Speaker 1: It's show and Tell time. Time to show when tell
Speaker 1: us soul that's going on in your world. Even though
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Speaker 2: I just had this compulsion just surprise you and rip
Speaker 2: it tit out, And then I thought, oh, no, the
Speaker 2: recording this is going.
Speaker 1: To be back up somewhere. We know that if we
Speaker 1: then put it on Instagram, we'll get more likes.
Speaker 2: Oh look, mate, I don't know about that. They're not
Speaker 2: in great shape anymore. Maybe once upon a time, love it. Okay,
Speaker 2: start off with your fact mail. This is how it's
Speaker 2: Malamonte everyone, And each episode, Malk starts off with a
Speaker 2: random fact, usually one that's just sitting on a shelf
Speaker 2: in her brain that will never get used otherwise.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: Well, do you know how Michael Jackson back in the
Speaker 2: eighties nineteen eighty four to be more exact act, was
Speaker 2: burnt during the recording of a Pepsi commercial? Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: which is full on. I was watching the footage the
Speaker 2: other day. I was like, oh, that was nasty. They reckon.
Speaker 2: That's what kicked off the addiction to pain meds and stuff.
Speaker 1: It would be burnt would be so unbelief. You just
Speaker 1: think of when you burn your finger, how excruciating it is. Also,
Speaker 1: you would not want to be the person who was
Speaker 1: responsible for whatever happened there, the pyrotechnics and burning Michael Jackson.
Speaker 2: I don't like the word pyrotechnics. That makes me scared.
Speaker 2: I don't like any of that stuff. I'm like, that's
Speaker 2: just messing with shit anyway, Totally, this is my fact.
Speaker 2: The day Michael Jackson's hair caught fire filming the Pepsi
Speaker 2: commercial in nineteen eighty four was the day that marked
Speaker 2: the exact halfway point of his life. So he had
Speaker 2: lived for nine two hundred and eighty one days and
Speaker 2: died nine two two hundred and eighty one days later. Okay,
Speaker 2: so that that moment in time was the exact midway
Speaker 2: point of his life. I think that's fascinating.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't.
Speaker 2: How do you not think that's fascinating?
Speaker 3: I mean, or are you saying because he nearly escaped
Speaker 3: death then so that's he could have died then, so
Speaker 3: then living the exact same amount of days later.
Speaker 1: I mean, Also, who the fuck worked about out that is? Look,
Speaker 1: I don't know, random, but no, I just think that's
Speaker 1: a bit of a coincidence, not a fantastic fact. But
Speaker 1: I'm glad you shared it, but I'm not impressed.
Speaker 2: Oh all right, Well, how about back in the olden days,
Speaker 2: dentures were made from the teeth of dead soldiers. Do
Speaker 2: you like that much? What?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Give you that? I'll give you Michael Jackson one was
Speaker 2: fucking amazing, Like, what a massive event to happen in
Speaker 2: that one point of your life. Yeah, and that kicked
Speaker 2: off his death. Yeah, true, that's true.
Speaker 1: All right, if you think it's good, there'll be at
Speaker 1: least one other person listening that thinks it's good. But
Speaker 1: speaking of like death stuff. The other day, we're out
Speaker 1: on the trampoline. I'm not I can't jump on the
Speaker 1: trampoline or I'll wet my pants. But Odie's laying on
Speaker 1: the trampoline. It's starting to get dark, and he's like,
Speaker 1: oh the stars, Nana. So Odie never met my mom.
Speaker 1: I felt pregnant after a year after my mom passed.
Speaker 1: So ODI's four. Trying to explain to a four year
Speaker 1: old about death is the biggest head fuck of all time.
Speaker 1: Oh the clarification, Oh, so is there? And he's like,
Speaker 1: Nana is Nana up there? And I say, yeah, buddy,
Speaker 1: Nana's in the stars, and he's like, she lives there,
Speaker 1: and I said, well, she doesn't really live anywhere anymore.
Speaker 1: When you die, we look at the stars and we
Speaker 1: think about people, but they're not really there anymore. This
Speaker 1: went on mal for twenty minutes of me trying to
Speaker 1: explain it. It's a very difficult concept to explain death
Speaker 1: full stop, because where the fuck do we go what happens?
Speaker 1: You just put it wherever your mind feels like.
Speaker 2: It's okay, yeah, but I do get the added complication
Speaker 2: of the stars is an abstract sort of thing, like
Speaker 2: he needs concrete. Hang on a second, what do you mean? Like, yes,
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: It's too abstract for a yeah, but death is a
Speaker 1: bit abstract. I'm like, well, she's not in I don't
Speaker 1: believe in heaven and hell, so I'm not like she's
Speaker 1: in heaven, but what's heaven?
Speaker 3: To him?
Speaker 1: Like none of it makes sense anyway. I thought he
Speaker 1: finally got it. So twenty minutes of explaining to him Nana,
Speaker 1: we can't say it because he's like, can we visit Nana?
Speaker 1: I said, we can't visit Nana. When somebody passes, you
Speaker 1: can't see them anymore. We're alive and we're living and
Speaker 1: we can see each other, and then we do something
Speaker 1: called die and we can't see them anymore. He's like
Speaker 1: ever again. I'm like ever again anyway, So I'm like, great,
Speaker 1: the little guy finally has got it. So I thought
Speaker 1: I'm gonna record him, just to clarify and make sure
Speaker 1: that there's a full stop to this death chat. And
Speaker 1: this is what happened.
Speaker 4: Where do you think Nana is? And yeah, because Nana died?
Speaker 4: What does dyed mean?
Speaker 1: He die?
Speaker 4: Die?
Speaker 3: Die?
Speaker 4: What does it mean when you die? I don't mean
Speaker 4: you can't see them anymore? Doesn't it'll kill two?
Speaker 1: So that's where we got I don't know after all.
Speaker 2: Look at least he was honest. Also, is that not
Speaker 2: the cutest voice of all time?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Mate, his little voice, it's husky. The other day we
Speaker 1: were out and a man walked past me said, that's
Speaker 1: the best voice I've ever heard. It's the little husk
Speaker 1: to it. That's just so gorgeous.
Speaker 2: Did Allo have a bit of a husky voice too?
Speaker 1: I think he might have really did.
Speaker 3: Mild Of course, you've forgot I've forgotten everything about them everything,
Speaker 3: and I never savored them as I am savoring him.
Speaker 3: It's so true that when you know it to your last,
Speaker 3: like every every night, I just soak him up, and
Speaker 3: he's got a beauty spot and on the top of
Speaker 3: his lip that I just can't get enough of. And
Speaker 3: I just look at him and I get him to
Speaker 3: stare me in the eyes, and I just really embrace
Speaker 3: and soak him in, which I never did with the
Speaker 3: other two.
Speaker 2: That's something that you really miss when you're not. Like
Speaker 2: when I had my second child, probably for a couple
Speaker 2: of years, I wasn't sure if I was going to
Speaker 2: have a yes, And I feel like, uh, because I
Speaker 2: wasn't solid in that. I didn't you know, maybe I
Speaker 2: wasn't in it as much as I should have been.
Speaker 1: Yep, I know exactly what you mean, yes, because you
Speaker 1: like you're like, oh, I'll get to go through it again,
Speaker 1: so you do. There's something so different about if you
Speaker 1: know it. I knew AlOH wasn't my last, so I'm like,
Speaker 1: I have time. I can pay half attention to him.
Speaker 1: I pay full attention to the last one. I've fucking
Speaker 1: middle children.
Speaker 2: I've got a real, got a real thing with that
Speaker 2: take it personally. Can I just say also on the
Speaker 2: death thing, I do think, and this is gonna sound
Speaker 2: like I don't want to sound judgmental when people may disagree,
Speaker 2: but I do think with little kids, even if it's
Speaker 2: not your personal belief, I do think the concept of
Speaker 2: heaven makes death a little bit less scary for them
Speaker 2: because once they get to a certain age, they're gonna know, okay,
Speaker 2: they make their own decision is heaven and they start
Speaker 2: questioning things. But when they're Odie's age, it's like God
Speaker 2: forbid something happened to you or Sam, and you're like,
Speaker 2: I don't believe in heaven. You just die and then
Speaker 2: you're gone and whatever, Like he has nothing for him
Speaker 2: to hold on to, like a concept. It's almost like
Speaker 2: you know, with kids, if you've got kids in the car,
Speaker 2: turn this off warning. It's like the concept of Santa. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's just a thing that gives them something something, yes,
Speaker 2: and then they get older and they know it's you know, yes.
Speaker 1: But also I think maybe a four year old's too
Speaker 1: young to learn about death. But I guess if it
Speaker 1: happened to somebody that he knew, I would have to
Speaker 1: explain it to him. But even heaven, like he would
Speaker 1: not understand why we couldn't just go to heaven and
Speaker 1: visit the person, Like to him, why wouldn't we just
Speaker 1: visit them, Like it's hard to get in your head
Speaker 1: or they're gone. But I hear what you mean, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: having a place like heaven where everyone's dead is just
Speaker 1: roaming around much more enjoyable and grasp worthy for a child.
Speaker 2: And so nice that you like, we're the same. My
Speaker 2: dad didn't see any of our kids, but they all
Speaker 2: know who he is. We talk about him all the time,
Speaker 2: Like I think you have to, like that is the
Speaker 2: nicest tribute you can give somebody, is to keep them
Speaker 2: alive with the people that never even met them totally.
Speaker 1: Like they say, you die twice, don't they like you
Speaker 1: when you die? And then when people stop talking about you,
Speaker 1: which is really you do like that happened so much,
Speaker 1: Like I never talk about my great grandparents because I
Speaker 1: didn't meet them, so I don't really know anything about them.
Speaker 1: And there's anyone else who like my uncle would probably
Speaker 1: still talk about them. But once he's gone, like that's it,
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, gone, you just go, you completely go.
Speaker 1: So you were saying that you listen to the Oprah
Speaker 1: episode though, when they were talking about near death experiences.
Speaker 1: I haven't listened to it. I never listened to Oprah's podcast.
Speaker 1: Is it Soul Sundays or something like that.
Speaker 2: No, she's got another one. It's I think it's just
Speaker 2: called the Oprah Winfrey Podcast, right, Okay, creative, yeah, I know,
Speaker 2: but what a brand. Yeah, but it was with a
Speaker 2: doctor who has done all this research into near death experiences.
Speaker 2: I would say that if you're someone who has lost
Speaker 2: someone you love, there might be something in it that
Speaker 2: you find comforting. But he talked about how he was
Speaker 2: a man of science. Right, he's a doctor. This all
Speaker 2: started because there was a patient that came in that
Speaker 2: had overdosed and she was in a coma and they
Speaker 2: had her on life support. You know, obviously she's not awake,
Speaker 2: her eyes aren't open, she's not there saying like the
Speaker 2: brain activity was very low. So he had gone out
Speaker 2: into the corridor and gone like to the end of
Speaker 2: the corridor to speak to this patient's roommate about her condition. Anyway,
Speaker 2: the girl in the coma wakes up and she starts
Speaker 2: talking to the doctor and telling him that she saw
Speaker 2: him talking to her roommate in the corridor. She replayed
Speaker 2: the entire conversation down to what he was wearing, down
Speaker 2: to the fact that he had a stain on his tie. Now,
Speaker 2: there's a couple of things. Number one is that he said,
Speaker 2: when I was in the room with her, her eyes
Speaker 2: are closed. She can't see anything, he said. But number two,
Speaker 2: I had my coat, like the white coat or whatever on.
Speaker 2: It was buttoned up. When I went out into the
Speaker 2: corridor to speak to the friend. He said, it was hot,
Speaker 2: I unbuttoned it. She wouldn't have even seen my tie.
Speaker 2: Even if she had for a split second opened her
Speaker 2: eyes in the room where he was, she wouldn't have
Speaker 2: even seen his tie because it was under the coat.
Speaker 2: But when he'd gone out into the corridor, he said,
Speaker 2: he took the coat off, and that's when the tie
Speaker 2: was visible. So he started just researching and speaking to
Speaker 2: all these medical professionals who had reported patients who had
Speaker 2: the same thing. But how there's this thing that they
Speaker 2: were talking about, because there's commonalities with all of these experiences.
Speaker 2: So obviously people who've died and come back right because
Speaker 2: it wasn't their time or whatever. But one of the
Speaker 2: things they talked about is a life review. So Oprah
Speaker 2: threw back to a clip that she'd done on her
Speaker 2: show of near death experiences, and one of them was
Speaker 2: a man who was a mechanical or something and a
Speaker 2: car had fallen on him and he had like technically
Speaker 2: died but come back. But he said when he was dead,
Speaker 2: it was like they have this thing called a life
Speaker 2: review where your life plays out in front of you. No,
Speaker 2: no hold on, but this is the thing, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: this is why I don't believe in hell anymore. I
Speaker 2: think this is the hell part. He was quite abusive
Speaker 2: to his wife. He said that in this life review,
Speaker 2: he said, not only did I see what I did
Speaker 2: to my wife, he said I felt what it was
Speaker 2: like to be her.
Speaker 1: Oh wow.
Speaker 2: If that is not the most perfect justice, oh, he said,
Speaker 2: it was I was her and I was feeling how
Speaker 2: she felt the way I was treating her.
Speaker 1: Oh my, oh gosh.
Speaker 2: He came back to life and like completely changed. She
Speaker 2: stayed with him and all this stuff. But it's like
Speaker 2: that feeling of you do good, you'll feel good. You
Speaker 2: do bad, you'll feel bad, You'll But there was also
Speaker 2: another woman who was talking about her life of you,
Speaker 2: and she was talking about how her mum had been
Speaker 2: quite abusive to her when she was young, and she said,
Speaker 2: you know, it was like feeling the feeling also from
Speaker 2: her mum's perspective when she was beating her and her
Speaker 2: mum's So it's like there is this overwhelming people talk
Speaker 2: about it being judgment, but it's also compassion. Like it's
Speaker 2: almost like everything you see everything from all sides and
Speaker 2: you feel it from all sides.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like every corner of it is explained to you,
Speaker 1: and maybe that kind of puts it all. You can
Speaker 1: leave with it all being okay because you can go, oh,
Speaker 1: that's why that person treated me like that. It wasn't
Speaker 1: because they hated me. It's because they were in a
Speaker 1: really bad place or something like. It sounds like a
Speaker 1: psilocybin trip. Like it sounds like that time I did
Speaker 1: psilocybin and I felt every single emotion for every single
Speaker 1: woman in the whole wide world. That's what it sounds like,
Speaker 1: that you just hit with every single emotion. I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's like, I don't I wonder for us what we
Speaker 1: would feel because we're not abusive. I mean, I really
Speaker 1: yell at my kids though, I would be mortified to
Speaker 1: know how sometimes they feel with me just yelling at them.
Speaker 1: I wonder if that will be replayed back to me
Speaker 1: or yeah, I wonder I wonder if like how our
Speaker 1: dads felt in the war would be replayed back to us.
Speaker 1: That's one thing that sort of played on my mind too,
Speaker 1: that I felt. I feel this sort of like when
Speaker 1: I hear things like that, because then there's obviously people
Speaker 1: talking about seeing people they loved that have passed before them.
Speaker 1: Also this feeling that I've always had of when you die,
Speaker 1: and when I think of my dad, I think about
Speaker 1: the like the heartbreak of them when they go, feeling
Speaker 1: like they don't want to leave their families or whatever.
Speaker 1: But across the board, everyone was like we didn't even
Speaker 1: want to come back, like it was. But the feeling,
Speaker 1: the beauty, it's like, oh she had you know. Jeremy
Speaker 1: Renner he played Hawkeye in the Marvel movies. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: got over by the snow machine.
Speaker 2: And she interviewed him and he said, I can't explain
Speaker 2: it any other way than he said, It's like I
Speaker 2: am That's the only way I can explain it. He said,
Speaker 2: it's like you are everything and you're nothing, but all
Speaker 2: you feel is the concept that all you take with
Speaker 2: you is love, the love that you had here, and
Speaker 2: that there was no desire to come back because the
Speaker 2: feeling was so beautiful. He felt like this feeling of
Speaker 2: being loved and protected. Now that could be for some people. God,
Speaker 2: it could be the universe, whatever you want to call it,
Speaker 2: but there's something higher.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's so. It gave me goosebumps. Goosebumps, and it's
Speaker 1: so comforting because I've told you what my mum said
Speaker 1: before she dies, I just don't want to miss out
Speaker 1: on anything, you know, because she just loved my boys
Speaker 1: so much that she didn't want to miss out on
Speaker 1: being a nana. Where to think that because she lived
Speaker 1: a life where she loved so fiercely and was loved
Speaker 1: so fiercely that hopefully she went into wherever with that
Speaker 1: overwhelming feeling of love and also not wanting to come back,
Speaker 1: like being completely at peace and maybe seeing my grandparents
Speaker 1: Like you're always just romanticize it a bit to make
Speaker 1: it sit okay with you. But the fact that these
Speaker 1: people have been there and are saying this is pretty comforting.
Speaker 2: And thousands of documented cases. Wow, there's too many links.
Speaker 2: There's too many common things that people feel during that time,
Speaker 2: and like stuff that you can't explain, like someone who's
Speaker 2: flatlined on a fucking table and telling the surgeon what
Speaker 2: they said, Yeah, how can you be? You can't explain it?
Speaker 2: And I think that's why people grapple with it, because
Speaker 2: you know, it's like I guess that thought of God.
Speaker 2: It's like faith is having faith and not having any
Speaker 2: science to back it up, not havinges you just believe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like.
Speaker 2: The same thing. I think for most of us, we
Speaker 2: hear it and we're like, but how do you really
Speaker 2: know totally?
Speaker 1: And it is because there's like so many of us
Speaker 1: need science to go, Okay, well that's factual, but there's
Speaker 1: so much that can't be explained with science. And I
Speaker 1: believe things like that. You know, like just the other day,
Speaker 1: back said I believe in ghosts. He called them, and
Speaker 1: he watched some show and the conjuring he was watching.
Speaker 1: Oh I know, I watched the just the trailer and
Speaker 1: I was like, you watch that.
Speaker 2: But he didn't love story. Yeah, I love that stuff too.
Speaker 1: Oh not enough.
Speaker 2: I think I might have said before I was addicted
Speaker 2: to that shit when I was young, But that's also
Speaker 2: dopamine seeking behavior. Yes, I chant alone on dopamine.
Speaker 1: That's what I think with him.
Speaker 3: I'm like, you're either a psychopath or you're something's lacking
Speaker 3: in you, because it's very odd for a thirteen year
Speaker 3: old to want to be fucking terrified NonStop. Like any
Speaker 3: movie he watches will be a bit terrifying. Yeah, because
Speaker 3: it's I guess the thrill. It's the thrill of the fear.
Speaker 1: Yes, totally, it would totally be a dopamine hit. But
Speaker 1: getting back to like ghosts and stuff, you know, there's
Speaker 1: too much of that as well, which is not explained
Speaker 1: by science, of people coming through other people to communicate,
Speaker 1: you know, and if it's too blase a, I don't
Speaker 1: believe it. But when they're very specific, that's when it's
Speaker 1: like there's just no way, like there's no way that
Speaker 1: person could know, So there has to be something there
Speaker 1: that person has to be speaking to them. It's like
Speaker 1: when the police force use mediums to try and help
Speaker 1: solve unsolved cases.
Speaker 2: And you would think, oh my god, like as if
Speaker 2: they would, but the fact that they do says a
Speaker 2: lot totally. And I also think that we're the ones
Speaker 2: that are missing out because we feel like, like, for example,
Speaker 2: you say, oh, your mom, you know, she missed out
Speaker 2: on seeing Odie and stuff. But I think that maybe
Speaker 2: she's seen more than she would have if she was here.
Speaker 2: We miss out because we don't get to interact with Yes,
Speaker 2: but she's seeing heaps more than she would have before.
Speaker 2: And I also say to my mum, because my mum
Speaker 2: often says that, you know, like she gets lonely, but
Speaker 2: she says sometimes she feels this compulsion to talk today,
Speaker 2: so she'll do it. And I said to her, to me,
Speaker 2: that's just a sign. When you have that feeling, that's
Speaker 2: him letting you know he's there, you know, so beautiful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, occasionally I get that compulsion, not often, but sometimes Oh,
Speaker 1: just out loud, I've got I really miss your mum,
Speaker 1: or today's been a really good day, mum. Like it'll
Speaker 1: usually just be a sentence, but it's like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: have the compulsion to share with her, and you're just
Speaker 1: saying it out loud for some reason, you feel like
Speaker 1: it's getting to them. Yes, Ye, anyway, interesting one. Hey,
Speaker 1: let us know if you know anyone who's had a
Speaker 1: near death experience, if you possibly have, like what are
Speaker 1: you leave from this? We would love to hear from you.
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