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Speaker 1: On Scolds Australia.

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Speaker 2: This is the Reader Panalty Show. Good evening and welcome

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Speaker 2: to the Rita Patty Show. Coming up tonight. Susan Lee

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Speaker 2: under pressure as Andrew Hasty prepares to launch a challenge.

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Speaker 2: Colleen Harkin and Christy McSweeney will join me to cover

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Speaker 2: the day's top headlines. Lefty influencers are losing it a

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Speaker 2: support for Australia days surges to new highs. I'll speak

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Speaker 2: with Klista Clemens about that shortly more reckless retrick from

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Speaker 2: Democrats inciting violence after a fatal ice shooting in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 2: Josh Hammer will provide his insights later, and Brooklyn Beckham

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Speaker 2: maybe falling in Prince Harry's footsteps with a tel Or

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Speaker 2: memoir Kinsey's Schofield will give us all the details about

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Speaker 2: that later in the hour. And left is Losing It

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Speaker 2: isn't just about bananas and rice.

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Speaker 3: You know if people don't think, oh, you can bananas

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Speaker 3: with race, but that's what it's like to be Somali

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Speaker 3: an American. It's like that combination of banana race.

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Speaker 2: But first, Andrew Hasty looks set to challenge Susan Lee

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Speaker 2: for the Liberal leadership after he was given the blessing

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Speaker 2: of his young family. Sources close so Hasty told the

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Speaker 2: Australian newspaper that he had discussed the implications of taking

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Speaker 2: up the job with his wife, Ruth, who said she

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Speaker 2: was fully supportive. The Liberals are in turmoil, with their

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Speaker 2: poll numbers at record lows and the Nationals walking away

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Speaker 2: from the coalition. National leader David Little Proud has refused

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Speaker 2: to say whether he would back Hasty as leader. Liberal

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Speaker 2: Senator Jane Hugh refuse to address the speculation.

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Speaker 4: Susan Lee is the leader. There is no spill. Anything

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Speaker 4: else is simply a hypothetical. No one has called me

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Speaker 4: and asked me to vote for them. Susan Lee is

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Speaker 4: my leader. She has been elected by the party room

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Speaker 4: and we will continue to serve under a leader.

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Speaker 2: Joining me now is Institute of Public Affairs Senior Fellow

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Speaker 2: Colleen Harken and pr Council Managing Director Christy McSweeney. Colleen,

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Speaker 2: I'll start with you. There appeared to be two contenders

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Speaker 2: for this job, Andrew Hasty and Angus Taylor. Who do

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Speaker 2: you think will prevail or is it inevitable? Are we

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Speaker 2: getting ahead of ourselves? Could Lee hold on?

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Speaker 1: I don't see how she can hold on in the

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Speaker 1: longer term. She might in the shorter term because to

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Speaker 1: do it too soon would make it look like they've

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Speaker 1: acquiesced to the National's push. But I think there's a

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Speaker 1: bigger problem here. The Liberal Party in particular, seems to

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Speaker 1: have forgotten what the role.

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Speaker 2: Of opposition is.

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Speaker 1: They've forgotten that their job is not to help labor

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Speaker 1: with bad legislation. Their job is to oppose and to

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Speaker 1: hold them to account. And so now, regardless of whoever

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Speaker 1: may or may not take over in due course, we're

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Speaker 1: stuck with that legislation because the Liberals helped bring it

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Speaker 1: to parts. So in years to come, if they ever

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Speaker 1: do get back into government, they're stuck with this legislation

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Speaker 1: because they were the people who helped get it across

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Speaker 1: the line. There's been an enormous amount of pushback, rightly

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Speaker 1: so about it, and in all of that context, I

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Speaker 1: think the Nationals have held themselves well, although they're starting

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Speaker 1: to look shambolic again today yesterday.

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Speaker 2: It is just such a shame Christy, because it is

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Speaker 2: terrible legislation. It's one thing for the opposition to back

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Speaker 2: good legislation, but to forget that their opposition to forget

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Speaker 2: that they're supposed to stand up for liberal values. And

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Speaker 2: then you've got someone like Hasty who was complicit in

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Speaker 2: passing this legislation. So how is he going to prove

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Speaker 2: to those disaffected Liberal voters who have abandoned the party

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Speaker 2: that they should come back when he passed these so

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Speaker 2: called hate speech laws.

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Speaker 5: Look, there's many people in the conservative side of the

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Speaker 5: Liberal Party, of which Andrew Hasty is won, and there's

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Speaker 5: was Mechalli Cash, Andrew Hasty, James Patterson, John O'Donovan, all conservatives.

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Speaker 5: These people are hardly people that rally oats and policy

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Speaker 2: Side of the faction.

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Speaker 5: They are hardly people who are not free speech supporters.

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Speaker 5: So they have taken a view that let's not stop

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Speaker 5: the perfect being the enemy of the good. However, there

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Speaker 5: are deeper questions to answer about how this legislation is

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Speaker 5: going to be enacted. I don't think there was enough

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Speaker 5: make sure those amendments that were put forward and pass

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Speaker 5: were adequate, and amendments that the Liberal Party would probably

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Speaker 5: support as a whole, and come to a position where

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Speaker 5: both factions could support it. However, that is what happens

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Speaker 5: when you demand that Parliament be recalled and do not

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Speaker 5: have a plan or a strategy of what you will

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Speaker 5: do with your voice once parliament. Well that's reported on

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Speaker 5: once you have won that fart off the back of

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Speaker 5: a couple of wins, calling the Prime Minister, forcing him

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Speaker 5: to call a Royal commission and then forcing him to

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Speaker 5: recall part parliament. Two wins there, And we hate putting

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Speaker 5: this in the context of winning and losing over such

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Speaker 5: tragic circumstances. However, losing that advantage once you have no

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Speaker 5: strategy and no plan, once you get what you want.

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Speaker 2: Well, that is the indictment here, Colleen. Because Susan Lee

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Speaker 2: demanded Parliament be recalled, she had no plan, and it

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Speaker 2: seems like part of the reason these terrible laws were

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Speaker 2: passed was so she could justify that those calls, because

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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister did come out and say, why are

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Speaker 2: you demanding parliament a record when you've really got enough

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Speaker 2: substantial to offer here. And I think it's just such

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Speaker 2: a great shame for the country that we have an

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Speaker 2: Islamist terror attack. And what comes out of that is

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Speaker 2: that the free speech of ordinary Australians is impacted in

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Speaker 2: a negative way, including the ability to robustly talk about

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Speaker 2: Islamism and mass migration and all sorts of other important issues. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Correct, The target that it was supposed to address has

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Speaker 1: not been targeted.

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Speaker 2: He has not been addressed at all.

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Speaker 1: We've got a High Court challenge from the very group

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Speaker 1: that's supposed to have been shut down. Though it's the

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Speaker 1: ordinary Australian who will suffer here in the longer term.

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Speaker 1: There's no way in my view that those MPs could

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Speaker 1: have done due justice, due diligence to five hundred pages

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Speaker 1: of legislation in the two days or whatever it was

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Speaker 1: that they were looking at it. The consequences of this

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Speaker 1: are enormous and I think that there's all trying to

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Speaker 1: backtrack and say it'll will be okay, but I think

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Speaker 1: everybody knows it's bad legislation.

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Speaker 2: Now let's get back to the potential leadership challenge. There's

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Speaker 2: a lot being said about Hasty being from Wa. Christie,

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Speaker 2: can you have a leader from Wa. We've only had

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Speaker 2: one Prime Minister in Australia's history who has been from WA.

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Speaker 2: Does seem to be a bit of an impediment.

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Speaker 5: Look, and this is not my view on backing any

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Speaker 5: candidate that has currently put their hand up or may

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Speaker 5: do so in the future. However, we do have him

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Speaker 5: Beasley was from Western Australia.

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Speaker 2: And it doesn't work out well, And well, it.

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Speaker 5: Did work out well, but he held the job for

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Speaker 5: a long long time. And of course I'm sure Andrew

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Speaker 5: Hasty will argue that Western Australia is now going to

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Speaker 5: form a key part or key involvement in the Liberal

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Speaker 5: Party's policy platform going forward. Shall we ever get some

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Speaker 5: States in housing and infrastructure.

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Speaker 2: In defense.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure he'll run the Western Australian line that WA

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Speaker 5: contributes the most to the running of the national economy

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Speaker 5: and underpins our standard of living in Western Australia, and

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Speaker 5: so all of those things are hugely relevant, and perhaps

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Speaker 5: it might bring some attention to just how relevant Western

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Speaker 5: Australia is. As a proud Western Australian myself. However, as

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Speaker 5: I say, he's got a long long way to go

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Speaker 5: to convince many others of that, as does anyone who

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Speaker 2: Well, we are in the digital age. I think the

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Speaker 2: issue being from WA is a lot less than it

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Speaker 2: was in the past. You know, we're all want our

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Speaker 2: devices twenty four to seven. You can speak to anybody

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Speaker 2: anywhere and you can. I'm pretty sure Hasty has a

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Speaker 2: do media interviews without leaving his electorate if he needs to.

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Speaker 2: Now let's talk about Australia Day. We've had the usual

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Speaker 2: Invasion Day rallies, all the hate and hysterian division, but

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Speaker 2: the polls continue to come in. People are overwhelmingly supportive.

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Speaker 2: Another poll here by the News Court Papers has found

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Speaker 2: an overwhelming majority of Australians would not support businesses they

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Speaker 2: boycott Australia Day. Nearly ninety percent were less likely to

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Speaker 2: support businesses they boycotted Australia, while only three percent that's

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Speaker 2: the lowed minority there were more likely to support those businesses.

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Speaker 2: Ninety six percent said they felt pride when they saw

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Speaker 2: the Australian flag, and this constant bickering over the date

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Speaker 2: of Australia Day was also nominated as the worst thing

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Speaker 2: about the national day. Now. Christy Lush is a company

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Speaker 2: that is protesting Australia Day. They claim for Indigenous people

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Speaker 2: it is a day of mourning, survival, and remembrance, a

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Speaker 2: stark reminder of the violence and dispossession that began with

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Speaker 2: invasion and continues to echo through systems and lived experiences today.

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Speaker 2: I mean, really, Lush should concentrate on the hideous stench

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Speaker 2: that emanates from their stores. I cannot even walk past

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Speaker 2: one of their stores in a shopping center without getting

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Speaker 2: a headache that there's some sort of a nuisance that company.

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Speaker 2: But this is pretty dumb marketing. Sure you're appealing to

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Speaker 2: the three percent, but ninety percent one don't want our

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Speaker 2: corporations to get all political, and if they are getting political,

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Speaker 2: don't be on the wrong side of history.

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Speaker 5: Of course, and this replicates what we've seen from large

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Speaker 5: corporates who have actively publicly put out statements saying we

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Speaker 5: are giving our stuff the choice of celebrating another holiday

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Speaker 5: and coming in to work on Australiada and choosing to

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Speaker 5: have a day off another day of their preference. This

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Speaker 5: is ridiculous that corporates have gone to this extent thinking

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Speaker 5: that that resonates with the majority of Australians.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't.

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Speaker 5: Those numbers that you've pointed out are really really clear,

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Speaker 5: and I think we're seeing a backlash of people who

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Speaker 5: are just constantly sick of people not celebrating Australia.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely our national day. And it's not about the date,

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Speaker 2: because if you're actually familiar with the date, if you're

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Speaker 2: familiar with the date of the arrival, you wouldn't be

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Speaker 2: perturbed by January twenty sixth I learn your history. First

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Speaker 2: of all, it's about opposition to any celebration of Australia.

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Speaker 2: You could change the date to whatever you like, whatever

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Speaker 2: they suggest, and they will still have protests on that day.

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Speaker 2: But on the corporate virtue signaling, we saw this last year, Colleen.

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Speaker 2: We had a major hospitality group more than two hundred

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Speaker 2: venues across Australia, Australian Venues Company. They were forced to

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Speaker 2: no acknowledgment of Australia Day, or January twenty sixth as

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Speaker 2: they called it. Companies are starting to figure out there's

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Speaker 2: a price to pay, because for a long time, as

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Speaker 2: long as you were virtue signaling to the left, they

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Speaker 2: felt pretty safe because the right kind of just you know,

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Speaker 2: opt it. But now the rest of the country, the

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Speaker 2: silent majority is saying nah, enough. We've had it, well,

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Speaker 2: we saw it.

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Speaker 1: We've always pay the price with the lack of shoppers

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Speaker 1: attending their stores. Look, I mean, in any given year

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Speaker 1: there is Sorry Day, Nadock Week, Reconciliation Week. Australians have

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Speaker 1: recognized what's happened in the past, We've said sorry. All

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Speaker 1: Australians want to move on and celebrate our national Day together.

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Speaker 1: Christie's citing just there. Of the people who were given

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Speaker 1: the choice of taking a different day of holiday, eighteen

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Speaker 1: to twenty four year olds at IPA research will tell

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Speaker 1: you that eighty three percent of them say no, we want.

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Speaker 2: To celebrate it on Australia Day.

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Speaker 1: We're proud of our country, We're proud of who we are.

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Speaker 2: The people who are.

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Speaker 1: Doing this have no knowledge of history. They should come

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Speaker 5: Before they carry on with all of this and not

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Speaker 2: in the last twelve months. Colleen Harken, Christop mcsquaeney, thank

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Speaker 6: How many times have you heard that Australia has no

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Speaker 7: Let me be clear to you little freaks.

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Speaker 2: This land is my land. I was born here.

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Speaker 6: My skin color and my bloodlines do not dictate my

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Speaker 2: Tell me about the anti Australia Day sentiment. It reaches

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Speaker 6: Well, thank you so much having me on reader, and

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Speaker 6: happy Australia Days, Australia Day if you're lucky enough to

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Speaker 2: It's not. And they are losing the they're losing the population,

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Speaker 2: they're losing the majority. There was a Resolve poll today

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Speaker 4: Yeah, totally.

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Speaker 6: I think my stances.

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Speaker 7: Let them rage.

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Speaker 6: At the end of the day, it's going to be

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Speaker 2: So a lot of these.

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Speaker 6: Influencers who are rage baiting us, look there there are

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Speaker 7: Reader.

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Speaker 2: Now you didn't name any there, but I mean a

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Speaker 6: There no correct You know, you've just said two of

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Speaker 2: They do give you a word bit of They do

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Speaker 6: They do, which I'm grateful for that that I think

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Speaker 6: that's the only thing I'm grateful for those two women.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, I think it's it's disappointing when you have there,

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Speaker 2: Now, let's talk about one of these so called insta

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Speaker 8: Chech Australian culture, right, you know, the proud culture of

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Speaker 8: having no teeth, yelling unintelligible phrases, screaming profanity. It's strangers

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Speaker 8: Real Australia first behavior, mate, Yeah, nah, you're doing great,

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Speaker 2: Yeah jeez, I can't understand why they're losing support. They're

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Speaker 6: I mean too influential, too prevalent, because I don't want

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Speaker 2: Give you materials. They give the material right side, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: And look, I feel a lot of pity for these

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Speaker 6: and it kills people's livelihoods, people's financial livelihoods when it

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Speaker 2: Reader Clister clements. Thank you so much for time.

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Speaker 6: Time having me, Reader, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Still to coma lefties Losing it plass the latest from

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Speaker 2: You're watching the Reader Panney show, and it's time for

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Speaker 2: lefties losing it. Let's start in Minnesota where the spin

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Speaker 2: doctors have been busy fighting back after revelations of mass

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Speaker 2: fraud and dysfunction in the Somali community, and they're putting

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Speaker 2: media to explain what it means to be Somali in America.

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Speaker 3: So I'm Samaria.

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Speaker 2: I I'm proud to be.

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Speaker 3: To me, being Somali isn't just eating bananas with race.

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Speaker 2: It's a it's a lie. It's like.

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Speaker 3: It's a it's a it's an interesting thing. It's a

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Speaker 3: it's very hard to describe what it means to be

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Speaker 2: You've already made it clear that being Somali is not

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Speaker 3: It's kind of like the bananas and race. You know,

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Speaker 2: You literally said it wasn't about bananas and rice. They

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Speaker 2: are not sending their best now staying in Minnesota, let's

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Speaker 2: check in on the frightfully inept Governor Tim Walls. He

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Speaker 9: The resistance matters.

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Speaker 7: We're not knowing people to be silent.

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Speaker 8: But we're not yelling people to go out and cause problem.

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Speaker 5: We're going to cause good.

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Speaker 2: Trouble, cause trouble, all right, Not good trouble, mind you.

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Speaker 2: No good comes from coming to a violent uprising with

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Speaker 10: What's going on in our country right now is absolutely

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Speaker 2: So pretty, it's so stupid Americans coming out to support

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Speaker 2: But again the facts are lost on the Hollywood darlings.

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Speaker 11: The world is hurting right now, and this country is

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Speaker 2: It's hideous.

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Speaker 11: And so if we can do anything out here to

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Speaker 11: unbelievably criminal organization, then that's what we should be doing.

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Speaker 11: So I'm proud to wear them.

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Speaker 2: And here is Chris Kumo, looking like he hasn't slept

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Speaker 2: or showered for days. And according to the Pharmacy and

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Speaker 2: n Hack, it is the government that must back down,

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Speaker 2: let the violent agitators and insurrectionists have their day. Great idea, Chris.

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Speaker 12: The video accounts show a very troubling episode that beg

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Speaker 12: These are the people who are charged with knowing how

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Speaker 2: Let's bring in Newsweek's senior editor at Large and Article

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Speaker 13: Do you agree, reader, Last I checked, it wasn't the

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Speaker 13: so evocative of some of the worst moments in American history.

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Speaker 13: Look I'm born in Abraham Lincoln's birthday. I think about

438
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Speaker 13: the American Civil War a lot, probably more often, frankly

439
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Speaker 13: than I should. When we look at what some of

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Speaker 13: today's leading provocateurs, these Minnesota anarchiss insurrectionists, who have been

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Speaker 13: essentially trying to serve the passions of the anti ICE

442
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Speaker 13: demagoguery there, people like Tim Walls and Keith Ellison and

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Speaker 13: Jacob Fry. I was listening to Keith Ellis and the

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Speaker 13: Attorney General of Minnesota. He was reading off his complaints

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Speaker 13: from this lawsuit that the State of Minnesota has filed

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Speaker 13: against DHS and ICE alongside the City of Minneapolis. There,

447
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Speaker 13: and he was saying, how the Tenth Amendment and states rights,

448
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Speaker 13: the federal government does not belong here. And I'm sitting

449
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Speaker 13: there thinking to myself, Man, if you took this Muslim

450
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Speaker 13: guy from Minnesota and you put on a thick Southern accent,

451
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Speaker 13: the ten Amendment states rods, the federal government does not

452
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Speaker 13: belong here, It's like, my God, like, we literally fought

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Speaker 13: a civil war over this. I mean, this is literally

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Speaker 13: just nineteen forties or eighteen forties, eighteen fifties era anti

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Speaker 13: Bellum Southern secessionary fervor. I mean, this is the ghost

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Speaker 13: of John C. Calhoun, Jefferson Davis, Stonewall Jackson. They don't

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Speaker 13: see it that way, but that's literally exactly what it is.

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Speaker 13: So look, you know, on the one hand, Minnesota looks

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Speaker 13: like a failed state, and certainly, on the one hand,

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Speaker 13: as an economic conservative, I don't necessarily want to waste

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Speaker 13: resources trying to rehabilitate this clearly clearly failed boondog will say.

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Speaker 13: On the other hand, on the other hand, the unmitigated

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Speaker 13: supremacy of federal law, which by the way, is a

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Speaker 13: constitutionally required proposition under Article six of the Constitution. That's

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Speaker 13: the supremacy clause its constitutions required. And oh yeah, as

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Speaker 13: I said, we literally fought a civil war. Over six

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Speaker 13: hundred thousand Americans died, They paid the ultimate sacrifice who

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Speaker 13: established the timeless principle that federal law is supreme in

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Speaker 13: this country. And now it's on the trumdministration to enforce that,

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Speaker 13: to enforce the lessons of Abraham Lincoln not to bow

471
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Speaker 13: on the face of the dollar in Chris Cuomo and

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Speaker 13: various other nikompoops like.

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Speaker 2: That, Josh, it is curious that Ice is operating across America,

474
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Speaker 2: but it's just in a select few blue cities, often

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Speaker 2: riddled with fraud and crime, where this sort of violence,

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Speaker 2: this sort of uprising is occurring. Tell me about this

477
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Speaker 2: latest case we know about this man who was shot dead.

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Speaker 2: He came to this protest with a loaded gun, and

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Speaker 2: he had a fair amount of ammunition with him. He

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Speaker 2: had a license to carry that gun. Who would come

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Speaker 2: to a protest with a loaded gun knowing you're going

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Speaker 2: to have contact with law enforcement.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, just not a very smart thing to do, Okay.

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Speaker 13: I think that's kind of the underesteeming the sanctuary. I

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Speaker 13: say that, by the way, as someone who was a concer,

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Speaker 13: he'll carry holder. I carry a firearm essentially every single

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Speaker 13: day in my life. But if hypothetically, if I were

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Speaker 13: so inclined to go here in the United States, here

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Speaker 13: in Florida where I live, if I were hypothetically inclined

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Speaker 13: to go to some to go to some protests, I

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Speaker 13: probably would think twice about bringing lethal force, especially in

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Speaker 13: a situation in a boiling pot like this. I mean,

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Speaker 13: this is happening, what two weeks after the after the

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Speaker 13: death of Renee Good, after she was after she was

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Speaker 13: shouted at by her by her partner, Drive Baby drive,

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Speaker 13: you know, leading this this isation, John van Ross to

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Speaker 13: fire shots. The guy who, by the way, was sent

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Speaker 13: to the hospital. A lot of people forgot that detail

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Speaker 13: that the agent and the in the Renee Good case

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Speaker 13: went to the hospital actually because he had he had

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Speaker 13: some internal bleeding and some hip damage there. He was

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Speaker 13: subsequently released there. This is dangerous stuff. This is dangerous stuff.

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Speaker 13: And you know exactly what you were doing if you

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Speaker 13: if you are bringing lethal weaponry to a government protest,

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Speaker 13: let alone a protest in any situation, nothing like that.

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Speaker 13: Bye bye. By all accounts, by all account bas and

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Speaker 13: everything that I have read, the individual here, Alex pretty

508
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Speaker 13: was told numerous times to stop what he was doing,

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Speaker 13: to turn over his firearmy, and just to follow orders,

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Speaker 13: more generally to follow the federal agent's orders there. He

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Speaker 13: refused to do that, and tragically, that's why he's no.

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Speaker 2: Longer with us. Because we're not talking just about protests here,

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Speaker 2: peaceful protests, robust protests. We're talking about active obstruction of

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Speaker 2: law enforcement. We're talking about aggressive actions. It's a very

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Speaker 2: different phenomenon to just showing up somewhere and protesting against

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Speaker 2: what's happening because you don't agree with it. Now. You

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Speaker 2: mentioned you've got to concealed carry license, and from what

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Speaker 2: I understand, anyone who has one of those is told

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Speaker 2: repeatedly through every step of the process, do not engage

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Speaker 2: with police if you're carrying, not aggressively, not violently. You've

521
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Speaker 2: just got to be hyper alert if you are carrying

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Speaker 2: a loaded gun and you come in contact with police,

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Speaker 2: because of course they are on high themselves.

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Speaker 13: Oh yeah, and you know it's not just police, but

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Speaker 13: it's also just all federal agents. All federal property are

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Speaker 13: generally speaking here. Look, I mean you go to any

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Speaker 13: airport here and pretty much any airport in the United States,

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Speaker 13: there there's a large sign from TSA, which does the

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Speaker 13: airport screenings, that says, make sure you're not carrying a

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Speaker 13: weapon when you go through the melitecher there. There is

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Speaker 13: a glaringly obvious sign in every airport. It's also federal

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Speaker 13: court rooms. Look, I mean, I'm a lawyer. I know

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Speaker 13: a bunch of judges. So I think it was about

534
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Speaker 13: a year and a half ago or so, I got

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Speaker 13: lunch with a federal judge here in Miami with him

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Speaker 13: and his law clerks there, and I left my firearm

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Speaker 13: at home because I'm not going to bring a gun

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Speaker 13: into a federal courthouse where there are US marshals. It's

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Speaker 13: called common sense. I mean, we have a Second Amendment

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Speaker 13: in this country, and thank God for that. I'm a

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Speaker 13: huge proponent of the Second Amendment. We also have a

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Speaker 13: thing between the ears here and there not getting called

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Speaker 13: common sense, and it's in common upon all of us

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Speaker 13: to not leave our common sense at home, no matter

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Speaker 13: how much people like Tim Walls and Keith Ellison and

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Speaker 13: Jiggle Fry are trying to stir up the passions of

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Speaker 13: the deep impressionable.

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Speaker 2: I played a clip of Tim Wolves earlier. His comments

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Speaker 2: just so reckless you could argue inciting violence. Here is

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Speaker 2: another Democrat, Mark Kelly, saying that the agitator who was

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Speaker 2: shot dead here was killed for no reason whatsoever.

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Speaker 14: Hey, everybody has Senator Mark Kelly.

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Speaker 12: Hay.

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Speaker 14: I watched that video of Minneapolis today, probably watched it

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Speaker 14: a dozen times. Pretty obvious that this man was shot

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Speaker 14: dead in the street for no reason.

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Speaker 2: Where is the responsibility just to take a minute and

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Speaker 2: let the process take place. Let's have an investigation to

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Speaker 2: see precisely what happened and I've seen that video multiple

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Speaker 2: times myself, and how he could come to the conclusion

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Speaker 2: that that man was shot for no reason whatsoever, was

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Speaker 2: just some sort of cold blooded murder without provocation. It

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Speaker 2: is incredible to me, Josh, So it's incredible.

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Speaker 13: And again, Rito, we just saw this. I mean to me,

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Speaker 13: this is the most remarkable part of all this there

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Speaker 13: is that we just saw this play out like literally

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Speaker 13: two weeks ago. So immediately when Renee Good was killed

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Speaker 13: by Johnathan Rossi the ice station there, they said, oh

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Speaker 13: my god, it's murdering cold blood. She's trying to swerve

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Speaker 13: to get away from the video. But then O wait,

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Speaker 13: we saw a second camera angle. We saw the cars

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Speaker 13: actually going right at john thrustigation. O wait, then we

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Speaker 13: find out that there was actually a hospital record of

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Speaker 13: the agent being admitted to the hospital because he was

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Speaker 13: hit and he had internal bleeding around his waist and

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Speaker 13: hit Perrier there. Then O wait, we saw the video

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Speaker 13: of the partner saying drive baby, drive instact in there.

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Speaker 13: So these things do take time to actually learn all

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Speaker 13: of the details of the situation there. And I think

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Speaker 13: back to those to those first moments after the Renee

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Speaker 13: Good shooting. You had zoramm Donnie AOC and saying that

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Speaker 13: she was murdered. Renee Goo was murdered. That's what Mark

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Speaker 13: Kelly's saying here too about Alex Pray, that this is

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Speaker 13: murder and cold blood on the streets of America. There

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Speaker 13: have you people not learned your lesson? What are you

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Speaker 13: trying to do? I mean, I mean, ironically, these democrats

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Speaker 13: like Mark Kelly, they're claiming they're purporting to care about

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Speaker 13: Americans feelings there actually, do you know what the single

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Speaker 13: best thing, the single best thing to protect the health, safety,

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Speaker 13: and security, prosperity and flourishing of the American people to

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Speaker 13: have law enforcements do their job. It's not like they're

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Speaker 13: going Dora door trying to find the guy who's picking

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Speaker 13: strawberries down the local farm. They're going Dora door trying

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Speaker 13: above all to find people like sex offenders and child

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Speaker 13: sex traffickers and gang beggers and murderers and rapists and

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Speaker 13: transnational criminals. That's what they're trying to do. So if

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Speaker 13: you want the American people to be safe, which if

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Speaker 13: you take Mark Kelly at his word, and you probably shouldn't,

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Speaker 13: we were taken a word. That's what he seems to

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Speaker 13: want there, then you should support Ice to the t.

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Speaker 13: Final note on this, I have to know that Mark

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Speaker 13: Kelly is from a very interesting state when it comes

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Speaker 13: to the whole immigration conversation. He's from Arizona, a safe that,

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Speaker 13: alongside Texas, has really kind of ground zero for America's

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Speaker 13: ever roiling immigration wars. Does Mark Kelly think that it

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Speaker 13: is good politics there in the state of Arizona to

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Speaker 13: be going this soft, this soft on immigration for us

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Speaker 13: and there, I think he's going to be in for

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Speaker 13: a very very rude awakening when it comes to his

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Speaker 13: senatorial reelection if he keeps us up.

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Speaker 2: Frankly, now, we've heard plenty of reckless metric from Democrats,

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Speaker 2: some of them arguably inciting violence, but the influencers are

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Speaker 2: also doing their big josh. Here is one encouraging is

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Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of followers to learn how to shoot guns.

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Speaker 15: You all need to be arming yourselves right now. You

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Speaker 15: all need to learn how to shoot guns. You all

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Speaker 15: need to learn how to protect yourselves. You guys need

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Speaker 15: to learn what to do in a situation where you

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Speaker 15: get detained and how to help your friends when they

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Speaker 15: are getting detained. You all need to become aware of

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Speaker 15: what's happening right now and how there is no protesting

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Speaker 15: this without some sort of militant action.

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Speaker 2: There you go, there's no so protesting this without some

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Speaker 2: sort of militant action. And the coverage of this story,

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Speaker 2: I've got to tell you globally is as you would expect,

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Speaker 2: is the regurgitation of the MSNBCCNN line that this was

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Speaker 2: just completely unjustified. These are peaceful protesters that are being

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Speaker 2: shot in cold blood. But there you get an idea

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Speaker 2: of the messaging that some of these activists are receiving,

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Speaker 2: and sadly some of them are listening Josh and turning

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Speaker 2: up to a violent protest with a loaded gun.

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Speaker 13: These people like that so called influencer I've not heard remembered.

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Speaker 13: Apparently he's an influencer. They're trying to get people killed. Okay,

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Speaker 13: that is literally what they are trying to do. They're

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Speaker 13: trying to stir up the passions and people like Renee

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Speaker 13: Good and people like Alex Pray. They're trying to put

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Speaker 13: them out there as Canon fighter, as Canon fighter for

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Speaker 13: what I mean to accomplish, what is out there make

639
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Speaker 13: people angrier and angrier against Ice. By the way, it's

640
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Speaker 13: actually not even working. There was a poll from the

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Speaker 13: New York Times Siena College when one of our most

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Speaker 13: reputable pollsters the United States there and they did it

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Speaker 13: that a lot of questions, massive survey just last week,

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Speaker 13: and one of the questions was approved disapprove of Donald

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Speaker 13: Trump's handling of immigration enforcements fifty to forty seven net approval. So,

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Speaker 13: despite all of this, despite all the information operation from

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Speaker 13: ms NOW and CNN and all the usual suspects there,

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Speaker 13: the American people still still by and large support Donald

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Speaker 13: Trump's immigration agenda. By the way, Hispanics were actually barely

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Speaker 13: underwater by like ten points or maybe even just under

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Speaker 13: that in that New York Times Siena College bowl there.

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Speaker 13: So the notion that this is a huge political liability

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Speaker 13: for the trumpministration, I think is just total gobbledybook with

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Speaker 13: no semblance in reality there. So you're not really going

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Speaker 13: to score political points. What are you trying to do? Like,

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Speaker 13: what is the goal here other than to get people

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Speaker 13: killed on both sides of the standoff, innocent people who

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Speaker 13: are going to be riled up to try to do

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Speaker 13: thequote unquote right thing there where you're trying to get

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Speaker 13: more Ice agents killed as well, and ultimately read that

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Speaker 13: ultimate ability is where I come down to me.

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Speaker 11: It is.

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Speaker 13: There in the radical left. To be a left that's

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Speaker 13: going back to the French Revolution means that you believe

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Speaker 13: to some extent in violence. We saw that with the

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Speaker 13: murder of my friend Charlie Kirk. We've seen it with

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Speaker 13: the multiple attempts of assassination on Donald Trump's life. We

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Speaker 13: saw with the assassination of the Night Healthcare CEO from

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Speaker 13: this socialized medicine fanatic. We see it over and over

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Speaker 13: and over again. There they are willing able and times

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Speaker 13: eager to resort to violence, and it's horrific, horrific stuff there.

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Speaker 13: And frankly, that above balls what we're seeing playing out

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Speaker 13: here along with this neo Confederates insurrection behavior that ultimately

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Speaker 13: must be stomped and crushed by the sheer might enforce

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Speaker 13: of federal law enforcement.

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Speaker 2: Now, we've had a bunch of actors in Stained Flauencer's

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Speaker 2: activists emoting wildly about what's happening in Minneapolis, But we

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Speaker 2: cannot forget Steve Kerr, the Golden State Larrior's head coach,

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Speaker 2: has spoken of his love for Minnesota, and he's decried

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Speaker 2: the misinformation in the media about what's happening in the

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Speaker 2: state of Minnesota. I think I agree with him about that, Josh,

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Speaker 2: probably not for the same reasons. But there has been

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Speaker 2: so much misinformation. You talked about what happened two weeks

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Speaker 2: ago with Renee Good, what's happening right now with his

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Speaker 2: latest shooting. But the amount of misinformation we saw in

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Speaker 2: the past week about a five year old that was

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Speaker 2: supposedly snatched by ice was astonishing, even by the standards

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Speaker 2: we've come to us to sadly, except Josh tell us

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Speaker 2: what really happened in this case.

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Speaker 13: So first of all, you know, Steve Kerr is something

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Speaker 13: of a said keep I mean, I remember watching this

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Speaker 13: guy back in nineteen nineties, back when he was a

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Speaker 13: sharpshooter for the Chicago Bulls. Steve Kerr was Michael Jordan's

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Speaker 13: team antem many of those Chicago Bulls. Seems there he

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Speaker 13: had a beautiful jump shot. This guy is an is

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Speaker 13: it totally bonkers out to left field? Left this it

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Speaker 13: was either his father or someone very close to him,

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Speaker 13: Rita who was killed and a hes Bollah terrorst attack

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Speaker 13: in Lebanon in the early nineteen eighties and to this

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Speaker 13: day Steve Kerr is one of the biggest cheerleaders of

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Speaker 13: the anti Israel Palestinian Arab caused it, which is just

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Speaker 13: it makes your mind just want to explode. There, So

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Speaker 13: here he is yet again there and frankly, I think

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Speaker 13: back to that line from Laura Ingram so many years

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Speaker 13: ago talking about Lebron James, which is just shut up

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Speaker 13: and dribble, or in this case of Steve's Kurr, shut

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Speaker 13: up in coach. He's actually very good coach, by the way,

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Speaker 13: if he stuck to that, maybe he would have frankly,

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Speaker 13: a lot more success there in our conversations like this,

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Speaker 13: look this misinformation about this five year old boy there,

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Speaker 13: that's not what happened. They were not going after the

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Speaker 13: five year old boy. They were going after the actual

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Speaker 13: father there. The five year old boy was essentially there

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Speaker 13: right in the way there. But that's what they do.

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Speaker 13: They take the tiniest, tiniest morsel of connection to the

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Speaker 13: story and they run with it in an entirely different direction,

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Speaker 13: because again, the ultimate goal here is not to deliver

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Speaker 13: the truth. It is to stir the passions, as demagogues

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Speaker 13: have been doing for thousands of years there. It turns

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Speaker 13: out that today one of the biggest places where these

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Speaker 13: passions are unleashed is on federal law enforcement. So reader,

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Speaker 13: like many Americans, I pray, I really do pray for

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Speaker 13: the health and safety and efficacy of this nation's federal

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Speaker 13: law enforcement apprians because they are UNDERSEGD now, they are

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Speaker 13: absolutely underseiegs there. They need our support, they need our prayers,

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Speaker 13: and ultimately they need the courage to do their job

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Speaker 13: because the rule of law depends on Without the rule

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Speaker 13: of law, there is no society, there is no freedom,

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Speaker 13: there is no liberty, There's nothing.

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Speaker 2: Josh Amma, thank you so much for your time tonight.

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Speaker 2: Thank you still to come. Glen Beckham is said to

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Speaker 2: follow in Prince Harry's footsteps with a tell memoir exposing

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Speaker 2: his family. Kinsisco Field has the details. Welcome joining me now,

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Speaker 2: celebrity and royal commentator and host of Kinsey Schofield Unfiltered

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Speaker 2: Kinsey Schofield. Let's start with David and Victoria Beckham. They

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Speaker 2: are reportedly in crisis mode amid speculation their eldest son, Brooklyn,

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Speaker 2: is preparing to publish a tell all biography exposing his

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Speaker 2: allegedly greedy and self obsessed parents. Beckham biographer Tom Bauer

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Speaker 2: has written in The Daily Mail Brooklyn might be a

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Speaker 2: spoiled brat, but when it comes to sympathy, the twenty

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Speaker 2: six year old winds hands down. If there were ever

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Speaker 2: a victim of rapacious parents and a dysfunctional family, it's

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Speaker 2: the Beckham's eldest son, Wow Kinsey. This sounds appalling, and

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Speaker 2: yet I can't look away.

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Speaker 9: And Tom Bauer always has his hands exactly where we

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Speaker 9: want it, whether it's Harry and Megan drama are the Beckhams, Tom.

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Speaker 7: Bauer is the guy.

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Speaker 9: I don't doubt that growing up in the Beckham household

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Speaker 9: came with pressure, but I have a heart time extending

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Speaker 9: real sympathy to someone who has been handed every possible advantage.

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Speaker 9: Brooklyn has had to work for very little, married into

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Speaker 9: a billionaire family, and will never face genuine financial insecurity.

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Speaker 9: At some point, we need to reserve our empathy for

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Speaker 9: real world struggles, not extremely privileged adults who resent the

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Speaker 9: very lives their parents built for them. I think David

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Speaker 9: and Victoria understand the business, the stakes, and the long game. Brooklyn,

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Speaker 9: frankly is still figuring out who he is, and let's

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Speaker 9: hope it's not a chef okay.

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Speaker 2: Or a photographer because that photography book, Yeah, that ain't

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Speaker 2: a work of genius. But I have heard other commentators,

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Speaker 2: people who are normally trusted, say that all is not

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Speaker 2: what it seems with David and Victoria Beckham. They have

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Speaker 2: crafted this public image that's very masterful, the very likable, relatable,

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Speaker 2: but it's not authentic. What do you say to that?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I remember the whole Rebecca Lose thing, the

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Speaker 2: fact that David was sleeping with the nanny and Victoria

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Speaker 2: just look the other way and it wasn't an isolated incident,

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Speaker 2: and then it makes you question the whole persona, the

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Speaker 2: whole image they put out, whether there's anything real about it.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean Tom Bower wrote a really great book

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Speaker 9: about your point right there, about how much so much

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Speaker 9: of it is theater, so much of it is highly choreographed,

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Speaker 9: and how hateful they could be towards each other in

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Speaker 9: this pursuit for fame, celebrity and money.

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Speaker 7: But I'm obsessed with it. I can't not love them.

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Speaker 7: I don't know, there's something that the ambition in them.

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Speaker 7: I admire it.

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Speaker 9: I admire the never complain, never explain they continue to

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Speaker 9: show up.

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Speaker 7: I admire the commitment.

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Speaker 2: Reader, Well, yeah, it's entertaining. I've got to say they

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Speaker 2: do make good reality TV, much better than Megan and Harry,

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Speaker 2: who will talk about shortly now. Prominent Hollywood stars have

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Speaker 2: used the Sundance Film Festival to condemn the shooting of

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Speaker 2: Alex Pretty by ice agents in Minnesota. One of these actresses,

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Speaker 2: Olivia Wilde. I featured her earlier a set that she

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Speaker 2: was appalled she was wearing an Ice out badge. Let's

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Speaker 2: hear from her again.

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Speaker 11: World is hurting right now, and this country is hurting

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Speaker 11: and it's appalling. I'm appalled, I'm sickond and we can't

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Speaker 11: go another day. Just sort of accepting this as our

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Speaker 11: new norm. It's it's outrageous people are being murdered.

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Speaker 2: Natalie Portman also had a lot to say, Kinsey.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean there is something surreal about condemning Ice

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Speaker 9: whilst standing at an elite Sundance event surrounded by.

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Speaker 7: Wealth and status.

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Speaker 9: That disconnect is why critics see moments like this as

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Speaker 9: virtue signaling rather than meaningful out vocacy.

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Speaker 7: I would take Olivia while much more.

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Speaker 9: Seriously if she said, and that's why I've donated this

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Speaker 9: amount of money to the victim's family, but you never

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Speaker 9: hear you never hear that, but yes. Natalie Portman also

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Speaker 9: said that while they were at Sundance, she felt like

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Speaker 9: she was seeing beauty from Americans. They're showing up for

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Speaker 9: each other, protecting each other, and fighting for their freedom.

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Speaker 9: She said, it's a bittersweet moment to celebrate something we're

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Speaker 9: so proud of on the backdrop of our nation and pain.

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Speaker 7: So I don't know. It's a double edged sword. Acknowledge it.

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Speaker 2: They're so desperately out of touch. It really is kind

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Speaker 2: of comic cool, but it is also pathetic because you

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Speaker 2: never hear them come out and say anything when you

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Speaker 2: have innocent people slaughtered by people who are in the

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Speaker 2: country illegally. They say nothing about the fact that the

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Speaker 2: murder rate in the US dropped by around twenty percent

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Speaker 2: last year, the biggest drop in a single year. That

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Speaker 2: care about that. All they care about is this sort

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Speaker 2: of division and regurgitating the hard lefts talking points and

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Speaker 2: pretending they're somehow enlightened and kind. I mean, give me

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Speaker 2: a break. I've got very little patience for them, and

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Speaker 2: very little patience for Kristen Stewart and other actress who's

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Speaker 2: gone on an insane anti Trump rant saying she wants

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Speaker 2: to make movies in Europe then shove them down the

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Speaker 2: throats of the American people because reality is breaking under Trump. Kinsey,

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Speaker 2: she is about the worst actress I think that's come

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Speaker 2: out of Hollywood in the last two decades. But tell

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Speaker 2: me about this new political activism from.

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Speaker 7: Her, I mean, is it new?

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Speaker 9: Every time she doesn't wear pants, I'm assuming she's trying

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Speaker 9: to make some form of a political statement. But Christian

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Speaker 9: Stewart preaching morality is a tough sell for audiences who

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Speaker 9: remember her very public controversies. This is the same woman

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Speaker 9: that she on Robert Pattinson with her married director in

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Speaker 9: front of the entire world. People are done being lectured

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Speaker 9: by Hollywood, and the industry is now paying the price

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Speaker 9: for that disconnect.

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Speaker 7: A lot of them are unemployed.

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Speaker 9: We talk a lot about how there's no work here

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Speaker 9: for entertainers thanks to Gavin Newsome.

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Speaker 7: But it's also this lecturing right here.

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Speaker 9: People want an escape, they want to get away, and

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Speaker 9: they're tired of being told about how awful the world

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Speaker 9: is by these people in Chanel that are living their

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Speaker 9: best lives.

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Speaker 2: And it's just so vacuous. That's the problem. If these

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Speaker 2: were people who had taken the time to be fully

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Speaker 2: informed about an issue, and we're talking from a position

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Speaker 2: of deep knowledge, they need go Okay, there's at least

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Speaker 2: something we're learning here, but it's always so vacuous and pointless. Now.

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Speaker 2: Prince Harry Megan Mikael also appeared at sun Dance to

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Speaker 2: promote their latest documentary, Cookie Queens, which follows the story

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Speaker 2: of four determined girl scouts as they navigate the multimillion

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Speaker 2: dollar business of cookie sALS. Kid See the doco is

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Speaker 2: already turning out to be a bit of a flop.

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Speaker 2: It failed to sell out and fill the theater even

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Speaker 2: at the Festival's that's not a good sign.

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Speaker 7: It's not a good sign.

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Speaker 9: You'd imagine that celebrities would be crawling, you know, so

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Speaker 9: excited about being associated with royals in some way, shape

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Speaker 9: or form, but that just wasn't the case. Is the

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Speaker 9: lights went low and the film began roughly one hundred

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Speaker 9: and fifty unoccupied seats.

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Speaker 7: Scattered throughout the theater.

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Speaker 9: Page six reports that weightlisters, which are you know, the nobodies,

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Speaker 9: slowly filled empty places that were reserved for the high

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Speaker 9: profile Sun Dance passholders, who mostly ignored the visiting royals

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Speaker 9: the night before. Just to give you an idea, the

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Speaker 9: same theater was so packed for the invite premiere that

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Speaker 9: one hundred ticket holders were turned away. So it's not

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Speaker 9: a good look. But I we do love girl Scouts.

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Speaker 9: We APOLOGI Jasen Megan Mirkle's gotten involved with them. But

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Speaker 9: god love girl Scouts.

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Speaker 2: And I love cookies. So you know, this stuker seems

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Speaker 2: to be have a couple of positives. But before you go,

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Speaker 2: The producers of Broadway show Seeks the Musical have defended

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Speaker 2: their decision to cast transgender influencer Dylan mulvaney as one

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Speaker 2: of the main characters and boilin the second wife of

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Speaker 2: King Henry the Eighth, after copying major backlash from social

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Speaker 2: media Kinsey they even restricted their ex account and condemned

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Speaker 2: bully in all its forms in response to some of

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Speaker 2: the feedback.

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Speaker 9: Look, some of the commentary is fair, and that feedback

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Speaker 9: is the feedback getting under Dylan's skin. Some people are

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Speaker 9: challenging whether Dylan earned their spot for their talent or

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Speaker 9: was given the opportunity based on their infamy. Dylan believes

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Speaker 9: they have the talent. Not my favorite, Anne Boleyn, but

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Speaker 9: I will tell you that if King Henry the Eighth

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Speaker 9: would have caught Ane Berlen with a hot dog down there,

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Speaker 9: she probably would have lost her head a lot sooner.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I think you'd be right right Bekins's Gophil, thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for your time tonight, and that's it

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Speaker 2: for me. Newsnight is up next