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Speaker 1: The Tigroon Prix wasn't just a season opener. In my words,

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Speaker 1: it was a statement. The margins are raised thin, the

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Speaker 1: aggression is turned up, and there are writers who have

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Speaker 1: come into twenty twenty six with something to prove. We

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Speaker 1: had penalties, pressure, heat, chaos and crashes, and if this

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Speaker 1: is how we're starting twenty twenty six, we are in

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Speaker 1: for absolute madness. This is the Pit Talk Podcast sponsored

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Speaker 1: by Shannon's Insurance. I'm your host, Rinita Vanmulin. And when

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Speaker 1: Buiram delivers chaos, there's only one man who can turn

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Speaker 1: it into poetry. The Motor GP Wordsmith Matt Clayton. Matt,

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Speaker 1: have you recovered from the Tigron Prix yet, because I

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Speaker 1: sure as hell haven't.

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Speaker 2: It's funny renda hi to everyone listening as well. You

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Speaker 2: made it sound like it was this crazy, chaotic weekend.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure what you're talking about. Marco Perzecki, Cavin

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Speaker 2: just the favorite. Marco Pozeki was on pole. Marco Pozeki

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Speaker 2: won the Grand Prix. I have no idea what you're

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Speaker 2: talking about. It was the most run of the mill, boring,

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Speaker 2: predictable race weekend of all time. Actually it was not

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Speaker 2: because the journey from A to B was not linear,

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Speaker 2: and we have got no shortage of things to talk

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Speaker 2: about in this week's episode, do we It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Matt and I we conversate like all we can do

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Speaker 1: is everything the news of breaking and whatnot. And there

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Speaker 1: was one point yesterday when Matt said, do you know

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Speaker 2: It's so true. It was one of those weekends where

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Speaker 2: and they're all good. So the strength of a story

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's exciting for a prillier and we can

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Speaker 1: Let's go from the start because I feel like there's

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Speaker 1: but where was Peco all weekend? Not even making it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, first time back. You know you missed the last

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Speaker 2: So yes, he's only taken nine points out this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Honest, No, I think you hit the nail on the

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's got two working rims and tires, then he.

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Speaker 1: But it was interesting. Yeah, his post race debrief as well,

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Speaker 1: he even said the same thing. He said his plan

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Speaker 2: a sentence We never thought that we would say. And yes,

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Speaker 2: this track maybe plays to their strengths a little bit

434
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Speaker 2: relative to some others, but we've got enough evidence now

435
00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,040
Speaker 2: that this is clearly an evolving package. It's clearly a

436
00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,439
Speaker 2: good Bikezeki's on the last three Grand Prix and he's

437
00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,680
Speaker 2: led every lap in all three of them through Portugal,

438
00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:08,560
Speaker 2: Valencia and here at Burham, so there's clearly something there

439
00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,879
Speaker 2: and with him, isn't it funny with Buzeki that you know,

440
00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,359
Speaker 2: they'll never admit this. Massimrivlla will never really admit this.

441
00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,960
Speaker 2: He was hired to be the second banana there. Let's

442
00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,359
Speaker 2: be honest. They've spent all their money on Juge Martin.

443
00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,960
Speaker 2: That was the big signing. They prized him away from Ducati,

444
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,240
Speaker 2: and Bozeki was seen as, oh, here's a competent number

445
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,560
Speaker 2: two guy. Yeah, he showed some flashes in twenty three,

446
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,760
Speaker 2: hadn't been great in twenty four. He'll come in and

447
00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,000
Speaker 2: do an okay job. Isn't it funny how he's just

448
00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:39,280
Speaker 2: evolved into this really calm, accomplished sort of team leader.

449
00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,159
Speaker 2: The team rallies around him. He looks so completely at

450
00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,400
Speaker 2: home there. They clearly love what he's doing, and almost

451
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,840
Speaker 2: by accident, you've sort of had this perfect sort of

452
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 2: marriage now of rider and bike and management at the

453
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,359
Speaker 2: right time. They look super, super formidable right now. And

454
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Speaker 2: you said before about ar Ducati still the benchmark or

455
00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,119
Speaker 2: is that slipping We're getting to sort of old Honda

456
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,640
Speaker 2: days here in that Marques will make a bike that's

457
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 2: not quite as good look brilliant because he's Mark Marquez.

458
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,520
Speaker 2: But to my mind, the strength of Ducati is not

459
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 2: what Marquez is doing it's whatever, what is everyone else doing?

460
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,280
Speaker 2: And this was a weekend where we know they had

461
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Speaker 2: that eighty eight run of Grand Prix with at least

462
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Speaker 2: one rider on the podium that was finally snapped, and

463
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,159
Speaker 2: Marquees was the only guy who ever looked likely to

464
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:25,960
Speaker 2: get on the podium on who do catty like the

465
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 2: jan Antonio was okay but not quite there. We mentioned Banyai,

466
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 2: Alex Marquez just looked like another rider. Again, he didn't

467
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 2: look like twenty twenty five runner up Alex Marquez. So

468
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,880
Speaker 2: it's clear that they're their stranglehold over murder GP if

469
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 2: you like. It's not gone, but it's certainly not as

470
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 2: tight as it used to be. And right now the

471
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,120
Speaker 2: Apulia can make the difference. And Bazeki's confidence level right now,

472
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,880
Speaker 2: can you imagine how confident that guy is. The thing

473
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,440
Speaker 2: about the race weekend that I mentioned off the top

474
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 2: was it was so predictable that he was going to

475
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Speaker 2: win the Grand Prix if he didn't keep shooting himself

476
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,640
Speaker 2: in the foot. Is what he spent all day Saturday doing,

477
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 2: fell in practice, fairly qualifying, fell in the spring when

478
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 2: he stopped, you know, throwing his own weekend under the bus.

479
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:09,680
Speaker 2: He was pretty much unbeatable, was he?

480
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: Oh? I mean you said it clear and say he

481
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,879
Speaker 1: came into this weekend as one of the favorites, and

482
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Speaker 1: I thought it was quite funny. It is like that

483
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 1: Spider Man meme of Mark and Mark raping like you're

484
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,919
Speaker 1: the favorite. No, you're gonna win, No, you're gonna win.

485
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

486
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Speaker 1: But I think that that silent confidence, like you mentioned that,

487
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:33,119
Speaker 1: we're really seeing that now. I think that having Jojem

488
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 1: Martine out for a lot of the year meant Savagory

489
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:39,400
Speaker 1: could really work on developing the bike on race weekends,

490
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:43,479
Speaker 1: which has honestly helped Marco Beedzeki, I think more than

491
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,640
Speaker 1: we really know. And then now we're starting to see

492
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 1: this uplift of Okay Joge Martin's back, We're seeing Rool Fernandez,

493
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 1: who was more consistent and I say that with the

494
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 1: little lasteris but towards the end of last year, right,

495
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 1: I go, as in his second year now in Moroto GP,

496
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 1: and we know he needs to be a little bit

497
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 1: more methodical the way he works. So I think overall,

498
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 1: as a package, working with the two teams, I think

499
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: they just got this winning formula that everything seems to

500
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 1: be working in their direction well, and.

501
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 2: The combinations of riders feel right too.

502
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 3: Like the one.

503
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 2: I've still got some question mark simply because he's been

504
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 2: around for a long while and has only recently shown

505
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 2: it as Fernandez. No one's disputing that he's quick. He's

506
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 2: always been quick, but it's always been a bit erratic.

507
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,199
Speaker 2: A Gura is still very young in his journey, and

508
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 2: like you said, he works in a very very different way,

509
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 2: a very very Japanese way of going to work. And

510
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 2: Martin they haven't got the return on the investment that

511
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 2: they expected because he's just been hurt the entire time.

512
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,160
Speaker 2: But you look at the way that Bike's to develop

513
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 2: the technical innovation that you mentioned previously. Both of those

514
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,159
Speaker 2: are Prilia teams have good leadership with Masimon Rivla and

515
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 2: Davide Brivia, like guys who've been around their experienced heads.

516
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 2: That it feels like a really harmonious manufacturer at the moment.

517
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,439
Speaker 2: And it's funny to think that because you know, in

518
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 2: the past Prillia would have two races a year. We'd go, oh,

519
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 2: they look amazingly. They go to Cataluna and Alesia. Spargo

520
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 2: would be fantastic and then they do nothing for six

521
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:09,959
Speaker 2: weeks at the end of the season. So they were

522
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 2: this occasional Oh yes, I've remembered, you're still in Motor GP,

523
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 2: and then you just forget about them for the next

524
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 2: six rounds. They're not like that anymore. They don't have

525
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 2: week tracks, they don't have strong tracks, They just have

526
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 2: a prillier tracks because that bike works pretty much everywhere.

527
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 2: And look for Bazeki's sake, Yeah, he took twenty five

528
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 2: points out of the weekend. He's probably thinking I should

529
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 2: have had thirty four thirty seven points over the weekend.

530
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 2: It's the reason he's not leading the World championship. But

531
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 2: despite the fact that he isn't leading the World Championship,

532
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 2: and despite the fact that Marquez only scored nine points

533
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 2: over the weekend, I think you could look at Acosta,

534
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 2: Berzeki and Marquez as the biggest winners out of the

535
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 2: weekend because they all have a lot to be positive about,

536
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 2: which is not something you say after round bye normally,

537
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 2: is it, And.

538
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 1: Not something you'd say for an Aprilia out of Flyaway

539
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,880
Speaker 1: in a condition as well, which is true. I think

540
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:01,120
Speaker 1: years ago Elisia Mamrick complaining that like they were burning

541
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 1: on the bike and now look how far they come.

542
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: It's insane. But then you look at the other side

543
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: of the thing you mentioned earlier. Mark Marquez is carrying

544
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: the weight of do caddiek Round one. Pedro Acosta is

545
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 1: also carrying the weight of KTM. You know, Bradbinda. Okay,

546
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 1: decent result for Brad Binda to be in the top ten.

547
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: Maverick Vignalez way back, I thought Lorenzo was going to

548
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: come in and show everything. But we know that Maverick's

549
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 1: using the different aero package. We know he's gone completely

550
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 1: different to the other three bikes, but it just seems

551
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 1: like there's this massive gap between Pedro and where the

552
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: rest of them are.

553
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's Pedro KTM and there's everyone else KTM. Isn't

554
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 2: there an AA bastity and you can't qualify at all?

555
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 2: And he's still race as well, And what a great

556
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 2: surprise he came through towards the end of the race

557
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 2: when he managed to save some tie like he already does.

558
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 2: But when you're starting twentieth, it's kind of a moot point.

559
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 2: And Maverick was just one end of the mercurial scales

560
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 2: of the other, and it was the end. You don't

561
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 2: want to be with Maverick this weekend. But yeah, it's

562
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 2: interesting with KTM, you under we need more evidence, I

563
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 2: reckon in that how much of this is them and

564
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 2: how much of this is a Costa, It's really hard

565
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 2: to know. It's hard to separate one from the other.

566
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 2: I think with Ducatti it's probably a little bit easier

567
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 2: to determine right now in that it does feel like

568
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 2: it's more Markers than Ducati at this point. It feels

569
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 2: like he's the difference maker KTM. We need maybe some

570
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 2: more tracks and more normal tracks and more normal temperatures

571
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,199
Speaker 2: to know whether this is sustainable. But a Costa is

572
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 2: putting himself in that difference maker category in that he's

573
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 2: doing for KTM a little bit what Mark is doing

574
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 2: for Dukati the great thing for Aprillier in this conversation.

575
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,719
Speaker 2: And this is not to downplay what Bozeki did all weekend,

576
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 2: because he had the sharpest instrument in the toolkit and

577
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 2: he sliced everyone to pieces with it. He was the

578
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 2: best guy at doing it. But you mentioned before Ralph

579
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 2: anders on podiums in both the Sprint and the Grand Prix.

580
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 2: Jorge Martin looking like a decent facsimile of old Joge

581
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 2: Martin and Iogura coming forward in the race. That bike's

582
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 2: clearly good for everyone. So Bozeki made the best of it.

583
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 2: But you think that the other two manufacturers I mentioned

584
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 2: there's more riding on those two individual riders than there

585
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 2: is with a Prillier, because it feels to me that

586
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 2: the Aprillia is a bike that any of those four

587
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 2: could put on the podium, and I think we'll probably

588
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 2: see that in the next few the next few Grand Prix.

589
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 1: I just want to touch on the tires before we

590
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: move on to the final manufacturers, because it wasn't just

591
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: Mark who had the tire issue this weekend. We know

592
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: that Joey Martin had was waiting for a tire pressure

593
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: penalty like that was all under investigation. He also had

594
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 1: a buckled rim from the race that would let the

595
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 1: air out. We know that Mark had the buckled rim

596
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: and everything like that, and then we know that Luan

597
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: Mia also had the issue with He called it an

598
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 1: external supplier in his.

599
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 3: Post rac very very diplomatic, Bojean, Yes, so we saw

600
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 3: I sent your photo and everyone listening head to the

601
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 3: Fox Socials because I posted that photo of Raoul tire

602
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 3: at the end of the race.

603
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: We know that the tires were the issue there, but

604
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: it wasn't just Mark. It seemed like it was across

605
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: the board that there was either an actual damage happening

606
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: or it was just everyone was struggling to maintain tires

607
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 1: unless you're an Abashanini is just a tire wizard.

608
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, or i Agrew who apparently had It's almost like

609
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 2: he'd taken a pit stop with some brand new ones

610
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 2: on because he was so quick at the end of

611
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 2: the race. Everyone else was just gasping for the finish line.

612
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 2: By the end. They were riding around. We'll get to

613
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 2: Yamaha at some point, but Jack Miller said he was

614
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 2: like riding at one third throttle coming out of the

615
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 2: corners because he was so concerned by the rear tire

616
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 2: towards the end of the race. So it really did

617
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 2: become this war of attrition. I mean, you even saw

618
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 2: Bazeki's tire on the last couple of laps. I think

619
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 2: looked super secondhand, And it's a function of you know,

620
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 2: it was the hottest conditions of the weekend, and just

621
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 2: as as an asside, like the best job in the

622
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 2: world being a weather forecast. It was supposed to pall

623
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 2: with rain on Sunday in according to Logrange weather forecasting,

624
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 2: and then of course it's like blazing hot and thirty

625
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 2: five degrees and weather forecasting is that job where you

626
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 2: can be completely wrong and still keep your job. So

627
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 2: if I come back in a second life, I might

628
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 2: be a meteorologist or something. I think that just permanently employed.

629
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 2: But it was one of those weekends where we hadn't

630
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 2: done full fuel load running on a track that hot

631
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 2: for the entire weekend, so it was a little bit

632
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 2: of a step into the unknown. You know, the sprint

633
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 2: will give you some data, but even the long runs

634
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: in practice weren't giving you the data you needed. And

635
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 2: towards the end of the race, everyone was like, oh

636
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,239
Speaker 2: my god, we're in just full survival mode here. And

637
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 2: there was three riders. I forgot the other one who

638
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 2: looked like he still had some tie left until he's

639
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,479
Speaker 2: wheel buckled. It was Mark Marquez because he was starting

640
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 2: to come back towards the podium. We never saw how

641
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 2: that finished. But other than Agura and well BASIDENI just

642
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 2: doing Basidini things. It felt like Everyone was looking at

643
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 2: that lap board as they came around and going, oh

644
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: my god, how is there still four laps to go?

645
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 2: How is there still three laps to go?

646
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: It was.

647
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 2: If it had gone for one or two more laps,

648
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 2: it would have been fairly interesting. They might have been

649
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 2: walking home, run the riding home. I think.

650
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: I think for me with regards to Honda, I think

651
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: this weekend, Okay, we know that Mia had the issue

652
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: with the tires. We knew that Honda they're still figuring

653
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: stuff out, but they're getting there. They're getting closer. A yeah, yeah,

654
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: I just got to say, Dioga Morrera his rookie race, Okay,

655
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: he came up for a Moto twos, he could ride

656
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: the bike a little bit more like a motor two

657
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: bike and handle his fires. But the fact that he

658
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: scored points in his maiden Moto GP race with lbl

659
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: SO a satellite team, I mean, I take my hat

660
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: off to him. In the heat in those conditions, phenomenal.

661
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 2: Talk about baptism and fire. For your first race, my god,

662
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 2: like literally, you are on fire because it's that hot.

663
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 2: You've never done this amount of laps before in this

664
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 2: amount of heat. It's your first race. You're in the pack.

665
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 2: It's super hard. He was really impressive. I thought, mear

666
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 2: to me is he's literally the unluckiest guy going around,

667
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,479
Speaker 2: because that was looking like a really really strong result

668
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 2: for him. You love that. This is going to sound

669
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 2: like an insult, but it's actually meant as a compliment.

670
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 2: I love how hard the guy tries, Like he tries

671
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 2: harder than anybody else on the grid, Like he just

672
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 2: refuses to I don't know if he'll try sometimes we'll

673
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 2: get that. But Mirrors that guy who just keeps like

674
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 2: he's just pounding the rock the whole time in the

675
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 2: hope that it might split at some point, Like he

676
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 2: just never gives up. He was really stiff because he

677
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 2: was on for a really good result. Honda's got the

678
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 2: right mix of riders right now. When you think about it,

679
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 2: You've got the whole. You know, if Mirror is the fire,

680
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 2: then Marine is the ice. Right They sort of balance

681
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 2: each other out quite nicely. Zarko's the wily vet who

682
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 2: will have one of those one or two races a

683
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 2: year where he's right up the front and maximizes what

684
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 2: he has. Putting a young, fast guy in LCR is

685
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 2: a really good idea I think for this year, given

686
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 2: that everything's going to change for next year. They're not

687
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 2: there yet, Honda, but you can see the pathway for

688
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 2: them getting to where they need to go, and all

689
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 2: they need now is an absolute a list rider And yeah,

690
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 2: that's a rider market conversation for another day.

691
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: I think I think we need to do just a

692
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: whole podcast on the silly season and everything.

693
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 2: When it all breaks, it's going to be a two

694
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 2: hour emergency pot.

695
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be insane. But okay, the

696
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: last manufacturing Moroto GP before we move on to Aussies

697
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: in the lower classes. Where do I even start? How

698
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: do I even begin to describe Yamaha other than my

699
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: heart is breaking for them because you can see the frustration.

700
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: We saw the physical signals that Fabio was giving to

701
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: his bike this weekend. We saw how much you know,

702
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: Jack top Rack were putting in and how they were riding,

703
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: Like when we saw top Rack crash, you could see

704
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: he was almost riding that moj deeper bike like a

705
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: super bike. We saw the write you know, everything around.

706
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: We've heard Alex Rinn saying he goes to his office

707
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: to let out his frustration by screaming, and then Sunday

708
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: afternoon we know that they didn't even send the riders

709
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: up for their debriefs. They sent their team manager, Palepavessio,

710
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: which you wrote an article about on Fox sports dot

711
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: Com Forward Slash Motorsport. Go and check it out. I

712
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: highly recommend because it is just showing, Okay, Yamaha a

713
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: head office, Yamaha as a team are like, you know,

714
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: we're trying, we're doing this, We're fully committed. Then you

715
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: see the one end of the stick where Fabio Cordurao

716
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: is going, I'm over asking for things because I just

717
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: don't get it, and they say they're going to bring

718
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: it in and they're not, and I'm frustrated. You have

719
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: the other end where Jack Miller is like, you know,

720
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: we're developing and we're working and we're getting their top

721
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: Racfras Galioglu, who's the rookie and he's come from being

722
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: at the top of the timing chance to being down

723
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: the back and he's, you know, quite a long way off.

724
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: And then there's Alex Rinz, who we know Alex's history

725
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: and the struggle with the injuries and everything like that

726
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: as a whole. Right now, like all I can say

727
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: is my heart breaks for them. It's it's sad to

728
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,719
Speaker 1: see because we know what Yama are capable of.

729
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, completely, let's how do we tackle this. Let's let's

730
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 2: go the lowest hanging fruit first. I love watching Fabio

731
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 2: Couatra ride motor GP bikes. I don't care for one

732
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 2: word that Fabio says for the rest of this year,

733
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 2: quite frankly, because we know that he's out of there,

734
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 2: and we also know that he had a chance to

735
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 2: leave a couple of years ago and accepted a rather

736
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 2: large sack of money to stay. So he's made his bed.

737
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 2: He's got to lay it for another twenty one rounds.

738
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 2: That's fine, He'll go off and ride for somewhere else.

739
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,879
Speaker 2: You know what he says. At this point, we kind

740
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,399
Speaker 2: of just need to take with a picture salt because

741
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 2: it's never going to be positive as far as the

742
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 2: V four thing goes. Like, you don't make a decision

743
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 2: this seismic to abandon this in line, for that's been

744
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 2: the whole bedrock of all the success they've had without

745
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 2: expecting some pain along the way, right, and in some

746
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 2: respects I admire them for doing it in such a

747
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 2: public forum because you're just leaving yourself open to be

748
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 2: ridiculed by races like this weekend where they were absolutely

749
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 2: hopeless for the entire weekend. I think Jack was the

750
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 2: best place Yamaha in the sprint. I think he's fifteenth

751
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 2: and Kwasrara was the best place Yamaha in the race,

752
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 2: and he was fourteenth only because guys crashed in front

753
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 2: of him was the only reason he scored any points

754
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 2: at all. So to do this in a really public

755
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 2: space is admirable to a degree, but it also shows

756
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 2: you that they literally were at the we've got nothing

757
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 2: to lose. There was nothing for them to lose by

758
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 2: doing this, because they had already touched the sea bed

759
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 2: at this point, they'd already hit rock bottom. Right, If

760
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 2: you're going to extract yourself out of this and become

761
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 2: something like the Yamaha that you used to be, the

762
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 2: sooner you get to the bottom, the faster you can

763
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 2: begin the journey back to the top. Right, And I said,

764
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 2: like a motivational calendar here. But the thing with bread Wall,

765
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,760
Speaker 2: that's fine. Look if you feel like a bit flat,

766
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 2: I've got more of this for you. The thing with

767
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: Yamaha and this particular track to like you almost couldn't

768
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 2: find a worse track for them in terms of the

769
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 2: track layout, because we know the thing's really really slow

770
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 2: in a straight line. It's ten k hours slower than

771
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 2: any other bike in a straight line. And you look

772
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 2: at that layout. Start finished straight leads into a medium

773
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,280
Speaker 2: speed first quarter, really long straight leads into a hairpin,

774
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 2: another really long straight leads into turn four. So by

775
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 2: the time you've done the first two sectors of the lap,

776
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 2: you are positioned absolutely nowhere. And then you could see,

777
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 2: particularly during qualifying, where the Yamaha are like, Okay, we're

778
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 2: getting slaughtered on the straits here. We have to go

779
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 2: deeper into quarters and we have to take more risk.

780
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 2: When you're doing twelve corners a lap for twenty six

781
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 2: laps of a Grand Prix while managing heat and fuel

782
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 2: load and tires, you are riding on a tightrope for

783
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 2: forty something minutes. You cannot possibly get every single one

784
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 2: of these quarters where you have to make the difference right,

785
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 2: and then you lose a tenth here, and you lose

786
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 2: three tenths there, and you lose eight tenths here, and

787
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: so on and so forth, and it just snowballs there'll

788
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 2: be other tracks that come up that have more conventional

789
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 2: layouts that won't make them look as bad as this.

790
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 2: But by the same token, I think they went into

791
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 2: this with pretty low expectations, and you could tell that

792
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 2: the expectations, you could tell the results from the expectations

793
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 2: were even less by the fact that all four riders

794
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 2: were basically excused from doing debriefs, and Yamaha managing director

795
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 2: Palo Pavesio came in there and just threw himself at

796
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 2: the mercy of the media and said, all right, let's

797
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 2: do this, which is admirable for a leader to go

798
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 2: and throw themselves out there and say all right. He

799
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 2: sat there for ten minutes. He did not duck a question.

800
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 2: There were really uncomfortable questions and uncomfortable things to say

801
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 2: in that conversation, but he faced it head on. It's

802
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: dire for Yamaha at the moment, simply because it used

803
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 2: to be the Japanese Cup with them and Honda. Honda

804
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 2: is clear of that. Now they're not in that conversation anymore,

805
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 2: and you've got them floundering around now for the rest

806
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 2: of the year. They're going to lose their biggest asset

807
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 2: in quaateraro. The only thing that can I say save

808
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 2: them is probably a bit strong. But the only thing

809
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 2: you can take some sort of comfort from next year

810
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 2: is this complete reset, right and so you're not going

811
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: to have a situation where what they do this year

812
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 2: is going to have long lasting effects for twenty seven

813
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 2: and twenty eight and years and years and years where

814
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 2: you build on the same regulatory set. There's no guarantee

815
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 2: right now. Who's going to be any good in twenty

816
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 2: twenty seven. We've got an idea, but there's no guarantee,

817
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 2: Whereas if twenty seven just followed on twenty six with

818
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 2: the same rule set, Yamaha would be in an absolute

819
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 2: world of pain right now, because this is going to

820
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 2: take them a long time to get out of. This

821
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 2: year results wise is a write off already. It's what

822
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 2: can they learn this year that they can put into

823
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 2: practice for the eight fifties, and then you would hope

824
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 2: that they could start twenty seven not as far behind

825
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 2: as they are now. It's really hard for them to

826
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 2: deal with this, and anyone that's a Yamaha fan is

827
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 2: looking at this with their hands over their eyes right

828
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 2: now because it's a really tough watch. But This is

829
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 2: almost the pain they had to commit to, because if

830
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 2: you don't commit to that, you're just going to be

831
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 2: floundering around at the back for as many years as

832
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 2: that takes.

833
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: You wrote an article, I made some social content about this,

834
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: and I feel like it's something that I want to say,

835
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: is Okay, Jack Miller, he's out there racing, he's on

836
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: the gritty's physically racing. I don't know if people understand

837
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: just how much work though, he is putting in also

838
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: behind the scenes to try and help develop this bike.

839
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: So they have Agoso Fernandez as their test writer. We

840
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: know that they've got the factory in Japan, they've got

841
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 1: their European one in Italy, Fabian Corduriro. He is there

842
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,720
Speaker 1: to win top rack. He's a rookie, he's there to learn.

843
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 1: Alex Rans Okay, he's been another manufacturer, SOO. I'm sure

844
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: he's helping develop, But I feel like people don't necessarily

845
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: understand just how much Jack Miller is there to race

846
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 1: and to develop the bike on a race weekend to

847
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: help progress them further.

848
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, He's a massive asset for them right now.

849
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 2: And the sort of irony of the whole thing is

850
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 2: that you know, Jack's thirty one. Now, he would a

851
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 2: bit that he's closer to the end in the beginning.

852
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 2: If and when Yamaha gets good, he's likely not going

853
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 2: to be on the grid to sort of reap the

854
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 2: benefits of the work that he put in, which is

855
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 2: like a cruel irony to that to a degree, but

856
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 2: by the same token, without the skill set that he

857
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 2: has and the experience of V four machinery with Honda

858
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,919
Speaker 2: and with Decadian, with Katie m he's the right guy

859
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 2: for them at this particular time in terms of being

860
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 2: able to sort out what doesn't work. And Peter Bom

861
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 2: was saying last week, you know, he goes out and

862
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 2: testing and he's another new chassis, and he's another new

863
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 2: swing arm, and he's another new piece of arrow, and

864
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 2: he's just testing, testing, testing, the entire time. He will

865
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 2: give you clear, concise, unemotional, economic feedback in a language

866
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 2: that the engineers can understand. He's actually almost become an

867
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 2: engineer riding the bike at this point. And he's the

868
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 2: right guy at the right time for them. And look,

869
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 2: there'll come a point that once the Yamaha gets good,

870
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 2: you'll know it's going to start to get good, because

871
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 2: there'll be big name guys that want to ride it,

872
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 2: and that's going to be the thing that sort of

873
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 2: escorts Jack to the exit door of Moto GP to

874
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 2: a degree. But you look at from where he's been

875
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 2: and what he's done, that almost becomes like his legacy

876
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 2: play in the if Yamaha ever get good in the future,

877
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 2: his input and his DNA is going to be in

878
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 2: that bike when it has the resurgence and Yamaha is

879
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 2: too successful in racing and has too much murdor GP

880
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 2: pedigree to be like this forever. This is not going

881
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 2: to be the way it is for Yamaha forever. It's

882
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 2: going to come good. Now, we don't know when that's

883
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 2: going to happen, so his biggest impact will be felt

884
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,479
Speaker 2: after he's gone, when he's just sitting on the couch

885
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 2: watching it like everybody else. But I think he's the

886
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 2: right guy at the right time now, because, as you mentioned,

887
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 2: Quaterero has got one and a half legs out the

888
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,280
Speaker 2: exit door at this point and it's not the world's

889
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 2: most technical writer at the best of times. Alex Ridds

890
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 2: has just never really been the same ever since he

891
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 2: hard himself back in twenty twenty three and as good

892
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 2: as top rack racidet the old who's riding a motorcycle.

893
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 2: He's still a rookie. He's twenty nine year old bo

894
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 2: to GP rookie who's never written OD Michelin tires before.

895
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 2: There's only going to be a limit to what he

896
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 2: can provide. So in terms of the job description, the

897
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 2: only other guy that you would say could do a

898
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 2: pretty good facsimile of what Jack is doing right now

899
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 2: would be Luca Marini, which is interesting because he's been

900
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 2: linked with Yamaha as well, and Luca's that little bit younger,

901
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 2: and he's incredibly technically astute, and anyone that's listened to

902
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 2: her Luca Maroney press debrief will just literally sit there

903
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 2: and say, how many things did you just tell us?

904
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 2: Because he's so brilliant at describing what goes on with

905
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 2: the bike. Jack's that little bit older and has that

906
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 2: little bit more experience with other manufacturers. But to me,

907
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 2: Marine is the next Miller in terms of the guy

908
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 2: who's been rapid enough to do things in motor GP,

909
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 2: but also is really good from an engineering point of view.

910
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 2: And I don't see this anyone else on the grid

911
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 2: right now that would necessarily be able to do what

912
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 2: Jack is doing for Yamaha. So we were talking about

913
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 2: this off air before, and I'm happy to hitch you

914
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 2: a flag to the mast on this one. I'm more

915
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 2: confident than Jack will bille on the grid next year

916
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 2: than I was this time last year. I think he'll

917
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 2: be in there for twenty twenty seven, even if his

918
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 2: results in twenty twenty six are worse than they were

919
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five, and his results in twenty twenty

920
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 2: five weren't great when you look at the stats themselves,

921
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 2: but there's an immeasurable there's something that's not easy to

922
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: measure in terms of raw numbers with Jack, with what

923
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 2: he's doing with that project at this time, and I

924
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 2: feel that he's in the right place for them. And

925
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 2: I also feel that he's kind of relishing the chance

926
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 2: to steer this thing from a directional point of view,

927
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 2: because his days of chasing Grand Prix wins and podiums

928
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 2: and all of that are probably over. But you can

929
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 2: still find satisfaction and make an impact in Motor GP

930
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 2: without necessarily being at the top of the time sheets

931
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 2: or high on the standings.

932
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: Going to move from the seriousness for a second. But

933
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: I want to stay on Pramaha.

934
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,439
Speaker 3: Because Pramaha drink, Ramha have a drink.

935
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: Okay, they were it was an all doom and gloom

936
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 1: for them this weekend because they did win the inaugural

937
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: took took odd and I just have to say, Okay,

938
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 1: if you were to look at personalities, Pramaha are the

939
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: winners there. Okay, yeah, they won the race. Jack and

940
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:24,720
Speaker 1: top Rack together.

941
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 2: Wasn't that so cool?

942
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 1: I mean the fact that Jack was in Crocs as well,

943
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: like it doesn't get more Australia.

944
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 2: The most jack thing of all the time. He's the

945
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 2: world's oldest thirteen year old Jack Mill like he's his

946
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 2: sweet spot for Cuba is in that sort of eleven

947
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 2: to fourteen year old boy rage, which is awesome because

948
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 2: it was it's been a long time since he was

949
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 2: eleven toty eleven to forty year old boy. But of

950
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 2: the two that were going to make the most of

951
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 2: barreling around it, a couple of took. Of course it

952
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 2: was going to be those two.

953
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: Wasn't it just hilarious and them hanging out the side

954
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: and whatnot. But we got to see the personalities and

955
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: I think that from an outside, like a fan of

956
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: the sport, this is what we want to see. Is

957
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: it's so hard to sit here and be like yeah,

958
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: I'm aha this and how bad they are. But then

959
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: you see something like that. And I was watching it

960
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: live here in Australia.

961
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 2: It was hysterical.

962
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: It was so funny.

963
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 2: It reminded me. Do you remember last year with the

964
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 2: fy and Racey had and the lego cars? It was

965
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 2: the same as where they let the drivers loose in

966
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 2: a bunch of cars turn into made out of lego

967
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 2: and they turned into twelve year olds all of a sudden.

968
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,280
Speaker 2: It was hilarious. What we need now is for every

969
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: Murder GP race weekend to come up with a variation

970
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 2: on a theme whatever the national thing is. We need

971
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 2: to have a race of bit talktalks or whatever it

972
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 2: is around the world. I'm trying to think what the

973
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 2: Australian sort of equivalent might be like. Is it like

974
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 2: porter loose, like a Porter luver on PARI something along

975
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 2: those lines. Is that what we need to do?

976
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 1: I was thinking the same thing when I was watching it,

977
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: going what could we do at Philip Island this year?

978
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: And I live on the Sunshine coast here in Australia,

979
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: and there's a big pub not far from here called

980
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,479
Speaker 1: the Edamoga Pub is what it used to be called,

981
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: and they used to do dunny races on Australia Day.

982
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:00,879
Speaker 2: There we go.

983
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: Would you imagine if we had some form of this

984
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: at the Australian and Grand Prix.

985
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 2: I think, yes, yes, I can, Yes, I can a GPC.

986
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 1: If you're listening, let's go out with the bang, shall

987
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: we for Philip Violets? Oh boy?

988
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, But honestly, can you imagine the carnage will

989
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 2: be around there? And the thing is that'd all be

990
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 2: up for it as well. The thing that amused me

991
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,439
Speaker 2: in the Tooktok race, other than Jack being in croc

992
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 2: standing on the back of this thing, really Jorge Martin

993
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 2: deciding to just not take the last two quarters of

994
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,240
Speaker 2: the track just so he could beat Marquez and Bagyara.

995
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 2: As they were coming through, he saw a line through

996
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 2: the grass and said, I'm going through there. I was

997
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 2: worried that thing was going over given the speedy attack

998
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 2: the grass. Isn't it funny like you give you give

999
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 2: a bunch of races, something motorized and it's all supposed

1000
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,959
Speaker 2: to be proper and have some decorum, and they turned

1001
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 2: into twelve year olds and it's great to you. I

1002
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 2: loved it.

1003
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: Oh, it's brilliant. Honestly, Donna m seg well done for

1004
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: doing that, because I think it's great. I think it's

1005
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: another way we can see the personalities. It's our version

1006
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: of drive to survive. But Wayne were entertaining in my

1007
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:01,720
Speaker 1: point of view.

1008
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 2: Well, there's one of those two things that I've watched,

1009
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 2: and I don't think you needed to tell you which

1010
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 2: one of those I'm watching it. It's not the four

1011
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 2: wheel one.

1012
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: Before we finish up this podcast, we have to quickly

1013
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: touch on our Aussies because you know, we've got to

1014
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: give them their props. Now, Sena ageis rollercoaster of a

1015
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: weekend securing his maiden Moto two pole. Then we had Sunday,

1016
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: we had that chaotic start to the race. We found

1017
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: out it was a tech issue, something to do with

1018
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: the ECU. We had Jack Appley, I'll tell us on

1019
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: the broadcast. Now we both still haven't heard entirely, and

1020
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,240
Speaker 1: we're hoping to catch up with Sena at some point

1021
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: to find out a bit more about that. But then

1022
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: the fact that he was involved in that crash with

1023
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: Philip Salach and David Alonzo. I mean lucky that the

1024
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 1: two other writers, so Senna and Philip were able to

1025
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: restart Orbit from pit Lane from the two restarts that

1026
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: happened after the original race restart, and then happy that

1027
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: David Alonzo's all okay, you know, a bit of injury,

1028
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 1: but no no major damage there. But for Senna, I

1029
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: don't know about you, Matt. When I first started watching

1030
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: the race, I saw him into these first corners and

1031
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: I saw him getting overtaken, and I was saying to myself, Okay, Senta,

1032
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: calm down. It seems like you know, you're not writing

1033
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: how you normally do. Then we know that there was

1034
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 1: that issue there, but I mean the pressure because in

1035
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 1: the broadcast as well, leading up, we've heard Bertie saying,

1036
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: you know, Senna's been linked to Moto GP rides for

1037
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: next year, and all of a sudden he's on pole

1038
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: the first race of the year, and we know that

1039
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 1: the intact bike's good and man, who's really fast and

1040
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. I mean, what would Senna have been

1041
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,280
Speaker 1: thinking sitting on pole position? But then also the drama

1042
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: that over felled do you think he handled it Okay?

1043
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean probably if you asked him at the

1044
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 2: start of the weekend whether he expected to be on pole,

1045
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 2: he would have said, I would like to be on pole.

1046
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 2: I'm not sure you would have necessarily expected it. Moto two,

1047
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 2: to me at the moment, is a category where there's

1048
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:55,399
Speaker 2: not just an absolute outstanding you know, potential goat maybe

1049
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 2: other than a Lonso in the field, but man, it's

1050
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 2: even and there's guys that can win ray. This is

1051
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 2: a get on podiums from everywhere. So it felt that

1052
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 2: once he lost the lead early, it felt that he

1053
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 2: wasn't necessarily playing the long game. It felt like he

1054
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 2: was pretty desperate to get back to the front again.

1055
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 2: And then obviously the bike had an issue. And the

1056
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 2: worst thing in that situation is when you've got a

1057
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 2: bike with an issue and you know it is and

1058
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 2: you just don't want someone to run into you. And

1059
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 2: unfortunately that issue happened with a lot So in the

1060
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 2: absolute worst possible part of the track that sort of

1061
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 2: switched back a little bit unsited. So we're glad that

1062
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 2: everyone's okay out of that. But I think the thing

1063
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 2: that AG has showed over the weekend. I don't expect

1064
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 2: this a bit the last time we see him up there,

1065
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 2: and you remember he's still relatively young in the World

1066
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 2: Championship journey, right, He's not just a front runner every

1067
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 2: single weekend. We've shown on his good weekends he can

1068
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 2: be absolutely untouchable, like Philip Island last year. That's one

1069
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 2: to file in the experienced basket. I reckon and the

1070
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 2: next time you see him on the front row or

1071
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 2: on pole, I would dare say he'd probably approach it

1072
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 2: a little bit differently.

1073
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I agree. I think that weekend there was

1074
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: a lot of emotion, especially in that first race, got

1075
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: something to prove. You know, he's in his twenties. We

1076
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: saw what the runners are like on TikTok, so imagine

1077
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: what you are when you're trying to prove to get

1078
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: into Moto GP. I think, yeah, center, another weekend, bank learn,

1079
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: continue grow. Like you said, it's going to be a

1080
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: strong year. Then we're going to Motor three. We're going

1081
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 1: to Joel Kelso, new manufacturer, new team. Started the weekend

1082
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: off strong, same thing just fell back down throughout. I

1083
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: think he finished eighteenth in the end. On Sunday's Grand

1084
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: Prix and even he said, he's like, that's not the

1085
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: result he was wanting. What's your take on Joel this

1086
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: year is the MLAVE? Is it going to be a

1087
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 1: lot trickier than he thought moving from the KTM to

1088
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: the Honda.

1089
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean look relative to you know, he and

1090
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,240
Speaker 2: his teammate, we're occupying the same part of tarmac for

1091
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 2: the most of the race. And maybe that was the

1092
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 2: level of that bike on that day at that time,

1093
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 2: not what he would have wanted to start with. I mean,

1094
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 2: did actually score points? I think it's fourteenth in the end,

1095
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 2: is the only Australian that score points, which is a

1096
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,240
Speaker 2: bit of a grim statistic for the Aussie fans for Thailand.

1097
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 2: But again in new address for him, we know it's

1098
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 2: a big year for him. It kind of feels like

1099
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 2: it feels like something definitive needs to happen for Joel

1100
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 2: this year, you know, positive or negative. It feels there

1101
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 2: needs to be a resolution this year. Not the not

1102
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 2: the start that he would have wanted, but also not

1103
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 2: terrible either in that there were flashes of promise there

1104
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 2: that it could be quite good one to file away

1105
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 2: and build on. But yeah, he you expected him that

1106
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 2: he might come forward a little bit, and he kind

1107
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 2: of felt like he stalled out a little bit there.

1108
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 2: It was as a strange Motor of three race actually,

1109
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 2: and that it just turned into a one on one

1110
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 2: battle at the end. That was quite a big breakaway.

1111
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 2: But I don't imagine that we're going to be seeing

1112
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,439
Speaker 2: him sitting in fourteenth for too long. I think that's

1113
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 2: going to come forward pretty quickly, I hope.

1114
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: So I hope that we can see center and Joel

1115
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: closer to the front again, because I mean, last year,

1116
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,399
Speaker 1: we both know the battles were happening Moto three though,

1117
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: it's just it's some of the best racing. The people

1118
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: who don't watch it, and we say this all the

1119
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: time on the pods, watch Moto three. It is so good.

1120
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Speaker 2: I always say it's the last lap for twenty sta

1121
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 2: because that's how it feels. There's an intensity the way

1122
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 2: those races go. There's none of this I will just

1123
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 2: build to the boil here. It's like, oh, the gloves

1124
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 2: are off from the start. What I quite liked about

1125
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 2: the race on Sunday was sometimes those massive pack races

1126
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 2: where you could literally throw a handkerchief over about fifteen

1127
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 2: to them on the last lap of fun, but a

1128
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 2: bit of a lottery one on one battle's quite fun

1129
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 2: for the tactics that they employ, and particularly the way

1130
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 2: that particular racetrack is. You know that the last corner

1131
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 2: is going to feature somewhere because of the way that

1132
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 2: that track configuration is so yeah, really really good TV

1133
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 2: and probably shouldn't be legal, but I'm glad it is.

1134
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: The fact that it was like zero point zero zero

1135
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: three was the gap between al Manza and Kilez over

1136
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: the line. I would be posted a photo on the

1137
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,439
Speaker 1: Fox Social so if you want to see, you can

1138
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: see the line where they're front wheels. The difference, it's insane.

1139
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 2: One third of the width of a front tire basically

1140
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 2: after thirty five minutes of racing gets pretty nuts.

1141
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 1: It's funny. You just mean, I'm probably never going to

1142
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: forget that took to crase to end the podcast, so guys,

1143
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: I promise. But the fact that Matt Burt was going

1144
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 1: look at the gap. They've got about five talk talks

1145
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 1: in between them at the moment. I love the fact, honestly,

1146
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it so much. I think

1147
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,399
Speaker 1: I think we've spoken enough about Thailand. We have We've

1148
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: got a little bit of a break now before they

1149
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: head to Brazil. Now, I've been asking everyone what do

1150
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 1: they know about Brazil. All I can tell you guys

1151
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: so far is apparently it's about thirty lap race, so

1152
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: the laps are shorter, but it's gonna be quite quick.

1153
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: But I am excited because first time we have been

1154
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: to Brazil in forever, We've got a Brazilian writer. It

1155
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: seems like it's gonna be a party. You guys at home. Sorry,

1156
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to end this out. Man, We've been

1157
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 1: talking too long, you guys at home. You can catch

1158
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 1: every practice, qualifying, Sprint, and Grand Prix A live from

1159
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 1: the Brazilian Grand Prix Live and I Break Free on

1160
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: Fox Sports and KO Big. Thank you as always to

1161
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,680
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1162
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: date all of Matt's and news on foxsports dot Com,

1163
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 1: dot Au, Forward Slash Motorsport. Plus you can follow us

1164
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:10,040
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1165
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: to the Pittalk podcast so you never miss an episode.

1166
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: And we're on YouTube now as well, so you can

1167
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 1: see our beautiful faces and you can watch us too,

1168
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 1: but from Matt Clayton and myself, it's been an hour.

1169
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: Thank you for sticking around. We're gonna be back real

1170
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Speaker 1: soon with more Moto GP pit talk