1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:07,281 Speaker 1: Apodje production. 2 00:00:11,321 --> 00:00:14,601 Speaker 2: So my name is Sally Laden and my mom, Marian Barto, 3 00:00:14,681 --> 00:00:17,321 Speaker 2: has been missing since nineteen ninety seven. 4 00:00:18,361 --> 00:00:21,601 Speaker 3: Sally Leyden had the support of dozens of loved ones 5 00:00:21,721 --> 00:00:25,441 Speaker 3: as a coroner today confirmed what she's known all along, 6 00:00:25,761 --> 00:00:26,561 Speaker 3: setting off from the. 7 00:00:26,481 --> 00:00:28,881 Speaker 2: Gold Coast for the adventure of a lifetime, a lot 8 00:00:28,881 --> 00:00:32,961 Speaker 2: of Australia's highest profile mysteries that stretches from Queensland to 9 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:34,081 Speaker 2: New South Wales, well. 10 00:00:33,961 --> 00:00:37,281 Speaker 4: Then half her life without her mom and a lengthy inquest. 11 00:00:37,321 --> 00:00:40,201 Speaker 5: But tonight Sally Layden has no answers. 12 00:00:40,561 --> 00:00:41,961 Speaker 2: I can't comment at this time. 13 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,441 Speaker 1: I'm sorry has this brought you any closure at all. 14 00:00:44,961 --> 00:00:49,401 Speaker 2: I've worked hard to tell my mom's story because in 15 00:00:49,441 --> 00:00:54,201 Speaker 2: my heart, someone somewhere knows something and I'm desperately searching 16 00:00:54,321 --> 00:00:55,681 Speaker 2: for that next piece of the puzzle. 17 00:00:56,161 --> 00:00:59,161 Speaker 3: She'd been dating a man named Rick Bloom who lied 18 00:00:59,241 --> 00:01:03,481 Speaker 3: about his identity. Today, Corona Teresa O'Sullivan found the pair 19 00:01:03,601 --> 00:01:07,601 Speaker 3: travel to the UK, returning without telling Marion's family. 20 00:01:08,361 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: I wanted to give an opportunity to other people who 21 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:17,121 Speaker 2: potentially haven't had that same exposure through the media or 22 00:01:17,161 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 2: through podcast, to tell their story about their missing loved ones. 23 00:01:22,961 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 5: It's almost too hard to fathom, but every fifteen minutes 24 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,641 Speaker 5: someone in Australia disappears. On the EVA Missing Person's Week, 25 00:01:30,681 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 5: the family of Nicholas Salice has once again called for 26 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,041 Speaker 5: help from the community in the hopes of closure. 27 00:01:37,481 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 3: About twelve thirty pm on Saturday, the twenty eighth of 28 00:01:39,961 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 3: July nineteen eighty four, seventeen year old Mega more Quinny 29 00:01:43,321 --> 00:01:47,241 Speaker 3: was last year standing outside Wooden Plaza. Thirteen years ago, 30 00:01:47,321 --> 00:01:51,361 Speaker 3: Warren Meyer went hiking in Victoria's Yarraw Rangers and was 31 00:01:51,441 --> 00:01:52,641 Speaker 3: never seen again. 32 00:01:53,401 --> 00:01:56,601 Speaker 5: For the family's left behind, the anguish of not knowing 33 00:01:56,641 --> 00:01:59,321 Speaker 5: what's happened to their loved one can be overwhelming. 34 00:01:59,761 --> 00:02:04,201 Speaker 2: It's important to me personally because I feel like everyone 35 00:02:04,641 --> 00:02:07,241 Speaker 2: deserves to be heard and everybody matters. 36 00:02:09,321 --> 00:02:12,601 Speaker 4: Be Linda Willeman. Her husband Darren dropped her father Jahn 37 00:02:12,721 --> 00:02:16,641 Speaker 4: Jensen home on Sunday after a family lunch. They say 38 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,681 Speaker 4: he was in good spirits, but the sixty eight year 39 00:02:19,721 --> 00:02:21,721 Speaker 4: old has disappeared without a trace. 40 00:02:24,361 --> 00:02:31,641 Speaker 2: The podcasts will be a kind, gentle conversation that has 41 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,361 Speaker 2: an empathy and understanding that not a lot of people 42 00:02:35,441 --> 00:02:39,961 Speaker 2: have without lived experience, and I want to be able 43 00:02:40,001 --> 00:02:43,521 Speaker 2: to give the families with those missing loved ones an 44 00:02:43,561 --> 00:02:47,881 Speaker 2: opportunity to tell us about their loved one, who they 45 00:02:47,881 --> 00:02:49,321 Speaker 2: are and why they matter. 46 00:02:50,201 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: But to everyone else, who was very quiet, you know, 47 00:02:52,841 --> 00:02:55,641 Speaker 1: he was always seen in the front line room, you know, 48 00:02:55,641 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: I sort of keeping to himself. He was happy watching TV, 49 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,481 Speaker 1: was happy reading. He loved his books. But he was 50 00:03:00,481 --> 00:03:03,361 Speaker 1: a sort of very affectionate dad in a woodboy house. 51 00:03:03,481 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: Every night I late on, I sat on lap, He's 52 00:03:07,561 --> 00:03:09,881 Speaker 1: reclined a chair, and he just tick on my back. 53 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:10,401 Speaker 5: And we just talked. 54 00:03:11,361 --> 00:03:13,201 Speaker 1: And then it'd bear it has time for bed now, 55 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,281 Speaker 1: So I got lady's bed and we just we just 56 00:03:16,361 --> 00:03:18,481 Speaker 1: chat and then we had this theme where he just 57 00:03:18,561 --> 00:03:19,761 Speaker 1: you know, sort of stick on me on the head 58 00:03:19,761 --> 00:03:21,681 Speaker 1: when it's like, okay, that was his sign of BINDI 59 00:03:21,721 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: I'm starting to go off to sleep now. Just in 60 00:03:23,201 --> 00:03:24,321 Speaker 1: case I don't answer you. 61 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 2: Our first episode is actually with my friend Jay, and 62 00:03:31,721 --> 00:03:36,361 Speaker 2: we're going to discuss the story of his missing uncle, 63 00:03:37,161 --> 00:03:42,241 Speaker 2: Desmond car. 64 00:03:41,241 --> 00:03:43,001 Speaker 6: I saw it affect my mom. I saw it affect 65 00:03:43,001 --> 00:03:45,801 Speaker 6: my auntie's and my grandparents. 66 00:03:46,241 --> 00:03:47,761 Speaker 2: Your granddad in particular. 67 00:03:48,161 --> 00:03:51,121 Speaker 6: My mum and my family said for a long time 68 00:03:51,881 --> 00:03:55,161 Speaker 6: that my granddad died early because of heartache, and. 69 00:03:55,041 --> 00:03:58,281 Speaker 2: I totally get that. I totally see how just the 70 00:03:58,361 --> 00:04:01,801 Speaker 2: ambiguity of not knowing do you be able to listen 71 00:04:01,841 --> 00:04:06,041 Speaker 2: to our first episode, The Missing Matter. Des Matter is 72 00:04:06,081 --> 00:04:10,801 Speaker 2: out and available on all platforms Monday, the eighteenth of August. 73 00:04:13,281 --> 00:04:14,401 Speaker 2: Why does dares matter? 74 00:04:16,121 --> 00:04:21,641 Speaker 6: These matters? Oh jeez, I think I'd get emotional. It 75 00:04:21,681 --> 00:04:24,361 Speaker 6: does matters now more than ever because