WEBVTT - The Dragons’ Hidden War, Cleary's $4.5M Bombshell & Perth Bears Internal Tension: Round 6 Preview 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:05.480 Welcome to the Cod NRL Show. Dave Riccio has always 0:00:05.519 --> 0:00:08.119 Brent Reeve, Michael carry on. That's another week in rugby league, 0:00:08.360 --> 0:00:10.800 more headlines, more drama and. 0:00:12.240 --> 0:00:14.200 A couple of teams that needs and performs. We've created 0:00:14.240 --> 0:00:17.279 some of the dramas. Yeah, okay, let's get into it. 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:18.439 Let's get into it. 0:00:18.520 --> 0:00:21.400 Saint George Illawarra are allowed to call them that, yeah 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:24.200 dragon stuff. Well, I think it's time for this club 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:31.520 to grow up. It's been mired by failures, reputed failures, 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:35.880 and you can go back through how many goddamn junior 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:37.920 rugby league players they're losing out of that. 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:41.920 Awesome nursery of the Illawarra, And. 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:47.559 For the first time in what twenty seven years, we 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:51.239 find the Dragons under one roof, under this in this 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:54.720 amazing center of excellence calling the Illawarra, I think effectively 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:59.720 home doing ninety five percent of their training and preparation 0:00:59.800 --> 0:01:04.160 for aims down in Wollongong. The St George element of 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:07.840 I'm largely being respectful here to Saint George because of 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:11.280 their proud history, but the Sir George element of Saint 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:14.480 George La Warre is now in the minority as far 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:17.080 as the presence of that football team. 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:18.440 Well it's been like that for years. 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:22.320 Really, they've trained full time in Wollongong for more than 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:24.280 a decade now. It's only changed flat again the broad 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:28.360 and back to Krogra for the occasional occasional not the 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:31.120 facilities under one roof is the first time because admin 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:34.679 has sort of been split. But even admin in has 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:37.640 lives have been based in Wollongong. But the Footages Club 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:41.000 we're in the offices underneath the Grand Standard and the 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:44.080 admin at the least club of either least club. So yeah, 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:46.160 you're right from a from that point of view, they're 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:49.960 finally under the one roofs, but you're not taking Saint 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:50.920 George Lawarie out. 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:51.360 Of the name. 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:55.640 I don't mind your concept day coming with me. Well, 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:58.520 I'm with you. I've been spending a drum for a 0:01:58.560 --> 0:01:59.000 long time. 0:01:59.120 --> 0:01:59.840 It's not a good thing. 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:01.520 Been been in drug for long time. This is not 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:02.400 a big club anymore. 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:06.800 I'm not arguing with that, and. 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:10.400 Part of it is the issues at board level. Right, 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:14.959 they're perhaps more united than they have been previously, but 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:18.720 it's still not really a smooth hip, right, there's still 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:22.240 some friction there and I don't think this is my issue. 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:24.399 This is my only issue, Dave. We're changing the name. 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:27.280 You're not going to solve that just by changing the name. 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:30.280 But I don't mind the concept because everyone knows them's 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:32.960 the dragons anyway. People call them the dragons. 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:33.600 That's who they are. 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:37.280 You obviously, aside from the booze out of Cogra on 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:40.239 the weekend. They'll change Saint George. They're not changing the dragon. 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:44.600 It happens every game. It was very we're not talking 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:53.720 about very brief. They chance Saint George Cora. 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:56.480 Well that's well, again, that's an illustration of why you 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:57.440 probably need to be the dragon. 0:02:57.440 --> 0:03:01.520 Why did they only gather the logo because because okay, 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:03.240 we were about this a couple of years. 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:05.520 Ago, chanced Saint George la Wara, not just Saint George. 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:07.200 Just to Clara, that shows the division. 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:12.679 Well, that's right, it's right. Another fact, it shows a division. Well, 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:14.679 do they haven't been able to marry it? Does? St 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:15.959 George's name? 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:22.639 This St George la war George Laase Canterbury Banks down. 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:25.760 No one's chanting that Canoby Banks down. Subtly, no one's 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:27.280 saying there, but no one's channing that. 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:31.120 It's Canterbury George la Warre's too earlier. 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:33.640 Me like, what are you talking about anyway? What are 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:35.480 you with me? One hundred percent? I'm with you. Go 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:38.600 the Dragons now, Dave. 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:42.120 I think this is a deflection from your club that 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:47.080 has portal loose for the facilities, don't doesn't have a 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:49.680 leaf club that's been open for five years. They should 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:53.200 relocate and just call them Adelaide Sharks. Just clear the area, 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:56.840 blow them up, move them along the Dragons, Saint George Laura, 0:03:57.000 --> 0:03:58.080 take over that area. 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:00.480 It's a point in discussion, point at a time where 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:03.600 the club is on its knees. They have had They 0:04:03.760 --> 0:04:06.280 failed to make the finals since twenty eighteen. They've had 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:09.640 one premiership in their joint ventures history. Despite the fact 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:15.080 of having an entire nursery of talent to cultivate and 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:20.479 develop into elite stars, star after star continue to leave 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:23.640 the club. I'm not We're in a situation where Shane 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:28.960 Flanagan has been bagged for going and getting representative players 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:31.320 to try and uplift the younger players coming through. 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:32.520 Represented players stretch. 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:37.320 Okay, well they weren't represented people were now. They wouldn't 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:40.599 have to do that if they were one United Force. 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:45.440 What No, Now that's a long bow club. 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:47.839 Look, I agree with you up until that recruitment point, 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:51.560 because what clubs don't recruit recruited is like Papoli here 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:54.640 Kiwi International, Adam Fanol Blake. Oh that's a bad club. 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:57.360 No man, that's that's not the point. The recruitment's not 0:04:57.400 --> 0:04:59.520 the point. They've got the recruitment wrong, no doubt, but 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:02.560 there is something wrong with that organization. I agree one 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:05.040 hundred percent because you look at they've won one finals. 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:10.039 They won, Garrick Jesse Cohen. I'm not arguing with you 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:10.960 on that right. 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:12.880 I'm arguing with you on the top end recruitment right, 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:14.799 because all clubs go and make top end recruitments regard 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:17.200 regardless of how good their junior pathways are. 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:19.920 They've won one finals game since Ie Bennet left the club. 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:25.039 Right, it's it's horrific, But losing like getting rid of 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:26.920 the Saint George law. And you touched on the logo. 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:29.839 It's an interesting point. So they have changed the logo 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:32.800 except on the jersey. Right, the jersey remains of Saint 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:35.000 George Laurire logo. But if you look at the logos 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:37.360 throughout the club and they're apparel and on the website 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:42.920 it's just the Dragon pixels, right, which is crap, right, 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:44.760 But that was that was the reason that was given 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:46.360 because because. 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:51.920 Because it's an attempt to be one United club for 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:52.640 the first time. 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:56.240 It's an attempt, don't I think. I think you guys 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:58.640 are reading too. I honestly don't think there's a divide 0:05:58.680 --> 0:05:59.560 between Saint George and I. 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:02.239 Laura, you just confirmed there was, you said, and I didn't. 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:03.440 People chance Saint George. 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:04.200 That's not a divide. 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:06.200 It's just people that have grown up supporting Saint George, 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:09.080 channing Saint George. That's not a sledge in Laura a 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:12.720 little bit, not really, because they're not. They're not saying 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:14.640 we don't want Elaora. They know the name Saint George 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:17.440 Lawa right. I don't, honestly don't think there's a divide 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:20.520 between Saint George in Illawarra, at that fan base that 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:22.440 it's been twenty five years. 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:25.760 But that's the upper level. They don't get on Yeah. 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:28.400 Yeah, they don't get don't get on board the board, 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:30.719 the Saint George side and the wind side. They're not 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:33.760 the best of maids, right, And there are some figureheads 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:37.360 that butt heads there, no doubt, right, But I don't 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:41.200 think the name definitely the name is the issue with 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:44.599 the joint, right there's I'm not saying this is the 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:45.800 issue with the joint. 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:51.040 I'm saying it's a it's a chance to to all 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:51.560 they will do. 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:55.640 You've mentioned the fact that the club train and Wollongong yep, 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:58.840 their players come from Wollongong. About the redevelopment, it will, 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:02.920 it will end, it will end Saint George, it will endege. 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:04.840 So that's where I want to get to. It will 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:09.200 and St George in twenty five thirty years time. What 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:11.120 does Saint George Lla woror look like and where are 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:14.120 they based and where it's home. It's the way it's headed. 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:17.600 It will be ten games in Woollongong if we can, 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:20.800 and one one at Cogra or two at Coggra and 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:23.240 depending on how many games we play, right, so maybe 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:27.360 nine in Wollongong, two at Cogra and then marquee games elsewhere. 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:29.320 In twenty five years time, I'm still playing two games 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:32.239 at Cogre maybe at best. 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:35.200 The grounds are dump right it is it is they 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:36.000 won't play there anymore. 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:37.880 It's ridiculous unless it's you've got a new. 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:40.440 Stadium, will win, which is making a lot of money. Right, 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:41.920 they make a lot of money out of that because 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:45.960 a lot of a good corporate setup, a new corporate setup, 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:47.840 and they'll be making so much money out of win, 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:48.880 they'll just play there. 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:50.560 One thing I will say is that St. George will 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:51.120 be a fun thing. 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:53.800 One thing I will say is that the district Club 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:56.120 and the least club they've taken over the naming the 0:07:56.200 --> 0:08:00.160 rights of cogor Oval now right. They're willing and will 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:02.640 tip in millions of dollars to ensure games are still 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:05.320 played there. They just need counsel support and counseling. 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:09.080 They're a they're tough there. What's that one called George's river? 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:11.720 George and that's my electric so be careful. 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:16.280 Look, well he's changings, he's changing government. 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:20.160 I was doing SDN over summer and we had Chris 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:22.280 Mins on and I asked about Cogro. He lives in 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:25.840 the areas mens something give you there's no chance. 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:28.120 He's only got one more term left. 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:29.920 As well? 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:31.560 Is it? Now? Do you follow politics? No? 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:32.760 I don't follow politics. 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:37.320 What do I do? Going? He's going to run for 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:39.160 the next lection, Buddy, What I. 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:42.800 Do hope for is that more than eight thousand fans 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:43.920 on Friday Night. 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:45.800 In they will because you look at the wool On 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:49.360 crowd averages right far exceed Cogra. Congres's crowds have been 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:50.920 diabolical for about three seasons. 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:52.240 What's going on? 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:57.199 They can't play with He's passionates and George fans jumped 0:08:57.200 --> 0:08:59.280 out of trees to bash Riccio and. 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:04.280 Games. Where are they they cannot play? 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:07.600 That's like half the crowd was a mixed family. 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:12.280 George. They weren't doing though they should have been. 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:15.760 This is a huge game Friday night against Manly. Can 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:19.200 they turn it around me? Can they say I tipped 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:21.240 them last week? I can't do it again. First time 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:22.040 I've tipped them more year. 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:22.600 I'm not tipping. 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:26.000 I haven't tipped on. I would not be surprised they win, though, 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:27.960 because I reckon maand they were on such a high 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:30.240 last week. It's got to naturally be a little bit 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:31.360 of a comdown for them. 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:33.440 The difference between those two sides. And I've spoken to 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:36.400 people about that at the Dragons. Hypothetically, if there is 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:38.760 a coaching change, the Dragons don't have a sugar hit 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:40.760 that mainly have got right, they just don't have it 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:44.280 a the players don't hate the Sloane might be, but 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:46.200 Sloan's the only But he's playing this week, right, But 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:48.760 are you're talking about I'm talking about the Manly squad 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:51.840 With Seves gone, the players were happier then they had 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:57.040 X factors, all the kawatsu sure to Tommy Cohla, Yeah, 0:09:57.200 --> 0:09:59.800 Dragons have no one that resembles that, right, So if 0:09:59.840 --> 0:10:00.559 you really. 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:04.199 No, Canval somehow pull out his best form? 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:08.920 Well, I can do, but he's been down. He's got 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:11.319 his best form left in him, Dave. The way his 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:12.760 plays suggests. 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:17.280 A class player in this time of the class player 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:17.800 stands up. 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:20.400 Well, he hasn't stood up pay far, is he? So 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:25.959 I don't know whether maybe he hasn't any anymore potentially, 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:28.240 you know, but they on need more than him to 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:30.280 beat Manly. I mean the way Manly played last week. 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:32.520 As I said, I expect me to have a little dip. 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:34.680 But if they're anywhere near what they were last week, 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:37.680 they'll blow the Dragons off the park and then you 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:40.240 know what, all hell will break loose and the weekend 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:43.840 will be a nightmare for everyone, journalists chasing the story 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:46.640 and Flanno scrambling to keep his job. It's a really 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:51.560 interesting story, isn't it that that Flannels scrambling. Look, I 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:56.880 think we all think plans done anyway, right, But the 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:59.560 fact he's had to rely on his son to coming 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:02.360 into this to basically save his job, it's a great 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:06.240 It's it's a really intriguing story. You know, Kyle shifting 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:08.559 in a number seven the half back role. Kyle will 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:10.680 be steering this team around the park if they're getting 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:13.240 at home against Manly. You know it's going to be 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:15.920 largely on his shoulders, I would say. And the fact 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:18.760 his dad's jobs on the line and he's and this 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:21.880 kid who's been under the microscope ever since he's been 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:24.240 in that footage club with his dad, has been relied 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:27.360 upon to basically dear them home. It's a great story. 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:29.880 I don't think enough enough to be made of it 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:30.280 this week? 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:34.040 Every day? What do you want to do? Have we have? 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:35.959 We spoken about the Carle factor every day though, That's 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:36.720 what I'm talking about. 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:42.040 Yeah, And coming back from the head nock, I feel 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:46.400 as though the Sloan inclusion could bark some life. 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:48.719 Yeah, hopefully I love the way he Blokes are hanging 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:51.760 on to Torrell Slane. What's he done for three years? 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:55.840 Why can I spoke about it? An A three sixty 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:58.000 last night people said, Torrel Sloane. 0:11:57.760 --> 0:11:59.520 Could you know the upside the difference? 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:02.400 He can run, that's it, but he's been another run 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:04.640 for years. I'm with you, and I don't know why 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:07.040 people suddenly think he's going to turn around this football club. 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:10.720 I'm just saying an opinion. 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:16.760 I think mainly, yeah, Fella's expansion has been in the 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:20.880 headlines this week, but notably let's just drill down on 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:21.960 Perth a little. 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:25.640 Because if we're listening to the conversations on the end 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:26.880 of our phone. 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:29.600 Lines, drama Dave the capital d. 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:30.839 But a drama in w A. 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:34.320 Yeah, they are board meeting on Friday and there's lots 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:37.319 of talk that the head of football football manager David Sharp, 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:42.200 CEO Anthony de seg aren't on the same page and 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:44.600 it's going to be discussed at the board meeting on Friday. Now, 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:48.680 the thing is that David Sharp was Mel's guy, Melvininger, 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:52.760 So if they make a move on Dave, I'm intrigued 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:56.280 to see what Mel does. There's a lot. It hasn't 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:58.760 been a smooth ride Perth, right. I think we thought 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:00.520 it was going to be difficult, but it's been more 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:04.840 difficult than everyone thought. Getting a roster, the friction within 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:06.920 the administration, it's just not going smooth. 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:11.600 They've got zero media support from Seven West Media who 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:14.840 are at loggerheads with CEO Anthony de Sigli, so they 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:16.439 get no exposure whatsoever. 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:18.559 I think the only saving grace is the Bears Monika. 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:22.000 Otherwise I don't think anyone would care seriously. Yeah, if 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:24.360 they didn't have the Bears attached to it, I wonder 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:26.480 what the interest levels would be like, but I think. 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:27.280 It'd be minimal. 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:28.800 There's not a lot now, Mick. 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:32.040 I imagine it didn't have Red. 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:35.320 It's a big issue for the NRL because on need 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:38.120 Perth to be successful and now they're fishing in the 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:41.959 same pond for players as P and G with Mick Chamis, 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:45.160 who's loaded with cash free at tax free dollars. So 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:48.160 it's a pretty I wouldn't say it's a die situation 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:49.560 over there, but I'll tell you what, it's had a 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:53.240 bit of a crucial juncture in there in their short history. 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:57.640 Yeah, what's the most most recent signings that we've heard 0:13:57.679 --> 0:14:01.160 you boys, because Jake Gavarrillo is one that's popped up. 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:06.640 And the Lily Brotherske's been going, alright, have a guyer. 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:11.600 Their squad is okay, it's just okay. Yeah. I think 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:14.760 we gave it a six out of ten generous. 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:18.840 Yeah, you know, it's just hard to believe that, you know, 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:22.520 here we are in round five this time next year, 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:24.960 that Perth Bears will be five rounds into the season. 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:27.720 It's just hard to believe that they're that close because 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:31.400 they feel so far away from from from being ready 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:34.480 to launch there, because there's no experience buzz about him 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:35.200 at the moment at all. 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:37.720 You hear around the Chiefs and the word around the Chiefs, 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:40.240 and you know, Michael Chump's done a good job selling 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:41.360 the Chiefs vision. 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:42.600 Who's doing that for Perth. 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:47.440 And their struggle and their struggle will be to create 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:50.840 that buzz for us Sydney journos to write about them. 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:51.440 Shouldn't be hard. 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:54.360 They've got the Bears and the good will and the 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:57.840 exitement around the Bears is still there, still genuine, but 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:02.800 there's just no gravitask to that squad and the surrounding 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:04.080 elements of that club. 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:08.280 At the moment, it lacks star power, significantly. 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:09.640 Lacks stuff, and that's what was supposed to bring, right. 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:14.840 But I mean, player wise, i'm talking more Mick than 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:17.480 Melbourn's a bit of star power. He probably does, but 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:18.200 Mel hasn't done. 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:21.400 He's not out there, he's not as active. 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:26.280 He's not doing hippo media. And at the moment, what 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:30.560 are you selling, really, you're selling a bang average roster. 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:34.120 It's basically an average what they put together their first 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:38.520 six seventeen or sixteen players. They're just solid, well not 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:40.840 all of them, most of them just solid first graders. 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:45.160 There's no Markee name that's you know, screams put put 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:47.880 my name up in lights. Right, that's the problem for them. 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:50.120 And now, as I said, they're up against Pang, it's 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:52.160 going to be really hard for them to land a 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:55.680 really Markee name, right. But that's that's the secondary issue 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:57.880 at the moment. The main issue at the moment is 0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:00.960 the friction within the organization. This is an organization at 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:04.400 the NRL. The NRL runs this organization. They don't need, 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:07.480 you know, an administration that's at war with itself, and 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:09.040 that's what it sounds like it is at the moment, 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:11.960 so they need to make some big decisions. I've said 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:13.600 board meeting Friday we might have some. 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:17.800 Yeah. I found the David Sharp appointment strange. Strange. 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:18.560 Where's Melman? 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:19.880 I would argue Anthony. 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:25.240 Off kilter as well for starting a brand new rugby 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:26.160 league franchise. 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:28.760 No, I agree. I think most people were surprised when 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:31.400 Anthony de Segulers made CEO. I think a lot of 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:33.640 people were stunned when David Sharpe's made Heat of Footy 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:38.800 given these Obviously he's got an impressive resumes ahead of 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:41.320 Sports Integrity Australia, but he hasn't mean a forty for 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:42.640 thirty years or something. 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:44.800 And you can't underestimate the politics in the game. 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:47.560 And when you're out there trying to sign players and 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:49.480 sell a footy club and you actually haven't been in 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:52.760 regular league for thirty years, that's a tough job. It's 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:56.480 a tough sell you with me, Yeah, I mean and 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:59.280 now due respective me, he hasn't coached a long time. 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:02.000 I'll always couched trailer obviously in queens Ad times, but 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:04.600 has been in the club the hurly Bildy, the washing 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:08.320 machine of club footed for a long time as well. So, man, 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:09.159 they've got some work to do. 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:11.640 When are we going to see a Jersey Mick? Maybe 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:14.200 we need some hype around. Yeah, give us something. 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:15.000 On this yet. 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:17.200 Next time they play in Perth, Melbourne take a game 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:18.320 to Perth later in the year. 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:19.600 That's when I wuld launched. 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:20.560 Want to do it this week? 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:23.760 Just get it done, man, what's the problem? I don't know. 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:26.159 I don't know. I don't know what the issue is. 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:27.720 But that's that's the plan. 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:29.800 Yeah, be interested in to how many people go to 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:32.440 the games this week? The game this is, yeah, doublehead? 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:39.240 How many people get to isn't it? An ib It's okay? See, 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:42.240 I've got no interest in Perth and apologies. Be interested 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:44.320 in to how many people go to that game? How 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:45.080 many they expected? 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:45.800 You? 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:49.320 No, I don't what's that all about? Fifty sixty? Yeah? Yeah, okay, 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:50.160 see what they get. 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:52.600 God's a bit of player movement news. You broke the 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:58.240 story yesterday, Mick Brady, Connor Watson, Sidney Rooster's talent has 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:03.240 been given permission to negotiate with rival clubs, noting that 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:06.040 he is contracted until the end of twenty twenty seven. 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:08.119 Yeah, this has been bubbling in the background for the 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:11.320 past couple of weeks. Connor Watson now formally granted permission 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:14.400 to talk to rival clubs and we're twelve months left 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:17.280 on his contract. It's an interesting one because he's talking 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:19.679 to PNG, definitely talking to P and G. And if 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:21.320 he doesn't deal with P and G a two year deal, 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:23.600 then you're going to get parked somewhere for twelve months. 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:26.399 Whether that remains at the Roosters or a club like 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:29.960 Manly or someone else would look. Definitely look at Connor Watson. 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:32.040 If he does go to P and G for two years, 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:35.040 he's definitely someone that a club will signed for twelve months. 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:35.359 No doubt. 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:38.120 Yeah, I agree. I mean he's been linked with obviously 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:40.960 Manly and he'd be perfect for them for twelve months. 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:43.320 Wherever gets a job there because he's a good blake, 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:49.720 play variety positions, good footballer and black site that valuable commodity. 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:51.800 So he'll get a gig somewhere for the next twelve 0:18:51.800 --> 0:18:53.879 months and you know I'd sign him I was in 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:54.920 charge of footy team. 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:58.200 Do we know the reason why the Roosters are happy 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:01.880 to let him go. It's back to Reedy's pet baby 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:02.520 R three. 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:05.560 Yeah, and hasn't that crueled some people the. 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:09.320