WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 15 April 0:00:00.880 --> 0:00:08.799 Late General, Welcome, Late Base, thanks for your company. I'm 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:11.200 James Macpherson with Caleb Bond and filling in for this 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:13.039 store at Danika de Giorgio. 0:00:13.200 --> 0:00:13.960 Coming up tonight. 0:00:14.040 --> 0:00:17.840 Katie Perry returns to Earth from her space odyssey, but 0:00:17.920 --> 0:00:20.720 her head is still very much up in the clouds. 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:22.279 Will show you why a little later. 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:25.560 Plus, when we get to what's making news tomorrow, the 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:28.760 Reserve Bank says another rate cut isn't needed because apparently 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:33.000 mortgage holders are doing just fine. And the Australian newspaper 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:37.559 reporting doctors slamming Anthony Albanese's flagship health policy. All of 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:41.280 that when we look at tomorrow's newspapers. But first, the 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:45.160 SICKI is a great Australian tradition, right, call in sick 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:48.400 on a Friday and give yourself an early mark. Of course, 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:51.680 if you're going to do this, you probably shouldn't post 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:55.520 photos of yourself enjoying a long weekend on social media. 0:00:55.600 --> 0:00:58.920 But that's exactly what a Melbourne solicitor did, and when 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:03.680 he got sacked, he blamed stigma around mental health days. 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:07.479 Commercial lawyer Mitchell Fuller claimed to be sick last year 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:10.959 when he was actually on an interstate footy trip. Enjoying 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:14.559 the AFL's gather around with mates. He told the Fair 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:17.600 Work Commission he was entitled to the SICKI because he 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:20.840 needed a mental health day, and besides, he'd run out 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:25.040 of his ADHD medication. He said, quote, I could barely 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:28.600 hold a conversation, let alone focus on legal drafting. The 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:32.360 existing situation in the office became almost unbearable. I was 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:36.080 burning out on fast forward. I realized I desperately needed 0:01:36.120 --> 0:01:38.960 a circuit breaker with close friends that care about me. 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:41.880 I had plenty of personal leave, and I decided to 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:45.160 take the Friday off. So he went to Adelaide, watched 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:47.920 the AFL, went to the beach, and hung out in 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:51.600 pubs with his mates. When the Commission found he'd lied 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:55.279 to his employer and deserved to be sacked, well, Mitchell 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:59.440 Fuller transformed himself into a mental health advocate. He told 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:03.000 journalists and I quote, as a society at large, we 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:05.280 need to quit sniggering at the idea of mental health 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:10.440 days and start writing them explicitly into workplace laws. Caleb, 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:12.960 you're a big fan of the AFL. Do you agree 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:15.880 with him? Mental health day would be about in order 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:16.160 for you? 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:19.200 Well look, I will say that I would never do 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:22.359 anything like this, and I have never done anything like this. 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:25.120 I have been renowned in all. 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:29.200 Of my workplaces for avoiding sick days at all costs, 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:31.679 which is great because when you finally want to pull 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:35.600 a SICKI no one questions at whatsoever. And I'm so 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:39.399 dedicated to this channel here, scar News and my employment 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:42.720 that I will be working on Good Friday and Anzac 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:44.799 Day this year because you know, I just want to 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:47.360 be here all the time to serve you the viewer. 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:50.840 That being said, the man has a point. 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:51.160 You know. 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:54.960 He wanted to go to Adelaide, the greatest city in 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:57.560 the country, and for that I do not blame him. 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:01.400 The therapeutic qualities of that city I'm sure would help 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:06.080 fix him, and the therapeutic qualities of Ossie rules football. 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:07.480 Cannot be denied either. 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:09.920 I can't think of a better way to get your 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:12.760 head back in shape than to go to Adelaide and 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:15.520 watch eight or nine games of footy in the one 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:18.440 place on one weekend and have a few beers with your. 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:19.080 Mates at the pub. 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:21.239 I'm going down a warning ball in a few weeks 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:24.119 time for the races down there. They call it schoolies 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:26.520 for middle aged men. I don't quite qualify as a 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:28.320 middle aged man, i'd like to think. 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:32.200 But we know what. 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:34.280 I go away for that week. 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:37.320 And I come back feeling fantastic because I've gone and 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:39.960 drunk shed loads of wine and watched some Mortses race 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:42.760 and hung out with some mates, and I feel brilliant 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:45.760 when I so, I can see his argument he should. 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:47.760 Have told his employer that he just said he was 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:49.640 sick and didn't give any specific reason. 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:50.680 Well, I've won a few things. First. 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:53.800 I love how Caleb started off his little preamble thereby, 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:55.600 you know, basically sucking up to. 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:57.080 His employer on his employment. 0:03:57.160 --> 0:04:00.160 The channel here like this, Now, look, who hasn't taken 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:00.640 a sick day? 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:02.080 Come on, if you haven't taken. 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:06.760 A set, I've only ever had legitimate sick days. I've 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:07.720 never thrown a sicky. 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:10.320 You've never thrown a sick Well, I mean, Caleb, you 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:11.480 are a star employee. 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:13.360 Congratulates employee. 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:15.560 You have taken sickis. 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:17.360 I've I've had taken a SICKI before. 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:20.159 Go on, you know what the most recent onnder there, oh. 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:22.320 Like maybe six seven years ago, wasn't anything? 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:22.640 All? 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:23.960 Come? Yeah, mu's come on. 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:25.880 I mean, you know, look, we don't do it all 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:28.200 the time, but yes, I think that the majority of 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:30.559 people out there would say that they have indeed taken 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:31.240 a SICKI. 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:32.679 Here and there, and that's fine. 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:34.560 I don't have a problem with that. But a couple 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:37.839 of things with this story. At firstly, the mental health 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:41.159 excuse really irks me actually from the very very beginning. 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:43.720 I'm not going to go into people's own mental health problems. 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:49.000 However, he wants to put mental health leave into laws 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:52.440 That really bothers me from a business perspective, from an 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:56.600 employer perspective, to then have that clause in somebody's contract 0:04:56.640 --> 0:04:58.839 as well, that they're allowed to take several days off 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:01.000 here and they're willing nearly whenever they feel like it 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:02.239 to take mental health days. 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:03.920 I do actually think it is. 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:06.320 In a police officer's contract that they are allowed to 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:08.479 take mental health days. Fair and that I think is 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:12.160 completely fair enough that I that I understand, but really 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:15.040 that's just more burden on the employer. Now, second thing 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:17.279 I would point out, if you are indeed going to 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:20.920 take a sicky for goodness sake, rule number one, amateur, 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:22.880 this is and this is this is real amateur hour 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:26.480 from this bloke. Okay, do not post it on yes 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:30.560 social media, go into hiding. Go into hiding, pretend like 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:32.680 you're not, pretend that you are indeed sick. 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:34.800 Do not post it on your social media. That is 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:35.359 the problem. 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:37.800 But with this case, the Fair Work Commission actually threw 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:40.200 it out, so you just got to wonder what's going 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:41.080 on really. 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:42.839 With his point, you know he wants this inscribed in law. 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:45.480 We should point out he is a former Green's candidate, 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:49.240 so well figure my point with this, and you know 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:52.440 he wanted a mental health day. Fair enough, AFL, But 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:56.839 I'm a North Melbourne supporter, Caleb Helbn game any. 0:05:56.680 --> 0:05:59.160 Health today to recover from my mental health day. 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:00.320 It's a very fair point. 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:02.840 But but I mean, you know he took two sickies 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:07.880 and the law firm found out four months later when 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:10.960 they looked at his Instagram and then decided to sack him. 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:13.120 I mean, if this is the standard that they're now 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:15.880 going to set up in the Fair Work Commission, that 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:18.520 you can be sacked for bumming two sickis and your 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:21.479 employer finds out four months later, so clearly that you 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:23.560 know that not much had happened in that time. That 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:25.560 caused them to go and try and sack him. Like, 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:28.320 if that's now the standard for getting sacked, there are 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:31.080 a lot of people in this country who are going 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:33.640 to be in serious trouble. I mean, remember when Bob 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:36.720 ll said anyone, any employer who sacked someone for not 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:39.560 turning up to work tomorrow is a bum. Of course, 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:41.800 when we won the America's Cup, I mean, going by 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:44.480 the Fair Work Commission, now it would sound like everyone 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:47.599 can be sacked for chuck and a Sicki's much dangerous. 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:49.080 I think it's too extreme, to be honest. 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:52.320 I can understand if you were an employer you've got. 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:53.520 A staff member who's chuck. 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:55.960 To SICKI has gone on a holiday, gone on a vacation, 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:58.479 gone to the gather around, done something like that. You 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:00.640 might you would definitely think of them as a less 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:01.640 favorable employee. 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:01.960 You would. 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:04.320 They probably would miss out, maybe on key roles in 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:06.880 the company. I understand perhaps I would get less work. 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:10.040 I completely understand that, but I'm not really sure if 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:11.760 it's grounds for dismissalm. 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:12.640 Come on, I don't know. 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:16.120 I think there may have been some. 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:20.080 I just want to know who his footy team isn't 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:22.280 and whether in fact that's why he had the second sicky, 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:25.360 because he might have been in the same position as you, James. 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:27.200 Now you might have seen over the last couple of 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:30.800 days Peter Dutton's son Harry has been with him on 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:34.240 the campaign trail. He popped up yesterday, took questions from 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:36.640 the media, spoke to the media about the fact that 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:39.360 he wants to be able to buy a house for himself, 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:42.360 but it's very expensive to do so he's a little 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:44.040 reminder if you didn't see it yesterday. 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:47.520 I am saving up for a house, and so as 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:50.640 my sister back and a lot of my mates. But 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:55.040 as you've probably heard, it's almost impossible to get in 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:57.840 in the current states. So I mean my saving like mad, 0:07:57.960 --> 0:08:00.560 but it doesn't look like we'll get there in the 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:03.560 near future. But we'd love that to change. 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:07.640 And soon after the lefty journalists and proponents of Albanomics 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:10.960 were saying, well, why doesn't your father just pay for 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:13.440 you to buy a house? As though lefties have now 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:16.560 decided that it's a good thing to use intergenerational wealth 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:18.720 to get into the property market. I thought they would 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:21.080 have been on board with the idea of everyone able 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:24.160 being able to afford things for themselves without having to 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:26.480 lean on the wealth of their parents to do it. 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:29.320 But no, when it comes to Peter dutton son saying 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:30.880 he'd like to be able to do it under his 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:33.840 own steam, Well, why aren't you doing it for him, 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:37.800 mister Dutton. Now I don't quite get the reasoning here, 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:42.720 But Peter Dudden yesterday wouldn't actually answer the question. He 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:46.480 waited until today to say, yes, he would help out 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:50.040 his son. Will you help them if their saving for 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:53.680 a deposit and proving to be a good financial, financially 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:54.560 responsible kids. 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:57.000 And I think our households are no different to many 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:59.840 households where want our kids to work hard to say, 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:02.720 and will help them with a deposit at some stage. 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:05.720 But now he could have just said that yesterday and 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:08.120 put it all to bed. But as far as I'm concerned, 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:11.320 it's a moronic line of questioning because what Datlan is 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:13.720 trying to say here, and what his son Harry is 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:17.160 trying to say, is that he shouldn't matter whether your 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:20.520 parents have any money to decide whether you can get 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:21.840 into the housing market. 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:23.199 Surely we shouldn't be in. 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:26.520 A position where you have to rely on your parents 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:29.199 or your grandparents in order to be able to get 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:30.640 into the housing market. 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:31.600 For a lot of people. 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:34.480 That's not how it used to be, but it is 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:37.280 now for most people the way it is. If you 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:39.320 want to get into the market, you've either got to 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:41.480 rely on mom and dad to dip into the bank 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:44.200 now to help you to secure your loan or to 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:46.400 give you some extra money for a deposit, or you 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:48.079 have to wait for them to drop off the perch 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:51.280 and inherit their home in order to own property. This 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:54.080 is not a great situation, is it. Because of course, 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:57.559 if you believe in conservative politics, you need to understand 0:09:57.600 --> 0:10:00.120 that people have to own something, They need something to 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:03.200 conserve if they're going to continue thinking that way. So 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:06.000 Dutton saying, look, we want people to be able to 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:09.000 buy houses under their own steam, and for some reason 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:11.400 or another, the left doesn't think that's a good thing. 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:14.559 So it's interesting to see how this has played out. 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:17.480 And of course today Harry was back out with mister 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:20.800 Dutton on the campaign trailer. He posted a photo on 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:23.720 x this morning saying how happy and proud he was 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:26.440 to have his son out on the hustings with him. Look, 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:28.320 it may have blown up a little bit in his 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:31.440 face yesterday. I wonder why it's taken this long to 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:33.079 get the family out there. 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:33.959 I know they were on. 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:36.880 The sixty minutes interview that they did with Karl Stefanovic, 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:39.840 but do you know what, Harry seems like an intelligent, 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:44.000 upstanding young fella who was trying to make a legitimate 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:46.040 argument about how he wants to be able to buy 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:48.280 a home on his own without having to rely on 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:50.760 his dad to bankroll him. Why do they get a 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:52.160 bit more of this out there. 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:54.400 The coalition and that they could give anything a go 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:55.240 at this point. 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:55.520 I agree. 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:57.440 I think that Harry is a secret weapon that the 0:10:57.480 --> 0:10:59.679 Liberals should have rolled out from the very beginning of 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:02.959 this campaign, because don't forget, Harry is twenty years old. 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:06.439 He actually represents a cohort that the Liberals are desperately 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:09.600 trying to target through these housing policies, through this first 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:12.120 home biased scheme that they have announced as well, because 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:13.920 they need to win over that cohort because we know 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:15.920 that a lot of young voters, a lot of millennials 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:18.760 for example, a lot of gen Z, they're actually turning 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:20.800 to the minor parties and that's where the Greens could 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:24.960 potentially pick up a lot of seats from these younger voters. 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:29.760 But you know, Harry, I guess represents as well Peter 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:32.959 Dutton's family life. And Peter Dutton has been painted, as 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:36.440 we know, as this hard man, this you know, tough, tough, strong, 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:40.000 strong politician. Well when we see this softer side, people 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:41.200 actually warmed. 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:42.760 To him and warm to his family. 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:45.200 And I know when Peter Kredlin did that sit down 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:48.920 podcast interview you remember with Peter Dutton, he actually spoke 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:50.679 a lot there about his family. 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:51.720 And it's a side we didn't. 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:54.400 See, whereas Alvo he's always trotting out lines about Jodi 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:57.600 when when they're going to get married and Toto the dog. 0:11:57.679 --> 0:11:59.720 For goodness sake, don't forget his mum who brought him 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:01.800 up in housing and please. 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:03.760 We can't forget about the social housing comments, and don't. 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:05.760 Forget his son who got conscious lounge to access, and 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:06.960 we can't forget that. 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:10.000 Family point, that family point as well. 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:13.320 But I just thought that the media question though about 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:16.080 whether or not Peter Dutton would help his son out 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:19.840 was absolutely appalling, because what parents, if they had the 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:23.680 means to do so, wouldn't actually want to help out 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:25.600 their children get into the market. 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:27.520 But this is the funny side of it, right, So 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:30.600 so you say Harry is there to emphasize Peter Dutton's 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:33.360 softer side, but it took him fully a day and 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:35.160 a bit to decide whether or not he'd help his 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:35.680 son out. 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:39.120 No, I agree should the very beginning. 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:40.880 But I just think it was a stupid question to 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:43.120 begin with, because what parent out there if you had 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:44.040 the means to do so. 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:44.960 You've got two sons. 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:47.040 You've got two sons, James, if you had the means 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:48.760 to do so to help your kids get into the 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:51.439 into the market, you would do exactly after I pay 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:55.800 to go together out and after you've taken a sicky 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:57.720 as well at the same time. But the point is, 0:12:57.760 --> 0:12:59.600 it's like this gotcha moment, We've got him. 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:03.920 I wrote with this, But stupid than the question was 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:07.400 whoever's advising Peter Dutton they should prepare for these things. 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:10.719 That they allowed that to become the issue rather than 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:12.320 the difficulty for young people. 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:13.560 Getting into the housing market. 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:17.840 That's a damnation on the Liberal Party policy advisors, not 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:20.880 on the media. What's interesting to me is whether they 0:13:20.960 --> 0:13:24.480 brought Harry into this discussion, as you say, to connect 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:27.520 with younger people regarding this very important issue of housing, 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:30.000 or whether it was not really about housing at all, 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:32.840 it was about as you've also alluded to, trying to 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:36.199 soften Peter Dutton's image in that sixty Minutes interview back 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:39.760 in February, I think it was Dutton's wife, Curly said 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:43.080 that her husband had been traditionally given tougher jobs in 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:46.800 politics and that had created a certain persona which was 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:49.360 not conducive to winning over voters. 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:51.600 But she said, I hope you can see him. 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:55.760 As another person if he does become the next Prime minister. Well, 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:58.199 I would argue people have got to see him as 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:01.880 another person, not when he becomes Prime minister, but before 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:03.840 the election in order for him to ever have a 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:07.440 chance of becoming Prime minister. Hence Harry appeared talking about 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:10.280 housing the last day or two. Now he's back on 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:13.400 the hustings again, not about housing, but just with his dad. 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:16.240 But again, it's all just too late. 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:19.160 I just feel like everything in this coalition campaign has 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:22.440 come too late. Policies have come out too late, They've 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:25.200 trodded out the family too late, and then when things 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:28.160 don't go quite as they should, they just sing to them. 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:31.280 Jumper price saying make Australia great again, or yesterday when 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:33.280 they're trying to carry on a doubt and about how 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:35.520 he should help out his son, they wait too long 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:38.520 to respond to that. They don't seem to have anticipated it, 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:42.680 like they just seem so far on the back foot. 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:44.400 They definitely are on the back foot. But I think 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:46.680 that they're hoping because it is actually proven that young 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:50.000 people do vote for the Coalition, but they're more likely 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:51.920 to be swayed by the party that they believe is 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:53.120 going to help set them up for the future. 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:54.760 And this is where the Coalition I think has been 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:57.000 a bit slow. And of course one of those parties 0:14:57.440 --> 0:14:59.840 is the Greens and Boyo boy. 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:03.400 But once again the Greens have proven to us that 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:07.240 they are the most UnAustralian party in our history because 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:10.440 their latest target amid every other day or every other 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:13.640 issue they try to socially hijacked, well, they are now 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:17.160 targeting Anzac Day. You heard that, correct, one of the 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:20.240 most important days on our calendar, because they want to 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:24.040 host what they're calling a party party. 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:26.040 A rave. It sounds like a rave to me. Here 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:26.320 it is. 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:29.760 Here is the flyer the Greens party party. Now this 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:32.880 is from the WA branch of the Greens. It was 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:35.640 promoted as a ticketed fundraiser to help boast of their 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:39.320 bolts of their fundraising efforts to campaign for candidates over 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:40.960 in the West. It was set to be a five 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:43.960 hour event with a DJ, tickets ranging from thirty dollars 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:44.880 to one thousand. 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:47.360 But here is what the invite read. I'm going to 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:47.720 read it off. 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:49.720 It says, the federal election is right around the corner. 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:51.760 Join us for a night when the dance floor becomes 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:55.480 a platform for radical change. Your moves matter on the 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:57.640 floor and on the polls. 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:03.120 How is that? Now? Look couple of issues dancing? Oh okay, 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:05.680 well your mind went there. I didn't it did, kayla. 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:08.920 But look a couple of issues of course at play here. Firstly, 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:12.360 Anzac Day is obviously a day that we as a 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:16.400 nation pause to reflect and remember those who not only 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:20.480 fought for us and did so so bravely, but also continue. 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:20.640 To do so. 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:22.720 And it's not just a day that we fob off 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:26.000 as just your average public holiday. And yet what bothers 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:28.680 me about this is that the Green sort to take 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:31.360 advantage of this, take advantage of our freedoms that we 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:34.120 are so grateful for thanks to everybody who has fought 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:36.920 for us and continue to do so. To throw a 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:40.920 campaign fundraiser, now, obviously I'm aware that pubs are packed 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:44.560 on Anzac Day with two up people enjoy the public holiday. 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:46.680 I'm not saying that. I'm not saying you can't have 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:49.760 a party. I'm not saying you can't enjoy yourselves. But 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:52.920 the point is a campaign fundraiser on a day like 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:54.600 Anzac Day is an absolute disgrace. 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:55.200 Exactly. 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:57.120 That was the issue. No one's saying you can't have 0:16:57.200 --> 0:16:59.440 fun on Anzac Day. We should enjoy the freedoms that 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:03.640 our souls sacrifice themselves for. The point is this is 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:08.280 political and it's generally agreed we don't politicize. 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:08.920 Anzac Day in any way. 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:12.680 Campaign will stop on the twenty fifth as our politicians 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:14.720 give honor to our serviceman. 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:16.560 Here's Peter Dutton making just that point. 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:20.440 I think it's completely inappropriate and I think it reflects 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:23.119 the poor values that the Greens stand for. And I 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:25.960 just say to every young Australian who's proud of their 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:29.320 grandfather who fought in the war, proud of a cousin 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:32.879 who's serving in the Australian Defense Force. Now understand that 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:36.200 the Greens have complete contempt for our Defense Force personnel. 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:38.600 The Greens, of course would be the partners in government 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:43.520 with Anthony Albanezi, and mister Albanezi should condemn these actions. 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:46.119 This is typical of the Greens. 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:50.000 They talk about the importance of empathy and love and 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:54.560 tolerance and inclusion and then fail to understand Anzac Days 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:56.680 a day that should be reserved for honoring those who 0:17:56.680 --> 0:17:59.399 have sacrificed their lives. But I think in order to 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:02.040 be a Green, the prerequisite is that you don't think. 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:04.920 For instance, you know, billionaires will pay for everything until 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:08.320