WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 30 June

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<v Speaker 1>The Skying Center. This is Paul Murray Live.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello mate, wherever you're happy to be. Thank you so

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<v Speaker 2>much for watching us this Monday night. Thank you to

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<v Speaker 2>everyone who joined us in Newcastle. We had a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of fun. You saw it on the Telecontinue your offer, it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was as well.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to be in Mount Gambia for our next

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<v Speaker 2>our town and wherever you happen to be tonight, you

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<v Speaker 2>are right where you need to be because I've got

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<v Speaker 2>one heck of a show for you, including what a

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<v Speaker 2>surprise that old mate Albow.

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<v Speaker 1>Is a little different with the Chinese than he is

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<v Speaker 1>with the Americans. There's a reason for that. We'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to it in a second.

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<v Speaker 2>Two blokes that agree on nothing but for your viewing pleasure,

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<v Speaker 2>they get to fight on TV.

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<v Speaker 1>Nicholas Reese is the Lord Mirror of Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 2>Mattcanavan, the free thinker from Queensland, and big news around

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<v Speaker 2>ac DC. They're coming to Australia and Australia is loving

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<v Speaker 2>the chance to be able to see the legendary rock band.

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<v Speaker 2>But first breaking news. It's winter and in winter it's cold,

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<v Speaker 2>and it doesn't matter if you've currently got your toe

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<v Speaker 2>just sticking out of a blanket in broad beach or weather.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, you're in the middle of country New South

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<v Speaker 2>Wales and a place like bag you are noticing, surprise, surprise.

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<v Speaker 2>These months are always cold because it is winter. But but, but,

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<v Speaker 2>my friends, there is a big little weather event, big

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<v Speaker 2>little big weather event which is going to be taking

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<v Speaker 2>place in the next few days and the media is

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<v Speaker 2>loving what this one is cold. Now, remember it's winter,

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<v Speaker 2>it's cold.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not great.

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<v Speaker 2>But get ready for a bomb cyclone whatever that.

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<v Speaker 3>Is sounding the alarm over a dangerous weather system being

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<v Speaker 3>called a bomb cyclone.

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<v Speaker 4>A bomb cyclone is said to hit parts of New

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<v Speaker 4>South Wales.

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<v Speaker 1>This has been labeled a bomb cyclone.

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<v Speaker 4>We're being worn tonight of a dangerous weather system called

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<v Speaker 4>a bomb cyclone.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the official terminology, not that the mediaHo has

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<v Speaker 2>made up, but the one.

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<v Speaker 1>Used by the bureau, which is why you are.

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<v Speaker 2>Hearing it here on sky News, both in our news

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<v Speaker 2>on the website and of course on Sky News Weather.

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<v Speaker 1>This thing looks like it is going to have.

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<v Speaker 2>An awful lot of wind in the next couple of days,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of rain in the next few days. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously a little further north, a little further south than

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<v Speaker 2>where it is hitting is going to be slightly affected.

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<v Speaker 2>But essentially the news of world's coast between they're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about Cough's Harbor in the north all the way down

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<v Speaker 2>to the south coast is where the problems are going

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<v Speaker 2>to be. Full coverage on our weather channel tomorrow from midday.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're living it, you know what it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be like. If you happy to be anywhere else in

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<v Speaker 2>the country, make sure you're checking it out from midday tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>The preparations are serious and again I'm happy for people

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<v Speaker 2>to be over warned and things don't turn up as

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<v Speaker 2>bad as they seem, rather than people being unprepared.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is the stuff the sees is saying tonight.

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<v Speaker 5>As we always say, it's really critical that you clean

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<v Speaker 5>your gutters, that you move items that are loose that

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<v Speaker 5>can be blown around, such as trampolines and outdoor furniture,

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<v Speaker 5>tie them down or move them to secure location. Can

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<v Speaker 5>you also please move any vehicles that you have away

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<v Speaker 5>from any large trees.

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<v Speaker 2>Alison Osborne is one of the great brains behind these

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<v Speaker 2>Sky News weather offering, which you can see twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>to seven on Foxdelle on Flash and through the sky

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<v Speaker 2>of the areas where you would normally watch it, particularly

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<v Speaker 2>on things like free to wear in regional Australia. So

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<v Speaker 2>subscribe now to sky news dot com dot au. Allison

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<v Speaker 2>recorded this for us just a couple of minutes ago

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<v Speaker 2>about what to expect in the next few days.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks Paul.

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<v Speaker 4>We are watching for the potential of a very dangerous

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<v Speaker 4>weather event over the New South Wales coast on Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 4>and this is due to an East Coast low Now,

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<v Speaker 4>the low pressure system itself just formed off the Northern

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<v Speaker 4>Rivers shortly afternoon and we can see a corresponding darkening

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<v Speaker 4>of the radar echoes there, so some heavier rain throughout

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<v Speaker 4>the day light of falls pulling southwards towards the Sydney

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<v Speaker 4>area by nightfall. Now this system is being termed a

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<v Speaker 4>bomb cycloe because of its potential to rapidly intensify during

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<v Speaker 4>the day tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 6>It's not a made up term.

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<v Speaker 4>It's when a mid latitude low rapidly strengthens. The center

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<v Speaker 4>pressure drops by more than twenty four hector pascals in

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<v Speaker 4>twenty four hours, and this results in widespread at dangerous weather. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>the four cars shows adjust that the system pulls southwards

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<v Speaker 4>and intensifies. This phenomenon is also called explosive cyclogenesis, bomber

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<v Speaker 4>genesis or bombing, so it is quite a dangerous weather event.

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<v Speaker 6>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>In response to that.

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<v Speaker 4>Center pressure dropping, the winds rushing in a clockwise direction

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<v Speaker 4>to fill this void, and this is leading to intense

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<v Speaker 4>rainfall rates. They're likely to ramp up over the mid

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<v Speaker 4>North Coast tonight pull over the Hunter by the morning.

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<v Speaker 4>For Sydney siders and those who live in the Illawarra,

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<v Speaker 4>you're likely to feel that heavy rain ramp up during

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<v Speaker 4>the afternoon and evening now damage you. Winds are a

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<v Speaker 4>key threat here. They're likely to intensify as the system

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<v Speaker 4>itself strengthens. We can see that very strong wind pushing

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<v Speaker 4>in over the Hunter during the morning, then likely intensify

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<v Speaker 4>over Sydney and surrounding areas of the New South Wales

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<v Speaker 4>coast during Tuesday night and then throughout Wednesday. Winds are

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<v Speaker 4>likely to be strong enough to bring down tree branches

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<v Speaker 4>cause property damage and make for very dangerous driving conditions

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<v Speaker 4>as well as triggering power outages.

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<v Speaker 6>And it's for this entire coastal.

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<v Speaker 4>Fringe south of about Coffs Harbor, but it also includes

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<v Speaker 4>the New South Wales Northern Ranges and into southern Queensland.

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<v Speaker 4>Now coastal hazard warnings are also in place warning of

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<v Speaker 4>waves likely to cause coastal erosion. We can see it

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<v Speaker 4>seas and swells likely to top four to five meters over

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<v Speaker 4>that coastal fringe over the course of Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 6>Night and into Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 4>Now the system is likely to then pull southwards during

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<v Speaker 4>Tuesday night, dragging the heavy rain with it, pulling at

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<v Speaker 4>southwards all the way through to Victoria's Gippsland region. Looking

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<v Speaker 4>at four chat our rainfall totals in these areas likely

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<v Speaker 4>to exceed one hundred millimeters, including through Sydney. Heaviest area

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<v Speaker 4>is likely to be the Ilaora, reaching two hundred milimeters.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll have the latest on the details with this system

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<v Speaker 4>on skine is whether channel six so one throughout the

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<v Speaker 4>day on Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 2>Good one, Allison, thank you very much. Yes, so part

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<v Speaker 2>of this and we all knew this right that if

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<v Speaker 2>it goes down by twenty four Hector pascals within twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four hours, then that's the beginning of what is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be this bomb site clone.

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<v Speaker 1>Again.

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<v Speaker 2>Make sure that you keep your homepage as sky On

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<v Speaker 2>News dot com dot au if you can get out

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<v Speaker 2>there earlier in the day, settle things up, make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that you again have as many things in.

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<v Speaker 1>Safety as possible. Strap down if needed.

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<v Speaker 2>Why because you don't want to be dealing with the

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<v Speaker 2>consequences again. Our thoughts with people in areas like Tare,

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<v Speaker 2>which you've been thumped about before, places like Liz Moore,

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<v Speaker 2>which you've heard this too many times. They thankfully made

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<v Speaker 2>it through the tropical extropical cyclone Alfred. May they do

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<v Speaker 2>so again with what is going to be happening in

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<v Speaker 2>the next couple of days.

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<v Speaker 1>Either way, will be all the way across it the

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<v Speaker 1>next couple of days.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you know how excited I was when the President

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<v Speaker 2>of the United States decided to take global diplomacy right

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<v Speaker 2>into the shallow end and started dropping f bombs. And

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<v Speaker 2>I personally as a intergalactic swearer, and I know some

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<v Speaker 2>people don't like it, but still as an intergalactic swearer,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't mind that the leader of the free world

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<v Speaker 2>was throwing around some swearing last week.

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<v Speaker 7>We basically have two countries that have been fighting so

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<v Speaker 7>long and so hard that they.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't know what the fuck they're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, who knew that the first Australian politician, the first

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<v Speaker 2>cab off the rank to join the ranks of the

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<v Speaker 2>Trump sweary people, is the OsO woke Premier and dear

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<v Speaker 2>leader of Victoria just into Alan.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. She decided to throw around a.

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<v Speaker 2>Little bit of swear today because, as you know, when

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<v Speaker 2>the Labor.

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<v Speaker 1>Party thought that they were going to go very.

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<v Speaker 2>Close to losing the federal election, they thought one of

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<v Speaker 2>the ways that would happen would because Victoria was going

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<v Speaker 2>to whack them about pretty hard. Didn't end up happening,

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<v Speaker 2>But that didn't mean that they didn't get a special

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<v Speaker 2>boost to their GST fundings where the state randomly, out

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<v Speaker 2>of nowhere, without seemingly asking for it, ended up with

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<v Speaker 2>billions of dollars extra why because they wanted to pad

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<v Speaker 2>up for the federal election. Now, of course there's only

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<v Speaker 2>so much money in the GST pool. So where did

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<v Speaker 2>it come from? Well, places like Queensland, where they talk

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<v Speaker 2>about two and a half billion dollars out and why

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<v Speaker 2>because their assumption was that this would all be it

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<v Speaker 2>up in an LNP territory, even though it ended up

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<v Speaker 2>being quite good for the Labor Party. They just thought, I,

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<v Speaker 2>oh'll move money from Queensland. Who cares, that's a liberal government.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's prop up our mates in the Labor Party. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>in response, the Queensland Treasurer has pretty easily called it out.

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<v Speaker 2>When you have had two and a half billion dollars

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<v Speaker 2>taken away from what you can spend in in Queensland

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<v Speaker 2>to be spent in Victoria, you say things like this.

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<v Speaker 8>I think any fair minded person would look at the

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<v Speaker 8>numbers and see the growth in GST and other jurisdictions

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<v Speaker 8>over the last decade and see that Queensland has fallen behind.

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<v Speaker 8>We have been panealized because of our investment in those

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<v Speaker 8>industries like gas that other jurisdictions will not invest in.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't think we should be penalized for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, so how did justinter Allen? Who could be wokier

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<v Speaker 2>than woke. She'd be just as happy in the Greens

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<v Speaker 2>as she is in the left wing of the Labor Party,

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<v Speaker 2>all the same thing in a place like Victoria.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, she decided to go full Trump in response.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me put it in language and in a way

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<v Speaker 4>that the Queensland Treasurer can understand.

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<v Speaker 6>It's just pulled right.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh goodness for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Now again, I don't mind this every now and then.

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<v Speaker 2>But do you like the patronizing tone you could see

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<v Speaker 2>while I was rolling through in her head? Was she

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<v Speaker 2>going to say Queenslanders because you know, Queenslanders aren't the

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<v Speaker 2>same as Victorians.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. We're quickly changes to the Queensland.

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<v Speaker 2>Treasurer because of course he's and war on because he's

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<v Speaker 2>not from the same political party as the Labor Party.

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<v Speaker 2>But I suggest that, unlike Donald Trump, who seemingly decided

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<v Speaker 2>to swear because he was genuinely that frustrated with the

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<v Speaker 2>situation that he was trying to deal with, this little

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<v Speaker 2>be bomb is a distraction from other stories you see

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<v Speaker 2>today in Victoria. We learned by the Australian Financial Review

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<v Speaker 2>that Victoria's debt is amongst the worst in the world

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<v Speaker 2>when you start to compare the size of the economy, populations,

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<v Speaker 2>all the rest of it. And then, of course there

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<v Speaker 2>was the screaming from the Herald Sun today, And I

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<v Speaker 2>say screaming because it's.

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<v Speaker 1>A big story. Victoria is going to get their own

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<v Speaker 1>version of the Voice.

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<v Speaker 2>Despite the fact that the good people of Victoria, when

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<v Speaker 2>given a chance to introduce a voice into the federal Constitution,

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<v Speaker 2>voted against it. Even woke Victoria fifty four to forty

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<v Speaker 2>five said no, But they're going ahead and they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to do it anyway. Why because you know they know

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<v Speaker 2>better than the people of Victoria. So given that there

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<v Speaker 2>was this analysis that they're debt is some of the

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<v Speaker 2>worst in the world, or the government is going to

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<v Speaker 2>do exactly the opposite of what the people voted for

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<v Speaker 2>in a referendum.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you reckon? Was the lead story tonight in Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 9>The Premier has angrily dismissed claims Victoria is being financially

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<v Speaker 9>propped up by other states.

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<v Speaker 10>Queensland has gone on the attack, arguing it's fed up

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<v Speaker 10>with being penalized for poor decisions made down south.

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<v Speaker 2>Seriously, now, I always, as a great observer of news

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<v Speaker 2>universe is a kid desperately wanting to be involved in

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<v Speaker 2>it one day and being a young bloke, and now

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<v Speaker 2>what I am being able to have seen this and

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<v Speaker 2>seen this sausage made over so many years I don't

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<v Speaker 2>understand why that many people have put these things together.

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<v Speaker 2>Think that people are so stupid. Clearly, clearly, the bigger

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<v Speaker 2>issue in Victoria is how long the debt is going

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<v Speaker 2>to have to be paid off.

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<v Speaker 1>Clearly clearly the.

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<v Speaker 2>Bigger issue in terms of a government going exactly the

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<v Speaker 2>opposite of the way the people vote, is an issue

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<v Speaker 2>in and around democracy. Oh no, no, no state versus state.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really easy for everyone to understand. So perhaps when

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<v Speaker 2>the Premiere was dumbing things down for the Treasurer of Queensland,

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<v Speaker 2>perhaps she was doing so for the media who would

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<v Speaker 2>otherwise have to report on those really boring issues like

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<v Speaker 2>the debt or the state government doing exactly the opposite

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<v Speaker 2>of what the people wanted. Which brings us to what

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<v Speaker 2>feel like moments in Australian society that it doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 2>how many people like or dislike something, in this case

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<v Speaker 2>dislike something, the machine just rolls on anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, how.

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<v Speaker 2>Many poles, how many years, how many governments have told

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<v Speaker 2>us the same thing. Australians believe too many people are

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<v Speaker 2>coming into the country.

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<v Speaker 11>Not because they dislike the people who are coming into

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<v Speaker 11>the country or the countries from which they are coming.

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<v Speaker 11>But because if you've got a rental queue that goes

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<v Speaker 11>around the block, adding a few hundred thousand people to

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<v Speaker 11>the rental queue is going to make it harder for

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<v Speaker 11>somebody to find a place to rent. Adding more people

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<v Speaker 11>to the auction is going to make it harder for

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<v Speaker 11>your kids and your grandkids to be able to buy

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<v Speaker 11>a house. But still Big Australia keeps marching on. Of course,

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<v Speaker 11>tax Australians well and truly believe they are paying too

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<v Speaker 11>much tax. And when you have a look, as we

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<v Speaker 11>told you last night, now a million.

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<v Speaker 1>A million public servants.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we're not talking about nurses and teachers here, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>talking about a million public servants. Do you feel fantastic

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<v Speaker 2>that what it's going to be about Wednesday lunchtime is

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<v Speaker 2>when you start working for yourself as opposed to working

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<v Speaker 2>for the government. Well, another example seems to be welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to country. Now, I honestly believe most people don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a problem with welcome to country at significant events, in

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<v Speaker 2>the same way that we don't sing the national anthem

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<v Speaker 2>every time you're on a zoom call, in the same

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<v Speaker 2>way that, again we don't thank the troops for their

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<v Speaker 2>service at the start of every football game.

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<v Speaker 1>People seem to believe that.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a time and a place a should it

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<v Speaker 2>exist at all or should it be in everything position?

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<v Speaker 2>But again it doesn't matter how many polls keep coming.

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<v Speaker 2>You know you have to very polite every single time.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you don't, if you do not, as I say,

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<v Speaker 2>often kiss the ring and not just kiss it, you

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<v Speaker 2>must kiss it lovingly, then you are of course going

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<v Speaker 2>to lose some social credit, which of course is the

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<v Speaker 2>way the Chinese run their system, but you don't talk

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<v Speaker 2>about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Australians.

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<v Speaker 2>According to a new Polsekynese dot com dot au pushback

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<v Speaker 2>on welcome to Country ceremonies a pole from the Institute

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<v Speaker 2>of Public Affairs and this one is interesting to read

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<v Speaker 2>and see here whereas you can see, fifty six percent

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<v Speaker 2>of people say that Welcome to Country has now become divisive.

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<v Speaker 2>Forty nine percent of people say that work country should

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<v Speaker 2>not be performed at sporting events at all, and Welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to Country should not be performed on ends day. Forty

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<v Speaker 2>six percent of people say yes to that proposition that

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<v Speaker 2>it shouldn't be.

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<v Speaker 1>They're twenty thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Four percent a year it should be and twenty percent

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<v Speaker 2>still make up their mind. But isn't it interesting, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when there's an opinion poll that says we should legalize

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<v Speaker 2>the more drug right, that's always used as a reason

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<v Speaker 2>why we have to do something. Or of course if

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<v Speaker 2>they like something, they turn around and say, well, this

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<v Speaker 2>country's doing it, so why don't we Yet for some reason,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't matter how many times you're asked, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>matter how many people have their opinion. You will love it,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you don't love it, you're a bad person.

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<v Speaker 2>And a bad person is even worse than being a

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<v Speaker 2>bad Australian, because being an Australian, well that's already bad

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<v Speaker 2>to begin.

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<v Speaker 1>With, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>According to some of these people, which brings me to this,

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<v Speaker 2>it's talk about the Prime Minister and his loving of

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<v Speaker 2>certain world leaders if they're willing to talk to him. Remember,

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<v Speaker 2>he was part of the B team, the reserve team,

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<v Speaker 2>the bench of global leaders at the G seven day,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, every country outside of the seven and allowed

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<v Speaker 2>to even dine with the Seven that of course included,

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<v Speaker 2>among others, the United States, And there was great fanfare

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<v Speaker 2>and great hope that Albi would end.

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<v Speaker 1>Up finally having his meeting, finally having his.

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<v Speaker 2>Meeting with Donald Trump, because of course he's done four

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<v Speaker 2>fifths bugger all to actually physically sit face to face

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<v Speaker 2>with him from the day he won the election in

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<v Speaker 2>November to January when he gets sworn in, and we

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<v Speaker 2>are now on our way towards July and no face

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<v Speaker 2>to face. Well, apparently the next time that might be

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<v Speaker 2>an opportunity. Four a meeting with the President of the

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<v Speaker 2>United States may well end up being a quad meeting. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>this is going to be really full on if we

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<v Speaker 2>can't get some FaceTime because there's only four countries involved

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<v Speaker 2>in the cord and if we can't get face to

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<v Speaker 2>face in a four way meeting, then.

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<v Speaker 1>We're in a world of trouble. So most likely, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's where it's going to be.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just want everyone to remember here, while the

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<v Speaker 2>majority of Australians don't like Donald Trump, the Australian Prime

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<v Speaker 2>Minister has not met face to face with the new

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<v Speaker 2>Prime minister November, December, January, February, March, April, May, June,

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<v Speaker 2>and we keep going past July. When asked about it,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, the greatest Prime minister of all time, well

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't care why, because it's good for him politically to

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<v Speaker 2>have problems with Donald Trump, despite the fact that when

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<v Speaker 2>give a choice between America leading the world or China

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<v Speaker 2>leading the world, all good and decent human beings know

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<v Speaker 2>America should be at the head of the table, not China. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, it is your preference to have a face

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<v Speaker 2>to face Oval office meeting with the President rather than

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<v Speaker 2>waiting for the quad for instance.

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<v Speaker 12>I think where the meeting takes place is less important

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<v Speaker 12>than what comes out of the meeting.

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<v Speaker 1>Frankly, and I know there is a.

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<v Speaker 12>Focus on this laser like focus on this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, laser like, Oh, laser like, this is a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>bad laser. We have not been able to hit the target.

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<v Speaker 2>Now again, we know the Australian media is obsessed with

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<v Speaker 2>this meeting because they want it to fail, because they

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<v Speaker 2>want to judge the body language of Orange Man bad,

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<v Speaker 2>because they want our prime minister to be like other

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<v Speaker 2>prime ministers who seemingly have benefited from being on the

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<v Speaker 2>opposite side of issues when it comes to Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>On all of this, We'll have a chat to Laura

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<v Speaker 2>Jays in the United States in a moment or two's

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<v Speaker 2>time about this before we get into our debate tonight

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<v Speaker 2>between Nicholas Reese and with Mcanavan. But the reason this

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<v Speaker 2>meeting has to take place is because, yes, it was

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<v Speaker 2>America's decision to introduce a ten percent global tariff on

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<v Speaker 2>every country, including Australia that will affect things like our

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<v Speaker 2>steel and the importation of our steel to the United States. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>ABC News America is saying there was a ninety day

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<v Speaker 2>pause and there probably won't be another ninety day pause,

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<v Speaker 2>meaning the tariffs could kick in as early as.

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<v Speaker 1>Ten days time from now.

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<v Speaker 2>So thirty days have June, April and November right then

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<v Speaker 2>July July, ten days from now. When will Australia get

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<v Speaker 2>face to face with the President of the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, certainly not in the next ten days, but don't

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<v Speaker 1>worry about it. Meantime.

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<v Speaker 2>Amazingly, amazingly, the Chinese have had a little bit to say.

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<v Speaker 2>And remember that Anthony Aberneze has been very open about

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<v Speaker 2>no country gets to tell us what to do, unless,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, China.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't say that, don't say that. Well, the Chinese ambassador

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<v Speaker 1>wrote an opinion piece in the Australian newspaper today and

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<v Speaker 1>this just gaslighting, gaslighting.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember this is the bloke who had twelve different conditions

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<v Speaker 2>for Australia. Australia with the bad guys because we wanted

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<v Speaker 2>some answers about a global pandemic. But then, of course

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<v Speaker 2>everything's great with Elbow, because of course he doesn't rock

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<v Speaker 2>the boat, never says anything bad about the Chinese in exchange.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeez.

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<v Speaker 2>Magically, people that have never voted labor in their life

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<v Speaker 2>have voted labor in the past two elections. Now I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to see here shush by playing up international and

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<v Speaker 2>region tensions and slandering China's normal military build up. They

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<v Speaker 2>are making fake islands. They are going around Australia, circumnavigating

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<v Speaker 2>with naval ships. They are doing live fire exercises between

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<v Speaker 2>here and New Zealand. I don't know, but it's us

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<v Speaker 2>making it up. These countries are merely seeking nothing but

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<v Speaker 2>excuses to drastically grow their military spending. He's talking about

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<v Speaker 2>America and NATO, even arbitrarily reaching beyond its geographical scope

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<v Speaker 2>and mandate.

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<v Speaker 1>NATO countries already.

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<v Speaker 2>Accounts for fifty five percent of the world's total military

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<v Speaker 2>spending in twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>So what.

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<v Speaker 3>So what?

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<v Speaker 2>It's not just about the military threat, what about the

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<v Speaker 2>intelligence threat? What about the fact that China has that

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<v Speaker 2>International Space station that is not connected to the International

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<v Speaker 2>Space Station. Okay, I know there's a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>making a lot of money out of a relationship business

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<v Speaker 2>relationships between Australia and China. I know that the government

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<v Speaker 2>wants a better relationship with China because it helps them electorally.

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<v Speaker 1>Here, but I'm sorry if there is a.

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<v Speaker 2>Choice between getting closer to America or closer to China.

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<v Speaker 2>While it may be financially difficult for some, we must

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<v Speaker 2>remain closer to the United States, regardless of whether it's

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<v Speaker 2>dope be Joe Biden or Orange Man bad that is

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<v Speaker 2>the president of the United States. Can I continue here again?

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<v Speaker 2>This in the Australian newspaper today. Behind the so called

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<v Speaker 2>China threat lies a certain countries desire to maintain their

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<v Speaker 2>Hedgeimney again code. The US should not be the leader

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<v Speaker 2>of the world. It should be them.

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<v Speaker 1>They are trapped in their own inertia. Fair, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>reading the rest of it. It's crap.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's see how the Prime Minister responds here. Remember

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<v Speaker 2>how many times he said this when the Americans were

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<v Speaker 2>telling us about our defense spending.

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<v Speaker 12>My job is to look after Australia's national interest that

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<v Speaker 12>includes our defense and security interests. And that's precisely what

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<v Speaker 12>we are doing.

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<v Speaker 13>Approach here and is very clear, which is we will

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<v Speaker 13>ensure that Australia has the capability that we need. Australia

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<v Speaker 13>should decide what we spend on Australia's defense, simple as that.

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<v Speaker 1>So how did the handsome boy do today? What did

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<v Speaker 1>the hands The Chinese ambassador speaks for China.

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<v Speaker 12>My job is to speak for Australia and it's in

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<v Speaker 12>Australia's national interest for us to invest in our capability

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<v Speaker 12>and to invest in our relationships.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're doing just that.

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<v Speaker 2>Pass pass but only just. But again, priorities, the priorities

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<v Speaker 2>of this Prime Minister when he came to office was

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<v Speaker 2>to sort things out with China as fast as possible.

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<v Speaker 2>Why because there was the economic consequences that came back, heinks,

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<v Speaker 2>why there was a whole series of meetings and eventually

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<v Speaker 2>the face to face no such urgency that we can

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<v Speaker 2>publicly see about trying to get to meet with Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump now again when I hope they get together, and

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<v Speaker 2>I hope they get together, I hope the meeting goes well.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope everyone's happy, and I hope that the government

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<v Speaker 2>gets the best result for Australia. I am not cheering

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<v Speaker 2>against Australia in this scenario. I'm just say I'm good

0:23:10.800 --> 0:23:13.639
<v Speaker 2>A Blowers walking both sides of the street. This is

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<v Speaker 2>each way albow either at his diplomatic finness or more

0:23:18.040 --> 0:23:23.120
<v Speaker 2>likely knowing that the financial eggs are in one basket,

0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:24.600
<v Speaker 2>the security eggs are in another.

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<v Speaker 1>And anyone who knows.

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<v Speaker 2>When you've got both sides of a barbei offence, it

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<v Speaker 2>eventually hurts. Now a couple of other things worth talking

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<v Speaker 2>about here before we talk to our dear friend Laura

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<v Speaker 2>Jays in the United States about that and a whole

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<v Speaker 2>lot more in a moment. Are you somebody who is

0:23:43.160 --> 0:23:46.480
<v Speaker 2>starting to use your mobile phone for health advice? Please don't,

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<v Speaker 2>please don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I know for a generation we've had doctor Google where

0:23:50.440 --> 0:23:54.280
<v Speaker 2>people are double checking my symptoms are this, and surprise, surprise,

0:23:54.320 --> 0:23:56.320
<v Speaker 2>that always comes back You've got about two weeks to live.

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<v Speaker 2>But there are people that are using AI now to

0:24:00.720 --> 0:24:02.680
<v Speaker 2>basically type in a whole bunch of symptoms to tell

0:24:02.720 --> 0:24:03.760
<v Speaker 2>them what is wrong with them.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the deal. All of these things are good for

0:24:07.400 --> 0:24:11.680
<v Speaker 1>general information but the specific information about you is between

0:24:11.760 --> 0:24:15.640
<v Speaker 1>you and your doctor. Your regular doctor, not the one

0:24:15.640 --> 0:24:16.640
<v Speaker 1>that will just quickly give you.

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<v Speaker 2>A medical certificate to say you can have another day

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<v Speaker 2>off work, not the one that will quickly via an

0:24:23.119 --> 0:24:26.879
<v Speaker 2>app send back the prescription that there's no controversy about.

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<v Speaker 2>If you've got questions about your health, see your local GP.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, But can I build on this?

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<v Speaker 2>Here where some information about Australian who are getting the

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<v Speaker 2>wrong information from the most trusted and important family member

0:24:41.119 --> 0:24:45.479
<v Speaker 2>their mobile phone. People have been warned about trusting doctor

0:24:45.520 --> 0:24:48.320
<v Speaker 2>Google for years, but AI is opening up a disturbing

0:24:48.520 --> 0:24:52.119
<v Speaker 2>new world of dangerous health misinformation. A new, first of

0:24:52.160 --> 0:24:55.119
<v Speaker 2>its kind global study led by researchers at the University

0:24:55.320 --> 0:24:59.040
<v Speaker 2>of South Australia, Flinder's University, Harvard Medical School, That's Fancy

0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:02.879
<v Speaker 2>Diversity College in London, and the Warsaw University of Technology

0:25:02.880 --> 0:25:07.520
<v Speaker 2>has revealed how easily chatbots can be and are programmed

0:25:07.520 --> 0:25:11.960
<v Speaker 2>to deliver false medical and health information. Meantime, I don't

0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:15.000
<v Speaker 2>have much more information than the headline, but there is

0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:17.720
<v Speaker 2>some pretty good work being done in and around Alzheimer's,

0:25:17.920 --> 0:25:23.120
<v Speaker 2>particularly with some medication. More Australian researchers that are involved with that. Today,

0:25:23.240 --> 0:25:26.560
<v Speaker 2>when we know more, I will gladly tell you so in.

0:25:26.480 --> 0:25:29.200
<v Speaker 1>A moment or two's time. A couple of other.

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<v Speaker 2>Things quickly to mention here too, which is the mushroom trial. Well,

0:25:33.960 --> 0:25:37.000
<v Speaker 2>now the jury is off towards formal deliberations. Now anyone

0:25:37.040 --> 0:25:39.480
<v Speaker 2>who knows the jury process knows there's not just the

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<v Speaker 2>twelve people that sit in the jury box, but there

0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:45.600
<v Speaker 2>are two alternates. Because no one was booted off the jury,

0:25:45.960 --> 0:25:48.760
<v Speaker 2>there was no need for the alternatives. So today decision

0:25:48.840 --> 0:25:51.239
<v Speaker 2>was made amongst those fourteen fourteen names and the hat

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<v Speaker 2>because you've sat and you've watched everything, and they have

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<v Speaker 2>all then they picked twelve and two sat through the

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<v Speaker 2>whole trial, but have no further role to play.

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<v Speaker 1>Slightly trading.

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<v Speaker 2>But one of the things that was said to the

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<v Speaker 2>jury today in its instructions from the bench was that

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<v Speaker 2>you can't be fifty to fifty on this. You've got

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<v Speaker 2>to all be in one place to find the accused guilty.

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<v Speaker 10>The decision it needs to be unanimous, So all twelve

0:26:19.680 --> 0:26:22.760
<v Speaker 10>jury members need to decide on the same verdict, and

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<v Speaker 10>if they don't, that means the trial could end in

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<v Speaker 10>a hung jury.

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0:27:41.000 --> 0:27:44.440
<v Speaker 2>watching this Monday night. It's a big ACDC news next

0:27:44.480 --> 0:28:00.760
<v Speaker 2>as well. Oh how good are they? How good are they? ACDC?

0:28:01.359 --> 0:28:04.000
<v Speaker 2>And as you know, they are coming back to Australia.

0:28:04.840 --> 0:28:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Maide Nicholas Reese is going to go out of his

0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:08.880
<v Speaker 2>way to celebrate them in Melbourne. I'll have a chat

0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:10.280
<v Speaker 2>about that in the second or two is time.

0:28:10.680 --> 0:28:11.359
<v Speaker 1>But how good is this?

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<v Speaker 2>Acdc's Power Up Tour has set new concert box office

0:28:16.080 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 2>records in its first few days.

0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:20.159
<v Speaker 1>Fans who made it out of the lounge to the.

0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:24.200
<v Speaker 2>Checkout snapped up houses three hundred and twenty thousand tickets

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:27.120
<v Speaker 2>and they did it all in less than a day.

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:29.919
<v Speaker 2>They'll be here in November and December. They are at

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<v Speaker 2>the Melbourne crioekt Ground on November twelve, November twenty one

0:28:33.720 --> 0:28:36.640
<v Speaker 2>at a Core Stadium. See again, there's a little gap

0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:38.840
<v Speaker 2>between shows once you hit a certain age you're allowed

0:28:38.840 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 2>to do so they've got family to.

0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:41.160
<v Speaker 1>Drop in on of course as well.

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:43.160
<v Speaker 2>Now the one I'm going to be going to is

0:28:43.160 --> 0:28:46.560
<v Speaker 2>going to be November thirty because they are part of

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<v Speaker 2>the Supercar's Grand Final.

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<v Speaker 1>How cool is that?

0:28:50.880 --> 0:28:53.320
<v Speaker 2>Supercars during the day, so you can see the broom brooms,

0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:56.640
<v Speaker 2>you'll see the title, you'll see ac DC.

0:28:57.240 --> 0:28:58.400
<v Speaker 1>Pretty amazing, right.

0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:00.760
<v Speaker 2>They're also going to make their way opt A Stadium

0:29:00.800 --> 0:29:04.360
<v Speaker 2>in Perth, sun Corps Stadium in Brisbane in December is

0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:05.320
<v Speaker 2>where they are going to be.

0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:06.640
<v Speaker 1>Now, a person.

0:29:06.360 --> 0:29:08.160
<v Speaker 2>Who loves a concert, I don't know if she's ever

0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:10.760
<v Speaker 2>been to an ac DC concert. I hope she's going

0:29:10.800 --> 0:29:13.040
<v Speaker 2>to the Chris Stapleton concert, which I just checked is

0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:16.600
<v Speaker 2>in Greenville, South Carolina this weekend. Is none other than

0:29:16.640 --> 0:29:19.200
<v Speaker 2>the wonderful Laura Jays, our newsday host who is in

0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:22.120
<v Speaker 2>the United States covering things for us. You off to

0:29:22.200 --> 0:29:24.360
<v Speaker 2>Chris Stapleton because now I've mentioned her on TV. It's

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<v Speaker 2>probably a tax ride off.

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<v Speaker 6>I wish Paullie. I wish Paulie. I wish I went

0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:32.880
<v Speaker 6>twice in Sydney. I've heard all my favorite songs. That's

0:29:32.880 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 6>still not enough for me, but I have to get

0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:37.480
<v Speaker 6>my fil with ACDC. I'll be home by the weekend.

0:29:37.560 --> 0:29:40.440
<v Speaker 6>I'm hosting our Economic forum on Saturday, so of course

0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:42.880
<v Speaker 6>you know I'm flying private home, so I'll be fine.

0:29:43.120 --> 0:29:45.120
<v Speaker 2>Please, Yeah, got a little PJ. That's fine, all right,

0:29:45.160 --> 0:29:48.160
<v Speaker 2>So bing bang boom. Let's talk about now. Of course, Washington,

0:29:48.240 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 2>d C. I mean literally from Shelley's back room, great Cigaba,

0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:55.680
<v Speaker 2>all the way, every bar is just talking about Kevin Rudd,

0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:59.000
<v Speaker 2>the Australian ambassador, and whether we will or won't get

0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:02.200
<v Speaker 2>a meeting re is. We talk about this a lot

0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:04.400
<v Speaker 2>more than I think even the people whose job it

0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:07.959
<v Speaker 2>is to organize it in Washington talk about it. But Laura,

0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:11.920
<v Speaker 2>those tariffs matter because the ten percent on every country

0:30:12.240 --> 0:30:14.400
<v Speaker 2>it was held off for ninety days. That ninety days

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:16.680
<v Speaker 2>runs out in ten days from now.

0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:21.680
<v Speaker 6>Yep, yeah, that's right. And Donald Trump has said, yes,

0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:24.440
<v Speaker 6>say in a Fox News interview that it doesn't really matter.

0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 6>He doesn't worry about the timeline or the deadline. He's

0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:30.240
<v Speaker 6>just going to send letters to countries that he hasn't

0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:33.080
<v Speaker 6>negotiated with. So the world is in limbo. Australia in

0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:35.479
<v Speaker 6>all of that we're being treated like a third ty

0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:38.720
<v Speaker 6>ally at the moment, he's done two deals or one

0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:41.719
<v Speaker 6>half deal with China, one deal with the UK, and

0:30:41.840 --> 0:30:44.720
<v Speaker 6>he's thrown a tantrum with Canada and won't deal with

0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:46.400
<v Speaker 6>them at all for the next eight weeks because of

0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:48.880
<v Speaker 6>this digital services tax. But we are not going to

0:30:48.880 --> 0:30:52.120
<v Speaker 6>get a deal. We're not even get any fat any FaceTime.

0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:55.640
<v Speaker 6>I mean, for example, Penny Wong's here at today. Don

0:30:55.680 --> 0:30:58.520
<v Speaker 6>Farrell's on holidays for the next two weeks. So look,

0:30:58.560 --> 0:31:01.080
<v Speaker 6>it doesn't always come down to the train minister. But

0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:05.240
<v Speaker 6>that's just not going to happen, Paul. So when Anthony

0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:07.360
<v Speaker 6>Abernezi stands up every day and says, oh no, we'll

0:31:07.400 --> 0:31:10.200
<v Speaker 6>continue to negotiate, We'll continue to plead our case, they're

0:31:10.200 --> 0:31:14.240
<v Speaker 6>not even getting a hearing here. You know how Washington works.

0:31:14.320 --> 0:31:16.040
<v Speaker 6>There's a lot of respect for Kevin Rudd when it

0:31:16.040 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 6>comes to his views on China, but there's a bit

0:31:20.040 --> 0:31:23.440
<v Speaker 6>of form when it comes to his conduct in the

0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:27.120
<v Speaker 6>Biden administration. But also under Trump, they just simply don't

0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:29.960
<v Speaker 6>like him. I had a great polster on yesterday. He's

0:31:29.960 --> 0:31:32.880
<v Speaker 6>on three of Trump's campaigns. He knows what he's talking

0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:35.640
<v Speaker 6>about he's plugged in here in Washington, and during a

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:40.000
<v Speaker 6>live interview I said, he said, you know, the Australians

0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:43.720
<v Speaker 6>need to find an Australian that Trump likes. I said, oh,

0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:47.160
<v Speaker 6>is it personal, Like doesn't Trump like Anthony Abnezi or

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 6>digit does he just not know him? He said, no,

0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:51.960
<v Speaker 6>I'm talking about your ambassador. I think he's the problem.

0:31:52.360 --> 0:31:54.880
<v Speaker 6>So that is the view that he put forward on

0:31:54.920 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 6>am agenda this morning. And you know it's not everything,

0:32:00.160 --> 0:32:02.720
<v Speaker 6>but that's got to be some of the issue there, right.

0:32:02.560 --> 0:32:04.280
<v Speaker 1>Well, this is it is what it is, right. It's

0:32:04.280 --> 0:32:06.160
<v Speaker 1>not like he doesn't know about Australia.

0:32:06.400 --> 0:32:08.600
<v Speaker 2>We have a state visit, right, It's not like he's

0:32:08.640 --> 0:32:11.840
<v Speaker 2>not aware of Australia. He's had briefings about things like workers.

0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:14.320
<v Speaker 2>So something is in the way here.

0:32:14.600 --> 0:32:14.800
<v Speaker 1>Now.

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:17.760
<v Speaker 2>Again, I don't just because Trump is a pressI and

0:32:17.760 --> 0:32:20.040
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't mean that every single part of our representation

0:32:20.080 --> 0:32:22.280
<v Speaker 2>has to go full maga. But when we have been

0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 2>as anti as we have been, that that's going to

0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:27.280
<v Speaker 2>be some trouble. Two other quick things before I let

0:32:27.320 --> 0:32:29.240
<v Speaker 2>you go here, which is I wanted to talk about

0:32:29.520 --> 0:32:33.640
<v Speaker 2>the Supreme Court because it made major decisions, particularly that now. Mean,

0:32:34.360 --> 0:32:36.240
<v Speaker 2>you know, if you're a Democrat and you go off

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:39.520
<v Speaker 2>to the most anti Trump judge in California, it can't

0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:41.480
<v Speaker 2>stop Trump from doing what he wants to do across

0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:42.000
<v Speaker 2>the country.

0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:47.040
<v Speaker 6>No, that's right. He has had some major wins this week.

0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:49.880
<v Speaker 6>And that win, in particular in the Supreme Court comes

0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:53.400
<v Speaker 6>down to making executive orders and whether the federal court

0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:56.880
<v Speaker 6>can challenge those executive orders, and then you know, you

0:32:56.960 --> 0:32:59.040
<v Speaker 6>get caught up in this law fare for years and

0:32:59.120 --> 0:33:02.720
<v Speaker 6>years and years. Now. There's a lot of Trump supporters

0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:05.800
<v Speaker 6>that point out that he's always been challenged by the

0:33:05.800 --> 0:33:08.560
<v Speaker 6>federal court. But no president in history has made so

0:33:08.600 --> 0:33:12.440
<v Speaker 6>many executive orders either. I mean Obama did, but Trump,

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:15.520
<v Speaker 6>in terms of volume, is making a lot more. This particularly,

0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:18.600
<v Speaker 6>he has had a win when it comes to birthright citizenship.

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:21.440
<v Speaker 6>If you have a baby here in the US, you

0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:24.680
<v Speaker 6>automatically get citizenship. Now, Trump said that was meant for

0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:28.800
<v Speaker 6>the babies of slaves, not meant for undocumented migrants and

0:33:28.840 --> 0:33:33.040
<v Speaker 6>those on temporary visas. So it's something he takes really seriously.

0:33:33.360 --> 0:33:36.760
<v Speaker 6>It doesn't mean that that is now completely changed, but

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:38.640
<v Speaker 6>it does mean he's had a big win. But I've

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:42.320
<v Speaker 6>got to say Paul. I know from not just under Trump,

0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:46.040
<v Speaker 6>but under every present they take that birthright citizenship very seriously.

0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:48.680
<v Speaker 6>Remember when I came to cover the Trump inauguration in

0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:51.280
<v Speaker 6>twenty twenty, I was six months pregnant. I'm a little

0:33:51.320 --> 0:33:56.440
<v Speaker 6>larger than any normal pregnant woman. But they thought I

0:33:56.480 --> 0:33:58.680
<v Speaker 6>was trying to have an anchor baby. So they kept

0:33:58.680 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 6>me in immigration detention for four hours questioning me. So

0:34:03.320 --> 0:34:07.360
<v Speaker 6>that was from first hand experience something that they and

0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:09.440
<v Speaker 6>they flat out asked me, Are you trying to mammy?

0:34:09.400 --> 0:34:10.880
<v Speaker 6>Are you trying to have an anchor baby?

0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:11.200
<v Speaker 4>No?

0:34:11.320 --> 0:34:11.799
<v Speaker 3>I was not.

0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:12.839
<v Speaker 6>I wanted to get home.

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<v Speaker 2>No, Billy's all Australian. All Australian, all right, and we

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<v Speaker 2>love his mum. Right, A quick one before we go. So,

0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:22.960
<v Speaker 2>the Democratic socialist who is probably going to end up

0:34:22.960 --> 0:34:25.440
<v Speaker 2>as a New York mayor, he's been on Telly and

0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:29.000
<v Speaker 2>frankly he is presenting himself as sort of next generation star.

0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:31.799
<v Speaker 2>And I've said this for years, Right, the response to

0:34:31.880 --> 0:34:36.120
<v Speaker 2>economic populism of Trump will be something like democratic socialism.

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<v Speaker 2>And this blog knows how to talk on television, right,

0:34:38.640 --> 0:34:40.400
<v Speaker 2>agree or disagree. Have a look at what he had

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<v Speaker 2>to say.

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<v Speaker 6>Do you think that billionaires have a rate to exist.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't think that we should have billionaires because frankly,

0:34:48.960 --> 0:34:52.120
<v Speaker 7>it is so much money in a moment of such inequality.

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<v Speaker 7>And ultimately what we need more of is equality across

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<v Speaker 7>our city and across our state and across our country.

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<v Speaker 7>And I look forward to with everyone, including billionaires, to

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<v Speaker 7>make a city that is fairer for all of them.

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<v Speaker 1>These blogs slick LJ. He's slick.

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<v Speaker 6>He certainly is. And you know what he is, the

0:35:12.400 --> 0:35:16.759
<v Speaker 6>TikTok candidate. He went to TikTok Instagram and had just

0:35:16.800 --> 0:35:20.279
<v Speaker 6>got all of these young democrats and he's kind of

0:35:20.320 --> 0:35:23.440
<v Speaker 6>thrown the whole campaigning issue on its handmade Chris Cuomo

0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:26.680
<v Speaker 6>was out spending him by tens of millions of dollars

0:35:26.719 --> 0:35:29.359
<v Speaker 6>in TV ads, but he flew under the radar. He

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<v Speaker 6>is a socialist, unashamedly a socialist. And he's talking about

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<v Speaker 6>government own grocery stores. He's talking about an extra two

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<v Speaker 6>percent tax on very high income earners. It is flat

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<v Speaker 6>out socialism. He doesn't even deny that. But it's extraordinary,

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<v Speaker 6>not just that you could see the rise of somewlight

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<v Speaker 6>like this in New York, America's biggest city where all

0:35:52.320 --> 0:35:54.840
<v Speaker 6>the billionaires live, not all of them, but most of

0:35:54.880 --> 0:35:58.040
<v Speaker 6>them that he could actually get to the point where

0:35:58.040 --> 0:36:00.960
<v Speaker 6>he is a red hot candidate. Looks mixed views of

0:36:00.960 --> 0:36:02.799
<v Speaker 6>whether he actually could win this thing, but he won

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<v Speaker 6>the primary, so he's their front and center. He cuts

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<v Speaker 6>through like nothing I've ever seen, because usually when you

0:36:09.000 --> 0:36:12.480
<v Speaker 6>run campaigns like these, Paul, it's like whoever pre selects you?

0:36:12.560 --> 0:36:15.080
<v Speaker 6>The Democrats look at you, go what's your ability to

0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:17.520
<v Speaker 6>raise money? The reason that they want to raise so

0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:20.040
<v Speaker 6>much money is to spend tens of million dollars on

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<v Speaker 6>at TV advertising. He doesn't need to do that. He's

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<v Speaker 6>been pre selected, just with TikTok and his videos are

0:36:27.120 --> 0:36:29.400
<v Speaker 6>kind of weird, but they cut through and it speaks

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<v Speaker 6>to a younger generation like a lot of people don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>How very much, so well, you know how to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to this generation and this bloke in particular, which is

0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:39.160
<v Speaker 2>why we love you all the best. Laura, will see

0:36:39.160 --> 0:36:40.760
<v Speaker 2>you in the morning. We'll see you back on the weekend.

0:36:40.760 --> 0:36:42.520
<v Speaker 2>Al right, have you see I love it too, Dylan.

0:36:42.719 --> 0:36:45.520
<v Speaker 2>Laura Jay is there, of course doing it for us

0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:49.200
<v Speaker 2>here in Washington, DC. Wonderful place where she's standing. It's

0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:51.160
<v Speaker 2>on top of the Fox News building, where of course

0:36:51.160 --> 0:36:53.560
<v Speaker 2>we've done many a great broadcast over the years. Should

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<v Speaker 2>be back about the same time at twelve hours from

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<v Speaker 2>now here on Sky News Quick Break Back with More,

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<v Speaker 2>and the debate begins between Senator Matt Cannon and Nicholas Rees.

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<v Speaker 2>Single most patient man in the history of Poor Marie

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<v Speaker 2>Live guests would have to be Matt Canavan. He was sitting,

0:37:11.120 --> 0:37:15.320
<v Speaker 2>He was ready at nine oh one. Nicholas Rees, on

0:37:15.360 --> 0:37:17.200
<v Speaker 2>the other hand, has an entire city to run, so

0:37:17.280 --> 0:37:19.520
<v Speaker 2>council meetings went late. So here we are Nicholas Rees,

0:37:19.600 --> 0:37:21.960
<v Speaker 2>Matt Cannavan and Matt got dressed up and isn't it.

0:37:21.960 --> 0:37:23.000
<v Speaker 2>It's not like he was in his.

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<v Speaker 1>Own Lund room.

0:37:24.080 --> 0:37:26.000
<v Speaker 2>He's come all the way to Brisbane to do the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you guys, to appreciate it all right now. Matt

0:37:29.239 --> 0:37:31.160
<v Speaker 2>I mentioned this on the show last night, which was

0:37:31.480 --> 0:37:34.360
<v Speaker 2>the ANZ Bank coming out and talking about the importance

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<v Speaker 2>of food security. For all of this conversation about you know,

0:37:37.680 --> 0:37:39.640
<v Speaker 2>bullets and guns in China and all the rest of it.

0:37:39.920 --> 0:37:43.799
<v Speaker 2>If we are importing as much as much fruit, veg

0:37:43.960 --> 0:37:47.000
<v Speaker 2>and canned food, then we are in a world of trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>If for whatever reason, we got cut off or punished for,

0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:52.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, wanting an inquiry.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, look, Paul, I've been I've been trying to shout

0:37:57.600 --> 0:38:02.239
<v Speaker 3>about this for some months, really year now, and it's

0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:06.200
<v Speaker 3>quite rewarding to see finally some people waking up. And

0:38:06.239 --> 0:38:07.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure the good people at the A and Z

0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:11.719
<v Speaker 3>have run the numbers as I have, and my conclusion

0:38:11.840 --> 0:38:13.560
<v Speaker 3>is that this is the first time since the early

0:38:13.600 --> 0:38:16.960
<v Speaker 3>settlers that Australia really can't feed itself. Now, it is

0:38:17.000 --> 0:38:20.600
<v Speaker 3>true we produce more food than we consume, quite a

0:38:20.600 --> 0:38:23.200
<v Speaker 3>lot more food than we consume. The problem is the

0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:27.720
<v Speaker 3>way we produce that food uses inputs to its production,

0:38:27.800 --> 0:38:31.279
<v Speaker 3>really essential inputs that we no longer produce here. Top

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<v Speaker 3>among that list is a thing called eurea, which I've

0:38:33.920 --> 0:38:35.680
<v Speaker 3>been talking about now for a couple of years. Ever

0:38:35.719 --> 0:38:40.000
<v Speaker 3>since the last urea plant shut down here in Brisbane

0:38:40.000 --> 0:38:43.240
<v Speaker 3>where I am in early twenty twenty two. We lost

0:38:43.239 --> 0:38:45.960
<v Speaker 3>our last urea plant. We have to import the most

0:38:46.080 --> 0:38:48.840
<v Speaker 3>important fertilizer. It helps grow about half the world's food.

0:38:49.120 --> 0:38:52.680
<v Speaker 3>We have to import that from the Middle East and China. Likewise,

0:38:52.680 --> 0:38:56.640
<v Speaker 3>we import almost all of our pesticides that control pests

0:38:56.680 --> 0:39:00.680
<v Speaker 3>and weeds on our farms. To maximize our food production,

0:39:00.960 --> 0:39:04.160
<v Speaker 3>we now have to import the plastic nodules to make

0:39:04.200 --> 0:39:07.839
<v Speaker 3>things simple things like polypipe and water tanks, essential things

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<v Speaker 3>in modern agriculture. So without those things we cannot feed ourselves.

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<v Speaker 3>If our supply chains are cut off, we won't be

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<v Speaker 3>able to have a functioning farm sector. And I just

0:39:16.800 --> 0:39:20.040
<v Speaker 3>don't understand while we continue to pursue these mad ridiculous

0:39:20.560 --> 0:39:24.440
<v Speaker 3>net zero goals while turning a blind eye to the

0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:26.560
<v Speaker 3>most essential thing that any country has to do, any

0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:28.960
<v Speaker 3>society has to do, and that does grow its own food.

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<v Speaker 2>Nicholas, Because I've got a lot in the inbox here,

0:39:31.520 --> 0:39:33.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to debate that, but I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>get matts view across nice and clear at What I

0:39:35.520 --> 0:39:38.360
<v Speaker 2>do want to debate, though, is we have a national

0:39:38.360 --> 0:39:40.160
<v Speaker 2>referendum of that whether or not a voice to Parliament

0:39:40.200 --> 0:39:42.239
<v Speaker 2>should be in the Australian constitution. It was not a

0:39:42.280 --> 0:39:45.360
<v Speaker 2>total vote on everything and anything to do with indigenous issues.

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<v Speaker 2>But what about Victoria turning around and saying, oh, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>have our own anyway now again, Victoria even woke.

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<v Speaker 1>Victoria said no to this.

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<v Speaker 2>So how does the Victorian government justify doing it anyway.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh well, I think it's easy to justify and I

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<v Speaker 9>think it's very much a worthwhile thing to do, Paul.

0:40:05.440 --> 0:40:09.880
<v Speaker 9>The Victorian government went to an election promising to introduce

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<v Speaker 9>a First People's Assembly, they won in a thumping election victory,

0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:18.000
<v Speaker 9>and now they're implementing what they promised they would do.

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<v Speaker 9>And it's not a voice, it's not something that's enthrined

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<v Speaker 9>in the constitution, doesn't involve any constitutional change. It's just

0:40:25.400 --> 0:40:29.200
<v Speaker 9>a common sense body that's been set up which is

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<v Speaker 9>made up of First Nations people here in Victoria who

0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:36.080
<v Speaker 9>are democratically elected by people in that community, and it

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<v Speaker 9>provides advice to the Victorian government on matters relating to

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<v Speaker 9>Indigenous affairs. So pretty common sense measure, not constitutional change.

0:40:44.080 --> 0:40:45.920
<v Speaker 9>It's a government doing what they said they would do

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<v Speaker 9>when they went to the people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but has now I know that that body's been

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<v Speaker 2>around for a little while. Are there any examples of

0:40:51.160 --> 0:40:52.640
<v Speaker 2>the government rejecting its advice?

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<v Speaker 1>Nick, I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 9>Actually, it's certainly a body that's sort of in the

0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:05.160
<v Speaker 9>early stages of its uh, it's coming into into the world,

0:41:05.719 --> 0:41:09.160
<v Speaker 9>so I'm not aware of it rejecting anything.

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<v Speaker 2>As yet, because that's what it right obviously, noting the

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<v Speaker 2>responsibility and again that's a state government thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's the point, isn't it. Man? Which is which is?

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<v Speaker 2>And again so I'm not going to have fun Bashi

0:41:19.160 --> 0:41:21.440
<v Speaker 2>and Nick around with that is that again it's not

0:41:21.560 --> 0:41:24.080
<v Speaker 2>his area of responsibility. But this is what I mean.

0:41:24.120 --> 0:41:27.719
<v Speaker 2>The opposition, the opposition in Victoria, they need to come

0:41:27.760 --> 0:41:28.920
<v Speaker 2>out and not just say, oh, this is not what

0:41:28.960 --> 0:41:29.480
<v Speaker 2>the people want.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a look if.

0:41:30.480 --> 0:41:34.000
<v Speaker 2>There have been any decisions that have been rejected, because

0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:37.440
<v Speaker 2>otherwise we know exactly what that means, which is that

0:41:37.760 --> 0:41:39.880
<v Speaker 2>the Parliament ends up becoming the rubber stamp of the

0:41:39.920 --> 0:41:41.680
<v Speaker 2>Advisory Committee, not the other way around.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that's true, Paul, but I'd like to go one

0:41:44.960 --> 0:41:47.680
<v Speaker 3>step further and go sort of elin musk here on

0:41:47.719 --> 0:41:50.080
<v Speaker 3>this first People's Assembly of link now and now.

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<v Speaker 7>To me.

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<v Speaker 3>Give me give can you can someone give me who

0:41:56.080 --> 0:42:00.880
<v Speaker 3>supports this? Three things they've achieved since they've been assessed established?

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<v Speaker 3>Just three?

0:42:01.920 --> 0:42:03.280
<v Speaker 1>What have they done?

0:42:03.440 --> 0:42:05.920
<v Speaker 3>Nick? Do theyn what three things have they achieved since

0:42:05.920 --> 0:42:10.040
<v Speaker 3>they've been around? Well, I mean I think they're helping

0:42:10.320 --> 0:42:21.720
<v Speaker 3>the There was a long must be the satellite it is, sorry, Matt.

0:42:21.760 --> 0:42:24.719
<v Speaker 9>So they're helping with the treaty process in Victoria, they're

0:42:24.760 --> 0:42:29.040
<v Speaker 9>helping with the Euroic Justice Commission process. This is where

0:42:29.040 --> 0:42:33.000
<v Speaker 9>we engage in truth telling about our history. So they're

0:42:33.000 --> 0:42:35.719
<v Speaker 9>two pretty big ones. And look, I know there's been

0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:39.719
<v Speaker 9>a few issues around you know, major roads in Victoria,

0:42:39.960 --> 0:42:41.920
<v Speaker 9>so I think they've been giving advice on that. So,

0:42:42.200 --> 0:42:44.400
<v Speaker 9>I mean, I just think this is common sense stuff, right, like,

0:42:44.440 --> 0:42:47.040
<v Speaker 9>you make better decisions when you consult with people, and

0:42:47.120 --> 0:42:50.719
<v Speaker 9>having a First Nation's Assembly elected by Indigenous people to

0:42:50.800 --> 0:42:53.480
<v Speaker 9>help the government when it comes to making decisions about

0:42:54.080 --> 0:42:56.360
<v Speaker 9>government decisions that affect Indigenous people. That's just got to

0:42:56.400 --> 0:42:59.000
<v Speaker 9>ring a common sense to us. And let's not forget

0:42:59.280 --> 0:43:01.799
<v Speaker 9>the government went to the Victorian people and said, if

0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:04.040
<v Speaker 9>you elect us, this is what we'll do. They want

0:43:04.040 --> 0:43:06.759
<v Speaker 9>a thumping election victory. So now don't you think they

0:43:06.760 --> 0:43:07.359
<v Speaker 9>should get on.

0:43:07.320 --> 0:43:07.640
<v Speaker 1>And do it?

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<v Speaker 3>But Nick, this winter, this winter, Victoria may run out

0:43:12.040 --> 0:43:14.279
<v Speaker 3>of gas. It's on track at the moment to run

0:43:14.320 --> 0:43:17.040
<v Speaker 3>out of gas. And talking if we've sort of skirted

0:43:17.080 --> 0:43:20.399
<v Speaker 3>around the Victorian constitution right now. In that constitution right now,

0:43:20.920 --> 0:43:25.040
<v Speaker 3>well it reads equality before the Law, habeas corpus and

0:43:25.200 --> 0:43:27.760
<v Speaker 3>no fracking. One of the things in the Victoria's constitution

0:43:27.880 --> 0:43:31.000
<v Speaker 3>is a fracking band. It is absolutely absurd. I mean,

0:43:31.040 --> 0:43:32.640
<v Speaker 3>whatever you think about fracking, why the hell is it

0:43:32.640 --> 0:43:35.360
<v Speaker 3>in that constitution. It's hardly and it's it's hardly the

0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:38.520
<v Speaker 3>declaration of the rights of man. And now we're going

0:43:38.560 --> 0:43:40.479
<v Speaker 3>to face a situation where Victoria's running out of gas.

0:43:40.480 --> 0:43:43.360
<v Speaker 3>It is ridiculous. So why we're focusing on this. It's trivia.

0:43:43.440 --> 0:43:45.680
<v Speaker 3>It is absolutely trivia because you've raised that their achievements

0:43:45.680 --> 0:43:48.960
<v Speaker 3>are basically talking talking about things. I'm sickond tired of

0:43:49.000 --> 0:43:51.600
<v Speaker 3>talking about things. Let's start doing things as a country,

0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:54.520
<v Speaker 3>because we can do something about our gas shortages and

0:43:54.560 --> 0:43:56.520
<v Speaker 3>drill for more gas. Why don't we do that and

0:43:56.880 --> 0:43:59.319
<v Speaker 3>stop winging about queens. They're not sending you enough of it.

0:44:00.120 --> 0:44:03.720
<v Speaker 9>Nick, I mean, I've gotta hand it to your master debate.

0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:06.239
<v Speaker 9>You can take any topic like food security, which you

0:44:06.280 --> 0:44:08.080
<v Speaker 9>had me at one hundred percent until you said, but

0:44:08.120 --> 0:44:10.040
<v Speaker 9>instead we're talking about climate change and now having a

0:44:10.040 --> 0:44:13.000
<v Speaker 9>debate about a First Nations Assembly and other Commons emissions.

0:44:13.120 --> 0:44:16.719
<v Speaker 3>Somehow you can't have you turned about getting more guests

0:44:16.760 --> 0:44:17.000
<v Speaker 3>out of.

0:44:16.960 --> 0:44:20.560
<v Speaker 9>The ground I mean, next we talk about brands and

0:44:20.640 --> 0:44:21.680
<v Speaker 9>somehow you'll bring.

0:44:21.520 --> 0:44:28.759
<v Speaker 3>That back to coal or something like, how you can

0:44:28.800 --> 0:44:33.960
<v Speaker 3>do It's remarkable you can't fossil fuels.

0:44:34.040 --> 0:44:36.160
<v Speaker 2>Allow me to just put the ball on the teeth

0:44:36.200 --> 0:44:38.880
<v Speaker 2>and Matt again and see what happens here where developers

0:44:38.920 --> 0:44:40.760
<v Speaker 2>of course have walked away from.

0:44:40.560 --> 0:44:43.120
<v Speaker 1>The Central Queensland hydrogen project.

0:44:43.400 --> 0:44:46.839
<v Speaker 2>Yet another one that's falling over here in Queensland.

0:44:47.000 --> 0:44:49.200
<v Speaker 1>So Nick, let's see how fun you can hit it here.

0:44:49.200 --> 0:44:52.799
<v Speaker 1>It is more coal sweet.

0:44:55.040 --> 0:44:59.520
<v Speaker 3>Well, exactly exactly, Nick, If we have cheaper power process

0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:01.840
<v Speaker 3>and we have food trustue for sure. But this is

0:45:01.840 --> 0:45:04.240
<v Speaker 3>another example. I mean, this is another example of people

0:45:04.280 --> 0:45:07.400
<v Speaker 3>talking about things. So the Labor Party have been talking

0:45:07.400 --> 0:45:10.480
<v Speaker 3>about hydrogen jobs for years. This is not a laughing matter.

0:45:10.520 --> 0:45:12.480
<v Speaker 3>Nick's billions of dollars have been spent. I was there

0:45:12.520 --> 0:45:16.239
<v Speaker 3>just the other week in Gladstone where your government, the

0:45:16.320 --> 0:45:18.959
<v Speaker 3>Labor Party's government has given Twiggy for US ninety million

0:45:18.960 --> 0:45:21.120
<v Speaker 3>dollars or state and federal labor governments have given him

0:45:21.200 --> 0:45:25.160
<v Speaker 3>ninety million dollars. He's built a shed, some lovely beautiful

0:45:25.200 --> 0:45:30.799
<v Speaker 3>new roads and it's a complete white elephant. There were

0:45:30.880 --> 0:45:33.359
<v Speaker 3>ninety people working there a few months ago, are now three.

0:45:33.560 --> 0:45:35.480
<v Speaker 3>It was not a laughing matter. Nearly ninety people have

0:45:35.480 --> 0:45:38.520
<v Speaker 3>lost their jobs. You shouldn't laugh about it. And on

0:45:38.600 --> 0:45:40.840
<v Speaker 3>top of that, we've spent billions of dollars on a

0:45:40.920 --> 0:45:43.319
<v Speaker 3>water pipeline and transmission lines, on top of the ninety

0:45:43.320 --> 0:45:47.360
<v Speaker 3>million that are now both power lines and water pipelines

0:45:47.400 --> 0:45:50.400
<v Speaker 3>to nowhere. Because this project's not going ahead, and so

0:45:50.600 --> 0:45:54.280
<v Speaker 3>the Labor Party continues to talk about rubbish like hydrogen jobs.

0:45:54.560 --> 0:45:57.040
<v Speaker 3>And you could clearly see that we weren't going to

0:45:57.080 --> 0:46:00.520
<v Speaker 3>get a substantial number of hydrogen jobs anytime soon, but

0:46:00.640 --> 0:46:03.800
<v Speaker 3>to get them through election campaigns. Ironically going back to

0:46:03.800 --> 0:46:05.880
<v Speaker 3>about coal because they didn't want to. They wanted to

0:46:05.920 --> 0:46:08.000
<v Speaker 3>have a distraction in Central Queens about shutting down the

0:46:08.000 --> 0:46:11.480
<v Speaker 3>coal industry. They talked about hydrogen jobs. And now everybody's

0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:13.920
<v Speaker 3>missing out. We don't have a growing coal industry, and

0:46:14.000 --> 0:46:16.360
<v Speaker 3>we now have all of this debt that we've racked

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<v Speaker 3>up on a ridiculous pipe dream on hydrogen. It is

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<v Speaker 3>not working. Still though this government has nine billion dollars

0:46:22.920 --> 0:46:26.520
<v Speaker 3>in the budget for hydrogen nine billion dollars. Isn't it

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<v Speaker 3>about time we recognize failure and stop that stop it,

0:46:30.880 --> 0:46:32.839
<v Speaker 3>but it is still there potentially going to be spent

0:46:33.280 --> 0:46:34.480
<v Speaker 3>on absolute rubbish.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the thing, Nicholas, where where hydrogen is one of

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<v Speaker 2>the alternative technologies very brittle in terms of its capacity

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<v Speaker 2>to actually get out.

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<v Speaker 1>Of first gear.

0:46:45.000 --> 0:46:47.279
<v Speaker 2>Because we all know if there was cash in this,

0:46:47.600 --> 0:46:49.960
<v Speaker 2>if there was real cash in this, people would stick

0:46:50.000 --> 0:46:52.520
<v Speaker 2>with it, right because we know have a look at

0:46:52.560 --> 0:46:53.240
<v Speaker 2>the mining sector.

0:46:53.480 --> 0:46:55.839
<v Speaker 1>You see a piece of dirt.

0:46:55.560 --> 0:46:58.440
<v Speaker 2>As far as the horizon, Yet you decide to spend

0:46:58.480 --> 0:47:01.400
<v Speaker 2>how many minions to be able to dig it up

0:47:01.440 --> 0:47:03.200
<v Speaker 2>to process that decender the world to sell it and

0:47:03.239 --> 0:47:05.280
<v Speaker 2>that's how you make your money. So if these people

0:47:05.400 --> 0:47:09.920
<v Speaker 2>didn't see short to medium term return, even long term return,

0:47:09.920 --> 0:47:14.160
<v Speaker 2>they'd stick with it. But again they walk away.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, look again, the history of new technology and innovation

0:47:18.840 --> 0:47:22.000
<v Speaker 9>is littered with fits and starts, and so yes, screen

0:47:22.080 --> 0:47:25.640
<v Speaker 9>hydrogen sector is facing some headwinds here, but that doesn't

0:47:25.680 --> 0:47:30.520
<v Speaker 9>mean that the technology won't finally come good and help

0:47:30.600 --> 0:47:34.239
<v Speaker 9>Australia make that transition to being a zero economy. Like

0:47:34.280 --> 0:47:38.360
<v Speaker 9>with energy technologies in the past, you saw similar challenges

0:47:38.440 --> 0:47:42.960
<v Speaker 9>of being introduced. Coal fired power had been around theoretically

0:47:43.000 --> 0:47:45.080
<v Speaker 9>for a long time before Sir John Warnash and now

0:47:45.120 --> 0:47:47.640
<v Speaker 9>the great pioneers in the industry took it forward. That

0:47:47.640 --> 0:47:49.960
<v Speaker 9>doesn't mean we don't try and stop trying to move forward.

0:47:49.960 --> 0:47:52.560
<v Speaker 9>And Australia does have to get off coal. It does

0:47:52.640 --> 0:47:54.640
<v Speaker 9>have to get off gas. Matt, You and I can

0:47:54.680 --> 0:47:58.120
<v Speaker 9>debate the timelines and exactly the pathway there, but we

0:47:58.200 --> 0:48:01.160
<v Speaker 9>know we need to get there. So yes, there's a

0:48:01.200 --> 0:48:04.120
<v Speaker 9>set here with this green hydrogen project. But we do

0:48:04.239 --> 0:48:09.480
<v Speaker 9>need to continue pursuing these renewable power options because that's

0:48:10.000 --> 0:48:10.719
<v Speaker 9>the world has to.

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<v Speaker 3>Go forgiving every one we'll go.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't because I was just last week you go

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<v Speaker 2>go fifteen seconds, all right.

0:48:19.000 --> 0:48:22.000
<v Speaker 3>Well hold next fifteen seconds. Well, just last week, new

0:48:22.080 --> 0:48:25.240
<v Speaker 3>data came out that China, India, Mongolia, Indonesia have increased

0:48:25.239 --> 0:48:27.799
<v Speaker 3>their coal mining by one point two billion tons in

0:48:27.840 --> 0:48:29.680
<v Speaker 3>the three years since Netzera was signed up to. That's

0:48:29.719 --> 0:48:31.279
<v Speaker 3>more than double we produced in any one year.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, lads do appreciate it. They don't know as well.

0:48:34.000 --> 0:48:36.600
<v Speaker 9>And true in the morning, feeling tired, does it would

0:48:36.600 --> 0:48:37.520
<v Speaker 9>cold power solve that.

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<v Speaker 2>Cold?

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<v Speaker 1>I'll see you next week. Love you boys. I get

0:48:42.400 --> 0:48:44.080
<v Speaker 1>the last one. I know you get that. I get

0:48:44.120 --> 0:48:47.239
<v Speaker 1>the you's all right, quick break back with Murray.

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<v Speaker 2>Life before we get to the late debate with the

0:48:53.480 --> 0:48:57.000
<v Speaker 2>very special, very special Elements this evening. We're going to

0:48:57.040 --> 0:48:59.160
<v Speaker 2>have Niger Franchi on the show tomorrow night. I cannot

0:48:59.160 --> 0:49:01.120
<v Speaker 2>wait to see what his sponsors to the stuff that

0:49:01.160 --> 0:49:03.440
<v Speaker 2>happened at Glastonbury. Now, of course those of us that

0:49:03.480 --> 0:49:05.200
<v Speaker 2>believe in free speech where you have to stand up

0:49:05.200 --> 0:49:08.480
<v Speaker 2>for the stuff that's unpleasant. But the sort of b

0:49:08.800 --> 0:49:11.160
<v Speaker 2>factor around this story is that maybe what we said

0:49:11.200 --> 0:49:13.439
<v Speaker 2>on the stage could end up being a crime. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>find out what Nigel thinks this time tomorrow