WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 1 May

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<v Speaker 1>General, Welcome to the wake bade.

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<v Speaker 2>Good evening.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for joining us.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm James Macpherson with Liz Storer and Joe Hildebrand coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>Kamala Harris is back unburdened by sobriety, or at least

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<v Speaker 2>it seems that way. I'll show you what I mean later. Plus,

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<v Speaker 2>when we look at the papers, The Australian has got

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<v Speaker 2>an interesting front page tomorrow, labour's links to Chinese Commenist

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<v Speaker 2>Party aligned property developers seems Elbow and Penny Wong have

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<v Speaker 2>been whining and dining them. Plus the unusual excuse some

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<v Speaker 2>public servants are giving for not wanting to go back

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<v Speaker 2>to working in the office. All of that when we

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<v Speaker 2>get to tomorrow's headlines. But I want to start tonight

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<v Speaker 2>by looking at the incredible footage of New South Wales

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<v Speaker 2>police Inspector Amy Scott giving chase to the Bondi stabber

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<v Speaker 2>through the Westfield shopping center last year before taking him down.

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<v Speaker 2>The footage was released this afternoon by the coroner. There's

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<v Speaker 2>the incredible bravery of Inspector Amy Scott. Not only that

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<v Speaker 2>the courage of about a dozen men who joined her

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<v Speaker 2>in pursuit of Joel Couci, who by that stage had

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<v Speaker 2>already stabbed sixteen people. Have a look at this incredible

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<v Speaker 2>footage that was released today. You'll see here that Inspector

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<v Speaker 2>Amy Scott is coming up onto the fifth level of

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<v Speaker 2>the shopping center, and look at all the men she's

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<v Speaker 2>accompanied by. Listen, Joe. These were passers by who found

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<v Speaker 2>out what was happening and ran with the police officer

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<v Speaker 2>as they chased after Joel Cauchi. Joel Couche, remember, had

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<v Speaker 2>a thirty centimeter knife. There he is. There, he runs

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<v Speaker 2>past a shopkeeper who is told by Amy Scott quick

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<v Speaker 2>get back behind closed doors. Then she tells all the

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<v Speaker 2>men who are with her stand back as she's ready herself,

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<v Speaker 2>and you'll see in a moment the stabber runs toward her.

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<v Speaker 2>She braces, and the footage cuts out just before she shoots.

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<v Speaker 2>She fires three shots. The first shot hit Joel Couci,

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<v Speaker 2>the second shot hit him again, the third shot hit

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<v Speaker 2>a pop plant behind him. But it demonstrates the bravery

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<v Speaker 2>not just of that police officer. She told the inquest

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<v Speaker 2>that she thought for sure she would die. She didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have a protective vest, she didn't have a partner with her,

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<v Speaker 2>though she did, as we saw have a dozen passes

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<v Speaker 2>by who all joined her in pursuit. But quite incredible

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<v Speaker 2>bravery and good on all those men for joining with

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<v Speaker 2>her and standing up with her in that moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely we know the bollard men.

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<v Speaker 4>We knew of them the weekend that this happened, those

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<v Speaker 4>guys grabbing the ballard, trying to prevent him from getting

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<v Speaker 4>to another level. Now we see that so many more

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<v Speaker 4>men were ready to charge into well they didn't even

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<v Speaker 4>know what, I don't think at that point, but they

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<v Speaker 4>would have known that at least one lone stabber was

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<v Speaker 4>on the loose. They see a they say, we're with

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<v Speaker 4>you all the way, and they're charging into the line

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<v Speaker 4>of fire with her. So it's just wonderful to see

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<v Speaker 4>this kind of heroism amongst everyday Aussies who were just

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<v Speaker 4>there to do some shopping. Little did they know that

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<v Speaker 4>that day would call on every bit of guns they

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<v Speaker 4>had to ensure the safety of the rest of the

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<v Speaker 4>people in the westfield that day.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an extraordinary thing. Like when you look at that

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<v Speaker 3>loan cop there, who is literally the thin blue line,

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<v Speaker 3>as thin as a guests. So I know, as we say,

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<v Speaker 3>no protective vest she thinks she's going to die. Thirty

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<v Speaker 3>centimeters is a very very long knife, and it is

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<v Speaker 3>very very difficult to shoot someone when they are moving

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<v Speaker 3>very very fast, charging and charging at you, and to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to hold your nerve and hold the gun

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<v Speaker 3>steady and resist every impulse in your body, every instinct

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<v Speaker 3>in your body to get out of the way, to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to stand that and think, right, that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to die, but I have to get this

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<v Speaker 3>shot off. And again she also has because when the

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<v Speaker 3>actual moment comes, it's not the you know, she has

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<v Speaker 3>an obligation to also defend and protect the men standing

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<v Speaker 3>behind her. As much as they are there to sort

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<v Speaker 3>of a sister, she has to protect them from that

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<v Speaker 3>guy running at her as well. So it's just this

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<v Speaker 3>incredible moment in time where she has literally all these

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<v Speaker 3>lives in her hands.

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<v Speaker 2>The other part of that novel, just before he returns

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<v Speaker 2>towards her and runs at her, there was a woman

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<v Speaker 2>with a baby in a pram and Joel Couchi had

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<v Speaker 2>turned his attention to that woman. She's not shown in

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<v Speaker 2>the vision. She's out of sight and Amy Scott yells

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<v Speaker 2>out to get the man's intention. She mouths the word

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<v Speaker 2>run to the woman with the pram and that's when

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<v Speaker 2>Joel Couchi starts running back towards Amy Scott. So she

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<v Speaker 2>invited him to come at her rather than the woman

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<v Speaker 2>with the baby in the pram.

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<v Speaker 4>Incredible bravery indeed, and goodness knows have happened if she

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<v Speaker 4>hadn't done that.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you say, Joe, every.

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<v Speaker 4>Single cell in your body would be screaming run the

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<v Speaker 4>other way. But she knew she was the only one

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<v Speaker 4>with a weapon that could defeat this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just incredible, incredible footage.

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<v Speaker 4>And also you can't be in your right mind as

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<v Speaker 4>we know that Joel Councy wasn't to charge at a

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<v Speaker 4>cop like that. You had to have got in that

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<v Speaker 4>person's armed they're able to take you down.

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<v Speaker 1>And yet that's what he chose.

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<v Speaker 5>You.

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<v Speaker 2>It was only six meters away from her when she

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<v Speaker 2>got the first shot off. When you think of a

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<v Speaker 2>man running as full pelt.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, terrifying, you see how that's right? Yeah, it just

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<v Speaker 3>things like this, it's so chaotic and they just make

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<v Speaker 3>no sense whatsoever. I mean, this is a guy who

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<v Speaker 3>just should have been on his meds and for whatever

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<v Speaker 3>reason he wasn't and we'll get to the bottom of

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<v Speaker 3>that at the end of this inquest. And you desperately

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<v Speaker 3>need something to try to attach some meaning to just

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<v Speaker 3>horrible random events like this. And I think what Amy

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<v Speaker 3>Scott did was actually give the community and give the

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<v Speaker 3>nation something to kind of sort of hold on to,

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<v Speaker 3>to help make sense of what is really a completely

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<v Speaker 3>senseless act. And so I think she actually performs without

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<v Speaker 3>getting to touch you feel about it, but I think

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<v Speaker 3>she actually helps a whole kind of community in Sydney,

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<v Speaker 3>in the Eastern suburbs, but also a whole nation thing.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what, the world's not just not just a

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<v Speaker 3>sort of terrifying place where you can be killed at

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<v Speaker 3>any moment, because there are people like her who've devoted

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<v Speaker 3>their life to.

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<v Speaker 2>Say and how police get a lot of criticism, but

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<v Speaker 2>thank god for police officers like Amy Scott.

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<v Speaker 1>You're here an absolute hero.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, after some last minute hiccups that threatened you do

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<v Speaker 4>raile it again. The US and Ukraine have today signed

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<v Speaker 4>off on the highly controversial and very much anticipated minerals deal. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>just last week, Trump was blasting Zelenski via his truth

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<v Speaker 4>social platform, saying this was ridiculous, it was taking way

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<v Speaker 4>too long.

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<v Speaker 1>It was at least three weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>Late, and Zelensky had to sign it immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>Immediately being in capitals, as we.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, is Trump's preferred method imation. But it appears that

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<v Speaker 4>the meeting between the two leaders, which took place at

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<v Speaker 4>the Vatican over the weekend around the Pope's funeral, must

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<v Speaker 4>have worked a treat.

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<v Speaker 1>The US did not budge on their terms for this deal.

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<v Speaker 4>They demanded that all aspects on the table be agreed

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<v Speaker 4>to by Kiev, and that did indeed happen today, his

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<v Speaker 4>US Treasury Secretary Scott Besant saying that this is very

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<v Speaker 4>much hoped this is the first step in the right

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<v Speaker 4>direction toward negotiated peace in Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 1>At last, here he is I.

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<v Speaker 6>Am glad to announce the signing of today's historic economic

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<v Speaker 6>Partnership agreement between the United States and Ukraine, establishing the

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<v Speaker 6>United States Ukraine Reconstruction Investment Fund. Today's agreement signals to

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<v Speaker 6>Russian leadership that the Trump administration is committed to a

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<v Speaker 6>peace process centered on a free, sovereign and prosperous Ukraine

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<v Speaker 6>over the long term.

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<v Speaker 4>And as Trump is well known for, he is counting

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<v Speaker 4>his chickens, saying peace is nigh and you have me

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<v Speaker 4>to thank for it. Here he is talking to an

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<v Speaker 4>ABC reporter and.

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<v Speaker 1>Montez of me.

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<v Speaker 7>I do believe that he's willing to stop the fighting,

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<v Speaker 7>don't begin.

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<v Speaker 1>He wants to say anything. Vladimir Putin wants peace.

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<v Speaker 7>I think he does.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I think still.

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<v Speaker 7>I was not happy what I saw Putin shooting missiles

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<v Speaker 7>into a few towns and cities, and that was not

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<v Speaker 7>something that I like seeing, and I thought it was inappropriate.

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<v Speaker 4>Inappropriate, that's a bit of an understatement, but it's Trump.

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<v Speaker 4>And of course he couldn't finish the interview without pointing

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<v Speaker 4>out the yes, this is all thanks to me, as

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<v Speaker 4>opposed to Biden, who couldn't even climb a flight of stairs.

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<v Speaker 7>Do you think the reputation of the United States has

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<v Speaker 7>gone down under your presidency? No, I think it's gone

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<v Speaker 7>way up, and I think we're a respected country again.

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<v Speaker 7>We were left at all over the world. We had

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<v Speaker 7>a president that couldn't walk up a flight of stairs,

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<v Speaker 7>couldn't walk down a flight of stairs, couldn't walk across

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<v Speaker 7>the stage without falling. We had a president that was

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<v Speaker 7>grossly incompetent.

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<v Speaker 3>You knew it.

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<v Speaker 7>I knew it, and everybody knew it, but you guys

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<v Speaker 7>didn't want to write it because you're fake news.

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<v Speaker 4>He never misses an opportunity to slip that knife in,

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<v Speaker 4>does he, even while he's doing an interview with the

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<v Speaker 4>very platform that he's trying to d platform. But is

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<v Speaker 4>this the beginning of the end of the Russia Ukraine War?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, to be fair to Donald Trump and Ibas, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think he was calling just Ibas a news fight news.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he was calling everybody's fight news. But look,

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<v Speaker 3>it could be. I mean, this is the thing with Trump,

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<v Speaker 3>you never know, and this is why the people think

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<v Speaker 3>he's all able and he's a monster and he's got

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<v Speaker 3>some sinister plan to take over the world, or he's

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<v Speaker 3>a fascist. Who's going to say Democrats crazy left? Is

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<v Speaker 3>you know anyone? But they're wrong. But also people who

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<v Speaker 3>think that he's the messiah and he's got a quick

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<v Speaker 3>fix that's going to solve everything. Equally, so it's Trump,

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<v Speaker 3>it is Trump, and he will go all in one way,

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<v Speaker 3>and if that doesn't work, he will go all in

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<v Speaker 3>the other way. And like Winston Churchill famously said during

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<v Speaker 3>World War II when he was trying to get the

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<v Speaker 3>Americans into the war on the Ally side, and they

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<v Speaker 3>were sort of holding out, and someone said, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you're worried that the Americans aren't actually going to come

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<v Speaker 3>to party. Is no, no, no, The Americans will always

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<v Speaker 3>do the right thing after they've tried everything else. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's kind of like what Trump did. He goes, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just going to tell that'd be a putin to

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<v Speaker 3>stop bombing. And then he doesn't. He goes, oh right,

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<v Speaker 3>it turns out he is an asshole. And I'll go

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<v Speaker 3>back and talk to Silenski.

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<v Speaker 2>What I want to know, Joe, and you're a good Catholic,

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<v Speaker 2>so maybe he can help me out with this. But

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<v Speaker 2>if this does bring about peace in Europe, does Pope

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<v Speaker 2>Francis get a sainthood because this would be a mirror

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<v Speaker 2>that he would have performed. After all, it was at

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<v Speaker 2>his funeral. That's right that Zelensky and Trump sort of

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<v Speaker 2>smoked the peace pipe, because it was last February when

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<v Speaker 2>Zelensky went to the White House and it looked like,

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<v Speaker 2>for all money, Trump would never deal with Zelensky and

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<v Speaker 2>the whole thing was just absolute mess. But they got

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<v Speaker 2>together in an unscheduled meeting before the Pope's funeral.

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<v Speaker 3>That's exactly right. I'll have to I'll have to get

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<v Speaker 3>pope's final miric. I'll have to check canon law. But

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<v Speaker 3>do you actually have to perform the miracle in your

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<v Speaker 3>lifetime or can you do it? I thought it was

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<v Speaker 3>a lifetime and one behind the grade.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you're right. So we'd have to find money

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<v Speaker 3>in his lifetime. But an interesting fact aside from whether,

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<v Speaker 3>of course Pope, of course Pope Francis should be sainted,

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<v Speaker 3>because he's a saintly man, but one of the key

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<v Speaker 3>bulwarks of the Ukrainian claim to national nationhood is that

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<v Speaker 3>it's got it's really its own sort of really weird

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<v Speaker 3>church called the Unit Church, which is kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>halfway between Orthodox and Catholic, and so it's it's a

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<v Speaker 3>national church. It is like the National Church of Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's not like the Catholic Church which is sort

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<v Speaker 3>of everywhere or Protestantism or whatever. It's kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>the Church of England. So it's Catholic, it belongs to Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just in Ukraine. It dates back to the Kievan

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<v Speaker 3>russ period, which is when the Russians and the Ukrainians

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<v Speaker 3>argue over you know, who really started as Kevin Norris, so,

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<v Speaker 3>as you know, was Russians in Kiev. That's why you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Ukraine and Kiev have always been a part of Russia.

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<v Speaker 3>But there is this particular church, it's only in Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 3>It's called the Unit Church, and it is Orthodox. It

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<v Speaker 3>has an Orthodox mass, but it is affiliated with the Vaticans,

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<v Speaker 3>so it is in complete communion with the Vagant so

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<v Speaker 3>it is considered as part of a Catholic Church, although

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<v Speaker 3>it acts as an Orthodox church, and that makes it unique,

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<v Speaker 3>and it makes you uniquely Ukrainian. Therefore, Ukraine has a

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<v Speaker 3>unique national identity that proves that it is an independent country.

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<v Speaker 3>So the logic goes, so there you go, there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you expect that, did you on a Saturday Ecclesiastical Lessons.

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<v Speaker 8>Day?

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Trump's trying to win the war, or help Zelenski

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<v Speaker 2>win the war in Europe. He's also trying to win

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<v Speaker 2>the war at home against violent, criminal, illegal aliens. And

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<v Speaker 2>of course Trump was elected on a promise that he

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<v Speaker 2>would get rid of especially illegal aliens who'd committed crimes

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<v Speaker 2>from the country, and he's been pretty successful But what's

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<v Speaker 2>curious is the way the White House are advertising their success.

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<v Speaker 2>Have look at this, They've been putting on the White

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<v Speaker 2>House lawns, posters advertising arrested illegal alien, then a photograph

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<v Speaker 2>or a mug shot of the illegal alien who's been deported,

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<v Speaker 2>and the crime that they had committed while in the

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<v Speaker 2>United States is listed there as well. Stephen Miller, who's

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<v Speaker 2>from the Trump administration, says that they are absolutely committed

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<v Speaker 2>to keeping on expelling these violent illegal aliens.

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<v Speaker 9>Those sanctimonious, pompous jerks in the left wing corporate press

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<v Speaker 9>refuse to cover any of these crimes, refuse to interview

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<v Speaker 9>or cover any of their victims, do not demonstrate an

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<v Speaker 9>ounce of human empathy for any of the suffering that

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<v Speaker 9>Joe Biden's border invasion, the Democrat Party's border invasion, has

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<v Speaker 9>wrought on this country, and so the White House. So

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<v Speaker 9>President Trump's White House has forced brilliantly these outlets to

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<v Speaker 9>acknowledge these crimes, to acknowledge these atrocities by putting these posters,

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<v Speaker 9>these mugshots, and their criminal histories right behind them as

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<v Speaker 9>they stand there and do their shots every single day.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's not that easy to get the mainstream media

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<v Speaker 2>to acknowledge that Trump is doing a good job expelling

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<v Speaker 2>these volunt illegal aliens, because well, he look at the

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<v Speaker 2>way see Ann Covetant.

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<v Speaker 10>The Trump administration is approaching its first one hundred day

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<v Speaker 10>mark with a full court press on the issue of

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<v Speaker 10>illegal immigration, and they really don't want you to miss it.

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<v Speaker 10>So they subtly and teastfully dacked the White House North

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<v Speaker 10>line with dozens of yurid signs featuring photos of people

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<v Speaker 10>that the Trump administration claims are in the country illegally.

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<v Speaker 2>CNN said because the names of the illegal aliens were

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<v Speaker 2>not on the signs, they couldn't confirm that they were

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<v Speaker 2>actual criminals who'd committed the crimes alleged on the posters. Therefore,

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<v Speaker 2>they blurred out the images just to be on the

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<v Speaker 2>safe side. Funny though, is they didn't blur out the

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<v Speaker 2>image of say, Kyle Rittenhouse, who famously was lampooned by

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<v Speaker 2>CNN when he defended himself during the Black Lives Matter riots.

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<v Speaker 2>CNN and outlets like them simply hate the truth, and

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<v Speaker 2>you get the idea they hate Americans. They're more concerned

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<v Speaker 2>about protecting the identities of murderers and rapists who, in addition,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have any right to be in the country than

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<v Speaker 2>they are about telling the truth to the American people

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<v Speaker 2>they're supposed to.

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<v Speaker 1>Serve artily bizarre.

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<v Speaker 4>It all depends on the narrative you're pushing, mac, but

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<v Speaker 4>the irony of their By doing that, they're actually proving

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<v Speaker 4>why the Trump administration has gone to these lengths to

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<v Speaker 4>let the American people know we're hit. Now one hundred daymark,

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<v Speaker 4>here's one hundred of the worst that we have so

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<v Speaker 4>far gotten our hands on illegal aliens who have committed

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<v Speaker 4>the most heinous crimes in our country.

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<v Speaker 1>We have arrested them. What CNN has also done.

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<v Speaker 4>Basically by making that move saying, oh, well, we couldn't

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<v Speaker 4>verify it, you're pretty much accusing the Trump administration of

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<v Speaker 4>just whacking up photos of people that may or may

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<v Speaker 4>not have been arrested, may or may not have been guilty.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, what a thing to accuse them of. What

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<v Speaker 4>though they've just made it up, They've photoshopped these people

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<v Speaker 4>or for whatever ridiculous reason they think. Here's James Blair,

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<v Speaker 4>White House Deputy Chief of Staff, again explaining why the

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<v Speaker 4>Trump administration has done this and why they will continue

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<v Speaker 4>to do this because unless they do, the mainstream media

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<v Speaker 4>in America isn't gonna.

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<v Speaker 3>Why do you want people to see that? Why do

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<v Speaker 3>you want the press to see that?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, look, the mainstream media, as you know, Brian, doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>want to cover this story. What we've done is get

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<v Speaker 5>violent criminals and other low lives on the street. It's

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<v Speaker 5>literally a murderer's row here on the line of the

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<v Speaker 5>White House. And these are people that we've taken out

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<v Speaker 5>of the country since we came into office.

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<v Speaker 4>This is what people voted for. And if the media

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<v Speaker 4>isn't going to cover it, the Trump administration is taking

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<v Speaker 4>it into their own hands. And I love that they

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<v Speaker 4>deliberately set this up where they know all the reporters

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<v Speaker 4>come to the White House to shoot their stories, so

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<v Speaker 4>they've got these in the background no.

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<v Speaker 1>Matter where they try to stand to do.

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<v Speaker 4>Their reporting on the White House as happenings that day.

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<v Speaker 1>It's absolutely genius, Joe, It is genius.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was actually trying to scrutinize all the crimes

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<v Speaker 3>that these people were accused of or convicted of, and

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<v Speaker 3>they're all pretty bad. Like I kept thinking, sooner or like,

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<v Speaker 3>there's going to be like you know, robbery, jaywalking, pickpocketing,

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<v Speaker 3>and they are all literally murder, rape, child sex offenses.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's very I don't know how you I make

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<v Speaker 3>a case that these people should be allowed to claim asylum.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, you know, there's we've got enough rapists and

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<v Speaker 3>murderers in our own society without putting up with more.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's any huge argument for bringing in good people.

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<v Speaker 3>That's another story. But the fact that CNN didn't even

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<v Speaker 3>say criminals or ravens or murders or you know, people

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<v Speaker 3>accused of alleged They just called them, just said these

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<v Speaker 3>are the people that John Trump says that they've detained

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<v Speaker 3>and deported. It's well, they're kind of there because of

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<v Speaker 3>one particular distinguishing characteristic, Like if they were all, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they're all women, would see them the people, if they

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<v Speaker 3>were all, you know, elder with as the people, if

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<v Speaker 3>they're all, you know, if it was black lives matters, Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>here are all the people who have been randomly killed

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<v Speaker 3>by police. It just seems very like the willful ignoring

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<v Speaker 3>of the entire point seemed to be quite literally, well,

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<v Speaker 3>they might as well blurt out everything you.

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<v Speaker 2>Would think CNN with all of their reporting resources could

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<v Speaker 2>find out fairly quickly. There's only one hundred people. They've

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<v Speaker 2>got to verify these photographs matching the name.

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<v Speaker 3>And well presumably the White House to just give them

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<v Speaker 3>a list exactly they want to get it out there.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll staying in the US. Tim Waltz, Kamala Harris's running

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<v Speaker 2>mate at the last election, explained today why he was

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<v Speaker 2>her running mate, and in doing so inadvertently explained why

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<v Speaker 2>the Democrats not only lost the last election but will

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<v Speaker 2>continue losing elections.

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<v Speaker 3>I knew I was on the ticket.

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<v Speaker 11>I would argue because we did a lot of amazing

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<v Speaker 11>progressive things in Minnesota, the improved people's lives. But I

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<v Speaker 11>also was on the I could, quite honestly, you know,

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<v Speaker 11>because I could code talk to white guys watching football

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<v Speaker 11>fixing their truck during that that I could put them

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<v Speaker 11>at ease. I was the permission structure to say, look,

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<v Speaker 11>you can do this and vote for this.

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<v Speaker 2>Code talk and permission. There's a man who knows absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>nothing about men. But I suppose when your signature move

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<v Speaker 2>is jazz hands, and remember he tried to load a

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<v Speaker 2>shotgun with his groin, and then of course he's nicknamed tampon.

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<v Speaker 2>Tim because of his penchant for putting tampon bins in

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<v Speaker 2>boys toilets in his home state of Minnesota. It was

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<v Speaker 2>probably a weird choice to try and appeal to white

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<v Speaker 2>guys who like sport and trucking. Weirdest of all was

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<v Speaker 2>imagining that his primary value was that he was white

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<v Speaker 2>and a male, rather than say his experience or his.

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<v Speaker 3>Ideas or out of the kind of identity politics I

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<v Speaker 3>could get behind.

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<v Speaker 2>That is why the Democrats will be out of office

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<v Speaker 2>for a long long time. If there's still thinking that's

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<v Speaker 2>the difference, imagine thinking that men need you to code

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<v Speaker 2>for them or give them permission to vote for a

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<v Speaker 2>black woman. White blokes who loves sports and trucks don't

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<v Speaker 2>need code, They just need plain truth. And the truth

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<v Speaker 2>is that Tim Watz was never the guy to appeal

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<v Speaker 2>to the average American bloke.

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<v Speaker 4>Indeed, and the fact that the average white guy living

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<v Speaker 4>in America who does love trucks, who does love sport,

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<v Speaker 4>would find an affinity with a guy like Tim Waltz,

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<v Speaker 4>like they literally were.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, Okay, well we've got a black.

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<v Speaker 4>Woman running for president, so we're going to get a

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<v Speaker 4>middle aged white guy as her.

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<v Speaker 1>VP running mate.

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<v Speaker 4>Tick that box identity politics for the win. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 4>people will find him really relatable. He's the white guy

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<v Speaker 4>to find relatable and be like, yeah, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 4>vote for them because I see myself reflected in this

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<v Speaker 4>absolute bumbling fool. Remember Tim Waltz is the guy who

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<v Speaker 4>called himself a knucklehead.

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<v Speaker 11>I will be the first to tell you I have

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<v Speaker 11>poured my heart into my community.

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<v Speaker 3>I've tried to do the.

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<v Speaker 11>Best I can, but I've not been perfect, and I'm

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<v Speaker 11>a knucklehead at times.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us something we don't know, mate, I mean, my.

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<v Speaker 3>Goodness, it's a very it's a very sort of typic.

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<v Speaker 3>I despise it, but it's a very sort of typical

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<v Speaker 3>new progressive left as opposed to just good old fashioned,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, of the people, by the people, for the people.

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<v Speaker 3>But where there's there's this idea that elections are kind

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<v Speaker 3>of a game, they're kind of like an algorithm, and

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<v Speaker 3>that if you and you can listen the way they speak,

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<v Speaker 3>listen to the way get Up speaks. For example, in

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<v Speaker 3>its campaign strategy went in BOMBARDSI with emails and tells

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<v Speaker 3>you how we're going to donate, and if we just

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<v Speaker 3>get six dollars here and six dollars there, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you listen to the way they were Obama team, and

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<v Speaker 3>they did it very effectively, but talked about the ground game.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean they did that effectively because I had a

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<v Speaker 3>candidate who could actually connect with normal people. But this

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<v Speaker 3>idea that I'm the sort of Rosetta stone for for

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<v Speaker 3>you know, straight white, middle aged mass and men who

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<v Speaker 3>make up you know, the vast majority of the sort

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<v Speaker 3>of middle American rust belt states that we need to win.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I know how to you know, I know

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<v Speaker 3>how to communicate with them. How about just being one

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<v Speaker 3>of them? How about this being normal? And there's just

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<v Speaker 3>after the election, there was a big push on by

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<v Speaker 3>some in the Democrats, sadly not the side of the

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<v Speaker 3>party that I think Tim Wilts and Kamala are on,

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<v Speaker 3>but where they said, what the hell are we doing?

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<v Speaker 3>We have screwed up everything. We need to get out.

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<v Speaker 3>We need to go to the gun shows, we need

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<v Speaker 3>to get out there in the four wheel drives. We

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<v Speaker 3>need to you know, we need to actually get into

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<v Speaker 3>the community we are. We've got to stop, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>hanging around in all our cool sort of East Coast

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<v Speaker 3>you know, salons and brunch spots talking about how we

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<v Speaker 3>can you know, secretly communicate and use people as vessels

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<v Speaker 3>to harness these people and we've got to get out

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<v Speaker 3>there and live among them. How's that for a good idea?

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<v Speaker 2>It's an amazing idea. I mean, regardless of policies, Liz,

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<v Speaker 2>who is the average bloke in the US can to

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<v Speaker 2>identify with Tim Wiltz or jd Evans.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think we have our answer in the election results.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we got it loud and clear.

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<v Speaker 8>Well.

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<v Speaker 4>In terrible timing for the Dutton campaign. We know that

0:24:07.440 --> 0:24:10.240
<v Speaker 4>the Labor Party has been trying to tie him.

0:24:10.240 --> 0:24:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Very hard with the oh he's so Trump like brush.

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<v Speaker 4>Today some undercover reporters poosing as prospective clients was speaking

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<v Speaker 4>to Chris Lasovita, who was a veteran Republican strategist, and

0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:27.960
<v Speaker 4>he thought it would be appropriate to tell them, again,

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<v Speaker 4>not knowing they were undercover reporters, that he had in

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<v Speaker 4>fact advised the Dutton campaign before it all kicked off

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<v Speaker 4>earlier this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Here he is, I.

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<v Speaker 8>Was in Australia two weeks ago helping the Liberal Party

0:24:46.520 --> 0:24:51.919
<v Speaker 8>there on some of their structural issues that they're they

0:24:51.960 --> 0:24:55.720
<v Speaker 8>were having with Peter Dutton and see things somewhat seemed

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<v Speaker 8>to be moving in the right direction. There.

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<v Speaker 4>Can you imagine imagine the labor camp at the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Being like, see, we told you.

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<v Speaker 4>He's even getting firsthand advice from one of Trump's chief

0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:14.360
<v Speaker 4>teams strategists. We told you he was basically the Australian Trumps.

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<v Speaker 1>It's terrible time.

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<v Speaker 3>It actually was someone in the labor camp who sent

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<v Speaker 3>it to me. So yes, they are very much doing that.

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<v Speaker 3>But it is interesting is that because there's a whole

0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:24.640
<v Speaker 3>lot of this. There's all these sort of postmortems coming

0:25:24.640 --> 0:25:27.080
<v Speaker 3>out about what went wrong with the Dutton campaign before

0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:29.760
<v Speaker 3>the election has even been held. So you know, usually

0:25:29.760 --> 0:25:32.320
<v Speaker 3>the definition of post bortem is, you know, after death.

0:25:32.720 --> 0:25:35.080
<v Speaker 3>In this case, the patient is still alive and they're

0:25:35.080 --> 0:25:38.240
<v Speaker 3>trying to figure out what killed it. But one of them,

0:25:38.280 --> 0:25:41.240
<v Speaker 3>I think clearly is that there was a sort of

0:25:41.280 --> 0:25:43.680
<v Speaker 3>echo chamber around Dunton. There was a lack of communication

0:25:43.720 --> 0:25:47.000
<v Speaker 3>between Dutton and his office and campaign HQ, although of

0:25:47.000 --> 0:25:48.879
<v Speaker 3>course there are plenty who are blaming Campound, HQU and

0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:52.280
<v Speaker 3>the rest of Shadow Cabinet whatever whatever, whatever. But you know,

0:25:52.400 --> 0:25:56.080
<v Speaker 3>if indeed that's true and they are taking this sort

0:25:56.080 --> 0:25:58.560
<v Speaker 3>of advice that you know, everyone wants to see public

0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:01.120
<v Speaker 3>servants being forced back to the office. And you know,

0:26:01.400 --> 0:26:03.439
<v Speaker 3>if you're stand in front of Australian flag, everyone I'll

0:26:03.520 --> 0:26:05.800
<v Speaker 3>vote for you, or if you're crackdown and welcomes to country,

0:26:05.960 --> 0:26:07.880
<v Speaker 3>that's what's going to get people in the final vote

0:26:07.880 --> 0:26:11.760
<v Speaker 3>swinging behind you. Story kind of checks out, maybe, Well, poor.

0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:14.160
<v Speaker 2>Old Angus Taylor and Jane Hume were trying to announce

0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:17.520
<v Speaker 2>the Coalition's costings today, but the issue of Trump, of course,

0:26:18.040 --> 0:26:20.840
<v Speaker 2>came up and they were asked about the Coalition getting

0:26:20.840 --> 0:26:22.400
<v Speaker 2>advice from Trump's strategists.

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<v Speaker 6>Been interested in some political advice from someone who's on

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<v Speaker 6>a very successful campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I've not been partied.

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<v Speaker 4>I think campaign teams and campaign teams talk to each

0:26:30.640 --> 0:26:33.040
<v Speaker 4>other all the time, particularly center right campaign tams from.

0:26:32.920 --> 0:26:34.880
<v Speaker 1>Right around the world. This would not be an unusual thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not something that as up would be a part

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<v Speaker 2>I think Jane Hume is right, they get advice from

0:26:40.359 --> 0:26:43.560
<v Speaker 2>all over the world with sort of like minded political parties.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing to it, but it seems that people do think

0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:49.560
<v Speaker 2>there's something to it because clearly it's worked against the Coalition.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's right, and it comes up in all the research.

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<v Speaker 3>And also, I really like Jame Hume. I don't want

0:26:53.320 --> 0:26:56.639
<v Speaker 3>to have a crack at it. But Angus Taylor, again,

0:26:56.720 --> 0:26:59.119
<v Speaker 3>this is an election in which you are trying to

0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:01.679
<v Speaker 3>distance yourself from Donald Trump or anything to do with it.

0:27:02.040 --> 0:27:04.199
<v Speaker 3>Angus Taylor has just said, oh, look, we don't know

0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:07.240
<v Speaker 3>anything about that. You know, I wouldn't know. Move on.

0:27:07.480 --> 0:27:10.280
<v Speaker 3>And as he's about finished, Jane hum then jumps in

0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:12.959
<v Speaker 3>and says, oh, yes, parties meet with each other from

0:27:13.640 --> 0:27:15.760
<v Speaker 3>other parties, from different countries meet with each other all

0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:19.159
<v Speaker 3>the time, so like they've just sort of been stopped

0:27:19.160 --> 0:27:21.560
<v Speaker 3>and moved on. But now suddenly she's kind of admitted

0:27:21.600 --> 0:27:23.000
<v Speaker 3>that they did meet with each other. And that's and

0:27:23.040 --> 0:27:24.840
<v Speaker 3>again I don't want to go Jane. I do love you, Jane,

0:27:24.920 --> 0:27:27.880
<v Speaker 3>but it seems to me just an example that we've

0:27:27.880 --> 0:27:32.119
<v Speaker 3>seen time and time again front benches contradicting themselves on policies,

0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:36.119
<v Speaker 3>backflipping on policies where they're just not either often not

0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:40.200
<v Speaker 3>agreeing with each other or not agreeing even with themselves

0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:42.399
<v Speaker 3>from one day to the next, and again from whichever

0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:45.480
<v Speaker 3>side of politics you're on. That's just a really, really

0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:48.280
<v Speaker 3>sloppy campaign, and I'm not the only one saying that they're

0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:50.439
<v Speaker 3>a whole bundred people. Stand before we move on, though,

0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:52.879
<v Speaker 3>I very quickly want to say I've been obsessed and

0:27:52.960 --> 0:27:55.520
<v Speaker 3>changing the phone about Pope Francis and whether or not,

0:27:55.880 --> 0:27:59.520
<v Speaker 3>Oh you've become a saint? Right, so, because I thought,

0:27:59.720 --> 0:28:02.480
<v Speaker 3>I think you have to commit the miracles when you're alive.

0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:05.800
<v Speaker 3>So it is you get audited after you die, but

0:28:05.840 --> 0:28:07.840
<v Speaker 3>then they go back through your life and they say, right,

0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:12.000
<v Speaker 3>have you have you done any miracles? And if if

0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:16.119
<v Speaker 3>you do two, then you qualify for sainthood. And yes, okay,

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 3>Zelenski and Trump met at Pope Francis's funeral after he

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:24.760
<v Speaker 3>is dead. But who did the invite list? If Pope

0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:28.119
<v Speaker 3>frances was the one who invited them both, i'd like

0:28:28.200 --> 0:28:31.600
<v Speaker 3>them that would count one down, one to go? Could

0:28:31.800 --> 0:28:34.080
<v Speaker 3>anyway I'd like to apologize to everyone in the controller

0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:36.560
<v Speaker 3>room for that. I probably right up. Let me write

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<v Speaker 3>a long Prime Minister Anthony Albanesi has not ruled out

0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:44.960
<v Speaker 3>raising taxes amid debarcle decade of sorry sorry, I just

0:28:44.960 --> 0:28:48.560
<v Speaker 3>assumed it was debarkle, A decade of deficits and soaring debts.

0:28:49.040 --> 0:28:51.040
<v Speaker 3>Let's up listening to the grad This is Anthony Albanese

0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:54.320
<v Speaker 3>saying whether or not he will categorically rule out any

0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:58.880
<v Speaker 3>new taxes. Do you undertake not to raise any taxes?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what we've got and it is our policies out

0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 2>there for all.

0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:07.880
<v Speaker 3>To see, So you won't raise any taxes.

0:29:08.080 --> 0:29:12.840
<v Speaker 4>So that what we've got out there, Andrew, is lower taxes.

0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:18.840
<v Speaker 3>See that answer was so assured, so completely cut and drive,

0:29:19.040 --> 0:29:22.320
<v Speaker 3>so black of why he said yes before Andrew Klenell

0:29:22.400 --> 0:29:25.440
<v Speaker 3>had even finished answered asking the question, how am I

0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:27.880
<v Speaker 3>what more of a rule out do you need? People?

0:29:28.280 --> 0:29:30.600
<v Speaker 2>Of course he has to leave open the option of

0:29:30.640 --> 0:29:34.280
<v Speaker 2>increasing taxes because it's been such a spendethon in the

0:29:34.360 --> 0:29:37.440
<v Speaker 2>lead up to Saturday that how else do they pay

0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:40.480
<v Speaker 2>for all of this stuff? They spend and tax and

0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:41.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure they know much else.

0:29:42.000 --> 0:29:45.520
<v Speaker 1>No, Well, the government only has your money. It doesn't

0:29:45.520 --> 0:29:50.200
<v Speaker 1>have anybody else's money. And they love driving up that debt,

0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:50.800
<v Speaker 1>don't they.

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:54.480
<v Speaker 4>I mean, we're about to reach a record levels of

0:29:54.560 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 4>debt here in this country and we can thank the

0:29:56.720 --> 0:29:58.320
<v Speaker 4>alban Easy government.

0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:01.840
<v Speaker 3>Which saving your life no standards.

0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:02.920
<v Speaker 1>Of saving our lives.

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:05.560
<v Speaker 4>COVID's in the past buddy, if you're trying to make

0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:06.520
<v Speaker 4>a COVID.

0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 3>Reference, not your livelihoods, your your ability to put food

0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:12.640
<v Speaker 3>on the table. I believe taking it rain.

0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:15.320
<v Speaker 2>A little less.

0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:17.760
<v Speaker 3>There would be even less were it not for the

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:20.400
<v Speaker 3>government's fiscally reckless.

0:30:20.560 --> 0:30:24.959
<v Speaker 2>Est not ruling out any tax cuts, and it seems

0:30:25.000 --> 0:30:29.320
<v Speaker 2>increasingly so that labor aren't ruling out a return of

0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:33.240
<v Speaker 2>the Indigenous Voice to Parliament. Yesterday, Penny Wong left open

0:30:33.280 --> 0:30:38.040
<v Speaker 2>the possibility that it could be brought back. She speculated

0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:40.280
<v Speaker 2>that in ten years time we'll all be wondering what

0:30:40.320 --> 0:30:44.200
<v Speaker 2>the fuss is all about. It's almost inevitable. She implied

0:30:44.240 --> 0:30:47.560
<v Speaker 2>that the Voice to Parliament would at some stage be resurrected,

0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:50.480
<v Speaker 2>and today a second senior government minister hinted that the

0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:54.120
<v Speaker 2>Voice would return. Have listened to Anika Wells, she's the

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:55.320
<v Speaker 2>Minister for Aged Care.

0:30:56.480 --> 0:30:57.920
<v Speaker 12>The Voice in the form that we took to the

0:30:57.960 --> 0:31:00.960
<v Speaker 12>referendum is gone. We respect the opinions and the votes

0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:03.520
<v Speaker 12>of people. They made that very clear. But we're always

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 12>looking for ways to help First Nations people and for

0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:07.680
<v Speaker 12>that policy to be tangible, incredible.

0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:11.040
<v Speaker 2>The Voice in the form it was presented at the

0:31:11.080 --> 0:31:14.120
<v Speaker 2>referendum is gone, but of course that leaves open Joe

0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:18.400
<v Speaker 2>the possibility there could be a voice in another form.

0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:22.000
<v Speaker 2>Labor could legislate it. Now, either they are going to

0:31:22.040 --> 0:31:24.000
<v Speaker 2>do this, and they're so confident they're going to win

0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:26.880
<v Speaker 2>on Saturday, they've decided, you know what, we can start

0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:29.440
<v Speaker 2>just dropping hints about this so that when we do

0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:32.840
<v Speaker 2>do it, we can't be accused of being secretive about it,

0:31:33.120 --> 0:31:35.720
<v Speaker 2>or they are every bit of sloppy as you claim

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:36.360
<v Speaker 2>the coalitioner.

0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think it's the latter. Unfortunately, so there is

0:31:40.080 --> 0:31:43.040
<v Speaker 3>not that there. I can guarantee there is no secret

0:31:43.120 --> 0:31:46.000
<v Speaker 3>plan to bring back the Voice, and it is unfortunate

0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:49.239
<v Speaker 3>that a couple of ministers have not been careful with

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:51.040
<v Speaker 3>their language and have been trying to sort of have

0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:52.360
<v Speaker 3>a bit of a bed each to ways because they

0:31:52.360 --> 0:31:54.280
<v Speaker 3>don't want to seem like they're heartless on Indigenous affairs

0:31:54.320 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 3>and they've just given up on it, so they say, oh, no,

0:31:56.360 --> 0:31:58.040
<v Speaker 3>we're not doing the voice, but don't worry, we're going

0:31:58.040 --> 0:32:00.440
<v Speaker 3>to do lots of other really good stuff. They haven't

0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:08.520
<v Speaker 3>been clear and clear and sure and firm enough in

0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:10.840
<v Speaker 3>the way that they have said that, so you know,

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:14.840
<v Speaker 3>I've had conversations with the newsroom about you know, crazy

0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:18.320
<v Speaker 3>SURMOUNTI commosations, so you know, editors saying, you know, well,

0:32:18.320 --> 0:32:20.280
<v Speaker 3>what does she mean by you know, in the form

0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:22.200
<v Speaker 3>that you know, in the form that it went to

0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:24.640
<v Speaker 3>the last election. Is it in the form? And everyone's saying, right,

0:32:24.680 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 3>so there'll be there will be a voice, but not

0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:27.520
<v Speaker 3>in the form that.

0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:30.040
<v Speaker 2>It was either in the constitution or was legislative, the

0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:32.040
<v Speaker 2>two forms that were pretty But.

0:32:32.680 --> 0:32:34.800
<v Speaker 3>We don't know, We have no idea what she actually

0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:36.920
<v Speaker 3>means by that. I actually suspect it's just a bit

0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:39.120
<v Speaker 3>of a word sout. She's saying, well, I know this

0:32:39.200 --> 0:32:40.680
<v Speaker 3>is a bit of a words out, because there is

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:43.000
<v Speaker 3>no absolutely no way there's going to be a voice.

0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:46.640
<v Speaker 3>I have privately been assured and against at a time

0:32:46.640 --> 0:32:48.360
<v Speaker 3>when I when I was saying, well, how about we

0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 3>do this, how about we do that? Privately being assured

0:32:50.400 --> 0:32:54.320
<v Speaker 3>by the most senior office holders in the country, No,

0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:55.400
<v Speaker 3>we are not doing that.

0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:57.640
<v Speaker 2>People assure you that we'd get a two hundred and

0:32:57.680 --> 0:33:00.640
<v Speaker 2>seventy five dollars rebate from our Christy increase on Errold.

0:33:01.200 --> 0:33:02.920
<v Speaker 3>They did not, And if they had, I would have said,

0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:04.920
<v Speaker 3>for the love of God, don't put a specific.

0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:07.480
<v Speaker 2>Number on it, but a Liberal party are already putting

0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:12.760
<v Speaker 2>out as of tonight adversements fifteen seconds featuring Senator Price

0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:16.520
<v Speaker 2>warning people that this is on the agenda. She says,

0:33:16.840 --> 0:33:20.760
<v Speaker 2>we rejected division once, we can reject it again. Could

0:33:20.800 --> 0:33:23.560
<v Speaker 2>this be a last minute gasp of hope for the

0:33:23.600 --> 0:33:24.280
<v Speaker 2>coalition lease?

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:27.560
<v Speaker 4>Well, I don't think so, because, as Joe has said,

0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:31.560
<v Speaker 4>ad nauseum and Australians in every poll a test, the

0:33:31.680 --> 0:33:34.560
<v Speaker 4>number one issue going to the election is cost of living.

0:33:34.640 --> 0:33:37.160
<v Speaker 4>And when it's hitting your hip pocket as hard as

0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:40.480
<v Speaker 4>it is now, all the culture Wars stuff does go

0:33:40.600 --> 0:33:43.400
<v Speaker 4>out the window. People are going to vote for what

0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:46.800
<v Speaker 4>they see is the most feasible way forward. How much

0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:50.080
<v Speaker 4>is it going to affect me monetarily? That's what it

0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:54.040
<v Speaker 4>boils down to. That's what will decide this election. Absolutely

0:33:54.160 --> 0:33:57.360
<v Speaker 4>black and white done. But before we go to an

0:33:57.440 --> 0:34:01.280
<v Speaker 4>ad break, there has been a polling room with assault

0:34:01.600 --> 0:34:05.560
<v Speaker 4>at pre Pole at a seat in Pakenem in Victoria.

0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:09.800
<v Speaker 4>This is the federal seat of Latrobe, I should say,

0:34:09.840 --> 0:34:12.200
<v Speaker 4>but the incident took place in Paknam.

0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:14.280
<v Speaker 1>As we know, Prepole can get.

0:34:14.080 --> 0:34:20.000
<v Speaker 4>Pretty heated, but those are usually verbal stouches, not physical However,

0:34:20.080 --> 0:34:23.800
<v Speaker 4>someone rocking up to Pakenham to vote today took great

0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:29.319
<v Speaker 4>exception to the trumpets of patriots advertisements which included that

0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:32.719
<v Speaker 4>they were going to should they be elected, to make

0:34:32.760 --> 0:34:37.680
<v Speaker 4>sure that there was record cuts to immigration. This guy

0:34:37.800 --> 0:34:41.440
<v Speaker 4>decided to take matters into his own hands by getting physical.

0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:51.960
<v Speaker 1>We were built on multiculturalism.

0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:55.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, these ads aren't. Who are Australia's about?

0:34:56.920 --> 0:34:58.480
<v Speaker 1>My goodness? Very heated.

0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:03.000
<v Speaker 4>Indeed, let's hope nobody is taking notes and decides to

0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:07.960
<v Speaker 4>behave similarly. But something that always gets me whenever people

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:12.480
<v Speaker 4>make that illustration Australia.

0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Was built on immigration.

0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:17.400
<v Speaker 4>There is a vast difference between today's immigration and the

0:35:17.440 --> 0:35:21.000
<v Speaker 4>settlers of the past, which were very.

0:35:20.960 --> 0:35:22.560
<v Speaker 1>Much Anglo Celtic.

0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:25.720
<v Speaker 4>That's from where they came and gave their blood, sweat

0:35:25.719 --> 0:35:27.799
<v Speaker 4>and tears in order to build what we now know

0:35:27.960 --> 0:35:31.080
<v Speaker 4>is modern Australia. I hate it when people try and

0:35:31.239 --> 0:35:36.880
<v Speaker 4>draw that similar It's not. It's completely differently. But you

0:35:36.880 --> 0:35:40.520
<v Speaker 4>were going to say something, Joan, isn't.

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<v Speaker 3>The point that what how can you be there saying

0:35:45.360 --> 0:35:48.520
<v Speaker 3>how dare you have these posters there? How do you

0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:51.280
<v Speaker 3>have these corfully to This is not what Australia is about,

0:35:51.560 --> 0:35:54.600
<v Speaker 3>But Australia is about kicking the shit out of election

0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:57.239
<v Speaker 3>volunteers because you disagree with them. Like, is that what

0:35:57.239 --> 0:36:02.240
<v Speaker 3>Australia is? I mean to represent Australia and you uncultured brute,

0:36:02.280 --> 0:36:06.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to kick you? Are you not being progressive enough?

0:36:06.760 --> 0:36:08.840
<v Speaker 2>I gotta be honest. When I saw the fight, I

0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:10.800
<v Speaker 2>just figured that was a guy who had just gotten

0:36:10.800 --> 0:36:13.439
<v Speaker 2>sick of trumpet of patriots spamming his phone with those

0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:16.359
<v Speaker 2>text messages that would finally had enough reckon. A few

0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:18.680
<v Speaker 2>of us would identify with that. We're to go to

0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:20.239
<v Speaker 2>a break. When we come back, we look at what's

0:36:20.280 --> 0:36:24.840
<v Speaker 2>making news tomorrow, including the unusual excuse some public servants

0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:26.840
<v Speaker 2>are giving for not wanting to go back to working

0:36:27.000 --> 0:36:27.840
<v Speaker 2>in their offices.

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<v Speaker 13>That's going to have it a month.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's take a look at what's making news in

0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:36.279
<v Speaker 2>tomorrow's papers, and Liz. The front page of Tomorrow's Australian

0:36:36.800 --> 0:36:40.080
<v Speaker 2>has a story about the Labor Party's links with China.

0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:45.200
<v Speaker 4>Indeed, what are you doing the week before the election? Well,

0:36:45.520 --> 0:36:50.960
<v Speaker 4>let's read PM Wong Diane with CCP friends tell us

0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:55.440
<v Speaker 4>more Labor has courted Beijing backed property developers and senior

0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:59.120
<v Speaker 4>figures in the Chinese Communist parties foreign influence arm in

0:36:59.160 --> 0:37:03.560
<v Speaker 4>a pre election push to secure Australian Chinese donations and

0:37:03.640 --> 0:37:07.200
<v Speaker 4>lock in the community's votes in key seats. The Australian

0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:11.000
<v Speaker 4>can reveal Anthony Albanesi celebrated his birthday in March had

0:37:11.000 --> 0:37:14.359
<v Speaker 4>an intimate lunch with the Chinese Building Association of New

0:37:14.400 --> 0:37:18.840
<v Speaker 4>South Wales, which has close ties to state run construction

0:37:18.960 --> 0:37:22.720
<v Speaker 4>firms in China. It goes on to say that Foreign

0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:27.759
<v Speaker 4>Minister Penny Wong enjoyed Yamcha in Brisbane last month with

0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:32.440
<v Speaker 4>ALP donor Peter ZiU Zeng, the president of a Chinese

0:37:32.520 --> 0:37:37.120
<v Speaker 4>cultural association linked to the CCP's United Front Work Department.

0:37:37.560 --> 0:37:40.120
<v Speaker 4>When is labor going to get a clue that now's

0:37:40.239 --> 0:37:43.839
<v Speaker 4>not a good time. You've got Minister Claro O'Neill and

0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:50.080
<v Speaker 4>doctor Monique Ryan now both being investigated by the AEC.

0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:54.080
<v Speaker 4>They've got a task force onto it regarding this CCP

0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:59.200
<v Speaker 4>linked Hube association that was helping them with volunteers for

0:37:59.360 --> 0:38:02.839
<v Speaker 4>both of them campaigns. And now we've got this on

0:38:02.880 --> 0:38:06.279
<v Speaker 4>the front page of the OS less than forty eight hours.

0:38:06.440 --> 0:38:08.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but they did. It was in March though they

0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:10.040
<v Speaker 3>didn't go. They went out to dinner this week.

0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:13.560
<v Speaker 4>Sure, but it's it's timely to let people know.

0:38:13.719 --> 0:38:16.120
<v Speaker 3>Now, that's why the Australian did it.

0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:20.440
<v Speaker 2>There's at least ten seats where Chinese votes are crucial

0:38:20.480 --> 0:38:22.680
<v Speaker 2>to the outcome. And of course.

0:38:22.520 --> 0:38:27.800
<v Speaker 3>Chisholm put that column along pretty well read chist.

0:38:28.160 --> 0:38:30.320
<v Speaker 2>He's a handsome boy and he's an example to the

0:38:30.360 --> 0:38:33.920
<v Speaker 2>world leaders as to how one also the US alliance

0:38:34.000 --> 0:38:35.040
<v Speaker 2>with their Chinese.

0:38:35.960 --> 0:38:40.680
<v Speaker 3>Very fine man according to US Dave McDonald canders who

0:38:40.680 --> 0:38:43.040
<v Speaker 3>doesn't need a couple of pandas you know, it's a

0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:44.239
<v Speaker 3>black and white issue.

0:38:45.880 --> 0:38:47.040
<v Speaker 1>Very very friendly.

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<v Speaker 3>Now onto more election related matters, and the cans Post

0:38:53.280 --> 0:38:58.000
<v Speaker 3>is actually right in the center of Australian political history.

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<v Speaker 3>Here experts pretty close race in Far North Queensland seat

0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:05.600
<v Speaker 3>like hard like Art candidates, see how they do that.

0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:08.120
<v Speaker 3>It's actually like heart, but they say like hard because

0:39:08.120 --> 0:39:09.440
<v Speaker 3>it's like they're going hard.

0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:10.960
<v Speaker 1>We get it, we get it.

0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:12.120
<v Speaker 8>Like Art.

0:39:12.160 --> 0:39:14.200
<v Speaker 3>Candidates put infrastructure on health at the forefront of their

0:39:14.239 --> 0:39:16.839
<v Speaker 3>election pledges, but political analysts say it won't be enough

0:39:17.120 --> 0:39:20.200
<v Speaker 3>to sway the undersided voter. Likehart is held by the

0:39:20.200 --> 0:39:22.800
<v Speaker 3>OLMP by three point four percent margin, but with the

0:39:22.800 --> 0:39:25.600
<v Speaker 3>imminent retirement of long standing MP Warrant Nch, the seat

0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:29.160
<v Speaker 3>has become one of the most marginal in Australia. Central

0:39:29.239 --> 0:39:33.239
<v Speaker 3>Queensland University Senior History in Politics lecturer Joe Collins all

0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:35.760
<v Speaker 3>good first name, said, both sides of politics that recognize

0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:39.200
<v Speaker 3>the need to improve infrastructure and healthcare in far North Queensland.

0:39:39.480 --> 0:39:42.560
<v Speaker 3>So the interesting thing here is that as the of

0:39:42.680 --> 0:39:45.560
<v Speaker 3>knows Warren Inch is so, incumbency in a seat is

0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:48.040
<v Speaker 3>usually figured to be worth about two or three percent.

0:39:48.160 --> 0:39:50.480
<v Speaker 3>So just the fact that you've been the local member,

0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:53.400
<v Speaker 3>people know your face, You've got your stationary allowance. You

0:39:53.400 --> 0:39:55.920
<v Speaker 3>can stick in their letterboxes of you, you know, hugging

0:39:55.960 --> 0:39:59.080
<v Speaker 3>cops and signing things and digging ditches and all that stuff.

0:40:00.320 --> 0:40:02.799
<v Speaker 3>Ch is that on steroids. So he was an enormous

0:40:02.840 --> 0:40:06.279
<v Speaker 3>personal standing, enormous personal popularity. Is seen as a bit

0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:08.600
<v Speaker 3>of a maverick, so he wasn't just a party stourge.

0:40:08.640 --> 0:40:10.560
<v Speaker 3>He often did his own thing. He often stood up

0:40:10.600 --> 0:40:13.880
<v Speaker 3>to the party, especially on gay marriage, I think, and

0:40:13.960 --> 0:40:18.520
<v Speaker 3>also in the when he voted against Malcolm Turnbull for

0:40:18.680 --> 0:40:22.120
<v Speaker 3>Peter Dutton, he wrote on the ballot this is for

0:40:22.239 --> 0:40:27.920
<v Speaker 3>Brendan Nelson and I just like that personal touch that

0:40:28.040 --> 0:40:30.480
<v Speaker 3>speaks to me anyway. So Warren ench has held this

0:40:30.560 --> 0:40:34.880
<v Speaker 3>seat pretty much NonStop for the last twenty billion years.

0:40:34.920 --> 0:40:37.280
<v Speaker 3>The only time he lost it was in two thousand

0:40:37.320 --> 0:40:40.640
<v Speaker 3>and seven in the rud Slide, which of course was

0:40:40.640 --> 0:40:44.680
<v Speaker 3>the most seats that Queensland had ever delivered the Labor Party,

0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:46.279
<v Speaker 3>and that was because they had one of their own

0:40:46.280 --> 0:40:51.480
<v Speaker 3>in Kevin Ryd Kevin O seven. So with him gone

0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:54.279
<v Speaker 3>that three point four percent if we're saying two to

0:40:54.320 --> 0:40:57.560
<v Speaker 3>three percent for a normal incumbent, let alone someone with

0:40:57.600 --> 0:41:02.680
<v Speaker 3>a huge personal popularity who's been around for ever, who

0:41:02.680 --> 0:41:03.160
<v Speaker 3>knows well.

0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:06.360
<v Speaker 2>In twenty nineteen, Scott Morrison pretty much begged Warnich to

0:41:06.760 --> 0:41:10.040
<v Speaker 2>stay in partner and contest the election exactly because I

0:41:10.120 --> 0:41:13.200
<v Speaker 2>knew if Warnich wasn't there that seat would probably fall.

0:41:14.239 --> 0:41:16.759
<v Speaker 2>It looks like it may well fall on Saturday. Let's

0:41:16.800 --> 0:41:19.520
<v Speaker 2>go to the front page of tomorrow's Herald's son. If

0:41:19.560 --> 0:41:23.400
<v Speaker 2>you're sick of Peter Dutton and Anthony Albanezi, well you

0:41:23.440 --> 0:41:25.120
<v Speaker 2>don't have to worry about what they're saying. You can

0:41:25.239 --> 0:41:28.480
<v Speaker 2>read what their partners are saying. The men we know

0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:33.920
<v Speaker 2>and Love says the headline Leaders partners write exclusively for us.

0:41:33.960 --> 0:41:36.960
<v Speaker 2>I've got a question for you, Joe on this one.

0:41:37.360 --> 0:41:40.960
<v Speaker 2>Curly Dutton and Jody Hayden are writing for The Herald's son,

0:41:41.560 --> 0:41:43.680
<v Speaker 2>do you reckon they would sit down with their laptop

0:41:43.719 --> 0:41:47.520
<v Speaker 2>and write the words themselves.

0:41:47.560 --> 0:41:50.759
<v Speaker 3>So you're implying that to.

0:41:50.719 --> 0:41:53.040
<v Speaker 2>Be honest, that you're betting someone does it for them.

0:41:53.640 --> 0:41:55.000
<v Speaker 2>They would give it aersonal touch.

0:41:55.080 --> 0:41:59.359
<v Speaker 3>Would be surprised that there would be someone who would

0:41:59.400 --> 0:42:01.040
<v Speaker 3>look over a sort of polish it and make sure

0:42:01.040 --> 0:42:03.520
<v Speaker 3>they weren't saying anything ridiculous, like you know, you know,

0:42:04.440 --> 0:42:07.240
<v Speaker 3>Curately doesn't saying I think working from home is wonderful.

0:42:07.239 --> 0:42:09.759
<v Speaker 3>I've been doing it for twenty or you know, JODI's saying,

0:42:09.760 --> 0:42:12.080
<v Speaker 3>you know, these tax cuts are pathetic. I couldn't even

0:42:12.080 --> 0:42:14.560
<v Speaker 3>get a cup of coffee. So they'd be someone who

0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:16.279
<v Speaker 3>goes through it, make sure they're not saying anything that

0:42:16.640 --> 0:42:20.600
<v Speaker 3>goes against party policy or is too hot or too

0:42:20.880 --> 0:42:24.480
<v Speaker 3>out there. But no, in most I don't know in

0:42:24.520 --> 0:42:28.000
<v Speaker 3>this exact case, but I know in big things like

0:42:28.040 --> 0:42:30.719
<v Speaker 3>that this that are seen to be either personal or

0:42:30.719 --> 0:42:33.359
<v Speaker 3>that are seen to be really really important, politicians take

0:42:33.400 --> 0:42:37.160
<v Speaker 3>great pride in being the ones who actually do it themselves.

0:42:37.280 --> 0:42:39.759
<v Speaker 3>So if you take example the apology to the Soul

0:42:39.800 --> 0:42:42.760
<v Speaker 3>and Generation that Kevin Rudd did, he wrote that himself,

0:42:42.840 --> 0:42:47.000
<v Speaker 3>and he wrote it himself in a way because he

0:42:47.120 --> 0:42:48.640
<v Speaker 3>knew he had to write it himself, do you know

0:42:48.680 --> 0:42:50.400
<v Speaker 3>what I mean? Like he wrote it himself because it

0:42:50.440 --> 0:42:52.080
<v Speaker 3>was important that he wrote it himself, and so he

0:42:52.120 --> 0:42:54.439
<v Speaker 3>wrote it himself. It doesn't matter whether the words would

0:42:54.440 --> 0:42:56.800
<v Speaker 3>have been any better or worse than if someone else

0:42:57.120 --> 0:42:58.839
<v Speaker 3>had written it, but he knew it was something that

0:42:59.080 --> 0:43:03.120
<v Speaker 3>for posterity was important that the Prime Minister actually did themselves.

0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:06.040
<v Speaker 3>And I suspect this would have been the same thing,

0:43:06.640 --> 0:43:08.440
<v Speaker 3>partly because I think they probably would have had a

0:43:08.440 --> 0:43:10.920
<v Speaker 3>bit of fun and enjoyed doing it, and partly because

0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:12.920
<v Speaker 3>if it had it turned out that this was that

0:43:12.960 --> 0:43:15.000
<v Speaker 3>there was any sort of ghost writer involved in this,

0:43:15.400 --> 0:43:17.799
<v Speaker 3>the whole thing would have been blown up. But I

0:43:17.880 --> 0:43:20.279
<v Speaker 3>just if we could quickly, very quickly, I'm sorry to

0:43:20.640 --> 0:43:23.200
<v Speaker 3>show the whole front page of the Herald Sign if

0:43:23.200 --> 0:43:26.760
<v Speaker 3>we can draw it back up again, just the way

0:43:27.320 --> 0:43:31.600
<v Speaker 3>that the picture splash goes with the splash splash downstairs,

0:43:31.640 --> 0:43:34.319
<v Speaker 3>You've got a picture of the opposition leader with his

0:43:34.360 --> 0:43:36.920
<v Speaker 3>wife and the Prime minister with his girlfriend, and the

0:43:36.960 --> 0:43:41.920
<v Speaker 3>giant headline X texts and tears people.

0:43:42.040 --> 0:43:42.760
<v Speaker 1>To pay attention.

0:43:42.800 --> 0:43:45.600
<v Speaker 3>It's very important line between those two stories that people

0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:46.719
<v Speaker 3>might want to pay attention to.

0:43:47.440 --> 0:43:50.400
<v Speaker 4>Just quickly, we've got the Newcastle heralds here we all know.

0:43:50.480 --> 0:43:54.160
<v Speaker 4>Premium Men's last August issued an edict that all the

0:43:54.200 --> 0:43:57.920
<v Speaker 4>state employees were to get back to work. Oh you

0:43:58.040 --> 0:44:01.600
<v Speaker 4>public servants know, more of them working from home?

0:44:01.719 --> 0:44:02.279
<v Speaker 1>Nonsense.

0:44:02.640 --> 0:44:05.919
<v Speaker 4>But now these guys reckon, they've got nowhere to go.

0:44:06.200 --> 0:44:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Offices out of space. The splash reads.

0:44:09.760 --> 0:44:13.400
<v Speaker 4>Public sector workers say government officers in the Hunter do

0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:16.160
<v Speaker 4>not have the room to accommodate all staff.

0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:17.760
<v Speaker 1>After the New South.

0:44:17.560 --> 0:44:20.880
<v Speaker 4>Wales premier directed workers back to the office, hunting government

0:44:20.920 --> 0:44:23.840
<v Speaker 4>employees for a lack of office space could be costing

0:44:23.880 --> 0:44:27.399
<v Speaker 4>the region jobs and say vacant positions are being advertised

0:44:27.680 --> 0:44:31.680
<v Speaker 4>outside the area without the option to work locally. But

0:44:31.760 --> 0:44:36.280
<v Speaker 4>the government predictably has denied its Hunter officers have issues,

0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:37.960
<v Speaker 4>saying there is quote.

0:44:37.880 --> 0:44:41.080
<v Speaker 1>Enough desk space to meet the needs of staff.

0:44:40.880 --> 0:44:45.560
<v Speaker 4>End quote credibly.

0:44:44.640 --> 0:44:46.760
<v Speaker 2>In order to go back to the office in August

0:44:46.880 --> 0:44:49.040
<v Speaker 2>last year. That was nine months ago.

0:44:50.200 --> 0:44:52.200
<v Speaker 4>Time.

0:44:52.280 --> 0:44:54.160
<v Speaker 3>And also, I bet he did it and he didn't

0:44:54.200 --> 0:44:56.160
<v Speaker 3>have to come out two weeks later and say we're

0:44:56.239 --> 0:44:59.160
<v Speaker 3>terribly sorry about that, we got it completely wrong product,

0:44:59.200 --> 0:45:03.160
<v Speaker 3>because that's how do it. Sensibly did a measured, considered way. Now,

0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:05.719
<v Speaker 3>So I just love Christman so much. I know Liz

0:45:05.760 --> 0:45:07.640
<v Speaker 3>does too, so I feel like I'm speaking for both.

0:45:07.680 --> 0:45:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Wow, Wow, what is this difference?

0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:13.840
<v Speaker 3>Let's go to Gold Coast Bulletin now, and this is

0:45:13.920 --> 0:45:16.880
<v Speaker 3>just an amazing little story. It's the tiniest little postage

0:45:16.880 --> 0:45:19.279
<v Speaker 3>stamp of a story on the front page, but I

0:45:19.360 --> 0:45:22.520
<v Speaker 3>just can't get enough of it. Fire Brigade Staffers thirty

0:45:22.560 --> 0:45:27.200
<v Speaker 3>eight K fraud. It says a former secretary and treasurer

0:45:27.520 --> 0:45:31.280
<v Speaker 3>emptied her volunteer Fire Brigade bank accounts into her own

0:45:31.400 --> 0:45:36.920
<v Speaker 3>for quote, personal and financial reasons unquote. A court has heard.

0:45:38.800 --> 0:45:39.640
<v Speaker 3>What are the reasons?

0:45:39.640 --> 0:45:40.640
<v Speaker 1>Are they?

0:45:40.560 --> 0:45:45.040
<v Speaker 4>Their personal and financial being that I wanted the money.

0:45:46.239 --> 0:45:48.040
<v Speaker 3>I did it for altruistic reasons.

0:45:48.480 --> 0:45:51.160
<v Speaker 2>She ableited guilty and will be sentenced on July.

0:45:51.440 --> 0:45:53.240
<v Speaker 1>I thought it would be safe for mike account.

0:45:53.560 --> 0:45:55.480
<v Speaker 3>Why did you take all your money from this bank

0:45:55.480 --> 0:45:58.680
<v Speaker 3>account and put it in your bank account? Oh, financial reasons?

0:45:59.160 --> 0:46:01.320
<v Speaker 2>When you go to a When we come back, Kamala

0:46:01.320 --> 0:46:05.520
<v Speaker 2>Harris is making speeches again. God help us. We'll show

0:46:05.520 --> 0:46:10.600
<v Speaker 2>you in just a second. Well, Kamala Harris is back,

0:46:10.680 --> 0:46:15.160
<v Speaker 2>unburdened by what has been and seemingly unburdened by sobriety.

0:46:17.080 --> 0:46:19.520
<v Speaker 2>Who saw that video from a couple of weeks ago,

0:46:19.680 --> 0:46:22.080
<v Speaker 2>the one of the elephants at the San Diego Zoo

0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:23.759
<v Speaker 2>during the earthquake.

0:46:26.640 --> 0:46:31.560
<v Speaker 1>Google it if you've not seen it. So that scene

0:46:31.600 --> 0:46:34.680
<v Speaker 1>has been on my mind. Everybody's asking me what you've

0:46:34.680 --> 0:46:35.720
<v Speaker 1>been thinking about these days.

0:46:35.719 --> 0:46:39.520
<v Speaker 3>Well, as soon as they felt the earth shaking beneath

0:46:39.560 --> 0:46:45.200
<v Speaker 3>their feet, they got in a circle and stood next.

0:46:44.920 --> 0:46:45.560
<v Speaker 1>To each other.

0:46:46.840 --> 0:46:48.759
<v Speaker 2>I was going to say America dodged a bullet, but

0:46:48.800 --> 0:46:51.719
<v Speaker 2>I reckon they dodged a nuclear missile. Remember they were

0:46:51.760 --> 0:46:54.400
<v Speaker 2>marketing her. She's going to bring joy. Could you imagine

0:46:54.440 --> 0:46:56.520
<v Speaker 2>four years of that kind of joy?

0:46:57.000 --> 0:47:00.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I was captivated by that. What happened? Actually,

0:47:00.920 --> 0:47:03.200
<v Speaker 1>they got in a circle. I'm on the edge of

0:47:03.239 --> 0:47:04.879
<v Speaker 1>my seat. Now we'll never know.

0:47:04.880 --> 0:47:11.719
<v Speaker 3>Joe, it's there's got to be some kind of neurological

0:47:11.760 --> 0:47:16.560
<v Speaker 3>explanation for this, without a doubt, without a doubt, and

0:47:16.600 --> 0:47:20.279
<v Speaker 3>she like, So imagine people say, you know, people say

0:47:20.400 --> 0:47:22.640
<v Speaker 3>what you been thinking about this whole time? And I

0:47:22.760 --> 0:47:27.840
<v Speaker 3>say elephants, like she's brain damage? There is something actually

0:47:28.480 --> 0:47:31.680
<v Speaker 3>not like what is going on? And yes, I presume

0:47:31.719 --> 0:47:34.880
<v Speaker 3>all the elephants, you know, hug each other and they

0:47:35.080 --> 0:47:39.600
<v Speaker 3>by by by joining together, they stay strong in turbulent times. Okay,

0:47:39.600 --> 0:47:41.279
<v Speaker 3>I can tell you that, I can tell you the

0:47:41.280 --> 0:47:45.359
<v Speaker 3>rest of them. What does that help? How does that

0:47:45.760 --> 0:47:46.400
<v Speaker 3>do anything?

0:47:46.680 --> 0:47:48.239
<v Speaker 1>How does that make anything better? What are we all

0:47:48.239 --> 0:47:48.560
<v Speaker 1>going to do?

0:47:48.680 --> 0:47:50.800
<v Speaker 2>Imagine they could have had Kamala Harris and Tim Watts

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<v Speaker 2>leading the free world.

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<v Speaker 4>Can you imagine though, we would have had endless entertainment.

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<v Speaker 4>Speaking of entertainment, ten year old Duper Wallace from dub

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<v Speaker 4>Chair has taken the gong for second year running for

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<v Speaker 4>the best goal screecher.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, they actually.

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<v Speaker 4>Hold championships in Belgium every single year and he's won

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<v Speaker 4>twice in a row. And here's why, we're told he

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<v Speaker 4>faced shift competition this time from his seven year old

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<v Speaker 4>sister Shelby. Bit of sibling rivalry there, but he is

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<v Speaker 4>more than passionate about goals. Get this, he's trying to

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<v Speaker 4>save them.

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<v Speaker 13>Guls are amazing, birds, but they need our help. They

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<v Speaker 13>are in decline, so we must learn how to live

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<v Speaker 13>alongside them.

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<v Speaker 4>I do think Cooper Wallace is overestimating the passion the

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<v Speaker 4>rest of the Brits probably have.

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<v Speaker 2>Do not eat chips around that kid. That's it, from

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<v Speaker 2>us to the ground, coming up gas The Rid Penny Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Good Night,