Speaker 1: Welcome to the Cod NRL Show. Dave Riccio has always
Speaker 1: Brent Reeve, Michael carry on. That's another week in rugby league,
Speaker 1: more headlines, more drama and.
Speaker 2: A couple of teams that needs and performs. We've created
Speaker 2: some of the dramas. Yeah, okay, let's get into it.
Speaker 2: Let's get into it.
Speaker 1: Saint George Illawarra are allowed to call them that, yeah
Speaker 1: dragon stuff. Well, I think it's time for this club
Speaker 1: to grow up. It's been mired by failures, reputed failures,
Speaker 1: and you can go back through how many goddamn junior
Speaker 1: rugby league players they're losing out of that.
Speaker 2: Awesome nursery of the Illawarra, And.
Speaker 1: For the first time in what twenty seven years, we
Speaker 1: find the Dragons under one roof, under this in this
Speaker 1: amazing center of excellence calling the Illawarra, I think effectively
Speaker 1: home doing ninety five percent of their training and preparation
Speaker 1: for aims down in Wollongong. The St George element of
Speaker 1: I'm largely being respectful here to Saint George because of
Speaker 1: their proud history, but the Sir George element of Saint
Speaker 1: George La Warre is now in the minority as far
Speaker 1: as the presence of that football team.
Speaker 2: Well it's been like that for years.
Speaker 3: Really, they've trained full time in Wollongong for more than
Speaker 3: a decade now. It's only changed flat again the broad
Speaker 3: and back to Krogra for the occasional occasional not the
Speaker 3: facilities under one roof is the first time because admin
Speaker 3: has sort of been split. But even admin in has
Speaker 3: lives have been based in Wollongong. But the Footages Club
Speaker 3: we're in the offices underneath the Grand Standard and the
Speaker 3: admin at the least club of either least club. So yeah,
Speaker 3: you're right from a from that point of view, they're
Speaker 3: finally under the one roofs, but you're not taking Saint
Speaker 3: George Lawarie out.
Speaker 2: Of the name.
Speaker 4: I don't mind your concept day coming with me. Well,
Speaker 4: I'm with you. I've been spending a drum for a
Speaker 4: long time.
Speaker 2: It's not a good thing.
Speaker 4: Been been in drug for long time. This is not
Speaker 4: a big club anymore.
Speaker 2: I'm not arguing with that, and.
Speaker 4: Part of it is the issues at board level. Right,
Speaker 4: they're perhaps more united than they have been previously, but
Speaker 4: it's still not really a smooth hip, right, there's still
Speaker 4: some friction there and I don't think this is my issue.
Speaker 4: This is my only issue, Dave. We're changing the name.
Speaker 4: You're not going to solve that just by changing the name.
Speaker 4: But I don't mind the concept because everyone knows them's
Speaker 4: the dragons anyway. People call them the dragons.
Speaker 2: That's who they are.
Speaker 3: You obviously, aside from the booze out of Cogra on
Speaker 3: the weekend. They'll change Saint George. They're not changing the dragon.
Speaker 3: It happens every game. It was very we're not talking
Speaker 3: about very brief. They chance Saint George Cora.
Speaker 4: Well that's well, again, that's an illustration of why you
Speaker 4: probably need to be the dragon.
Speaker 2: Why did they only gather the logo because because okay,
Speaker 2: we were about this a couple of years.
Speaker 4: Ago, chanced Saint George la Wara, not just Saint George.
Speaker 4: Just to Clara, that shows the division.
Speaker 2: Well, that's right, it's right. Another fact, it shows a division. Well,
Speaker 2: do they haven't been able to marry it? Does? St
Speaker 2: George's name?
Speaker 3: This St George la war George Laase Canterbury Banks down.
Speaker 3: No one's chanting that Canoby Banks down. Subtly, no one's
Speaker 3: saying there, but no one's channing that.
Speaker 4: It's Canterbury George la Warre's too earlier.
Speaker 2: Me like, what are you talking about anyway? What are
Speaker 2: you with me? One hundred percent? I'm with you. Go
Speaker 2: the Dragons now, Dave.
Speaker 3: I think this is a deflection from your club that
Speaker 3: has portal loose for the facilities, don't doesn't have a
Speaker 3: leaf club that's been open for five years. They should
Speaker 3: relocate and just call them Adelaide Sharks. Just clear the area,
Speaker 3: blow them up, move them along the Dragons, Saint George Laura,
Speaker 3: take over that area.
Speaker 1: It's a point in discussion, point at a time where
Speaker 1: the club is on its knees. They have had They
Speaker 1: failed to make the finals since twenty eighteen. They've had
Speaker 1: one premiership in their joint ventures history. Despite the fact
Speaker 1: of having an entire nursery of talent to cultivate and
Speaker 1: develop into elite stars, star after star continue to leave
Speaker 1: the club. I'm not We're in a situation where Shane
Speaker 1: Flanagan has been bagged for going and getting representative players
Speaker 1: to try and uplift the younger players coming through.
Speaker 2: Represented players stretch.
Speaker 1: Okay, well they weren't represented people were now. They wouldn't
Speaker 1: have to do that if they were one United Force.
Speaker 2: What No, Now that's a long bow club.
Speaker 3: Look, I agree with you up until that recruitment point,
Speaker 3: because what clubs don't recruit recruited is like Papoli here
Speaker 3: Kiwi International, Adam Fanol Blake. Oh that's a bad club.
Speaker 3: No man, that's that's not the point. The recruitment's not
Speaker 3: the point. They've got the recruitment wrong, no doubt, but
Speaker 3: there is something wrong with that organization. I agree one
Speaker 3: hundred percent because you look at they've won one finals.
Speaker 2: They won, Garrick Jesse Cohen. I'm not arguing with you
Speaker 2: on that right.
Speaker 3: I'm arguing with you on the top end recruitment right,
Speaker 3: because all clubs go and make top end recruitments regard
Speaker 3: regardless of how good their junior pathways are.
Speaker 2: They've won one finals game since Ie Bennet left the club.
Speaker 3: Right, it's it's horrific, But losing like getting rid of
Speaker 3: the Saint George law. And you touched on the logo.
Speaker 3: It's an interesting point. So they have changed the logo
Speaker 3: except on the jersey. Right, the jersey remains of Saint
Speaker 3: George Laurire logo. But if you look at the logos
Speaker 3: throughout the club and they're apparel and on the website
Speaker 3: it's just the Dragon pixels, right, which is crap, right,
Speaker 3: But that was that was the reason that was given
Speaker 3: because because.
Speaker 1: Because it's an attempt to be one United club for
Speaker 1: the first time.
Speaker 3: It's an attempt, don't I think. I think you guys
Speaker 3: are reading too. I honestly don't think there's a divide
Speaker 3: between Saint George and I.
Speaker 2: Laura, you just confirmed there was, you said, and I didn't.
Speaker 4: People chance Saint George.
Speaker 2: That's not a divide.
Speaker 3: It's just people that have grown up supporting Saint George,
Speaker 3: channing Saint George. That's not a sledge in Laura a
Speaker 3: little bit, not really, because they're not. They're not saying
Speaker 3: we don't want Elaora. They know the name Saint George
Speaker 3: Lawa right. I don't, honestly don't think there's a divide
Speaker 3: between Saint George in Illawarra, at that fan base that
Speaker 3: it's been twenty five years.
Speaker 4: But that's the upper level. They don't get on Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't get don't get on board the board,
Speaker 3: the Saint George side and the wind side. They're not
Speaker 3: the best of maids, right, And there are some figureheads
Speaker 3: that butt heads there, no doubt, right, But I don't
Speaker 3: think the name definitely the name is the issue with
Speaker 3: the joint, right there's I'm not saying this is the
Speaker 3: issue with the joint.
Speaker 2: I'm saying it's a it's a chance to to all
Speaker 2: they will do.
Speaker 3: You've mentioned the fact that the club train and Wollongong yep,
Speaker 3: their players come from Wollongong. About the redevelopment, it will,
Speaker 3: it will end, it will end Saint George, it will endege.
Speaker 2: So that's where I want to get to. It will
Speaker 2: and St George in twenty five thirty years time. What
Speaker 2: does Saint George Lla woror look like and where are
Speaker 2: they based and where it's home. It's the way it's headed.
Speaker 3: It will be ten games in Woollongong if we can,
Speaker 3: and one one at Cogra or two at Coggra and
Speaker 3: depending on how many games we play, right, so maybe
Speaker 3: nine in Wollongong, two at Cogra and then marquee games elsewhere.
Speaker 1: In twenty five years time, I'm still playing two games
Speaker 1: at Cogre maybe at best.
Speaker 4: The grounds are dump right it is it is they
Speaker 4: won't play there anymore.
Speaker 2: It's ridiculous unless it's you've got a new.
Speaker 4: Stadium, will win, which is making a lot of money. Right,
Speaker 4: they make a lot of money out of that because
Speaker 4: a lot of a good corporate setup, a new corporate setup,
Speaker 4: and they'll be making so much money out of win,
Speaker 4: they'll just play there.
Speaker 2: One thing I will say is that St. George will
Speaker 2: be a fun thing.
Speaker 3: One thing I will say is that the district Club
Speaker 3: and the least club they've taken over the naming the
Speaker 3: rights of cogor Oval now right. They're willing and will
Speaker 3: tip in millions of dollars to ensure games are still
Speaker 3: played there. They just need counsel support and counseling.
Speaker 2: They're a they're tough there. What's that one called George's river?
Speaker 2: George and that's my electric so be careful.
Speaker 4: Look, well he's changings, he's changing government.
Speaker 3: I was doing SDN over summer and we had Chris
Speaker 3: Mins on and I asked about Cogro. He lives in
Speaker 3: the areas mens something give you there's no chance.
Speaker 2: He's only got one more term left.
Speaker 4: As well?
Speaker 2: Is it? Now? Do you follow politics? No?
Speaker 4: I don't follow politics.
Speaker 2: What do I do? Going? He's going to run for
Speaker 2: the next lection, Buddy, What I.
Speaker 1: Do hope for is that more than eight thousand fans
Speaker 1: on Friday Night.
Speaker 3: In they will because you look at the wool On
Speaker 3: crowd averages right far exceed Cogra. Congres's crowds have been
Speaker 3: diabolical for about three seasons.
Speaker 2: What's going on?
Speaker 1: They can't play with He's passionates and George fans jumped
Speaker 1: out of trees to bash Riccio and.
Speaker 2: Games. Where are they they cannot play?
Speaker 4: That's like half the crowd was a mixed family.
Speaker 2: George. They weren't doing though they should have been.
Speaker 1: This is a huge game Friday night against Manly. Can
Speaker 1: they turn it around me? Can they say I tipped
Speaker 1: them last week? I can't do it again. First time
Speaker 1: I've tipped them more year.
Speaker 2: I'm not tipping.
Speaker 4: I haven't tipped on. I would not be surprised they win, though,
Speaker 4: because I reckon maand they were on such a high
Speaker 4: last week. It's got to naturally be a little bit
Speaker 4: of a comdown for them.
Speaker 3: The difference between those two sides. And I've spoken to
Speaker 3: people about that at the Dragons. Hypothetically, if there is
Speaker 3: a coaching change, the Dragons don't have a sugar hit
Speaker 3: that mainly have got right, they just don't have it
Speaker 3: a the players don't hate the Sloane might be, but
Speaker 3: Sloan's the only But he's playing this week, right, But
Speaker 3: are you're talking about I'm talking about the Manly squad
Speaker 3: With Seves gone, the players were happier then they had
Speaker 3: X factors, all the kawatsu sure to Tommy Cohla, Yeah,
Speaker 3: Dragons have no one that resembles that, right, So if
Speaker 3: you really.
Speaker 2: No, Canval somehow pull out his best form?
Speaker 4: Well, I can do, but he's been down. He's got
Speaker 4: his best form left in him, Dave. The way his
Speaker 4: plays suggests.
Speaker 2: A class player in this time of the class player
Speaker 2: stands up.
Speaker 4: Well, he hasn't stood up pay far, is he? So
Speaker 4: I don't know whether maybe he hasn't any anymore potentially,
Speaker 4: you know, but they on need more than him to
Speaker 4: beat Manly. I mean the way Manly played last week.
Speaker 4: As I said, I expect me to have a little dip.
Speaker 4: But if they're anywhere near what they were last week,
Speaker 4: they'll blow the Dragons off the park and then you
Speaker 4: know what, all hell will break loose and the weekend
Speaker 4: will be a nightmare for everyone, journalists chasing the story
Speaker 4: and Flanno scrambling to keep his job. It's a really
Speaker 4: interesting story, isn't it that that Flannels scrambling. Look, I
Speaker 4: think we all think plans done anyway, right, But the
Speaker 4: fact he's had to rely on his son to coming
Speaker 4: into this to basically save his job, it's a great
Speaker 4: It's it's a really intriguing story. You know, Kyle shifting
Speaker 4: in a number seven the half back role. Kyle will
Speaker 4: be steering this team around the park if they're getting
Speaker 4: at home against Manly. You know it's going to be
Speaker 4: largely on his shoulders, I would say. And the fact
Speaker 4: his dad's jobs on the line and he's and this
Speaker 4: kid who's been under the microscope ever since he's been
Speaker 4: in that footage club with his dad, has been relied
Speaker 4: upon to basically dear them home. It's a great story.
Speaker 4: I don't think enough enough to be made of it
Speaker 4: this week?
Speaker 2: Every day? What do you want to do? Have we have?
Speaker 4: We spoken about the Carle factor every day though, That's
Speaker 4: what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And coming back from the head nock, I feel
Speaker 1: as though the Sloan inclusion could bark some life.
Speaker 4: Yeah, hopefully I love the way he Blokes are hanging
Speaker 4: on to Torrell Slane. What's he done for three years?
Speaker 4: Why can I spoke about it? An A three sixty
Speaker 4: last night people said, Torrel Sloane.
Speaker 2: Could you know the upside the difference?
Speaker 4: He can run, that's it, but he's been another run
Speaker 4: for years. I'm with you, and I don't know why
Speaker 4: people suddenly think he's going to turn around this football club.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying an opinion.
Speaker 1: I think mainly, yeah, Fella's expansion has been in the
Speaker 1: headlines this week, but notably let's just drill down on
Speaker 1: Perth a little.
Speaker 2: Because if we're listening to the conversations on the end
Speaker 2: of our phone.
Speaker 4: Lines, drama Dave the capital d.
Speaker 2: But a drama in w A.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they are board meeting on Friday and there's lots
Speaker 4: of talk that the head of football football manager David Sharp,
Speaker 4: CEO Anthony de seg aren't on the same page and
Speaker 4: it's going to be discussed at the board meeting on Friday. Now,
Speaker 4: the thing is that David Sharp was Mel's guy, Melvininger,
Speaker 4: So if they make a move on Dave, I'm intrigued
Speaker 4: to see what Mel does. There's a lot. It hasn't
Speaker 4: been a smooth ride Perth, right. I think we thought
Speaker 4: it was going to be difficult, but it's been more
Speaker 4: difficult than everyone thought. Getting a roster, the friction within
Speaker 4: the administration, it's just not going smooth.
Speaker 1: They've got zero media support from Seven West Media who
Speaker 1: are at loggerheads with CEO Anthony de Sigli, so they
Speaker 1: get no exposure whatsoever.
Speaker 3: I think the only saving grace is the Bears Monika.
Speaker 3: Otherwise I don't think anyone would care seriously. Yeah, if
Speaker 3: they didn't have the Bears attached to it, I wonder
Speaker 3: what the interest levels would be like, but I think.
Speaker 2: It'd be minimal.
Speaker 4: There's not a lot now, Mick.
Speaker 2: I imagine it didn't have Red.
Speaker 4: It's a big issue for the NRL because on need
Speaker 4: Perth to be successful and now they're fishing in the
Speaker 4: same pond for players as P and G with Mick Chamis,
Speaker 4: who's loaded with cash free at tax free dollars. So
Speaker 4: it's a pretty I wouldn't say it's a die situation
Speaker 4: over there, but I'll tell you what, it's had a
Speaker 4: bit of a crucial juncture in there in their short history.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the most most recent signings that we've heard
Speaker 1: you boys, because Jake Gavarrillo is one that's popped up.
Speaker 4: And the Lily Brotherske's been going, alright, have a guyer.
Speaker 2: Their squad is okay, it's just okay. Yeah. I think
Speaker 2: we gave it a six out of ten generous.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's just hard to believe that, you know,
Speaker 1: here we are in round five this time next year,
Speaker 1: that Perth Bears will be five rounds into the season.
Speaker 2: It's just hard to believe that they're that close because
Speaker 2: they feel so far away from from from being ready
Speaker 2: to launch there, because there's no experience buzz about him
Speaker 2: at the moment at all.
Speaker 3: You hear around the Chiefs and the word around the Chiefs,
Speaker 3: and you know, Michael Chump's done a good job selling
Speaker 3: the Chiefs vision.
Speaker 2: Who's doing that for Perth.
Speaker 1: And their struggle and their struggle will be to create
Speaker 1: that buzz for us Sydney journos to write about them.
Speaker 2: Shouldn't be hard.
Speaker 3: They've got the Bears and the good will and the
Speaker 3: exitement around the Bears is still there, still genuine, but
Speaker 3: there's just no gravitask to that squad and the surrounding
Speaker 3: elements of that club.
Speaker 4: At the moment, it lacks star power, significantly.
Speaker 2: Lacks stuff, and that's what was supposed to bring, right.
Speaker 4: But I mean, player wise, i'm talking more Mick than
Speaker 4: Melbourn's a bit of star power. He probably does, but
Speaker 4: Mel hasn't done.
Speaker 2: He's not out there, he's not as active.
Speaker 4: He's not doing hippo media. And at the moment, what
Speaker 4: are you selling, really, you're selling a bang average roster.
Speaker 4: It's basically an average what they put together their first
Speaker 4: six seventeen or sixteen players. They're just solid, well not
Speaker 4: all of them, most of them just solid first graders.
Speaker 4: There's no Markee name that's you know, screams put put
Speaker 4: my name up in lights. Right, that's the problem for them.
Speaker 4: And now, as I said, they're up against Pang, it's
Speaker 4: going to be really hard for them to land a
Speaker 4: really Markee name, right. But that's that's the secondary issue
Speaker 4: at the moment. The main issue at the moment is
Speaker 4: the friction within the organization. This is an organization at
Speaker 4: the NRL. The NRL runs this organization. They don't need,
Speaker 4: you know, an administration that's at war with itself, and
Speaker 4: that's what it sounds like it is at the moment,
Speaker 4: so they need to make some big decisions. I've said
Speaker 4: board meeting Friday we might have some.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I found the David Sharp appointment strange. Strange.
Speaker 4: Where's Melman?
Speaker 2: I would argue Anthony.
Speaker 1: Off kilter as well for starting a brand new rugby
Speaker 1: league franchise.
Speaker 4: No, I agree. I think most people were surprised when
Speaker 4: Anthony de Segulers made CEO. I think a lot of
Speaker 4: people were stunned when David Sharpe's made Heat of Footy
Speaker 4: given these Obviously he's got an impressive resumes ahead of
Speaker 4: Sports Integrity Australia, but he hasn't mean a forty for
Speaker 4: thirty years or something.
Speaker 2: And you can't underestimate the politics in the game.
Speaker 4: And when you're out there trying to sign players and
Speaker 4: sell a footy club and you actually haven't been in
Speaker 4: regular league for thirty years, that's a tough job. It's
Speaker 4: a tough sell you with me, Yeah, I mean and
Speaker 4: now due respective me, he hasn't coached a long time.
Speaker 4: I'll always couched trailer obviously in queens Ad times, but
Speaker 4: has been in the club the hurly Bildy, the washing
Speaker 4: machine of club footed for a long time as well. So, man,
Speaker 4: they've got some work to do.
Speaker 1: When are we going to see a Jersey Mick? Maybe
Speaker 1: we need some hype around. Yeah, give us something.
Speaker 2: On this yet.
Speaker 3: Next time they play in Perth, Melbourne take a game
Speaker 3: to Perth later in the year.
Speaker 2: That's when I wuld launched.
Speaker 4: Want to do it this week?
Speaker 2: Just get it done, man, what's the problem? I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what the issue is.
Speaker 2: But that's that's the plan.
Speaker 4: Yeah, be interested in to how many people go to
Speaker 4: the games this week? The game this is, yeah, doublehead?
Speaker 4: How many people get to isn't it? An ib It's okay? See,
Speaker 4: I've got no interest in Perth and apologies. Be interested
Speaker 4: in to how many people go to that game? How
Speaker 4: many they expected?
Speaker 2: You?
Speaker 4: No, I don't what's that all about? Fifty sixty? Yeah? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 4: see what they get.
Speaker 1: God's a bit of player movement news. You broke the
Speaker 1: story yesterday, Mick Brady, Connor Watson, Sidney Rooster's talent has
Speaker 1: been given permission to negotiate with rival clubs, noting that
Speaker 1: he is contracted until the end of twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this has been bubbling in the background for the
Speaker 3: past couple of weeks. Connor Watson now formally granted permission
Speaker 3: to talk to rival clubs and we're twelve months left
Speaker 3: on his contract. It's an interesting one because he's talking
Speaker 3: to PNG, definitely talking to P and G. And if
Speaker 3: he doesn't deal with P and G a two year deal,
Speaker 3: then you're going to get parked somewhere for twelve months.
Speaker 3: Whether that remains at the Roosters or a club like
Speaker 3: Manly or someone else would look. Definitely look at Connor Watson.
Speaker 3: If he does go to P and G for two years,
Speaker 3: he's definitely someone that a club will signed for twelve months.
Speaker 2: No doubt.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree. I mean he's been linked with obviously
Speaker 4: Manly and he'd be perfect for them for twelve months.
Speaker 4: Wherever gets a job there because he's a good blake,
Speaker 4: play variety positions, good footballer and black site that valuable commodity.
Speaker 4: So he'll get a gig somewhere for the next twelve
Speaker 4: months and you know I'd sign him I was in
Speaker 4: charge of footy team.
Speaker 2: Do we know the reason why the Roosters are happy
Speaker 2: to let him go. It's back to Reedy's pet baby
Speaker 2: R three.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and hasn't that crueled some people the.
Speaker 3: Fact that Connor had intimated to the ruses that look
Speaker 3: if it if it gets off the ground, I'm going
Speaker 3: to go to R three sixty. But it's still contracted
Speaker 3: and is like, nohs, we'll let you go. So they
Speaker 3: started planning for life after Connor Watson. R three sixty
Speaker 3: is falling through. Now they said, well, essentially, I think
Speaker 3: that's the way it's played out. It's led to a
Speaker 3: change in management for Corner as well, so I think
Speaker 3: essentially that that's how it's played out. From the rooster's end,
Speaker 3: they've they've spent his money.
Speaker 2: Yep, pen Manly anywhere else? You think he'd be a
Speaker 2: good fit me.
Speaker 3: I think he'd perfect from Melbourn with Tyrone wish are going, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think he'd be Look, I think his best positions
Speaker 3: number thirteen in that lock and I don't love him
Speaker 3: at dummy half Connor Watson, but if he's your number
Speaker 3: two dummy half, I think he does an outstanding job
Speaker 3: to parachute in for fifteen minutes in a game.
Speaker 2: If you need to all for a.
Speaker 3: Couple of games or so during the season. I don't
Speaker 3: think he's an eighty minute donmy half week in week out.
Speaker 3: I think his best position is thirteen. So you've got
Speaker 3: someone like Harry Grant.
Speaker 4: Don't worry. There is got Trent Aerro plays a lock
Speaker 4: for him, doesn't He's an Origin player, so you have
Speaker 4: to move. It's a good fear.
Speaker 2: It's a tyrant wish roll.
Speaker 4: Well but you're saying it's a third. But now you're
Speaker 4: saying it's utility. But the value of utility is un
Speaker 4: the same. Nick.
Speaker 3: He's a utility, but he's premier position for mine's thirteen.
Speaker 4: So he's not going to play thirty at that footy
Speaker 4: club because the hero is there. So basically signed him
Speaker 4: as a utility.
Speaker 2: I think any clubs signing him as a utility.
Speaker 4: I think some clubs are sign him. It's been pretty good.
Speaker 2: Sign him as a starting thirday.
Speaker 4: Well, it depends. It depends what a round ten you
Speaker 4: can play prop. Yeah, but then you've got Kobe Headington.
Speaker 2: Second, you've got this what I'm saying, like he can
Speaker 2: play like they can make.
Speaker 4: It work, you can make room for him. I just
Speaker 4: think you play a lot there. I guess in the
Speaker 4: team ahead of h because he's Origin player. Manly maybe
Speaker 4: gets yeah and maybe, but Manly potentially.
Speaker 3: If it's a different start, if it's a twelve month deal,
Speaker 3: he might go on better chance to win a premiership
Speaker 3: at Melbourne. Let me go to Melbourne and play that utility.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm just you know, I like Cronola.
Speaker 3: Dave would be a great landing for him, you know,
Speaker 3: depending on Key McKinnon mckinness, right, you know, obviously they
Speaker 3: got Brayley there who plays eighty minutes every week.
Speaker 2: But he's a good foil just in case. Like, I
Speaker 2: think that's his best spot.
Speaker 3: If he goes to a club as a you're looking
Speaker 3: at him as your premiere lock backup hooker. I think
Speaker 3: it works perfectly regardless of the death of the utility.
Speaker 2: What position.
Speaker 3: Dylan Walker similar Walker. Dylan Walker's off contract though, but
Speaker 3: it's a similar role to Dylan Walker.
Speaker 1: Just staying with the Roosters, Fellows moving towards their game
Speaker 1: that they are in Perth thready part of that double
Speaker 1: header they're coming off to buy the Chucks. Victor Bradley return,
Speaker 1: Spencer Lenu returns. This is starting to look like the
Speaker 1: Rooster's roster that does the damage.
Speaker 4: Both those teams have been pretty inconsistent though, haven't they
Speaker 4: this year? Sharks and Roosters hard to read, hard to
Speaker 4: get a good readown. I think I tip the Roosters,
Speaker 4: but with no confidence, Dave.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, because you just don't know what you're going
Speaker 2: to get from.
Speaker 4: We don't know what you can get for either of
Speaker 4: those teams. The Sharks in the day have looked great
Speaker 4: this year, but they've had days where they've looked awful,
Speaker 4: and the Roosts have been a bit the same. So
Speaker 4: one of those sides needs to start showing some consistency.
Speaker 4: I tipped the Rusters just because I don't know why
Speaker 4: I tipped them. Actually, I just had to pick. I
Speaker 4: had to tip someone we don't well that. I think
Speaker 4: that's an even money better But in.
Speaker 1: All honesty, now with Bradley and Lenu now back into
Speaker 1: this team, and with all the other stars in this side,
Speaker 1: this is the Rooster's side that needs to go and
Speaker 1: do some damage.
Speaker 4: Of course, I've been bagging on about this for twelve months. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you thought they should have won the comp last year?
Speaker 2: Yeah, for those reasons.
Speaker 1: Feel good story of the entire weekend, West Tiger's versus
Speaker 1: new Castle Knights fellas who would have thought they'd be
Speaker 1: up there in the top two or rented of the competition.
Speaker 2: Frent's got the Tigers win the comp.
Speaker 4: I had him in the eight. Remind you good good work?
Speaker 2: Was are you moving, Adam Dewey?
Speaker 1: If Crals was banging on about this, Crals Crawls does
Speaker 1: some funny things, but he he and look, I can understand.
Speaker 1: I can understand what he's saying because Jock Madden's been
Speaker 1: terrific in filling the void of Jerome.
Speaker 2: Luwie's Wait, I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't get away from the fact the lynchpins of
Speaker 1: this team and their transformations.
Speaker 3: Adam, do we When you said it on Tuesday NIGHTUM
Speaker 3: three sixty, I agreed with you, and I agree with you.
Speaker 2: Now I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know how you move, Adam. Do I can
Speaker 3: understand the question, yeah, because Jock Madden has been such
Speaker 3: a good playerform this year. But I think this is
Speaker 3: Jock's role as a pinch it I get in a
Speaker 3: few weeks when there's a couple of injuries and you
Speaker 3: know you've got a good safety net on your bench.
Speaker 2: Every week just in case. But yeah, I wouldn't be
Speaker 2: picking him the head well.
Speaker 4: Laughing at the insanity of it all that's even being
Speaker 4: talked about.
Speaker 2: It's a worthy No, it's not.
Speaker 4: You spend your whole summer training without him doing it,
Speaker 4: and I'm doing Jerome Leua and the halves. They start
Speaker 4: the season really well, well, Jerome Lawa gets injured, right,
Speaker 4: missed a couple of weeks, and sudden we go throw
Speaker 4: that out the window because Jock Mann's going, alright, give
Speaker 4: me a break. It's actually not an it's not a discussion.
Speaker 4: I can't believe we're even talking about it. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 4: With no disrespect to Jock Madden. It's all Paul Crawley.
Speaker 4: It was a great journo. But Crauls, what's doing seriously?
Speaker 4: I mean, it's crazy. It's crazy, isn't not.
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I'm with you. I don't think going bad.
Speaker 3: Look I don't think it's crazy to ask the question.
Speaker 3: But it's a ten second answer.
Speaker 2: Adam doing. Dr Laway got his pull up against his
Speaker 2: former player.
Speaker 4: This is just sensation made this guy and they when
Speaker 4: they signed him Newcastle when he was playing at a Wigan.
Speaker 4: I think it was he was being compared to saying
Speaker 4: Bill Williams. He was dynamic offloads, you know, and he
Speaker 4: went to Newcastle and you didn't see it. You never
Speaker 4: saw it. And now he's gone the Tigers. Benji's released
Speaker 4: the shackles a bit, taking the seatbelt and we're seeing
Speaker 4: the player that he promised to be when he was
Speaker 4: in England. He is a great football man. He's got
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what he's got. He's very intrigued in
Speaker 4: body shape, got the world's smallest calves, legs like sticks,
Speaker 4: like sticks. He's got.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: When he gets that football in one hand and starts
Speaker 4: doing things with it, his dynamite.
Speaker 1: I will take your calves and raise you Thomas Kant's thighs.
Speaker 1: That bloke has the like has the biggest legs in rugby.
Speaker 1: Like Tommy, can't you know what you know? I've told
Speaker 1: you this before he gets on the bike, told he
Speaker 1: does the Tour de France before he Yeah, because when
Speaker 1: I'm doing sideline, but he just walked. I said, Tommy,
Speaker 1: you've got the biggest league legs in the game.
Speaker 4: Maybe Tommy should talk the ki should get some can
Speaker 4: fill out those cars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what about you got a body? But look at Tommy's.
Speaker 4: He's been outstanding for the West Tigers. Loved good football.
Speaker 1: I can tell who are you leaning towards here, because
Speaker 1: you can't deny the Knights are right in this game
Speaker 1: despite its a it's a Campbelltown Campbelltoon home game.
Speaker 2: At the time, and they've all got playing good foot
Speaker 2: of the Knights. They move the ball well. The highest
Speaker 2: paid players out from both sides, Brown j.
Speaker 4: Where they leaned. You reckon when everyone's back the Knights
Speaker 4: in terms of when everyone's fit.
Speaker 2: Against Sanding either nine or bench.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Sharp and Brown and obviously.
Speaker 2: I reckon they land when it's time to talk turkey
Speaker 2: with Kaylan. On letting him go, I don't think they'll
Speaker 2: go that. I don't know if they do. But is
Speaker 2: the trajectory going forward?
Speaker 1: He's the future and and you can't have and you've
Speaker 1: got to gonna have to pay to keep him because
Speaker 1: there'son there will be a Congo contract, the Congo line
Speaker 1: of football clubs lining up.
Speaker 2: To pay him.
Speaker 4: He's very good player.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And and you can't And to pay Fletcher then
Speaker 1: Dylan Brownie's million, and to pay another one point too
Speaker 1: for Kaylin ain't gonna work.
Speaker 3: I'm in between what you guys are saying, I don't
Speaker 3: think they're as They're not in the situation where they've
Speaker 3: been in the past couple of years where they need
Speaker 3: to keep Kaalen, Right, they're not that desper They're not
Speaker 3: as desperate, So I reckon, I want to keep him,
Speaker 3: but they're going to have a price point and they're
Speaker 3: not going to be squeezed this time around.
Speaker 1: The red Hot Panthers unstoppable, unstoppable.
Speaker 2: Mate.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe tonight, maybe maybe the Bulldogs find a way.
Speaker 4: No, yes, no, not in the current environment. Not the
Speaker 4: way Penalthy, not the way the Bulldog's going. I don't think.
Speaker 4: I don't think they can beat them. But he knows
Speaker 4: what do I know? Yeah, broke your league. It's funny game,
Speaker 4: tell you what. And Nathan clear is two hundred that
Speaker 4: they'll be fun up for that.
Speaker 3: But I said his last night, what do you guys think, Nathan?
Speaker 3: I said, he's had the most impressive time of games
Speaker 3: that I was saying from anyone.
Speaker 4: Probably, Yeah, it's hard to argue. And he's won four comps.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're probably right.
Speaker 4: It just needs to win a Delian, but he'll probably
Speaker 4: win it this year. He's gets injury free miles ahead
Speaker 4: of everyone in.
Speaker 2: The ma's say injury free. Yeah, win, he'll win it
Speaker 2: this year.
Speaker 1: What we're saying on three sixty last night, really you
Speaker 1: firmly believe you'll well, he'll go to market November.
Speaker 4: There's a suggestion going around day that he wants to
Speaker 4: go to market November one and just see what's out
Speaker 4: there out there, gauge his value on the open market.
Speaker 4: So that that's been doing the rounds. I'm not sure
Speaker 4: it'll go down that path, but if it does, mate,
Speaker 4: can you imagine the money that's going Can you get
Speaker 4: thrown at that kid by not just P and G,
Speaker 4: by rival clubs. I mean, if you're when the cap
Speaker 4: goes up in twenty eight, it'll go up around twenty percent, right,
Speaker 4: they expect I think he's a two mini. I think
Speaker 4: you're goll to give him. He'll get two million dollars off.
Speaker 4: Someone will offer him two million dollars. And then if
Speaker 4: you consider maybe what P and G ten you throw
Speaker 4: at him, just so they throw one eight, one, seven
Speaker 4: five at him, that's tax three, right, that's about three
Speaker 4: three and a half. Some Oldfield endorsements come his way,
Speaker 4: that's tax three as well. He's going to be earning
Speaker 4: four or five million dollars if he goes to P
Speaker 4: and G.
Speaker 3: I agree with really better than your one point seven
Speaker 3: million dollars for Klein suggestion. Give Nathan almost two mil dragons.
Speaker 4: Why are you making it a Kaleen bash.
Speaker 2: It's not. It's not a Kalen it's your version.
Speaker 4: But I'm saying, the same club that offer Nathan two
Speaker 4: would probably offer Kalen one seventy five. What wouldn't they.
Speaker 3: I'm saying, no, why because I'd rather Nathan it two
Speaker 3: than Kaalen at one point seventy five.
Speaker 2: Okay, mm hmm, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, it's going to be interesting to see. I'd
Speaker 1: be fascinating if he does. I always just assumed he'd
Speaker 1: be penful life.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think. I don't know if he thinks
Speaker 4: that way now anymore. I think I think he said
Speaker 4: that would be his preference.
Speaker 3: Maybe, But that's intriguing and items off contract too. The
Speaker 3: whole thing is very intriguing.
Speaker 4: De Yeah, it'll cause a hell of a stir because
Speaker 4: a lot to fight in their hands in Penrith, and
Speaker 4: they've got so many blokes of contract at the end
Speaker 4: of twenty seven, and they've lost players over the years.
Speaker 4: But if if they want a match or go near
Speaker 4: what Nathan will get in the open market, that's going
Speaker 4: to put a hell of a squeeze on everywhere else
Speaker 4: and they're going to lose some players.