WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 27 March

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<v Speaker 1>From the Skying Center. This is Paul Murray live, Hollo,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend. Game on.

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<v Speaker 2>Half of the country thinks we are headed in the

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<v Speaker 2>wrong direction. More than half of the country thinks the

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<v Speaker 2>Prime Minister is not doing a good job. Those were

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<v Speaker 2>the conditions in which Peter Dutton started the election battle.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll be called tomorrow. We'll talk about it tonight, about

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<v Speaker 2>the number of seats, the where, the what and the how,

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<v Speaker 2>But if the five things you need to know about

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<v Speaker 2>what I thought was a pretty impressive speech from a

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<v Speaker 2>man who in just a few weeks time may well

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<v Speaker 2>end up the prime minister of this country, certainly an

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<v Speaker 2>alternative to the current who. As I say, the polls

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<v Speaker 2>say more than half of the country is dissatisfied with

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<v Speaker 2>the five things you need to know about the speech

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<v Speaker 2>and about why I think that it starts the election

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<v Speaker 2>campaign in the best way possible for the opposition. This

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<v Speaker 2>is a conversation about help that is needed now, not

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<v Speaker 2>help in a year fifteen months time. As you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we have remained laser focused and almost obsessed with cost

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<v Speaker 2>of living because of the effects that it has had

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<v Speaker 2>on everyday Australians. I remember the story of a woman

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<v Speaker 2>who was living in a car in Perth. She had

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<v Speaker 2>a job, she has kids. They live in the car.

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<v Speaker 2>The way that they could make sure that they had

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<v Speaker 2>drinking water at the end of each and every day

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<v Speaker 2>was to go and go and buy a bag of

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<v Speaker 2>ice that would then melt throughout the day and that's

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<v Speaker 2>what they would drink. There are too many Australians who

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<v Speaker 2>are suffering and have suffered for a long time, people

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<v Speaker 2>who are largely forgotten by most of the media, but

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<v Speaker 2>thankfully not by Peter Dutton in the very way he

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<v Speaker 2>framed what he plans to do with his Prime ministership.

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<v Speaker 2>But to get there, he tells the story that we

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<v Speaker 2>have told nightly and you have lived every day of

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<v Speaker 2>the past three years.

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<v Speaker 3>Your bills tell the true story of Labour's cost of

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<v Speaker 3>living crisis. And here's the facts of the Albanesi government's

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<v Speaker 3>economic record. Rents are up by at percent, housing is

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<v Speaker 3>up by fourteen percent, groceries up by staggering thirty percent,

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<v Speaker 3>Electricity is up by thirty two percent, and insurance is

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<v Speaker 3>up for many households and businesses by thirty five percent.

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<v Speaker 2>He brought to the National Conversation here's moment to be

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<v Speaker 2>heard uninterrupted for thirty minutes across the airwaves of Australia,

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<v Speaker 2>the stories of those that are ohso forgotten by too many.

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<v Speaker 3>In Perth, a mum in a grocery store in tears

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<v Speaker 3>told me how her her husband and children couldn't keep

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<v Speaker 3>their heads above water with the bills stacking up. In Adelaide,

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<v Speaker 3>I spoke with a food manufacturer whose electricity prices had

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<v Speaker 3>gone up by about three hundred percent. In Victoria, I

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<v Speaker 3>spoke with a supermarketing employee, a woman in her sixties

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<v Speaker 3>who had a machete held against her throat during a robbery.

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<v Speaker 3>In Brisbane, I listened to a young couple in their

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<v Speaker 3>thirties who have moved back in with their parents because

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<v Speaker 3>they simply can't buy a home even though both of

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<v Speaker 3>them are working. Over time, for so many Australians, aspiration

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<v Speaker 3>has turned to anxiety, optimism to pessimism, a national confidence

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<v Speaker 3>to national uncertainty. The truth is Australians can't afford three

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<v Speaker 3>more years of the Albanesi government.

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<v Speaker 2>Too much of our politics is about what's in it

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<v Speaker 2>for me. But as opposed to five dollars in fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>months time, harving of petrol tax in this country again

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<v Speaker 2>something we've spoken about for such a long time, something

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<v Speaker 2>that the Prime Minister has ignored at the height of.

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<v Speaker 1>The difficulties of the past three years.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Peter Dunton now has turned every single petrol station

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<v Speaker 2>and its price board into a billboard for his case

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<v Speaker 2>for change, because upon his election the fuel tax will

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<v Speaker 2>be halved.

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<v Speaker 3>A coalition government will have the fuel excise for twelve

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<v Speaker 3>months and then we'll review it and we'll make sure

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<v Speaker 3>that that comes in on the first day that our

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<v Speaker 3>Parliament sits. For a household with one car filling up

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<v Speaker 3>once a week, that's a savings of about fourteen dollars

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<v Speaker 3>a week, or around seven hundred dollars over the year.

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<v Speaker 3>For a household with two cars filling up once a week,

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<v Speaker 3>that is a savings of twenty eight dollars a week

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<v Speaker 3>or around fifteen hundred dollars over twelve months.

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<v Speaker 2>And this will not make the front pages. It will

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<v Speaker 2>be barely mentioned anywhere but here. But as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>part of the litany of failures of this government, the

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<v Speaker 2>promise to make things better is the three point seven

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<v Speaker 2>million Australian households. There's multiple people in those households, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's more than that number don't know where their food's

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<v Speaker 2>going to come from. Each and every week, they run

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<v Speaker 2>out of food by a Thursday night. They're worried about

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<v Speaker 2>what they're going to give their kids for lunch, if anything, tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>The federal government spends hundreds of billions of dollars at

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<v Speaker 2>a time when charities are serving people around the block

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to food. Finally, a leader who recognizes

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<v Speaker 2>that the help that is needed now is to give

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<v Speaker 2>extra money to the charities who are doing that help now, to.

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<v Speaker 3>Scale up assistance and provide immediate relief. We will commit

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<v Speaker 3>fifty million dollars for food charities like food banks, second

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<v Speaker 3>by Ite and oz Harvest to expand their services and

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<v Speaker 3>to include school breakfast programs.

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<v Speaker 2>The five things you need to know about the Dutton

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<v Speaker 2>speech delivered with passion and force tonight. A man who

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<v Speaker 2>wants to take the country back in the right direction.

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<v Speaker 2>Immediate help upon his election. The second a real plan

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<v Speaker 2>for the future, not just bribes to get through an election.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the key things that was announced today and

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<v Speaker 2>will be repeated all the way through the election is

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<v Speaker 2>it's one thing to make a vague promise, It's another

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<v Speaker 2>thing to hold up a piece of paper that you

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<v Speaker 2>will pass through the Parliament and make the law of

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<v Speaker 2>the land.

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<v Speaker 3>Tonight, I commit a coalition government to the following. We

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<v Speaker 3>will introduce four critical pieces of legislation on the first

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<v Speaker 3>sitting day in the next Parliament. One the Energy Price

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<v Speaker 3>Reduction Bill, to the Lower Immigration and More Homes for

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<v Speaker 3>Australian's Bill, the Keep Australian Safe Bill, and the Guaranteed

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<v Speaker 3>Funding for Health, Education and Essential Services Bill. Part of

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<v Speaker 3>all of these plans is to make sure that more

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<v Speaker 3>gas is going to be put into the system, and

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<v Speaker 3>the gas that is produced by the system currently will

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<v Speaker 3>now start to be put aside a national reservation of gas,

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<v Speaker 3>meaning that we will not be affected by what happens

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<v Speaker 3>around the world. We will be able to set our

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<v Speaker 3>own price on the technology that will get us through

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<v Speaker 3>the next decades. This plan will prioritize domestic gas supply,

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<v Speaker 3>address shortfalls and reduce energy for Australians. This is all

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<v Speaker 3>about ensuring Australian gas is for Australians. We will immediately

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<v Speaker 3>introduce an East Coast gas reservation. This will secure an

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<v Speaker 3>additional ten to twenty percent of these coast demand gas

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<v Speaker 3>which would otherwise be exported for use in other markets

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<v Speaker 3>by consumers in those countries.

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<v Speaker 2>And despite what it will be said, Australians are very

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<v Speaker 2>accepting and we don't care from where you come as

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<v Speaker 2>long as you recognize the laws of this land as

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<v Speaker 2>opposed to the grievances of previous lands. But the reality

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<v Speaker 2>is that with more than a million people that have

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<v Speaker 2>come in under this government, that's an extra million people

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<v Speaker 2>who have caused further delays in you being able to

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<v Speaker 2>find our rental property, more people competing when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to an auction, more difficulties when it comes to ambulance

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<v Speaker 2>ramping or immigration will be cut by twenty five percent.

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<v Speaker 3>We will cut the permanent migration by twenty five percent.

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<v Speaker 3>We will ban foreign investors in temporary residents from purchasing

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<v Speaker 3>existing Australian homes.

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<v Speaker 1>For a period of two years.

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<v Speaker 3>We will set stricter caps on foreign students to relieve

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<v Speaker 3>stress on rental markets. And we will invest five billion

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<v Speaker 3>dollars in essential infrastructure to get stalled housing projects up

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<v Speaker 3>and going, and it's going to create five hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 3>new homes. Will allow for first home buyers to access

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<v Speaker 3>up to fifty thousand dollars of their super for home

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<v Speaker 3>deposit because it's better to get into home sooner.

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<v Speaker 2>Number three in the five things that you need to

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<v Speaker 2>know about the speech, and I employ you to go

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<v Speaker 2>and watch it all in full at skynews dot com

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<v Speaker 2>dot au. He has raised the stakes of the election. Remember,

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<v Speaker 2>more than half of the country says we're headed in

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<v Speaker 2>the wrong direction. More than half of the country is

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<v Speaker 2>dissatisfied with the Prime minister's leadership.

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<v Speaker 1>Here he was putting.

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<v Speaker 2>It on the table about how important your vote is

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<v Speaker 2>in just a few weeks time. Now, every election is important,

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<v Speaker 2>but this election does matter more than others in recent history.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a sliding doors moment for our nation. A

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<v Speaker 2>return to Albaneza government in any form won't just be

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<v Speaker 2>another three bleak years. More economic mistakes will take a

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<v Speaker 2>lot longer to recover from. Setbacks will be set in stone,

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<v Speaker 2>and our prosperity will be damaged.

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<v Speaker 3>For decades to come. But you have the power to

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<v Speaker 3>change the path our country is on. You have the

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<v Speaker 3>ability to reverse decline, and you have the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 3>get our country back on track.

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<v Speaker 2>As part of that, he also Front and Senate. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>remember this election in terms of the six PM News

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<v Speaker 2>is decided by the people who cover it. We have

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<v Speaker 2>shown you how they will spin the ball and give

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<v Speaker 2>the benefit of the doubt to the existing government for

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<v Speaker 2>a whole collection of reasons, but most notably because they

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<v Speaker 2>like that side being in power. It's time in a

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<v Speaker 2>speech like this, with hundreds of thousands of people watching

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<v Speaker 2>live and many more than will watch it online in

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<v Speaker 2>the coming days, to batter away the BS to take

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<v Speaker 2>on what will inevitably be Labour's campaign of lies.

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<v Speaker 3>For three years, Labor pedaled the lie that they inherited

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<v Speaker 3>a trillion dollars of debt. Yet in the budget papers

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<v Speaker 3>that we saw on Tuesday night they confirm that the

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<v Speaker 3>Labor Party will burden Australia with the trillion dollars of

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<v Speaker 3>debt as of next year. Tuesday's budget was one for

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<v Speaker 3>the next five weeks, not one for the next five years.

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<v Speaker 2>And if anyone between now an election day wants to

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<v Speaker 2>tell you that the alternative Prime Minister his alternative team

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<v Speaker 2>will do anything but help healthcare in this country, show

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<v Speaker 2>them this.

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<v Speaker 3>When a government doesn't have any achievements to speak about,

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<v Speaker 3>which is the reality for this government, it resorts to

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<v Speaker 3>smears and scare campaigns there's no greater sign of the

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<v Speaker 3>Albernezy Gubert's desperation that it's Many Scare campaign, Labour's third

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<v Speaker 3>attempt in less than a decade where there's the biggest

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<v Speaker 3>strain on services. We will guarantee cheaper medicines and lower

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<v Speaker 3>the pharmaceutical benefit scheme co payment to twenty five dollars,

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<v Speaker 3>and will invest five hundred million dollars into women's health.

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<v Speaker 3>And we'll double the subsidized middle health sessions from ten

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<v Speaker 3>to twenty and make this arrangement and make this arrangement permanent.

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<v Speaker 2>That's really important because we know the kids aren't all right.

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<v Speaker 2>We know that there are plenty of people struggling no

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<v Speaker 2>matter where you live, from the biggest of cities to

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<v Speaker 2>the most remote parts of this beautiful country. That is

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<v Speaker 2>a really big announcement. Nine and a half billion dollars

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to dealing with health, particular focuses on

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<v Speaker 2>mental health, particular focus in that on youth mental health.

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<v Speaker 2>The fourth he's backing in small business. Now, small business

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<v Speaker 2>employs so many people. All business is a way that

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<v Speaker 2>people are able to fend for themselves. Much of the

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<v Speaker 2>project of the modern labor left, which is now the

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<v Speaker 2>modern labor party is to create a triangle of dependence.

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<v Speaker 2>The triangle of dependence where you're reliant on the state

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<v Speaker 2>for the handout, your reliant on the state because you

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<v Speaker 2>work for it, or if you're in business, the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>client is the state.

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<v Speaker 1>Therefore you never rock the boat.

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<v Speaker 2>This is how labor has stayed in power, and Victoria

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<v Speaker 2>for the best part of thirty years has had a

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<v Speaker 2>similar hold until recently in places like Queensland. But if

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<v Speaker 2>you decide to start your own business, no matter what

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<v Speaker 2>happens to be, you know the only way to get

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<v Speaker 2>a pay rise is to get up earlier and go

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<v Speaker 2>to bed later. And your taxation is something that should

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<v Speaker 2>be as minimized as possible. So the incident asset right

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<v Speaker 2>off that this government has completely removed will be back

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<v Speaker 2>in a big way, meaning that if you are running

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<v Speaker 2>anything from a hairdressers to a local lawn care business,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll be able to buy things for your business and

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<v Speaker 2>write it off against tax. Reviving growth, mister Speaker also

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<v Speaker 2>means having the back of small business, including tax relief.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got tax relief coming for small business. We will

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<v Speaker 2>increase the instant asset right off from one thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>under this government to thirty thousand dollars, and we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to make that arrangement ongoing. We will provide a deduction

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<v Speaker 2>of up to twenty thousand dollars per year for small

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<v Speaker 2>businesses for business related meal expenses, which is also a

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<v Speaker 2>much needed shot in the arm for struggling cafes, restaurants

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<v Speaker 2>and pubs. It will allow a local real estate agency

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<v Speaker 2>or a builder to take staff to a local cafe

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<v Speaker 2>to celebrate a big sales event or simply to say

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<v Speaker 2>thank you to their hardworking employees. It creates jobs and

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<v Speaker 2>it supports the struggling hospitality sector. I want small businesses

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<v Speaker 2>to be taking risks, calculated risks, not shutting up shop.

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<v Speaker 2>And for so many Australians, it's not about how much money.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not about what's in it. For me, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>about the bribes, the giveaways or the distractions. Which brings

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<v Speaker 2>me to the fifth thing to know about Peter Dutton's speech,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is that he defended values and he has

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<v Speaker 2>set a.

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<v Speaker 1>Path to pride for our future generations.

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<v Speaker 3>We will nurture pride and unity in our country. We

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<v Speaker 3>will provide support to the Australian Defense Force to keep

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<v Speaker 3>us safe today and into generations ahead, at a time when.

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<v Speaker 1>We most need it.

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<v Speaker 3>That starts, of course, by making sure that we don't

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<v Speaker 3>fail young Australians, and I think this is an incredibly

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<v Speaker 3>important point. A coalition government will restore a curriculum that

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<v Speaker 3>teaches the core fundamentals in our classrooms, a curriculum that

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<v Speaker 3>cultivates critical thinking, responsible citizenship and common sense.

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<v Speaker 2>These are the focuses of a Dutton government. That education matters,

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<v Speaker 2>That pride in your nation matters. That making sure that

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<v Speaker 2>a country that is focused on its future matters, and

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<v Speaker 2>that comes from the top. This Prime Minister has a

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<v Speaker 2>disapproval rating above fifty percent. More people are unimpressed with

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<v Speaker 2>his leadership than impressed with his leadership. Something Peter Dutton

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<v Speaker 2>promises to change.

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<v Speaker 3>I will be a strong leader with a steady hand.

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<v Speaker 3>I will make the tough decisions, not shirk them. I

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<v Speaker 3>will put the national interest first. I will lead with conviction,

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<v Speaker 3>not walk both sides of the street.

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<v Speaker 2>And his closing pitch, which will be heard in many

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<v Speaker 2>ways over many days between now and when you get

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<v Speaker 2>the chance to vote for or against the current government.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the closing argument of a man who is

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<v Speaker 2>ready to lead.

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<v Speaker 3>Australians are worse off under the Albansia government and Australians

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<v Speaker 3>cannot afford three more years of this bad labor government.

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<v Speaker 3>I say to Australians tonight, at this election, you can

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<v Speaker 3>make the right choice, a better choice for you, a

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<v Speaker 3>better choice for your family, and a better choice for

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<v Speaker 3>your country. Together, let's build a stronger, safer and better

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<v Speaker 3>Australia and let's together get our country back on track.

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<v Speaker 2>So game on the best place to be here each

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<v Speaker 2>and every night and all day with us at Sky News.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that elections bring out the best in.

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<v Speaker 2>Us and we will have every moment of it covered,

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<v Speaker 2>from the campaign buses, to the promises, to the media tricks,

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<v Speaker 2>to the lies, and to the entire opportunity to put

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<v Speaker 2>the country in the right direction. We'll be into all

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<v Speaker 2>of that tomorrow. The Governor General will be called upon

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<v Speaker 2>by the Prime Minister. Expectation is that happens during all

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<v Speaker 2>of the breakfast TV shows, so as many eyes are

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<v Speaker 2>on it as possible to try to change the subject

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<v Speaker 2>from the speech that's just happened tonight, but also to

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<v Speaker 2>end our long national nightmare. For goodness sake, when it

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<v Speaker 2>is this to start. The most likely election date is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be May the third, and again that will

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<v Speaker 2>be announced by the Prime Minister in the next little

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<v Speaker 2>wild that will be thirty seven days from now. Thirty

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<v Speaker 2>seven days of this prime minister, will he make history

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<v Speaker 2>as the first prime minister to be re elected since

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and four, or will be the first prime

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<v Speaker 2>minister to get the boot in a first term by

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<v Speaker 2>the Australian people not his party room, in over one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred years. You need seventy six seats to form a

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<v Speaker 2>majority in the Parliament, and the current numbers are the

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<v Speaker 2>Labor Party has seventy seven seats, the Liberal National Party

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<v Speaker 2>fifty three, Greens four and Independence fifteen. There's eighteen seats

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<v Speaker 2>that need to change hands for a change of majority rule.

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<v Speaker 2>But most expectations here.

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<v Speaker 1>Are that the.

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<v Speaker 2>Belief here, I should say, is that we're headed towards

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<v Speaker 2>a minority government, and whether that is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>minority Liberal or Labor government, of course, we will all

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<v Speaker 2>find out together. So here's the two things that you

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<v Speaker 2>need to know about the next little while, which is

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<v Speaker 2>that Labor is it going to be able to lose

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<v Speaker 2>two and still have a majority. This is different than

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<v Speaker 2>previous elections because first term governments in recent years, like

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<v Speaker 2>the Liberal government in twenty sixteen, they had a massive backbench.

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<v Speaker 2>The Labor government in twenty ten had a massive backbench.

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<v Speaker 2>He has just two the Libs, I said, sorry, eighteen before,

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<v Speaker 2>it's twenty one seats to win a majority. The current

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<v Speaker 2>projections are neither are going to get there and it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a minority government. So let's run around

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<v Speaker 2>the poles. Let's run around the bookies. Let's set the

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<v Speaker 2>market and then have a chat with a dear friend

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<v Speaker 2>about where we go from here. All right, the bookies,

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<v Speaker 2>well they are leaning Labour's way right now. This has

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<v Speaker 2>only changed in the past week or so, but all

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<v Speaker 2>of them are suggesting a relatively tight race, but one

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<v Speaker 2>currently they say Labor is going to win in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of the polls, or they move from the Liberal Party

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<v Speaker 2>at fifty one forty nine in news poll and the

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<v Speaker 2>fresh Water Pole to fifty to fifty in the Yugov

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<v Speaker 2>Pole to Labour being fifty in the red Bridge Pole

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<v Speaker 2>and Morgan way out in front in terms of where

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<v Speaker 2>they think the Labour Party is going to be. If

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<v Speaker 2>that's the case, they will increase the number of seats

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<v Speaker 2>they have in the Parliament. Now, Labour's primary vote is

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<v Speaker 2>down according to all of the polls based off the

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<v Speaker 2>previous election, and remember that was one of the worst

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<v Speaker 2>performances Labour had had in one hundred years. Red Bridge

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<v Speaker 2>says that their vote is down by one point News poll,

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<v Speaker 2>by two points, three points for Ugov Essential, and many more.

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<v Speaker 1>In the Resolve poll.

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<v Speaker 2>Although that pole is more than a month old and

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<v Speaker 2>the expectation is like all the others, that gets a

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<v Speaker 2>little tighter in the next of a while. For Peter

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<v Speaker 2>Dutton and the Opposition. Thirty six percent was what the

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<v Speaker 2>coalition got when it was removed from office three years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Their vote is up by at least three points in

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<v Speaker 2>the News pole, the Freshwater Pole and the Resolve Pole.

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<v Speaker 2>It's up by just a point in the red Bridge

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<v Speaker 2>and Ugov pole. And because Essential includes people who don't

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<v Speaker 2>know or undecided, they have got their vote at one

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<v Speaker 2>point less the Greens, what do they mean? Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>you add a Green vot to the Labor vote, so

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<v Speaker 2>you get more garbage like that. The Green's got twelve

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<v Speaker 2>percent of the last election. According to the Freshwater Pole

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<v Speaker 2>they are going to increase their vote, Ugov says the

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<v Speaker 2>same news poll. Resolve, Redbridge and Essential say they have

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<v Speaker 2>exactly the same performance that they did four years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>which produced four members in the Lower House. I think

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<v Speaker 2>the wildcard of the election is One Nation, because they

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<v Speaker 2>got five percent of the last federal election. According to

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<v Speaker 2>the Resolve poll. However, they're up four points now. You

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<v Speaker 2>won't see this in other places because they don't like

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<v Speaker 2>to interview people from one Nation, but One Nation is

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<v Speaker 2>up by four points, by three points, and by two points.

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<v Speaker 2>Depending on the polls that you have a look at,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll hear a lot about the other vote or the

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<v Speaker 2>independent vote. Now it's hard to pull these apart from

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<v Speaker 2>what is the independent vote, what is the minor party vote?

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<v Speaker 2>What is the lamby vote? But the reality here is

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<v Speaker 2>that that vote was fourteen percent at the last election.

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<v Speaker 2>It is down in all of the polls that are

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<v Speaker 2>currently being put together. Another thing to remember going into

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<v Speaker 2>any federal election, Australia is a very big and very

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<v Speaker 2>different country. The politics of the South of Tasmania is

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<v Speaker 2>different than regional Queensland. What people care about in suburban

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<v Speaker 2>Perth may be different than what happens in Western Sydney.

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<v Speaker 2>The people of the Northern Territory South Australia may have

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<v Speaker 2>a different view than Victoria or New South Wales, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think we can all agree with the Act.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll end up voting Labor or Green. As for two

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<v Speaker 1>party preferred.

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<v Speaker 2>There has been some switches and the biggest switch is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be in Victoria. The Liberal Party's vote is up.

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<v Speaker 2>In New South Wales, the Labor Parti's vote is down

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<v Speaker 2>five points. That's a whole bunch of seats. The majority

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<v Speaker 2>of seats, if they are to change, would come out

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<v Speaker 2>of Victoria. Watch this space about whether Jacinta Allen makes

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<v Speaker 2>it through the campaign as the Victorian premier. In Queensland,

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<v Speaker 2>the Liberal Party advantage has been sliced by one point

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<v Speaker 2>but still remains fifty three to forty seven. Western Australia

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<v Speaker 2>very strong for Labour. The Leaps thought they could win

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<v Speaker 2>four seats, they'll probably get one. In South Australia, the

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<v Speaker 2>Labor Party is down one point but still remains in

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<v Speaker 2>front at fifty three forty seven. So finally, one thing

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<v Speaker 2>that many people don't talk about when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>elections is we talk about the number of seats that

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<v Speaker 2>an opposition needs an opposition needs. Instead, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about not just what an opposition needs, but also

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<v Speaker 2>what the opposition is defending, because in some ways they

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<v Speaker 2>have to outrun a teal while trying to catch the

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<v Speaker 2>Labor Party. Now a lot of numbers, but still think

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<v Speaker 2>about what I just showed you their state by state,

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<v Speaker 2>and it tells you the story. They are attacking in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five seats, this being the Liberal National Party they

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<v Speaker 2>are defending in fifteen. The ones they are attacking in

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<v Speaker 2>New South Wales is eight, seven in Victoria, three in Queensland,

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<v Speaker 2>three in Western Australia, two in the Northern Territory more

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<v Speaker 2>likely one South Australia one and Tasmania one. They are

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<v Speaker 2>defending either against the Labor Party or more likely independent

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<v Speaker 2>in some of these seats, four in New South Wales,

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<v Speaker 2>three in Victoria, four in Queensland, two in Western Australia,

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<v Speaker 2>and one each in South Australia and Tasmania. Game on, Baby,

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<v Speaker 2>Game on, my dear friend, my colleague, And thankfully she

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<v Speaker 2>stayed up late enough for us. And it was an

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<v Speaker 2>exciting day in Laura Jay's household, because a beautiful daughter

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<v Speaker 2>Sophie got to meet Jua Liper at.

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<v Speaker 1>A cafe today.

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<v Speaker 2>Laura Jays love you to see a rock star. So

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<v Speaker 2>let's go through this in chapter and verse. Thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for being patient, but let's deal with the speech. What

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<v Speaker 2>did you think of what Peter Dutton said and my

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<v Speaker 2>interpretation that he was matching the right track wrong track conversation?

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<v Speaker 1>What did you think?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think the tone of Peter Dutton is something

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<v Speaker 4>that shouldn't be overlooked. His authenticity and really he's willing

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<v Speaker 4>this to run a presidential campaign. Here he sees and

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<v Speaker 4>I think he's right at the best chance of winning

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<v Speaker 4>this election, winning the seats he needs to to get

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<v Speaker 4>into power pitting himself. I mean, we've seen a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of Jim Chalmers over the last week as well because

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<v Speaker 4>of the budget being handed down. I think Jim is

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<v Speaker 4>a much better media performer than Anthony Albenzi, but we've

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<v Speaker 4>kind of not seen a lot of Anthony Aberesi this week.

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<v Speaker 4>But once you get into an election campaign tomorrow, it

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<v Speaker 4>is head to head. We know we have a parliamentary system,

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<v Speaker 4>but that presidential style I think really will benefit Peter Dutton.

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<v Speaker 4>He's called himself a conviction politician. I think that's absolutely

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<v Speaker 4>right against what alber Eazi has been perceived as from

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<v Speaker 4>labor voters that he's weak. What is the point of him?

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<v Speaker 4>Does he look hungry enough to win this next election?

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<v Speaker 4>So look Peter utt describing as a sliding doors moment.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, are you better off than you were three

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<v Speaker 4>years ago? The answer is no to that. So painting

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<v Speaker 4>this is a hugely consequential election, I think cleverly without

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<v Speaker 4>really targeting the teals either. This really wedges the tials

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<v Speaker 4>for many reasons. But we can get into that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so let's get to you know what inevitably is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be the comparison, which is five dollars and

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen months or harving of petrol tax from day one?

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<v Speaker 1>Which one do you think?

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<v Speaker 4>Lands I think it's crazy brave to oppose that tax cut,

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<v Speaker 4>to be honest, because once you start explaining and getting

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<v Speaker 4>into detail, you start losing the argument. That's just how

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<v Speaker 4>politics works. It's not fair. But when you get into

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<v Speaker 4>a campaign and people are running busy lives and they

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<v Speaker 4>only hear snapshots here, and they're not like us who

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<v Speaker 4>are consuming the news every day, Paul, I think it's

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<v Speaker 4>really hard when you start equivocating and explaining, and that

0:25:34.800 --> 0:25:38.480
<v Speaker 4>headline of you know, I think it's really clever this

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<v Speaker 4>week what the government did, wedging the coalition passing this,

0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:44.800
<v Speaker 4>daring them to repeal it. I mean, for a start,

0:25:45.160 --> 0:25:47.479
<v Speaker 4>look at the Senate. I mean, he's going to inherit

0:25:47.520 --> 0:25:50.000
<v Speaker 4>the Senate even if he does win, how is he

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<v Speaker 4>going to repeal it in the first place? So he

0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:54.439
<v Speaker 4>inherits it, but he doesn't get any of the credit.

0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:57.600
<v Speaker 4>Labor goes into this campaign saying where are the Party

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<v Speaker 4>of Lower Income Taxes? So I spoke to Angus Taylor

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<v Speaker 4>about this state. It's really hard to get your head

0:26:01.720 --> 0:26:04.920
<v Speaker 4>around that. Yes, what is potent is that doesn't start

0:26:04.920 --> 0:26:07.240
<v Speaker 4>for fifteen months and it's a couple of coffee a week.

0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:10.920
<v Speaker 4>It's nothing. It's pitdling. But again when you get into

0:26:10.920 --> 0:26:14.120
<v Speaker 4>the detail, you start losing the argument. Dyley was really

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<v Speaker 4>interesting today as well. She's been calling for a fuel

0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:20.439
<v Speaker 4>tax excise cut for quite some time and this brings

0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:25.200
<v Speaker 4>in pensioners. So the positives of the fuel tax excise

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<v Speaker 4>cut is it those out sub suburban seats, particularly in

0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:33.200
<v Speaker 4>Sydney and Melbourne, Brisbane, in every state, to be honest,

0:26:33.760 --> 0:26:35.720
<v Speaker 4>and that's where it's going to hit. And that's where

0:26:36.040 --> 0:26:37.639
<v Speaker 4>this election is won and lost. As you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Now again I talk about this the attacking and defending

0:26:41.240 --> 0:26:44.720
<v Speaker 2>situation because again, you know, your best case scenario is

0:26:44.760 --> 0:26:47.399
<v Speaker 2>you get as close to government or you win government.

0:26:47.440 --> 0:26:50.040
<v Speaker 2>Worst case scenario is that you start to go backwards.

0:26:50.080 --> 0:26:51.320
<v Speaker 2>Now again, I'm not going to sit here and go

0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:53.880
<v Speaker 2>each and every seat, but again, attacking in twenty five,

0:26:53.960 --> 0:26:57.280
<v Speaker 2>defending in fifteen. Victoria a place that looks like it's

0:26:57.280 --> 0:26:59.199
<v Speaker 2>going to be I mean again, I'm not sure the

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<v Speaker 2>polls are hundred percent when it comes to Victoria. However,

0:27:02.040 --> 0:27:04.320
<v Speaker 2>I know how pissed off people are about the Labor

0:27:04.320 --> 0:27:06.639
<v Speaker 2>brand in Victoria, not pretending in any way, shape or

0:27:06.640 --> 0:27:09.479
<v Speaker 2>form whether they're going to leap into the arms of

0:27:09.800 --> 0:27:12.400
<v Speaker 2>inevitably Peter Dutton with all the scare campaigns, the Yuga

0:27:12.440 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 2>booger that they're going to run in the next little while.

0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:18.320
<v Speaker 2>This idea about how you have to attack and defend. Now,

0:27:18.359 --> 0:27:20.880
<v Speaker 2>obviously when it comes to the Labor Party, they've had

0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:22.560
<v Speaker 2>to do this on some level. When it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>the Greens, but obviously, as we've seen with those existing teals,

0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:29.199
<v Speaker 2>there's going to be a couple that are going to

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<v Speaker 2>come back. But then there's new fronts like places like

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<v Speaker 2>Bradfield on the far north shore of Sydney.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there are, but this is a really different campaign

0:27:39.400 --> 0:27:41.320
<v Speaker 4>and I think the Teals are all at sea at

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<v Speaker 4>the moment. I mean, last campaign, Paul, they're campaigning on

0:27:45.040 --> 0:27:48.040
<v Speaker 4>integrity and climate change. I mean it was pretty telling

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:51.960
<v Speaker 4>that Jim Chalmers did not mention climate change, emissions, renewable

0:27:52.080 --> 0:27:55.840
<v Speaker 4>energy once in his budget speech this week. The Teals,

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<v Speaker 4>I think I was trying to find where they're they

0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:03.240
<v Speaker 4>can get their hooks in at this election, because there's

0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:05.000
<v Speaker 4>not going to be in climate change, he says firmly.

0:28:05.040 --> 0:28:07.240
<v Speaker 4>Cost of living. I mean, Allegra Spender is the only

0:28:07.240 --> 0:28:09.840
<v Speaker 4>one that talks about tax reform. But if you're the

0:28:09.880 --> 0:28:13.000
<v Speaker 4>only one doing it and you're speaking from the sidelines,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know how effective that is. When it comes

0:28:15.920 --> 0:28:18.480
<v Speaker 4>to the gas reservation policy and you talk about Victoria,

0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:21.280
<v Speaker 4>all the poles are so bad. And what it's been

0:28:21.280 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 4>put to me is finally Victorians are catching up. They

0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:28.760
<v Speaker 4>are traumatized by Daniel Andrews and now finally after two years,

0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:32.280
<v Speaker 4>they've realized they're out of that Stockholm syndrome and they

0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:35.600
<v Speaker 4>cannot stand him. He's no longer in power anymore. But

0:28:35.600 --> 0:28:38.239
<v Speaker 4>that does have a flow through effect, particularly when it

0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:41.360
<v Speaker 4>comes to all these metrics and cost of living. House

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:44.920
<v Speaker 4>prices are down, their electricity bills are through the roof,

0:28:45.320 --> 0:28:49.880
<v Speaker 4>and you know they've got a moratorium on any gas

0:28:50.320 --> 0:28:53.520
<v Speaker 4>coming out of coming out of the ground in Victoria.

0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:56.800
<v Speaker 4>I mean it is for saying people to think that

0:28:56.880 --> 0:29:00.640
<v Speaker 4>we have to ship around gas from wa new terminal

0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:03.440
<v Speaker 4>ports in Victoria is just crazy. So on this gas

0:29:03.480 --> 0:29:08.360
<v Speaker 4>reservation policy, the details, look, it is so complex, the

0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:11.400
<v Speaker 4>system is such a mess, but all the experts agree

0:29:11.440 --> 0:29:14.560
<v Speaker 4>if you're going to keep prices with a little bit

0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:17.000
<v Speaker 4>of a lid on it, you have to do something

0:29:17.080 --> 0:29:20.360
<v Speaker 4>big on gas. I am surprised the government has just

0:29:20.480 --> 0:29:23.640
<v Speaker 4>left that feel wide open for Peter Dutton. And this

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:26.720
<v Speaker 4>is going to be something that runs again. When you

0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:28.960
<v Speaker 4>get to the detail, you start losing the argument. But

0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:32.000
<v Speaker 4>it doesn't matter because what's Labour going to say. They'n

0:29:32.040 --> 0:29:33.960
<v Speaker 4>I've going to criticize Peter Dutton for trying to get

0:29:33.960 --> 0:29:36.560
<v Speaker 4>more gas in the system because they know that is

0:29:36.600 --> 0:29:37.520
<v Speaker 4>the only solution.

0:29:38.160 --> 0:29:38.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, as desperate as some of the lefties in the

0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:42.400
<v Speaker 2>press gallery word today to try to sort of find

0:29:42.440 --> 0:29:45.480
<v Speaker 2>this to be the issue. I think you are you

0:29:45.520 --> 0:29:47.320
<v Speaker 2>are right about where this goes in the next little while.

0:29:47.320 --> 0:29:49.720
<v Speaker 2>All right, let's talk about the political nerd in you,

0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:53.280
<v Speaker 2>who's done plenty of elections. What's the little details? Where

0:29:53.280 --> 0:29:55.360
<v Speaker 2>do your spidy senses go to try to work out

0:29:55.400 --> 0:29:56.040
<v Speaker 2>what's going on?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, look, I've been tracking the focus groups with a

0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:06.200
<v Speaker 4>Redbridge group for quite some time. As you know Simon Wells.

0:30:06.240 --> 0:30:09.000
<v Speaker 4>She's a former or is a psychologist, so the way

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 4>he conducts these groups is really interesting. And Anthony Alberizi

0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:18.200
<v Speaker 4>and his personal brand is just not there. There is

0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:22.160
<v Speaker 4>a factor for Peter Dutton where you know, people don't

0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:26.360
<v Speaker 4>really know who he is, and he's got some of that,

0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:30.040
<v Speaker 4>you know, there's negative aspects from when he was the

0:30:30.080 --> 0:30:34.520
<v Speaker 4>headkicker in the Liberal Party. So look, I think that

0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:37.040
<v Speaker 4>is that is a problem. But you've got to look

0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:41.360
<v Speaker 4>to seats like in out suburban and I think we've

0:30:41.360 --> 0:30:45.320
<v Speaker 4>got to watch Victoria really closely. Everyone you speak to

0:30:45.360 --> 0:30:48.560
<v Speaker 4>in Victoria says that labor it is just an absolute

0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 4>basket case for labor. But it's how those votes then

0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:57.040
<v Speaker 4>shift to the coalition there. I think there should there

0:30:57.080 --> 0:31:00.560
<v Speaker 4>could be a few surprises in this election, maybe on

0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:05.160
<v Speaker 4>one seat at least in Adelaide Tasmania. I mean that

0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:10.440
<v Speaker 4>the vote pool is so small that a small shift

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 4>can have a big difference there. And then you've got

0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:16.200
<v Speaker 4>w A just had a state election. There has been

0:31:16.800 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 4>a shift away from Labor. But also that shift didn't

0:31:21.320 --> 0:31:24.080
<v Speaker 4>go all the Liberals way, so I think that's a

0:31:24.080 --> 0:31:28.760
<v Speaker 4>little bit of concern there Again, the Teals, Paulie, I

0:31:28.760 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 4>think they probably all hold. Maybe not Kate Cheney, maybe

0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 4>not Sophie Scomp's. I mean, Nick Ryan in the last

0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:40.640
<v Speaker 4>couple of days has had a lot of bad press.

0:31:40.800 --> 0:31:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Imagine the colder in that house. You're sleeping in the

0:31:44.040 --> 0:31:47.360
<v Speaker 2>other room. He's in the doghouse at the farm.

0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:48.720
<v Speaker 4>Imagine that's how far.

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:51.480
<v Speaker 1>He is off. Oh, Laura, thank you, my friend.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, because one more thing, I just think, I just

0:31:54.920 --> 0:31:58.160
<v Speaker 4>think the best thing Peter Dutton's got going for him, sorry,

0:31:58.560 --> 0:32:02.360
<v Speaker 4>is that labor under to make him. They always have.

0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 4>And one thing he's got going fro him He's got

0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:08.800
<v Speaker 4>many things, by the way, is authenticity, and he's got

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 4>a great family behind him. He gets it. He lives

0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:14.360
<v Speaker 4>in the community, breathed the community. He was a copper

0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:16.680
<v Speaker 4>for some time, and he does have his finger on

0:32:16.680 --> 0:32:19.600
<v Speaker 4>the pulse. You know, didn't grow up in a political

0:32:19.680 --> 0:32:22.360
<v Speaker 4>family and become a staffer and do all that. And

0:32:22.560 --> 0:32:24.440
<v Speaker 4>just a check for you, Paul, because I knew you'd

0:32:24.480 --> 0:32:29.080
<v Speaker 4>be interested. Curly wasn't watching Maths tonight. She told me

0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:31.880
<v Speaker 4>that it's not on on a Thursday night, which I

0:32:31.960 --> 0:32:35.760
<v Speaker 4>didn't know, so I just had to check for you.

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 4>He wasn't watching Maths. Risk is okay?

0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:39.680
<v Speaker 5>Good.

0:32:39.760 --> 0:32:40.360
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it.

0:32:40.400 --> 0:32:42.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure she liked the shout out to from her

0:32:42.360 --> 0:32:44.400
<v Speaker 2>husband or at a big time ahead for her as well.

0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:45.920
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Laura. I'll see you in the morning. I'll

0:32:45.920 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 2>be part of everything as it all rolls apart and

0:32:48.200 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 2>will be with you from mind tomorrow morning. Thank you mate.

0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:52.320
<v Speaker 2>Thanks for having us over to your joint tonight. All right,

0:32:52.400 --> 0:32:54.440
<v Speaker 2>quick break back with more lots more to talk about

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:57.280
<v Speaker 2>about the election, about the speech, and then we'll get

0:32:57.280 --> 0:33:00.840
<v Speaker 2>into some other things, including a great example of journalists

0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:05.400
<v Speaker 2>who never gave up and guess what it was true.

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:08.040
<v Speaker 1>What they knew all along more in a second.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks very much. What a big weekend we've got coming up.

0:33:15.600 --> 0:33:18.320
<v Speaker 2>I can't wait to be in Toowoomba tomorrow and then

0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:19.840
<v Speaker 2>we're going to go off the to Wombe show. We're

0:33:19.840 --> 0:33:21.120
<v Speaker 2>going to go to the King of the Mountain which

0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:22.760
<v Speaker 2>is the Races. We're going to have some dinner with

0:33:22.800 --> 0:33:26.080
<v Speaker 2>some good friends there and we have a show Ouurtown

0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:29.120
<v Speaker 2>on Sunday night, and then on Monday the pub test.

0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:32.240
<v Speaker 2>Peter Duddon in his electorate election will have been called

0:33:32.240 --> 0:33:34.320
<v Speaker 2>by then. He'll have done had a big weekend, but

0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:36.800
<v Speaker 2>he's got a big message to sell and he's going

0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:39.960
<v Speaker 2>to be asked whatever the audience wants. I haven't even

0:33:40.080 --> 0:33:42.680
<v Speaker 2>seen the questions. That's the way it works is the

0:33:42.720 --> 0:33:46.080
<v Speaker 2>first people to apply, viewers of this program, ask the

0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:49.040
<v Speaker 2>alternative Prime Minister whatever they want. We've got a big

0:33:49.040 --> 0:33:51.560
<v Speaker 2>full house that's Monday night, so I must see stuff.

0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:53.680
<v Speaker 2>Speaking of You've got to keep with us now, because

0:33:53.680 --> 0:33:56.200
<v Speaker 2>none of them than James Ashby from One Nation joins

0:33:56.280 --> 0:33:58.800
<v Speaker 2>us and Linda Scott will still have the parish of

0:33:58.840 --> 0:34:00.960
<v Speaker 2>the Labor Party, but she's to say whatever she wants

0:34:01.000 --> 0:34:03.760
<v Speaker 2>right as a person of no fixed political address in

0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:06.400
<v Speaker 2>terms of an office. So James, what did you think

0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:08.960
<v Speaker 2>of the speech I saw pulling on before saying yep,

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:11.440
<v Speaker 2>thanks for backing in what I've said for a long time,

0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:13.280
<v Speaker 2>which is cut petrol tax.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well you can tell the experience from a bloke

0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:23.600
<v Speaker 6>who's held many different portfolios in previous governments and now

0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:26.480
<v Speaker 6>as the leader of the opposition, I think it doesn't

0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:29.920
<v Speaker 6>spoke very well tonight. I must say that if one

0:34:30.000 --> 0:34:32.239
<v Speaker 6>nation is in a balance of power scenario in the

0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:34.640
<v Speaker 6>next parliament, whether that be in a Senate or a

0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:37.480
<v Speaker 6>combined of lower House seats as well, there are a

0:34:37.560 --> 0:34:40.000
<v Speaker 6>number of policies there that the Liberals have adopted of

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:42.520
<v Speaker 6>one nations, as you're well aware, over time. We've been

0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:46.920
<v Speaker 6>talking about that domestic gas reservation policy for nine years now.

0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:50.040
<v Speaker 5>The apprenticeship schemes where we really want.

0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:54.160
<v Speaker 6>To bolster the apprentices of the future, we've already delivered

0:34:54.200 --> 0:34:57.040
<v Speaker 6>on those in the past. A fewel exercise tax we

0:34:57.080 --> 0:35:02.400
<v Speaker 6>announced in February, immigration cuts and of course access to superannuation,

0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:05.839
<v Speaker 6>not just for first time by as I might just say, Paul,

0:35:05.840 --> 0:35:08.479
<v Speaker 6>there's a lot of families that split up and often

0:35:08.520 --> 0:35:11.120
<v Speaker 6>the blokes are left homeless. They've got access to well,

0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:13.160
<v Speaker 6>they've got super, but they don't have access to it,

0:35:13.719 --> 0:35:14.320
<v Speaker 6>and I think.

0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:16.040
<v Speaker 5>That there's merit to expand that.

0:35:16.320 --> 0:35:18.279
<v Speaker 6>So they're things that we can certainly work with the

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:20.520
<v Speaker 6>coalition on, particularly if we do have that balance of

0:35:20.560 --> 0:35:21.280
<v Speaker 6>power in the Senate.

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Linda, no doubt you were thrilled.

0:35:23.520 --> 0:35:25.640
<v Speaker 2>You were leaning forward, you were writing down notes, you

0:35:25.680 --> 0:35:29.320
<v Speaker 2>were thinking, geez, I've joined the wrong party. Why was

0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:31.360
<v Speaker 2>this the worst speech you've ever seen in your life?

0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:33.319
<v Speaker 2>That scared you within an inch of your life. That

0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 2>means all of us should hide our children.

0:35:36.040 --> 0:35:38.520
<v Speaker 7>Look, I think the honest truth about this speech was

0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:41.879
<v Speaker 7>that Peter Dutton's pretty trapped in He doesn't have too

0:35:42.120 --> 0:35:45.520
<v Speaker 7>many new ideas for the future. And the difficult thing

0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:49.520
<v Speaker 7>is in the speech, in as James rightly says, adopting

0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:53.239
<v Speaker 7>a whole lot of one nation policies, he's essentially admitted

0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:56.600
<v Speaker 7>that he can't win any Teal seats. He didn't mention

0:35:56.880 --> 0:35:59.480
<v Speaker 7>net zero, he didn't mention climate change. Now, whatever you

0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:02.640
<v Speaker 7>think about those issues, he's not trying to pitch to

0:36:02.800 --> 0:36:04.520
<v Speaker 7>the middle ground of Australia.

0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:07.480
<v Speaker 8>I think this is a larger mission.

0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:11.239
<v Speaker 7>Brilliant dollar that he can't win in his own right.

0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:15.360
<v Speaker 7>He's not now aiming to win government. He's aiming maybe

0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:18.239
<v Speaker 7>to win a minority or you know, align himself with

0:36:19.000 --> 0:36:22.600
<v Speaker 7>James and Pauline Hanson and one nation. I think that's

0:36:22.800 --> 0:36:26.200
<v Speaker 7>that's pretty extraordinary actually as an admission from an opposition

0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:30.520
<v Speaker 7>leader tonight. He didn't barely mention anything about nuclear He's

0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:32.799
<v Speaker 7>not explaining where the six hundred million dollars is going

0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:36.240
<v Speaker 7>to come from in cuts. He's not explaining, like Jackie Lamby,

0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:39.600
<v Speaker 7>how he's going to explain the public service cuts?

0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:41.000
<v Speaker 8>Are they from veterans affairs?

0:36:41.040 --> 0:36:44.120
<v Speaker 7>You know, these are really important questions that he needs

0:36:44.120 --> 0:36:47.280
<v Speaker 7>to answer. As you say, Paul as the alternative leader

0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:48.040
<v Speaker 7>of this nation.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I just say about the teals? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>My feeling here is that I think that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Goldstein most likely gone, I reckon coot Young after the

0:36:56.960 --> 0:37:00.440
<v Speaker 2>behavior of mister Ryan, the first Gentleman, of course, because

0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:02.560
<v Speaker 2>she could be Prime Minister according to her own ego,

0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:06.080
<v Speaker 2>and I reckon Curtain. I reckon those three gone. Interesting

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<v Speaker 2>what's going to happen in and around Brisbane?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:12.480
<v Speaker 2>Because there are seats, the three seats that came to

0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:16.319
<v Speaker 2>the Greens. Now you've sort of got Labor and the

0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:19.319
<v Speaker 2>Liberal Party both believing that a Greens down means they're

0:37:19.360 --> 0:37:21.719
<v Speaker 2>going to step in. Interesting to note again about the

0:37:21.719 --> 0:37:25.040
<v Speaker 2>politics of Brisbane is that at a local government level,

0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:28.440
<v Speaker 2>the LNP has been able to hold onto that council

0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:31.239
<v Speaker 2>for a long time, so that is a bit of

0:37:31.280 --> 0:37:31.840
<v Speaker 2>an insight.

0:37:32.400 --> 0:37:35.040
<v Speaker 1>An insight Labor of course.

0:37:34.800 --> 0:37:36.480
<v Speaker 2>Say well, you know we're able to take a couple

0:37:36.520 --> 0:37:39.319
<v Speaker 2>of Green seats off at the state election. But be

0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:42.600
<v Speaker 2>fascinating around that and obviously we'll all dig in as

0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:46.160
<v Speaker 2>time goes. Let's get into that election preview chat and James,

0:37:46.160 --> 0:37:47.680
<v Speaker 2>I want to just just get straight to it.

0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Do you believe the polling that.

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<v Speaker 2>One nation's vote is up and maybe up by as

0:37:53.200 --> 0:37:57.160
<v Speaker 2>high as four five points since the last election. Because

0:37:57.200 --> 0:37:59.520
<v Speaker 2>if that's the case, very good for Malcolm Roberts going

0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:02.719
<v Speaker 2>for re election in Queensland. But it also activates the

0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:06.719
<v Speaker 2>preference question that worked for the Libs in twenty nineteen.

0:38:09.040 --> 0:38:11.480
<v Speaker 6>And I sense it'll work for them again at this

0:38:11.560 --> 0:38:13.680
<v Speaker 6>election too, Paul, because I'll make it very clear to

0:38:13.719 --> 0:38:15.759
<v Speaker 6>every viewer out there, Labor and the Greens are going

0:38:15.760 --> 0:38:16.839
<v Speaker 6>to last on one nation.

0:38:17.040 --> 0:38:18.839
<v Speaker 5>How to vote cards. It's up to you how your

0:38:18.920 --> 0:38:19.640
<v Speaker 5>number your boxes.

0:38:19.680 --> 0:38:22.200
<v Speaker 6>But our recommendation to you as voters will be to

0:38:22.239 --> 0:38:24.360
<v Speaker 6>put Labor in the Greens last, and where there is

0:38:24.400 --> 0:38:27.359
<v Speaker 6>a Teal in the mix, they will go down just

0:38:27.440 --> 0:38:29.840
<v Speaker 6>between Labor and the Greens.

0:38:30.000 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 5>So we're making a very clear stand there.

0:38:33.080 --> 0:38:36.760
<v Speaker 6>Look, we've always said that this Labor government has been toxic.

0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:40.959
<v Speaker 5>We have seen just in the Look I've just spent this.

0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:45.160
<v Speaker 6>Week down in Canberra. I only got back today. Everyone's glum.

0:38:45.400 --> 0:38:47.520
<v Speaker 6>It doesn't matter which side you're talking to, Labor or

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:50.600
<v Speaker 6>the Coalition. So from an observation point of view, I

0:38:50.640 --> 0:38:53.239
<v Speaker 6>don't think either side feel confident they're going to be

0:38:53.239 --> 0:38:56.080
<v Speaker 6>able to govern in their own right in the next parliament.

0:38:56.120 --> 0:38:58.200
<v Speaker 6>And then even if they do win the lower House,

0:38:59.160 --> 0:39:03.920
<v Speaker 6>you've got this bench of misfits in the Senate. Jackie Lamby's,

0:39:03.960 --> 0:39:08.400
<v Speaker 6>the Tammy Tyrrells, the David Pocox. We've got to change

0:39:08.480 --> 0:39:11.280
<v Speaker 6>the dynamics in the Senate because otherwise if Peter Dutton

0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:14.080
<v Speaker 6>wins the lower House, you've got big problems because you'll

0:39:14.120 --> 0:39:16.880
<v Speaker 6>never get anything through. Currently, the Greens and Labor, with

0:39:17.000 --> 0:39:19.880
<v Speaker 6>a couple of those half weeks from the cross bench,

0:39:20.640 --> 0:39:24.000
<v Speaker 6>dictate what legislation gets through. So unless one nation get

0:39:24.120 --> 0:39:28.799
<v Speaker 6>votes and senators in every state. We're going to have

0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:31.680
<v Speaker 6>a real problem with a coalition Conservative government even if

0:39:31.719 --> 0:39:34.279
<v Speaker 6>they do win. So that is imperative for every voter

0:39:34.400 --> 0:39:37.520
<v Speaker 6>out there. Make sure that we get a preference vote

0:39:37.920 --> 0:39:40.240
<v Speaker 6>in that top six in the Senate.

0:39:40.280 --> 0:39:46.560
<v Speaker 5>It's critical and we will hold whichever Labor or Liberal form.

0:39:46.360 --> 0:39:48.560
<v Speaker 6>Government, will hold them accountable if we've got that balance

0:39:48.560 --> 0:39:48.960
<v Speaker 6>of power.

0:39:49.360 --> 0:39:52.600
<v Speaker 5>But look, Paul, it's going to be very interesting.

0:39:52.640 --> 0:39:55.719
<v Speaker 6>I don't think many Australians are overly thrilled with what's

0:39:55.760 --> 0:39:57.400
<v Speaker 6>been delivered in the budget.

0:39:57.400 --> 0:39:58.400
<v Speaker 5>They're not engaged.

0:39:58.760 --> 0:40:00.960
<v Speaker 6>No one sees anything in it, all them and so

0:40:01.719 --> 0:40:03.879
<v Speaker 6>it's going to be tough to call. And the book

0:40:04.040 --> 0:40:06.160
<v Speaker 6>is look at them. They keep swinging. One week they're

0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:08.279
<v Speaker 6>saying Labor is going to win. Next week they'll say

0:40:08.280 --> 0:40:11.200
<v Speaker 6>the coalition. But I am starting to see green shoots

0:40:11.280 --> 0:40:12.920
<v Speaker 6>after Peter Dutton's speech tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree, Linda, as a person who has daor

0:40:16.480 --> 0:40:19.839
<v Speaker 2>Knock been elected, been part of the machine and been

0:40:19.840 --> 0:40:20.799
<v Speaker 2>outside of it as well.

0:40:21.160 --> 0:40:23.960
<v Speaker 1>When you are trying to represent the Labor Party and

0:40:24.000 --> 0:40:25.840
<v Speaker 1>there's the Greens or an independent that's.

0:40:25.640 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 2>There and somebody says one politics is broken, I just

0:40:29.000 --> 0:40:32.640
<v Speaker 2>really want someone who's going to be able to act

0:40:32.680 --> 0:40:34.800
<v Speaker 2>on our you know, the sort of empty calorie stuff.

0:40:36.000 --> 0:40:37.160
<v Speaker 1>How do you pull them back your way?

0:40:38.320 --> 0:40:41.600
<v Speaker 7>Look, I think people acknowledge that labor's had a difficult

0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:46.920
<v Speaker 7>time with a global inflationary environment and that's really hard.

0:40:47.000 --> 0:40:49.279
<v Speaker 7>They're also in a very volatile time with the new

0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:51.320
<v Speaker 7>Trump administration managing.

0:40:50.920 --> 0:40:53.640
<v Speaker 2>That I've got to run against him, got to get

0:40:53.680 --> 0:40:54.640
<v Speaker 2>a Trump mentioned off.

0:40:54.760 --> 0:40:57.640
<v Speaker 7>Peter Dutton, he's aligning himself with a number of Trump policies.

0:40:57.680 --> 0:40:59.560
<v Speaker 7>I think that does frighten Australians.

0:40:59.800 --> 0:41:01.880
<v Speaker 2>Trump the first person who ever thought it was that

0:41:02.120 --> 0:41:04.160
<v Speaker 2>the government was too big. He's the first person in

0:41:04.200 --> 0:41:07.120
<v Speaker 2>the history of global politics whoever thought this to be published.

0:41:07.160 --> 0:41:09.319
<v Speaker 7>You know, Peter Dutton again is adopting a lot of

0:41:09.360 --> 0:41:13.040
<v Speaker 7>those Trumpian policies and I think Australians are pretty frightened

0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:14.719
<v Speaker 7>of that. And when you dawknock people, when you have

0:41:14.840 --> 0:41:18.640
<v Speaker 7>that conversation with them, they are frightened of having that

0:41:18.760 --> 0:41:24.000
<v Speaker 7>kind of American conservatism imported over here. They understand that

0:41:24.120 --> 0:41:26.800
<v Speaker 7>if we have that kind of policy, it will destroy Medicare,

0:41:26.960 --> 0:41:30.359
<v Speaker 7>It will allow American pharmaceuticals to come in, come in

0:41:30.680 --> 0:41:33.160
<v Speaker 7>and take over the price of our medication which is

0:41:33.200 --> 0:41:36.160
<v Speaker 7>so protected by the PBS, now down to twenty five

0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:38.399
<v Speaker 7>dollars under a labor government like these are the kinds

0:41:38.440 --> 0:41:41.480
<v Speaker 7>of things that actually really matter to Australians and it's

0:41:42.000 --> 0:41:44.640
<v Speaker 7>you know, it's really important that we Dawn. We don't

0:41:44.640 --> 0:41:47.360
<v Speaker 7>take anything for granted, we ask for people's votes, but

0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:50.840
<v Speaker 7>they want to see a detailed vision and I think

0:41:51.160 --> 0:41:55.400
<v Speaker 7>Peter Dutton has not outlined an alternative vision for the

0:41:55.400 --> 0:41:56.880
<v Speaker 7>country of this nation tonight.

0:41:58.000 --> 0:42:04.160
<v Speaker 9>Policies from the you've got it yeahs Labour's run in

0:42:04.200 --> 0:42:07.040
<v Speaker 9>the country as we have done extremely well for three years,

0:42:07.080 --> 0:42:08.600
<v Speaker 9>and that is absolutely not true.

0:42:08.640 --> 0:42:10.120
<v Speaker 8>They've announced billions.

0:42:09.760 --> 0:42:13.920
<v Speaker 7>Of dollars the medications in the PBA, billions of dollars

0:42:13.960 --> 0:42:14.640
<v Speaker 7>for hell, no.

0:42:14.640 --> 0:42:18.360
<v Speaker 8>Policies up GP that have not been matched by the coalition.

0:42:18.440 --> 0:42:19.399
<v Speaker 1>All right, plenty more.

0:42:19.480 --> 0:42:21.520
<v Speaker 2>Let's get away from this type of politics and get

0:42:21.520 --> 0:42:23.319
<v Speaker 2>to another type of politics and we will crown a

0:42:23.320 --> 0:42:25.719
<v Speaker 2>winner and loser of the week and a wonderful example

0:42:25.960 --> 0:42:28.440
<v Speaker 2>of journalists who didn't take no for answer because they

0:42:28.560 --> 0:42:30.759
<v Speaker 2>knew what they were talking about was true or in

0:42:30.760 --> 0:42:31.879
<v Speaker 2>a secure on poor Murray life.

0:42:31.880 --> 0:42:32.440
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for watching.

0:42:37.560 --> 0:42:39.600
<v Speaker 2>I want to say well done to Jimmy Jones and

0:42:39.600 --> 0:42:42.040
<v Speaker 2>the team in the Adelaide Advertiser. It's an excellent newspaper.

0:42:42.120 --> 0:42:45.920
<v Speaker 2>She is an excellent journalist and spectacular editor. The former

0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:48.319
<v Speaker 2>leader of the Liberals in South Australia is a guy

0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:51.200
<v Speaker 2>called David Spears, and when videos came out of him

0:42:51.200 --> 0:42:54.920
<v Speaker 2>snorting a white substance, they were apparently, according to the

0:42:55.480 --> 0:42:59.640
<v Speaker 2>now former MP, a deep fake. He'd never ever been

0:42:59.640 --> 0:43:02.239
<v Speaker 2>involved than anything to do with things like that. Well,

0:43:02.360 --> 0:43:06.200
<v Speaker 2>the front page of the Adelaide Advertiser confirms that exactly

0:43:06.480 --> 0:43:08.879
<v Speaker 2>what they said was true is true. He has pled

0:43:08.920 --> 0:43:13.320
<v Speaker 2>guilty to multiple drugs charges in a South Australian court today.

0:43:13.920 --> 0:43:17.120
<v Speaker 2>He was asked by the judge about whether he had

0:43:17.120 --> 0:43:21.680
<v Speaker 2>supplied a controlled drug substance to two separate people in August.

0:43:21.760 --> 0:43:22.720
<v Speaker 1>He said guilty.

0:43:23.200 --> 0:43:24.960
<v Speaker 2>He is now looking down the barrel of tens of

0:43:24.960 --> 0:43:26.759
<v Speaker 2>thousands of dollars of fine, are up to a ten

0:43:26.880 --> 0:43:30.439
<v Speaker 2>year jail term. Well done, Gemma World done, TiSER, well done,

0:43:30.640 --> 0:43:32.160
<v Speaker 2>and there was a lot coming back at them. I'm

0:43:32.200 --> 0:43:35.520
<v Speaker 2>telling you the blowback on this was huge, but they

0:43:35.640 --> 0:43:39.960
<v Speaker 2>held their ground and they were right well done. Let's

0:43:40.000 --> 0:43:43.720
<v Speaker 2>continue our conversation with James Ashby and with Linda Scott,

0:43:43.960 --> 0:43:47.600
<v Speaker 2>let's do a speed round now, James, Nature Positive back

0:43:47.640 --> 0:43:50.319
<v Speaker 2>on the table now. The Prime Minister pulled they said

0:43:50.360 --> 0:43:52.640
<v Speaker 2>it was dead. Well now it's back and this is

0:43:52.640 --> 0:43:54.759
<v Speaker 2>going to be big trouble at the election again in

0:43:54.800 --> 0:44:00.040
<v Speaker 2>places like Western Australia it is a massive issue.

0:44:00.960 --> 0:44:03.280
<v Speaker 6>Well, they've had to go through it, particularly with Cultural

0:44:03.320 --> 0:44:06.719
<v Speaker 6>Heritage Act which comes into play with this Nature Positive

0:44:06.760 --> 0:44:09.759
<v Speaker 6>plan as well. I note though, Paul, if you have

0:44:09.760 --> 0:44:11.680
<v Speaker 6>a look at a press release at Tenure Pleavu.

0:44:11.520 --> 0:44:14.240
<v Speaker 5>Sect put out last week, they committed five.

0:44:14.160 --> 0:44:18.120
<v Speaker 6>Hundred million dollars more money to locking up. They've guaranteed

0:44:18.200 --> 0:44:20.640
<v Speaker 6>now thirty percent of the land and ocean.

0:44:20.640 --> 0:44:21.640
<v Speaker 5>They've just done it in.

0:44:21.560 --> 0:44:25.480
<v Speaker 6>A little different department, different pot of cash, and so

0:44:25.520 --> 0:44:27.239
<v Speaker 6>they have achieved that and that's what they set out

0:44:27.239 --> 0:44:29.239
<v Speaker 6>to do in the Nature Positive Plan. So they are

0:44:29.280 --> 0:44:31.560
<v Speaker 6>slightly but surely implementing this whether we like it or not.

0:44:31.960 --> 0:44:34.920
<v Speaker 6>But to set back on the agenda after only a

0:44:34.960 --> 0:44:37.440
<v Speaker 6>couple of months ago the Prime Minister said it was dead,

0:44:37.640 --> 0:44:40.120
<v Speaker 6>nothing to worry about. Now we do have to worry

0:44:40.120 --> 0:44:42.799
<v Speaker 6>about this because this has clearly been put back on

0:44:43.200 --> 0:44:46.480
<v Speaker 6>to win the love of the left faction within Labor,

0:44:46.680 --> 0:44:50.560
<v Speaker 6>but also too to show environmental credentials to both the

0:44:50.600 --> 0:44:53.239
<v Speaker 6>Teals and the Greens ahead of this election. So it

0:44:53.320 --> 0:44:56.480
<v Speaker 6>is doomsday if Labour get back in, particularly if that

0:44:56.600 --> 0:44:59.720
<v Speaker 6>nature positive plan gets up. So I just caution everybody

0:45:00.160 --> 0:45:03.719
<v Speaker 6>so much we don't know that wasn't announced in Jim

0:45:03.760 --> 0:45:07.440
<v Speaker 6>Chalmer's budget this week, that will pop up, that will happen,

0:45:07.600 --> 0:45:11.719
<v Speaker 6>that will have enormous impacts on industries and businesses that

0:45:11.800 --> 0:45:13.840
<v Speaker 6>we all rely on in this country.

0:45:13.960 --> 0:45:17.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, and remember before the last election, literally a day

0:45:17.680 --> 0:45:19.440
<v Speaker 2>before the last election, as a way to try to

0:45:19.480 --> 0:45:22.520
<v Speaker 2>save Terry Butler from losing to the Greens in Griffith,

0:45:22.760 --> 0:45:26.560
<v Speaker 2>that's when they announced there the federal EPA. Of course

0:45:26.600 --> 0:45:29.960
<v Speaker 2>this was basically on the table, no chance for it

0:45:30.000 --> 0:45:33.719
<v Speaker 2>to be debated. Nature Positive should be debated all election long. Again,

0:45:33.800 --> 0:45:35.920
<v Speaker 2>speed round means not debate on everything. But let's get

0:45:35.920 --> 0:45:38.520
<v Speaker 2>to some other things. Queensland have released their plan about

0:45:38.520 --> 0:45:40.840
<v Speaker 2>what they're going to do with the twenty thirty two games,

0:45:41.000 --> 0:45:43.319
<v Speaker 2>and whoever was in charge of the packaging compliments to

0:45:43.320 --> 0:45:46.000
<v Speaker 2>the chef because they've been able to basically say that

0:45:46.080 --> 0:45:48.640
<v Speaker 2>every light bulb they're changing at a local footy oval

0:45:48.640 --> 0:45:50.919
<v Speaker 2>all the way through to a new stadium at Victoria Park.

0:45:51.120 --> 0:45:54.600
<v Speaker 2>It's all about the Brisbane twenty three thirty two games.

0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:57.000
<v Speaker 2>I even loved it. In the launch video there was

0:45:57.040 --> 0:46:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Steve Irwin and there was Queensland. I loved it was great,

0:46:00.200 --> 0:46:01.759
<v Speaker 2>as you know, as a person who'd love to be

0:46:01.840 --> 0:46:02.439
<v Speaker 2>one one day.

0:46:02.520 --> 0:46:04.719
<v Speaker 1>It was a lovely little bit of packaging for Queensland.

0:46:06.120 --> 0:46:08.200
<v Speaker 2>Really good about this is things like equestrians going to

0:46:08.239 --> 0:46:10.160
<v Speaker 2>be based in and around to Woomba, where we're going

0:46:10.200 --> 0:46:13.840
<v Speaker 2>to be this weekend. These are opportunities, aren't they for

0:46:14.080 --> 0:46:18.080
<v Speaker 2>government and local government to really big up things for

0:46:18.160 --> 0:46:20.960
<v Speaker 2>a long period of time down the road. Yeah.

0:46:21.000 --> 0:46:22.000
<v Speaker 8>Look, I think it's lovely.

0:46:22.080 --> 0:46:24.720
<v Speaker 7>My lovely friend, the Deputy mayor up into Woomba, Rebecca

0:46:24.760 --> 0:46:27.680
<v Speaker 7>von Hoff, was so thrilled this week when the equestrian

0:46:27.719 --> 0:46:30.120
<v Speaker 7>events were announced for to Womba. This is a big

0:46:30.120 --> 0:46:33.240
<v Speaker 7>deal for regional Australia, right. You get to see infrastructure

0:46:33.320 --> 0:46:36.200
<v Speaker 7>built during time of Olympics that you wouldn't otherwise get

0:46:36.200 --> 0:46:37.840
<v Speaker 7>to see, and then communities get to use them for

0:46:37.880 --> 0:46:41.200
<v Speaker 7>a lifetime. In Sydney we absolutely have the privilege of

0:46:41.320 --> 0:46:43.799
<v Speaker 7>using a lot of the pools and the stadiums and

0:46:43.800 --> 0:46:46.600
<v Speaker 7>the infrastructure that came out of the Sydney two thousand

0:46:46.680 --> 0:46:49.440
<v Speaker 7>Olympics and there is a lasting legacy there and if

0:46:49.440 --> 0:46:51.279
<v Speaker 7>you spread it out a little bit and do it

0:46:51.280 --> 0:46:55.120
<v Speaker 7>across those regional areas. So congratulations that I want to say,

0:46:55.280 --> 0:46:57.560
<v Speaker 7>this idea to get these games, do you it to

0:46:57.560 --> 0:46:59.120
<v Speaker 7>originate from Queensland?

0:46:59.200 --> 0:47:02.759
<v Speaker 4>Mays that is true.

0:47:02.760 --> 0:47:06.080
<v Speaker 7>I'm going to go Pale Council came from the mayors

0:47:06.440 --> 0:47:10.320
<v Speaker 7>Rebecca and the to Woomba Council have been advocating hard

0:47:10.360 --> 0:47:14.680
<v Speaker 7>to get facilities into Woomba. So I'm celebrating right there

0:47:14.680 --> 0:47:17.520
<v Speaker 7>with you all of to Woomba to see that equestrian

0:47:17.560 --> 0:47:22.120
<v Speaker 7>facility that's going to be supported through this Olympic campaign.

0:47:22.200 --> 0:47:24.080
<v Speaker 7>Can't wait to see the event, James.

0:47:23.800 --> 0:47:24.759
<v Speaker 1>What does your poon get?

0:47:24.880 --> 0:47:26.680
<v Speaker 2>Is your pon getting something or is it a place

0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:28.480
<v Speaker 2>where people who don't want to be near the games

0:47:28.520 --> 0:47:31.680
<v Speaker 2>get to go and get in the Airbnbs around you?

0:47:33.600 --> 0:47:35.880
<v Speaker 6>We get stuff all mate, And I've got to be honest,

0:47:35.920 --> 0:47:38.000
<v Speaker 6>I don't want it either. Look I've been one of

0:47:38.040 --> 0:47:40.960
<v Speaker 6>those people that haven't been fond on the expense package

0:47:41.000 --> 0:47:43.400
<v Speaker 6>that's going to be put towards this Olympics, especially when

0:47:43.440 --> 0:47:45.680
<v Speaker 6>we've got a trillion dollars worth of debt. Let's not

0:47:45.760 --> 0:47:48.760
<v Speaker 6>forget that. And here we are. Look, these things always

0:47:48.760 --> 0:47:50.480
<v Speaker 6>blow out the Olympics, so I've not been a big

0:47:50.480 --> 0:47:53.520
<v Speaker 6>fan of it. Look from a legacy point of view,

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<v Speaker 6>I know there'll be a lot of people in ten

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<v Speaker 6>twenty years time to go wow, I wasn't that great.

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<v Speaker 6>We ended up at the stadium at the end of it.

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<v Speaker 6>But again it's all down in the southeast corner. The

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<v Speaker 6>large amount of the money has been spent down there.

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<v Speaker 6>We get a few light bulbs, as they said, for

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<v Speaker 6>sports rivals, big bloody deal. Sorry, in regional parts it's

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<v Speaker 6>we won't get we won't get the benefitball, all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Winners and losers of the week, Linda, who stands

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<v Speaker 1>out for you?

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<v Speaker 8>Mate? Albow Jim Charmas, what a budget?

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<v Speaker 7>Magnificent tax cuts that paid it out in the post.

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<v Speaker 8>So the loser of the week is pet out.

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<v Speaker 7>How would you oppose legislated tax cuts less than one

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<v Speaker 7>hundred days out from the election?

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<v Speaker 8>Beyond me anyway?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, we look forward to your position and

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<v Speaker 2>the party. So when it comes to fuel excise in

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<v Speaker 2>the next little while. All right, Remember they put it

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<v Speaker 2>up to fifty cents a leader, it'll be twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>cents a leader should there be a change of government. James,

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<v Speaker 2>we're or a loser of the week.

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<v Speaker 1>Who stands out for you?

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<v Speaker 5>Mate?

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<v Speaker 6>The biggest winners this week of the five thousand workers

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<v Speaker 6>in the salmon industry down there in Tasmania. It's some

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<v Speaker 6>common sense prevailed from the government and the opposition and

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<v Speaker 6>they've secured the industry for the meantime. But who knows

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<v Speaker 6>what will happen after the election if the Greens end

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<v Speaker 6>up in a coalition arrangement with labor. But they're the

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<v Speaker 6>biggest winners salmon farm industry and Tazzy, well done to them.

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<v Speaker 5>They put on a hard fight to be able to

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<v Speaker 5>save it.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, good luck to all of you.

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<v Speaker 2>Start as gun tomorrow morning, full coverage here on Sky News.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll be doing your bit for your teams and there's

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<v Speaker 2>plenty of debate between now and then huge weekend. As

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<v Speaker 2>I said tomorrow, I'll be there with Laura in the

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<v Speaker 2>morning as everything unfurls. We'll go through more data and

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<v Speaker 2>more details. But as always, the promise from this show

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<v Speaker 2>is well just to show you the data, show you

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<v Speaker 2>the facts, be realistic about things.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I've copt plenty of blowback from saying, look, while I'm

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<v Speaker 2>on the Trump train, got the red hat, listen to

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<v Speaker 2>the war room. He ain't as popular with the majority

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<v Speaker 2>of Australians and that's why Albo's going to desperately hope

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<v Speaker 2>that he's going to be running against him, not just

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<v Speaker 2>Peter Dutton, but there's plenty of talk between now and

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<v Speaker 2>then to one but Sunday night for our town, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>also do a mini version of State of the Race,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course Peter Dutton on Monday taking questions from you.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a great weekend, Go Yankees.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah,