WEBVTT - NRL 360 - Not correct! Des calls out NRL over high tackle rulings & Fogarty signs with Manly - 29/04/25 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:03.880 Hmm. 0:00:12.240 --> 0:00:14.400 I was on two n RL three sixty rugby league 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:17.040 from every angle joining me in the great Gordon Tallis 0:00:16.840 --> 0:00:20.800 bring the journals in, Paul Crawley and Andrew Webster. Interesting 0:00:21.000 --> 0:00:23.079 round of footy on the weekend, that you enjoy the 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:23.800 weekend's footing. 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:24.720 I love sim bins. 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:26.840 I just think there should be more of them. Don't 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:28.560 need to wrap the games at all. Now, what's up? 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:31.040 You know the footy has been great. 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:32.839 We just need to get the officials out of the way. 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:35.920 Just be great if you could talk about the footy. 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:38.680 Hopefully after magic round we can now. The sin bin 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:42.080 saga continues tonight, with Titans coach Des Has hitting out 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:44.240 at the NRL denying his team he is the most 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:45.880 penalized in the competition. 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:47.360 Take a look the. 0:00:47.800 --> 0:00:50.200 Most penalized team in competition for high tackles. 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:50.880 What do you make of that? 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:55.200 Yeah, it's interesting stat and it doesn't mean it's correct 0:00:57.000 --> 0:01:02.520 and consultation it might appeal at that. 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:04.720 I can assure you it's not correct. 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:06.400 So for Andrew to say that there has been a 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:07.039 correct down. 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:08.040 Us is wrong. 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:09.920 And it seems like all of a sudden that you 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:12.240 know we're going to move the gold posts, which is 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:16.200 not the not a clear response. Why are we moving 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:19.000 the gold posts all of a sudden, I don't think 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:22.280 coming out and changing all this now moving the goal post, 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:27.600 I think it's not being honest with the integrity of 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:28.039 the game. 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:31.240 Are you after four losses and a couple of them? 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:34.480 No, No, we take full will take full responsibility to 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:37.240 four losses. So don't say that I never said that. 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:45.400 You said that he's off at the NRL. 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:48.200 The NL are moving the goal posts. 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:51.360 Ah, And I don't. 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:54.200 Think they're moving the goal post. I think they're clamping down. 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:56.720 And last night when we saw the stats, I must 0:01:56.720 --> 0:01:59.040 have been reading the wrong ones because the Titans were leading, 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:01.000 the comp went we shod here well. 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:04.520 Is the most head Eige tackles. He's saying they haven't, But. 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:08.040 Is he alluding to other teams get away with them? 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:09.120 That's the point. 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:11.280 That's the point when when you when you put those 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:14.839 figures up last night, you can read them two ways. Yeah, 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:17.160 the Titans are on top, but as we all know, 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:19.880 we're seeing some that are being panalized that shouldn't be 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:23.200 penalties and some that are getting this from other teams. 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:26.519 That changes the landscape, and there's no question in the world, 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:29.040 no question in the world. In the last month, we've 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:32.520 seen a change, Gordon. You can't deny the goalposts have 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:33.760 changed in the last month. 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:35.400 It was the line that was sort of trotted out 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:39.400 by Andrew Abdo on his charm offensive yesterday, like he 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:42.320 spoke to everybody, and I remember talking to Andrew earlier 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:44.120 in the day and he made the point that, you know, 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:47.040 head high tackles are significantly more at this point of 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:48.280 the season than last year. 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:49.520 But you're right. 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:51.680 The counter argument to that is is that they're they're 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:54.959 calling more and more head high tackles when they actually aren't. 0:02:55.160 --> 0:03:00.480 So I'm less concerned about them like calling it tackles 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:02.880 as the inconsistency of when they're calling them from game 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:03.639 to game, from. 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:05.400 From official to official. 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:06.560 That's I think that's. 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:08.560 The thing that we're all worried about heading into Magic Ground, 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:10.560 that we're just going to have the repeat of what 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:12.240 we saw in twenty one, and that's the last thing 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:12.960 the game needs. 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:16.000 We're actually sitting arguing over the force. Well, it wasn't hard, 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:17.440 but isn't it if you hit him in the head, 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:18.160 you hit him in the head. 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:20.680 It's the fairness of the Gordy you showed last night 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:23.480 the knee in the head, right, there's no excuse in 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:26.840 the world that the bunker missed that. Everyone that watches 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:30.160 that game sees that happen, and the injustice and the 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:32.119 unfairness of it. And even though it was the same 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:34.960 team that got lost to Bloke A tackle later, is 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:37.600 that you look at the second that the tackler of Montoya, 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:43.160 it doesn't warrant a sinbin if Tupereneurs doesn't. 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:45.240 And there's no way in the world they miss that. 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:48.280 You can't miss that the Burden one in the same 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:49.480 game that the. 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:52.520 Burden one when they called up the game and showed 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:54.360 that and put him on report, yet they didn't send 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:56.680 him to the sinbin. How the hell, How the hell 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:59.280 is that not synbin if we're seeing all these other 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:02.920 ones that are synbind In the South Sydney game, there 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:06.880 was a crusher tackle, you know, that's head contact. Memozulas 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:08.360 was on the ground. I think it was trently Erro 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:11.000 did the tackle. He's sitting there, he's holding his neck. 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:11.960 No penalty. 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:15.040 It's the fairness of it all. There's no fairness at 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:15.400 the moment. 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:18.520 Fair to be fair, ABDA come on last night admitted 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:20.920 they got it wrong and said there will be immediate change. 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:23.760 So as much as yeah, I agree with you Cross, 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:26.720 you know they've been getting it wrong. You know, I 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:29.440 do question the no crackdown by the NRL, and I 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:32.160 think Desi's right there, there's been a crack like that 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:36.080 because the players haven't changed the way that they play 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:39.120 that much for the amount of penalties that have been given, 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:43.080 synbins and reports and you name it. So they're definitely 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:45.840 refereeing differently too. And I mentioned that to Andrew last night. 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:48.120 It's not just the bunker, you know that they are 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:50.800 giving more head EIE penalties that shouldn't be and there's 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:52.320 definitely more synbins that shouldn't be. 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:54.360 Full credit to Abdoor to be able to say that, 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:55.880 you know, to admit that they got it wrong. You 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:58.680 know what I'm interested in is what he said in 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:03.320 all his interviews yesterday, is how much reach the bunker 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:05.040 is going to have during Magic Round. Is it going 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:08.400 to go back and pull up, you know, indiscretions from 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:10.640 earlier in the in the set. That's going to be 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:13.360 the interesting thing because he seems to think that that threshold, 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:15.680 as he was calling it, needs to be needs to 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:17.479 be lifted, and that's going to be interesting to see 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:20.120 in Magic Round, just where that thresholds at. 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:22.440 The referees are always going to push the envelope. I 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:24.760 think we're missing the point. If they changed the technique 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:26.640 of all the players and they get hit in the 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:32.000 head less, there's going to be less Papa. 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:31.919 The last couple of nights off because you think the 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:33.480 players are going to responsible now. 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:35.200 I think tackling techniques really pull that. 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:39.320 Bolly comes in and there's Hazeltin runs, He's got his 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:42.160 rib cage open, and he stands up and hits him 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:42.360 in there. 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:43.640 That's the one offense. Gordon. 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:46.120 You can't pin this back on the coaches and the 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:47.920 players and tackling technique. 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:49.680 I'll tell you what. Okay, So where they learn? A 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:50.320 year ago? 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:55.000 A year ago, hang on a second last June I 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:56.160 wrote a story Bennett. 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:58.000 There was so much frustration in the game. 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:00.480 Bennett couldn't bite his tongue anymore, bring me up, and 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:02.520 he wanted to do a story about it because he 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:04.479 was so fed up and everyone in the game was 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:06.800 so fed up. He came up with some really great 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:09.480 ideas right at the end of the season. They sat 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:12.599 weighing down, they said, Ivan Cleary and Ricky Stewart, and they. 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:13.880 Came up with a plan. Well guess what. 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:16.240 They didn't bring the plan into play, and we're a 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:18.839 year down the track and it hasn't got better, mate, 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:21.440 it has got worse. They came up with a plan 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:25.520 that perhaps could have fixed the sinbin problem that we 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:28.200 have at the moment while still punishing high tackles. 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:29.440 They ignored it. 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:33.479 Andrew Abdo said last night, we might look at it 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:35.440 at the end of the year. They looked at the 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:37.440 end of last year, and they trialed it in a trial. 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:41.960 They spoke about putting regular people in the bunker, right 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:44.599 for regular people that could be there every week to 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:46.040 try and get some consistency. 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:48.080 Never happened. Never happened, Never happened. 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:52.440 To Mate, reference a game because this could have been 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:54.680 sorted out, or at least we would be on the 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:55.400 right track. 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:57.320 But to me and to many many. 0:06:57.120 --> 0:07:01.160 Fans out there, mate, backwards, I used to used to 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:03.800 get penalized if you gave way a penalty. It was taboo. 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:06.520 Now I reckon your coach to give away penalties. That's 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:08.520 why six to go to coming. They don't care how 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:09.400 many penalties. 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:14.840 Believe is coached injured. I would back there, but I 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:17.360 would suggest mate on the try line. Yeah, their coach 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:19.760 to give away penalties and slow down the game and 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:20.400 that sort of stuff. 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:23.120 They probably don't care. But I wouldn't say I like 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:25.200 the only I would like. 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:27.840 I would like every week to challenge every coach to 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:29.000 come down the park and run. 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:29.720 And I hit him in the. 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:32.640 Head the only delivery active. 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:36.960 And I hit him at I said, man, I'm sorry, 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:39.760 I just slipped you know, MAT's up and just see 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:40.640 whether they like it. 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:41.880 And I don't think that they would. 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:43.960 I didn't like it when I'm playing and now you 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:45.880 see them all getting hit in the head and they 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:48.000 just run, bend your back I. 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:50.040 Speak to I don't A lot of coaches were on 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:51.960 the point your I think it's all a lot of 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:55.720 factors to be to the game, the surface, the interpret 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:58.400 But but I agree with you, Gordy, because I've been 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:00.480 writing this for a few years, because you talk to 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:02.640 coaches about it. Did they think that you know, the 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:05.360 two players, the two defenders coming in that up high. 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:08.520 That's a big part of it. So let me ask 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:10.720 you this, Then, what do you say to those, and 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:12.800 the great Mic Cronan has been a propeller this for 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:16.040 a long time. Two in the tackle, I don't mind it. 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:18.560 But I don't know why we don't even try that. 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:19.480 Why we don't even. 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:22.640 Consider that because the athletes got two seconds because the 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:25.400 athletes got too good, got too big, too big and too. 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:26.000 That would take it. 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:29.320 That would take a while to for players to get 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:31.200 you still, So that's not an off season thing. 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:32.480 That that's that's a whole. 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:39.600 Fifteen the interchange and everything else comes having an idea. 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:43.160 It's good enough for me. 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:47.880 Krona haven't appear on the show because there's one on 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:48.400 one right. 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:51.120 And then in my era, the player the balls got 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:53.120 so quick, so I had to be two in a tackle, 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:55.400 and now they play the balls didn't slow down, so 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:57.520 now there's three just to slow it down. 0:08:57.640 --> 0:09:01.160 So you don't have as many rocking friends either. And 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:02.880 the leg tackle wasn't getting rewarded. 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:04.520 Get rid of the sixth to go, which is so 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:06.439 subjective anyway, the tackle. 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:09.079 It's not just fans that are blowing up though the 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:11.839 immoral Joey he was feelthy, wasn't he? 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:14.559 And that it was well reported and on TV and 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:14.840 all that. 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:16.640 Yeah, he put the headset down here. 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:20.160 I wrote that in The Australian yesterday he with twenty 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:21.920 look at that look at that head Jesus. 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:26.880 Yeah, and I reckon, I'm bigger than current and he 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:27.880 hits him in the head. 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:29.880 So that was a send off, wasn't it. 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:31.559 I thought? 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:35.240 But this, this story in terms of Joey, like I mean, 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:38.600 it just shows you know, people give Joey, have different 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:40.319 opinions on Joe Jo love the fact that he's so 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:42.599 unfielded and it's such a fan of the game that 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:44.439 he could not call the last twenty three minutes of 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:46.959 that match for Channel nine. He just put his put 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:51.079 his his microphone down after the bole a well, when 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:52.959 it got to Golden Point they trying to engage, he said, 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:54.720 I hope there's no head highs and then said nothing 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:56.400 for the rest of the game. To me, that just 0:09:56.480 --> 0:10:01.440 sums up the frustration, particularly and former players about what's 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:02.040 going on in the game. 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:04.280 It's not just former players though, it's the fans too. 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:07.160 You look, you look at any online story that that 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:10.559 talks about the crackdown all the sin bins at the moment, 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:13.280 and the majority of fans feel so frustrated Gordy and 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:16.240 this is what the game can't ignore because people love 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:18.800 rugby league. Well you know what your friends will say, 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:21.600 oh wait, watch the footing next week. They're always back 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:23.640 on watching the footy because they love rugby league. 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:26.679 But they still care. 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:29.600 That was the dumbest one out of the weekend. 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:32.520 You know, it just sort of put an exclamation point 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:33.040 on the weekend. 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:36.520 Really, that's a creature of habit. Yeah, because that's what. 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:38.559 It's not even a penalty though, is it. 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:42.559 It's if it's a penalty, it's only just why does 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:43.800 he hit him in the head. 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:45.679 To wrap up the ball? 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:48.679 And you're right, it's look he got him high and 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:52.120 he has got his ribs cage there that he But 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:52.720 the fact. 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:56.160 That it's not a sin being Gordy, it has never 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:56.760 been a sin. 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:59.480 Bin get ten of those a game. As I said, 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:01.040 just go down bunk, just get someone. Just keep on 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:01.600 it in your hand. 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:02.240 Do it now. 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:05.520 It's annoying. 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:11.559 You're pretty outspoken about Latrell Mitchell. It's him been in 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:14.920 now one week suspension. You don't believe he should have been. 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:16.160 I'll tell you what I don't believe. 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:20.080 I don't believe it's fair that Latrell gets one week 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:22.880 for that and he gets sin binned. And Isaiah Yo 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:26.280 hits Tom Travoyevitch with a swinging arm and again I'll 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:28.600 call him both Rugby League accidents in a way. 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:32.080 But Yo hits him and gets nothing, Mane. 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:34.199 This is it all goes back to the fairness, and 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:37.000 in fairness to Latrell. Litrell's a bloke that is so 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:40.240 polarizing in our game, and so many people love him 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:41.360 and others don't like him. 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:44.240 But when that tackle happened, there's an immediate blow up. 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:46.040 Oh he should have been sent off. But when you 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:49.480 actually look at the tackle and Faye Logo. 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:52.520 Comes sliding in different circumstances and Latrell hits him right, 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:54.920 Falgo actually knocks himself out when. 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:56.400 When his head hits the ground. 0:11:56.559 --> 0:11:57.440 This was careless at all. 0:11:58.320 --> 0:11:59.000 Yeah, it's careless. 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:01.360 But what I'm saying is it's the unfairness because then 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:04.720 you get Yo that gets understand that, and that's the problem. 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:05.360 With the game at the moment. 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:10.480 Thought for Latrell's I'd take the week and run. 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:13.560 If that's how I saw it, I saw it differently 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:17.000 because I reckon we've seen accidents in the game forever, 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:19.520 and you'll never get it out of the game unless 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:22.120 you's unless you put on os tag or you put 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:25.599 on touch footy, because it's a collision sport and unfortunately 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:26.480 it's going to happen. 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:29.520 He's sliding on the wet ground there and he and 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:31.120 he's and he's engaged. 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:33.199 Latrell and he was going to pass the ball. 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:38.160 So quick on what he's going to do and the 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:41.240 defenders moving forward when standing there in the defensive. 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:44.840 I'm happy if he stays on the field and let 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:46.720 the matter review handle it, you know what I mean. 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:49.439 I just think they're so trigger happy with with sending 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:52.240 boats to the bin. But then again, the bunker and 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:54.760 the referees are under instructions from those above them. 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:57.640 The direction is going to come. What about magic around 0:12:57.679 --> 0:12:59.560 this weekend? What's a pass mark? 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:00.240 Again? 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:02.640 Andrew Abdo was on sitting right there where you are, 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:05.800 Cruls and he said, it's not going to be the same. 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:08.480 They're going to pull back on the bunker. They're not 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:09.920 going to interrupt the game. 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:13.439 The referees probably won't be as harsh with their judgment 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:14.280 of high tackles. 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:16.199 What's a past mark? 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:16.840 Common sense? 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:19.840 Common sense is a pass mark? Like you can't put 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:23.079 a number on what's right and what's wrong. But we 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:25.679 speak about it all the time. The majority of people 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:30.240 will sit down and they will agree what constitutes as 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:32.719 send off, what constitutes has sin bin, and what's a 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:34.319 penalty and what you let go. 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:36.600 We just want to see common sense. 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:38.560 Okay, what are we expecting then, more more so than 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:40.719 a pass mark? Do we think that it's going to 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:43.480 be a lot different this weekend from the conversation we 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:45.160 had with the NLCO. 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:48.280 I think it's going to be significantly different. 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:51.040 Oh, I think so too, But I wouldn't even want 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:53.360 to try and forecast what it's going to look like. 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:56.760 Like I mean, honestly, it's so all over the place 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:58.760 at the moment, like I've got no I actually am 0:13:58.800 --> 0:13:59.720 worried about how it's. 0:13:59.600 --> 0:13:59.880 Going to go. 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:04.600 We're not talking about magic round. If we're talking about 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:07.160 Sinbin's on Monday morning, that's a failure for. 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:11.400 The Can we live with if the referee misses it? 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:16.840 Yes, for mate, that's what the mat We're always going 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:19.040 to debate the game, mate, We're always going to debate 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:21.280 the game. But they missed the Burton one the other day, right, 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:23.960 I wasn't upset that they missed the Burton one. I 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:26.920 was upset when they saw the Burton one they didn't 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:28.440 Sinbinni all right. 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:30.920 Circling back to des at the top of the show, 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:34.760 we're going back there, and the reporter, which he caught 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:38.440 my eye, am i ear said are you deflecting from 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:40.240 the last four losses? 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:45.200 Yes, Daz and Wayne Bennett are the masters of using 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:48.080 the press to distract attention from their team. I've got 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:50.400 no doubt that that's what des has done. I also 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:53.480 don't understand why he's done his press conference this morning 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:59.320 or earlier today and not after dropping David Tafita. I 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:02.400 think that's prettyordinary from Deaz. I know Desert's mind games, 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:04.280 and I love deserts so much anyone. 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:06.960 He's done the press conference before, it looks. 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:08.680 Like to me, that looks ridicuous. 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:12.560 He could have been defending his reputation with the fact 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:14.840 that Titans are at the top of the penalty things 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:16.760 and he doesn't think that they're all fair and he 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:18.000 doesn't think they're chemist right. 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:21.640 You don't think Cruelsey should have spoken after dropping over 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:23.880 for feeder from the team and explaining it to the 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:25.600 fans and given the way that they're playing. 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:28.320 I just think that's I think that's ordinary and I 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:28.760 see that. 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:30.520 As a different issue though, there's no question in the 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:33.720 world you can't make excuses for the Titans performances this year, 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:35.320 but you can also defend your club. 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:35.520 Of course. 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:36.800 But he can do it all with the one press 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:40.880 conference later in the day gime. I know he does, 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:42.880 but I mean the NRL, I think that's rubbish. I 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:45.360 don't think the NRL should should let coaches, you know, 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:48.640 dictate when they talk in the week, do it before 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:48.920 the game. 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:50.680 Well, there was a time, there was a time to 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:54.240 where they used to make every player talk every every 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:54.840 three weeks. 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:57.200 Was that they all run their you know what I had. 0:15:57.160 --> 0:15:58.480 About it, because later in the week they're going to 0:15:58.520 --> 0:15:59.920 shove up two players. They're going to have to air 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:02.160 the questions a bit. Why David Ffieda isn't in the 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:04.560 team and not the coach Surgury. 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:06.840 So that's something about Dave that no one knows. Sure 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:07.520 they had a show. 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:11.080 Sorry, he had an ankle reconstruction and he's struggled with 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:12.000 pain in his ankle. 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:18.240 Has pressure? Is he under pressure? 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:20.480 Has to be under is his job on the line? 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:23.320 Do you think they'd be considering other options or has 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:24.160 he got some time here? 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:26.360 What do we think? How long has he got? The 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:29.200 way he's going at the moment is unders well. 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:32.000 They're definitely underachieving, aren't they. And they're and they're throwing 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:34.640 away good leads, which shows that they should be more 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:36.600 competitive over eighty minutes? 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:38.400 Is he under pressure? Who knows? 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:40.960 Like, if you don't win football games, you're under pressure. 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:41.720 That's how it works. 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:43.840