1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Hmm. 2 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 2: I was on two n RL three sixty rugby league 3 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 2: from every angle joining me in the great Gordon Tallis 4 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 2: bring the journals in, Paul Crawley and Andrew Webster. Interesting 5 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 2: round of footy on the weekend, that you enjoy the 6 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 2: weekend's footing. 7 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 3: I love sim bins. 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 4: I just think there should be more of them. Don't 9 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 4: need to wrap the games at all. Now, what's up? 10 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 4: You know the footy has been great. 11 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 3: We just need to get the officials out of the way. 12 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 5: Just be great if you could talk about the footy. 13 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 2: Hopefully after magic round we can now. The sin bin 14 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: saga continues tonight, with Titans coach Des Has hitting out 15 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 2: at the NRL denying his team he is the most 16 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 2: penalized in the competition. 17 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 6: Take a look the. 18 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 3: Most penalized team in competition for high tackles. 19 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 6: What do you make of that? 20 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's interesting stat and it doesn't mean it's correct 21 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 7: and consultation it might appeal at that. 22 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 6: I can assure you it's not correct. 23 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 7: So for Andrew to say that there has been a 24 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 7: correct down. 25 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 6: Us is wrong. 26 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 7: And it seems like all of a sudden that you 27 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 7: know we're going to move the gold posts, which is 28 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 7: not the not a clear response. Why are we moving 29 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 7: the gold posts all of a sudden, I don't think 30 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 7: coming out and changing all this now moving the goal post, 31 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 7: I think it's not being honest with the integrity of 32 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 7: the game. 33 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 3: Are you after four losses and a couple of them? 34 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 7: No, No, we take full will take full responsibility to 35 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 7: four losses. So don't say that I never said that. 36 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 2: You said that he's off at the NRL. 37 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: The NL are moving the goal posts. 38 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 6: Ah, And I don't. 39 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 8: Think they're moving the goal post. I think they're clamping down. 40 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 8: And last night when we saw the stats, I must 41 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 8: have been reading the wrong ones because the Titans were leading, 42 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 8: the comp went we shod here well. 43 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: Is the most head Eige tackles. He's saying they haven't, But. 44 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 6: Is he alluding to other teams get away with them? 45 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 5: That's the point. 46 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 9: That's the point when when you when you put those 47 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,839 Speaker 9: figures up last night, you can read them two ways. Yeah, 48 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 9: the Titans are on top, but as we all know, 49 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 9: we're seeing some that are being panalized that shouldn't be 50 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 9: penalties and some that are getting this from other teams. 51 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 9: That changes the landscape, and there's no question in the world, 52 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 9: no question in the world. In the last month, we've 53 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 9: seen a change, Gordon. You can't deny the goalposts have 54 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 9: changed in the last month. 55 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 4: It was the line that was sort of trotted out 56 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 4: by Andrew Abdo on his charm offensive yesterday, like he 57 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 4: spoke to everybody, and I remember talking to Andrew earlier 58 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 4: in the day and he made the point that, you know, 59 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 4: head high tackles are significantly more at this point of 60 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 4: the season than last year. 61 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 6: But you're right. 62 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 4: The counter argument to that is is that they're they're 63 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 4: calling more and more head high tackles when they actually aren't. 64 00:02:55,160 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 4: So I'm less concerned about them like calling it tackles 65 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 4: as the inconsistency of when they're calling them from game 66 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 4: to game, from. 67 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 3: From official to official. 68 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 5: That's I think that's. 69 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 4: The thing that we're all worried about heading into Magic Ground, 70 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 4: that we're just going to have the repeat of what 71 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 4: we saw in twenty one, and that's the last thing 72 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 4: the game needs. 73 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 8: We're actually sitting arguing over the force. Well, it wasn't hard, 74 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 8: but isn't it if you hit him in the head, 75 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 8: you hit him in the head. 76 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 9: It's the fairness of the Gordy you showed last night 77 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 9: the knee in the head, right, there's no excuse in 78 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 9: the world that the bunker missed that. Everyone that watches 79 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 9: that game sees that happen, and the injustice and the 80 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,119 Speaker 9: unfairness of it. And even though it was the same 81 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 9: team that got lost to Bloke A tackle later, is 82 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 9: that you look at the second that the tackler of Montoya, 83 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 9: it doesn't warrant a sinbin if Tupereneurs doesn't. 84 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 5: And there's no way in the world they miss that. 85 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 5: You can't miss that the Burden one in the same 86 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 5: game that the. 87 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 9: Burden one when they called up the game and showed 88 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 9: that and put him on report, yet they didn't send 89 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 9: him to the sinbin. How the hell, How the hell 90 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 9: is that not synbin if we're seeing all these other 91 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 9: ones that are synbind In the South Sydney game, there 92 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 9: was a crusher tackle, you know, that's head contact. Memozulas 93 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 9: was on the ground. I think it was trently Erro 94 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 9: did the tackle. He's sitting there, he's holding his neck. 95 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 5: No penalty. 96 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 9: It's the fairness of it all. There's no fairness at 97 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 9: the moment. 98 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 2: Fair to be fair, ABDA come on last night admitted 99 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 2: they got it wrong and said there will be immediate change. 100 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 2: So as much as yeah, I agree with you Cross, 101 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 2: you know they've been getting it wrong. You know, I 102 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 2: do question the no crackdown by the NRL, and I 103 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 2: think Desi's right there, there's been a crack like that 104 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 2: because the players haven't changed the way that they play 105 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 2: that much for the amount of penalties that have been given, 106 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: synbins and reports and you name it. So they're definitely 107 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 2: refereeing differently too. And I mentioned that to Andrew last night. 108 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 2: It's not just the bunker, you know that they are 109 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 2: giving more head EIE penalties that shouldn't be and there's 110 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 2: definitely more synbins that shouldn't be. 111 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 4: Full credit to Abdoor to be able to say that, 112 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 4: you know, to admit that they got it wrong. You 113 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 4: know what I'm interested in is what he said in 114 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 4: all his interviews yesterday, is how much reach the bunker 115 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 4: is going to have during Magic Round. Is it going 116 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 4: to go back and pull up, you know, indiscretions from 117 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 4: earlier in the in the set. That's going to be 118 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 4: the interesting thing because he seems to think that that threshold, 119 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 4: as he was calling it, needs to be needs to 120 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 4: be lifted, and that's going to be interesting to see 121 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 4: in Magic Round, just where that thresholds at. 122 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 8: The referees are always going to push the envelope. I 123 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 8: think we're missing the point. If they changed the technique 124 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 8: of all the players and they get hit in the 125 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 8: head less, there's going to be less Papa. 126 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 2: The last couple of nights off because you think the 127 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 2: players are going to responsible now. 128 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 6: I think tackling techniques really pull that. 129 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 8: Bolly comes in and there's Hazeltin runs, He's got his 130 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 8: rib cage open, and he stands up and hits him 131 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 8: in there. 132 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 5: That's the one offense. Gordon. 133 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 9: You can't pin this back on the coaches and the 134 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 9: players and tackling technique. 135 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 6: I'll tell you what. Okay, So where they learn? A 136 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 6: year ago? 137 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 9: A year ago, hang on a second last June I 138 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 9: wrote a story Bennett. 139 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 5: There was so much frustration in the game. 140 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 9: Bennett couldn't bite his tongue anymore, bring me up, and 141 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 9: he wanted to do a story about it because he 142 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 9: was so fed up and everyone in the game was 143 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 9: so fed up. He came up with some really great 144 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 9: ideas right at the end of the season. They sat 145 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 9: weighing down, they said, Ivan Cleary and Ricky Stewart, and they. 146 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 5: Came up with a plan. Well guess what. 147 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 9: They didn't bring the plan into play, and we're a 148 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 9: year down the track and it hasn't got better, mate, 149 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 9: it has got worse. They came up with a plan 150 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 9: that perhaps could have fixed the sinbin problem that we 151 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 9: have at the moment while still punishing high tackles. 152 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 5: They ignored it. 153 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 9: Andrew Abdo said last night, we might look at it 154 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 9: at the end of the year. They looked at the 155 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 9: end of last year, and they trialed it in a trial. 156 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 9: They spoke about putting regular people in the bunker, right 157 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 9: for regular people that could be there every week to 158 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 9: try and get some consistency. 159 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 5: Never happened. Never happened, Never happened. 160 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 9: To Mate, reference a game because this could have been 161 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 9: sorted out, or at least we would be on the 162 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 9: right track. 163 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 5: But to me and to many many. 164 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 8: Fans out there, mate, backwards, I used to used to 165 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 8: get penalized if you gave way a penalty. It was taboo. 166 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 8: Now I reckon your coach to give away penalties. That's 167 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 8: why six to go to coming. They don't care how 168 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 8: many penalties. 169 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 9: Believe is coached injured. I would back there, but I 170 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 9: would suggest mate on the try line. Yeah, their coach 171 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 9: to give away penalties and slow down the game and 172 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 9: that sort of stuff. 173 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 5: They probably don't care. But I wouldn't say I like 174 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 5: the only I would like. 175 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 8: I would like every week to challenge every coach to 176 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 8: come down the park and run. 177 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 6: And I hit him in the. 178 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 9: Head the only delivery active. 179 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 8: And I hit him at I said, man, I'm sorry, 180 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 8: I just slipped you know, MAT's up and just see 181 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 8: whether they like it. 182 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 6: And I don't think that they would. 183 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 8: I didn't like it when I'm playing and now you 184 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 8: see them all getting hit in the head and they 185 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 8: just run, bend your back I. 186 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 4: Speak to I don't A lot of coaches were on 187 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 4: the point your I think it's all a lot of 188 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 4: factors to be to the game, the surface, the interpret 189 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 4: But but I agree with you, Gordy, because I've been 190 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 4: writing this for a few years, because you talk to 191 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 4: coaches about it. Did they think that you know, the 192 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 4: two players, the two defenders coming in that up high. 193 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 4: That's a big part of it. So let me ask 194 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 4: you this, Then, what do you say to those, and 195 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 4: the great Mic Cronan has been a propeller this for 196 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 4: a long time. Two in the tackle, I don't mind it. 197 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 4: But I don't know why we don't even try that. 198 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 4: Why we don't even. 199 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 8: Consider that because the athletes got two seconds because the 200 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 8: athletes got too good, got too big, too big and too. 201 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 6: That would take it. 202 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: That would take a while to for players to get 203 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 2: you still, So that's not an off season thing. 204 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: That that's that's a whole. 205 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 9: Fifteen the interchange and everything else comes having an idea. 206 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 5: It's good enough for me. 207 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 6: Krona haven't appear on the show because there's one on 208 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 6: one right. 209 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 8: And then in my era, the player the balls got 210 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 8: so quick, so I had to be two in a tackle, 211 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 8: and now they play the balls didn't slow down, so 212 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 8: now there's three just to slow it down. 213 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 6: So you don't have as many rocking friends either. And 214 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 6: the leg tackle wasn't getting rewarded. 215 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 3: Get rid of the sixth to go, which is so 216 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 3: subjective anyway, the tackle. 217 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 2: It's not just fans that are blowing up though the 218 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 2: immoral Joey he was feelthy, wasn't he? 219 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 6: And that it was well reported and on TV and 220 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 6: all that. 221 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, he put the headset down here. 222 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 4: I wrote that in The Australian yesterday he with twenty 223 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 4: look at that look at that head Jesus. 224 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, and I reckon, I'm bigger than current and he 225 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 6: hits him in the head. 226 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 3: So that was a send off, wasn't it. 227 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:31,559 Speaker 1: I thought? 228 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 4: But this, this story in terms of Joey, like I mean, 229 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 4: it just shows you know, people give Joey, have different 230 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 4: opinions on Joe Jo love the fact that he's so 231 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,599 Speaker 4: unfielded and it's such a fan of the game that 232 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 4: he could not call the last twenty three minutes of 233 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 4: that match for Channel nine. He just put his put 234 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 4: his his microphone down after the bole a well, when 235 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 4: it got to Golden Point they trying to engage, he said, 236 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 4: I hope there's no head highs and then said nothing 237 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 4: for the rest of the game. To me, that just 238 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 4: sums up the frustration, particularly and former players about what's 239 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 4: going on in the game. 240 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 9: It's not just former players though, it's the fans too. 241 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 9: You look, you look at any online story that that 242 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 9: talks about the crackdown all the sin bins at the moment, 243 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 9: and the majority of fans feel so frustrated Gordy and 244 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 9: this is what the game can't ignore because people love 245 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 9: rugby league. Well you know what your friends will say, 246 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 9: oh wait, watch the footing next week. They're always back 247 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 9: on watching the footy because they love rugby league. 248 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 6: But they still care. 249 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 3: That was the dumbest one out of the weekend. 250 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 4: You know, it just sort of put an exclamation point 251 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 4: on the weekend. 252 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 6: Really, that's a creature of habit. Yeah, because that's what. 253 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 3: It's not even a penalty though, is it. 254 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 1: It's if it's a penalty, it's only just why does 255 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: he hit him in the head. 256 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 5: To wrap up the ball? 257 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 9: And you're right, it's look he got him high and 258 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 9: he has got his ribs cage there that he But 259 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 9: the fact. 260 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 5: That it's not a sin being Gordy, it has never 261 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 5: been a sin. 262 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 6: Bin get ten of those a game. As I said, 263 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 6: just go down bunk, just get someone. Just keep on 264 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 6: it in your hand. 265 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: Do it now. 266 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 6: It's annoying. 267 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 2: You're pretty outspoken about Latrell Mitchell. It's him been in 268 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 2: now one week suspension. You don't believe he should have been. 269 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 5: I'll tell you what I don't believe. 270 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 9: I don't believe it's fair that Latrell gets one week 271 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 9: for that and he gets sin binned. And Isaiah Yo 272 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 9: hits Tom Travoyevitch with a swinging arm and again I'll 273 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 9: call him both Rugby League accidents in a way. 274 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 5: But Yo hits him and gets nothing, Mane. 275 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 9: This is it all goes back to the fairness, and 276 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 9: in fairness to Latrell. Litrell's a bloke that is so 277 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 9: polarizing in our game, and so many people love him 278 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 9: and others don't like him. 279 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 5: But when that tackle happened, there's an immediate blow up. 280 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 5: Oh he should have been sent off. But when you 281 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 5: actually look at the tackle and Faye Logo. 282 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 9: Comes sliding in different circumstances and Latrell hits him right, 283 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 9: Falgo actually knocks himself out when. 284 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 5: When his head hits the ground. 285 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: This was careless at all. 286 00:11:58,320 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's careless. 287 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 9: But what I'm saying is it's the unfairness because then 288 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 9: you get Yo that gets understand that, and that's the problem. 289 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 5: With the game at the moment. 290 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: Thought for Latrell's I'd take the week and run. 291 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 9: If that's how I saw it, I saw it differently 292 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 9: because I reckon we've seen accidents in the game forever, 293 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 9: and you'll never get it out of the game unless 294 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 9: you's unless you put on os tag or you put 295 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,599 Speaker 9: on touch footy, because it's a collision sport and unfortunately 296 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 9: it's going to happen. 297 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 5: He's sliding on the wet ground there and he and 298 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 5: he's and he's engaged. 299 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 6: Latrell and he was going to pass the ball. 300 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 8: So quick on what he's going to do and the 301 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 8: defenders moving forward when standing there in the defensive. 302 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 4: I'm happy if he stays on the field and let 303 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 4: the matter review handle it, you know what I mean. 304 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 4: I just think they're so trigger happy with with sending 305 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 4: boats to the bin. But then again, the bunker and 306 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 4: the referees are under instructions from those above them. 307 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: The direction is going to come. What about magic around 308 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: this weekend? What's a pass mark? 309 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 6: Again? 310 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 2: Andrew Abdo was on sitting right there where you are, 311 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 2: Cruls and he said, it's not going to be the same. 312 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: They're going to pull back on the bunker. They're not 313 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: going to interrupt the game. 314 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 2: The referees probably won't be as harsh with their judgment 315 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 2: of high tackles. 316 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 1: What's a past mark? 317 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 5: Common sense? 318 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 9: Common sense is a pass mark? Like you can't put 319 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 9: a number on what's right and what's wrong. But we 320 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 9: speak about it all the time. The majority of people 321 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 9: will sit down and they will agree what constitutes as 322 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,719 Speaker 9: send off, what constitutes has sin bin, and what's a 323 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 9: penalty and what you let go. 324 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 5: We just want to see common sense. 325 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 2: Okay, what are we expecting then, more more so than 326 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,719 Speaker 2: a pass mark? Do we think that it's going to 327 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 2: be a lot different this weekend from the conversation we 328 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 2: had with the NLCO. 329 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be significantly different. 330 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 4: Oh, I think so too, But I wouldn't even want 331 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 4: to try and forecast what it's going to look like. 332 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 4: Like I mean, honestly, it's so all over the place 333 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 4: at the moment, like I've got no I actually am 334 00:13:58,800 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 4: worried about how it's. 335 00:13:59,600 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 6: Going to go. 336 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 4: We're not talking about magic round. If we're talking about 337 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 4: Sinbin's on Monday morning, that's a failure for. 338 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 6: The Can we live with if the referee misses it? 339 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 9: Yes, for mate, that's what the mat We're always going 340 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 9: to debate the game, mate, We're always going to debate 341 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 9: the game. But they missed the Burton one the other day, right, 342 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 9: I wasn't upset that they missed the Burton one. I 343 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 9: was upset when they saw the Burton one they didn't 344 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 9: Sinbinni all right. 345 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 2: Circling back to des at the top of the show, 346 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 2: we're going back there, and the reporter, which he caught 347 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 2: my eye, am i ear said are you deflecting from 348 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 2: the last four losses? 349 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 4: Yes, Daz and Wayne Bennett are the masters of using 350 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 4: the press to distract attention from their team. I've got 351 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 4: no doubt that that's what des has done. I also 352 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 4: don't understand why he's done his press conference this morning 353 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 4: or earlier today and not after dropping David Tafita. I 354 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 4: think that's prettyordinary from Deaz. I know Desert's mind games, 355 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 4: and I love deserts so much anyone. 356 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: He's done the press conference before, it looks. 357 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 6: Like to me, that looks ridicuous. 358 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 9: He could have been defending his reputation with the fact 359 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 9: that Titans are at the top of the penalty things 360 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 9: and he doesn't think that they're all fair and he 361 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 9: doesn't think they're chemist right. 362 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 4: You don't think Cruelsey should have spoken after dropping over 363 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 4: for feeder from the team and explaining it to the 364 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 4: fans and given the way that they're playing. 365 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 3: I just think that's I think that's ordinary and I 366 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 3: see that. 367 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 9: As a different issue though, there's no question in the 368 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 9: world you can't make excuses for the Titans performances this year, 369 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 9: but you can also defend your club. 370 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 3: Of course. 371 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 4: But he can do it all with the one press 372 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 4: conference later in the day gime. I know he does, 373 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 4: but I mean the NRL, I think that's rubbish. I 374 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 4: don't think the NRL should should let coaches, you know, 375 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 4: dictate when they talk in the week, do it before 376 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 4: the game. 377 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 9: Well, there was a time, there was a time to 378 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 9: where they used to make every player talk every every 379 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 9: three weeks. 380 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 5: Was that they all run their you know what I had. 381 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 4: About it, because later in the week they're going to 382 00:15:58,520 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 4: shove up two players. They're going to have to air 383 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 4: the questions a bit. Why David Ffieda isn't in the 384 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 4: team and not the coach Surgury. 385 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 6: So that's something about Dave that no one knows. Sure 386 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 6: they had a show. 387 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 8: Sorry, he had an ankle reconstruction and he's struggled with 388 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 8: pain in his ankle. 389 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: Has pressure? Is he under pressure? 390 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 5: Has to be under is his job on the line? 391 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 2: Do you think they'd be considering other options or has 392 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 2: he got some time here? 393 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: What do we think? How long has he got? The 394 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: way he's going at the moment is unders well. 395 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 9: They're definitely underachieving, aren't they. And they're and they're throwing 396 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 9: away good leads, which shows that they should be more 397 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 9: competitive over eighty minutes? 398 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 5: Is he under pressure? Who knows? 399 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 9: Like, if you don't win football games, you're under pressure. 400 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 9: That's how it works. 401 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 4: Surely they've got to be you guys, tell me they've 402 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 4: got to be doing better than the Tamos. 403 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, I thought I thought would be doing better, especially 404 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 8: this year. This is does his second year. One thing 405 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 8: I know about the organization that they're very loyal. You 406 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 8: haven't heard anything out there? No, I haven't heard anything, 407 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 8: but I don't go there either. The last game I 408 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 8: was there was a couple of weeks ago. 409 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 2: Probably not going to tell you anyway, because you sitting here, 410 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 2: Can you please tell them? 411 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 6: I need to break a story? 412 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 7: All right? 413 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 2: Let's take a look at the ins and out's around 414 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 2: nine thanks to sports Bett, and here they are a 415 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 2: couple of big ones this week is the teams are 416 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 2: on out today white and at five eight Dodd on 417 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 2: the extended bench, Ily has dropped for the Dragons, King 418 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 2: Tommy are named at half or five eight, whichever one. 419 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,479 Speaker 2: David Fafeeda demoted to the reserves list for the Titans, 420 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 2: Garner a place in McClean at center for the Panthers, 421 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 2: and Reynolds chosen for the Broncos despite that shoult Or injury. 422 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 2: Now we'll get to the Dragons, but quickly, let's talk 423 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 2: about Lewis Dodd and him not getting a run this week. 424 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 6: What's our take on this. 425 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 5: It's a massive story, really, isn't it. 426 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 9: Like you can't you can't hide from the fact he's 427 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 9: on seven hundred thousand dollars a year. 428 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 5: He's chilling up seven hundred thousand dollars a year. They're 429 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 5: short of halves. 430 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 9: They haven't got Cody, they haven't got Humphreys at the moment, 431 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 9: and he's moved Jack Whiton. 432 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: Why won't they pick Obviously he's not playing well enough, 433 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: well enough, He hasn't played that much well. 434 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 5: He's obviously way in New South Wales. 435 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 6: Doesn't think that he's first grade ready or he's good 436 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 6: enough to play. 437 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 9: He's picked Jack White and at five eight this week 438 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 9: he's moved him from centers. 439 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 5: They're already short Latrell. It suggests to me. 440 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 1: That he's no Cody, no Latrell. 441 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, it is what it is, isn't it. They 442 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 5: haven't picked him. You can't make excuses for it. 443 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 4: I remember we talked about this in Vegas on the 444 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 4: on the show when we were there for the start 445 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 4: of the season. 446 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 3: It was always going to be a bubbling issue. It 447 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 3: just seems to be