1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:07,281 Speaker 1: Appogiate production. 2 00:00:22,721 --> 00:00:26,361 Speaker 2: Welcome back to am I Mad MoMA podcast, and we're 3 00:00:26,401 --> 00:00:28,241 Speaker 2: going to have a week off next week. 4 00:00:28,481 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: We are our holidays. Well for some of us, it's holidays. 5 00:00:32,881 --> 00:00:36,201 Speaker 1: You're jetting off. I am lucky enough to be jetting 6 00:00:36,241 --> 00:00:41,241 Speaker 1: off to another dance competition following them dance comp I've 7 00:00:41,241 --> 00:00:44,281 Speaker 1: got a netball competition for three days. I want to say, 8 00:00:44,321 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: I've got I'm not playing. I'm sitting on the sideline 9 00:00:46,681 --> 00:00:48,401 Speaker 1: watching for three days straight. 10 00:00:48,561 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 2: You're the chauffeur in Ipswich, Ipswich ips rich lovely. 11 00:00:52,361 --> 00:00:53,361 Speaker 3: What do I do there? 12 00:00:53,601 --> 00:00:55,761 Speaker 1: I was like, do I just get accommodation? And I 13 00:00:55,801 --> 00:00:57,841 Speaker 1: was like in Ipswich, I was like, where am I 14 00:00:57,881 --> 00:01:00,361 Speaker 1: going to stay? And then I thought, I don't have 15 00:01:00,401 --> 00:01:01,721 Speaker 1: a clue. I'm not I'm not gonna go to your 16 00:01:01,761 --> 00:01:03,121 Speaker 1: way to start, So I'm just going to drive there 17 00:01:03,161 --> 00:01:05,041 Speaker 1: and drive home, drive there and drive home three days 18 00:01:05,281 --> 00:01:05,761 Speaker 1: in a row. 19 00:01:07,081 --> 00:01:07,721 Speaker 3: Wonderful. 20 00:01:07,961 --> 00:01:09,121 Speaker 2: Must be somewhere closer. 21 00:01:09,161 --> 00:01:11,041 Speaker 3: You can say hashtag blessed. 22 00:01:11,441 --> 00:01:22,681 Speaker 4: Yeah, live in the dream. 23 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: Am I a bad mom for keeping it to myself? 24 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,801 Speaker 1: This is going to be a rough one because I 25 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,761 Speaker 1: really want to bring it up with you because it's 26 00:01:32,761 --> 00:01:35,761 Speaker 1: a topic of conversation right now in our household, and 27 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: I'm toying with like the option of going away for 28 00:01:41,121 --> 00:01:42,321 Speaker 1: holidays in the next. 29 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,241 Speaker 2: Holidays, right Christmas holidays. 30 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, Christmas holidays. 31 00:01:46,681 --> 00:01:49,161 Speaker 1: But the other part, Katie, is when I tell my 32 00:01:49,321 --> 00:01:51,161 Speaker 1: kids something, it doesn't stop. 33 00:01:51,241 --> 00:01:53,521 Speaker 3: Do this will give you, like a good flashback to 34 00:01:53,601 --> 00:01:54,121 Speaker 3: you girls. 35 00:01:54,161 --> 00:01:56,841 Speaker 1: Being my girl's age, my girls are ten and twelve, 36 00:01:57,201 --> 00:02:00,361 Speaker 1: I tend to hold off on telling them things until 37 00:02:00,441 --> 00:02:01,121 Speaker 1: the day of. 38 00:02:01,561 --> 00:02:04,121 Speaker 2: Yeah, or until it's definite and it's locked in. 39 00:02:04,121 --> 00:02:07,561 Speaker 1: Well no, no, on the day, I don't want to 40 00:02:07,601 --> 00:02:10,001 Speaker 1: hear the lead up for the whole week because they're 41 00:02:10,041 --> 00:02:13,121 Speaker 1: going to have a sleepover at their friend's house. I 42 00:02:13,121 --> 00:02:16,081 Speaker 1: don't want to hear about the reminder every single day 43 00:02:16,401 --> 00:02:18,721 Speaker 1: of the seven days before the sleepover. 44 00:02:19,161 --> 00:02:21,041 Speaker 3: So I learned this early that my. 45 00:02:21,041 --> 00:02:25,681 Speaker 1: Girls are quite like excitable by this, and so I've 46 00:02:25,761 --> 00:02:28,761 Speaker 1: tended to leave things to the last minute. I mean, 47 00:02:28,921 --> 00:02:32,841 Speaker 1: flashback to the start of the year when Sam, their 48 00:02:33,041 --> 00:02:35,841 Speaker 1: father was lucky enough to go into the jungle for 49 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:37,441 Speaker 1: like what seven weeks or whatever. 50 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,361 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a celebrity, give me out. 51 00:02:39,441 --> 00:02:41,641 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a celeb Get me out of here, won it. 52 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 3: He's now the King. 53 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,441 Speaker 1: Of the Jungle for this year, only I didn't tell 54 00:02:45,481 --> 00:02:47,721 Speaker 1: them A that he was going to Africa. 55 00:02:48,321 --> 00:02:53,041 Speaker 3: B he was going to be away seven weeks. And see, 56 00:02:53,081 --> 00:02:53,881 Speaker 3: I just told them. 57 00:02:53,721 --> 00:02:56,881 Speaker 2: That he was in Sydney, right Sydney. But you weren't 58 00:02:56,921 --> 00:02:57,921 Speaker 2: able to tell them? 59 00:02:58,081 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 3: No, Well, yeah, there was a lot of things around it. 60 00:03:00,321 --> 00:03:02,041 Speaker 2: The problem was, first of all, it was supposed to 61 00:03:02,081 --> 00:03:05,321 Speaker 2: be kept under wraps, and secondly the kids and they're 62 00:03:05,321 --> 00:03:06,201 Speaker 2: going to slip. 63 00:03:06,001 --> 00:03:08,761 Speaker 3: Up and tell someone yeah yeah, yeah, so like even that. 64 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,841 Speaker 1: So then they learnt of that as they saw the 65 00:03:11,921 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: episode air like everyone else at the same time. Whether 66 00:03:16,321 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: that make me a good mom or a bad mum, 67 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: I have no fucking idea. 68 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:20,481 Speaker 3: But now I. 69 00:03:20,481 --> 00:03:23,041 Speaker 1: Fast forward and go, I've got like this idea of 70 00:03:23,081 --> 00:03:27,601 Speaker 1: a holiday might come off, might not come off if 71 00:03:27,641 --> 00:03:31,041 Speaker 1: I actually apply myself and make it happen. But I 72 00:03:31,081 --> 00:03:33,041 Speaker 1: just don't know what to do with the kids because 73 00:03:33,081 --> 00:03:35,441 Speaker 1: if I tell them there's a lot of time between 74 00:03:35,441 --> 00:03:38,881 Speaker 1: now and Christmas of listening. 75 00:03:38,721 --> 00:03:41,361 Speaker 3: To all of the what ifs. 76 00:03:40,921 --> 00:03:44,361 Speaker 2: Maybe you wait a little bit, because at the moment 77 00:03:44,481 --> 00:03:47,681 Speaker 2: Christmas seems a million miles away from kids. But even 78 00:03:47,721 --> 00:03:51,201 Speaker 2: if it was after this school holidays and in the 79 00:03:51,241 --> 00:03:52,361 Speaker 2: next school term. 80 00:03:52,481 --> 00:03:53,321 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's. 81 00:03:53,161 --> 00:03:55,601 Speaker 2: Something to look forward to at the end of the term. 82 00:03:55,801 --> 00:03:59,481 Speaker 2: Maybe give them a couple of weeks notice, yeah, like 83 00:03:59,521 --> 00:04:00,361 Speaker 2: this will be excited. 84 00:04:00,441 --> 00:04:02,321 Speaker 3: Yeah. I was like, I still want them to be excited. 85 00:04:02,801 --> 00:04:04,641 Speaker 1: I also want it, like, if it does come off, 86 00:04:04,681 --> 00:04:07,401 Speaker 1: I want to to be like someone of a Christmas present. 87 00:04:07,201 --> 00:04:08,081 Speaker 3: Because you know. 88 00:04:08,561 --> 00:04:11,241 Speaker 1: And the other part is there's no way I could 89 00:04:11,281 --> 00:04:15,641 Speaker 1: surprise them with this one. I've genuinely in my mind gone, 90 00:04:16,081 --> 00:04:20,241 Speaker 1: what if I surprised them down to the day that 91 00:04:20,281 --> 00:04:20,721 Speaker 1: we leave. 92 00:04:22,201 --> 00:04:23,201 Speaker 3: Yeah, I me do that. 93 00:04:23,561 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 2: No, I feel like it would be quite stressful because 94 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,601 Speaker 2: I do things like before I go away, like the 95 00:04:28,641 --> 00:04:30,681 Speaker 2: house to be tidy, and I'm like the amount of 96 00:04:30,681 --> 00:04:33,001 Speaker 2: times I'm like, please leave it tidy because it would 97 00:04:33,001 --> 00:04:33,361 Speaker 2: be nicer. 98 00:04:33,561 --> 00:04:35,161 Speaker 3: Yeah, back peah blah blah blah. 99 00:04:35,281 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 2: Or if someone's house sitting. 100 00:04:36,801 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's the pair or whatever. 101 00:04:39,041 --> 00:04:42,161 Speaker 2: I would find it hard not to say anything. This 102 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,521 Speaker 2: is completely sideways. But would you tell your kids if 103 00:04:45,561 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: you won lotto? 104 00:04:46,601 --> 00:04:49,721 Speaker 3: No? No, I wouldn't. Would you do about that, No, 105 00:04:49,801 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 3: I wouldn't. 106 00:04:50,641 --> 00:04:54,481 Speaker 1: We've spoken previously on a podcast about how you're tightening 107 00:04:54,521 --> 00:04:57,401 Speaker 1: the purse strings. Could you imagine how your daughters would 108 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,241 Speaker 1: react if you won lotto. Now you'd be buying every 109 00:05:00,281 --> 00:05:02,601 Speaker 1: fucking concert. You wouldn't be just letting them go to 110 00:05:02,641 --> 00:05:04,961 Speaker 1: the concert. V up, You'd be buying the concert. 111 00:05:05,161 --> 00:05:07,641 Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't, though, Like I remember reading something about 112 00:05:07,681 --> 00:05:10,161 Speaker 2: Victoria Beckham and they made all their kids get part 113 00:05:10,161 --> 00:05:12,441 Speaker 2: time jobs when they were still at school. 114 00:05:12,561 --> 00:05:13,881 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I. 115 00:05:13,801 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 2: Thought that was pretty good, but also pretty pointless about 116 00:05:17,241 --> 00:05:21,881 Speaker 2: to inherit like a millions. But how would you not 117 00:05:22,161 --> 00:05:22,881 Speaker 2: tell them though? 118 00:05:23,041 --> 00:05:23,161 Speaker 1: Like? 119 00:05:23,241 --> 00:05:24,401 Speaker 2: How would you hide it? 120 00:05:24,481 --> 00:05:24,841 Speaker 3: Oh? 121 00:05:24,921 --> 00:05:27,721 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're moving house. Oh business is going well. As 122 00:05:27,761 --> 00:05:32,801 Speaker 2: you pull out the driveway in your Ferrari, they will 123 00:05:32,841 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: know something's up when I don't bang on about the 124 00:05:35,561 --> 00:05:38,641 Speaker 2: water bill every time they have a shower. Honestly, rage 125 00:05:38,641 --> 00:05:41,481 Speaker 2: I reckon. I timed a twenty minute shower the other day. 126 00:05:41,921 --> 00:05:43,801 Speaker 3: Why does it just keep getting longer? What are they 127 00:05:43,841 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 3: fucking doing in there? 128 00:05:45,241 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: My child is exactly the same, and she's ten, And 129 00:05:49,641 --> 00:05:52,841 Speaker 1: I blame it on my seventy two dollars mirror that 130 00:05:52,921 --> 00:05:57,041 Speaker 1: I bought for her room from Kmart, because ever since 131 00:05:57,041 --> 00:06:00,401 Speaker 1: I've put that in her room, she's been obsessed. And 132 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,601 Speaker 1: now she's obsessed. And now the obsession has gone to 133 00:06:03,641 --> 00:06:08,521 Speaker 1: the mirror in the bathroom and then every shower every 134 00:06:08,921 --> 00:06:11,721 Speaker 1: night takes at least fifteen to thirty minutes. 135 00:06:11,841 --> 00:06:14,401 Speaker 2: Yeah, and how many different products does she already have? 136 00:06:14,641 --> 00:06:18,521 Speaker 3: No? No, she's the Oh she will. I know, Katie. 137 00:06:18,961 --> 00:06:22,481 Speaker 1: I literally went up there last night and was like, Hey, 138 00:06:22,961 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: just a heads up, we're running late tonight. Like so 139 00:06:26,281 --> 00:06:28,801 Speaker 1: there's like usually like if I've got dinner after seven 140 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:30,881 Speaker 1: for me, that's late, right, But I was. 141 00:06:30,841 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 3: Like, it's late. 142 00:06:32,121 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: You wanted to watch some of the block. I'm giving 143 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: you your heads up that you've literally got like thirty 144 00:06:37,361 --> 00:06:40,081 Speaker 1: minutes to be able to finish your shower. 145 00:06:40,401 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 3: Up. Now, what are you doing? Why are you out 146 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:44,361 Speaker 3: of the water? 147 00:06:44,561 --> 00:06:47,521 Speaker 1: Are you brushing your hair outside of the shower area 148 00:06:47,641 --> 00:06:49,001 Speaker 1: with the water still running? 149 00:06:49,361 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 3: What are you doing? 150 00:06:50,601 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: The switching the shower on and then seeing them just 151 00:06:54,481 --> 00:06:57,481 Speaker 2: standing in the bathroom on their phone whilst the shower 152 00:06:57,521 --> 00:07:00,481 Speaker 2: is running. Oh, I cannot cope with it. 153 00:07:00,601 --> 00:07:02,521 Speaker 3: I don't use the financial thing like you do. 154 00:07:02,601 --> 00:07:04,601 Speaker 1: But I'm just at that point, k Arou, I'm like, 155 00:07:04,681 --> 00:07:08,881 Speaker 1: what I've done, I've created a monster. And Gracie, i 156 00:07:08,921 --> 00:07:12,681 Speaker 1: have to say, is as bad. But she's a little 157 00:07:12,681 --> 00:07:16,121 Speaker 1: bit more like quicker in the shower. She's just found 158 00:07:16,161 --> 00:07:19,361 Speaker 1: a way of like maybe it's about school, I reckon. 159 00:07:19,401 --> 00:07:22,681 Speaker 1: Since she's gone and started high school, she's worked out 160 00:07:22,681 --> 00:07:24,961 Speaker 1: a little bit better of her timing of like how 161 00:07:25,001 --> 00:07:26,961 Speaker 1: much time in the shower to like how much time 162 00:07:26,961 --> 00:07:28,601 Speaker 1: I need in a mirror and to then be able 163 00:07:28,601 --> 00:07:30,561 Speaker 1: to still have breakfast and get out the door. She's 164 00:07:30,601 --> 00:07:33,041 Speaker 1: worked that out a little bit better. Still leaves the 165 00:07:33,081 --> 00:07:34,201 Speaker 1: place of fucking mess. 166 00:07:34,681 --> 00:07:37,081 Speaker 2: I said the other day to the girls. I was like, 167 00:07:37,561 --> 00:07:40,561 Speaker 2: imagine if you had your money in coins in your 168 00:07:40,641 --> 00:07:42,841 Speaker 2: hands and then you look at the drain and you 169 00:07:42,881 --> 00:07:46,961 Speaker 2: watch the water go down. You go one dollar, two dollars, 170 00:07:47,321 --> 00:07:51,241 Speaker 2: three dollars, and I'm going to start taking that out 171 00:07:51,281 --> 00:07:54,081 Speaker 2: of your bank account. Oh great job. You did a 172 00:07:54,121 --> 00:07:56,601 Speaker 2: whole shift at macis and guess what you get a shower? 173 00:07:59,601 --> 00:08:00,841 Speaker 3: How do you come up with this? 174 00:08:02,201 --> 00:08:04,801 Speaker 2: Quite creative, very creative. 175 00:08:05,321 --> 00:08:08,681 Speaker 1: I would not find the creative part of that quick 176 00:08:08,841 --> 00:08:10,681 Speaker 1: like witch, I just stand there. 177 00:08:10,601 --> 00:08:13,561 Speaker 3: And just get the fuck out. Let's get out. 178 00:08:14,081 --> 00:08:17,921 Speaker 2: I hate to think of when they're older and the 179 00:08:18,361 --> 00:08:21,401 Speaker 2: kind of work they do on trauma or like, I 180 00:08:21,521 --> 00:08:23,641 Speaker 2: hate to think of what I don't think about out 181 00:08:23,681 --> 00:08:25,161 Speaker 2: about what Mum used to say. 182 00:08:25,401 --> 00:08:27,521 Speaker 3: Don't think about it, because ours didn't think about it. 183 00:08:28,081 --> 00:08:30,161 Speaker 3: Our parents didn't think about it. They just carried on. 184 00:08:30,441 --> 00:08:33,281 Speaker 1: They just played on, play out, and we let them 185 00:08:33,441 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: carry their trauma out