3: because they will not tolerate fools, which may be a
Speaker 3: reason why Anthony Albaneze has not visited.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's a great point, James. And it is
Speaker 2: a disgrace that our Benizi has zero relationship with Trump.
Speaker 2: Not surprising, but still the disgrace a penny Wong And
Speaker 2: I mean, we are just so on the nose with
Speaker 2: the modern American world, the new Pax American or if
Speaker 2: you like the new world of Donald Trump, we are
Speaker 2: just nowhere to be seen. I hope. Well that changes
Speaker 2: when Peter Dutton wins the election, which is going to
Speaker 2: do in a few weeks time.
Speaker 5: But this also goes to that speech, that groundbreaking speech
Speaker 5: we've spoken about on this program so much that jd
Speaker 5: Vance gave in Europe. Yes, there is a political realignment. Again,
Speaker 5: many political analysts may not like it. It doesn't matter
Speaker 5: if you don't like it. This is the reality. America
Speaker 5: is now an America first approach. They do not want
Speaker 5: to support endless wars overseas. They do not want to
Speaker 5: have a values that are in line with the European elite.
Speaker 5: They are not for open borders, they're not for green
Speaker 5: climate madness, they're not for the cultural stup socialism. Yeah,
Speaker 5: the uah European socialism. There is a divorce happening there.
Speaker 5: And again, this is something the American people voted for.
Speaker 5: Whether you like it or not is immaterial, and the
Speaker 5: polling on this has been very clear.
Speaker 2: It's really all that surprising, James, if you consider that
Speaker 2: in Europe they've gone down the route of net zero,
Speaker 2: which is basically just socialism climate change. They've de industrialized
Speaker 2: the great industrial nations of Europe, Germany and France and others.
Speaker 2: They've deindustrialized themselves. They're reliant on the US for military
Speaker 2: support and cash. They're aligned on the Russians for energy.
Speaker 2: They're socialists. They've got open borders that are destroying their
Speaker 2: welfare states, the complete antithesis to every single Donald Trump policy.
Speaker 2: So no wonder Donald Trump looks at them with absolute
Speaker 2: horror and go. And I think this is what the
Speaker 2: message from the White House yesterday was, Europe. You're on
Speaker 2: your own, take it away, you know your problem. You
Speaker 2: either do it the American way or where out and
Speaker 2: you can sort this mess.
Speaker 6: That was JD's message, wasn't it.
Speaker 3: Why would we spend billions of dollars supporting people who
Speaker 3: don't share our values? And again I go back to
Speaker 3: Anthony Alberanzi. He's got a problem because his values don't
Speaker 3: exactly align with the Trump administration, and Anthony Albanzi does
Speaker 3: not want to be embarrassed on.
Speaker 6: The world stage. You ought to tread very carefully, I think.
Speaker 2: Well, in the direct opposition to Trump, I would say
Speaker 2: everything that Alberanzi stands for.
Speaker 4: Well pretty much.
Speaker 5: An He did come out strongly and make a statement
Speaker 5: about Australia and his support for Ukraine and President Zelenski,
Speaker 5: which is all good and well, but during a week
Speaker 5: when he's been utterly inept, he hasn't actually stood up
Speaker 5: for Australia Whilst we've got Chinese warships not far from
Speaker 5: our from our borders, doing god knows what without advising us,
Speaker 5: sometimes starting these very aggressive maneuvers and then telling us
Speaker 5: about it later. And he just seems to be shrugging
Speaker 5: the shoulders and going well, strictly speaking, they're not breaking
Speaker 5: any international laws, they're in international waters.
Speaker 4: Why they here and doing.
Speaker 5: These exercises so close to us? Obviously it is sending
Speaker 5: a message and it's not a friendly message. And I
Speaker 5: would like to see the Prime Minister be a little
Speaker 5: bit more animated, a little bit more outraged on our
Speaker 5: behalf and making a stand for Australia. That's I think
Speaker 5: would fill people with a great deal of confidence that
Speaker 5: the Prime Minister is seeing what's happening and he's not
Speaker 5: okay with it, and he's bold enough and strong enough
Speaker 5: to make that clear to the Chinese Communist Party instead
Speaker 5: of cowtowing to the Mendless.
Speaker 2: Well, Scott Morrison has come out and said that he
Speaker 2: finds Albow's reaction to the Chinese extremely disturbing. And of
Speaker 2: course Scott Morrison was great and standing up to the
Speaker 2: Chinese and that was one of the highlights, actually one
Speaker 2: of the best things that Scott Morrison did. But James,
Speaker 2: we've now got the news that Peter Dutton is saying
Speaker 2: this morning thirty five jets, billions of dollars to be
Speaker 2: spent on that, and that's a good time to come
Speaker 2: out with this announcement Albanizi and the Chinese weak stuff.
Speaker 3: I'm so glad Dutton's buying stealth fighter jets. Elbow would
Speaker 3: probably come out and buy a few new virgin jets
Speaker 3: so we could have some virgin pilots controlling the borders.
Speaker 6: I just could not.
Speaker 3: Believe the fiasco we had this week where we are
Speaker 3: assured by government ministers that you know, we had the
Speaker 3: highest level of surveillance. If you are surveilling Chinese warships
Speaker 3: and you don't notice their firing live round.
Speaker 2: You don't notice them, ye, and that's the highest.
Speaker 6: Level of surveillance.
Speaker 3: And Richard Marles the Defense Minister to say that, well,
Speaker 3: this wasn't a real threat, therefore our response is irrelevant
Speaker 3: and does not matter. I mean that's what he said.
Speaker 3: He said it wasn't a real threat. It was so
Speaker 3: real forty seven jets had to be diverted. I'm pretty
Speaker 3: sure commercial airliners thought it was a real threat. The
Speaker 3: other thing that the Defense Minister said is he said
Speaker 3: it's not a concern that our close allies New Zealand,
Speaker 3: who were partnering with us in this valance, didn't get
Speaker 3: the message to us until what was it forty to
Speaker 3: fifty minutes later, and he dismissed that as unimportant. It
Speaker 3: gives you zero confidence in this government's ability to defend
Speaker 3: us at all.
Speaker 5: Absolutely well, that didn't even seem to have the will,
Speaker 5: let alone do we even have their ability to do this?
Speaker 5: And I'll be talking about this after the break, but
Speaker 5: Australia possibly should stop antagonizing some of our greatest allies
Speaker 5: during this period because just finally, on what Albanezi said
Speaker 5: in terms of the Ukraine Deal, we're also negotiating an
Speaker 5: exemption to tariffs against Australians still aluminium. Again, I would
Speaker 5: just advise some caution because Australia's interests should be at
Speaker 5: the very top of the prime minister's priority list, above
Speaker 5: everything else, Above virtue signaling about tweeting out something that
Speaker 5: he thinks is going to be popular. What he's got
Speaker 5: to be interested about is Australia First strategy. You might
Speaker 5: want to call it something else because that sounds a
Speaker 5: bit like the Trump agenda, but this is what Australians want.
Speaker 5: We want to have a prime minister that prioritizes our
Speaker 5: country and our interest and our living standards and our
Speaker 5: safety above all else. And I don't think any sort
Speaker 5: of reasonable person can look at the last two and
Speaker 5: a half years and say.
Speaker 2: That, yeah, absolutely, I agree. Virtually everything this government is
Speaker 2: doing is completely at odds with the future path this
Speaker 2: nation needs to take. And this nation needs to get
Speaker 2: on building up our mining, building up our agriculture, building
Speaker 2: up our investment, tracting money from around the world into
Speaker 2: a country which should be the greatest place to do business,
Speaker 2: which should be the greatest place to invest your mining
Speaker 2: or agricultural dollars in, and instead we're doing the complete opposite.
Speaker 2: We're making it as difficult as possible for investment to
Speaker 2: come here. We're driving it away. We are you know,
Speaker 2: this government is so bad it's got to go. But
Speaker 2: we've got to make sure that the coalition does a
Speaker 2: much much better job of putting as Rita says, Australia First.
Speaker 5: One of the most underreported stories I think at the moment, James,
Speaker 5: is the fact that we are in a recession, a
Speaker 5: per capita recession. We've been in it for what's seven
Speaker 5: quarters now. That is something that impacts the living standards
Speaker 5: of Australians. This is something that hurts everyday Australians, and
Speaker 5: it seems to be almost forgotten about.
Speaker 4: We have an influx of migrants coming in.
Speaker 5: Who artificially boost the GDP figures, so we'll say, oh, well,
Speaker 5: we're not really in recession, but the figure that matters
Speaker 5: is the per capita data, and per capita we are
Speaker 5: in recession.
Speaker 4: We have been for some time.
Speaker 3: And if Anthony Albersi was hoping that tiny interest rate
Speaker 3: drop was going to make a scrap of difference to
Speaker 3: anybody's life, let alone voting intention in the next couple
Speaker 3: of months.
Speaker 6: He's kidding himself.
Speaker 3: The other interesting thing this week was Jim Chalmers was
Speaker 3: out selling the government'sconomic message because, according to reports, Labors
Speaker 3: insiders weren't confident of the Prime Minister's ability to sell
Speaker 3: his own economic policies. So this does not bode well
Speaker 3: for Anthony Albanezi if he's lucky enough to win the
Speaker 3: next election. His own team now just don't believe he's
Speaker 3: capable of selling their message.
Speaker 2: Well, he's not capable of selling any message. I mean,
Speaker 2: let's be honest.
Speaker 5: But let's tell the voice with all the support he
Speaker 5: had and all the corporate support, all the actor saw
Speaker 5: that money and lost what sixty forty Now.
Speaker 2: Let's go over to the States to Shamika Michelle who
Speaker 2: joins us. Shamiker, always great to chat to you. You're
Speaker 2: right there at the moment, in the heart of it.
Speaker 2: Or what did you did you enjoy the spectacle the
Speaker 2: great television from the great television maestro himself, Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: You thought the Apprentice was good? Here's the Oval Office
Speaker 2: brought to us all what's the feeling in America? As
Speaker 2: Rita was saying beforehand, Americans relieved that Donald Trump stood
Speaker 2: up to Zelensky and said, We're not going to be
Speaker 2: spending any more money on you. You've got to make
Speaker 2: a piece. Still, what's the attitude in America, Shamaika?
Speaker 11: Yeah, obviously the left is having a fit, right, They're crazy.
Speaker 11: They are going to go against everything simply because they
Speaker 11: don't care about the American people. If it was up
Speaker 11: to them, we would just keep sending billions and billions
Speaker 11: of dollars over to Ukraine while Americans actually suffer and
Speaker 11: can barely pay for eggs. But for the rest of us,
Speaker 11: those of us who have common sense in any type
Speaker 11: of sanity, we are so grateful for President Trump.
Speaker 4: This, what we saw this.
Speaker 11: Display in the White House yesterday is exactly what we
Speaker 11: voted for him for. We want someone who is tough,
Speaker 11: someone who is going to put America first, and someone
Speaker 11: who's just not afraid to be hated. Trump is not
Speaker 11: afraid for people to criticize him, and we appreciate that.
Speaker 11: And for those of us that campaigned over the last
Speaker 11: four years after what happened, in twenty twenty four. We
Speaker 11: are really just basket and glory right now, we are
Speaker 11: so happy.
Speaker 5: Well, this is what a lot of people don't understand Shamika,
Speaker 5: particularly here in Australia, that this wouldn't have come as
Speaker 5: an enormous surprise to Americans. This was something that Donald
Speaker 5: Trump has talked about, is campaigned about. They don't want
Speaker 5: to see billions going from America to Ukraine, no matter
Speaker 5: how good that cause may be. It is something that
Speaker 5: the American public have changed their mind on because back
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty.
Speaker 4: Two there was support.
Speaker 5: For the amount of funding that was going to Ukraine,
Speaker 5: but even by last year it was clear it was
Speaker 5: only a minority position. So tell me about that change
Speaker 5: where people were quite happy for America to fund Ukraine's defense,
Speaker 5: but now they have said no more.
Speaker 11: You know, I think for those who actually initially supported it,
Speaker 11: they didn't really expect it.
Speaker 4: To be the amount that it has been.
Speaker 11: Not only that, you have to remember we've had an
Speaker 11: influx of illegal immigrants that have come across that have
Speaker 11: just really put a burden on things, and people are angry.
Speaker 11: People in the inner cities have said, hey, you're bringing
Speaker 11: all of these illegal immigrants in they get you know, checks,
Speaker 11: and they get all of this cash. We're sending all
Speaker 11: of this money to Ukraine. And I really think all
Speaker 11: of those things compiled is why Trump won and it's
Speaker 11: why the Democrats lost. And I do think some of
Speaker 11: the Democrats are saying, hey, wait a minute, what's going on,
Speaker 11: or just some of the more sensible Republicans. But there
Speaker 11: are people like myself whose pockets have always been touching
Speaker 11: a little pit, that have been a little thin, that
Speaker 11: never wanted this money to go anywhere but to those
Speaker 11: here in America in need. Like I understand that we
Speaker 11: have to do some type of foreign aid and we
Speaker 11: have to help people in need at times, but it's just.
Speaker 4: Been a lot.
Speaker 11: Biden was a terrible president, and he really cared more
Speaker 11: about putting himself in a better stance, I think, with
Speaker 11: his own personal pockets than actually doing what we needed
Speaker 11: him to do in America for Americans. And so I
Speaker 11: think it's just a compiled, a compiled amount of things
Speaker 11: that people are saying, no more, we're tired, and something
Speaker 11: has to change here. You know, when eggs are thirteen
Speaker 11: dollars a dozen, I think people are just saying something
Speaker 11: has to change. If we have this amount of money,
Speaker 11: let's funnel it into those who are most in need.
Speaker 3: James Schamiker give us an insight into the thinking of
Speaker 3: Donald Trump. I mean, he referred to Zelenski as a dictator.
Speaker 3: Then he kind of walked that back. Trump had made
Speaker 3: a big deal about the fact he was going to
Speaker 3: bring peace. He's since tweeted after this meeting that Zelensky's
Speaker 3: not ready for peace. He should come back when he's ready.
Speaker 3: Where does this go from here? What's Trump's thinking on
Speaker 3: the future of this negotiation?
Speaker 11: You know, I really think Trump just didn't like the disrespect.
Speaker 11: If we watch from the beginning of the meeting, uh,
Speaker 11: Zelensky was already disrespectful, the way he came in, dressed,
Speaker 11: his body language. There were times when Trump said something
Speaker 11: and Zolensky he rolled his eyes up in his head,
Speaker 11: or he would mess with his nose, or it's like
Speaker 11: he was completely uncomfortable with the things that was being said.
Speaker 11: So I can only imagine if I'm watching this in
Speaker 11: what I'm seeing, what the energy.
Speaker 2: Was like in the room.
Speaker 11: So I think if he actually comes back with a
Speaker 11: different approach, then perhaps Trump is going to steal you
Speaker 11: go after the help because I do think think.
Speaker 4: Trump wants the war to stop.
Speaker 11: I do think that he's concerned about the people and
Speaker 11: he wants to make a peace deal. But Trump is
Speaker 11: just not the type of man that's gonna let someone
Speaker 11: disrespect them, and I think Zolensky came in with the
Speaker 11: ultimate Napoleon complex, just being very disrespectful from the start,
Speaker 11: and I think that Trump is not having it. Thank God,
Speaker 11: we have a very outspoken Vice president JD. Vance is
Speaker 11: not having it. And I think that Zolensky needs to
Speaker 11: go back, think about his actions and come forward with
Speaker 11: the appreciation that they said he should have, because he should,
Speaker 11: and I think he just hasn't had to have that before.
Speaker 11: He was able to come and say whatever he wanted
Speaker 11: to during the Biden administration, and now those things have changed.
Speaker 11: So but I do think that Trump really wants the
Speaker 11: war to stop and he's ready to help with a
Speaker 11: peace deal. But Zolensky has to get over himself, and
Speaker 11: he needs to do it quickly.
Speaker 5: It seems like Zelenski is not fully appreciating that the
Speaker 5: people he needs most are no longer in power. So
Speaker 5: he's got all the Europeans and countries around the world
Speaker 5: who are full of praise, but they're not going to
Speaker 5: send troops, they're not going to send money, they're not
Speaker 5: going to arm Ukraine, so they're not going to.
Speaker 4: Help his war war effort.
Speaker 5: And obviously the Democrats are very receptive to his message.
Speaker 5: But now there's a change in administration, it seems Tamika,
Speaker 5: he went in there not appreciating. I think Trump made
Speaker 5: the comment about you're not holding too many cards winning cards.
Speaker 5: He's not holding cards. Ukraine needs America. America doesn't need Ukraine,
Speaker 5: And sadly that's just the reality of the situation.
Speaker 11: That's the reality. And hopefully Zolenski actually comes, you know,
Speaker 11: we would call it a come to Jesus meeting. Hopefully
Speaker 11: he has a come to Jesus meeting and he understands
Speaker 11: that there is a new sheriff in town. And after
Speaker 11: what Trump has been through over the last eight years,
Speaker 11: I think this administration or this term is going to
Speaker 11: be a lot different than what we saw when he
Speaker 11: was in office in twenty sixteen. I really think that
Speaker 11: a lot of the promises that he has made, he's
Speaker 11: going to do everything in his power to keep them
Speaker 11: for the American people, and so I just think, you know,
Speaker 11: Zelenski didn't know what he was walking into. I do
Speaker 11: think he has a chance to turn it around. But
Speaker 11: I'm just grateful that we have a president that will
Speaker 11: not be walked over. He will be respected, and for
Speaker 11: those of us who voted for him, we will have
Speaker 11: his back every step of the way.
Speaker 2: Now, Shamiker, you mentioned the price of eggs thirteen dollars
Speaker 2: a dozen more than a dollar an egg? How long
Speaker 2: does Donald Trump have before public sentiments sort of says, well,
Speaker 2: when the price is coming down. He forced on you know,
Speaker 2: one of his platforms was that Biden's inflation was out
Speaker 2: of control. When do the you know, the average American household,
Speaker 2: are they expecting prices to come down or do they
Speaker 2: just think it's now rusted in and that's it.
Speaker 11: No, I do think people are expecting for it to
Speaker 11: come down. If you're on the left, he was a
Speaker 11: week end and they was saying, oh, it's been you
Speaker 11: know what happened to voting for him to bring the
Speaker 11: prices down? And most of us were like, he's been
Speaker 11: in office a week, you know. So I do think again,
Speaker 11: those of us that actually have common sense are going
Speaker 11: to give it some time, but we do want to
Speaker 11: see that he's making the effort to make the changes,
Speaker 11: and I think that he is. They are actually aware
Speaker 11: of how much egg prices are.
Speaker 4: They're aware of.
Speaker 11: How much everything costs right now, and so I do
Speaker 11: think that we're going to begin to see some changes
Speaker 11: simply because they care. We didn't have that when Biden
Speaker 11: was in office. They just kept telling us, oh, prices
Speaker 11: are not high, and those of us going to the
Speaker 11: grocery store were like, you know, it is high. But
Speaker 11: this is the difference with this administration. Trump knows, he sees,
Speaker 11: and he cares, and so I do expect the prices
Speaker 11: to start coming down, and I think he'll have some
Speaker 11: time with sensible Americans again. The other side, they've been
Speaker 11: complaining since a week in office, and I just think
Speaker 11: we're gonna hear them complain for the next four years.
Speaker 11: Eggs could go back to being seventy seven cent a dozen,
Speaker 11: and then they're still going to complain the shell isn't
Speaker 11: white enough or brown enough, or it's gonna be something.
Speaker 11: It's always something.
Speaker 2: Mega, Michelle, you know the left only too well. You've
Speaker 2: seen it all. Thanks so much for chatting to us.
Speaker 2: From the States from North Carolina. Thanks after the break,
Speaker 2: Greeta's reality check. What's more here on Outsiders Don't Go Away.
Speaker 5: You're watching Outsiders with your host Rowan Dean, James McPherson,
Speaker 5: and I'm Rita Panny And soon we'll be delving into
Speaker 5: the wacky world of academia and how your taxes are
Speaker 5: funding more anti Australian, anti Western civilization activism.
Speaker 4: But first, some awful news.
Speaker 5: Fanthony albanezy this morning as the latest polling shows he
Speaker 5: is facing an electoral backlash in Victoria, once so severe
Speaker 5: that it could see the Socialist Republic of Victoria deliver.
Speaker 4: The most seats to Peter Dutton. Yes.
Speaker 5: According to today's red Bridge polling, Labor's facing an electoral
Speaker 5: disaster and Victoria and risks losing eight seats to the
Speaker 5: Coalition in marginal seats including Aston, Casey, Chisholm, Krangermite and Mensi's.
Speaker 5: Labour's two party preferred vote has gone from fifty one
Speaker 5: point four percent of the last election to four twenty
Speaker 5: three percent.
Speaker 4: That's the two party preferred If Redbridge's data.
Speaker 5: Is accurate and they are a Labor aligned polling company, well,
Speaker 5: Labor are in all sorts of trouble in Victoria, and
Speaker 5: already they're all throwing each other under the bus, with
Speaker 5: Labor insiders telling the Herald Son it's all Dan Andrews
Speaker 5: and just into Allen's fault. The polling in today's paper
Speaker 5: shows that in a cost of living election, it's Peter
Speaker 5: Dutton's Liberal National Coalition that voters trust most when it
Speaker 5: comes to economic matters. On crucial issues like cost of
Speaker 5: living and housing, as well as crime and health, the
Speaker 5: coalition is ahead of Labor. So expect to see another
Speaker 5: medi scare style campaign coming from the ALP at this election,
Speaker 5: and expect to see more absurd hit pieces on Peter
Speaker 5: Dutton and his supposed property portfolio, or to try to
Speaker 5: prop up the Prime Minister, who now trails the Opposition
Speaker 5: leader on a range of issues. The poll shows that
Speaker 5: the Opposition leader leads the PM on strength, ability to inspire, hope,
Speaker 5: shared values with voters, and he is also considered to
Speaker 5: have the better economic plan for Australia. That characteristic strength
Speaker 5: and also shared values. That's a big one and we've
Speaker 5: seen that over the past seventeen months, not just in
Speaker 5: domestic policy, with Labour's race obsessions, but also with the
Speaker 5: country's foreign policy.
Speaker 4: Where Labor has disgracefully.
Speaker 5: Abandoned a key ally at the UN during their darkest days,
Speaker 5: Israeli's reeling from October seven, the biggest slaughter of Jews
Speaker 5: since the Holocaust, have watched a gas as former staunch
Speaker 5: ally in Australia has waivered. We've been weak, inconsistent, sometimes
Speaker 5: even antagonistic. At home, there's been an unwillingness from Labor,
Speaker 5: from the Prime Minister down to meaningfully address the scourge
Speaker 5: of anti Semitism.
Speaker 4: But it's on the global.
Speaker 5: Stage WHEREABA has really disgraced itself and Australia by splitting
Speaker 5: from the US and Israel at the United Nations on
Speaker 5: critical votes that impact the only Jewish state. This week
Speaker 5: we learned that Foreign Minister Penniwong had failed to meet
Speaker 5: the Israeli representatives, including Benjamin Ettinyahoo at the UN in September,
Speaker 5: but she managed to sit down with representatives from the Palestine,
Speaker 5: Palestinian Authority and Iran, Yes, the same Iran that's the
Speaker 5: chief backer of terrorist groups including Hamas and Hezbila. Wog
Speaker 5: then saw fit to lecture Israel about a two state
Speaker 5: solution and demanded a clear timeline for the international declaration
Speaker 5: of Palestinian statehood, a fantasy at the best of times,
Speaker 5: but particularly during the time of war.
Speaker 4: Australia then broke away.
Speaker 5: From Israel and the US Abbogist allies and abstained from
Speaker 5: a Palestinian resolution. But as we've discussed on this program,
Speaker 5: Labour's betrayal.
Speaker 4: Of Israel was about to get worse.
Speaker 5: By December, thanks to Anthony Albanesi and Penny Wong, Australia
Speaker 5: had gone from being a staunche supporter of Israel to
Speaker 5: one that abstains from crucial votes to siding with the bullies.
Speaker 5: At the UN, Australia voted in favor of the resolution
Speaker 5: demanding Israel bring to an end its unlawful presence in
Speaker 5: the Occupied Palestine territory as rapidly as possible as shameful capitulation.
Speaker 5: You can say plenty about Opposition leader Peter Dutten's refusal
Speaker 5: to lean into some important debates, but he has been
Speaker 5: consistent and clear eyed when it comes to Israel and
Speaker 5: the rise of antisemitism. He has shown moral courage and clarity,
Speaker 5: sadly lacking in the PM and Foreign Minster Wong. It's
Speaker 5: a little wonder that the polling shows that even one
Speaker 5: from a labour aliened firm shows that the PM trails
Speaker 5: Peter Dutton when it comes to strength and values. The
Speaker 5: Albanesi government should feel great shame for the way it
Speaker 5: has treated Israel during its darkest days.
Speaker 4: Now, by no means will this be a key election issue.
Speaker 5: We understand that for the overwhelming majority of Australians it's
Speaker 5: not the key election issue, but it signals weakness and
Speaker 5: that ineptitude. That broken far left ideology of modern labor
Speaker 5: is evident elsewhere and Australia deserves better.
Speaker 2: Brilliant Thanks Rita, and you're one hundred percent correct. When
Speaker 2: the Albanesi government is gone, the Albanesi one government has gone,
Speaker 2: which will be pretty soon. The legacy it leaves is
Speaker 2: the appalling treatment of Israel, but also of Australian Jews.
Speaker 2: No government has done so little for Australian Jews, and
Speaker 2: in fact, no government has done so much to encourage
Speaker 2: the disgusting outbreaks of anti Semitism which we have seen
Speaker 2: in this country. That sits firmly on the heads of
Speaker 2: anti Albanesian penny. Make no mistake, throw into the mix
Speaker 2: the teals who signed that letter. I have the letter
Speaker 2: that they all signed calling for more of your money
Speaker 2: to go to Aunwa. We now know that Aunoir is
Speaker 2: basically a front for Hamas, so Australian tax dollars were
Speaker 2: going to pay for slay. But here, closer to home,
Speaker 2: yet again, more anti semitism on the streets of Sydney.
Speaker 2: We saw the other evening a very popular cafe in
Speaker 2: Rose Bay in Sydney, in the Eastern Suburbs. I've been
Speaker 2: to the cafe. It's a great cafe, does the best
Speaker 2: bagels in Sydney. Jesse's Cafe. It's called Smashed Windows and
Speaker 2: scenes reminiscent of Crystal Nach. They had their windows smash
Speaker 2: the other evening. There's the photo of it. Absolutely disgusting.
Speaker 2: I hope someone is arrested and I hope they are
Speaker 2: brought to account. But can I just make a plea
Speaker 2: to anyone who's in the Eastern Suburbs, either today or
Speaker 2: over the next couple of days. Jesse's Cafe does, as
Speaker 2: I said, the best bagels in Sydney. It's open till
Speaker 2: three o'clock Thesavo. It's opened during the week. Go along
Speaker 2: say that outside has asked you to go along, spend
Speaker 2: as much money as you can there and show these
Speaker 2: bastards who are wandering our streets and vandalizing Jewish shops
Speaker 2: and businesses that we the Australian people, do not stand
Speaker 2: for it. So go to Jesse's Cafe. It's there in
Speaker 2: the old south Head Road in Sydney today. Turn up
Speaker 2: the savo, have a few bagels, have a coffee at
Speaker 2: a great time. But let's show these bastards that we're
Speaker 2: not going to stand for it at all. Anyway. We've
Speaker 2: also seen all sorts of other scenes, James. We've seen
Speaker 2: the most disgraceful scenes outside schools. I don't even want
Speaker 2: to go into it. How Australia ever got to a
Speaker 2: point where we have basically full blown Islamist rhetorica being
Speaker 2: spewed out hatefully from our schools just disgust me.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, yeah, I mean those scenes were absolutely shocking
Speaker 3: that you could have children yelling those sort of slogans
Speaker 3: from this schoolyard, encouraged by activists standing on the street
Speaker 3: who are given cut blanche opportunity to encourage those kids.
Speaker 3: It's not the Australia, any of us knew ten fifteen
Speaker 3: years ago. You know, you talk about Jesse's cafe at
Speaker 3: Rose Bay there, and the really sad thing is you
Speaker 3: were talking is I'm thinking, what sixteen eighteen months ago
Speaker 3: that would have been shocking, but you're relaying that news
Speaker 3: and it's just not that shocking anymore. It's an everyday occurrence.
Speaker 3: And who would have ever thought we would be in
Speaker 3: this position. It's just disgusting and it's not the Australia
Speaker 3: we want, and you're absolutely right, it's not good enough
Speaker 3: for people to be privately disgusted. The only way to
Speaker 3: push back is to do what you suggested, go and
Speaker 3: support Jewish people when they are persecuted like that, and
Speaker 3: show tangibly we are with you. It's not just a
Speaker 3: quiet conversation between us. Tangibly, we're helping to push back.
Speaker 5: Well, talking about cafes, I remember December being in a
Speaker 5: cafe in Israel right close to the Palace to the
Speaker 5: Gaza border, and it was a crowded cafe and there
Speaker 5: was a group of us there from Australia, probably six
Speaker 5: or seven and people were asked where are you guys
Speaker 5: from said Australian, and there's like do you hate us
Speaker 5: like everyone else in Australia.
Speaker 4: That was the comment back the.
Speaker 2: Rest entirely on Albanisian wong entirely, that's all down to
Speaker 2: their appalling leadership.
Speaker 5: The treatment of Jews in this country, the tolerance we've
Speaker 5: had for anti Semitism from authorities, including state police forces and.
Speaker 4: The Prime Minister down.
Speaker 5: This normalization of anti Semitism almost has definitely had an
Speaker 5: impact on Australia's standing in Israel. They think this is
Speaker 5: a widespread view. They don't understand sometimes because all these
Speaker 5: reports coming out one.
Speaker 4: After another after another.
Speaker 5: They don't understand. This is a small radical friinge. This
Speaker 5: does not represent the views of everyday Australian. So in
Speaker 5: that cafe they were very happy to learn that. But
Speaker 5: the perception of Australia has changed dramatically.
Speaker 2: In Isidae, and Australians also have to understand that it
Speaker 2: might be the Jewish Cafe or Green Races or whatever
Speaker 2: this week, the bagel shop, whatever. But if these bullies
Speaker 2: and thugs like the Nazis in the nineteen thirties can
Speaker 2: get away with it with the Jesse's Cafe or anywhere else,
Speaker 2: don't think they're not coming for you.
Speaker 3: Because they will ron just on that you and I
Speaker 3: had an opportunity to meet with the Israeli ambassador to Australia,
Speaker 3: and without telling tales out of school, one of the
Speaker 3: interesting things he said was he said he was most
Speaker 3: concerned not by the usual suspects sprouting anti Semitism, but
Speaker 3: he said he was shocked by the silence of the
Speaker 3: majority of Australians. And I thought that was a really
Speaker 3: poignant point and it just reminded me how much it
Speaker 3: does mean to the Jewish community when just normal, everyday,
Speaker 3: quiet Australians actually speak a word of encouragement, get involved
Speaker 3: in on.
Speaker 2: The south Head Road, Jesse's Cafe, head on down there
Speaker 2: ret We had some great reporting by Shari on her
Speaker 2: excellent program. I urged you to watch it. Of an evening,
Speaker 2: Tony Burke has been told or urged to block Australians
Speaker 2: returning from the hez Boler leader's funeral. I mean, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: if that's not automatic grounds for canceling your citizenship, banging
Speaker 2: you off out of this country. I'm not sure what
Speaker 2: is Oh, where are you going on my trip abroad? Oh,
Speaker 2: I'm off to the Hezboller funeral. I'm going to take
Speaker 2: some flowers and sit there at Israela's whatever his name was.
Speaker 2: I mean, seriously, it is. We've got people like Georgia Maloney,
Speaker 2: the Italian Prime Minister. Brilliant job she's doing, but she's
Speaker 2: raising the question about the Islamification of Europe and it's
Speaker 2: something that Australia needs to consider as well.
Speaker 5: I would argue, well, we've got an election coming up
Speaker 5: and they are very much worried about several western Sydney
Speaker 5: seats with significant Muslim populations. So I don't think Tony
Speaker 5: Burke will be taking this.
Speaker 4: Suggestion on just quietly.
Speaker 5: I don't think you'll be doing anything on that issue whatsoever,
Speaker 5: because it's a numbers game.
Speaker 4: I think that's how they look at it.
Speaker 5: A lot of it is motivated, obviously by self interest,
Speaker 5: by wanting to hold onto those seats, but I think
Speaker 5: it's also ideological when it comes to modern labor. It's
Speaker 5: not just well, there's eight times I think more people
Speaker 5: in the Muslim community than there are in the Jewish
Speaker 5: community in Australia and they tend to be in these seats.
Speaker 5: I think it is deeply ideological. They have this far left,
Speaker 5: anti West, anti Israel view. It's this worldview that is
Speaker 5: just prevalent amongst the left around the world now and
Speaker 5: it's hard to have them see.
Speaker 4: Things differently from that.
Speaker 5: Because we did think, even with this government that they
Speaker 5: were going to remain consistent when it came to the
Speaker 5: UN in backing Israel, but no, they went very quickly
Speaker 5: from voting with Israel to abstaining to then voting with.
Speaker 4: The Bullies. Essentially, when you.
Speaker 3: Mentioned Tony Burke being reluctant to do anything because of
Speaker 3: course they are looking at those Western Sydney seats and
Speaker 3: you mentioned a school in Granville Boys High, I mean
Speaker 3: that's in Jason Clair's electorate and he's the Education Minister
Speaker 3: and he was asked by The Australian to comment on
Speaker 3: those dreadful scenes at the school and surprise, surprise, Jason
Speaker 3: Claire never got back to The Australian with any comment,
Speaker 3: and of course he didn't. But when you've got the
Speaker 3: Education Minister not commenting on scenes like that in schools
Speaker 3: because it affects his electorate, you've got a real problem.
Speaker 2: We've got three thousand people coming in from Gaza, We've
Speaker 2: got thousands coming in from Afghanistan and elsewhere. Well, Australians
Speaker 2: have got to decide. We've got an election coming up.
Speaker 2: You've got to decide, folks, this is the future for Australia.
Speaker 2: You want go and vote for it, or you can
Speaker 2: vote against it. That's the beauty of a.
Speaker 4: Democracy, so vote against it.
Speaker 5: And we can also actually have values like assimilation that
Speaker 5: are celebrated as opposed to de crite. There's nothing wrong
Speaker 5: with saying if you want to come to this country,
Speaker 5: you're welcome, but you live by our values.
Speaker 4: You leave behind.
Speaker 5: Whatever hatreds, whatever backward attitudes you might have, whatever your
Speaker 5: cultural position is, that is in conflict with us.
Speaker 4: We trump, we trumpet.
Speaker 2: You want to live here caruelled assimilation, it's called integration,
Speaker 2: and the left regarded as racism. So there you go.
Speaker 2: Assimilation and integration used to be the policies of this country.
Speaker 2: Labor and the left got rid of all that and
Speaker 2: the liberals went along with it. There you go, after
Speaker 2: the rate. Lots more coming up. See you in a
Speaker 2: teach you're watching Outsiders, and thank you so much for
Speaker 2: watching us every Sunday morning here with Rita and with
Speaker 2: James McPherson filling in for the other James makes our
Speaker 2: life easier when there's James James. James James, it's the rule.
Speaker 4: We have only another James can.
Speaker 2: Feeling net Zany the insane world of net zero. I
Speaker 2: love reading these things because they get funnier and funnier,
Speaker 2: and they don't realize how funny. Let me just read
Speaker 2: this to you. The Climate Council ozs the hot spot's
Speaker 2: too dangerous to live in by twenty ninety. And this
Speaker 2: is a real estate dot com dot au thing, the
Speaker 2: rise of lethal heat. It's now lethal heat reader. I
Speaker 2: thought we the global boiling that went out onto lethal
Speaker 2: heat hitting pockets of Australia has been forecaster driver reverse
Speaker 2: migration from the nations north to itself, starting in as
Speaker 2: little as five years. Oh my goodness, the data shows
Speaker 2: there will be I mean it's twenty ninety, but it
Speaker 2: starts in five years. Their maths ain't that good for
Speaker 2: the real estate to counsel. I'm surprised or whoever they are,
Speaker 2: the Massive Council Climate Council, Well, they're both involved in
Speaker 2: it worst case scenario for climate change. And then they
Speaker 2: go on and on with all the hot spots and
Speaker 2: where not to buy a house because of climate change
Speaker 2: starting in five years time. It always starts in five
Speaker 2: years time, but twenty ninety is when you're going to
Speaker 2: be look out where.
Speaker 5: The lethalness comes in. Yes, well this is just fantastics.
Speaker 5: We've got this genius crew who obviously got together and
Speaker 5: worked out that it gets pretty hot in Australia during
Speaker 5: summer in the north.
Speaker 4: So yeah, well done on that.
Speaker 5: As parts of Australia you have you couldn't live in
Speaker 5: really in the summer.
Speaker 3: Now, and the boss of the Climate Council says that
Speaker 3: he's got staff who are already moving to Tasmania to
Speaker 3: escape the lethal heat that starts in yet.
Speaker 5: A visa process people that can't come back to the mainland.
Speaker 2: Now, Well, modeling, I love modeling because you know it's
Speaker 2: not necessarily true. I was going to I have to
Speaker 2: put them not necessarily, but anyway, modeling finds Victoria gas
Speaker 2: policy would result in emissions reductions of eighteen million tons.
Speaker 2: That sounds all dandy until you get to the cost
Speaker 2: of twenty two billion dollars. I was talking rich earlier
Speaker 2: about the way we are destroying the prosperity of this country,
Speaker 2: the economic ability of this country to make money, and
Speaker 2: this is just a classic example. So you the Victorians
Speaker 2: rita up twenty two billion. Now, where does that money
Speaker 2: come from? Jacinra Allen doesn't have it. It comes out
Speaker 2: of the pocket of every single Victorian who has to
Speaker 2: go to work, get up early, have a job, working
Speaker 2: at whatever they're doing, to pay money that then gets
Speaker 2: squandered by these idiots twenty two billion to reduce some
Speaker 2: carbon emissions, which will never make any difference to anything,
Speaker 2: because China, even if you care about carbon emissions, which
Speaker 2: I don't, but if you do, China is just emitting
Speaker 2: way more than whatever. And the rest of the world.
Speaker 5: Victus wouldn't they They're building coul fire plants all over
Speaker 5: the place, so there's going to be more than twelve
Speaker 5: hundred dollars per time.
Speaker 4: This is just crazy stuff. And in a state like Victoria.
Speaker 5: Where we are sitting on hundreds of years, if not
Speaker 5: thousands of years of reserve, but we're not doing the exploration,
Speaker 5: and the gas bills of Victorians are astronomical.
Speaker 4: And we have the biggest state debt in the country.
Speaker 5: So you know, it's the trifecta right there. We're winning
Speaker 5: on refront. It is sad, It really is just sounds.
Speaker 2: To a little bit of wacademia. Yes, it's the wacky
Speaker 2: world of academia, James. And I'm a settler. I just
Speaker 2: learned I'm a settler. That's true. My ancestors were settlers,
Speaker 2: but I'm a settler now as well. James, tell us
Speaker 2: all about what we're learning at mcquari univer Well, I've.
Speaker 3: Got first hand experience of this wrong because one of
Speaker 3: my sons goes to Macquarie Universe. So I do want
Speaker 3: him to be a communists studying physiotherapy. But to complete
Speaker 3: his physio degree, he has to go through a module
Speaker 3: on First Nations cultural appreciation and on sustainability. And as
Speaker 3: part of this first nation's cultural appreciation module, he and
Speaker 3: other students are being told that they are settlers and
Speaker 3: guests in this country. My question is, of course, if
Speaker 3: my sons are guests in this country, what country do
Speaker 3: they actually call home?
Speaker 2: Well, they don't. And this is the point, that's the
Speaker 2: whole point of this entire welcome to country acknowledgment of country.
Speaker 2: It is telling you you don't belong here. Now, this
Speaker 2: isn't just some oh let's be nice and touch you
Speaker 2: feely do a little bit of smooth an idiot monique rhyme,
Speaker 2: who're albo breathing in all the smoking. I mean, what
Speaker 2: morons seriously. But the downside is that they are telling
Speaker 2: you you don't own your property, you don't have any
Speaker 2: kind of sovereignty over this place. The money you're paying
Speaker 2: on your mortgage doesn't it's not yours. You don't belong here.
Speaker 2: You're a guest, you're a settler, and they will get
Speaker 2: rid of you if they can. That's what the whole
Speaker 2: agenda is about. And you're a moron if you don't
Speaker 2: see it retail.
Speaker 4: It is so clear.
Speaker 5: It's just saying Australia is not legitimate because it was
Speaker 5: an evasion day. It wasn't you know where we came
Speaker 5: here and we slaughtered the locals, and our presence here
Speaker 5: is not legitimate.
Speaker 4: And yes, you're.
Speaker 5: Always, was, always will be the welcome to countries, acknowledgment
Speaker 5: of countries. It's just a polite way of saying, go
Speaker 5: back to where you came from. That's as a migrant
Speaker 5: to this country. That's how I've always received that. That's
Speaker 5: exactly what basically, and welcome someone to their own home.
Speaker 5: So and this is my home. I'm Australian. I don't
Speaker 5: need anybody else because of their ethnicity to tell me
Speaker 5: that I'm welcome here.
Speaker 2: And full marks to Leah.
Speaker 6: You asked me how to pronounce your name before the show.
Speaker 4: I had a.
Speaker 6: Perfect rowan and now I've blown it.
Speaker 2: Leah the Territory.
Speaker 1: We love you.
Speaker 2: Well done for refusing to do the welcome of the
Speaker 2: country this week on the grounds that it wasn't necessary.
Speaker 2: We've all been rehearsing your name because we're going to
Speaker 2: be hearing a lot more about you because you're obviously
Speaker 2: a very talented Well done. Well done, Thank you, James.
Speaker 2: We'll take a short in a tick on Outsiders. Hello,
Speaker 2: you're watching Outsiders with Rita Panahee and with James McPherson
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Speaker 2: because James Morrow has a brilliant show. Every Sunday evening
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Speaker 2: until the election, which will be great. Now all the
Speaker 2: world's are stage, and all the men and women nearly players.
Speaker 2: They have their exits and their entrances, and one man
Speaker 2: in his time plays many parts. That is, of course,
Speaker 2: from Shakespeare's As you like it, No matter how you
Speaker 2: prefer your theatrical deliance comedy, tragedy, high drama, or a
Speaker 2: combination of all free it has certainly felt this week
Speaker 2: like we're living in some crazy Hollywood movie with the
Speaker 2: dramatic twists and turns the villains and the heroes. On
Speaker 2: the shakespe Experience stage of Donald Trump's Oval office, there
Speaker 2: have been the court jesters bearing letters from the King.
Speaker 12: It is my pleasure to bring from His Majesty the
Speaker 12: King a letter.
Speaker 10: He sends his.
Speaker 1: Best wishes and his regards, of course, but.
Speaker 12: He also asked me to bear this letter and bring
Speaker 12: it to you. So can I present a letter from
Speaker 12: m King?
Speaker 1: Take you very much supposed to read it right now?
Speaker 2: Please do it, and along with the ad libbing, no
Speaker 2: shortage of great one liners.
Speaker 12: Between our two countries. That is why this is the
Speaker 12: greatest alliance for prosperity and security I think the world
Speaker 12: has ever seen. Whenever necessary, we absolutely backed each other up.
Speaker 1: And that's could you take on by yourselves?
Speaker 2: Well, Starmer is, of course an actor of unparalleled abilities,
Speaker 2: able to portray a sense of bonomy and rapport with
Speaker 2: a man who only a few short years ago he
Speaker 2: couldn't bear sight of.
Speaker 12: Of course, I wouldn't want Donald Trump round for dinner,
Speaker 12: But don't underestimate the danger to the world if Trump
Speaker 12: is re elected this time around.
Speaker 10: I'm anti Trump.
Speaker 2: Hmmm. Of course it's very different now with mister Starmer
Speaker 2: playing the role to perfection of Donald Trump's greatest admirer.
Speaker 2: Just watch the body language.
Speaker 12: Well, I haven't got yet, it is your answer.
Speaker 1: I do need the entry.
Speaker 2: Lots of laughs, but eager to change the dramatic values.
Speaker 2: Trump's vice president J. D. Evans deliberately threw a spanner
Speaker 2: in the works and raised the curtain on that irksome
Speaker 2: topic of free speech.
Speaker 1: I said what I said, which is that we do, have, of.
Speaker 7: Course a special relationship with our friends in the UK
Speaker 7: and also with some of our European allies.
Speaker 10: But we also know that there have.
Speaker 7: Been infringements on free speech that actually affect not just
Speaker 7: the British, of course what the British doing their own
Speaker 7: country is up to them, but also affect American technology
Speaker 7: companies and by extension, American citizens. So that is something
Speaker 7: that we'll talk about today at launching.
Speaker 12: We've had every speech for a very very long time
Speaker 12: in the United Kingdom and it.
Speaker 1: Will last for a very very long time.
Speaker 12: Well no, I mean, certainly we wouldn't want to reach
Speaker 12: across US citizens and we don't know that's absolutely right.
Speaker 12: But in relation to free speech in the UK, I'm
Speaker 12: very proud of our history.
Speaker 2: There free speech. You have been warned, Coalition, But I digress.
Speaker 2: As with any good Shakespeare in comedy, Look who was
Speaker 2: waiting backstage to steal the show conditional law, Yes, a
Speaker 2: lot of Zelenski himself, the former Ukrainian dancer and comedian
Speaker 2: who starred in a sitcom about a Ukrainian comedian who
Speaker 2: becomes the President of Ukraine and then well he became
Speaker 2: the President of Ukraine. Well he arrived at White House
Speaker 2: determined to steal the show. But first what should he wear?
Speaker 10: Why don't you wear a suit?
Speaker 1: Why don't you wear a suit.
Speaker 9: You're the highest level in this country's office, and you
Speaker 9: refuse to wear a suit.
Speaker 1: I just want to see if you do own a suit.
Speaker 2: And sadly, it was all downhill from there, but not
Speaker 2: before we got a few insights into what the Deal
Speaker 2: of the Century is really all about. Here's the lead actor.
Speaker 8: Well, if I didn't align myself with both of them,
Speaker 8: you never have a deal. He wants me to say
Speaker 8: really terrible things about Putin and then.
Speaker 1: Say, Hi, Vladimir, how are we doing on the deal.
Speaker 1: That doesn't work that way. I'm not aligned with Putin.
Speaker 1: I'm not aligned with anybody.
Speaker 8: I'm aligned with the United States of America and for
Speaker 8: the good of the world, I'm aligned with the world,
Speaker 8: and I want to get this thing over with. You
Speaker 8: see the hatred he's got for a Putin. That's very
Speaker 8: tough for me to make a deal with that kind
Speaker 8: of hate. You's got tremendous hatred, and I understand that,
Speaker 8: but I can tell you the other side is exactly
Speaker 8: in love with you, know.
Speaker 1: Hem there.
Speaker 2: The art of the understatement. And then we got this
Speaker 2: from mister Trump's understudy, JD.
Speaker 7: Vance, The Path to Peace and the path to prosperity
Speaker 7: is maybe engaging in diplomacy. We tried the pathway of
Speaker 7: Joe Biden, of thumping our chest and pretending that the
Speaker 7: President of the United States's words mattered more than the
Speaker 7: President of the United States's actions. What makes America a
Speaker 7: good country is America engaging in diplomacy.
Speaker 1: That's what President Trump is doing.
Speaker 2: And that's when it really started to go wrong. The
Speaker 2: d word diplomacy. For reasons that he may now regret,
Speaker 2: President Zelenski decided to go off script and somewhat undiplomatically,
Speaker 2: but probably correctly, pointed out that diplomacy needs to be
Speaker 2: backed up by security guarantees. Whatever the intention, it missed
Speaker 2: the mark.
Speaker 1: What kind of diplomacy gg us gambo? What do mean?
Speaker 1: I'm talking about.
Speaker 7: The kind of diplomacy that's going to end the destruction
Speaker 7: of your country.
Speaker 2: Part of the script may have been lost in translation.
Speaker 2: There are many on social media claiming that Zelenski muttered
Speaker 2: the Ukrainian word for bitch under his breath, which may
Speaker 2: or may not be true. But we did see this cameo.
Speaker 2: Reaction from Zelensky's ambassador as things rapidly descended into chaos.
Speaker 1: Said you, because people have all his fired what they.
Speaker 2: See from there on in, it only went downhill, with
Speaker 2: Zelenski determined to give a history lesson of almost certainly
Speaker 2: legitimate Ukrainian ingrievances. Jd Vance determined to get Zelensky to
Speaker 2: show some gratitude to the American people for the lazy
Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty billion dollars they have so far
Speaker 2: stumped up, and Trump eager not to be upstaged.
Speaker 8: Don't tell us why we're going to feel. We're trying
Speaker 8: to solve a problem. Don't tell us what we're going
Speaker 8: to feel.
Speaker 1: I'm not telling you because you're in no position to
Speaker 1: dictate that. You remember this, You're in.
Speaker 8: No position to dictate what we're going to feel.
Speaker 1: We're gonna feel very good, feel influenced. We are going
Speaker 1: to feel very good and very strong. It will feel influenced.
Speaker 1: You're right now, not in a very good position.
Speaker 8: You've allowed you to be in a premad position that
Speaker 8: he's apples.
Speaker 1: To be right about the very beginning of the war.
Speaker 1: Not in a good position. You don't have the cards
Speaker 1: right now with us. You start having right now.
Speaker 2: You see spread you're gambling.
Speaker 8: Lives, billions of people see you're gambling with World War three.
Speaker 2: But in all the talking over each other, finger pointing
Speaker 2: and amateur theatrics, JD. Vance may have accidentally let slip
Speaker 2: what was behind much, or at least most of the grievance.
Speaker 7: You went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October.
Speaker 7: Offer some war of appreciation for the United States of
Speaker 7: America and the president who's trying to save your country.
Speaker 2: Yes, whether he had any other choice or not, Zelensky
Speaker 2: backed the wrong horse by appearing to be supporting Kamala
Speaker 2: Harris during the presidential election campaign, a catastrophic miscalculation which
Speaker 2: had the Republicans crying foul at the time, But back
Speaker 2: to center stage in the Oval Office where the raised
Speaker 2: voices and shouting over each other may have been full
Speaker 2: of sound and fury, but ultimately did it signify very little.
Speaker 1: Your country is in big trouble. I know you're not winning.
Speaker 1: You're not winning this.
Speaker 8: You have a damn good chance of winning out Okay,
Speaker 8: because of the president.
Speaker 1: We're saying, Yowa country staying strong.
Speaker 2: From the very beginning of the war, we've been alone and.
Speaker 8: We are thankle I said, and he gave you this
Speaker 8: stupid president, three hundred and fifty billion dollars.
Speaker 1: You will. We gave your military and you met are brave.
Speaker 1: But they had used our military one in your vest.
Speaker 8: If you didn't have our military equipment, If you didn't
Speaker 8: have our military equipment, this war would have been over
Speaker 8: in two weeks.
Speaker 1: In two days, I.
Speaker 2: Heard it from Putin in three days.
Speaker 1: This is how vegulest.
Speaker 2: And in that climactic exchange we learned the truth. Zelenski
Speaker 2: appears dismissive of the money he has so far received,
Speaker 2: basically saying that the Americans voted for Biden, and Biden
Speaker 2: gave him the money, so what, so suck it up. Trump,
Speaker 2: on the other hand, correctly notes that Ukraine would have
Speaker 2: probably been wiped off the map by now were it
Speaker 2: not for that money.
Speaker 1: You have to be thankful. You don't have the cards.
Speaker 1: You're buried there, your people that died. Tell you you're
Speaker 1: running low on soldiers. Listen, you're running slow on soldiers.
Speaker 1: It would be a damn goodness. And then you tell
Speaker 1: us I don't want to cease fire. I don't want
Speaker 1: to cease fire. I want to go and I wanted this.
Speaker 8: Look, if you could get seats for her right now
Speaker 8: and tell you take it.
Speaker 1: So the bullets stopped flying and your meant to corny kills. Course,
Speaker 1: who wanted to stop the war?
Speaker 2: Trump eva showman clearly didn't object to the spat being
Speaker 2: played out in the public eye, maybe even orchestrated it
Speaker 2: and did a bit of comedy acting there himself. But
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, the facts remain.
Speaker 1: I gave you the javelers to take out all those tanks.
Speaker 1: Obama gave you sheets.
Speaker 8: In fact, the statement is Obama gave sheets and Trump
Speaker 8: gave javelins.
Speaker 1: You got to be more.
Speaker 8: Thankful, because let me tell you, you don't have the cards.
Speaker 8: With us, you have the cards, but without us, you
Speaker 8: don't have any cards.
Speaker 2: So what does it all mean? The players strutted and
Speaker 2: fretted their hour upon the stage, and the three of
Speaker 2: them are the three lighted fools leading the way to
Speaker 2: dusty death.
Speaker 1: All right, I think we've seen enough. What do you think?
Speaker 6: Huh?
Speaker 1: This is going to be great television?
Speaker 2: M hm, And indeed it is on television where the
Speaker 2: game will now play on.
Speaker 1: Do you think your relationship with Donald Trump?
Speaker 10: President Trump after today can be salvaged?
Speaker 1: It can be.
Speaker 13: Example, yes, of course, because it's relations more than to president,
Speaker 13: is the historical relations, strong relations between our people.
Speaker 2: And as always with the greatest shows, what did the
Speaker 2: critics think?
Speaker 14: All he had to do was walk in there and
Speaker 14: say thank you, I'm really grateful to be here. We
Speaker 14: want to be partners with the United States, We're grateful
Speaker 14: for your leadership. Where's the papers and what are we
Speaker 14: having for lunch? That's all he had to do.
Speaker 2: Well, joining us now on the Strategic Analysis Australia, the
Speaker 2: director Peter Jennings joins us. Now, great to see you. Peter.
Speaker 2: We'll ask you in a second about your thoughts on
Speaker 2: the Zelenski etc. You had a great piece in the
Speaker 2: odds there yesterday, but I really want to pick your
Speaker 2: brains about China and the warships. Dutton's now said we're
Speaker 2: going to get thirty five more fighters. What was the
Speaker 2: real meaning behind those Chinese warships off the coast last
Speaker 2: this week with live rounds of ammunition being fired, flights
Speaker 2: being diverted, and it appears that the Chinese didn't bother
Speaker 2: to tell anyone in the Albanese government beforehand what they
Speaker 2: were up to.
Speaker 15: So it was an act of Chinese intimidation ron pretty clearly.
Speaker 15: I thought it was remarkable that the Prime Minister and
Speaker 15: his senior cabinet leaders are then justifying that by saying, well,
Speaker 15: it was legal. Yeah, maybe legal, but certainly not the
Speaker 15: behavior of a friend. You know, in a week or two,
Speaker 15: we're going to have a japan Nese warship visit called
Speaker 15: the mcgami. It's going to pull into port. There will
Speaker 15: be lots of Australians allowed to visit the ship. In
Speaker 15: all probability, the Australian Navy will do live fire training
Speaker 15: exercises with the Japanese naval.
Speaker 10: Vessel when it's here.
Speaker 15: And this is how friends work together, the very opposite
Speaker 15: of what we saw with China, which was we're not
Speaker 15: going to engage with you, we won't tell you what
Speaker 15: we're doing, as they did not. We're just going to
Speaker 15: fire weapons and force your aircraft to divert and by
Speaker 15: the way, we're going to circumnavigate the country, and you
Speaker 15: Australia are going to do nothing other than apologize for
Speaker 15: our activities. That was the essence of the Chinese message,
Speaker 15: and I think it's very disappointing that our government didn't
Speaker 15: deal with that with a stronger response.
Speaker 5: Peter, Why are the Chinese wanting to intimidate us?
Speaker 4: What is the end goal here?
Speaker 10: I think they're doing it reta because firstly they.
Speaker 15: And because they want to make a point that they
Speaker 15: don't really care about a stabilized relationship. They don't care
Speaker 15: if our government is happy or unhappy. They simply want
Speaker 15: to assert their position as a great power in the region.
Speaker 15: They want to be the dominant power in the region,
Speaker 15: and that means for all other countries they want. They
Speaker 15: want us to accept our subordinate status.
Speaker 10: And thank them for it.
Speaker 15: This is the new muscular face of Chinese diplomacy under
Speaker 15: Shi Jinping, and the sort of contempt that's inherit in
Speaker 15: that treating Australia as the third order country, I think
Speaker 15: is very deliberately part of the Chinese message, Peter.
Speaker 5: Do they have any ambitions in the next twenty fifty
Speaker 5: years to land in Australia?
Speaker 4: Is that part of because.
Speaker 5: We know with China they think long term, they think
Speaker 5: in centuries. Is that something that's even on the cards.
Speaker 15: Look, I think their attitude reader would be why attack
Speaker 15: it when you can buy it?
Speaker 10: In a moment they seem.
Speaker 15: To have got a pretty effective relationship of the type
Speaker 15: they want with our government. You know, looking ahead twenty years,
Speaker 15: fifty years, Australia has a lot of things that China needs.
Speaker 15: Long term commodities, food space, all of these things are
Speaker 15: highly valuable to China. It's not as though we're.
Speaker 10: The only country in their interests.
Speaker 15: They're everywhere from the Caribbean down to the Antarctic looking
Speaker 15: to become a dominant power. And I guess what we
Speaker 15: need to do is just make sure that China never
Speaker 15: sees us as an easy mark. You know, we have
Speaker 15: to strengthen our defense capability to the point that China
Speaker 15: concludes not today.
Speaker 10: They're simply not going to tackle with us.
Speaker 15: And I think that's what we fail, because we won't
Speaker 15: spend the money that we need to spend on defense.
Speaker 15: And we we're going to have to change that very
Speaker 15: quickly if we're going to be able to look after
Speaker 15: our interests in future.
Speaker 3: James, we spoke earlier on the program about just what
Speaker 3: a fiasco the past week was. They were surveilling the
Speaker 3: ships and yet we didn't find out until a Virgin
Speaker 3: Airline pilot notified the government. Then Anthony Albinezi lied about
Speaker 3: what had happened. Two questions, what do the Chinese make
Speaker 3: of the response? And also, the United States are trying
Speaker 3: to do big orchest deals with us, what do they
Speaker 3: make of the mishandling of this? Really a small episode
Speaker 3: yet handled so badly.
Speaker 15: So in the case of China, you know, I think
Speaker 15: their position is they're more than happy to look like
Speaker 15: they're dominating us, and therefore they want the Australian response
Speaker 15: to be subservient and meek.
Speaker 10: Even the little political level.
Speaker 15: Commentary that happened was then attacked by the Chinese ambassador
Speaker 15: and by the Chinese media saying, well, that was an
Speaker 15: inappropriate way to describe what China was doing. They're just
Speaker 15: looking for silence, pure and simple, to copy some advertising copy,
Speaker 15: shut up and take the money. That's really the message
Speaker 15: that they're passing through to us. In the case of
Speaker 15: the Americans, you know, I've not seen any public comment.
Speaker 15: I guess their system is rather focused on other things
Speaker 15: at the moment.
Speaker 10: But I can tell you this.
Speaker 15: It will have been noticed in the Pentagon, it will
Speaker 15: have been noticed inside the Beltway in Congress, and they'll
Speaker 15: be thinking, gee, that was a rather weak response. And
Speaker 15: my concern is, you know, we're supposedly engaging in a
Speaker 15: deal with the Americans whereby they are going to hand
Speaker 15: us three Virginia class nuclear submarines. They're going to give
Speaker 15: us access to one of their most important military secrets,
Speaker 15: that's nuclear propulsion. And that was all on the basis
Speaker 15: that we were going to stand up and become a
Speaker 15: more effective security partner. And then when they see this
Speaker 15: kind of subservient response to China, I just wonder if
Speaker 15: the American reaction is to think that's weak and that's
Speaker 15: not what we would like to see from the Australians.
Speaker 2: Well, perhaps Peter, the next thing they'll do is fly
Speaker 2: a balloon over us from one side of Australian to
Speaker 2: the other, in which case we might need Peter Dutton's
Speaker 2: new thirty five jets to shoot it down out of
Speaker 2: the skies. But tell us about these new fighter jets
Speaker 2: billions of dollars of course, are they going to happen,
Speaker 2: what's the strategic importance of them and how critical is
Speaker 2: this to the coalition's view for Australian defense.
Speaker 15: I think this is an important first step for the
Speaker 15: coalition to decide that it needs to take defense more
Speaker 15: seriously and in a week where we have China doing
Speaker 15: its aggressive circumnavigation of the country. Isn't it a great
Speaker 15: idea that we should have more air power to defend
Speaker 15: Australia's interests, including, as Andrew Hasty said on sky earlier today,
Speaker 15: with anti maritime shipping capability.
Speaker 10: So this is a good thing. It's actually something.
Speaker 15: That I and my colleagues at Strategic Analysis Australia have
Speaker 15: been advocating for, and in particular, we would like to
Speaker 15: see the government give consideration to a variant of the
Speaker 15: F thirty five, which is the one that's capable of
Speaker 15: landing on ships, that short take off and landing variant,
Speaker 15: because you can put that to sea and you can
Speaker 15: extend Australia's reach by doing that. Defense of course would
Speaker 15: say no, but I think this is the time for
Speaker 15: lateral thinking and so I absolutely applaud the government for
Speaker 15: bringing this decision back. It was one that labor canceled
Speaker 15: in order to save money for the submarines that we
Speaker 15: won't see until the late twenty thirties. But we need
Speaker 15: more strike capability sooner, and the F thirty five is
Speaker 15: an excellent aircraft coming off production lines right now, so
Speaker 15: we should be able to see it well within the
Speaker 15: decks to strengthen defense, and I think that's.
Speaker 2: A good thing now, Peter, you wrote in Australia in
Speaker 2: your ten points on the Zelenski spats with Donald Trump
Speaker 2: in the White House, I was intrigued by your idea
Speaker 2: that JD. Vance messed up. I think that's arguable. I
Speaker 2: don't know if that's correct or not, but you think
Speaker 2: that he's a weak link in the Trump administration, explain
Speaker 2: your thinking.
Speaker 10: Not necessarily a weak link.
Speaker 15: I think, in fact, what he is going to be is,
Speaker 15: you know, he's an articulate, smart, somewhat impatient young man,
Speaker 15: and I think that he's not really understanding that if
Speaker 15: you're going to serve in Donald Trump's cabinet more than
Speaker 15: anything else, what you need is deference to the president's agenda.
Speaker 15: And Evance has an interest in wanting to be that
Speaker 15: the next president. At some stage in this term, probably
Speaker 15: after the midterms, he's going to have to think about
Speaker 15: how does he put some distance between himself and Donald
Speaker 15: Trump in order to position for a tilta the presidency
Speaker 15: next time round. So given all of those things, I
Speaker 15: don't think Vance is going to find it easy or
Speaker 15: comfortable to say in the vice president's job for terribly long,
Speaker 15: certainly not in the latter half of this term. And
Speaker 15: I think he's going to want to because of his
Speaker 15: own temperament. Apart from anything else, Carve had a position
Speaker 15: for himself as a next candidate rather than being the
Speaker 15: vice to Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: Read highly unlikely.
Speaker 5: All those traits that you've pointed out are absolutely accurate.
Speaker 5: But that precisely what Trump loves about Vance and why
Speaker 5: he's been such a valuable addition to the administration.
Speaker 4: And he doesn't need to.
Speaker 5: Insistance himself from Trump because he's not going to have
Speaker 5: to go up against Trump.
Speaker 4: He's done his two terms.
Speaker 5: But I'm interested in what you see is going to
Speaker 5: happen next with Ukraine. If America says the tap is
Speaker 5: turned off, We're not funding this. If You're doesn't pick
Speaker 5: up the slack and support Ukraine, what is going to happen?
Speaker 5: I mean, is there anything that can happen other than
Speaker 5: a peace steal that is going to save the country
Speaker 5: because we don't want to see more death and destruction
Speaker 5: and more people needlessly dying.
Speaker 15: Well, regrettably, that is going to continue to happen, and
Speaker 15: most of it now is happening by the Russians.
Speaker 10: I find it quite remarkable that.
Speaker 15: We can be talking about a peace steel when the
Speaker 15: Russians are still raining missiles down on Ukrainian City. But yes,
Speaker 15: I agree, it's not sustainable short term or long term.
Speaker 10: I think we'll see two things happen.
Speaker 15: I think we will see Europe step up to provide
Speaker 15: more military support for Ukraine, and that's a good outcome
Speaker 15: reader it's something that they should do. It's very directly
Speaker 15: about security on their doorstep, and they need to understand
Speaker 15: that they can no longer right on the security coattails
Speaker 15: of the United States. But the second thing I think
Speaker 15: we'll see happen is that Zelensky will come back to
Speaker 15: the deal over rare earth resources that Donald Trump was
Speaker 15: wanting to see signed after that lunch after the Oval
Speaker 15: Office debacle, which didn't get signed. It may not have
Speaker 15: been explained terribly well, but I think it is a
Speaker 15: good deal for Zelensky because what it does is it
Speaker 15: buys an American commercial interest and an American economic presence
Speaker 15: in Ukraine. And I think President Trump is absolutely right
Speaker 15: to say that that's the core of a security guarant Absolutely,
Speaker 15: Zelensky may want to argue for more of it, but
Speaker 15: I think it's the best deal on the table right now.
Speaker 15: And to me that would suggest that sooner or later,
Speaker 15: probably sooner, Zelensky will come back and we'll see an agreement.
Speaker 2: Sign fantastic and Part two of the Oval Office will
Speaker 2: be great television.
Speaker 10: I'm sure it.
Speaker 2: Might not be as good as Part one. That's right,
Speaker 2: Thanks so much, Peter. Always great to have you here
Speaker 2: on Outsiders. That Peter Jennings, of course, is always great
Speaker 2: to have him on here from the Strategic Analysis Australia.
Speaker 2: After the break, James has got his thoughts. Well, I'll
Speaker 2: let him tell you after the break.
Speaker 6: Welcome back to Outsiders.
Speaker 3: Well, Independent Senator Jared Rennick has suggested that the Israeli
Speaker 3: Secret Service may have infiltrated News Corp in order to
Speaker 3: stir up division in Australia.
Speaker 6: That's right.
Speaker 3: The Australian newspaper, along with Sky News hosts like myself,
Speaker 3: have apparently been so obsessed with covering anti Semitism in
Speaker 3: this country. The only explanation is we've been put up
Speaker 3: to it by Mossad, the Israeli Secret Service. He tweeted
Speaker 3: this week, and I quote it begs the question whether
Speaker 3: Mossad has infiltrated news Corp and it's trying to stir
Speaker 3: up the vision here in Australia. Now, if that suggestion
Speaker 3: wasn't so insulting both to Jews and to news.
Speaker 6: Corps, it'd be hilarious.
Speaker 3: The senator's comments begs the question as to whether the
Speaker 3: Hamas has infiltrated his office and is trying to stir
Speaker 3: up anti Semitism here in Australia.
Speaker 6: See how this game works.
Speaker 3: Of course, I don't really believe the Senator has been
Speaker 3: infiltrated by anyone, but he is hoping he's infiltrated by
Speaker 3: some common sense sometime soon. In the same tweet that
Speaker 3: Senator Renick accused news Corps of acting in cahoots with Mossad,
Speaker 3: he agreed that the media will quote mind blowingly stupid.
Speaker 6: So if I'm understanding the.
Speaker 3: Senator from Queensland, the media is simultaneously mind blowingly stupid
Speaker 3: and part of a sophisticated foreign infiltration plot.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 3: Senator Renick went on in his tweet to suggest a
Speaker 3: second time that Israel was manipulating news corps reporting on
Speaker 3: anti Semitism in this country. He said quote, we don't
Speaker 3: need assimilation problems as well, regardless of foreign interference there
Speaker 3: it is. It has to be said the mainstream media
Speaker 3: need to have their behaviors scrutinized. They have been dog
Speaker 3: whistling and fear mongering for years.
Speaker 6: Hmm.
Speaker 3: So it was news Corp, acting at the behest of Mossad,
Speaker 3: who whipped up the pro Palestinian crowd shouting where are
Speaker 3: the Jews on the steps of the Opera House. And
Speaker 3: it was news Corp, following instructions from the Israeli Secret Service,
Speaker 3: of course, who told a Sydney Sheik Ibrahim the Don
Speaker 3: to shout that he was elated by the October seven
Speaker 3: massacre of twelve hundred Jews.
Speaker 6: And if Senator Rennick is to be believed, it was
Speaker 6: news Corp.
Speaker 3: Acting as a proxy for the Jews, who told a
Speaker 3: Western Sydney Imam to quote Mohammad saying that Jews were
Speaker 3: pigs and monkeys. It was also news Corp, at the
Speaker 3: directive of the Israeli government naturally, who directed people in
Speaker 3: Australia to smear hostage posters with excrement docks Jewish business people,
Speaker 3: vandalized Jewish businesses and set fire to Jewish synagogues. Really,
Speaker 3: there is another possibility, Maybe, just maybe news Corp Corp
Speaker 3: journalists aren't stooges for Mossad. Maybe journalists are simply reporting
Speaker 3: what they are seeing take place in our country, rather
Speaker 3: than ignoring it or attempting to downplay it, as the
Speaker 3: government seems intent on doing. Perhaps news Corp journalists so
Speaker 3: honestly calling out anti Semitism rather than accusing Israel of
Speaker 3: creating anti Semitism in order to win sympathy for themselves,
Speaker 3: the very suggestion of which, in my view, would constitute
Speaker 3: peak antisemitism.
Speaker 6: What a disgrace.
Speaker 3: Let me share with you a quick selection of replies
Speaker 3: to Senator Rennick's tweet quote Jew's own Australia and you
Speaker 3: know it. They kill American presidents, bring down towers to
Speaker 3: start wars, and killed the son of God. And then
Speaker 3: there was this reply to Senator Rennick's tweet, Mike Burgess
Speaker 3: the boss of ASIO working for his Zionist mates. Someone
Speaker 3: else demanded quote, there needs to be a full investigation
Speaker 3: into Israel's influence in our media and politics. This nextly
Speaker 3: to Senator Renick was typical quote they the Jews are
Speaker 3: definitely trying to incite hatred against Muslims.
Speaker 6: Only one religion would do that.
Speaker 3: We all know who they are, and I'll throw in
Speaker 3: one more just for fun. Mossad have infiltrated and subverted
Speaker 3: our government, institutions and companies. They serve Israel who have
Speaker 3: committed genocide. They are the real threat and enemy of
Speaker 3: the state. On and on it goes. That's just a
Speaker 3: few of well over one hundred similar applies from people
Speaker 3: agreeing with the Senator who has the hide to accuse News.
Speaker 6: Corp Of stirring up division.
Speaker 3: For the record, I've never been told what to say
Speaker 3: about anti Semitism in this country by my employer, News Corp.
Speaker 6: Or by Mossad agents. I realize it.
Speaker 3: Can get a bit boring all this talk about anti Semitism,
Speaker 3: and I get that some people are sick of hearing
Speaker 3: about it because, after all, anti Semitism, well, it only
Speaker 3: affects the Jews, so who cares.
Speaker 10: Well.
Speaker 3: When the anti Semitic attacks stop occurring, then we can
Speaker 3: stop talking about the anti Semitic attacks. But until Australia
Speaker 3: returns to the tolerant, decent, respectful country, we remember, my colleagues,
Speaker 3: and I will keep calling out anti Semitism, not because
Speaker 3: we've been manipulated by Mossad. We think Senator Renick has
Speaker 3: been watching far too many movies. We'll keep calling out
Speaker 3: anti Semitism because it's abhorrent and dangerous, just as suggesting
Speaker 3: anti Semitism is being cooked up by the Jews is
Speaker 3: also abhorrent and dangerous. And I must say far beneath
Speaker 3: Senator Jared Rennick.
Speaker 2: Great stuff, James, Well, this story caught my eye during
Speaker 2: the week. Narrabriye up in northern New South Wales, beautiful
Speaker 2: part of the world, has a small hospital in a
Speaker 2: town near Narrabriye Is. We were and got a state
Speaker 2: of the art hospital there, fairly new, nice, beautiful equipment
Speaker 2: and all the rest. But but but here's the thing.
Speaker 2: The bureaucrats. You remember all those comedies like a Yes Minister,
Speaker 2: those sorts of things utopia, those comedies about the health
Speaker 2: bureaucrats and so on. Well, it seems own New South
Speaker 2: Wales health bureaucrats have taken a leaf out of Yes Minister.
Speaker 2: They've come up with the brilliant idea. We were hospital
Speaker 2: has an emergency department, but it shuts at five thirty pm.
Speaker 2: Oh good, Yes, the doors are shut and there's no doctors.
Speaker 2: So if you're going to have an emergency, get a
Speaker 2: snake bite for instance, or trip over you know one
Speaker 2: of those beautiful vineyards. I've got vineyards up there, don't.
Speaker 10: Go to hospital.
Speaker 2: Don't let the accident happen after five thirty because there's
Speaker 2: no one at the hospital, no doctors, it's all shut down,
Speaker 2: it's empty. Joining me now is the Narrabrie Mayor, Darryl Tiemans. Darryl,
Speaker 2: what a genius timetes, what a genius idea you've got?
Speaker 2: Health bureaucrats you say, here's the solution to our problems.
Speaker 2: We shut the emergency department at five thirty because it's
Speaker 2: not like anyone's going to have an emergency after five
Speaker 2: thirty pm, is Daryl.
Speaker 1: It's a look.
Speaker 16: We did actually have some of the bureaucrats saying that
Speaker 16: the Eastern brown snakes apparently they actually don't bite after
Speaker 16: five point thirty at night. And I can I can
Speaker 16: tell you the farmers, the cotton farmers and the other
Speaker 16: farmers around the area that work twenty four hours a day,
Speaker 16: they can assure you that that's when the snakes are
Speaker 16: out overnight. So it's look, it's it's just ridiculous. It
Speaker 16: is like an episode of Yes Minister. But the problem
Speaker 16: is it's it's not a comedy because the people out
Speaker 16: there are absolutely furious about it. They're absolutely furious. The
Speaker 16: local IgA supermarket opens longer hours, much longer hours than
Speaker 16: the local hospital. There's eighteen beds in that hospital and
Speaker 16: not a single patient Pats Players of Australia, not a
Speaker 16: single patient in that hospital of an evening. And you
Speaker 16: know it's a shame. I did a tour of that
Speaker 16: hospital not that long ago and it is state of
Speaker 16: the art. It is an awesome hospital. And what a
Speaker 16: waste of taxpayers resources. It is shocking. It is shocking
Speaker 16: where I pay a lot of tax, and I can
Speaker 16: tell you the farmers and the business people and the
Speaker 16: enterprises up here. We're the second largest economy in northwest
Speaker 16: East South Wales and we pay bucket loads of tax.
Speaker 16: They take a lot from us, the federal and state governments,
Speaker 16: and we get very little back from it. And I
Speaker 16: can tell you we deserve a hospital. We deserve this
Speaker 16: hospital open tonight. But I doubt it's going to be
Speaker 16: open tonight because there's another inquiry happening and there's an inquiry,
Speaker 16: so it is it is kind of kicking the can
Speaker 16: down the road. And look, we certainly we welcome any
Speaker 16: investigation into these bureaucrats. But meanwhile, the kids, the families,
Speaker 16: the elderly, the farmers, the others around our area are
Speaker 16: in danger. Our lives are in danger simply because we
Speaker 16: do not have this hospital open this evening five point
Speaker 16: thirty tonight.
Speaker 1: It's closed.
Speaker 5: It's presumably Darryl what he actually gets admitted to this
Speaker 5: hospital because obviously, if you've got to be admitted for
Speaker 5: a couple of days, you can't stay overnight at an
Speaker 5: empty hospital with nobody to take care of you, just
Speaker 5: wandering around by yourself. So what happens to the locals
Speaker 5: if they go to this hospital during before five point
Speaker 5: thirty and they have an issue that needs to be
Speaker 5: addressed and they just get transferred somewhere else?
Speaker 4: So what happens?
Speaker 10: Great question?
Speaker 16: So what actually happens is that there are a couple
Speaker 16: of nurses there and they're very talented, really good, committed nurses.
Speaker 10: And we love them for it.
Speaker 16: There's not a single doctor available physical doctor in that hospital,
Speaker 16: even though there's four doctors in.
Speaker 6: The town that live in the town.
Speaker 16: So what they do is you end up with these
Speaker 16: telehealth situations where.
Speaker 10: You've got a doctor. The doctor could be in.
Speaker 16: Western Australia, it could be you know, all over the place.
Speaker 16: And we've had situations where serious mistakes have been made
Speaker 16: simply because of this telehealth situation. You know, one of
Speaker 16: our committee members he was missing his CAN that was
Speaker 16: misdiagnosed by one of these telehealth practitioners.
Speaker 10: And look, we're.
Speaker 16: Really angry about it. I know we're making light of
Speaker 16: it at the moment, but the seering anger not just
Speaker 16: in we War, but all the five or six towns
Speaker 16: to the western we Wall that rely on this hospital.
Speaker 16: The seering anger is palpable. Every time we call for
Speaker 16: a rally on the lawns of the hospital, people turn
Speaker 16: up in their hundreds and we are not going to
Speaker 16: back down.
Speaker 10: On this one.
Speaker 16: We took the fight to Sydney this week and even
Speaker 16: Sydney siders were quite shocked when we told them that
Speaker 16: this is the only hospital in Australia where the emergency
Speaker 16: department was at five point thirty every night and there's
Speaker 16: not a single patient of any note any evening. There's
Speaker 16: only security guards wandering the grounds of the hospital.
Speaker 2: Looking for the patients.
Speaker 3: James Daryl, I would have thought, if you have to
Speaker 3: schedule your emergency between the hours of nine and five thirty,
Speaker 3: by definition, it's no longer and emergency.
Speaker 6: What explanation have you been given?
Speaker 3: Have the government said it's a staffing issue?
Speaker 6: Is it a finance issue?
Speaker 3: What's their explanation when you ask why the situation?
Speaker 10: And this is why?
Speaker 2: It is?
Speaker 16: Like yes, Prime in the Star, you know, Sir Humphrey
Speaker 16: would be very proud of some of this stuff. We've
Speaker 16: had everything from there's not enough staff in the area,
Speaker 16: there's no doctors available, this for in town. There's plenty
Speaker 16: of nurses in town, half of them work at Narraborough Hospital.
Speaker 6: The next latest.
Speaker 16: Excuse that they've been coming up with is the fact
Speaker 16: that if they have the hospital away, but it makes
Speaker 16: it unsafe for the nurse practitioners. It's just bonkers. There
Speaker 16: is an allocated budget to that hospital. It's five million
Speaker 16: a year. You think about five million, I mean that's
Speaker 16: chump change for some of these politicians. And that hospital
Speaker 16: relied on by thousands and thousands of people, remains close.
Speaker 16: So it's look, it's a disgrace and a hundred New
Speaker 16: England Health and the bureaukrats really should hang their heads
Speaker 16: in shame.
Speaker 2: Well, in my opinion, Daryl, we could fire a few
Speaker 2: of those bureaucrats anyway. The coalition promise they might if
Speaker 2: they win the federal election. Darryl Teamans, thanks so much
Speaker 2: for chatting to us, and good luck you saving Weewire Hospital.
Speaker 2: I know people in the area getting behind the petition
Speaker 2: and you had to come down to Sydney cap in
Speaker 2: hand to speak to the men's government. Yet you're one
Speaker 2: of the wealthiest tax you know that you're part of
Speaker 2: the New South Wales pays more tax, pays higher taxes,
Speaker 2: you know, contributes more because it's such a productive area.
Speaker 2: It's absolute disgrace. Darryl Teamans, sorry quickly, yep.
Speaker 16: I was just going to say that we are the
Speaker 16: second most productive agricultural local government area in all of
Speaker 16: the country. We pay bucket loads of tax and I'm
Speaker 16: not going to stand by, as you said, I'm not
Speaker 16: going to stand by and continue without begging bowl going
Speaker 16: to Macquarie Street trying to beg.
Speaker 10: Them for what is an essential service.
Speaker 16: The New South Wales government was elected on a platform
Speaker 16: of essential services and we need that essential service restored.
Speaker 16: And I really thank you guys for getting on board
Speaker 16: with these thinking our pleasure.
Speaker 2: Daryl Tiemans, that's the mayor there of narraw Brie. Coming
Speaker 2: up after the break. Some more bureaucrap madness on Canberra
Speaker 2: clown Show in a teck, Roll up, roll up, step
Speaker 2: right this way. It's the wackier show on Earth. It's
Speaker 2: the Canberrack clown Show where ol Bozo the Clown decided
Speaker 2: this week to try and recruit far North Queensland comedian
Speaker 2: Bob Catter to join the traveling Climate Change Circus. You
Speaker 2: can decide for yourself how convincing that performance.
Speaker 17: Was someone who no one would accuse of being touchy
Speaker 17: fairly or being left wing. Bob Catter understands that renewable
Speaker 17: energy is good for jobs. And unlike the LMP who
Speaker 17: seemed to be opposed to these siks, what do you think.
Speaker 1: No, the eletric I represent you know we diametrically opposed
Speaker 1: to climate change.
Speaker 10: There be no equivocation here.
Speaker 2: Love it that is still under the Burly Griffin big top.
Speaker 2: There were fireworks and amateur dramatics galore. As Coalition Senator
Speaker 2: James McGrath accused the Greens of being anti Semitic.
Speaker 9: Inappropriate and further, you have referred to me as anti Semitic.
Speaker 2: In my words than you.
Speaker 1: I will say what I need to say. You say it.
Speaker 2: I am the only Greens.
Speaker 18: Senator in this room and you have referred to me
Speaker 18: and my part is anti symtic.
Speaker 19: I'm not withdrawing that the Green's Political Party is a racist,
Speaker 19: anti Semitic party.
Speaker 1: I am not withdrawing that, Senator McGrath.
Speaker 2: I am asking you to withdraw that.
Speaker 1: I am not withdrawing.
Speaker 2: Brilliant James McGrath, speaking of fireworks. This week also saw
Speaker 2: the world famous Beijing Floating Circus performing their explosive nautical
Speaker 2: stunts off our shores this week, but of course they
Speaker 2: forgot to tell the punters, so ticket sales were fairly poor,
Speaker 2: although one terrified Virgin Pilot's got a front row seat.
Speaker 2: Seems the Chinese, however, didn't bother to give any advance
Speaker 2: notice of the dramatic display display whatsoever, even though for
Speaker 2: reasons best known to himself, our bows O the clown
Speaker 2: tried to claim that they had.
Speaker 17: Doesn't concern you that it was a Virgin pilot that
Speaker 17: alerted Australia about the Chinese Li Fi exercise rather than Defense.
Speaker 17: The Austraie Defense was certainly aware and I've spoken with
Speaker 17: the Chief of the Defense Force about what has occurred.
Speaker 17: Australia has had a frigate both monitoring I see and
Speaker 17: by air of the presence in the region of these
Speaker 17: Chinese Chinese vessels.
Speaker 2: But is that strictly true? Senator James Patterson was extremely unimpressed.
Speaker 20: What's the value of notification if it's not received, if
Speaker 20: it's not heard. The Government's been very clear that the
Speaker 20: notification was not timely, that it should have been earlier.
Speaker 20: But you're now telling me that notification was not received
Speaker 20: at least by Defense by Australia until after it commenced.
Speaker 20: That's not any notification at all, is it no?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 20: Well, that's contrary to the evidence that the Prime Minister
Speaker 20: and other senior ministers have given publicly.
Speaker 2: Brilliant elsewhere. One of the Canberra Clown Show's funniest clowns,
Speaker 2: Murray what's the point of a me even being in Parliament,
Speaker 2: decided to launch a bizarre attack on Peter Dutton.
Speaker 18: Senator Wae, who spoke before the Opposition leader today.
Speaker 16: Now, Peter Dutton and his colleagues had a fair bit
Speaker 16: to say about the Prime Minister buying one house last year.
Speaker 2: But is that strictly true. Here's Peter Dutton being pushed
Speaker 2: by reporters to criticize Albozo for his four point three
Speaker 2: million dollar purchase on the cliff tops of albo Cabana, Sorry,
Speaker 2: Copa Cabana.
Speaker 10: Well, it's a matter for the Prime Minister.
Speaker 19: But I wish he and Jodie well, and they're obviously
Speaker 19: planning for the next stage of life post politics, and
Speaker 19: I wish them well in that the Prime Minister can
Speaker 19: answer questions in relation to it otherwise, but the homeowners
Speaker 19: in Australia that I'm worried about it at the moment
Speaker 19: of people who can't afford their mortgages.
Speaker 2: Indeed, and while we're on the topic of Alboza's home
Speaker 2: ownership commitments, guess what. Albosa's precious Housing Australia Future Fund
Speaker 2: has built not one single house in two years. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: other clowns and the Burly Griffin Big Top have been
Speaker 2: raking it in, with one joker getting paid apparently eight
Speaker 2: seven hundred dollars of your money to perform, if that's
Speaker 2: the right word, at a parliamentary Indigenous event, and that's
Speaker 2: on top of his ABC salary that you also pay
Speaker 2: for what fun? Senator Jane Hume tried to hold the
Speaker 2: Canbra Fatcats.
Speaker 18: To accounts in response to a question, I notice one
Speaker 18: hundred and seventy five. I note that you engaged a
Speaker 18: speaker for the Parliamentary Service Indigenous Employee Networks interagency event.
Speaker 18: Your response says that you engaged a single member of
Speaker 18: the ABC to perform that duty at a cost of
Speaker 18: eight seven hundred dollars.
Speaker 21: Is that correct? Guess at of that throne?
Speaker 18: Right?
Speaker 21: How was that engagement entered into.
Speaker 4: Senator, I'll have to take that on notice. Unfortunately, I'll
Speaker 4: need to double check how that occurred.
Speaker 18: Okay, it was it was Dan Borschy out, somebody I
Speaker 18: admire greatly.
Speaker 21: But seven hundred dollars seems like an awfully large amount
Speaker 21: of money for a.
Speaker 18: Parliamentary Service Indigenous Employee Network it's interagency event.
Speaker 21: What did he do?
Speaker 1: Senator?
Speaker 21: Will take that on notice. My understanding was that it
Speaker 21: was an event that he was speaking at. But I
Speaker 21: will will take that on notice for you. Just one event.
Speaker 13: I think it was one event.
Speaker 21: But again i'll take it on nice for you. It's
Speaker 21: a nice side hustle.
Speaker 2: Indeed, sadly I wasn't invited to the event in questions,
Speaker 2: so I can't report whether it was worth the eighty
Speaker 2: seven hundred dollars that Dan Bouchier was paid. But Dan,
Speaker 2: who was the ABC's chief voice proponent, is an ambassador
Speaker 2: of the Australian Indigenous Education Foundation, an ambassador to the
Speaker 2: National Association of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Irelander Health Workers
Speaker 2: and protect Practitioners, which goes under the nifty acronym of
Speaker 2: nasi WHIP and is a proponent of gender and cultural diversity.
Speaker 2: On top of which, this worthy individual refuses to be
Speaker 2: part of any panel discussion where women are not included. Ah,
Speaker 2: so I think we can guess how riveting the Parliamentary
Speaker 2: Service Indigenous Employee Interagency event must have been. Can we
Speaker 2: ask for our eight seven hundred dollars back? Of course
Speaker 2: not cynic might be tempted to adopt dire Straits number
Speaker 2: one song and sing money for nothing at the ABC, Well,
Speaker 2: lefty Lunacy, We've got plenty of it for you here
Speaker 2: right here on Outsiders. Rita Jake Tapper, the CNN reporter.
Speaker 2: What's he been up to.
Speaker 5: Well, he's been trying to rewrite history, memory hold his
Speaker 5: own complicity in covering up Joe Biden's obvious cognitive decline.
Speaker 5: He's actually written a book on what he calls the
Speaker 5: great cover up about Joe Biden's health. But he was
Speaker 5: not just someone who refused to acknowledge the obvious. Something
Speaker 5: we've talked about on this program for more than four years,
Speaker 5: even before the twenty twenty election, that cognitive decline was obvious.
Speaker 5: Jake Tappa was doing everything he could to push back
Speaker 5: against the notion that there's something wrong with Joe Biden.
Speaker 4: Just have a look at this.
Speaker 11: I think what we see on stage with Joe Biden
Speaker 11: Jake is very clearly a cognitive decline.
Speaker 16: That's what I'm referring to.
Speaker 4: It makes me uncomfortable.
Speaker 8: You are.
Speaker 10: I think it's so amazing.
Speaker 22: It's so amazing to me that try and figure out an.
Speaker 6: Answer a cognitive decline.
Speaker 10: You're trying to tell me that what I was suggesting was.
Speaker 22: I think that you were marking his study. Yeah, I
Speaker 22: think you were marking his stuttery. And I think you
Speaker 22: have absolutely no standing to diagnose somebody's cognitive decline. I
Speaker 22: would think that somebody in the Plump family would be
Speaker 22: more sensitive to people who do do not have medical
Speaker 22: work diagnosing politicians from Afar.
Speaker 4: Incredible sumthing. That wasn't a one off there.
Speaker 5: There are several other instances of him pushing back, even
Speaker 5: suggesting footage of Biden looking obviously dazed confused.
Speaker 4: Now these gibberish.
Speaker 5: Sort of outbursts that he would have, Oh no, no,
Speaker 5: that's all some sort of right wing conspiracy.
Speaker 4: And now he's.
Speaker 3: Writings it's more like a confession, isn't it of his
Speaker 3: own original since it's just a pity of this book
Speaker 3: didn't come out two years ago, would have been far
Speaker 3: more help.
Speaker 5: It's almost like when OJ Simpson wrote a book about
Speaker 5: you know he knew who the real killer was. It's
Speaker 5: almost got those sort of lies. It should be more
Speaker 5: of a confession.
Speaker 2: Now I want to show you I mentioned it earlier
Speaker 2: in the show, but have a look at Suddy K.
Speaker 2: Khan here in London this week. This has been what's
Speaker 2: been happening in London.
Speaker 4: We feel loved and wanted in London.
Speaker 2: Now having lived in London for ten years, I fondly
Speaker 2: remember the lighting of the Christmas lights on Regent Street
Speaker 2: where all the lights were it up to celebrate Christmas.
Speaker 2: That is the lighting of Regent Streets Rama Dame lights.
Speaker 2: You may think this is a good thing, or you
Speaker 2: might be like Georgia Maloney, the Prime Minister of Italy,
Speaker 2: and not be sure it's such a good thing. Have
Speaker 2: listened to her?
Speaker 4: Your ben problematicatiilit ke molto distant.
Speaker 2: Rita is someone whose parents fled Iran for another life elsewhere.
Speaker 2: What do you think? Are you on Sunday ex side
Speaker 2: of the fence or Georgia?
Speaker 4: What do you think?
Speaker 5: And we haven't talked about senator payment for two payments
Speaker 5: out first this week learning that she was telling the
Speaker 5: Iranian admirers of the Iranian regime that you know they're
Speaker 5: so pro women, you know they allow women to work
Speaker 5: and contribute and be part of the.
Speaker 4: Conversation to your mum and it's just such an.
Speaker 5: Appalling And then she pled ignorance that I don't really
Speaker 5: know what's happening. Your family fled Afghanistan. How do you
Speaker 5: not know what's happening in Iran? Even someone with a
Speaker 5: passing interest in politics, let alone women's rights, and she
Speaker 5: pretends to be a crusader for women's rights. How do
Speaker 5: you not know about women dying in Iran fighting against
Speaker 5: compulsoryh jabblers. How do you not know about the fact
Speaker 5: that they're treated like second class citizens. To me, that
Speaker 5: was one of the most disgraceful things I've seen any
Speaker 5: Australian politician do. And you know, kind of had a
Speaker 5: twenty four hour life cycle and we've forgotten about it.
Speaker 5: But this is an indictment on labor because labor pre
Speaker 5: selected this woman, this ignorant what twenty seven, twenty eight year.
Speaker 4: Old, because she ticked a diversity box. Let's be honest.
Speaker 4: She wasn't picked on her credentials.
Speaker 5: She was picked because they value diversity. And they trumpeted
Speaker 5: about how she is the first hijabbi in the Senate.
Speaker 3: And of course Sadik Khan wasn't the only one in
Speaker 3: the UK pushing Ramadan. King Charles, who's of the Christian faith,
Speaker 3: was packing dates to help people celebrate what he called
Speaker 3: the holy month of Ramadan. You know, tolerance is one thing,
Speaker 3: but for the defender of the Christian faith to announce
Speaker 3: that Ramadan is.
Speaker 2: A he recrowns defender of Faith Anglican Church. But there
Speaker 2: you go.
Speaker 4: I'm on board with that.
Speaker 2: Fantastic well, but I agree with you. I think you
Speaker 2: know when the when the head of the Anglican Church
Speaker 2: is out there packing dates for Ramada, you know, I
Speaker 2: raise a question mark. I tend to be more on
Speaker 2: Maloney point of view on that one. That's it for
Speaker 2: us for Outsiders. But you've got so much to look
Speaker 2: forward to during the week. Starting tonight at six o'clock,
Speaker 2: James Morrow's Campaign Confidential, so that'll be running every Sunday
Speaker 2: night at six you don't want to miss it. This
Speaker 2: is the Australian federal election campaign. James is right on
Speaker 2: top of that. Starting tonight, James mc ferson will be
Speaker 2: with us here and Outsiders for that duration of time.
Speaker 2: You've got my Friday show World according Outsiders, you've got
Speaker 2: Rita during the week, and you've got James Ferston on
Speaker 2: the Late Debate. Don't miss that. We'll see you next
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