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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Fitz and Whipper podcast.

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Speaker 2: This guy is a trooper, never sleeps, and he's here.

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Speaker 2: There's a new drink Wise campaign targeting parents of teenagers,

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Speaker 2: and we need to speak to the great man himself,

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Speaker 2: doctor Andrew Rudford.

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Speaker 3: Guys, did you morning?

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Speaker 1: Did you get up.

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Speaker 3: For you sleep? I just stay away between World Cup

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Speaker 3: wait for it to come around.

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Speaker 2: Wow, what a commitment you would have. You would have

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Speaker 2: gone alright, soccer back in the day with a very

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Speaker 2: tall man in the box, they're scoring goals, headers through

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Speaker 2: to the was.

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Speaker 3: At the other end. Mate, gloves on? You love? I

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Speaker 3: love goalkeeping? Did you real, Maddie Ryan, that's a good job. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god. He's having a great World Cup, isn't he.

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Speaker 1: You don't need the fitness to be a goalie, do you?

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Speaker 1: I mean really, we watching the other day as if

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Speaker 1: I put on the gloves, I reckon I could block

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Speaker 1: a goal better than some.

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Speaker 3: Of the Oh my god, kick it straight up.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I don't have to move.

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Speaker 3: I've been fine.

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Speaker 2: You're not getting past the big fellow. Hey, Rich, this

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Speaker 2: is this is a very important campaign drink Wise and

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Speaker 2: obviously with school he's going on at the moment and

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Speaker 2: leading up to holidays and stuff like this. You're very

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Speaker 2: passionate about this.

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Speaker 3: Rich Yeah, well, I mean this has been something I've

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Speaker 3: been a part of drink wise now since my little

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Speaker 3: people were like three and four, and it was all

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Speaker 3: about you know, what type would be damply is setting

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Speaker 3: for your children with alcohol and you know, how can

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Speaker 3: you make sure that they're responsible with alcohol in the future. Now,

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Speaker 3: you know, Archie sixteen, we're now getting to the point

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Speaker 3: where you're having those tough conversations about, you know, when

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Speaker 3: to start the parental provision of alcohol and are actually

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Speaker 3: showing that the majority of us aren't supplying alcohol to

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Speaker 3: our children. The really good news is the majority of kids,

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Speaker 3: especially teenagers, are abstaining from alcohol for longer, and the

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Speaker 3: research just shows that's better for you. The longer the

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Speaker 3: kid can abstain, the better it is for their developments.

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Speaker 4: What kind of example do you reckon? We're setting at home?

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Speaker 4: So yesterday my husband came home and our three and

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Speaker 4: a half year old said, hang on, daddy, let me

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Speaker 4: get you a bitch afore he started sitting down to

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Speaker 4: relax into that. Is that sort of thing troubling?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, the research shows, and I think it's a

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Speaker 3: really simple way of putting it is is children learn

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Speaker 3: everything from what you see the example that you're setting.

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Speaker 3: So they learn how to walk because they see you walk.

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Speaker 3: They you know, if anyone's ever been in the car

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Speaker 3: and you hear from the backseat that first ever swear word,

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Speaker 3: they haven't just they picked that up. They've seen that

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Speaker 3: from you doing it in a bit of a traffic

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Speaker 3: When you get cut off and alcohol is the same,

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Speaker 3: you have to set that example and have a relationship

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Speaker 3: with alcohol. That means it's the type of relationship you

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Speaker 3: want child to have you in the future. And I

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Speaker 3: think that that comes down to, you know, really they

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Speaker 3: don't necessarily need to know about alcohol until late in life,

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Speaker 3: and trying to keep it sort of separate from them

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Speaker 3: until you get to that point where you're having those conversations.

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Speaker 3: For me and for us in our house, it's always

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Speaker 3: been about talking about it. It's always about communicating, making

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Speaker 3: sure any questions they've got they they can ask you

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Speaker 3: and not feel like it's something that's too taboo that

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Speaker 3: they're going to sort of scurry away and do it

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Speaker 3: without really having those open minds of communication.

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Speaker 1: R's The other one we were talking before is you know,

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Speaker 1: there were people like myself who developed very early, which

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Speaker 1: very old for my age. It's like a gorilla going

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Speaker 1: in there. They never questioned it, and that's something where

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Speaker 1: there's a responsibility that needs a bit of education, because

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Speaker 1: you know, I would buy grog for everybody, and I

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Speaker 1: didn't know what they were going to do with that,

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Speaker 1: did I?

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Speaker 3: No? And I mean that's a risk. That's obviously a

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Speaker 3: risk for you, it's a risk for parents that are

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Speaker 3: supplying it. And I think that's where it really comes

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Speaker 3: down to making sure that you're having those conversations with

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Speaker 3: your child. And so you know, I've always worked on

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Speaker 3: the theory that you the role of a parent is

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Speaker 3: to make your child a good decision maker. You're never

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Speaker 3: going to be there all the time. At some point,

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Speaker 3: alcohol involved or drugs. At that point, you want to

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Speaker 3: And I think that that's where you drink wise is

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Speaker 3: encouraged just this communication. There's lots. I mean, it's not

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Speaker 3: they're not easy conversation. They're on drink wise dot or

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Speaker 3: got you the website there, just to try to help

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Speaker 3: you navigate that so that you know if they do.

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Speaker 3: Also if you, if you're a parent with a manchild

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Speaker 3: like your parents.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's talking to them about those griss.

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Speaker 1: My dad, which was really weird back.

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Speaker 3: Then, but also about their brain and how important it

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Speaker 3: is for developing brain to not have alcohol, because we

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Speaker 3: know that it doesn't stop developing until they get their

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Speaker 3: twenty and so that decision making area is still going on.

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Speaker 3: And although you may have developed early from a physical

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Speaker 3: point of view with the brain, the brain still developing,

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Speaker 3: you know, it was still I mean, it still is

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Speaker 3: just warming up, brain warming up.

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Speaker 2: Rochi. Right, Can we just move on just quickly? We

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Speaker 2: at the peak at the moment with COVID leading up

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Speaker 2: the Christmas rights. Where are we at?

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Speaker 3: Look, I think we're in that place where we'll be

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Speaker 3: for a few years now where we see these sort

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Speaker 3: little bit like, oh, you know, I'm sick of talking

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Speaker 3: about COVID. I don't want to have my boosters and

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Speaker 3: I'm just going to get on with life. We'll see it,

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Speaker 3: We'll see it, you know, like we do with influenza.

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Speaker 3: We'll see a peace, will see waves that it come through,

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Speaker 3: and then people start to realize we'll hang on a

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Speaker 3: sec I should probably stay at home when I'm sick,

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Speaker 3: and I should get my boosters, and I should do

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Speaker 3: all the simple things like what my hand. We'll see

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Speaker 3: the numbers come back down, and then you know, invariably

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Speaker 3: there will be another variant that comes along and it'll

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Speaker 3: where it really comes down to that personal responsibility. Stay

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Speaker 3: the simple things, and keep up with your boosters, and

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Speaker 3: then we don't have, you know, as many headlines scaring

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Speaker 3: us all that might not be as fun as we

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Speaker 3: get to have fun?

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Speaker 2: Is it out of control at the moment though, right

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Speaker 2: I'm everywhere I've been hearing that we are at the

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Speaker 2: bit for Christmas. So you're just saying, at the moment,

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Speaker 2: just to wear our masks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if you want to protect yourself. And

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Speaker 3: I have just come off the back of having COVID

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Speaker 3: didn't have it in the early stages. I had all

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Speaker 3: my booths, I had four boosters, and I traveled the

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Speaker 3: other day, I was in Indonesia, came back and I

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Speaker 3: had COVID and it was one of those things for

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Speaker 3: me that was like, well, I've been talking about it's

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Speaker 3: been out two and a half years and to actually experience,

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Speaker 3: I can understand why you should be doing everything you

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Speaker 3: whether and that means wearing a mask, that means you know, washing,

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Speaker 3: And because it's not just about what we know that

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Speaker 3: it does now. And yes, we are seeing a people,

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Speaker 3: we're seeing more of it in the community, which means

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Speaker 3: you're at higher risk of getting it. We don't know

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Speaker 3: what this means for us in the future, how long

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Speaker 3: COVID going to impact us, and especially the vulnerable, and

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Speaker 3: that's what this is all about, making sure we're keeping

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Speaker 3: our hospitals efficient, not just for those that have got COVID,

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Speaker 3: but for other problems around the Christmas period, heart attacks

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Speaker 3: and accidents. We've got to keep people out of hospital.

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Speaker 3: So you know, I encourage people to get well done.

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Speaker 2: You're a really good kid, mate. You in the industry,

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Speaker 2: in the industry, you're You're a lovely man, A long

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Speaker 2: way from the block and I have recommended you to

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Speaker 2: a lot of my friends. So well done on your.

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Speaker 1: Line, Sarah was very disappointing. It didn't come in in person.

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Speaker 1: They we miss you, right, Sarah.

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Speaker 3: I miss I miss you guys as well. But you

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Speaker 3: know you guys make sure that we'll make sure that

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Speaker 3: I'll be there as soon as you beautiful.

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Speaker 1: You're a lovely man.

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Speaker 2: You're a lovely man and your parents would be really proud.

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Speaker 3: How much is.

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Speaker 1: Extend consultations?

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