1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Magic Grab begin on Fox League. 2 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 2: Oh then. 3 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 3: Every game live and ad bream. 4 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: Look at that club who check bread now shut back 5 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 2: check shut up buck. 6 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to three sixty League from every angle. Wats you 7 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: by n ib joining me again, James Graham, that's bring 8 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: the Journato Australian Brent Reid and Dave Riccio. Magic Round 9 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: only a few days away. You can't wait for it. 10 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: You're heading up there, Jimmy. Are You're gonna be pretty 11 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: busy up there? Really looking forward to it. Breath you 12 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: spoke about last night, so we'll come to you ready. 13 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: What do you think. 14 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 4: I'm pumped pumped Bomb, look forward to that Manly Brisbane 15 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 4: game of Friday Night. Bro Brisbane going well, Manly Batley 16 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 4: a bit, a few players out, so I'm looking forward 17 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 4: to that one. 18 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 5: It's a great advertisement for the game, isn't it go? 19 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 2: Because the drags those fans in that don't get the 20 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,279 Speaker 2: opportunity to see a game of footy or let alone 21 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 2: a weekend of footing. 22 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 5: Huge promotion for the game. 23 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 2: Rooster Sharks for me Brath, that're just another great test, 24 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: a top four battle, great test for the Sharks. 25 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 5: Good to see what the Roosters a. 26 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: Little bit later to Nico Hines. Maybe in Dowd Again, 27 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: I'm not sure I read something I remember. We'll delve 28 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: a little deeper into that. But there is some big 29 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: news coming out of Canberra, Dave, can you fill us in. 30 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's significant news. 31 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: If you're a Raiders fan, I can tell you that 32 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 2: Ricky Stewart the unofficial King of Canberra. He is poised 33 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: to sign a new contract extension through until twenty twenty nine. 34 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 2: Now he was on contract guys twenty nine. Yeah, he 35 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: was on contract next year twenty twenty five. And my 36 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: understanding is that they're going to push it out through 37 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 2: until twenty twenty nine. It is built around the current 38 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 2: process that the club is going through where they're trying 39 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: to develop and generate a new next gen player through 40 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 2: and you have the youngster Xavier Savage, obviously Ethan Strange, 41 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: Chevy Stewart. They want Ricky to be there to show 42 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 2: these guys the way through over the next four to 43 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 2: five years. And I understand the deal will be announced 44 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: within the next twenty four to forty eight hours. 45 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 6: They've signed the young kid from Paramatta as well. 46 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 7: How good is Ricky Stewart to watch down on the 47 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 7: sideline as a coach in the NRL that shows as 48 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 7: much passion as this person. It's like he rides or 49 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,679 Speaker 7: he's involved in every tackle, He's in every hit or 50 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 7: up and down that sideline. 51 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: Thankfully he's recommitted. 52 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 7: To canber He's such a passionate person, someone I really 53 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 7: like to watch. 54 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 6: He's not just the coach in Cambra either is him. 55 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 4: He's part of the community down there, does a lot 56 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 4: of charity work and they love him in Canberra and 57 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 4: I was obviously got a close relationship with officials, areas 58 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 4: good mates with Donnie Ferner, the CEO. I think Ricky's 59 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 4: done a great job in regenerating that side with those 60 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 4: young signings. 61 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 2: Dave. 62 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's done a great job. He is mister Cambra, 63 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: there's no doubt about that. But he's only won one 64 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: premiership in his career and that's. 65 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 6: A long deal. 66 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: Is it a bit odd to sign a long deal 67 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: like that. I know it's Ricky Stewart, but most coaches 68 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: are defined by success. 69 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 5: Yeah. 70 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 2: Look, I think I think it's to what Reedy speaks 71 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 2: about Braith, and that is if you are I'm not 72 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 2: meaning this to be detrimental to Canberra, but you need 73 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 2: a significant head coach with profile at that football club 74 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 2: to not only attract talent, but to keep talent, and 75 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 2: they've done a good job of that in recent seasons. 76 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 5: And Ready's right. 77 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 2: He has a lot of power and influence down in Canberra, 78 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 2: but also too he helps put Canbra on the map 79 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 2: in an NRL environment. He has conduits throughout the game, 80 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 2: he can pick up the phone to the NRL and 81 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 2: that is the power of Ricky Stewart, which I think 82 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: is the Canbra club needs. 83 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 6: I think it's different. 84 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 4: We've spoken about Brad Arthline has shown going eleven years 85 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 4: without when you're a premiership and we said the Brad 86 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 4: should be under pressure and people have responded under that 87 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 4: you on social media media they say what it Wasn't 88 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 4: Ricky under the same pressure. And I think the clubs 89 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 4: are different. I think the situations are different. I don't 90 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 4: think you can compare Canbra to Paramatta, Canbra to the Roosters. 91 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 4: I think they're different clubs and I think what Ricky 92 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 4: means to that community goes hand in glove with coaching 93 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 4: the footy team. I think it's a different scenario so 94 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 4: you know, I think Ricky deserves a longer deal down there. 95 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: And he's done a goodjole with them this year. I 96 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: just thought the question had to be asked for reason, 97 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: question about reason, because a lot of fans to ask 98 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: the question and they want to know why. So I 99 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: tell Shirt top story. Calm Ponger's future with the Knights 100 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: has been questioned after reports the NL was looking into 101 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: a potential salary cap breach involving the super Star Fullback Boys. 102 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: What the hell is going on? There is mud and 103 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: a strange set of events over the past couple of days. 104 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: Can one of you guys talk us through. Well, I'll 105 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: come to you because you're good mates with Kaylen and 106 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: he's dad. You've had a long standing relationship. You cheated 107 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: on Melbourne with. 108 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 5: It gets around it. 109 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 4: Well. 110 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 6: I think this started basically. 111 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 4: Started as an issue over ratrit clauses in the contract, 112 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 4: and I think the Pond camp we're looking for some 113 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 4: clarity around the ratic clauser in Karlen's contract. I think 114 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 4: they were concerned he wasn't being paid what he should 115 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 4: have been paid, and that got explained to who was concerned. 116 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 4: I think Andre because he doesn't have a sure spoke 117 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 4: to the NRL. 118 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 7: Surely that's just simple mathematics. So right, if you if 119 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 7: you are a percentage of the pie, I either salary 120 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 7: cap that say, let's for arguments, ten percent, and that 121 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,799 Speaker 7: cap is ten million, and that grows to say twelve 122 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 7: million's still ten percent. 123 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: It was not that difficult to figure out. 124 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 4: It was a bit different, that is, over the term 125 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 4: of this deal, James, because the cap went up by 126 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 4: a certain amount, but then the minimum waves went up 127 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 4: and it affected the percentages. 128 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: And anyway, he just wanted to do for Karlin any 129 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 1: other party. 130 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 4: Well, I think he just wanted some clarity, right, not 131 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 4: every player's got a ratt clause breath as well, and 132 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 4: he's gone significant money. 133 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: I would say a lot at clauses, so a lot too. 134 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, well his father wanted some clarity around that. 135 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,799 Speaker 1: But then the NL went into the NL. I believe 136 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to paint a picture in. 137 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 6: The process of this. 138 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 4: Obviously there's become an issue over a third party that 139 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 4: allegedly wasn't paid and it's mind Steining that's now been 140 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 4: paid and I think the NRL, it's been said the 141 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 4: NIALS invested on in the third party payment. 142 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 6: That's not right. 143 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 4: That's not an aneral issue because it was a long 144 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 4: standing deal of the NURL approved four years ago, and 145 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 4: the NRL's basically said, that's not our issue. That's an 146 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 4: arms Link deal. We've already given up. The green light 147 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 4: is so very common in the game. You need to 148 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 4: solve that with the person who's not the deal. 149 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: The NRL's jurisdiction. 150 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 4: It's not the animal's jurisdiction unless there's something untowards. 151 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 1: Why did he go to the nl with that? Then? 152 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 4: Well, I just think of the process of those talks 153 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 4: have got raised breath. 154 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: There was obviously there was, see not many. What I'm 155 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: trying to say is is it not many as let 156 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: alone dads, if he's an acting agent as his father 157 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: go to the NRL to seek clarification on something so 158 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: simple as a ratchet clause, which you are trying to 159 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: say he's complicated, is not. Every agent in the game 160 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: knows it, and half of the NRL, Well, if you 161 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: want to act as an agent, you should know that, and 162 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: half of the NRL actually are on that actual cause. 163 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: Then to throw in that there's a third party unpaid 164 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: is very unusual and it's not the Nerall's problem. So 165 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: I think the question I'm trying to get to here 166 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: is was it deliberate to go in there and ruffle 167 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: some feathers or was there was he actually concerned about 168 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: the payment. 169 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 4: We probably wanted to get paid and it's worked because 170 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 4: apparent he has been paid. 171 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:45,239 Speaker 1: So Newcastle feel about that well. 172 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 4: I think Newcut it's a funny club break because there's 173 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 4: people at that club who work behind the scenes, who 174 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 4: don't un official role with that football club, who are 175 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,679 Speaker 4: involved with the footy club and what they're not officially 176 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 4: with the club, they are involved with the club that 177 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 4: in some instances such as this one, they pay third parties. 178 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 4: So I think within the club there's certain figures who 179 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 4: find this all a bit hard to deal with happy 180 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 4: about it. 181 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: There's lots of clubs that would would operad. 182 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 5: Not like this. 183 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 4: Jim, I don't know that I've ever I've ever come 184 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 4: across the situation like this where there's a person at 185 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 4: that club who basically acts as the right hand of 186 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 4: Phil Gardner, who's the CEO, and has no official role 187 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 4: with in the football club, yet there's also paying third 188 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 4: parties to the players, as in this case. 189 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: I just look at this and think, is there a 190 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: bit of conspiracy and conspiracy theories around this? Like is 191 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: it deliberate to try and you know, is he happy there? Klin? 192 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: Is his dad happy there? Is he trying to try 193 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: and get out of this contract? 194 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 6: Is he not? 195 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: Because it is unusual and it has to be said. 196 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 2: Well, but before all the viewers fall asleep, I'm trying 197 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 2: to understand ratchet clauses and Pythagris's theorem and signed cos 198 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 2: and ten and understand I explained that that is the 199 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 2: only thing that matters to Newcastle Knights fans. What is 200 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 2: the implications of this story, and that is is Calin 201 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 2: Pong going to be at the Knights or not? And 202 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 2: to your point breath conspiracy, that's certainly. It's certainly been 203 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 2: asked internally at the Knights, who, as you said, there 204 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 2: are armed length from this whole drama. They're wondering, hang 205 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: on a second, is something more at play here. I've 206 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 2: made inquiries today with rival clubs to sit and those 207 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 2: inquiries led to no. 208 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: Look rich clubs Roosters because you said clubs one sorry, right. 209 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 2: Because and I spoke to the Roosters about their forward 210 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 2: planning okay, and I also spoke about the head of 211 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 2: recruitment at the Roosters. It was formerly at the Knights 212 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 2: and formerly at the Cowboys, has a close relationship to 213 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 2: Kaylin and so I made some inquiries to the Roosters, 214 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 2: of which they said not even on our radar. 215 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 5: Didn't even know about. 216 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 2: As far as forward planning post James to desk go, 217 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 2: So it's not on the Rooster's radar. You talk to 218 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 2: the Knights and certainly they thought, hang on a say, 219 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 2: is there some funny business a year about Calum being unhappy? 220 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 2: That's been put to bed. He's not unhappy at all, 221 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 2: happy to be there. 222 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 7: Well, if he does aggregate aggrav eighth rather for a release, 223 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 7: then the Knights have to take the same stance as 224 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 7: the Dragons with ben Hunt. 225 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: They have to if. 226 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 7: He's contracted till twenty twenty seven, there's no way they 227 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 7: can allow him to just walk out the door. 228 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 4: I don't think he's agitating for I think he's happy there. 229 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 4: I think every sign of seems that he's happy there. 230 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 4: He just wants his dad just wanted him to get 231 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 4: the money with Oude and turns out he's seem odd though. 232 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 7: The fact that he would, you know, knock on the 233 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 7: NRL's door or phone the NRL and ask for clarification 234 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 7: because it's that they don't hold the keys to the answer. 235 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, well he probably wasn't aware of that. 236 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: So believable. We won't hear a word about this again. 237 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:02,719 Speaker 1: That's it, it's done. 238 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 4: We wouldn't go that far. Bro Oh, well, don this 239 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 4: stuff works. I mean one starts rattling the cave. 240 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: You said it was all good, and you're saying you 241 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: know how this stuff works. 242 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 4: Well, I'm just saying I can't sit here and tell 243 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 4: you we won't hear any more about this. I'm not 244 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 4: saying in so far as Kalin's consumed potentially leaving the club. 245 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 6: I'm talking about. 246 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: So Newcastle fans should be at home, very comfortable in 247 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 1: the couch right now, safe their number one player, the 248 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 1: King of Newcastle stay. 249 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 6: Well, I think he is right now. I don't think 250 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 6: what I think. No, sorry, I don't. 251 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 4: Think there's any plans for coming to leave the football club. 252 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 6: Okay, but when you. 253 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 4: Start rappling the tin like this, so we're rapping the cage, 254 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 4: who knows what falls out? 255 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: Clear as much at the start of this it's still 256 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: clear as much. Let's move on to Harry Grant fronts 257 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: to the judiciary tonight. Now we spoke about this last night. 258 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: What are his chances are getting off on this one? 259 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: I'll get your opinion first, because you guys obviously went 260 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: on last night opinion on it and what are his 261 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 1: chances are getting off it? 262 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 2: I was surprised on the incident, as both penalty and 263 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 2: sin being his concern. I didn't think there was anything 264 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 2: dangerous or untoward to what Harry Grant. I thought James 265 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 2: explained it so well last night about Harry just taking 266 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 2: the space of Atkinson. I didn't you know the referee 267 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 2: indicated that it was a case of duty of care 268 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 2: that he didn't show towards Atkinson. 269 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 5: I disagree totally. 270 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 2: However, it seems as though the NRL are attempting to 271 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 2: put a black and white rule around the protection of kicking. 272 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: Have you heard Have you guys heard this, because that's 273 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: really what we want to know. Is it black and white? Now? 274 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 4: I don't think anything in n r el's black and 275 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 4: wort these days? Browth is it with officiating? I mean 276 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 4: I can cop a penalty for it, I can live 277 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 4: with it. Because it was contact. The symbols terrible. This, Yeah, 278 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 4: but Jimmy, Harry probably could. 279 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 6: Have avoided it. 280 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 7: By not putting in the effort play of a kick pressure. 281 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 6: I prefer no penalty. 282 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 4: My preference was no penalty, but I can understand them 283 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 4: giving but the symbony was white over the top, ridiculous. 284 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 4: And you know what, I'm glad they're fording it because 285 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 4: too many clubs just copped the fine because that's the 286 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 4: easy thing to do. 287 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 7: The easy option with one thousand dollars on the line 288 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 7: is to take that. So I credit Harry Melvin Storm 289 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 7: for fighting this because this, you know, we had Bellamy 290 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 7: say about a line in the sand and. 291 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: We move on. No, no, no, we don't. We pushed back. 292 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 6: We pushed Jimmy was a never win of the. 293 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 7: There's people within the game that need to push back 294 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 7: on this and understand that we can't have big games 295 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 7: being decided by decisions like that, because there was huge 296 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 7: ramifications for the outcome of that game due to Harry 297 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 7: Grant being unfairly symbol in my opinion, and anybody that 298 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 7: watches the game would surely disagree that that shouldn't be 299 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 7: a symboony I don't think it even should be a penalty. 300 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 7: We need to push back and gain control because we 301 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 7: can't have big games being decided like that. 302 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: I agree with the Jimmy. The record of players the 303 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: judiciary hasn't been good. It's terrible. It's terrible. I'm going 304 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: to make him call I reckon. He gets off. What 305 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: do you guys think. 306 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:06,599 Speaker 5: In the in the view of the public opinion, he 307 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 5: gets off. 308 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,479 Speaker 2: But as I said, if the mandate is to eradicate 309 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 2: any touching of kickers, he's going to He's going. 310 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 5: To be found guilty. 311 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: Well, there's no common sense that the juici is because 312 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: it's a quarter you know, like we all say we 313 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: need common sense here. But probably a quarter of law 314 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: is not the best place surely to. 315 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 4: Former football, Isn't that that's what you have in the 316 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 4: juditary or former referee in a former football. Surely they 317 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 4: watch that and go you can't fall in a blake 318 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 4: for that. 319 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: Is there far play involved? No? 320 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 7: No, no, like he's been punished enough his teams. 321 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: No, I'm going all in. He gets off. Jack White 322 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: has been telling a fresh blower to Michael MacGuire's selection 323 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: headache by ruling himself out of an origin comeback. 324 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 3: I've been in chats with Imagine No. We've been trying 325 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 3: to really put a focus on keep my body together 326 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 3: for for Sousman. As everyone knows, we're in a bit 327 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 3: of a rut and my main focus is to him. 328 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 3: But there's plenty of young kids that the the Blues 329 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 3: proud and do a great job there. So every year 330 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 3: you get older, it gets harder, you know what I mean. 331 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 3: You're starting to kid yourself if your think you're just 332 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 3: going to keep on for something now. But I can 333 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 3: only focus on them now and what's happening right now, 334 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 3: and I'll sit in my position of staying retired. 335 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: So Jack White, they're not going to reverse He's a retirement. 336 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: So where does this leave New South Wales in terms 337 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: of their halves? We spoke about it again last night. 338 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: Do you guys have a different opinion? Do you have 339 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: different selections? Where are we landing in New South Wales 340 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: here with our six and seven? 341 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 6: Well, I'm concerned now breath as well. 342 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 4: Mitch Moses in the heart but he's not playing and 343 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 4: may not play next week, so that's a worry. Nicko's 344 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 4: You're I think you're a chunks today David and nicodin. 345 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 2: Very very light duties and will increase his training lad 346 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 2: as the week progresses. There's optimism that he's going to 347 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 2: play this weekend and will increases load. As I said 348 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 2: on Thursday, that's the next field session. I only kept 349 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 2: the light duty start. It was calf tightness, but guys have. 350 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 6: Got loads at depth though. 351 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 4: Louis Burton, please, you know you shouldn't be too worried. 352 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: So what you think that news? I are sitting one out, 353 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: one back at the moment. 354 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 4: He players I got to choose from doesn't play and 355 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 4: clearly isn't there. You just turned to lew I and Burton. 356 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: Who are the favorites? I'll ask you as well. I've 357 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: asked the silly question. 358 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 6: I need to ask. 359 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 5: Why are you turning to lou Ian Burton. 360 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 6: I'm saying these folks are out. 361 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 4: I'm saying there's obvious luke Key you've got and he's 362 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 4: a Queen's land of mind. 363 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: You okay, legend, who's the six and seven? Then big 364 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: Man michiganets mix. We've got plenty of choose from. If 365 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: they're out, who's the halfs if Heines and Mitchell out, 366 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: Burton and Lewis Burton LAWI six and seven. No problem 367 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: there Burton and Lewis six and seven. And I'm asked and. 368 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 6: Why well, because they're the next two in line with. 369 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: But who plays where? What? Who does what? 370 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 6: Okay, that's that's. 371 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: A difficult question. 372 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 6: How far away seven this week? 373 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: So Moses isn't playing this week? Is he anticipated? 374 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 7: So that only be an opportunity for one more game 375 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 7: against South Sydney for Paramatta next week? How likely is 376 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 7: he of taken the field? 377 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: So? 378 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 2: So with Mitch, he had a light running session yesterday. 379 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 2: He's still running in his joggers. Guys, he's not. He's 380 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 2: only doing straight line running. It's not like significant training. 381 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 2: My understanding is at least two to three sessions behind 382 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 2: the current training group on getting up to speed. 383 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: He sounds like he's in big date. I forgot you've 384 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: got thing. I forgot. 385 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 4: I forgot about the blake one man in the match 386 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 4: in game three last year, Cody Walker, So you've got him. 387 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: I forgot about That's so we waited all that time 388 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: for you to say thank you. 389 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 6: You know what? 390 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: I think? Nico Hines seems like he'll be fine right. 391 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: The other option would be probably Nicko Hines and Burton 392 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: at six. You know, that's probably where I'd lean to 393 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: more so than the other options. You know, I think 394 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: Burton's starting to find some form. Nicko Hines leading the 395 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: team around. You could go Kiriy and Height. You've played 396 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: in the halfs in Origin. Would Mitch Moses need a game? Yes, definitely, 397 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: definitely you can't. He cannot go in anyone because the 398 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: thing is Mitch. And this is no disrespecting Mitch. If 399 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 1: you're Andrew Johns, Jonathan First and Cooper Kroan, the greats, 400 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: you know that they that's different. It's different when you 401 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: minch and Yeah, he had success, he won that last game. 402 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: He's an Origin player and he could be there for 403 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: a very long time. But what's what would have been 404 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 1: eight nine weeks more more ten weeks by then without it, 405 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: without a game, just it is Origin is three times 406 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: he has to play. He has play. 407 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 5: He has to play against Sydney. 408 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 2: He has a catch to that guy is really interesting 409 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 2: because if he does play against South Sydney. To your point, 410 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 2: he said that long out, he will be super sore 411 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 2: after that first game back, right of which he then 412 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 2: has a ten day camp with the Blues, of which 413 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 2: Madge will want Mitch absolutely firing from day one. 414 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: That's a great point, Dave, because Origin training is also 415 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: three or four times harder and more intense, like it 416 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 1: is like playing a game. Yeah, so you need to 417 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: be ready for it. 418 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 5: Come. 419 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 4: That's why you guys are all putting the line through 420 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 4: Jerome Lui. No one's even given you on the only 421 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 4: bloke has read him. 422 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 2: And mention well, my concern with Jerime is that he's 423 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 2: been there and I just haven't seen that level of excellence, 424 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 2: an elite level quality in his game at the Origin 425 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 2: level to warrant for automatic selection. 426 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: More importantly, do we know what Madge thinks of Luis? 427 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 2: I understand he is his second third behind Okay bat 428 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 2: in the head of not to my understanding. 429 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 5: No, And I think to your point, Bra. 430 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: Who is there? But they have a backup plan? This 431 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: is this is the problem. 432 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 5: So I don't think they do. They don't, I don't 433 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 5: think they do. 434 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: Sure, please your you can. 435 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 2: Sure you can have your pecking order, but not a 436 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 2: backup plan, because how can you pick the team when 437 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 2: they're dropping like flies? 438 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 5: What's to say, Hines or whatever happens this weekend? 439 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: So it is little wife of any line though if 440 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: there if those two, well. 441 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 5: It could be almost Breadbury. 442 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 7: Like I reckon McGuire might just turn the television off 443 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 7: this weekend, just on Monday morning, tune into Fox Sports 444 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 7: News and see who's injured. 445 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: Just because we are clear underdogs here, Why is it 446 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: dropping like Queensland have got their team picked already? The 447 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 1: spine is just perfect. There's no excuse for Quaens. They're 448 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 1: not to win games. 449 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 7: Takes the pressure off McGuire, doesn't it, which you could 450 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 7: argue it is going to be the biggest challenge for him. 451 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 7: Obviously he coached at South Sydney, coached in Wigan, coached 452 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 7: the Tigers when they were really struggling. But the pressure 453 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 7: cooker that he will be in and the narrative around 454 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 7: state of origin, every decision that he makes, maybe this 455 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,479 Speaker 7: just might be a benefiting Queens that will be favorite 456 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 7: definitely book makers. 457 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 4: A little change that changes by game time. Guarantee you 458 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 4: that will change by game time, because it always does. 459 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: It's not kind. You just hanging on for dear life 460 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: to this underdog crap. That's what you hang it on to. 461 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: Thank you to serious news NRL racism investigation. Now, this 462 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: happened on the weekend at the game against the Dragons, 463 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: to see how seeing rabbits both Cody Walker out on 464 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: the trell Mitchell, Now, can you guys talk us through 465 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 1: what's went down here? 466 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 4: Well, there was someone in the crowd who was racially 467 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 4: abusing Cody on Latrell. I'm not sure Cody and Latrell 468 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 4: heard it, but a fan in the stands identify the person. 469 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 4: I can tell the NRL has now identified that person. 470 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 4: They've spoken and they've interviewed them, and I expect the 471 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 4: next couple of days we'll see some pretty hefty bands, 472 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 4: a hefty band handed out to that person. We won't 473 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 4: see him at a regular league game for a long 474 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 4: long time, if ever again. 475 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: So it should be life, it should be it should 476 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 1: be what have you heard? Yeah? 477 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 2: Likewise, likewise, what what gives me hope you guys, is 478 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 2: that fans are now calling out fans. Yes, right, so 479 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 2: this is usually the player out on the field having 480 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 2: to go and get a security guard and they. 481 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 5: Latrelle Cody. 482 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 2: They've put up with it for too long, and thankfully 483 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 2: we're seeing fans now turn on fans, which it shows 484 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 2: a little bit of growing up. 485 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: I think it's really good. I actually had someone email 486 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: me at the game immediately and said that they had 487 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: heard it, and I don't know if it's the same person, 488 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 1: but they said it was a disgrace and disgusting and 489 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: we don't stand for it here. And in my opinion, 490 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: if you're racist at the games, you should just never 491 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: return ben never to be seen again. All right, Angus 492 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: kriton what is happening with him? He had plenty to 493 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 1: say after obviously David fraffiteda being signed by the Roosters. 494 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: Seems like he wasn't notified by the club. 495 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 4: Well, I think the club had been talking to his agent, 496 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 4: and I don't think his agent had got around it 497 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 4: communicating to Angus because he had a football game that weekend. 498 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 4: I can tell you that the russ of today given 499 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 4: still Chupenuur permission to explore his options elsewhere, doesn't necessarily 500 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 4: mean Satill he will leave. He'll come back to the 501 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 4: club in a few weeks see what the options are 502 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 4: out there. But if Angers stays, it's going to make 503 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 4: it hard for them to keep Satilly. If Angus decides 504 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 4: to leave, then the chance until he stays. So I 505 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 4: think Angus will have some discussions or his management will 506 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 4: have some discussions at Magic Ground with the Rusters and 507 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 4: some other clubs, and then they'll go from there and 508 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 4: see what happens. But you know, I think the Rusters 509 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 4: think they can keep Angus Crichton. We'll see what happens. 510 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: But his price has gone up a lot now has gone. 511 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 6: They could have kept. I mean, earlier in the year's 512 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 6: price was probably half that. That was a different time. 513 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 7: So were they offering him a deal at that time 514 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 7: below his current contract value. 515 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 4: I don't think they may even offer back then, Jimmy. 516 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 4: I think they'll wan to see how he played. But 517 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 4: at that point, obviously they they could have got him 518 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 4: at a lower price. 519 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 2: And not only that, Really the anticipation within the Roosters 520 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 2: was that was heading to French rugby. Yes, so they 521 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 2: didn't really think there was an opportunity to retain Angus 522 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 2: at that point because he was he was going to 523 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 2: head off overseas. 524 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: Let's be honest, Like Angus was struggling big time on 525 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: off the field, and really he would have struggled to 526 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: get a club. He started to grief. He was you know, 527 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: he's come a long way which is a credit to him, 528 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: but it probably makes it difficult to manage, you know, 529 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 1: for the club now with the salary cap and they've 530 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: signed for Feeder. But they've made that call and Angus 531 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: was in formed last week when they when they signed him. 532 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: So interesting to see how it does well. 533 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to see because Angus won't struggle to 534 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 2: get a club for a buying club. How there's so 535 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 2: much appeal in getting all he'll got class to playing 536 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 2: start of origin for the Blues. 537 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 4: I think he will a a little bits comments, so 538 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 4: they're pretty jarring, pretty upfront. 539 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 6: And honest, I'm not going to sit behind anyone. 540 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 4: I like it the way he's playing. He shouldn't sit 541 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 4: behind anyone. Angus crime. 542 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 1: He should start saying that right to me, that suggests 543 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: that he'll expect the value for his performances and he 544 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 1: wants to play on that left hand. They're both left edges, right. 545 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well that's going to make it up for the 546 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 4: Roosts to keep Angus and what it means to till 547 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 4: he's stays. 548 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 6: So, you know, I think we'll find out in the 549 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 6: next couple of weeks what happens. 550 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: He will make a big play at Angus. Angus surely 551 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: left edge because they want a left edge back right 552 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: and he's more traditional than for Feeder is a left 553 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: edge back rower and he would fit into that system 554 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 1: of Pende very well. 555 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 4: There were plans for them to meet this week to 556 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,239 Speaker 4: talk about what they were going to do after miss 557 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 4: out and Dave, I think they've been put on hold 558 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 4: for a few days or till the end of the week, 559 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 4: potential early next week. I don't think they've decided what 560 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 4: they'll do next, but they do have an interest in Angus. 561 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 4: He's one of the guys they are looking at. They 562 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 4: might look at Stillion now he has been given permission. 563 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, not bad either. They really you're taking it. 564 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 6: He's gleaning on your feet, isn't it. 565 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: It is just like you're ready in life. You don't 566 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: trouble in Townsville. What's going on in Townsville? This is 567 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: they've just fallen off a cliff. 568 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 5: Well, well it it has to be hugely concerning. 569 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 2: And it must be said that if the Cowboys were 570 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 2: a Sydney club, Todd Beayden would be under the blowtorch 571 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 2: right now. 572 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 5: They had a shocking end of their season. 573 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 2: They only they lost four of their last five last year, 574 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 2: and I just think they've been they got The game 575 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 2: that got me was the Dolphins loss. They got absolutely 576 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 2: outworked and outmuscled by a coinslank Cup side. And for me, 577 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 2: if there weren't internal questions being asked at that point 578 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 2: in time, well, the Cowboys management aren't doing their job. 579 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 4: They don't want to defend. They got no interest in defending. 580 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 4: All they want to do is attack. And I think 581 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 4: that there are rumblings up there that the walls are 582 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 4: closing in on Toddy a bit. 583 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:43,719 Speaker 1: Is that right? 584 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 6: Well, yeah they are. 585 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 1: Can you talk us through that a little bit? 586 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 6: Just some rumblings. There's some pressure on and so this 587 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 6: should yeah, of. 588 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: Course there is. 589 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 7: There were top four two seasons ago, didn't make the 590 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 7: eight last year after high expectations, and then don't look 591 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 7: like they're going to be challenging for playoffs coming to 592 00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 7: the end. 593 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 6: Of the season. 594 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: I just wonder. 595 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 7: In the preseason Todd Peyton made a big call to 596 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 7: remove Townsend and Tamalolo from those captaincy and leadership roles 597 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 7: and assigned them to Dierden and to who else now 598 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 7: is the rub Cotton now that arguably is the correct 599 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 7: decision that young leadership. Todd justified his decision, but how 600 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 7: well has that been received by Tamilola and Townsend and 601 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 7: the ripple on effect of maybe not managing that changing 602 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 7: of the guard as well as possible. 603 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 4: That is a top eight squad you go through that scoad, 604 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 4: that's a top eight squad at a minimum a top 605 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 4: eight squad. So you look at where they are now 606 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 4: and the way they've played in the last five weeks, 607 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 4: it's just been way, way be lot of expectations. 608 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 2: So Rudy's point about the defense, if we remember two 609 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 2: seasons ago when the Cowboys had that great year, we 610 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,959 Speaker 2: remember to talking about their scrambled defense and how they 611 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 2: used to fight for each other where there'd be six, seven, 612 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 2: eight cowboys in the frame on a last ditch play. 613 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 2: We're seeing none of that. We spoke about how fit 614 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 2: they were, how hard they were, We're seeing none of 615 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 2: that at this point in time. And that's why I 616 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 2: honestly believe there are questions being asked up there, and 617 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 2: not only that, guys, the ripple effect on the Queensland 618 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 2: origin side, where I believe that there would be discussions 619 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 2: being had with several of those Queensland as I Valentine 620 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 2: Holmes Mariy to a lungey rubbon cord. 621 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 6: Or it should be underdog Stone. 622 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 5: Sorry, what did I do? Terrible? 623 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: All right, let's move on from that now. Shane Richardson 624 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: he has sent a love love letter, a letter to 625 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: the fans the Tigers. Can someone tell me what it 626 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: contain in that letter? And why is he sending it 627 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: to the fans right now? 628 00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 6: Well? 629 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 4: These saying because they're in the bad patch break I've 630 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 4: lost what they lost five or six in a row. 631 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 4: I think just wanted to calm them and reassure them 632 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 4: the club's heading. 633 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 6: In the right direction. 634 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 4: But so, okay, he has been better this year, brath 635 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 4: Do you not think they'd be better? But I think 636 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 4: they've been better this year. They won't spoon last year spoon. 637 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 4: The year before they lost six when they beat Paramatter. 638 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 4: We were talking about it the other week that when 639 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 4: they beat Paramatter, Clint Gothison missed the conversion on the 640 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 4: bell which was there. 641 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, but I'm saying that I think they've been better 642 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 6: this year. 643 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: Panic from Shane. 644 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 6: I think that's the essence of the message. 645 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's a working problems. 646 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: The ceo send letters to their fans regularly about their performance. 647 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: I'm just asking. I do not know. 648 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 4: Sometimes CEOs provide updates. Yeah, that happens occasionally, occasional. Usually 649 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 4: when your team's going pretty badly, you send a letter 650 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 4: or an email of the post something on the website 651 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 4: to reassure the fans not to worry. 652 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 5: So so don't panic because we're not going that bad, 653 00:29:59,120 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 5: is the message. 654 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: Yeah to defense, which means penny because I'm sending a letter. 655 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 5: But I'm panicking because I'm sending a letter. 656 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 7: Just at least he's communicating, you know. 657 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 5: The last thing you probably might is. 658 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: Crickets from your club. Communication is everything, it is, even 659 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: if you think, just like your relationships and advice from me, 660 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: now I should take this. I want to hear about this. 661 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: Do your members some music in the back next, boys, 662 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: you've been fantastic all right. Up next to player's perspective 663 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: is read money and Adam doing