WEBVTT - Proof MAFS Producers Knew Couples Had History

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<v Speaker 1>This podcast was recorded and produced on gadigle Land.

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<v Speaker 2>We would like to acknowledge the traditional custodians and pay

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<v Speaker 2>respect to Elder's past and present. Ladies and gentlemen, can

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<v Speaker 2>I please have your attention? This is my final MATHS

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<v Speaker 2>related interview. Are they talking about me? She's like yep,

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<v Speaker 2>it was Australia's reactions paused a lot of drama and

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<v Speaker 2>they never got it. It just went nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello and welcome back to back to Reality.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Selena and god have I missed you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a brand new season, a brand new year,

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<v Speaker 1>a brand new era, and we also have a brand

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<v Speaker 1>new co host.

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<v Speaker 3>I am obsessed with this queen.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like this is the collub that no one expected,

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<v Speaker 1>but like you'll be very excited it is my queen.

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<v Speaker 2>Tiny huh. I am so happy to be here. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like no one's going to expect this.

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<v Speaker 3>No right, love that literally.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for having me. I'm very, very very excited.

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<v Speaker 1>Two little Asian queens Asian Queen Asian Lovision both healed

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff with trauma from.

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<v Speaker 2>Mass Yes, honestly, I reckon we trauma bonded over that.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's be real.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you were on season ten.

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<v Speaker 2>Season ten. Yes, I was on season nice. I watched

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<v Speaker 2>your season, loved it.

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<v Speaker 3>I loved you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh actually no, I could it quite watch the whole

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<v Speaker 1>season ten, only because I was still recovery.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a lot. I feel like a year after you

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<v Speaker 2>go on it, you watch it back and you're just

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<v Speaker 2>triggered the whole time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you see it from a different length for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Even the dramatic sound effects that they use.

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<v Speaker 2>The violin the doom. No, yes, I got it. I know.

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<v Speaker 3>So so much has happened since we had you on the.

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<v Speaker 1>Podlast Well, you're not single anymore, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, No, we we spoke. When did we speak?

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<v Speaker 2>It was last maybe.

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<v Speaker 1>It would have yeah, like May April May.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like early last year, and yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 2>an interesting time. A lot of drawing going on, which

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<v Speaker 2>I like constantly follows me. But no, we have so

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<v Speaker 2>much has happened. So much has happened. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>life after reality TV can be crazy, but it's been great.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been really good. I feel like I've taken like

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<v Speaker 2>all of last year to really like reflect on my

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<v Speaker 2>journey on the show, my last relationship, and then move

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<v Speaker 2>into like dating as like a new person almost, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's been fun. I know, we go to events a

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<v Speaker 2>lot together and we bump and cross paths, so we

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<v Speaker 2>don't have time to properly sit and chat. And every

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<v Speaker 2>single time we passed each other, we're like, oh my,

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<v Speaker 2>so much tea, babe, so much. Yeah, and we never

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<v Speaker 2>get actually debreath always.

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<v Speaker 3>This is so good.

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<v Speaker 2>We can have our weekly debreeths on here weekly tea.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're not obviously just going to be talking to

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<v Speaker 1>each other. We're going to be talking to our favorite

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<v Speaker 1>Maths Love Island guests as reality TV.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think it's gonna be fun just to have

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<v Speaker 2>those like conversations, dive a bit deeper, unpack, get the

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<v Speaker 2>tears straight from the sauce. And I mean, I love

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<v Speaker 2>reality TV. I know you do too, and I'm so

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<v Speaker 2>glad we can just yap on about it on this

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<v Speaker 2>podcast and that's really what it's going to be. And

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<v Speaker 2>you feel like, obviously Maths, we were on Maths, we

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<v Speaker 2>love Maths, but there's so many other amazing reality TV

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<v Speaker 2>shows as well that we want to dive into too.

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<v Speaker 3>Love Island.

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<v Speaker 1>This was hectic. I was hectic, loved it. It was

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<v Speaker 1>giving season one for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Life's great.

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<v Speaker 3>So much drama and like so much beef.

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<v Speaker 2>I Maths, Yeah, it was giving maths. I love Love Island.

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<v Speaker 2>I think if I didn't do Maths, I would love

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<v Speaker 2>to be on Love Island. But also I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know I have the confidence to do the stuff that

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<v Speaker 2>they do, sing all the like kissing challenges and like

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<v Speaker 2>the strip tea stuff I could never. Also part of

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<v Speaker 2>me is like a bit selfish. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>like have to fight for someone and share. Yeah, MATS

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<v Speaker 2>was great because you get given someone and that's your

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<v Speaker 2>person and you go through all depends on how you

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<v Speaker 2>want to go down through. But I like that format.

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<v Speaker 2>So I always think that I've been adopted into the

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<v Speaker 2>Love Island franchise because a lot of my friends are

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<v Speaker 2>in that on that show. But yeah, they even All

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<v Speaker 2>Stars have been watching Love Island All Stars.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but I just saw an article today that Lucinda

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<v Speaker 1>Strafford that was on last season that was matched with

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Yes, was meant to be All Stars and she

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<v Speaker 1>got there and then she pulled out last minute. She's

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<v Speaker 1>like flowing all the way there and all the way

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<v Speaker 1>back to the UK. I mean, fair enough, but what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to know the teams.

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<v Speaker 2>Look. I feel like with Love Island, I would hate

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<v Speaker 2>to come on as a bombshell. I feel like I'd

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<v Speaker 2>want to be like one of the og cast. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like when you watch it, it stresses me out

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<v Speaker 2>how they have to go graft and like go and

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<v Speaker 2>steal people, Like that would be the worst. But there's

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<v Speaker 2>been so many rumors about like who's going on. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I was hoping Loomy would go on and then he

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<v Speaker 2>was like no. I was like, no, the finest man

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<v Speaker 2>to ever exist on the franchise is not coming back.

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<v Speaker 2>But also I don't know. I feel like on reality

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<v Speaker 2>TV in general, I feel like they should be age limit.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they should be twenty five across all reality TV.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like before that, I just don't think you

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<v Speaker 2>can fully understand what you're signing yourself. Yeah, I agree,

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<v Speaker 2>I know Maths is twenty five plus, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>like it's because I think when like these people have

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<v Speaker 2>been on Love Line, they've been like nineteen twenty. Can

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<v Speaker 2>you imagine if you had done something like that at

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<v Speaker 2>that age.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no way.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, I was scouted for season one of

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<v Speaker 1>Love Island, was it like a DM thing like I.

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<v Speaker 3>Was out one night.

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<v Speaker 2>Shut up.

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<v Speaker 3>We just got off the boat.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been day drinking, super drunk and they came up

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<v Speaker 1>to what no me and like, oh, are you single?

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, oh, they're gona probably step me

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<v Speaker 1>up with one of their weird cousins. They were like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we're casting for a show called Love Island Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>Never heard of it.

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<v Speaker 3>So drunk, I was like, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>My god, yeah sure, And then I got a call

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<v Speaker 1>because I had obviously given them my details and they

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<v Speaker 1>will like, have you filled out your application yet? And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like for what, sorry, how are you And

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, yeah, we will send it to you again,

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<v Speaker 1>so just check your email. And then I went through

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<v Speaker 1>the whole like audition phase and everything and yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I sent me an email saying look, we want

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<v Speaker 1>you as a bombshell, but we're only going to like

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<v Speaker 1>it was something really odd like forty eight hours notice

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<v Speaker 1>if I hate you, and then you need to be

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<v Speaker 1>on a plane to Spain and I.

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<v Speaker 3>Was like, it's just true hairdressing. Yeah, I couldn't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just feel like, to be fair, that was

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<v Speaker 2>like one of the best seasons I've ever seen to

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<v Speaker 2>great Australian TV let me iconic and so many great

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<v Speaker 2>characters from that branchized like from that season. I know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how you'd how he would go on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Looking back now, I'm like, I'm so glad I didn't. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just it's not it's not me. Yeah, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean. It's it takes the type person to

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<v Speaker 2>go on like you have to be really just like

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<v Speaker 2>forward and just it's just not not a bit of me.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't think it's true fight or something or

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<v Speaker 2>that's a sleigh.

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<v Speaker 1>I could do that, true, but like you like shots

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<v Speaker 1>that they do when they're pouring outcohol.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I could do the bikini every day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I could do that talking. Yes, you can,

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<v Speaker 1>like the biding stuff. You look amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>They give a lot biding. Okay, So we could talk

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<v Speaker 2>about this all day, but into maps chats so obviously

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<v Speaker 2>New Year every time I'm like, it's Ao, then it's

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<v Speaker 2>Maps time straight into it. So New Year and we've

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<v Speaker 2>been seeing some stuff and we thought we would answer

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<v Speaker 2>some of the questions we've been seeing online because there's

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<v Speaker 2>so much and I think we wanted to start off

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<v Speaker 2>with contract. I also printed out my maps questionnaire, which

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<v Speaker 2>is hilarious. But we've seen a lot of sentiment online

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<v Speaker 2>in regards to the contract. I think it stems from

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<v Speaker 2>the general conversation of bad edits and people, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>having something to say about how they're perceived, and you

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<v Speaker 2>kind of really sign away control over that when you

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<v Speaker 2>do something like this. And I actually saw this brilliant

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<v Speaker 2>TikTok video by a lawyer on TikTok I love legal

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<v Speaker 2>Talk called Jahann and love him, and he basically came

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<v Speaker 2>on and said he had a client that came to

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<v Speaker 2>him to review the contract and was like, do not

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<v Speaker 2>sign this, and was like, these are the key points.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't sign it. And I think he said, like that

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<v Speaker 2>person went on to go on the show and wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>shown in a favorable light. I'd love to know who

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<v Speaker 2>that is. Yeah, And yeah, I think, And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if you had this experience, but when I was

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<v Speaker 2>reviewing my contract, I did get a lawyer to look

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<v Speaker 2>at it.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you how?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I just like read through the whole thing. You're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>ol from my season just signed it. He didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>read it.

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<v Speaker 2>Shut up.

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<v Speaker 3>He was so Yeah, yes, I love him.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think, okay, if you, let's say you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>read the contract, there is one page you want to read.

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<v Speaker 2>That page is like you've got your name on the contract.

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<v Speaker 2>Then it's like first page, old, boxed up ye, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's basically like what you're signing your life force? And

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<v Speaker 2>I think this. I think back, and I'm like, why

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<v Speaker 2>did we?

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<v Speaker 1>I know? So I hands down, and I was so naive,

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<v Speaker 1>so naive. I'm like, I just wanted love so badly

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<v Speaker 1>and to be loved that. I was like, surely they

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<v Speaker 1>could see the desperation and match me with someone genuine

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<v Speaker 1>at least, you know, yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I saw that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like this huge you just glad over way.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like highlighted gray, and it's different from all the

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<v Speaker 1>other pages. The contract is thirty seven pages long, like.

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<v Speaker 3>It's long, really long.

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<v Speaker 2>I do want to preface though, I do think although

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<v Speaker 2>a hectic contract, I think you should be able to

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<v Speaker 2>withdraw consent any time in any situation, in any scenario.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my personal opinion, and obviously in this case, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't do that. So I'm going to say that, but

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<v Speaker 2>keeping that in mind, all right, So I think the

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<v Speaker 2>general thing is that you can't control how you look,

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<v Speaker 2>and you might not be shown in a positive light yep,

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<v Speaker 2>which is I think most people.

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<v Speaker 3>Maths.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like the chances of you looking not like

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<v Speaker 2>an idiot is so much slimmer than looking positive. I

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<v Speaker 2>think positive is the key word there. And I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like we can comment on this and we are able

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<v Speaker 2>to share our honest opinions in regards to that. I

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<v Speaker 2>would never advise someone to go on if that was

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<v Speaker 2>what they wanted, because fame doesn't equal money, and personally,

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<v Speaker 2>I would rather money than pay for you, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think the fame element is really It's interesting because I think,

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<v Speaker 2>especially if you have a certain jobs, really working that job,

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<v Speaker 2>after going through an experience like this, it makes your life.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like Maths made my life a lot harder

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<v Speaker 2>in different ways, from professionally, from relationships, from all areas really,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that maybe is not really thought through

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<v Speaker 2>in that beginning stage because you'd think, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>amazing'm gonna be on TV, I'm going to get Instagram followers,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to do this, this, this. Yeah, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>always the case, and I would say it's not always

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<v Speaker 2>the case for like ninety eight percent of people that

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<v Speaker 2>go on YEP. I think that's a fair number. Definitely

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<v Speaker 2>agree with that. When you signed up for it, because

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<v Speaker 2>I know yours was during COVID time, which was even

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<v Speaker 2>more intense. What did you think? Were you like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be on TV. I'm like, what was

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<v Speaker 2>your kind of headspace when you were applying for that? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>What did you think?

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<v Speaker 1>So?

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<v Speaker 2>For me?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I'm thirty seven this year, so I was what

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<v Speaker 1>three seasons ago, and like what you said, it was

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<v Speaker 1>peak COVID. Lost my job was in lockdown the ad

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<v Speaker 1>came on. I was just in a really vulnerable, dark place,

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<v Speaker 1>like I've actually shared a lot online recently on my

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok about my family dynamic and just unpacking a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of that trauma. I now know that back then I

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<v Speaker 1>was even more fragile totally I am now, and like

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<v Speaker 1>I was just I was so lonely, Like I was

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<v Speaker 1>in this huge three bedroom house by myself.

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<v Speaker 3>I was renting, but in Adelaide.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so much cheaper, of course, and I was like

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<v Speaker 1>I was literally like I could die right now and

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<v Speaker 1>no one would give a fuck. My parents went checking

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<v Speaker 1>up on me, like lost my job I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>the only way they would find my corpse is if

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<v Speaker 1>someone was like, hey, she hasn't done my hair.

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<v Speaker 3>Like everyone's back to work now, do you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like everyone's got someone, whether it was a dog

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<v Speaker 1>or a cat, yeah that or sister mum or dad.

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<v Speaker 1>They had some kind of love yeah, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>had no one. And I'm not saying this to be

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<v Speaker 1>like a pity party, a hate home, people feeling sorry

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<v Speaker 1>for me, But I was just in such a dark

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<v Speaker 1>place and for me, I think you can relate to

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<v Speaker 1>this being of Asian background.

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<v Speaker 3>But like in my.

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<v Speaker 1>Household, it was like you're only going to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to leave here and be happy if you get married.

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<v Speaker 1>So my mind was always like my ticket to happiness, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>when I were to find a partner for sure. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I was in such a dark place and the

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<v Speaker 1>ad came up for married. At first I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe this is a sign.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's the universe.

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<v Speaker 1>If people know me and follow me for a while,

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<v Speaker 1>they know I'm all about the signs and the synchronicity,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, this is the universe telling me to

0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:54.400
<v Speaker 1>sign up. Yeah, Like maybe my soulmates just like there.

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<v Speaker 3>Show a TV show away. Yeah, so that's what I

0:13:57.320 --> 0:13:59.600
<v Speaker 3>signed up. Yeah, just keeping mind.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we all made really shitty decisions during COVID.

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<v Speaker 2>For sure.

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<v Speaker 3>That was mine, Yeah, that was yours.

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<v Speaker 2>So it never really kind of went through your mind

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<v Speaker 2>that same fortune Instagrammy aspected.

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<v Speaker 1>It, no, because even like I've been seeing the same

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<v Speaker 1>psychologists since the show, and even she's like, but you

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<v Speaker 1>loved hairdressing, I'm so confused why you left.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a full clientele.

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<v Speaker 1>I was really happy, obsessed with hair dressing. So it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't like I was going on there to launch. I

0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:31.920
<v Speaker 1>didn't have anything to launch. Like nowadays you'll see like

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm on a podcast now. But normally when you

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<v Speaker 1>see post maths, they've got like they've launched something, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they've used the show as a little bit of a platform. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I didn't have like my forefront. Mine was like

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<v Speaker 1>definitely to find love. Yeah, but that was like that

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<v Speaker 1>worked against me because I just I watched myself now

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't recognize myself.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't recognize shit with that. Yeah, and it just

0:14:56.560 --> 0:15:01.240
<v Speaker 2>should never do that now ever, never never. So there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of chat online. It's like exposing ourselves, but

0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:08.280
<v Speaker 2>people being like, who would apply for this? And they're

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<v Speaker 2>totally scouted because they are coming from different reality shows.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's so funny because you and I both applied.

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<v Speaker 2>Lack of judgment from us, and I find it funny.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing I really hate is when you see this

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<v Speaker 2>is a complete side note, but when you see after

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<v Speaker 2>the show people coming being like, well, they approached me,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even apply. They scattered me. It's any better

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<v Speaker 2>than applying. I know. It's like, Okay, does that make

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<v Speaker 2>you better? Because someone's sitting in your DM You're like,

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<v Speaker 2>what's that about? But from our experience having applied for it,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a different I think it's a different process because

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like they then maybe shape the couple around

0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:50.200
<v Speaker 2>you whereas I do, and then maybe you find someone

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<v Speaker 2>that suits what you want or to contradict what you

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<v Speaker 2>want or to that dynamic that they're looking for. So

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<v Speaker 2>you have applied and you fit in, Okay, great, you

0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:01.920
<v Speaker 2>are the good wholesome girl or you're the villain. Then

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to be like, let's find your person, yeah

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<v Speaker 2>to match?

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's that's the logic I have in my head.

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<v Speaker 2>You're completely wrong. But we've seen this year quite a

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<v Speaker 2>few of the cast had been on their actors or

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<v Speaker 2>they've been on previous reality TV shows. Ye, what do

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<v Speaker 2>we feel about that?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like from a production point of view, it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably easier for them to work with someone totally he's

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable in front of the camera. The reason why I

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<v Speaker 1>say that is because on our season we had I Reckon.

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<v Speaker 1>None of the boys had watched the show before, and

0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:41.600
<v Speaker 1>they just weren't compliant because there are yeah, you're filming

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<v Speaker 1>a TV show at the end of the days, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's certain things that you have to redo ten to

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<v Speaker 1>twenty times even and my person I don't even know

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<v Speaker 1>if I want to mention his name saying he just

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<v Speaker 1>like he just did not want to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>He was off it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, but you're here for a reason.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's so funny to me because I had that

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<v Speaker 2>experience to my apolgeta the show and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>why would you sign up to something that you don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know what it's about.

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<v Speaker 3>It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>We had actually watched your season when we were filming,

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<v Speaker 2>because we're like, hey, what's next, what week's next? Like,

0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:18.960
<v Speaker 2>let's watch it and out the vibes, and I was like,

0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:21.080
<v Speaker 2>because I had i'd obviously watched, I knew I had

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<v Speaker 2>a rough idea because I'd only ever watched your season.

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<v Speaker 2>I watched season six, which is iconic season, but I

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't really watched it other than that, and honestly, I

0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:30.320
<v Speaker 2>hadn't watched it from start to finish. I watched all

0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:33.280
<v Speaker 2>the TikTok little social snipers, okay, and that's how I

0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:35.359
<v Speaker 2>got an idea of what was on there. But I

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<v Speaker 2>really actually actively watched your season, and that was what

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, Oh, okay, I think I can do that,

0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:43.440
<v Speaker 2>yeacause I think for me, I love reality TV. I've

0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:47.399
<v Speaker 2>always wanted to be in some sort of reality some show.

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<v Speaker 2>It's always just been something I thought would be shits

0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:54.040
<v Speaker 2>and gigs, and it been mass specifically was something that

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<v Speaker 2>my my sister and her husband were like, dude, like

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<v Speaker 2>you have to do it to be so funny, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was so anti it, like I was anti maths,

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<v Speaker 2>like especially when we had like years and years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>when like gay marriage wasn't a thing. I was like, well,

0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:10.600
<v Speaker 2>how come strangers can get married on TV? That's so ridiculous.

0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:12.760
<v Speaker 2>But the people are actually in love, can't get married,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was so anti it, and then I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know why I changed my opinion. Yeah, and then I

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<v Speaker 2>think I was like why not, Like, let's just see.

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<v Speaker 2>I was obviously like with the forefront, like similar to

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<v Speaker 2>you with like wanting to find someone. I felt like

0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:30.520
<v Speaker 2>I had exhausted, not really exhausted. I feel like you

0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:33.600
<v Speaker 2>never exhaust all your options. But I was really done

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<v Speaker 2>with the apps. And I had like not dated like

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<v Speaker 2>anyone or had any communication with any in dating capacity

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<v Speaker 2>for like six months before the before the process, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, Oh, maybe I would meet someone unconventional

0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:49.480
<v Speaker 2>like this. I never thought i'd meet someone in a normal,

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<v Speaker 2>normal way, and I was like, oh, maybe this is

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<v Speaker 2>how I'll meet someone like wanted to write a story

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<v Speaker 2>to tell. And I felt that way for a significant

0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:02.080
<v Speaker 2>part of that previous relationship. And then it obviously went downhill.

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<v Speaker 2>But did he apply or did he got pasted?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Scouted for it? Interesting, it's just like typical Instagram slide

0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:14.080
<v Speaker 2>in the dims a lot of outcast. I think all

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<v Speaker 2>the boys one or two that I know of were scouted.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, same as our season.

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<v Speaker 1>I reckon from my season onwards yeah, the recipe changed,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you reckon? I think so too, And as everyone's different,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to explain it, even just this year,

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<v Speaker 1>like having so many couples knowing each other dated before, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you think that's so weird?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I think it is stupid because I remember, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you had this experience, but I

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<v Speaker 2>remember vividly having a zoom call with a producer and

0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:49.879
<v Speaker 2>I had to literally list names of people I dated

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<v Speaker 2>in the last year. People I went on dates with.

0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:55.879
<v Speaker 2>They wanted to note names anyone that I thought would like.

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<v Speaker 2>It was even like who did you think is gonna

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<v Speaker 2>in your life? Who's going to drop tea on you?

0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:02.159
<v Speaker 2>And I had to gave names. So even people they

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<v Speaker 2>went on a date with or went on three dates with,

0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:07.440
<v Speaker 2>I gave all those names. So there is no possible

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<v Speaker 2>way they did not know. Especially re and Jeff. There's

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<v Speaker 2>no way they did not know that. And you could

0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:15.760
<v Speaker 2>just tell by their reaction it was not genuine. I'dn't

0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:19.520
<v Speaker 2>buy it really at all. Also, like I'm pretty sure

0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:22.359
<v Speaker 2>he's an actor. Yeah, he was on neighbors, so I

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<v Speaker 2>did not. But and I love them. I think they're great,

0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:26.720
<v Speaker 2>They're really well matched. But I liked how she also

0:20:26.840 --> 0:20:29.560
<v Speaker 2>said that she was robbed of the experience of marrying

0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:32.159
<v Speaker 2>a stranger because she knew him. They dated, and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think they really got into what happened. I feel

0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:37.760
<v Speaker 2>like unless I missed that, there's no way producers did

0:20:37.800 --> 0:20:41.520
<v Speaker 2>not know that. Maybe they didn't say, but it was

0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:44.000
<v Speaker 2>in the last it was quite recent when they dated,

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<v Speaker 2>so I just don't know how that would have gone undetected,

0:20:49.040 --> 0:20:51.600
<v Speaker 2>like they do their research.

0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:55.280
<v Speaker 1>And then with I also heard that someone went on

0:20:55.320 --> 0:20:58.119
<v Speaker 1>their instagrams and they were both following each other. They

0:20:58.119 --> 0:21:01.480
<v Speaker 1>were marking photos from back then day stalk so low

0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:03.480
<v Speaker 1>producer Stork, Yeah, they.

0:21:03.440 --> 0:21:04.320
<v Speaker 3>Would have seen that.

0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:07.600
<v Speaker 2>You've seen that, so weird thing. Yeah, I find that

0:21:07.760 --> 0:21:11.920
<v Speaker 2>really bizarre. I think I'm more inclined to believe Karina

0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:14.760
<v Speaker 2>and Paul because they went on one date. Yet how

0:21:14.840 --> 0:21:19.560
<v Speaker 2>that yes, because I reckon I feel like anyone that

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I was in Sydney, I might have like

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<v Speaker 2>a six degree of separate. I would know. So I

0:21:25.080 --> 0:21:27.480
<v Speaker 2>can understand that because they're both from Perth and Perth

0:21:27.560 --> 0:21:32.280
<v Speaker 2>is very small. Yeah, so completely get that. But yeah,

0:21:32.320 --> 0:21:36.320
<v Speaker 2>when just there's no way. Producers do not know. There's

0:21:36.359 --> 0:21:39.919
<v Speaker 2>no way you you have to literally state who you've dated.

0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:42.480
<v Speaker 2>I would assume that that would have been brought up.

0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:44.800
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it wasn't, and it's just this like coincidence.

0:21:45.320 --> 0:21:47.080
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know that part because I was single

0:21:47.119 --> 0:21:49.639
<v Speaker 1>for seven years and I was like ghosted, so I

0:21:49.760 --> 0:21:52.919
<v Speaker 1>never really it never even went past the texting shoes

0:21:53.080 --> 0:21:55.159
<v Speaker 1>or like the one date. I was like, there's no

0:21:55.200 --> 0:21:58.560
<v Speaker 1>one on my list or radar. Yeah, so that's interesting

0:21:58.560 --> 0:21:59.879
<v Speaker 1>because I never got to do that.

0:22:00.200 --> 0:22:03.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No, it was really hard, and I remember like

0:22:03.320 --> 0:22:05.440
<v Speaker 2>they wanted to know, like people I blocked because I

0:22:05.480 --> 0:22:08.280
<v Speaker 2>had a blocked list on Instagram and I come to

0:22:08.320 --> 0:22:12.240
<v Speaker 2>explain why, Wow, many bad experiences I had with certain

0:22:12.280 --> 0:22:14.639
<v Speaker 2>people just in case that came up. Like it was

0:22:14.640 --> 0:22:18.800
<v Speaker 2>pretty invasive, Like I felt like pretty exposed almost like

0:22:18.840 --> 0:22:22.719
<v Speaker 2>to have to talk about like something happened, and thinking about, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy that I want to date with is going

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<v Speaker 2>to come forward and say this, this is like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. Wow. I think that's one thing too, I

0:22:31.440 --> 0:22:34.840
<v Speaker 2>want to get into is when you put yourself in

0:22:35.200 --> 0:22:37.600
<v Speaker 2>something like this and you're very public facing, you're on

0:22:37.640 --> 0:22:40.320
<v Speaker 2>a show, your demons are going to come out, and

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<v Speaker 2>anyone that has something against you or wants to take

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<v Speaker 2>you down, it's gonna it's gonna happen. Any any scorned

0:22:47.160 --> 0:22:51.000
<v Speaker 2>xes anything that would be something is likely going to

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<v Speaker 2>come out. I think that I don't think that happened

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<v Speaker 2>to you, right, I feel like we've spoken about this.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing crazy. I didn't really have much. I was like

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<v Speaker 2>concerned maybe people would say stuff that I could have

0:23:01.960 --> 0:23:03.159
<v Speaker 2>backed up, but I just don't want to.

0:23:03.960 --> 0:23:06.680
<v Speaker 1>I had, like, because Adelaide's very small. I had a

0:23:06.720 --> 0:23:10.639
<v Speaker 1>client come in and tell another staff member because I

0:23:10.680 --> 0:23:13.159
<v Speaker 1>said on the show that I was bullied throughout school

0:23:13.320 --> 0:23:15.119
<v Speaker 1>and no one really wanted to hang out with me.

0:23:15.560 --> 0:23:17.479
<v Speaker 1>And they were like, oh, no, that wasn't true. She

0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:19.239
<v Speaker 1>wasn't bullied at all. And I'm like, but did your

0:23:19.320 --> 0:23:20.159
<v Speaker 1>daughter hang out with me?

0:23:20.600 --> 0:23:20.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:23:21.000 --> 0:23:25.360
<v Speaker 1>Like, because bullying's not like hitting or spitting on someone.

0:23:25.240 --> 0:23:27.960
<v Speaker 3>Or like verbal elotional, Yeah, it could be.

0:23:28.000 --> 0:23:28.280
<v Speaker 2>For me.

0:23:28.320 --> 0:23:30.680
<v Speaker 3>It was just I wasn't included at anything.

0:23:30.800 --> 0:23:34.200
<v Speaker 2>That's still bullying to me. It's actively leaving people out exactly.

0:23:34.400 --> 0:23:36.600
<v Speaker 2>It's bullying because I was purely different.

0:23:36.800 --> 0:23:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was in a school with all Caucasians Italians.

0:23:40.119 --> 0:23:42.360
<v Speaker 1>And Greeks, and I was the Asian one out, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was constantly left out.

0:23:44.359 --> 0:23:45.199
<v Speaker 3>To me, that's bullying.

0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:51.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Obviously a big part of the show is that

0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:53.600
<v Speaker 2>you have to give away your Instagram for like six months,

0:23:53.600 --> 0:23:56.120
<v Speaker 2>and it is tough, like you're not meant to use socials,

0:23:56.160 --> 0:23:59.879
<v Speaker 2>you're not meant to be on monitoring anything, and I

0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:02.280
<v Speaker 2>think people unaware of what the process is, so we

0:24:02.320 --> 0:24:07.000
<v Speaker 2>wanted to just go into that. So obviously the show

0:24:07.040 --> 0:24:10.800
<v Speaker 2>airs in January, goes to like April time. That whole

0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:13.720
<v Speaker 2>period until even about May, you have no access to

0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:19.240
<v Speaker 2>your Instagram whatsoever. And that is like for posts posts,

0:24:19.280 --> 0:24:21.480
<v Speaker 2>you literally get a folder of images I don't know

0:24:21.480 --> 0:24:24.600
<v Speaker 2>if this is a sexual the drop off and with

0:24:24.720 --> 0:24:30.600
<v Speaker 2>the most hideous, heinous pictures, and then you've got to

0:24:30.640 --> 0:24:33.399
<v Speaker 2>like write a caption and and they approved, and they

0:24:33.440 --> 0:24:36.399
<v Speaker 2>approved the passion and then post for you. Did you

0:24:36.440 --> 0:24:39.879
<v Speaker 2>have anything that wasn't approved? Anything any like the thing

0:24:39.920 --> 0:24:40.920
<v Speaker 2>that you try to live?

0:24:40.920 --> 0:24:44.200
<v Speaker 3>There a few funny captions. I can't remember it now.

0:24:44.520 --> 0:24:47.360
<v Speaker 2>I had a really funny one of the iconic photos

0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:50.240
<v Speaker 2>of my face looking really displeased at a dinner table

0:24:50.680 --> 0:24:53.280
<v Speaker 2>and the caption I wanted to go with was me

0:24:53.480 --> 0:24:56.280
<v Speaker 2>every time Harrison speaks, and they said it was bullying

0:24:56.280 --> 0:24:59.360
<v Speaker 2>because I wasn't allowed to do that. So to change

0:24:59.359 --> 0:25:01.639
<v Speaker 2>it to like when I hear the word gaslight or something,

0:25:02.600 --> 0:25:04.000
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, oh dude, that would have been

0:25:04.080 --> 0:25:04.560
<v Speaker 2>so funny.

0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:07.080
<v Speaker 3>Literally bullying still funny though.

0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:11.439
<v Speaker 2>And when you got your account back there was like nothing,

0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:13.760
<v Speaker 2>no dms, everything had been whipe.

0:25:13.840 --> 0:25:14.800
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so you had that.

0:25:14.840 --> 0:25:17.080
<v Speaker 1>Too, Yeah, because I'm getting mixed, like.

0:25:17.200 --> 0:25:20.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I had people nothing like I had my friends

0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:22.919
<v Speaker 2>like people like like I follow and stuff message me,

0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:24.800
<v Speaker 2>but anything new was completely borne.

0:25:25.080 --> 0:25:25.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:29.080
<v Speaker 1>We had like twelve months worth of dms just wiped.

0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:30.399
<v Speaker 3>Wow some mows.

0:25:30.640 --> 0:25:32.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's crazy.

0:25:33.119 --> 0:25:35.600
<v Speaker 1>What's crazy because I was running my business through my

0:25:35.720 --> 0:25:38.320
<v Speaker 1>Instagram as well, so I had clients messaging me, so

0:25:38.359 --> 0:25:40.680
<v Speaker 1>they probably thought like, what a rude bitch.

0:25:40.840 --> 0:25:42.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, I think that's something to keep in mind

0:25:42.760 --> 0:25:44.719
<v Speaker 2>as well. If you are going to do maths, if

0:25:44.760 --> 0:25:46.920
<v Speaker 2>you run your business, which I would feel like ninety

0:25:47.200 --> 0:25:49.920
<v Speaker 2>businesses these days are on social media, that is something

0:25:49.960 --> 0:25:53.480
<v Speaker 2>to factor in because you don't you literally don't have access. Yeh.

0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:57.480
<v Speaker 1>But that's the freaking frustrating thing about this cast. Because

0:25:57.520 --> 0:26:00.639
<v Speaker 1>they have gone like rogue. Yeah, some of them haven't

0:26:00.640 --> 0:26:02.879
<v Speaker 1>even handed their instagrams over and I'm.

0:26:02.760 --> 0:26:03.840
<v Speaker 3>Like, that's not fucking fair.

0:26:04.160 --> 0:26:05.919
<v Speaker 2>But did you not get the choice to opt in

0:26:05.960 --> 0:26:08.320
<v Speaker 2>and opt out? No? Okay, So I don't know if

0:26:08.359 --> 0:26:10.920
<v Speaker 2>people know this as well. When you sign your contract,

0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:14.000
<v Speaker 2>so you have your your contributor contract, which is your

0:26:14.040 --> 0:26:16.639
<v Speaker 2>agreement to do the show, and then you have a

0:26:17.040 --> 0:26:20.240
<v Speaker 2>social media with nine contract that you can either choose

0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:22.200
<v Speaker 2>to do or not choose to do. So I don't

0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:23.639
<v Speaker 2>know if it's the same thing, but you have to

0:26:23.640 --> 0:26:25.160
<v Speaker 2>opt in to do that, and that's your opting into

0:26:25.160 --> 0:26:27.800
<v Speaker 2>giving your passwords, your logins, all of that. You can

0:26:27.800 --> 0:26:30.280
<v Speaker 2>also you don't have to do that. Feel like your

0:26:30.280 --> 0:26:33.720
<v Speaker 2>hand's a bit forced personally, but you actually if you

0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:35.080
<v Speaker 2>don't want to do it, you don't have to. They'd

0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:40.440
<v Speaker 2>force you given an option really like give us your password,

0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:41.400
<v Speaker 2>what's your email?

0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:46.720
<v Speaker 1>We're gaining access now, and people like forever. Basically that's

0:26:46.880 --> 0:26:48.880
<v Speaker 1>so crazy. Forever, yeah, because.

0:26:48.720 --> 0:26:51.760
<v Speaker 2>Maybe if I think back, I probably wouldn't have given access,

0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:54.440
<v Speaker 2>but you still aren't allowed to use it anyway, so

0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:57.879
<v Speaker 2>you can't leverage off it. But you don't have to.

0:26:58.040 --> 0:27:00.000
<v Speaker 2>But I do feel like you're then at a disadvantage

0:27:00.520 --> 0:27:04.359
<v Speaker 2>of getting that publicity if that's what you want. But

0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:06.760
<v Speaker 2>I guess with the people that specifically have said no,

0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:09.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't think they're sticking around for very long. So

0:27:09.119 --> 0:27:10.760
<v Speaker 2>I feel like they just don't think the value in

0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:12.720
<v Speaker 2>their account away which respect to.

0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Be honest, true, And I guess the main reason of

0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:18.200
<v Speaker 1>why they don't want what they say that they take

0:27:18.240 --> 0:27:21.720
<v Speaker 1>away accesses because they don't want you to leave any storylines,

0:27:22.119 --> 0:27:25.359
<v Speaker 1>go on your story and go on rampages and like hate.

0:27:26.080 --> 0:27:29.800
<v Speaker 2>They also say the hate things. Don't really monitor the

0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:32.160
<v Speaker 2>comments on the maths account, so you're letting me set

0:27:32.200 --> 0:27:34.919
<v Speaker 2>me on there, but not on ours anyway, to have

0:27:34.960 --> 0:27:40.359
<v Speaker 2>good engagement stimularly want to take our engagement. Yes, speaking

0:27:40.440 --> 0:27:44.200
<v Speaker 2>producers getting involved in the drama, do you recall any

0:27:44.840 --> 0:27:47.399
<v Speaker 2>incident or any time during the show that you felt

0:27:47.440 --> 0:27:51.280
<v Speaker 2>like you were being not coached, but kind of encouraged

0:27:51.359 --> 0:27:54.400
<v Speaker 2>to be a part of the situation or to speak up,

0:27:54.440 --> 0:27:56.119
<v Speaker 2>any kind of thing like that that you recall.

0:27:56.480 --> 0:28:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I love my producer. I had Kate, Oh, he's subsessed,

0:28:02.800 --> 0:28:05.679
<v Speaker 1>And it just got to a point with filming where

0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:10.520
<v Speaker 1>we weren't getting much from Cody, and she was like, guys,

0:28:10.680 --> 0:28:13.520
<v Speaker 1>it's the dinner party, Like do me proud, Like get

0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:15.360
<v Speaker 1>involved in it, you know, have a little bit more

0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:18.440
<v Speaker 1>of a say, you guys know what's going on now,

0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:20.560
<v Speaker 1>come on, get involved a little bit doomy proud. So

0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:26.479
<v Speaker 1>then when that this was the week that the photo scanned,

0:28:28.000 --> 0:28:33.159
<v Speaker 1>that is why Cody upon himself to just blurt out.

0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:34.840
<v Speaker 3>That you had seen the photo.

0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:39.640
<v Speaker 1>I remember, right, terrible, terrible timing, especially when I said

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 1>to him, Okay, I understand that Kate said that, but

0:28:42.200 --> 0:28:43.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm your partner.

0:28:43.560 --> 0:28:44.000
<v Speaker 2>I want to.

0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Speak to Don personally first and have a one on

0:28:46.680 --> 0:28:49.520
<v Speaker 1>one chat. Please leave it to me. He then took

0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:53.800
<v Speaker 1>it upon himself to then tell the whole table the worst.

0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:54.400
<v Speaker 2>Time, the worst.

0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:57.280
<v Speaker 3>So that's why that happened, because we got out.

0:28:57.400 --> 0:29:00.600
<v Speaker 2>Did yeah, push to do it?

0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:04.840
<v Speaker 1>I pushed, but she she wasn't even saying to do that.

0:29:04.920 --> 0:29:07.200
<v Speaker 1>She was just saying to get involved in more, to speak.

0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:07.960
<v Speaker 3>Up a little bit more.

0:29:08.200 --> 0:29:09.200
<v Speaker 2>So you know, we were just.

0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:10.520
<v Speaker 3>Kind of just mellowing out.

0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:16.960
<v Speaker 2>How funny. I remember when I at a commitment ceremony.

0:29:17.080 --> 0:29:19.600
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't that I wasn't allowed to do it, but

0:29:19.680 --> 0:29:23.360
<v Speaker 2>there was a storyline that obviously I'd kind of identified

0:29:23.680 --> 0:29:26.760
<v Speaker 2>during filming, and it was between a listena and her husband,

0:29:27.280 --> 0:29:29.960
<v Speaker 2>and it was at a commitment ceremony where it's a

0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 2>pretty famous commitment ceremony of her like kind of storming out.

0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:36.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm a child, that kind of thing, and I remember

0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:38.360
<v Speaker 2>when she had stormed out, like I ran after her.

0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:40.200
<v Speaker 2>I think it was me. I can remember the other

0:29:40.240 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 2>girls that did, and we were like, what the hell's

0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 2>going on, Like I think you're being misunderstood here, and

0:29:45.800 --> 0:29:48.840
<v Speaker 2>like it was really tricky because when we watched that

0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:50.880
<v Speaker 2>back it was completely different to how it played out.

0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:52.760
<v Speaker 2>And then when they played it out, it looked like

0:29:52.800 --> 0:29:54.200
<v Speaker 2>none of the girls went after her and just her

0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:56.800
<v Speaker 2>partner did, and it was like, dude, so it looks

0:29:56.800 --> 0:29:58.240
<v Speaker 2>like she had nobody to back her up and nobody

0:29:58.320 --> 0:30:00.120
<v Speaker 2>believed her and nobody was on her side when it

0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 2>was just not the case. And we were all like,

0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 2>this is not what we're seeing. And that was really

0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:07.840
<v Speaker 2>disappointing because I felt like, yeah, I was. I was

0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:09.760
<v Speaker 2>literally screaming up by the produce, get back inside, get

0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 2>back inside. But then like when he went out, he

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:13.920
<v Speaker 2>was allowed to go and like chat with her. Then

0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:15.760
<v Speaker 2>it was like her storming away in the elevator and

0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:19.600
<v Speaker 2>I was like, well, yeah, you strategically wanted that specific

0:30:19.640 --> 0:30:22.360
<v Speaker 2>scene and the girls were there being like, oh my god,

0:30:22.360 --> 0:30:24.440
<v Speaker 2>are you okay? And there was not we weren't allowed

0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:28.080
<v Speaker 2>to do that. Wow, So that like stuff like that,

0:30:28.200 --> 0:30:31.360
<v Speaker 2>I really was like, Okay, they obviously have they made

0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:32.960
<v Speaker 2>their mind up with what they want to be shown,

0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:37.160
<v Speaker 2>and that obviously was to her disadvantage. But it's fine.

0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:42.480
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I loved my producers and I loved the

0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:44.360
<v Speaker 2>experience I had with them. I didn't feel like I

0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:48.080
<v Speaker 2>was pressured to doing anything that I wasn't comfortable with.

0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:50.480
<v Speaker 2>There was only at the end where I felt like

0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:52.600
<v Speaker 2>they were really trying to pressure me to say like

0:30:52.720 --> 0:30:54.840
<v Speaker 2>I love you on camera, and it just wasn't something

0:30:55.440 --> 0:30:58.479
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to do. Okay, even though we had said it,

0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:00.880
<v Speaker 2>we just didn't want to Like it's like, we've given

0:31:00.880 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 2>everything to these people, have something special for ourselves.

0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 3>I love that.

0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:07.040
<v Speaker 2>And that's the only time I really ever felt like

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:10.720
<v Speaker 2>they were pressuring me to say something. But I yeah,

0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:12.400
<v Speaker 2>I loved my producer. Do you speak to yours? Still?

0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:15.280
<v Speaker 1>I got her a present and everything at the reunion,

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:18.840
<v Speaker 1>and I never really heard back. I got one email

0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:21.680
<v Speaker 1>afterwards the Sacon than of the gift, and then that's it.

0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:23.160
<v Speaker 3>Oh did you ever hear back?

0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:24.760
<v Speaker 2>I always speak to my producers. I had a few

0:31:24.760 --> 0:31:27.360
<v Speaker 2>of them. Yeah, I have on Instagram chat always like

0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:30.440
<v Speaker 2>seeing what they're up to. Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:33.160
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I really you obviously spend a lot

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:34.720
<v Speaker 2>of time with your partner, but the next people is

0:31:34.760 --> 0:31:37.040
<v Speaker 2>your producer. Like you don't want to spend time with

0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:39.520
<v Speaker 2>each other, so it's really your partner and your producer.

0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:40.680
<v Speaker 2>So there's one.

0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:43.240
<v Speaker 1>Question that I really want to ask all our guests

0:31:43.240 --> 0:31:47.560
<v Speaker 1>this season is was there anything that happened that didn't

0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:49.960
<v Speaker 1>go to air that you really want to talk about?

0:31:50.760 --> 0:31:50.840
<v Speaker 2>So?

0:31:51.000 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Was there anything that happened with you that didn't go

0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:53.800
<v Speaker 1>to air that happened?

0:31:54.120 --> 0:31:57.080
<v Speaker 2>So there was actually two things that I wish was shown,

0:31:57.200 --> 0:31:59.240
<v Speaker 2>just because I feel like it would make things a

0:31:59.320 --> 0:32:04.280
<v Speaker 2>little bit more sense just after the fact. Okay, So

0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:07.880
<v Speaker 2>on the honeymoon, which I'm sure every couple did you

0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:11.120
<v Speaker 2>get an honesty box. Majority of this is not shown,

0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:13.240
<v Speaker 2>but I feel like they pick and choose what it's shown.

0:32:13.720 --> 0:32:16.560
<v Speaker 2>And we had had a box, and it was you

0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:18.479
<v Speaker 2>had to answer in the order that the producer game

0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:20.120
<v Speaker 2>into you. You couldn't. You had to just do it

0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:24.080
<v Speaker 2>exactly follow the instructions. So get it. Get the question

0:32:24.680 --> 0:32:27.160
<v Speaker 2>have you ever cheated on a partner before? So I

0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:29.400
<v Speaker 2>go on a rampage about how no, I haven't, and

0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:31.160
<v Speaker 2>how I think it's really weak when people do this

0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:33.400
<v Speaker 2>and I'm really against it. Da da da, on this

0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:36.800
<v Speaker 2>whole thing about how I think it's like unacceptable. So

0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:40.840
<v Speaker 2>my partner again and I was like, have you ever

0:32:40.920 --> 0:32:44.200
<v Speaker 2>cheated an a partner before? His answer was yes, And

0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:48.560
<v Speaker 2>I was like fuming because in my application, the one

0:32:48.680 --> 0:32:51.400
<v Speaker 2>thing in my non negotiables was I didn't want a cheater.

0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:54.120
<v Speaker 2>That was literally so many times one thing I didn't want.

0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:56.320
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, I just think cheaters are always

0:32:56.320 --> 0:32:58.320
<v Speaker 2>going to be cheaters. You don't change. And I just

0:32:58.360 --> 0:32:59.680
<v Speaker 2>feel like if you can do that once, you can

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<v Speaker 2>do it again. I just that's how I feel. And

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<v Speaker 2>I was like crush, and I just kind of sat

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<v Speaker 2>there like I felt a bit stitched up.

0:33:07.880 --> 0:33:11.600
<v Speaker 1>I was like, right, okay, was showing any formal remorse,

0:33:11.680 --> 0:33:12.760
<v Speaker 1>Like did he feel bad?

0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:16.560
<v Speaker 2>Yes? I think he felt bad. He tried to justify

0:33:16.560 --> 0:33:18.720
<v Speaker 2>why he did it, which I think the reason was worse,

0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:20.320
<v Speaker 2>but I'm not going to share it because it's like

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<v Speaker 2>personal to her. And I was like, that's just made

0:33:24.200 --> 0:33:27.760
<v Speaker 2>it worse, and I was like, okay, and he kind

0:33:27.760 --> 0:33:29.600
<v Speaker 2>of reassured me that he wouldn't do that to me,

0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:31.959
<v Speaker 2>which doesn't really mean anything to me because I'm like,

0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:35.680
<v Speaker 2>he've done it once. So I was a bit rattled

0:33:35.680 --> 0:33:36.920
<v Speaker 2>after that, and I was kind of like, oh, I

0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:38.400
<v Speaker 2>don't really know how I feel like it was something

0:33:38.440 --> 0:33:41.400
<v Speaker 2>I was like trying to get over. Then when we

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:44.959
<v Speaker 2>fast forward, which ties in when we did which you

0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:46.720
<v Speaker 2>didn't have to do, we had to do the couple

0:33:46.800 --> 0:33:52.000
<v Speaker 2>swap and has been the stupidest challenge of all that's history, honestly,

0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:55.000
<v Speaker 2>and we had to go stay with another partner for

0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:58.560
<v Speaker 2>three nights and get perspective. I think was the justification

0:33:58.680 --> 0:34:02.760
<v Speaker 2>the experts time, and I remember vividly producers coming in

0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:05.040
<v Speaker 2>the room with me and Rupert being like, you're not

0:34:05.080 --> 0:34:06.840
<v Speaker 2>allowed to talk to your partner for these three days.

0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 2>If you're you're gonna get in trouble by the experts,

0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:10.880
<v Speaker 2>follow the instructions you know, allowed, you know, allowed to

0:34:10.920 --> 0:34:13.160
<v Speaker 2>do that. So I'm like major rule follower and I

0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:15.600
<v Speaker 2>know you are too, and I was like, yeah, sweet,

0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:18.319
<v Speaker 2>that's fine, Like I won't talk to him. The thing

0:34:18.360 --> 0:34:20.319
<v Speaker 2>that wigged us out was that we were like I

0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:22.680
<v Speaker 2>felt like they were like recording us because we were talking

0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:25.920
<v Speaker 2>about like messaging our partners, and then they stormed in

0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:28.000
<v Speaker 2>right after that, and I was like, dude, I think

0:34:28.000 --> 0:34:29.440
<v Speaker 2>they're listening to what was saying.

0:34:29.680 --> 0:34:31.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so we were get out of the room.

0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:33.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like we were like looking for Mike's in the room.

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:35.680
<v Speaker 2>I have a video of me like recording him looking

0:34:35.680 --> 0:34:39.640
<v Speaker 2>in the roof and stuff. Meanwhile, he's then being told

0:34:39.640 --> 0:34:42.480
<v Speaker 2>in his head, hey, why don't you think Chinese message you?

0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:45.279
<v Speaker 2>Do you think she's cheating on you? And then they

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 2>really played up that whole cheating narrative with me potentially

0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:51.239
<v Speaker 2>doing it. And then we had a huge blow up

0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:53.319
<v Speaker 2>when I came back from that because he was just

0:34:53.360 --> 0:34:56.000
<v Speaker 2>being weird with me and I didn't really understand why,

0:34:56.040 --> 0:34:58.359
<v Speaker 2>and he was obviously insecurity around that because he had

0:34:58.400 --> 0:34:59.800
<v Speaker 2>done it. So I think if you've done something, you

0:34:59.800 --> 0:35:02.520
<v Speaker 2>can assumed someone's gonna do it to you. And it

0:35:02.640 --> 0:35:05.160
<v Speaker 2>was like a huge fight, like I like was I

0:35:05.200 --> 0:35:06.360
<v Speaker 2>was going to go. I was like, I'm done, I

0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:07.719
<v Speaker 2>don't want to be here anymore. I'm going to go

0:35:07.760 --> 0:35:09.799
<v Speaker 2>back to my apartment in Bondi. And then I wanted

0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:11.480
<v Speaker 2>to say another room. They wouldn't give me another room.

0:35:11.520 --> 0:35:13.000
<v Speaker 2>I was like, well, I'm leaving. You can't stop me.

0:35:13.000 --> 0:35:14.959
<v Speaker 2>It was a full thing, and I ended up staying

0:35:15.000 --> 0:35:18.400
<v Speaker 2>in another room and it was really it was like

0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:20.600
<v Speaker 2>really bad, and it kind of was just like, why

0:35:20.640 --> 0:35:22.360
<v Speaker 2>is he acting like this and being weird to me?

0:35:22.920 --> 0:35:25.880
<v Speaker 2>At the commitment ceremony, none of that was shown, so

0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:28.320
<v Speaker 2>none of the fight. That commitment ceremony is so weird

0:35:28.320 --> 0:35:30.680
<v Speaker 2>to watch back because they didn't touch on that. I

0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:32.839
<v Speaker 2>sat there with the experts and I was like, I'm

0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:35.000
<v Speaker 2>struggling with the x y Z and they just like

0:35:35.080 --> 0:35:39.600
<v Speaker 2>ignored my questions, didn't really like help me through whatever

0:35:39.680 --> 0:35:42.600
<v Speaker 2>that was. And then because it was cut out, so

0:35:43.160 --> 0:35:45.160
<v Speaker 2>none of that was shown, and no one really understood

0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:48.719
<v Speaker 2>why we had the fight, and that whole the whole

0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:50.640
<v Speaker 2>sequence of how that went down didn't make sense, and

0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:52.680
<v Speaker 2>I think people were confused with why he was upset,

0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:54.560
<v Speaker 2>why he felt a type of way, and why there

0:35:54.600 --> 0:35:57.440
<v Speaker 2>was this vibe between us because there was all these

0:35:57.480 --> 0:36:02.360
<v Speaker 2>things that could have been unpacked more that weren't, And

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:06.239
<v Speaker 2>I think it's hard on the show because people are

0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:09.840
<v Speaker 2>always going to believe what happened is that's it. So

0:36:09.880 --> 0:36:13.000
<v Speaker 2>it's really hard coming off, which I think we've both

0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:16.480
<v Speaker 2>been lucky. We didn't really have anything too difficult to overcome.

0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:19.000
<v Speaker 2>But I think if you've been shown in a certain way,

0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:23.760
<v Speaker 2>it's really really hard to justify or explain yourself after

0:36:23.760 --> 0:36:25.600
<v Speaker 2>the fact because people are going to believe what they saw.

0:36:26.480 --> 0:36:28.279
<v Speaker 2>So I think that did make things difficult for me

0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:31.480
<v Speaker 2>moving forward, but it just also just made more sense.

0:36:31.520 --> 0:36:32.960
<v Speaker 2>It was the only fight we had, and they just

0:36:33.080 --> 0:36:34.600
<v Speaker 2>chose not to show it when it would have just

0:36:34.640 --> 0:36:37.239
<v Speaker 2>given more context to what a real relationship might look

0:36:37.360 --> 0:36:38.719
<v Speaker 2>like and just understandings.

0:36:39.360 --> 0:36:41.680
<v Speaker 1>I just felt like, you guys just didn't get much

0:36:41.719 --> 0:36:46.600
<v Speaker 1>airtime at all. I wanted you to be that cute, yeah,

0:36:46.760 --> 0:36:48.080
<v Speaker 1>funny couple, which.

0:36:47.840 --> 0:36:50.760
<v Speaker 2>I think I'm in hindsight, I'm very happy and glad about.

0:36:51.239 --> 0:36:54.000
<v Speaker 2>But it was. Yeah, the whole experience is just so

0:36:54.160 --> 0:36:56.840
<v Speaker 2>bizarre when you think back. It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>The wrap for our first episode so fun c I

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<v Speaker 1>love this new era.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so excited. I can't wait to be chatting. Each

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<v Speaker 2>week we're going to be bringing you all your favorite

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be so fun, so much fun.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been so fun, so fun this season. Same. Bye guys,

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<v Speaker 2>see you next week. Bye,