WEBVTT - Almost Time 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:12.039 Welcome to the Data Telegraph NURL podcast. I'm Michael carry 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:14.240 On and David Rique Brett read how are you boys ready? 0:00:14.280 --> 0:00:15.239 Almost finals time? A? 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:15.760 Yeah? 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:20.520 Spring is is that septem spring springs in the air. 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:22.200 That's right. It's been nice and warm. 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:25.079 It's been beautiful. Cut the swims manly God's country. 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:26.920 I wasn't doing sideline at Penrith the other day and 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:30.680 it was hot. There were moths shorts on the sideline. 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:34.159 No, no, maybe have you been wearing shoes? 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:40.040 Do you wear shorts in the side or maybe like 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:42.680 round if it's like thirty five degrees in round one? 0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:45.879 Maybe I've never done it. I almost did it last Sunday. 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:49.200 Yeah I didn't. I didn't. Seasons the game's not ready 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:52.320 for that read. But we're in the business end of 0:00:52.320 --> 0:00:53.160 the season. You can't. 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:54.080 You got a classic? 0:00:54.200 --> 0:00:54.400 Yeah? 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:56.080 Okay, yeah, yeah you can't classic. 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:57.800 You can't do it now pre season you can. But 0:00:57.880 --> 0:00:59.600 it felt like had pre season vibe last week because 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:00.960 I was flying around. 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:01.080 It was hot. 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:04.520 I was listening on the radio the more talking about moss. 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:08.759 Everyone there was like, what do they call it a moss? 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:10.560 And I found that hard to believe. I think you 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:11.800 might have embellished for radio. 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:12.400 You ain't there. 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:18.080 I couldn't be that. It didn't make the news, didn't 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:20.920 make the news, Thank you very much. 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:23.920 Yes, you're very generous. You are very generous. 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:26.640 What do well, Well, let's start on one of the 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:29.720 issues of trop mitchell A. Ready have been all across this. 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:31.759 Look, it might change by the time we're off air, 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:33.920 so we just give us a state of play until 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:34.720 we're at Now. 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:38.160 It's been quite saga, hasn't it dragged on? It's been 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:40.200 pretty bad for everyone. Really, I don't think anyone's come 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:41.959 out of it looking smelling like road. 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:45.800 Sorry, really when did this? When did the photo first appear? 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:46.280 Now? 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:47.200 How many weeks now? 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:47.640 It was? 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:49.360 It was are we coming up a month? 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:51.800 Yeah? I think we are. Actually, I think it's coming 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:56.920 up to a months. Well, I mean obviously that that 0:01:57.040 --> 0:02:00.240 to conduct the investigation. Then they're giving the breed. She's 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:02.680 got five days to respond to the bridge and obviously 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:05.040 now the issue is whether he serves the suspension this 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:09.920 weekend or next or next year. And obviously the neral 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:13.280 put some requirements to Sous to prove that he was 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:17.079 fitting and available for selection. Sous believed they did that 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:19.800 the NRL was saying, no, we want some more evidence, 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:21.800 and that's where we are at the moment. 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:24.040 I think, I don't want to speak on behalf of 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:25.679 you guys, but I am of the belief that he 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:27.120 should serve the band next year. 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:32.200 Right, But no, but go on. But now the fact 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:33.120 the NER put these. 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:34.799 Parameters in place where all they have to do is 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:37.840 prove that he's fit enough to play, well, that's what 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:38.560 Souths are doing. 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:41.440 So now the band should be served this year. Yeah, right. 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:43.360 I think originally I would have been quite comfortable if 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:45.280 the NRL came out originally said no, he's got to serve. 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:47.600 He's going to miss a game one next year, right, 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:49.480 and that was the band and that was it, right, 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:51.639 And if Souths wanted to ARGI Bardi, I would have 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:53.880 sided with the NRL. The fact that they've said no, 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:56.120 it's the next game that he's fit and available for. Well, 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:59.400 Souths has got three doctors to say that he can 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:03.200 play external one obviously the club doctor, but they're all 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:06.480 independent because they're doctors, and one was his operating surgeon. 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:10.440 But what it has done there was already a simmerin 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:13.679 war between South Sydney and the NRL this has just 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:16.000 ignited it. It's going to go it's going to go 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:17.720 nuclear beyond repair. 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:19.640 Dave. What's your thoughts on it all? 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:22.280 Oh? Yeah, Look, I'm with you, Mick, and I believe 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:25.280 that I think we don't have to go back two 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:28.880 weeks ago from Ben Hornby's comments how he spoke about 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:31.720 the fact that he won't be fit, he seasons effectively 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:35.480 over and that you can't deny that that's muddy the 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:38.440 waters too. Those comments muddy the waters. Now, I'm not 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:41.360 playing I'm not a portioning blame on Benny or anything 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:44.640 like that. But the fact that the head coach declared 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:47.080 he was gone for the season and then suddenly he 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:50.240 falls foul, he falls foul and has to prove that 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:53.200 he's fit, but he's already commented that he won't be fit. 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:56.800 I just think it's completely convoluted, and I'm with you, Mick. 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:57.200 I think he. 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:02.040 Should just serve it next year. Case closed. However, the 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:04.480 fact that the NRL they just kicked the door open 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:04.880 a little bit. 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:07.520 Yeah, I don't blame Souse for doing it, be cool 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:10.320 and blame Souths either, but I think Souths could have 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:16.080 been I think Souths could have taken the just you know, 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:18.800 a more senior position on it, on the on the 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:21.080 decision and said, look, take all the air out of 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:23.720 the balloon, the trails missing the first round next year. 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:25.960 Done, case closed. As I said, it's been dragging on 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:26.400 a month. 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:30.640 My issue is that both Souse and the players Union 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:34.440 believe that the band should be served regardless of injury. 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:36.719 It should be served straight away, right and you can 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:39.640 dispute that and argue about that. But you know now 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:41.480 the aneral want to look at his training loads. We 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:43.680 hasn't been training because he thought he could serve the band, 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:45.960 and Ben he was out for the year because they 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:47.560 thought he could serve the band. If the ender all 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:49.920 had said to them at the start, you need to 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:51.880 prove his fitness for him to be able to play. 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:53.600 Three weeks ago, he would have done three weeks with 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:56.080 the training load and but but he hasn't because he 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:58.400 didn't think he had to. He'd have to prove his 0:04:58.520 --> 0:04:59.599 fitness to be able to. 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:02.000 Serve the and with that it always comments were prior 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:07.640 to this misdemeanor. It was it was before the sanction, 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:09.799 I think it had been handed down, but it was after. 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:13.520 I think though if Souths were in a position whether 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:15.800 playing finals footy or had to win to play finals 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:18.039 foota La trol plays this weekend. Because of Ready's point, 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:20.480 they would have managed him differently with an eye of 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:23.640 coming back with one game left or two games where 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:24.480 their season were out. 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:27.480 They weren't going to another issue. Your definition of being 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:30.840 fit and available for selection, Well, he could probably play 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:34.120 ten minutes off the bench that is fit and available. 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:36.000 For selection, is it not. It's a mess. It's a mess, 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:37.560 but it's if you. 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:40.240 Look at the breach nunders. The breach Nader says, when 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:43.479 the doctor says he's fitting, the vle the doctor said 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:46.520 he has fitting available for selection. So you're saying, we 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:47.520 don't believe your doctor. 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:50.599 The concern is is now the bar that's been set 0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:52.920 for every other club and the mess we're going to 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:56.720 be in every every other time a similar misdemeanor arises 0:05:57.680 --> 0:05:59.919 and a similar situation will arise. 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:02.240 Yeah, they should have just given him two games. 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:05.480 But I mean again, that would have been inconsistent because. 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:09.120 If you know, they could have taken into got one 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:10.080 some of the other things. 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:13.560 That you know those guys are those should just bring 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:17.880 back match payments and then therefore you'd have to, you'd 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:19.880 have to play to earn his money, and he'd be playing. 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:22.520 You're right, I mean there is this, there's been this, 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:26.120 this underlying tension hasn't even been underlying. There's been this 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:27.279 tension between. 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:31.800 Really gone hasn't definitely what's going to happen? But what 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:35.240 what are you suggesting? Well, seriously, what's a what's a 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:37.400 club and an ar going? What can happen? 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:40.880 To just agitate and royal paint in each other's backsides 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:43.719 for on every issue. 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:44.839 Publicly scathing about it. 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:48.240 And it hasn't like this is probably it's been behind 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:51.040 closed doors. We've we've all been aware of it, and 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:52.560 there's been little issues here or there. 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:54.599 But now it's going to be public. 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:57.240 I'd say, I think the governing body is going to 0:06:57.279 --> 0:06:59.960 come out swinging against one of the club. 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:03.480 That's all right, yeah, and the other is sure. I 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:05.960 have is people saying, look, La Troll has got off 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:10.400 easy if he serves the band, uh, you know straight away. 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:13.080 I mean you've got to remember he's also been fining 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:15.440 forty thousand dollars. Now, I know he's on a million 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:17.640 dollars a year, but forty grand is a lot of money. 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:20.600 It's a big fine in the modern. 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:23.000 I do think he's got off easy from playing perspective in. 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:26.240 Terms of the band of well coursecouts right, no doubt. 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:29.280 But apparently according to the players, you know, they are 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:31.880 the rule, no, yeah, and that parameters the will put 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:33.880 around them. So that's not Sound's fault. 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:36.040 Yes, I think we're definitely in a grand set. I 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:37.840 think well, I think well, I think we both feel 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:40.640 that originally, if the anner will handed down the punishments 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:42.160 that he needs to serve Game one next year, I 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:43.240 think we would have been No, we. 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:45.960 Would have been one hundred percent. And if you wouldn't 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:50.400 have no, okay, all right, well I would have been okay. Anyway, 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:50.920 moving on. 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:52.280 Let's move on. 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:55.200 So we've got the Battle of the Spoon Bowl this 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:58.760 weekend and it's obviously generated lots of hype. Cameratown sold out, 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:01.280 which is great. The players are buying into it a 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:03.960 little bit, the fans are definitely buying into it. Let's 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:08.600 get a tip, boys, who finishes with the wooden spin? 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:14.080 So who's going to lose the West Tigers power? 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:16.679 For me, I'm going Benji with trust. 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:20.080 I think the Eels will win as well. Okay, So 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:24.600 I think Tigers walk away with a mother Wooden spirits. 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:25.440 At three in a row if they get. 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:28.200 Three in our Newcastle had it did a couple of 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:28.600 years ago. 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:32.400 There's been some green shoots for the Tigers this year. 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:34.120 I think some good young kids have come through. 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:37.839 It's a better like it's it's they're better placed this 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:39.600 year than they were last year, in the year before 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:41.080 next year. 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:43.160 The emergence of the young players. 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:45.520 You know, they might know Hawes prew soon. 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:48.960 This was a terrific win against Man. 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:52.880 Yeah, both year olds in the spine taking down Brooks, 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:54.880 Cherry Evans and Triboy which was a terrific win. 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:58.560 They've got to find that again. Obviously I said it before. Guys. 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:01.120 I reckon, I reckon this West Tigers supporter base are 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:03.120 the most law supporter base in Australian sport. 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:03.680 Yeah. 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:07.920 That's a Thursday night at art Oval always a tough 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:10.120 sell Thursday night footy, no matter who you are and 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:10.640 what you're doing. 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:13.199 But that was packed, jam packed. Now we here have 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:15.400 the Spoon Bowl sold out. 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:21.600 If the West Tigers administration and club and football team 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:26.280 can somehow get it right, which I still think is debatable, 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:30.360 they are they will be huge, and it will be 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:32.480 similar soon as to the Bulldogs of what we're seeing 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:33.559 down the streets of Belmore. 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:35.360 If the Tigers can. 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:38.280 Somehow climb the ladder and get into that top eight 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:39.920 next year, like it will go off. 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:41.240 They're already going off. 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:45.680 It's remarkable, isn't it. This weekend you've got spoon Bowl, 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:47.520 You've got a top eight. I don't think we'll ever 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:49.400 see that again on the one weekend where you've got 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:53.760 the four sided plane and one we'll finish eighth, one, 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:56.679 we'll finish, one, will finish sixteenth, one we'll finish seventeenth 0:09:57.160 --> 0:09:57.760 the same weekend. 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:00.320 And it's funny. It's a really significant game, I reckon 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:03.040 for the Tigers. This game. It doesn't I know, they're 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:05.360 fighting for a spoon and they'll finish what second, they'll 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:08.360 finished second last. They don't if they win, But it 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:11.199 feels like it's a really significant significant game for this 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:16.319 club and their development and their just to give their 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:19.079 fans some hope that there is some improvement there. Look 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:21.000 the I think there's as I said, I think there's 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:23.680 been some green shirts, bit of blue sky, but you'd 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:27.920 like to see that crystallized by them avoiding the Wooden Spoon. 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:30.439 If you're a Tiger's fan, I reckon, I reckon. They're 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:32.120 going to be up for it. The Tigers just really 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:32.520 up for it. 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:34.360 Tigers ready. 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:37.679 Obviously they've signed Royce Heart where they own in terms 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:38.760 of a few other players. 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:42.080 They shouldn't know on Hawsbury by Friday. I'm told they'll 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:44.600 get a response on Friday from Corey Hawesbrough either one 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:47.480 way or the other. He'd be a good signing for them. 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:50.880 And then obviously they're waiting on Jack Bird. They're haggling 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:52.480 over the length of the deal at the moment with 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:55.000 Jack Bird. We'll talk us through that because well they've 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:57.240 offered him two years. Jack want's three. I believe Jack 0:10:57.280 --> 0:10:59.640 and his management want three, a three year deal. He's 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:01.880 obviously the year left the Dragons. They've given him permission 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:04.040 to go to market and have a look around. He 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:05.840 had a meeting with the Tigers this week too at 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:08.280 the facility. It's met Benji. He spoke to Rich Oh, 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:12.080 so you know, I think that's reason. Well, I think 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:15.360 that'll happen. Actually there's another guy they're interested in, but 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:18.840 for three years or two years, that's what that's the bit. 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:21.400 I don't know they're putting rigid on two years. 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:24.599 The Tigers couldn't go three years there for chance, not 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:29.320 without some parameters that it weighs heavily in the club's favor. 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:31.640 And I reckon there might be some Look. I mean, obviously, 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:35.400 Johnny Bateman's in England at the moment and I'm told 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:39.320 Warrington want to keep him if he's willing to stay there, 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:41.760 I don't imagine the Tigers will stand in his way. 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:44.520 So I'm thinking there could be some more movement there 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:46.480 over the off season, which is going to wait and see. 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:50.319 But I think land Hawesbury this week and avoid the 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:52.319 Wooden Spoon. That's a big week for them. 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:56.319 Signing Dave. What does it mean A for the Sharks 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:57.480 and B for the Tigers. 0:11:57.600 --> 0:12:01.680 I think it's a sold signing. Royce is an impact 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:04.920 front rower. He is a minutes front rower. I'll be 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:07.240 interested to see how they cover the loss of stefano 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:08.080 U Ta Kamanu. 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:11.000 I don't see it as a like forul Light replacement. 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:12.440 They're completely different front row. 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:14.960 They think he could play longer minutes. There's have been 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:16.240 any evidence. I haven't watched enough. 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:20.600 There's not enough evidence to suggest that and look, unless 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:23.880 and this will be on Royce, and Royce will need 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:27.440 a monster pre season if he really needs to increase 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:31.679 those minutes, he needs to. And maybe maybe there's an 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:36.199 element of him always knowing that it was he started 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:38.400 in the front row a number of times for the Sharks, 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:41.319 but he's probably never thought that I'm going to be 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:45.000 the starting front row that holds this pack together, that 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:49.040 that may be the opportunity for him to have a 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:53.439 huge preseason and increase those minutes because he's averaging around 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:55.640 twenty minutes a game for the Shark. Yeah, it's a 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:58.040 different forward pack, I guess as well, because there's a 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:02.560 lot of you know, those US forwards can play big 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:07.000 minutes and he's probably less inclined to need to the Sharks. 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:10.960 So as far as what it means for the Sharks, Mickey, look, 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:14.520 I think he's been he's been beneficial to them. Like 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:17.319 as I said, he brings impact from the bench. But 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:19.400 at the same time, this is a deep pack, Like 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:22.880 they've got a pretty deep roster. As Ford Pack is concerned, 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:25.760 they still need to resign Jack Williams. 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:30.480 Guys, he remains off contract to this season. So and Jack's. 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:33.800 Basically such as his desire to stay at Cronulla, He's 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:37.000 held out as long as possible for Kronella to get 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:40.480 their cap in order, waiting for Royce's decision to see 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:43.040 what the Sharks can come up with. At this point 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:47.640 in time, again, Jack remains unsigned and obviously the bigger 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:49.719 rival of Adam fanil Blake next year is the big one? 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:52.400 Well, Jax Daye. Now do you think because that part 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:55.520 of the still look, I don't It depends. 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:59.000 Jack's been on pretty good money for a number of 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:02.600 years down at Coronella for about five hundred and five fifty. Yeah, 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:06.120 he's been on good money and I believe you'll have 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:07.439 to take a pay cut to stay. 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:10.800 Yeah, okay, so it'll be a matter. 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:12.520 I can't imagine you get much more than that on 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:14.120 the open mar I can't imagine get that in the 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:14.720 open market. 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:15.800 Well, yeah, that's right. 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:19.000 And which clubs which and what appeals to Jack? What 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:21.840 clubs are what clubs come knocking for Jack? And does 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:24.480 it suit him? Or does he stay for Cronulla and 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:27.960 stay for less so interesting? Just on the Sharks, we 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:31.840 get to see Nico Hines. Their return last week wasn't 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:32.680 at his best. 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:37.360 A little bit of hasn't he There's a lot of attentional. 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:42.040 I understand, honestly, Lok he wasn't at his best now 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:45.520 if runs through this line. Kronulla kicked to a thirty 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:49.720 to four lead and Nico scores that try, probably kicks 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:50.840 the goal thirty two to four. 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:54.760 I'm pretty confident they don't lose the game from thirty 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:55.280 two to four. 0:14:55.800 --> 0:15:00.120 Now, in this second half, the entire momentum shift did 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:03.000 the Warriors favor through six agains and penalties. Cornella had 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:06.600 a thirty percent possession and a lopside of penalty count 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:10.360 in this game. If you didn't watch it closely enough, 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:13.680 Brandon Trindle was the halfback and the plan was always 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:16.320 to Nick back in in a five to eight throw. 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:19.120 Trindle set up a large majority of the first half 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:24.200 tries and Nico eased himself back into this contest. I'm 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:27.720 happy to assess him on this Sunday's performance against Manly. 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:31.440 It feels like going in the finals, he's arguably the 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:33.240 player under the most pressure. 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:36.560 Not arguably for mine. I think is there some. 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:39.640 Whispers going around that obviously they've signed into a long 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:42.840 term deal and not everyone at the club's doing cartwheels 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:43.080 over it. 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:46.480 I haven't picked up on that ready, little. 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:48.400 Whispers going around this week, mate, that's. 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:51.320 All right, big gone ready, if that's correct some whispers. 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:55.400 I'm not worried about his performance against the Warriors. 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:57.760 I'm going to judge him on the next month little 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:00.400 football for the player month of football. And it's not 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:03.800 just Nico, it's the whole Sharks outfit, right. They've faltered 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:05.760 at the business end of the season in the last 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:08.400 few years and I think it's a it's a massive 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:11.680 period for Craig Fits given Nico, Hines and all the 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:13.880 players out of the Sharks, I think, you know, we 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:16.000 know the stigma around them at the moment and if 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:18.160 they don't win at least one finals, for me. 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:21.040 Guys, I think and and I'm with you totally, Mick. Look, 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:23.320 you know it's a huge month of footy coming for 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:23.920 the Sharks. 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:33.520 But for me, there's not enough attention on Will Kennedy. Yeah, 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:37.240 at fullback he's not in the least no, no, But 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:38.520 if Cronulla are. 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:41.800 To go deep into a finals, everybody knows you need 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:46.640 your fullback to have a final series. That's that's proven 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:49.400 across you go through all the premiership winning sides. 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:52.280 Dylan Edwards all right, Breis. 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:58.120 Walsh almost got there last year, Ben Barber twenty sixteen. 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:02.320 You go through the list of when you have success, 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:05.560 your fullback is flying and for me, well Kennedy is 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:07.920 just consistent enough. 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:08.480 That's it. 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:11.680 He kicked what eighteen months ago, Like I think he 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:15.000 had significant improvement and that he's sort of been capped. Yeah, 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:17.000 they're a little bit, don't you think they? Like he 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:18.840 had that, like he had that run when you won't 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:20.560 sure if he was going to be a week in, 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:24.600 week out first ground and then really found his level right, absolutely, 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:27.240 and I still think he's at that level and hasn't gone, 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:29.720 which is what your point is to that next tier. 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:33.520 If he to Desco, he's not going to. I don't 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:34.760 think he's ever going to be that player. 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:38.080 Well, if it's all well and good to say to 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:40.840 Sharks need a big month for footy, but have they 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:42.400 got the roster to have a big monkey. 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:47.159 Doesn't that show that they lack maybe the truly elite player. 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:49.800 We thought Nicko might be that guy, but he hasn't 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:52.119 really reached that level yet. But you look at all 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:54.640 the clubs in contention, the clubs will Win Comps Pen 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:58.720 got Cleary, Melbourn, got Monster Hughes. Take your pick, Harry. 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:03.639 Perhaps the Rooster have got Teddy truly elite player. They 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:07.040 seem to have the truly elite player in their squad 0:18:07.080 --> 0:18:08.760 at the moment. They need someone to step up in 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:10.800 this finals series become that goal. 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:12.640 So I think I think we've seen him. I think 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:14.680 I certainly think Nico has got it in him, and 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:17.400 I think that's there. The other one is who stood 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:21.240 up with loaded black braid. Brayley's been the guy that's 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:24.359 opened it up for them. But just back to Kennedy. Now, 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:29.040