WEBVTT - SEPSIS EXPLAINED WITH PROFESSOR SANJAYA SENANAYAKE

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<v Speaker 1>It's the most annoying trait that I have is when

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<v Speaker 1>I don't hear what someone says, I go, huh.

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<v Speaker 2>I My brother goes, pardon, Pardon's nice, yeah, but the

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<v Speaker 2>way he says it that he's like, pardon.

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<v Speaker 1>Where's Your Head At is a podcast that talks all

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<v Speaker 2>intimate details, advice, and much more. Hello, Hi, welcome Anna

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<v Speaker 2>to another episode of Where's Your Head At? Where is

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<v Speaker 2>Your Head At?

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<v Speaker 3>My head is at?

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<v Speaker 2>Look at this The red nails theory? Actually, I posted

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<v Speaker 2>on our Facebook page. I noticed that Tammy had her

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<v Speaker 2>nails painted red but watching a movie and I looked

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<v Speaker 2>over at her and I was like, oh, you've got

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<v Speaker 2>red nails.

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<v Speaker 3>I noticed, And what did the red nails do for you?

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<v Speaker 2>Ah? The red nails didn't really get me going, but like,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I just noticed him. At least, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you reckon that she heard the episode and then

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<v Speaker 1>got her nails red to test the theory?

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<v Speaker 2>That is actually probably a pretty good point. Do you reckon?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that what you did?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? I said on the last episode I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get my nails painted red. But then I

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<v Speaker 1>went to the nail salon and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>do I really want to have red nails? Because red

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<v Speaker 1>nails is such it's a statement, like it's very in

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<v Speaker 1>your face, but it's also quite chic, which I'm kind

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<v Speaker 1>of loving at the moment. But I'm very neutral with

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<v Speaker 1>my nails. So I didn't do it, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>should I just get my toenails painted red? And then

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I think that kind of defeats the

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<v Speaker 1>purpose of the red nail theory. So then, anyway, I've

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<v Speaker 1>committed to the podcast. This is my show of commitment

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<v Speaker 1>to you guys. Did Michael notice, Well, he didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>say anything, and then I was like, do you like

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<v Speaker 1>my nails? And he's like, oh, is that from the podcast?

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<v Speaker 3>So he kind of yeah. He kind of knew about

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<v Speaker 3>the theory because he listened to the episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Emma sent two hour Where's your Head said red nails.

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<v Speaker 2>I work at a very luxious hotel, and I can

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent confirm the red nail theory. I often

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<v Speaker 2>have fun nails crazy colors, but one time I choose

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<v Speaker 2>bright red. I would say, around twenty different men customers.

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<v Speaker 2>Even the chef's notice to all single ladies paint your

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<v Speaker 2>nails red and hang out in hotel lobbies.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, so she that's pretty big plug for red nails.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, go to a hotel lobby with your nails read plug.

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<v Speaker 3>What'd you say?

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<v Speaker 2>Go to a hotel lobby with your nails painted red?

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently you'll find you the man of your dreams or

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<v Speaker 2>you'll get attention.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually just noticed myself saying to you, like when

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't hear what you were saying, I was like huh.

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<v Speaker 1>And Michael has been pulling me up on that recently.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently it's the most annoying trait that I have is

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<v Speaker 1>when I don't hear what someone says, I go huh.

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<v Speaker 2>My brother goes pardon, pardon, and then like nice. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but the way he says it that he's like pardon.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I've noticed as well. Tabby's kids say what

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<v Speaker 2>did you say? What did you say? Like I noticed

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<v Speaker 2>when people say that nice. Yeah. I know. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>saying it's not bad. I just don't know what I say.

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<v Speaker 2>What do I say? When someone? I think, I say what? What?

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<v Speaker 4>Well?

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<v Speaker 1>What is apparently rude because what I do is rude.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what is a polite thing to say?

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<v Speaker 3>Excuse me?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you please repeat that?

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<v Speaker 3>Excuse me? Excuse me? Would you repeat that?

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<v Speaker 1>I think I say, I don't know, but anyway, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>apparently annoying Michael with saying that, So I'm really trying

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<v Speaker 1>to catch myself.

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<v Speaker 3>And I noticed I did it then, so I'm obviously

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<v Speaker 3>not doing a good.

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<v Speaker 2>Job of that. I also think you should focus on

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<v Speaker 2>not saying like as much. I know that you do

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<v Speaker 2>say that like like a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, me saying lie is my number one pet

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<v Speaker 1>peeve about myself. So when Michael's is me going huh,

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<v Speaker 1>minds is that?

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<v Speaker 3>I say like?

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<v Speaker 1>And I know exactly why I do it. It's because

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<v Speaker 1>I used to go to school in America and all

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<v Speaker 1>of the kids there say like in every second word,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least at the school I went to, they did,

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<v Speaker 1>and my parents used to pull me up on it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know what it is if it's like

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<v Speaker 1>I and I know when I do it as well,

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<v Speaker 1>when I don't know what I'm talking about, I say

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<v Speaker 1>like as kind of an um to kind of give

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<v Speaker 1>me more time to think about what I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Trying to say.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's such a bad habit to the point that

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I need to go to speech therapy

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<v Speaker 1>or something to help me stop saying it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny you say that. Do you know the wrestler

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<v Speaker 2>Rick Flair. He's a Matt fact for you idea continue, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>he's famous for going whoo wooh. He says that all

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<v Speaker 2>the time he started when he was doing like wrestling promos,

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<v Speaker 2>like walking on the microphone, when he didn't know what

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<v Speaker 2>to say, he'd just yell out woo. He'd be like

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<v Speaker 2>whoo to like think about what he was going to

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<v Speaker 2>say next, and it ended up becoming his gimmick and

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<v Speaker 2>he stick like he made millions of dollars off saying woo.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe you cannot like.

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<v Speaker 3>I need, I need, I need to switch out like

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<v Speaker 3>for something else.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys, if I if there's a word that I can

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<v Speaker 1>switch it out for, let me know on the Facebook page.

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<v Speaker 1>I really need to at thirty two years old. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not cute, you know, like, oh I did it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, now I'm going to be super self conscious of it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what we need to do actually on this podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>when I start saying like you need to say something

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<v Speaker 1>to pull.

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<v Speaker 3>Me up on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like time, you can get a time out and not

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<v Speaker 2>talk for a couple of minutes, So just let me

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<v Speaker 2>ramble on.

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<v Speaker 3>You can just like turn out.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, we'll find something. Let's ask everyone what

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<v Speaker 2>you can do, what your punishment can be if you say, like, what.

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<v Speaker 3>Should Matt say?

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<v Speaker 1>Even if I'm mid conversation and I say, like too

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<v Speaker 1>many times, you need to just call something out and

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's kick this habit.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm done with it. I don't want to say it anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>I give you something that gin.

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<v Speaker 2>Something I don't like to say either is things and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>When I'm explaining something.

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<v Speaker 1>You always that is your worst habit. So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you guys from listening to the podcast a

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<v Speaker 1>lot have noticed this. But Matt he'll be explaining something

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<v Speaker 1>and if he doesn't know the word, so say, for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>he's talking about Packfair shopping center, He'll be like, I went.

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<v Speaker 3>To thing and I'm like, what is thing? Yeah, I've

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<v Speaker 3>just said like twice I can't even do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, do you have a turn on for this week? Anna?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes? So my turn on of the week is obviously

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<v Speaker 1>that the red nail theory I think has worked. But

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<v Speaker 1>I have another one, and that is that it is

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<v Speaker 1>World Sepsis Day this Friday, the thirteenth. I am a

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<v Speaker 1>Sepsis ambassador. As you guys know, I've spoken about it

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<v Speaker 1>a lot on the podcast. I had sepsis this time

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<v Speaker 1>last year, nearly died. Yeah, I almost died. It was very,

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<v Speaker 1>very scary. I didn't really know what sepsis was. So

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<v Speaker 1>we have a professor actually coming onto the show to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the signs and symptoms so that you guys

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<v Speaker 1>can be aware if you're getting any of those symptoms.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's also just important to bring awareness

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<v Speaker 1>to sepsis, to kind of really talk about what it is,

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<v Speaker 1>what you can look out for. Because when I did

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<v Speaker 1>the and I haven't spoken about this yet, but I

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<v Speaker 1>was a part of the Sepsis campaign and I got

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to other sepsist survivors throughout that and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of our symptoms were similar, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>it is preventable. Not all sepsist cases are preventable, but

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of it is. At the time, as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we had our live show, I was launching Goldie B

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, I don't have time to be sick.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm you know, I'm go, go go. So I got antibiotics.

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<v Speaker 1>They were there, wrong hand biotics. I was progressively getting sicker,

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<v Speaker 1>the pain in my side. I was fully ignoring it

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<v Speaker 1>because I was like, I need to launch this business

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<v Speaker 1>and at the end of the day health is well.

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<v Speaker 1>So we really want you guys to learn something. So

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<v Speaker 1>we have Professor sam Jaya coming on very soon and

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully we can spread more awareness about it.

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<v Speaker 2>That' see idea. I know, I know, I've got to

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<v Speaker 2>do your challenge, say the tongue twister three times yes, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Then the Stepsist challenge and you basically have to say,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Stepsis susceptible and susceptible to sepsis and I've nominated

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<v Speaker 1>mat and I am still awaiting the video to go live.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I didn't realize it. Everyone, Yeah, I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 2>I actually had to do it. You asked me if

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to do it, and I was like, yeah, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you like message me and chasing me down

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<v Speaker 2>for it, and I was like, oh.

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<v Speaker 3>I really takes you down for your kidding. You're actually kidding.

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<v Speaker 3>I said it once.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello on my phone all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Matt's like, I thought it was only a story. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>you're one of my best friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, if you can't do it, how are we going

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<v Speaker 1>to ever spread awareness?

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<v Speaker 2>This is true. I'll do it. I'll get something to you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give it a go. I'm actually nervous. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if I can actually string it together. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>even say, like, I can't even form a normal sentence,

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<v Speaker 2>let alone a tongue twister. Gee is put me on

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<v Speaker 2>the spot.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have a turn on of the week?

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<v Speaker 2>I do. So. The NFL season is back, which means

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<v Speaker 2>fantasy football is back. So anyone who doesn't know what

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<v Speaker 2>fantasy football is, best way to explain it is, let

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<v Speaker 2>me get this straight. It's real players that play real games. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's real players that play a real game for fake

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<v Speaker 2>points in a fake league with your real mates.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it's something that you just love.

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<v Speaker 2>I do like, well, it brings like twelve of the

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<v Speaker 2>boys all together and we like just have a group

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<v Speaker 2>chat just ripping each other about it. You draft your team,

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<v Speaker 2>so oh, so I actually the boys. I flew down

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<v Speaker 2>to Melbourne for the day to surprise them for the

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<v Speaker 2>draft night. So I wasn't going to go, and I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just sue me and you guys can just auto

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<v Speaker 2>draft my team. But then the commissioner called me and

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<v Speaker 2>he said, hey, we have like we normally get like

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<v Speaker 2>a cameo to read out the list of order of

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<v Speaker 2>what we draft.

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<v Speaker 3>And he was put even by a cameo. So you

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<v Speaker 3>know cameo, how you well, like a celebrity.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we get like a pollen star or an

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<v Speaker 2>next NFL player to like read out the list. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the boys will get around it. And he's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got a budget of five hundred bucks. So he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>instead of getting a cameo, how about you do the

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<v Speaker 2>cameo and we pay for your ticket to come down

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<v Speaker 2>and you surprise them. So timing was perfect. Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 2>boys came in. It was just like the boys got

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<v Speaker 2>around it and it was perfect. It was Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 2>loved it and then flew out the next day drafted

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<v Speaker 2>a good team. But I think I'm going to lose

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<v Speaker 2>Week one, which sucks.

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<v Speaker 3>You missed the best part though. Matt literally was the cameo.

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<v Speaker 3>He did the video.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I did the video so I was a

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<v Speaker 2>surprise there.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, so I did the video and then I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, all right, boys, like I love ya, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have to like love you and leave your draft

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<v Speaker 2>me a good team. Don't let I said one of

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<v Speaker 2>the boys draft you know, just ripped the boys. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I said, but I have a surprise for your commish.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you open the door? And then I came in

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<v Speaker 2>with two points to two jugs of beer and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, here we go, boys, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's actually the best. And they didn't expect you

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<v Speaker 1>to be there.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I was in Sydney the night before, so I

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<v Speaker 2>was posting that I was still in Sydney on my Instagram,

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<v Speaker 2>So they had no idea. They didn't think I was

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<v Speaker 2>going to be in Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 3>You tricked them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was pretty good.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have an ick of the Week?

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<v Speaker 2>I do? Actually, so I'm sucks. Tammy's going on a

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<v Speaker 2>She's got a retreat. So if anyone wants to go

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<v Speaker 2>on Tammy's retreat tickets I think there's a couple still available,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm not going. I was meant to go with her,

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<v Speaker 2>but work's too busy. I can't. I can't get out

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<v Speaker 2>of here, which would have been grease twice in one

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<v Speaker 2>year would have been a bit much, but I would

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<v Speaker 2>have loved to have gone a lot. It's a lot. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm just going to miss it.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>We haven't been away for a week ever since we

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<v Speaker 2>first started dating, well over a year. Really no, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>like we did long distance, but what like three days here,

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<v Speaker 2>four days there? If that, like it was maybe three

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<v Speaker 2>days top, so we were away from each other. We

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<v Speaker 2>always just made it work.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it does suck being away from your partner, but

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<v Speaker 1>I do think that it's right that absence makes the

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<v Speaker 1>heart grow fonder.

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<v Speaker 2>Really sure just makes I think, it just makes me angry.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to cuddle. Anxious, anxious, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Sad, anxious, rocking yourself sleep at night.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have a turn off?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>So mine is. I don't know. I think this is

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<v Speaker 3>like silly and ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>And while most of them I've been about to say this,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's you know, stupid. But in my bathroom

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<v Speaker 1>there's a light flickering. And I said to Michael, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's a demon in this house because every

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<v Speaker 1>time I go to toilet now it's like flickering. It's

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<v Speaker 1>freaking me out. It's scary. Anyway, last night I had

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<v Speaker 1>this dream and there was a demon like right beside me.

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<v Speaker 1>Keeping in mind, as you know, I hate horror movies.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't watch them, and I don't have bad dreams

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<v Speaker 1>really because I'm not putting any sort of negative external

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<v Speaker 1>shows into my brain.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm dreaming of a demon. So now I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's a demon in the house.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do you like a seance or something.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm literally after this podcast, I'm going to the market

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna buy some sage and I'm gonna sage

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<v Speaker 1>the fuck out of my house and cleanse the safe

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<v Speaker 1>because there's.

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<v Speaker 3>A demon just getting into my brain.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember that? Do you remember that X I

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<v Speaker 2>had that would sage your house all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she saved your mind to her think. Okay, Matt, well,

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<v Speaker 3>it was great to catch out with you.

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<v Speaker 1>In honor of World Sepsist, Let's now talk to Professor

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<v Speaker 1>sand Jaya about all things sepsis and how you can

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<v Speaker 1>look out for the signs and symptoms. Matt, we are

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<v Speaker 1>joined by Professor Sanjaya. He is a physician at the

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<v Speaker 1>Infectious Disease Unit at Canberra Hospital.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi Hi, Hannah Hi Matt, how are you, hey, mate,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>We're super excited to have you on the podcast to

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<v Speaker 1>help spread awareness about sepsis. I had sepsis this time

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<v Speaker 1>last year actually, and I ended up in the Infectious

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<v Speaker 1>Disease Unit at the Alfred And it is World Sepsis

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<v Speaker 1>Day this Friday, the thirteenth, so we thought that we'd

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<v Speaker 1>have you on to share with our listeners some signs

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<v Speaker 1>and symptoms, even to kind of explain what sepsis is,

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<v Speaker 1>because only sixty one percent of Australians know what sepsis is.

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<v Speaker 1>So can you kind of give us an outline of

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<v Speaker 1>what sepsis actually is?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so Anna a met. Everyone has heard of infections,

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<v Speaker 4>whether they're skin infections, utiys urinary tract infections, meningitis, pneumonia,

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<v Speaker 4>Everyone's heard of those things. Now, sepsis is a particular condition.

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<v Speaker 4>It's when you have an infection and your body responds

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<v Speaker 4>with inflammation to fight the infection that ends up being

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<v Speaker 4>harmful to your body. It can affect multiple organs and

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<v Speaker 4>you can even die.

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<v Speaker 2>So your body is fighting the infection and by doing that,

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<v Speaker 2>it's actually putting your body in more strife. Are you saying, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's right.

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<v Speaker 4>So we've got this amazing immune system that's evolved over

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<v Speaker 4>thousands of years to protect us, and often it will

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<v Speaker 4>we'll just get a you know, you'll be outside, you'll

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<v Speaker 4>cut yourself outside, and that heals without a problem. You

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<v Speaker 4>don't need antibiotics and you're fine. That's because you've got

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<v Speaker 4>a healthy immune system that stops the infection getting out

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<v Speaker 4>of control. But sometimes infections do get out of control

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<v Speaker 4>and we need our immune system to fight it. And

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<v Speaker 4>sometimes it does that in a sort of reasonable response,

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<v Speaker 4>but occasionally it can get so aggressive that it can

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<v Speaker 4>start to harm our insights, so our organs, our brains,

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<v Speaker 4>our kidneys, our hearts, our lungs, and that's when you

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<v Speaker 4>get sepsis. And if we don't treat sepsis quickly, then

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<v Speaker 4>it can have a very bad outcome.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually very interesting hearing you give the definition, because

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<v Speaker 1>I think that there are some misconceptions about the definition

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<v Speaker 1>of sepsis. I know, for me, I've described it before

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<v Speaker 1>as an infection that gets into the blood, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>heard other people kind of describe it this way, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's not exactly correct.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that true?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>And no, no, you're quite right, and it's not just

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<v Speaker 4>non medical or non healthcare people who who feel that way.

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<v Speaker 4>There are people in the healthcare industry who also also

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<v Speaker 4>believe that. But the reality is this and infection, it

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't have to get into the blood. It's just your

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<v Speaker 4>immune response to that infection that can cause harm. And

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<v Speaker 4>there's certainly a proportion of people who have sepsis due

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<v Speaker 4>to a serious infection that don't have it in the blood.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, when I had sepsis, I feel like it

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<v Speaker 1>all happens so quickly. I went from being, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>working pretty well, and within an instant I was in

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<v Speaker 1>emergency and in quite a lot of pain. What makes

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<v Speaker 1>sepsis particularly dangerous for Australians, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Think part of it you've described really well. It can

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<v Speaker 4>come upon you really quickly. In many ways, it's like

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<v Speaker 4>a heart attack. We're all really well trained to know

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<v Speaker 4>about heart attacks. If you get this dull chest pain

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<v Speaker 4>in the middle of your chest, maybe pain down your arm,

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<v Speaker 4>you get sweaty, you go to hospital because you know

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<v Speaker 4>if you don't, if you having a heart attack and

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<v Speaker 4>you don't go to hospital quickly, you can die. And

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<v Speaker 4>that's another thing I should just maybe go on a

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<v Speaker 4>bit of a tangent to tell you about as a

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<v Speaker 4>medical student. So about thirty years ago it was all

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<v Speaker 4>down to a fine art. When it came to heart attacks,

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<v Speaker 4>we knew if someone comes to the emergency department with

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<v Speaker 4>chest pain, we have to immediately get them into a bed,

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<v Speaker 4>do an ECG, take some blood tests, and if it's

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<v Speaker 4>looking like a heart attack, we've got to do this,

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<v Speaker 4>this and this, and that's why now we're so good

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<v Speaker 4>and in Australia at treating heart attacks. But sepsis is

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<v Speaker 4>a similar thing. It can come on really quickly and

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<v Speaker 4>the longer you wait to treat it, the worst the

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<v Speaker 4>outcome can be. So for every hour that you leave

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<v Speaker 4>sepsis untreated, that increases your chance of dying by eight percent.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think, yeah, So I think at both levels

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<v Speaker 4>sort of as a doctor and as a patient. And

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<v Speaker 4>there's a lot we don't know about sepsis, so I

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<v Speaker 4>think that's one part of the problem. Secondly, as you

0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:08.680
<v Speaker 4>beautifully described, Danna, it can hit you just like that.

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<v Speaker 4>You can be really well one minute and the next

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<v Speaker 4>minute you can be feeling awful. So I think there

0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:18.720
<v Speaker 4>are two things, and it is worth going into hospital

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<v Speaker 4>and saying I think I could have sepsis. And that's

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<v Speaker 4>one thing we're trying to promote with World Sepsis Stay

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<v Speaker 4>this time. It's just saying that anyone could have sepsis,

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<v Speaker 4>and if you're thinking about it, make sure the doctors

0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:34.160
<v Speaker 4>and nurses you're talking to are thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Also. Yeah, well I got I got a stomach infection

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of months ago. Now, when I came back

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<v Speaker 2>from Bali and I got tested, and what did they say?

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<v Speaker 3>Ana, My infection with markers were really high.

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<v Speaker 1>I told Matt about how when I had sepsis, my

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<v Speaker 1>infection markers, I think it's called something we're super sky high.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they said I was at risk of getting sepsis.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so I'm guessing here, Matt, it's probably a blood

0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:05.800
<v Speaker 4>test called a CRP.

0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:08.720
<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's it. Yeah, that's out.

0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:12.359
<v Speaker 4>Ringing bells here. So CRP it's a protein that's made

0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:16.600
<v Speaker 4>by our livers, and when we've got any inflammation in

0:20:16.640 --> 0:20:20.680
<v Speaker 4>our bodies, the CRP can go up. So normally, depending

0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:23.720
<v Speaker 4>on which lab you use, it's less than five, but

0:20:23.880 --> 0:20:27.119
<v Speaker 4>in good going setsis it can be one hundred, two hundred,

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<v Speaker 4>three hundred or even higher.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, was like nearly three hundred.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so that's that's that's really high Matt And that

0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:40.800
<v Speaker 4>does mean that all the parts of your immune system

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<v Speaker 4>are really ramped up and there's a lot of inflammation

0:20:43.920 --> 0:20:47.040
<v Speaker 4>in your body, and yeah, that can potentially tip you

0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:50.080
<v Speaker 4>over intercepsis. So that is sort of one of the

0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:52.960
<v Speaker 4>markers we use. But we also it's really important to

0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:55.640
<v Speaker 4>remember that what the patients tell us when they come

0:20:55.680 --> 0:20:58.919
<v Speaker 4>and see us, the messages and the symptoms they give us,

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<v Speaker 4>that can be our early warning sign that this could

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<v Speaker 4>be sepsis.

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<v Speaker 1>If someone's listening to this right now and they want

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<v Speaker 1>to get a feel for what the symptoms or kind

0:21:11.240 --> 0:21:13.600
<v Speaker 1>of red flags that they should be looking out for

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to sepsis, what would you tell them.

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<v Speaker 4>I would go to the Sepsis Australia site and that's

0:21:22.400 --> 0:21:25.879
<v Speaker 4>got a whole heap of information. There's information for health

0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:30.480
<v Speaker 4>professionals and there's information for anyone in the community and

0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:34.320
<v Speaker 4>it talks through things about the symptoms of sepsis. Now,

0:21:34.320 --> 0:21:38.200
<v Speaker 4>the symptoms of sepsis can be very nonspecific and you

0:21:38.240 --> 0:21:40.320
<v Speaker 4>may or may not relate to some of these with

0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:45.720
<v Speaker 4>your episode of sepsis. So you might get fevers, and chills,

0:21:45.920 --> 0:21:49.640
<v Speaker 4>and sometimes people get these things called rigors where they

0:21:49.720 --> 0:21:52.120
<v Speaker 4>just shake and if you look at them, you think

0:21:52.119 --> 0:21:55.520
<v Speaker 4>they're actually having a seizure. They're shaking so much and

0:21:55.600 --> 0:21:58.280
<v Speaker 4>so rhythmically, so that it can be that. You can

0:21:58.320 --> 0:22:01.440
<v Speaker 4>have You can be breathing faster, you can feel your

0:22:01.480 --> 0:22:05.520
<v Speaker 4>heart going faster. You might have diarrheas like.

0:22:05.520 --> 0:22:06.119
<v Speaker 2>A heart attack.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well exactly. You can be drowsy, you can be confused,

0:22:10.200 --> 0:22:12.280
<v Speaker 4>you may not be passing urine. They could all be

0:22:12.440 --> 0:22:16.040
<v Speaker 4>signs of sepsist. So it can be very nonspecific. But

0:22:16.200 --> 0:22:19.000
<v Speaker 4>you don't feel well, you feel sick and Matt, yeah,

0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:21.480
<v Speaker 4>it can be like a heart attack. You're quite right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I was part of the sepsist campaign that's come

0:22:26.000 --> 0:22:28.280
<v Speaker 1>out and I actually got to meet a lot of

0:22:28.400 --> 0:22:31.360
<v Speaker 1>sepsist survivors and I'd never met anyone who had had

0:22:31.400 --> 0:22:34.480
<v Speaker 1>sepsist before, and it was really interesting hearing people's stories

0:22:34.520 --> 0:22:38.520
<v Speaker 1>because there were a lot of similarities. I was in

0:22:38.560 --> 0:22:42.199
<v Speaker 1>the middle of the night, shaking uncontrollably. I went to

0:22:42.240 --> 0:22:44.879
<v Speaker 1>the bathroom and I looked quite blue in the lips

0:22:44.920 --> 0:22:48.000
<v Speaker 1>and mouth area, and a lot of the sepsist survivors

0:22:48.040 --> 0:22:53.120
<v Speaker 1>described similar symptoms and also severe pain. So I mean, yeah,

0:22:53.160 --> 0:22:56.919
<v Speaker 1>it's just interesting to hear. And when you hear people

0:22:56.960 --> 0:22:59.679
<v Speaker 1>tell these stories, it is kind of a reminder and

0:22:59.800 --> 0:23:02.119
<v Speaker 1>if you do get those symptoms, you can kind of

0:23:02.520 --> 0:23:03.600
<v Speaker 1>do something about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. No, no, no exactly. And that's all those stories,

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<v Speaker 4>those commonalities. They're telling you that your immune system has

0:23:10.800 --> 0:23:14.080
<v Speaker 4>ramped up and it's causing this widespread inflammation that's making

0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:18.560
<v Speaker 4>you sick. So you didn't just have a typical UTI

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<v Speaker 4>with there's a bit of burning when you pass urine

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<v Speaker 4>and you're rushing to the toilet a little bit. This

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<v Speaker 4>was a whole heap more.

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<v Speaker 3>You knew something was wrong absolutely, Anna.

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<v Speaker 4>Can I ask did you seek medical attention quickly or

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<v Speaker 4>do you think in retrospect you could have gone earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>Or I think hindsight is twenty twenty and there's definitely

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<v Speaker 1>things that I could have done and taken it more seriously.

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<v Speaker 1>So at the time, Matt and I had a podcast

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<v Speaker 1>live show, so I did a telehealth appointment, didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>my urine tested. That I think was my first problem.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was on the wrong antibiotics, which then led

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<v Speaker 1>it from a UTI into being a kidney infection. I

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<v Speaker 1>then got back from our live show for the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>and was launching a business. So my pain in my

0:24:04.480 --> 0:24:07.240
<v Speaker 1>side was getting progressively worse and worse and worse, and

0:24:07.280 --> 0:24:09.199
<v Speaker 1>I was pushing it to the side. I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>had this mentality of I don't have time.

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<v Speaker 3>To be sick.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm too busy for this. I've got my antibiotics, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be fine. And by the time I did go back

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<v Speaker 1>to the hospital and then they told me you have

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<v Speaker 1>a kidney infection, I got new antibiotics. I went home

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<v Speaker 1>and by that point I was back in hospital a

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<v Speaker 1>few hours later because I was had sepsis.

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<v Speaker 2>Essentially with that be more on the doctor's side testing

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<v Speaker 2>for that, because like, how are you supposed to think

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<v Speaker 2>that you've got sepsis?

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<v Speaker 1>I ignored a lot of symptoms. I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>need to take responsibility.

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<v Speaker 4>No look, no, no, no, certainly, there's no blame involved

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<v Speaker 4>in this. What this is is education to try and

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<v Speaker 4>make sure both sides so that the hospital side, we

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<v Speaker 4>know we're thinking about sepsis, but from the community side,

0:24:57.000 --> 0:24:59.639
<v Speaker 4>the people think they have sepsis and need to go

0:24:59.680 --> 0:25:02.960
<v Speaker 4>hospit go to hospital. So that's what this whole process

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<v Speaker 4>is about. And I think the other thing you've nicely

0:25:06.760 --> 0:25:09.879
<v Speaker 4>illustrated there, Anna is for a lot of now, the

0:25:09.920 --> 0:25:12.520
<v Speaker 4>two of you look like very healthy young people, So

0:25:13.520 --> 0:25:16.840
<v Speaker 4>it's often when you don't have any underlying medical problems

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<v Speaker 4>and you do feel sicker than usual, you think, oh, look,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm healthy and young, it can't be that bad. But

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<v Speaker 4>the reality is anyone can get sepsis. And we've got

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<v Speaker 4>this Sepsist challenge hashtag Sepsis Challenge tongue twister for World

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<v Speaker 4>Sepsis Day, which is, I'm sepsis susceptible and susceptible to sepsis,

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<v Speaker 4>and we're getting lots of different people to say it

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<v Speaker 4>because we want everyone to know out there that anybody

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<v Speaker 4>of any age, gender, etc.

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<v Speaker 1>Can get sepsis absolutely and any infection can lead to sepsis. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it's important. Like you said, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>just an old person's disease. I was thirty one when

0:25:59.280 --> 0:26:03.640
<v Speaker 1>I got it, was very healthy, and yet anyone, anyone

0:26:03.680 --> 0:26:05.240
<v Speaker 1>can get it. Matt, do you want to have a

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<v Speaker 1>go at doing the Sepsist challenge tongue twister three times?

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<v Speaker 3>You can?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I haven't even said sepsis, right chat, So

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I'm going to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>do it three times.

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<v Speaker 4>No pressure, Matty.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's I am, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just susceptible and susceptible to sepsis.

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<v Speaker 3>Three times ago.

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<v Speaker 2>I am sepsis susceptible and suceptible to septis. I am

0:26:32.800 --> 0:26:40.360
<v Speaker 2>sepsis acceptable and sceptible to sepsis is acceptable.

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<v Speaker 4>No, look to be saying it three times in the row.

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<v Speaker 4>It's hard. I wasn't game it is.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't want to give it a go?

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<v Speaker 3>Give it a go, professor j Oh.

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<v Speaker 4>Look, look I'll give it a go. Okay, no judgment here.

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<v Speaker 3>No judgment.

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<v Speaker 2>You couldn't be worse than me.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sepsis susceptible and susceptible de scepsis. I'm sepsis susceptible

0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:09.159
<v Speaker 4>and susceptible decepsis. I'm sepsis susceptible and susceptible decepsis.

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<v Speaker 2>Well done, amazing. I mean, here's a professor, so I

0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:16.600
<v Speaker 2>can see not even that much of a challenge.

0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:17.840
<v Speaker 3>I had a better chance in you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thank you so much, Professor Sanjaya for your insight.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, like we said, spreading awareness is really going

0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:29.600
<v Speaker 1>to help save lives and awareness is key in all

0:27:29.680 --> 0:27:31.600
<v Speaker 1>of this. Do you have a final message that you

0:27:31.640 --> 0:27:33.560
<v Speaker 1>want to leave our listeners with?

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<v Speaker 4>So, I think we've discussed. We've gone over a lot

0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:40.000
<v Speaker 4>of ground today, which is wonderful and I really appreciate

0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:42.679
<v Speaker 4>you having this podcast for World Sepsis Day. I think

0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:46.800
<v Speaker 4>it's wonderful. My messages are as we've said, we are

0:27:46.880 --> 0:27:51.399
<v Speaker 4>all susceptible to sepsis. If you don't know anything about sepsis,

0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:55.480
<v Speaker 4>go to the Sepsis Australia website where you can learn

0:27:55.640 --> 0:27:58.480
<v Speaker 4>all about it. And as you learn all about it,

0:27:58.760 --> 0:28:02.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm guarantee you that we and the healthcare side are

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<v Speaker 4>promoting the message of sepsis. So if you come into

0:28:04.680 --> 0:28:08.280
<v Speaker 4>hospital worried about sepsis, we'll be there to treat you

0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:09.600
<v Speaker 4>quick smart.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for your time. We really appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, professor, and we know you're extremely busy. Thank you, professor.

0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:17.800
<v Speaker 4>Thanks, it was lovely to meet you.

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<v Speaker 2>Bus Well. That was very interesting Anna to talk to

0:28:23.760 --> 0:28:26.840
<v Speaker 2>the professor about sepsis. Am I saying that right, I

0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:30.280
<v Speaker 2>know I didn't get that tongue sepsis. I hope we'll

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:34.359
<v Speaker 2>post some links on our socials on the Facebook page

0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:35.800
<v Speaker 2>and on the way as you had at so people

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:38.480
<v Speaker 2>know what to look out for. Very fascinating.

0:28:38.680 --> 0:28:40.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was really interesting. I feel like I learned

0:28:40.880 --> 0:28:43.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot. I'm obviously a Sepsus ambassador and I feel

0:28:43.360 --> 0:28:45.680
<v Speaker 1>like talking to him it was just so insightful and

0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:49.800
<v Speaker 1>I think that we can definitely take on what he's saying,

0:28:49.880 --> 0:28:53.920
<v Speaker 1>and I think spreading awareness is key. So really enjoyed

0:28:53.960 --> 0:28:54.880
<v Speaker 1>that interview, Matt.

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<v Speaker 2>It was very good. All right, let's call it a daana.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all we've got time for. I'm in Melbourne Monday,

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<v Speaker 2>so we've got some records then, so get excited people,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll be.

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<v Speaker 3>Back together again. All right, Okay, that until next time.

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<v Speaker 2>Bye,