WEBVTT - Stairway To Heaven

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<v Speaker 1>It's show and Tell time. Time to show when tell

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<v Speaker 1>us soul that's going on in your world. Even though

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<v Speaker 1>we can't hear you, you can hear us.

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<v Speaker 2>I just had this compulsion just surprise you and rip

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<v Speaker 2>it tit out, And then I thought, oh, no, the

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<v Speaker 2>recording this is going.

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<v Speaker 1>To be back up somewhere. We know that if we

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<v Speaker 1>then put it on Instagram, we'll get more likes.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh look, mate, I don't know about that. They're not

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<v Speaker 2>in great shape anymore. Maybe once upon a time, love it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>start off with your fact mail. This is how it's

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<v Speaker 2>Malamonte everyone, And each episode, Malk starts off with a

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<v Speaker 2>random fact, usually one that's just sitting on a shelf

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<v Speaker 2>in her brain that will never get used otherwise.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, do you know how Michael Jackson back in the

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<v Speaker 2>eighties nineteen eighty four to be more exact act, was

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<v Speaker 2>burnt during the recording of a Pepsi commercial? Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>which is full on. I was watching the footage the

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<v Speaker 2>other day. I was like, oh, that was nasty. They reckon.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what kicked off the addiction to pain meds and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be burnt would be so unbelief. You just

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<v Speaker 1>think of when you burn your finger, how excruciating it is. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>you would not want to be the person who was

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<v Speaker 1>responsible for whatever happened there, the pyrotechnics and burning Michael Jackson.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like the word pyrotechnics. That makes me scared.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like any of that stuff. I'm like, that's

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<v Speaker 2>just messing with shit anyway, Totally, this is my fact.

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<v Speaker 2>The day Michael Jackson's hair caught fire filming the Pepsi

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<v Speaker 2>commercial in nineteen eighty four was the day that marked

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<v Speaker 2>the exact halfway point of his life. So he had

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<v Speaker 2>lived for nine two hundred and eighty one days and

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<v Speaker 2>died nine two two hundred and eighty one days later. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so that that moment in time was the exact midway

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<v Speaker 2>point of his life. I think that's fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you not think that's fascinating?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, or are you saying because he nearly escaped

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<v Speaker 3>death then so that's he could have died then, so

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<v Speaker 3>then living the exact same amount of days later.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Also, who the fuck worked about out that is? Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, random, but no, I just think that's

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a coincidence, not a fantastic fact. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you shared it, but I'm not impressed.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh all right, Well, how about back in the olden days,

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<v Speaker 2>dentures were made from the teeth of dead soldiers. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you like that much? What?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Give you that? I'll give you Michael Jackson one was

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<v Speaker 2>fucking amazing, Like, what a massive event to happen in

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<v Speaker 2>that one point of your life. Yeah, and that kicked

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<v Speaker 2>off his death. Yeah, true, that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, if you think it's good, there'll be at

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<v Speaker 1>least one other person listening that thinks it's good. But

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of like death stuff. The other day, we're out

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<v Speaker 1>on the trampoline. I'm not I can't jump on the

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<v Speaker 1>trampoline or I'll wet my pants. But Odie's laying on

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<v Speaker 1>the trampoline. It's starting to get dark, and he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh the stars, Nana. So Odie never met my mom.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt pregnant after a year after my mom passed.

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<v Speaker 1>So ODI's four. Trying to explain to a four year

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<v Speaker 1>old about death is the biggest head fuck of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh the clarification, Oh, so is there? And he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>Nana is Nana up there? And I say, yeah, buddy,

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<v Speaker 1>Nana's in the stars, and he's like, she lives there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, well, she doesn't really live anywhere anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>When you die, we look at the stars and we

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<v Speaker 1>think about people, but they're not really there anymore. This

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<v Speaker 1>went on mal for twenty minutes of me trying to

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<v Speaker 1>explain it. It's a very difficult concept to explain death

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<v Speaker 1>full stop, because where the fuck do we go what happens?

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<v Speaker 1>You just put it wherever your mind feels like.

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<v Speaker 2>It's okay, yeah, but I do get the added complication

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<v Speaker 2>of the stars is an abstract sort of thing, like

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<v Speaker 2>he needs concrete. Hang on a second, what do you mean? Like, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>It's too abstract for a yeah, but death is a

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<v Speaker 1>bit abstract. I'm like, well, she's not in I don't

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<v Speaker 1>believe in heaven and hell, so I'm not like she's

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<v Speaker 1>in heaven, but what's heaven?

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<v Speaker 3>To him?

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<v Speaker 1>Like none of it makes sense anyway. I thought he

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<v Speaker 1>finally got it. So twenty minutes of explaining to him Nana,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't say it because he's like, can we visit Nana?

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<v Speaker 1>I said, we can't visit Nana. When somebody passes, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't see them anymore. We're alive and we're living and

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<v Speaker 1>we can see each other, and then we do something

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<v Speaker 1>called die and we can't see them anymore. He's like

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<v Speaker 1>ever again. I'm like ever again anyway, So I'm like, great,

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<v Speaker 1>the little guy finally has got it. So I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna record him, just to clarify and make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that there's a full stop to this death chat. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is what happened.

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<v Speaker 4>Where do you think Nana is? And yeah, because Nana died?

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<v Speaker 4>What does dyed mean?

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<v Speaker 1>He die?

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<v Speaker 4>Die?

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<v Speaker 3>Die?

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<v Speaker 4>What does it mean when you die? I don't mean

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<v Speaker 4>you can't see them anymore? Doesn't it'll kill two?

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<v Speaker 1>So that's where we got I don't know after all.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at least he was honest. Also, is that not

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<v Speaker 2>the cutest voice of all time?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Mate, his little voice, it's husky. The other day we

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<v Speaker 1>were out and a man walked past me said, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the best voice I've ever heard. It's the little husk

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<v Speaker 1>to it. That's just so gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 2>Did Allo have a bit of a husky voice too?

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<v Speaker 1>I think he might have really did.

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<v Speaker 3>Mild Of course, you've forgot I've forgotten everything about them everything,

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<v Speaker 3>and I never savored them as I am savoring him.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so true that when you know it to your last,

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<v Speaker 3>like every every night, I just soak him up, and

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<v Speaker 3>he's got a beauty spot and on the top of

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<v Speaker 3>his lip that I just can't get enough of. And

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<v Speaker 3>I just look at him and I get him to

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<v Speaker 3>stare me in the eyes, and I just really embrace

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<v Speaker 3>and soak him in, which I never did with the

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<v Speaker 3>other two.

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<v Speaker 2>That's something that you really miss when you're not. Like

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<v Speaker 2>when I had my second child, probably for a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years, I wasn't sure if I was going to

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<v Speaker 2>have a yes, And I feel like, uh, because I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't solid in that. I didn't you know, maybe I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't in it as much as I should have been.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, I know exactly what you mean, yes, because you

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<v Speaker 1>like you're like, oh, I'll get to go through it again,

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<v Speaker 1>so you do. There's something so different about if you

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<v Speaker 1>know it. I knew AlOH wasn't my last, so I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I have time. I can pay half attention to him.

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<v Speaker 1>I pay full attention to the last one. I've fucking

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<v Speaker 1>middle children.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a real, got a real thing with that

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<v Speaker 2>take it personally. Can I just say also on the

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<v Speaker 2>death thing, I do think, and this is gonna sound

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't want to sound judgmental when people may disagree,

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<v Speaker 2>but I do think with little kids, even if it's

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<v Speaker 2>not your personal belief, I do think the concept of

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<v Speaker 2>heaven makes death a little bit less scary for them

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<v Speaker 2>because once they get to a certain age, they're gonna know, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>they make their own decision is heaven and they start

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<v Speaker 2>questioning things. But when they're Odie's age, it's like God

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<v Speaker 2>forbid something happened to you or Sam, and you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't believe in heaven. You just die and then

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<v Speaker 2>you're gone and whatever, Like he has nothing for him

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<v Speaker 2>to hold on to, like a concept. It's almost like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, with kids, if you've got kids in the car,

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<v Speaker 2>turn this off warning. It's like the concept of Santa. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just a thing that gives them something something, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they get older and they know it's you know, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>But also I think maybe a four year old's too

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<v Speaker 1>young to learn about death. But I guess if it

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<v Speaker 1>happened to somebody that he knew, I would have to

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<v Speaker 1>explain it to him. But even heaven, like he would

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<v Speaker 1>not understand why we couldn't just go to heaven and

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<v Speaker 1>visit the person, Like to him, why wouldn't we just

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<v Speaker 1>visit them, Like it's hard to get in your head

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<v Speaker 1>or they're gone. But I hear what you mean, Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>having a place like heaven where everyone's dead is just

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<v Speaker 1>roaming around much more enjoyable and grasp worthy for a child.

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<v Speaker 2>And so nice that you like, we're the same. My

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<v Speaker 2>dad didn't see any of our kids, but they all

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<v Speaker 2>know who he is. We talk about him all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I think you have to, like that is the

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<v Speaker 2>nicest tribute you can give somebody, is to keep them

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<v Speaker 2>alive with the people that never even met them totally.

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<v Speaker 1>Like they say, you die twice, don't they like you

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<v Speaker 1>when you die? And then when people stop talking about you,

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<v Speaker 1>which is really you do like that happened so much,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I never talk about my great grandparents because I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't meet them, so I don't really know anything about them.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's anyone else who like my uncle would probably

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<v Speaker 1>still talk about them. But once he's gone, like that's it,

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, yeah, gone, you just go, you completely go.

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<v Speaker 1>So you were saying that you listen to the Oprah

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<v Speaker 1>episode though, when they were talking about near death experiences.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't listened to it. I never listened to Oprah's podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it Soul Sundays or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, she's got another one. It's I think it's just

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<v Speaker 2>called the Oprah Winfrey Podcast, right, Okay, creative, yeah, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>but what a brand. Yeah, but it was with a

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<v Speaker 2>doctor who has done all this research into near death experiences.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say that if you're someone who has lost

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<v Speaker 2>someone you love, there might be something in it that

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<v Speaker 2>you find comforting. But he talked about how he was

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<v Speaker 2>a man of science. Right, he's a doctor. This all

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<v Speaker 2>started because there was a patient that came in that

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<v Speaker 2>had overdosed and she was in a coma and they

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<v Speaker 2>had her on life support. You know, obviously she's not awake,

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<v Speaker 2>her eyes aren't open, she's not there saying like the

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<v Speaker 2>brain activity was very low. So he had gone out

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<v Speaker 2>into the corridor and gone like to the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the corridor to speak to this patient's roommate about her condition. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>the girl in the coma wakes up and she starts

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<v Speaker 2>talking to the doctor and telling him that she saw

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<v Speaker 2>him talking to her roommate in the corridor. She replayed

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<v Speaker 2>the entire conversation down to what he was wearing, down

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<v Speaker 2>to the fact that he had a stain on his tie. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a couple of things. Number one is that he said,

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<v Speaker 2>when I was in the room with her, her eyes

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<v Speaker 2>are closed. She can't see anything, he said. But number two,

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<v Speaker 2>I had my coat, like the white coat or whatever on.

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<v Speaker 2>It was buttoned up. When I went out into the

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<v Speaker 2>corridor to speak to the friend. He said, it was hot,

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<v Speaker 2>I unbuttoned it. She wouldn't have even seen my tie.

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<v Speaker 2>Even if she had for a split second opened her

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<v Speaker 2>eyes in the room where he was, she wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 2>even seen his tie because it was under the coat.

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<v Speaker 2>But when he'd gone out into the corridor, he said,

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<v Speaker 2>he took the coat off, and that's when the tie

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<v Speaker 2>was visible. So he started just researching and speaking to

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<v Speaker 2>all these medical professionals who had reported patients who had

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing. But how there's this thing that they

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<v Speaker 2>were talking about, because there's commonalities with all of these experiences.

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<v Speaker 2>So obviously people who've died and come back right because

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't their time or whatever. But one of the

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<v Speaker 2>things they talked about is a life review. So Oprah

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<v Speaker 2>threw back to a clip that she'd done on her

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<v Speaker 2>show of near death experiences, and one of them was

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<v Speaker 2>a man who was a mechanical or something and a

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<v Speaker 2>car had fallen on him and he had like technically

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<v Speaker 2>died but come back. But he said when he was dead,

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<v Speaker 2>it was like they have this thing called a life

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<v Speaker 2>review where your life plays out in front of you. No,

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<v Speaker 2>no hold on, but this is the thing, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is why I don't believe in hell anymore. I

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<v Speaker 2>think this is the hell part. He was quite abusive

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<v Speaker 2>to his wife. He said that in this life review,

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<v Speaker 2>he said, not only did I see what I did

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<v Speaker 2>to my wife, he said I felt what it was

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<v Speaker 2>like to be her.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 2>If that is not the most perfect justice, oh, he said,

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<v Speaker 2>it was I was her and I was feeling how

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<v Speaker 2>she felt the way I was treating her.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my, oh gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>He came back to life and like completely changed. She

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<v Speaker 2>stayed with him and all this stuff. But it's like

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<v Speaker 2>that feeling of you do good, you'll feel good. You

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<v Speaker 2>do bad, you'll feel bad, You'll But there was also

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<v Speaker 2>another woman who was talking about her life of you,

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<v Speaker 2>and she was talking about how her mum had been

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<v Speaker 2>quite abusive to her when she was young, and she said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it was like feeling the feeling also from

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<v Speaker 2>her mum's perspective when she was beating her and her

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<v Speaker 2>mum's So it's like there is this overwhelming people talk

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<v Speaker 2>about it being judgment, but it's also compassion. Like it's

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<v Speaker 2>almost like everything you see everything from all sides and

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<v Speaker 2>you feel it from all sides.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like every corner of it is explained to you,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe that kind of puts it all. You can

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<v Speaker 1>leave with it all being okay because you can go, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why that person treated me like that. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>because they hated me. It's because they were in a

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<v Speaker 1>really bad place or something like. It sounds like a

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<v Speaker 1>psilocybin trip. Like it sounds like that time I did

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<v Speaker 1>psilocybin and I felt every single emotion for every single

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<v Speaker 1>woman in the whole wide world. That's what it sounds like,

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<v Speaker 1>that you just hit with every single emotion. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like, I don't I wonder for us what we

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<v Speaker 1>would feel because we're not abusive. I mean, I really

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<v Speaker 1>yell at my kids though, I would be mortified to

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<v Speaker 1>know how sometimes they feel with me just yelling at them.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if that will be replayed back to me

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<v Speaker 1>or yeah, I wonder I wonder if like how our

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<v Speaker 1>dads felt in the war would be replayed back to us.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one thing that sort of played on my mind too,

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<v Speaker 1>that I felt. I feel this sort of like when

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<v Speaker 1>I hear things like that, because then there's obviously people

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<v Speaker 1>talking about seeing people they loved that have passed before them.

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<v Speaker 1>Also this feeling that I've always had of when you die,

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<v Speaker 1>and when I think of my dad, I think about

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<v Speaker 1>the like the heartbreak of them when they go, feeling

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<v Speaker 1>like they don't want to leave their families or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But across the board, everyone was like we didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>want to come back, like it was. But the feeling,

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<v Speaker 1>the beauty, it's like, oh she had you know. Jeremy

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<v Speaker 1>Renner he played Hawkeye in the Marvel movies. Yeah, he

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<v Speaker 1>got over by the snow machine.

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<v Speaker 2>And she interviewed him and he said, I can't explain

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<v Speaker 2>it any other way than he said, It's like I

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<v Speaker 2>am That's the only way I can explain it. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like you are everything and you're nothing, but all

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<v Speaker 2>you feel is the concept that all you take with

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<v Speaker 2>you is love, the love that you had here, and

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<v Speaker 2>that there was no desire to come back because the

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<v Speaker 2>feeling was so beautiful. He felt like this feeling of

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<v Speaker 2>being loved and protected. Now that could be for some people. God,

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<v Speaker 2>it could be the universe, whatever you want to call it,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's something higher.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's so. It gave me goosebumps. Goosebumps, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>so comforting because I've told you what my mum said

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<v Speaker 1>before she dies, I just don't want to miss out

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<v Speaker 1>on anything, you know, because she just loved my boys

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<v Speaker 1>so much that she didn't want to miss out on

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<v Speaker 1>being a nana. Where to think that because she lived

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<v Speaker 1>a life where she loved so fiercely and was loved

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<v Speaker 1>so fiercely that hopefully she went into wherever with that

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<v Speaker 1>overwhelming feeling of love and also not wanting to come back,

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<v Speaker 1>like being completely at peace and maybe seeing my grandparents

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<v Speaker 1>Like you're always just romanticize it a bit to make

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<v Speaker 1>it sit okay with you. But the fact that these

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<v Speaker 1>people have been there and are saying this is pretty comforting.

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<v Speaker 2>And thousands of documented cases. Wow, there's too many links.

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<v Speaker 2>There's too many common things that people feel during that time,

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<v Speaker 2>and like stuff that you can't explain, like someone who's

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<v Speaker 2>flatlined on a fucking table and telling the surgeon what

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<v Speaker 2>they said, Yeah, how can you be? You can't explain it?

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's why people grapple with it, because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's like I guess that thought of God.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like faith is having faith and not having any

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<v Speaker 2>science to back it up, not havinges you just believe.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like.

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<v Speaker 2>The same thing. I think for most of us, we

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<v Speaker 2>hear it and we're like, but how do you really

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<v Speaker 2>know totally?

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<v Speaker 1>And it is because there's like so many of us

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<v Speaker 1>need science to go, Okay, well that's factual, but there's

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<v Speaker 1>so much that can't be explained with science. And I

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<v Speaker 1>believe things like that. You know, like just the other day,

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<v Speaker 1>back said I believe in ghosts. He called them, and

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<v Speaker 1>he watched some show and the conjuring he was watching.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I know, I watched the just the trailer and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you watch that.

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<v Speaker 2>But he didn't love story. Yeah, I love that stuff too.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh not enough.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I might have said before I was addicted

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<v Speaker 2>to that shit when I was young, But that's also

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<v Speaker 2>dopamine seeking behavior. Yes, I chant alone on dopamine.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I think with him.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, you're either a psychopath or you're something's lacking

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<v Speaker 3>in you, because it's very odd for a thirteen year

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<v Speaker 3>old to want to be fucking terrified NonStop. Like any

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<v Speaker 3>movie he watches will be a bit terrifying. Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 3>it's I guess the thrill. It's the thrill of the fear.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, totally, it would totally be a dopamine hit. But

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<v Speaker 1>getting back to like ghosts and stuff, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>too much of that as well, which is not explained

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<v Speaker 1>by science, of people coming through other people to communicate,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and if it's too blase a, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>believe it. But when they're very specific, that's when it's

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<v Speaker 1>like there's just no way, like there's no way that

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<v Speaker 1>person could know, So there has to be something there

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<v Speaker 1>that person has to be speaking to them. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>when the police force use mediums to try and help

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<v Speaker 1>solve unsolved cases.

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<v Speaker 2>And you would think, oh my god, like as if

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<v Speaker 2>they would, but the fact that they do says a

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<v Speaker 2>lot totally. And I also think that we're the ones

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<v Speaker 2>that are missing out because we feel like, like, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>you say, oh, your mom, you know, she missed out

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<v Speaker 2>on seeing Odie and stuff. But I think that maybe

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<v Speaker 2>she's seen more than she would have if she was here.

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<v Speaker 2>We miss out because we don't get to interact with Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>but she's seeing heaps more than she would have before.

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<v Speaker 2>And I also say to my mum, because my mum

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<v Speaker 2>often says that, you know, like she gets lonely, but

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<v Speaker 2>she says sometimes she feels this compulsion to talk today,

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<v Speaker 2>so she'll do it. And I said to her, to me,

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<v Speaker 2>that's just a sign. When you have that feeling, that's

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<v Speaker 2>him letting you know he's there, you know, so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, occasionally I get that compulsion, not often, but sometimes Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>just out loud, I've got I really miss your mum,

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<v Speaker 1>or today's been a really good day, mum. Like it'll

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<v Speaker 1>usually just be a sentence, but it's like, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>have the compulsion to share with her, and you're just

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<v Speaker 1>saying it out loud for some reason, you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it's getting to them. Yes, Ye, anyway, interesting one. Hey,

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