WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 2 September 0:00:03.400 --> 0:00:06.040 Welcome to the late base. 0:00:08.080 --> 0:00:08.720 Well, good evening. 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:11.400 I'm James Macpherson with Liz Storer and Caleb Bond. 0:00:11.480 --> 0:00:12.000 Coming up. 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:15.040 A British public servant who left top secret documents at 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:19.040 a bus stop is appointed to help review British defenses. 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:20.400 We'll get to that a little later. 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:25.040 Plus, when we look at the papers, scyrotting skyrocketing compensation 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:30.480 claims for teachers having been assaulted by students, and the 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:34.640 Defense Force saves almost half a billion dollars by getting 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:36.120 rid of consultants. 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:36.960 Can you believe it. 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:38.720 We'll get to that when we look at the papers 0:00:38.800 --> 0:00:42.479 a little later. But first, falling fertility rates are a 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:46.800 problem right around the western world, but particularly in Tasmania. 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:50.360 As the old adage goes, demography is destiny. And if 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:53.400 that holds true, well Tasmania doesn't have much of a 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:55.959 future unless couples start having children. 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:56.560 Now. 0:00:56.600 --> 0:00:59.040 To maintain a population, they say, you've got to have 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:02.840 a fertility eight of two point one children for every 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:05.440 child bearing woman. But have a look at what's happening 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:08.600 in Tasmania, where the Hobart Mercury reports that there could 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:13.360 be severe consequences because of the low birth rate. The 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:18.000 demographer doctor Lisa Denny is quoted saying that she used 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:22.200 population data from the Australian Bureau Statistics to calculate trends 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:25.720 in the total fertility rate in Tasmania, finding it's plummeted 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:28.560 from one point six to eight children per woman in 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:32.120 twenty eighteen to one point four to nine in twenty 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:35.679 twenty four. It was back in two thousand and six 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:39.160 that the state last had a fertility rate that was 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:43.200 the equivalent to maintaining the population now. She does go 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:46.400 on to say that there are unique circumstances in Tasmania 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:49.880 that are contributing that. She says our fertility rate has 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:53.720 dropped considerably because a much larger proportion of our child 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:57.560 bearing population is made up of temporary migrants compared with 0:01:57.640 --> 0:01:59.800 the rest of the country. And the women of rep 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:03.400 deductive age that leave Tasmania aren't temporary migrants, so they're 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:04.680 taking their future. 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:06.160 Children with them. 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:09.360 But the fertility rate in Tasmania, well it's one point four, 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:12.720 is only one point seven nationally, So this is not 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:16.360 just a Tasmania problem. It's Australia wide, and indeed it's 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:20.239 a problem right around the Western world. Lives our politicians 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:23.680 love to talk about sustainability. Ah, but if you're not 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:27.520 having children, well nothing is sustainable. 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:30.960 Absolutely, And this is a massive problem, not just Australia wide, 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:35.720 but literally throughout the Western world. And it's really hard 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:40.160 not to lean into the plagued with problems the great 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:45.280 replacement theory when you notice that every single one of 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:48.760 these Western governments is doing absolutely nothing about it. 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:50.040 They don't care. 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:53.560 We'll just plug the gap with more and more and 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:54.679 more immigration. 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:57.400 I mean, there's so much governments can. 0:02:57.280 --> 0:03:03.200 Do to make it more affordable for families to have families, 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:07.320 and they're doing absolutely nothing. There are small countries like 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:12.079 Hungry massive tax breaks for families who choose to have children, 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:14.520 and the more children you have, the more tax breaks 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:19.560 you get, subsidized mortgages like these guys have stacked up 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:23.359 incentives because they care about their culture and they want 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:26.440 to keep Hungry hungry. But then you look at the 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:31.240 societal issues that surround this. Little boys and girls aren't 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:34.000 taught to aspire to having a family one day. 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:36.560 They used to. Generation's gone past. 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:38.960 You ask any little boy or girl that was their 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:41.760 game plan. These days, you ask any little boy or girl, 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:44.880 and our poor kids are just stuck there going, well, 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:46.600 you just told me that just because I have a 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:48.920 penis doesn't even mean I'm a boy. I'm a little 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:51.280 bit concerned with that right now. I've got other things 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:54.760 on my mind. Marriage is no longer held up as 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:58.480 this societal good that all the stats bear out that 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:01.600 it is women aren't meeting men who want to settle 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:04.120 down and have a family, and vice versa. 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:06.080 I'm not paying out on the men here. 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:10.640 The war on the nuclear family is multifaceted. 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:12.720 In today's day and age. 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:17.800 We no longer have governments or even institutions that uphold 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:20.279 the sanctity of the family and how this is something 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:22.039 awesome and to be aspired to. 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:25.320 And then we've got anxiety and depression. 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:29.440 Never been worse, loneliness never been worse in today's society, 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:33.760 and people who aren't doing okay are less likely to 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:38.159 meet each meet each other rather couple up and create 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:41.039 a family of their own. But again, governments seem to 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:45.640 be doing absolutely nothing about it, and that is what 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:48.280 is concerning. I mean, you've got we were talking about 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:51.600 a Japanese at the other day that the government was 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:56.000 getting behind this and being like ladies, gents, you want 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:59.400 a dating app where we vet the people and make 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:02.000 sure that they not lying about their income and how 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:05.279 eligible they are. We're taking up your cause for you 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:09.000 because Japan is incredibly Some would say racist. 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:11.280 I just say based, because that. 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:15.400 Is another country who we want to keep Japan Japanese and. 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:17.800 We're going to do what it takes in. 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:23.360 Today's demographics to make that happen. Western governments, No, I'm 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:24.080 not seeing it happen. 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:26.680 I'm not sure I want a government chosen partner. 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:26.520 Though. 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:32.200 Chinese they're well, I think. 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:35.000 Look, I mean, can you imagine Anthony Albanezi playing Cuba 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:35.320 for you? 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:37.120 Good heavens, I don't know that I'd want to get 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:38.640 in on that. I think. 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:41.839 I think what this probably proves is that Tasmania needs 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:43.800 to invest in groundbreaking. 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:45.040 Surgery, because of course all those two. 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:48.360 Headed Tasmanians now need to be split into two individual 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:51.800 people in order to fix the population crisis. It's a joke, 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:54.719 don't writing. You know, it's as old as time. But 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:59.120 Tasmania is a microcosm here of what the rest of 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:02.520 Australia is experiencing. Because what you've had in Tasmania is 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:06.240 particularly during COVID, when people worked out that they could 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:08.479 work from home. They went, well, geez, I don't have 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:12.080 to live in Melbourne or Sydney or whatever anymore. Hobart 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:14.560 sounds quite nice. So a lot of people who've either 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:17.760 had kids and have some disposable income all moved down 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:20.280 to Hobart. You know, they fly up once a month 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:22.040 or something to go to a meeting, but they now 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:25.560 live down there and work remotely. Consequently, the housing prices 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:27.839 in Tasmania went through the roof because all these yuppies 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:29.559 came in and took over the joints. 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:31.159 Of course, that drives people out. 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:35.800 People who are seeking more work opportunities are clearly leaving Tasmania, 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:38.599 and that's what the researcher is talking about. The women 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:42.599 of childbearing age are leaving Tasmania and going elsewhere. Presumably 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:44.120 they're going to the mainland. 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:45.640 So they have to plug these holes. 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:49.680 Some probably to find it maybe, but largely the way 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:52.840 they're plugging the holes is with temporary migrants because of 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:56.279 because if you are a potential permanent margrant again, you 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:58.520 come to Australia and you want to go to Melbourne 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:01.240 or Sydney because that's where to the jobs are so 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:04.919 they're just pumping in people, filling holes, plugging holes for 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:07.720 now until they leave, and then they bring more in 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:10.200 to plug the holes. And you think, well, that's bad 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:12.760 for Tazzy right now because they're a small little state, 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:16.400 But it's not long before that becomes the rest of 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:19.920 Australia and it becomes the rest of the Western world. 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:22.559 You can only bring in so many permanent migrants before 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:24.320 there are all the other holes that you then have 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:25.920 to fill in with temporary ones, and on and on 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:26.600 it goes forever. 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:29.200 What amazes me about this issue is that the. 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:32.760 Left aren't more passionate about doing something to get the 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:36.720 fertility rate up, because if you're importing your population, you're 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:39.720 importing them from countries where they have a high fertility rate, 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:43.720 and they are typically Islamic countries. So the more Muslim 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:46.760 a country becomes, the less like it used to be. 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:49.880 So if you care about abortion, you care about gay rights, 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:53.000 you care about feminism, then you want to make sure 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:56.200 that your country is producing its own people rather than 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:57.680 importing people with diat. 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:02.400 Watch the West exactly care they like. 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:06.040 And give him way too much credit. 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:07.080 You're trying to give them a hint. 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:08.280 And if There's one. 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:10.240 Thing we know is that they have no regard for 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:12.640 human life whatsoever. In fact, they prefer there were fewer 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:14.960 humans on the face of the earth because of course 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:15.600 climate change. 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:17.040 Us humans, we're destroying the joint. 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:19.640 That's why they want a lower population. That's why they're 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:22.080 not worried about the fertility rate. And it's also why 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:24.040 they want you to be eaten by a shark. No, 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:27.960 I'm not joking. It is a discussion that comes up 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:28.960 every single year. 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:29.920 But it's weird. 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:32.760 It's ugly head again, this hoary old chestnut. Thanks to 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:36.200 the Guardian stoking the coals of this fire. Though there 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:38.480 wouldn't be much far underwater. It has to be said 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:41.720 that we should get rid of shark nets in New 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:46.000 South Wales. They write up today that in an eight 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:49.680 month period covering twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four, 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:53.640 there we'll wait for it, one hundred and thirty four 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:56.400 animals killed by shark nets. 0:08:56.559 --> 0:08:59.319 Don't worry about all the people who. 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:02.440 Might have been so by sharks that otherwise would have 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:05.720 come on to beaches. No, we have to treat marine 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:09.280 life as though it is more important than human life. 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:12.280 We know that they think everyone else's life is more 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:16.000 important than ours. Shark scientist who is part of the 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:20.440 Australian Marine Conservation Society was quoted by the Guardian today 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:24.280 saying the government literally has solutions in their hands. 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:26.080 They're called shaknits. 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:29.680 Technologies such as drone surveillance, personal shark deterance, and they're 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:35.880 leading sharks Smart education program improving safety without harming marine life, 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:39.640 as though that means we shouldn't take every precautionary measure possible, 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:42.960 including sharknecks, even if it means we lose a few 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:46.240 marine animals along the way. New South Wales Animal Justice 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:49.120 Party MP Emma Hurst, of course she doesn't like it. 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:52.199 She says, we know they don't work, we know that 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:56.240 sharks can swim under them or around them, but when 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:58.600 did you last hear of someone being attacked on a 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:02.040 New South Wales beach that is protected by sharknts. 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:04.200 I mean, for goodness sake. 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:08.280 What it comes down to, basically is that they believe 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:11.640 that the water is the shark's domain and if you 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:14.679 go into the water, you are going into their home 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:17.720 and you deserve to be eaten if you get attacked. 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:22.040 I'm sorry. We rose to the top of the tree. 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:25.120 We are the apex predator, and if we want to 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:27.640 go in the water, we should have every bloody right 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:29.760 to do so. And I don't care how many marine 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:31.920 animals you kill along the way so I can go 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:32.480 for a swimp. 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:34.600 But it's not that many marine animals that are being killed. 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:37.800 're in thirty four yeah, and ten percent of those 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:41.920 that were caught were sharks. So what's that ten percent 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:44.640 of one hundred and thirty four cents thirteen fourteen sharks 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:48.040 are caught for one hundred and thirty four turtles, dolphins. 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:50.360 Whatever, dougons, it's not that many. 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:53.280 As for the claim that you know, we've already got 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:56.640 technology in place, well, I'd be using absolutely everything at 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:59.760 our disposal. And I'm gonna ask what is sharks smart? 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:01.920 Is that a program for sharks. 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:02.559 Where they kick them? 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:03.440 Yeah? 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:05.200 People are people, not food. 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:08.000 And what about this claim that, well, you know, sharks 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:10.760 can swim around shark nets or under them, Well so 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:12.640 con turtles, so good dolphins. 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:15.160 But that's like saying that, Okay, I have a fence 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:18.040 on the front of my property to deter people from 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:22.160 breaking into my property. People can scale fences, Therefore they 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:25.880 should be no fences anywhere, ever, because people can get 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:26.840 over the top of them. 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:28.680 You don't say that. You said, well, I'm going to. 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:30.960 Put the fence in. If someone manages to scale it, 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:33.160 we'll deal with that problem when we come to it. 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:33.960 It's a deterrent. 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:37.360 So she's saying, why don't we just use drone surveillance, 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:41.560 personal shark deterrence and this education program that you mentioned, Mac, 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:44.560 How much does that cost if we're going to do 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:48.760 a cost benefit analysis here? I bet the nets stay 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:51.959 the amount of crack pots because I encountered some of 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:54.600 these when I was doing my master's degree in human rights. Right, 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:57.760 and these people who are all about animal rights, even 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:05.600 plant rights. Yes, those people actually exist. They they genuinely 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:10.560 considered them just as important and considered you a speciest 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:13.440 if you dared to say something as simple as human 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:17.400 life is more valuable than any kind of animal life 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:21.360 in this case marine life. USA and Australia are the 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:28.040 most shark infested countries in the world on the known planet, 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:32.800 And here we are quibbling about saving some I'm happy 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:36.439 to call chuck it in some batter, sell it for cheap, 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:38.160 like if that's what they're worried. 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:40.679 About like we're killing them and they're going to waste. Fine, 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:41.320 we'll eat them. 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:43.600 We'll eat them all, chuck them in a freezer and 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:46.360 we'll get round to it. Like the fact that they 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:51.480 genuinely consider these lives, these barocious lives above and beyond 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:54.520 families going to the beach and having the peace of 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:56.760 mind to let their kids play. 0:12:56.520 --> 0:13:01.400 In the surf. Is no reasoner will rashable person is 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:05.320 going to go with that kind of idiocy. 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:08.520 It sometime between you now, I just wondered how you 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:10.280 were to finish that sentence. I think you were wondering 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:13.560 how you're gonna finish that. At some point between now 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:15.920 and some of there will be in s l M 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:19.680 march through the streets of Melbourne shark lives. Remember, but 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:22.160 one of the arguments that this animal rights activists put 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:24.600 up was she said the problem with shark nets is 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:27.600 they create a false sense of security for beach goers. 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:31.000 Could use that about no sense about thrones provide a 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:35.160 false sense of security, or shark education provides a false 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:36.480 sense of Yah, it's. 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:39.440 Just the lifeguard scurity. 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:43.360 People seriously think that if the sharks worked out how 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:45.840 to get out of the water and walk on land 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:48.400 as the fish did many years ago. Imagine if the 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:51.560 sharks could walk out onto the beaches, do you reckon? 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:55.400 They would spare a single human being in their way 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:58.720 if they decided they wanted to colonize the land. No, 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:02.560 you'd be dead in a second's flight. The shark does 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:06.160 not care about your life, So why should I care 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:08.480 about the shark's life. I want to go for a 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:11.160 swim in the water. I'm a human being. I'm at 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:13.280 the top of the tree. The shark's got to pay 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:14.000 the price for that. 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:16.839 As far as actually, don't even imagine you at the beach. 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:19.800 Well, I do prefer to sort of sit by the 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:22.840 beach with a beer. I'm not a particular fan of 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:25.840 hot sand, but I'll take a walk along the beach 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:27.720 of a nice barmi evening. 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:29.120 But you know I was going to say, I can't 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:31.200 petue you frolicking in the sand. 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:34.800 Well look, look, I may have many years ago been 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:38.200 seen on a boogie board paddling along at the beach, but. 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:41.359 It didn't happen Kalb photos or it didn't. 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:46.160 Happen to Germany now, where two podcasts podcasters rather have 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:51.400 been ordered to delete their podcast for calling a biological man, 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:55.560 a biological man, a transgender woman. They have referred to 0:14:55.760 --> 0:15:00.520 as he him and said that he is ind. 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:01.480 A biological man. 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:04.520 And for this crime they have not only been told 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:08.360 to delete the podcast, and they have indeed begged all 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:11.600 their followers to delete any comments that they made relating 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:14.200 to it, or any shares that they made relating to it. 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:18.800 These guys are now facing potentially prison time or a 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:23.160 finer up to two hundred and fifty thousand euros. 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:24.280 That's a lot of money. 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:28.800 We're talking over four hundred thousand dollars in Australian dollars, 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:31.880 so a lot of money. If they do it again, 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:35.200 they could be looking at two years in jail, and 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:40.400 if they failed to pay that fine, prison for six months. 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:41.960 The court dropped everything it. 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:46.120 Was doing to exercise a great deal of emergency about 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:50.239 them doing so. It's as if referring to a biological 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:53.640 man these days is indeed a crime if that man 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:57.840 insists that he is no longer a man. This particular fellow, 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:01.800 who's now known as Laura Holstein, was known as Nicholas, 0:16:02.320 --> 0:16:05.440 has made headlines over the past few months demanding access 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:09.280 to female spaces. First, it was the women's football league, 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:12.440 which he did gain access to. He was given a 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:15.560 special showering roster because the women did not want to 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:17.200 share changing rooms with him. 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:18.040 He has been. 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:23.360 Accused of not abiding by that roster, and now he's 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:27.560 turned his attention to a woman's gym, demanding. 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:27.960 Access to it. 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:31.040 Also, this is what the podcast has covered, and this 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:32.800 is what they got into trouble for. 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:33.440 One of the. 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:38.360 Podcasters says, our podcast Hotsenhoff was censored. 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:41.720 Welcome to Germany. Our podcast episode about. 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:44.320 The legal drama of a person who was born biologically 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:47.080 male but wanted to go to a women's gym with 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:51.200 the support of the independent Federal Commissioner for Anti Discrimination 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:55.800 is now offline. He writes, the questions that arise are 0:16:55.840 --> 0:17:00.320 as explosive as they are uncomfortable. How should a society 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:05.160 function in which biological realities and legal fictions come into 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:09.240 such a blatant contradiction. What if someone who appears to 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:13.680 be clearly male, like Laura, is considered a woman by 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:17.920 legal decree and thus gains access to spaces that were 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:21.119 traditionally reserved for women. 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:23.199 So there you have it. 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:26.920 He already successfully sued the gym. 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:30.600 The lady who prohibited him from. 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:32.800 Coming to the women's only. Jim had to cough up 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:37.600 one thousand euros. Then she heard from Laura's lawyers demanding 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:41.040 a further two and a half thousand euros, which begs 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:44.639 the question, can any trans woman now just make this 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:46.320 into a money making scheme. 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:49.679 Yeah, So to be specific, these podcasters were threatened with 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:53.800 a four hundred thousand Australian dollar fine. And this is 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:57.880 specifically what they said. They referred to this person as quote, 0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:00.600 a man who feels he's in the wrong bloe. I'm 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:03.240 allowed to say that, and they pointed out the quote 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:06.720 unquote he still has a dick. And so for those comments, 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:11.200 they've been threatened with imprisonment. And the judgment said that 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:17.119 the person concerns personal rights were violated by referring to 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:21.000 him as a man, because legally and socially he's recognized 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:22.800 as a woman. Now we're going to have these problems 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:24.440 in Australia very soon. 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:26.280 Well we do. 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:28.520 We just had a case, didn't we be in Queensland. 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:32.280 Now you can change your birth certificate in Western Australia. 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:34.280 You're about to be able to in Victoria you can. 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:36.960 There's a bill currently before the New South Wales Parliament. 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:39.480 So you've got a situation where legally a person is 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:42.199 a woman. So then according to the law, if you 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:45.320 call them anything but a woman, you are in breach 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:49.760 of speech laws. But the law itself now violates your 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:53.320 conscience because it forces you to say things that not 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:55.600 only that you don't believe them, it forces you to 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:56.760 say things that you know. 0:18:56.920 --> 0:19:00.240 To be untrue. So my question is, and. 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:03.399 Again I'm going to be naive here, Caleb, where's Amnesty International? 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:06.040 I see them collecting money at every shopping center I 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:08.439 go to, and I just wonder, where are you, guys? 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:12.160 When people's consciences are being violated by government laws such 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:15.240 as this, Amnesty International and all of those groups that 0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:18.240 are really worried about rights never seem to show up 0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:22.560 for the rights of ordinary citizens having their consciences violated 0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:23.800 by government. 0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:26.159 Because they've decided they're more interested in transgender rights. And 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:29.199 as you pointed out, this was basically the premise of 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:31.840 the judgment that was made in the Giggle versus Tickle 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:37.320 case Giggle being a female only social media at Tickle 0:19:37.359 --> 0:19:41.000 being a biological male who is now legally decreed to 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:43.000 be a woman who wanted access to the app was 0:19:43.000 --> 0:19:46.120 denied access and then the court rule that that was discrimination. 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:50.440 It is proof of how far gone we are that 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:53.200 you can no longer in certain parts of the world, 0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:55.199 and I mean this is Germany. But don't think that 0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:58.280 this won't come to us, particularly once Labor gets its 0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:02.480 misinformation Disinformation bill up, which will go after like this. 0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:06.359 You know, the consequences may be different in terms of 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:09.119 what can be put upon you, probably not jail time, 0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:13.600 but potentially finds and being hounded by AKMA for posting 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:17.000 something online as a user on social media saying that 0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:19.480 someone is a biological male when they are a biological 0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:22.520 male but now according to their birth certificate they are 0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:24.960 a woman. The fact that in certain parts of the 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:30.320 world you cannot skate facts anymore without being prosecuted for 0:20:30.400 --> 0:20:34.280 doing so because it is a form of discrimination supposedly 0:20:34.440 --> 0:20:39.239 is outrageous, and it starts with transgender people and then 0:20:39.280 --> 0:20:43.919 it becomes everything else. This is the vanguard that allows 0:20:44.000 --> 0:20:47.439 the left to completely control the narrative and decide what 0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:50.800 is and isn't true, regardless of how true it is 0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:53.960 or is not. And the whole point of this case, 0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:56.520 it's not about the podcasters. 0:20:56.800 --> 0:20:59.200 The idea is to go after two people who. 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:01.760 Have a popular pod cast to send a message to 0:21:01.800 --> 0:21:04.560 the rest of the population, yes, that if you dare 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:07.480 to even say things like this at the dinner table, 0:21:07.760 --> 0:21:11.480 or in your workplace, or to your friends on the weekend, 0:21:11.880 --> 0:21:15.639 that we will come for you too. These are simply 0:21:15.640 --> 0:21:18.720 the ones taking the fall. It's ultimately about telling people no, 0:21:19.160 --> 0:21:22.479 you can't even think that anymore, and that is chilling. 0:21:22.760 --> 0:21:27.560 We famously had a antidiscrimination commissioner in this country a 0:21:27.560 --> 0:21:30.199 few years ago. I forget the lady's name. If it 0:21:30.240 --> 0:21:32.080 comes to me, old Gillian Triggs. 0:21:31.880 --> 0:21:34.399 I think I can't be sure. I don't want to 0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:34.880 miss quotes. 0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:36.480 It was running the Human Rights Commission. 0:21:36.520 --> 0:21:39.200 But was it her or someone else who famously said, 0:21:39.280 --> 0:21:41.840 as a joke, but it's a pity that people are 0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:44.320 still allowed to say what they want around the kitchen table. 0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:45.680 I believe it was Julius. 0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:48.560 The Jillian Trigs, and it was said in jest, but 0:21:48.680 --> 0:21:51.680 often a word in jest, Liz is to. 0:21:51.680 --> 0:21:53.760 Every joke there is an element of truth. 0:21:54.040 --> 0:21:57.840 And for people in positions of power to be lamenting 0:21:57.880 --> 0:22:00.320 the fact that you know what, we're just about controlled 0:22:00.359 --> 0:22:02.840 all speech, it's just a pity we can't get our 0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:04.280 hands on the kitchen table. 0:22:04.680 --> 0:22:06.480 It's quite chilling, and well, this. 0:22:06.560 --> 0:22:07.760 Is compelled speech. 0:22:07.880 --> 0:22:10.560 So the kitchen table is pretty much the only sacred 0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:13.600 place left people speaking in hush tones. 0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:16.080 Truthfully, nowadays, when you. 0:22:16.040 --> 0:22:19.919 Even meet someone who is brave enough to talk in 0:22:20.000 --> 0:22:22.639 black and white terms about not just this, but many 0:22:22.680 --> 0:22:26.359 other issues, it is so refreshing, which is why we 0:22:26.480 --> 0:22:29.000 have to keep it up, because that is what they 0:22:29.080 --> 0:22:32.600 do not want to have happen. Because if you're saying it, 0:22:32.840 --> 0:22:37.199 and I'm saying it, everyone within earshot feels emboldened to 0:22:37.320 --> 0:22:42.640 say trans women aren't women or insert issue. 0:22:42.920 --> 0:22:44.320 This is compelled speech. 0:22:44.359 --> 0:22:46.880 And I don't care what laws they make in this country, 0:22:46.960 --> 0:22:49.640 I will not be abiding by them because you cannot 0:22:50.040 --> 0:22:53.080 do that. And with every single one of these, particularly 0:22:53.480 --> 0:23:01.480 LGBTQ laws that are made, they disproportionately affect religious people, 0:23:01.520 --> 0:23:04.639 whether you're Christian, whether you're Catholic, whether you're Muslim. There's 0:23:04.800 --> 0:23:08.440 millions of us in this country and billions of us 0:23:08.520 --> 0:23:09.520 across the West. 0:23:09.840 --> 0:23:10.840 We're not going away. 0:23:11.240 --> 0:23:13.840 We're not gone down without a fight, and you will 0:23:13.880 --> 0:23:18.880 never brainwash us enough or fine us enough for us 0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:24.520 to turn our backs on pure biological reality, like God 0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:28.520 made man and woman. That was It wasn't a long list, 0:23:28.760 --> 0:23:30.880 was really short, is still very short. 0:23:31.119 --> 0:23:34.199 End of remember mate from America having coffee about ten 0:23:34.320 --> 0:23:36.520 years ago, we're seeing a cafe and we're just talking 0:23:36.520 --> 0:23:38.320 about the state of the world, and he says, with 0:23:38.480 --> 0:23:39.959 it in a country with free speech, where you can 0:23:40.000 --> 0:23:41.960 say what you want, right, And I said yeah, And 0:23:42.000 --> 0:23:43.480 he said, but if you noticed, for the last ten 0:23:43.480 --> 0:23:46.439 minutes since we've been discussing AB and C, both of 0:23:46.480 --> 0:23:48.600 us have been leaning forward and we've lowered our tone. 0:23:48.640 --> 0:23:51.159 So no one around us here is I thought, oh, 0:23:51.760 --> 0:23:52.200 you're right. 0:23:52.240 --> 0:23:54.840 Of course, Elon Musk is warning that this is only 0:23:54.880 --> 0:23:57.720 going to get worse, and a lot worse if Kamala 0:23:57.800 --> 0:24:01.480 Harris wins the next election. In fact, he tweeted today 0:24:01.760 --> 0:24:05.560 freedom of speech is under massive attack around the world, 0:24:05.600 --> 0:24:08.600 and he's absolutely right. We've had the boss of Telegram 0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:12.159 arrested in France, being accused of not doing enough to 0:24:12.600 --> 0:24:17.000 go after people using his social media platform for nefarious purposes. 0:24:17.040 --> 0:24:17.919 We've got the CEO of. 0:24:18.040 --> 0:24:21.639 Rumble who's fled Europe fearing he will be arrest for 0:24:21.680 --> 0:24:25.639 his video platform. Mark Zuckerberg has just admitted that he 0:24:25.720 --> 0:24:29.200 was pressured by the Biden Harris administration and the FBI 0:24:29.760 --> 0:24:34.040 to censor people over COVID comments and to suppress information 0:24:34.080 --> 0:24:38.960 about Hunter Biden's laptop. And now Brazil have banned Twitter 0:24:39.080 --> 0:24:42.560 or X from being accessed there, threatening people with eight 0:24:42.600 --> 0:24:46.560 thousand dollars fines per day if they use a VPN 0:24:46.920 --> 0:24:50.600 to access the platform. And here's Kamala Harris just to 0:24:50.640 --> 0:24:53.639 make the point, lamenting the fact that Elon Musk is 0:24:53.680 --> 0:24:55.560 still allowed to operate X. 0:24:57.280 --> 0:24:59.920 He has lost his privileges and it should be taken down. 0:25:00.200 --> 0:25:02.439 And the bottom line is that you can't say that 0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:04.000 you have one rule for Facebook and you have a 0:25:04.000 --> 0:25:06.600 different rule for Twitter. The same rule has to apply, 0:25:06.680 --> 0:25:10.800 which is that there has to be a responsibility that 0:25:10.920 --> 0:25:14.080 is placed on these social media sites to understand their power. 0:25:14.800 --> 0:25:18.479 They are directly speaking to millions and millions of people 0:25:18.800 --> 0:25:23.280 without any level of oversight or regulation. 0:25:24.880 --> 0:25:27.840 Help unpack this to me, Liz, Elon Musk has lost 0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:32.760 his privileges, and his privilege is to give Liz James 0:25:32.840 --> 0:25:35.760 Caleb in every Tom Dick and Harry out there the 0:25:35.840 --> 0:25:38.560 ability to just say what they think. 0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:41.439 Yeah, yeah, I love it when government give me rights 0:25:41.480 --> 0:25:45.000 that I was born with. Thanks for that, you're so magnanimous. 0:25:45.320 --> 0:25:47.800 What you really meant to say, there was censorship. 0:25:48.680 --> 0:25:50.439 They're just allowed to say whatever they. 0:25:50.320 --> 0:25:54.600 Want, like free people freely exchanging information for free. 0:25:54.720 --> 0:25:55.520 We can't have that. 0:25:55.600 --> 0:25:58.960 It's so dangerous, of course, because if you can't control 0:25:59.000 --> 0:26:04.320 the narrative, can't control the people, and anyone encouraging critical thinking, 0:26:04.720 --> 0:26:08.000 well they're extremely dangerous because there's a lot to criticize 0:26:08.000 --> 0:26:10.840 when it comes to government. So what she meant to say, 0:26:10.880 --> 0:26:13.520 there was censorship. They're just able to say whatever they 0:26:13.560 --> 0:26:19.440 want without any supervisory role over them, Like adults can't 0:26:19.520 --> 0:26:23.760 just decide for themselves what's bs and what we choose 0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:27.400 to believe in. No, no, we've got a sensor at all. 0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:30.320 There's no one censoring it. This is out of control. 0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:32.919 And the trouble is a lot of people in the 0:26:32.920 --> 0:26:36.120 free world are actually gobbling this up because they've done 0:26:36.280 --> 0:26:37.880 such a good job. 0:26:37.880 --> 0:26:40.920 Of saying this is about safety. 0:26:41.400 --> 0:26:44.800 Look what happened with COVID and people like Trump telling 0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:48.520 people to drink bleach. He never said that, by the way, 0:26:48.560 --> 0:26:51.840 but didn't they run with it. We can't have people 0:26:52.160 --> 0:26:56.760 proliferating these dangerous kind of concepts. They always do it 0:26:56.800 --> 0:26:58.840 in the name of safety, and they're doing it again 0:26:58.920 --> 0:27:02.240 with Elon. Meanwhile, well, every single tweet that guy drops 0:27:02.320 --> 0:27:05.760 is absolutely based and that's why they're worried about him, 0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:08.720 because he's taking them on country after country. 0:27:08.960 --> 0:27:13.200 X has just been banned in Brazil because it refused 0:27:13.640 --> 0:27:15.000 to shut. 0:27:14.680 --> 0:27:19.320 Down all the accounts of the opposing the opposition in 0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:23.600 governments and the dodgy things that are happening in this space. 0:27:23.760 --> 0:27:26.440 You mentioned the Rumble guy, that's where everyone who's been 0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:31.320 booted off YouTube goes. You mentioned Telegram also, that guy's 0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:34.359 still just rotting away in a French prison. Nobody really 0:27:34.400 --> 0:27:37.720 knows what is going on. It's been over a week now, 0:27:38.119 --> 0:27:43.160 and their only crime is defending free speech and refusing 0:27:43.640 --> 0:27:47.440 to censor people on their platforms. These are the three 0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:51.840 remaining platforms in the world where you can actually express yourself. 0:27:51.880 --> 0:27:54.400 And Kamala Harris is up to old tricks here and 0:27:54.440 --> 0:27:56.800 this is the real concern, right because of course she's 0:27:56.840 --> 0:27:59.000 not said at any point that you know, I'm actually 0:27:59.040 --> 0:28:02.360 going to go online and then banned Donald Trump from 0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:06.479 being on Twitter, but she has previously previously suggested sorry 0:28:06.720 --> 0:28:11.119 that Twitter now X should remove Donald Trump from its platform. 0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:12.760 That did eventually happen. 0:28:12.840 --> 0:28:16.360 Of course, he was reinstated after Elon Muster took over 0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:19.760 and has recently started using the platform again. But here 0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:23.439 is a reminder of Kamala Harris saying Trump should be 0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:25.080 banished when he was president. 0:28:25.200 --> 0:28:30.240 Mind you, I know you wrote to Twitter and the CEO, 0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:34.000 Jack Dorsey and asked him to take away the president's 0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:38.600 Twitter handle his account. How is that not a violation 0:28:39.520 --> 0:28:43.200 of free speech? I mean, the president has the same 0:28:43.320 --> 0:28:46.520 rights that you have that I have, And how would 0:28:46.560 --> 0:28:47.880 that not just be a slippery slope? 0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:50.960 K I've heard that argument. But here's the thing, Jake. 0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:54.680 First of all, a corporation, which is what Twitter is, 0:28:55.880 --> 0:29:00.360 it does not have the has obligations. And in this case, 0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:04.040 Twitter has terms of use policy, and there are terms 0:29:04.040 --> 0:29:08.320 of use dictate who receives the privilege of speaking on 0:29:08.360 --> 0:29:11.720 that platform and who does not. And Donald Trump has 0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:14.760 clearly violated the terms of use and there should be 0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:15.680 a consequence for that. 0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:19.200 And it's all good and well when it's the platform's 0:29:19.280 --> 0:29:21.480 terms of use, but what about when it becomes the 0:29:21.640 --> 0:29:26.000 government's terms of use? And Western governments, particularly left leaning 0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:29.120 Western governments, now, as we just talked about in Germany, 0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:33.800 all over the shop, trying to control people's speech and 0:29:33.840 --> 0:29:36.360 decide what is and isn't real. And as I said before, 0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:39.960 misinformation disinformation laws here in Australia. So why would you 0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:44.120 not believe if that is Camala's attitude towards Donald Trump 0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:47.680 back then when he was president, that should she win 0:29:47.760 --> 0:29:50.880 in November, she would then not take the opportunity as 0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:54.320 president to have to extend those sort of restrictions in. 0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:55.080 A legal way. 0:29:55.160 --> 0:29:58.440 And that's why the lack of curiosity about Mark Zuckerberg's 0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:02.000 letter the other week, where you've got the Biden Harris 0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:04.680 administration and now Harris is running for president of the 0:30:04.840 --> 0:30:12.600 US pressured Facebook to suppress people's posts, to suppress news 0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:17.160 about Hunter Biden, And so good on Mark Zuckerberg for saying, look, 0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:18.600 in retrospect, we shouldn't have done it. 0:30:18.760 --> 0:30:20.800 No way, you were just getting out ahead of a 0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:22.920 with baby. Let me no credit, let me finish the 0:30:22.960 --> 0:30:24.280 thirddit for that man. 0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:28.080 Shouldn't we get specifics like shouldn't the public be demanding, well, 0:30:28.320 --> 0:30:32.239 who pressured whom? When, which posts did they suppress? What 0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:35.480 threats did they make? In a couple of months time. 0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:37.719 This lady could be the leader of the free world 0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:40.920 if she's involved in things like this or her administration. 0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:43.360 We should know all the details, not just. 0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:46.200 Have an a four letter from Mark Zuckerberg saying it happened, 0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:47.160 it won't happen again. 0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:49.720 Move on, Yeah, and why should we believe you while 0:30:49.720 --> 0:30:50.680 you're admitting in the. 0:30:50.640 --> 0:30:52.120 Same breath you did it. 0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:56.720 You censor people in order to manipulate them. Who knows 0:30:56.760 --> 0:30:59.040 how the last election would have gone in the States 0:30:59.120 --> 0:31:03.880 were it not for a certain administration giving marching orders 0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:07.959 to the biggest social media platform in the world, and 0:31:08.000 --> 0:31:12.360 that social media platforming saying yes, actually we will censor it. 0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:15.480 Nobody's really going to hear the true story of. 0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:18.520 Hunter Biden and that came from the government. 0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:21.400 You quite right. Here in Australia, we had over. 0:31:21.320 --> 0:31:27.480 Four thousand posts censored by our government during the pandemic. 0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:31.400 And again, like U Saimak, such a lack of curiosity. 0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:34.960 Where is the outcry, especially after it was shown. Chris 0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:38.880 Kenny wrote an amazing article on this, especially after it 0:31:38.920 --> 0:31:43.000 was showed the vast majority of those posts were factual. Now, 0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:46.800 in hindsight, they were perfectly reasonable factual statements. 0:31:46.840 --> 0:31:50.400 There was more interest in Raygun's Olympic performance, yes, than 0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:51.920 in Australians being. 0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:53.480 Censored on the state of US. 0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:54.440 Now, I'll tell. 0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:56.960 You what though, if this does happen in the US 0:31:57.000 --> 0:31:59.520 and Kamala decides she's going to censor everything, maybe she 0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:03.120 should put Nancy Pelosi in charge of running that operation, 0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:05.720 because we know how on the ball she is, so 0:32:05.920 --> 0:32:08.600 on the ball that she actually lets slip. Talking to 0:32:08.680 --> 0:32:11.880 talk show host Bill Maher, that the whole idea of 0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:16.240 all these illegal immigrants coming into the country, undocumented migrants 0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:20.800 in the US, is that they should eventually become documented margrants. 0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:23.920 And of course, once they become documented margarants, there's a 0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:27.600 road forward to citizenship and then ultimately a road forward 0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:28.360 to voting. 0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:30.080 And who are you going to vote for except the. 0:32:30.040 --> 0:32:32.760 Party that allowed you to illegally pour over the border 0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:36.040 and then eventually become a citizen. She was talking to 0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:38.800 Bill Maher or Bill Maher was questioning her about a 0:32:38.840 --> 0:32:43.080 scheme in California, her home state, called the California Dream 0:32:43.200 --> 0:32:44.400 for All program. 0:32:44.520 --> 0:32:46.320 Now, this has existed for a little while. 0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:48.480 By the way, it has no money left in it 0:32:48.560 --> 0:32:51.400 because it's all been spent. But the idea is that 0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:55.720 California gives you twenty percent of the value of a 0:32:55.800 --> 0:32:57.760 house to go off and get a loan. It's the 0:32:57.840 --> 0:33:00.920 down payment for the loan that is a huge leg 0:33:01.000 --> 0:33:03.400 up for first home buyers. And it was so popular 0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:05.360 that all of the money, the millions and millions that 0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:08.520 were put into it, is now gone. But that hasn't 0:33:08.520 --> 0:33:12.640 stopped the legislature in California passing a bill that now 0:33:12.760 --> 0:33:15.720 means that money, even when it ever becomes available again, 0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:20.640 will be available to undocumented migrants. So someone who shouldn't 0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:22.760 be in the country, should not be in the US, 0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:25.479 an illegal migrant will be able to go to the 0:33:25.480 --> 0:33:28.840 government in California and get the down payment for a 0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:31.720 home to buy a house that someone else, who is 0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:34.840 a citizen who belongs in the United States has been 0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:36.920 slugging their guts out to buy. 0:33:37.080 --> 0:33:38.840 Doesn't that make a lot of sense. 0:33:38.880 --> 0:33:41.560 Well, Ma asked Pelosi about this, and this is how 0:33:41.560 --> 0:33:42.280 she responded. 0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:47.680 Immigration had always been a bipartisan issue. I refer you 0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:51.120 to that no free houses. Well, there's not free housing. 0:33:51.200 --> 0:33:55.160 It's the American dream being available to more people. I'm 0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:58.560 not familiar with exactly what it is, but making the 0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:03.440 American dream of home ownership available to all people is 0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:06.120 something we have to do for people for a year now, this. 0:34:07.760 --> 0:34:10.920 Is undocumented. This is for the undocumented. 0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:13.640 Well, what I would like to do is move them 0:34:13.680 --> 0:34:14.320 to document. 0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:16.200 It is that we can. 0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:21.680 Move one to document. One of the best things that 0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:26.040 we can do for our economy is to pass comprehensive 0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:29.080 immigration reform. 0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:29.800 Ah. 0:34:29.880 --> 0:34:32.520 Yes, she wants to make them documented. I wonder why 0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:33.160 that would be. 0:34:33.200 --> 0:34:34.719 And she wants them to be. 0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:38.040 Able to buy houses in California so they won't leave. 0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:41.520 I wonder why that might be a bit different to 0:34:41.520 --> 0:34:42.960 what she said in two thousand and eight. 0:34:44.880 --> 0:34:47.160 We need to address the issue of immigration and the 0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:51.120 challenge we have of undocumented people in our country. We 0:34:51.239 --> 0:34:53.040 certainly don't want any more coming in. 0:34:54.520 --> 0:34:57.480 We certainly don't want any more coming in until we 0:34:57.520 --> 0:34:59.839 work out that they might eventually be able to vote 0:34:59.880 --> 0:35:03.839 for I mean, how can you just sit there and go, yeah, yeah, 0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:05.880 no problem at I want people who are in my 0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:09.440 country illegally to get access to government money to buy 0:35:09.640 --> 0:35:13.320 houses that other people, genuine US citizens could otherwise. 0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:15.480 But we well that's exactly what's happening. But I like the 0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:18.120 way she reframes it. It's not about giving away free 0:35:18.120 --> 0:35:19.520 houses with taxpayer money. 0:35:19.560 --> 0:35:20.480 It's about the. 0:35:20.440 --> 0:35:22.280 American dream, American dream. 0:35:22.320 --> 0:35:25.479 It's all about how it's all about Americans. 0:35:25.840 --> 0:35:28.080 And of course, she says, right now it's out. 0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:30.680 Of reach of Americans. And now, on top of that. 0:35:31.120 --> 0:35:35.440 Their taxpayer dollar is fitting the bill for the illegals 0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:40.000 to live the American dream that they themselves cannot afford. 0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:42.520 What I love about this is Belosi finally said the 0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:46.319 quiet part out loud. Which is the reason why our 0:35:46.360 --> 0:35:51.720 administration has not only allowed, but facilitated over ten million 0:35:51.840 --> 0:35:56.360 illegals pouring over the Mexican border is because we fully 0:35:56.400 --> 0:35:59.799 intend the fully intend to make them legal and are 0:35:59.800 --> 0:36:02.359 allow them to vote, and they will, of course vote 0:36:02.400 --> 0:36:05.040 for us, because we are the administration who. 0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:06.680 Let them in. 0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:11.000 Now, Trump is the one who has promised mass deportation. 0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:14.440 Look biggest deportation program in history if he makes it 0:36:14.480 --> 0:36:15.440 to the White House. 0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:18.399 The Dems have already told you what they're going to do, 0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:21.400 and that is make these guys legal and they won't 0:36:21.400 --> 0:36:25.680 be going anywhere. Meanwhile, every major country is growning under 0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:28.520 the weight of trying to support these people. 0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:30.399 The way they talk about it always makes me laugh. 0:36:30.440 --> 0:36:33.680 This is one of the Californian congressmen. He says, undocumented 0:36:33.719 --> 0:36:37.040 individuals have historically been removed from housing initiatives because of 0:36:37.120 --> 0:36:40.080 federal restrictions. No, it's because they're not citizens and so 0:36:40.080 --> 0:36:41.520 they don't have the right to house and going to 0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:43.880 go back to where they came from and come the 0:36:43.960 --> 0:36:46.840 legal way. It's all about the framing. We're going to 0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:48.560 go to a break. When we come back, we'll look 0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:53.040 at the papers, including skyrocketing compensation claims for school teachers 0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:54.640 as solved it by students. 0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:56.920 That's in tomorrow's papers. We'll talk about it in a moment. 0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:00.560 Welcome back. 0:37:00.640 --> 0:37:02.440 Let's take a look at the papers tomorrow. 0:37:02.560 --> 0:37:03.640 Liz, you've got the Herald Sun. 0:37:03.920 --> 0:37:08.279 Yes, I do. Check out this splash teacher trauma. More 0:37:08.280 --> 0:37:11.719 than fifty million dollars has been paid out to Victorian 0:37:11.800 --> 0:37:14.600 teachers and tertiary staff who were injured on the job 0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:18.200 in the past two years, with experts blaming the explosion 0:37:18.640 --> 0:37:22.800 of compensation claims on aggressive students and staff bullies. The 0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:26.560 article goes on to say teachers from state and private schools, 0:37:26.840 --> 0:37:31.480 as well as tertiary and TAFE educators, made one hundred 0:37:31.480 --> 0:37:35.600 and ninety nine claims in twenty twenty two and almost 0:37:35.600 --> 0:37:43.080 fifteen hundred claims last year, including for psychological stress, concussions, fractures, 0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:49.640 and even deafness. You've got to really consider how helpless 0:37:49.680 --> 0:37:52.719 these teachers must feel in today's day and age, where 0:37:52.760 --> 0:37:56.319 you cannot even touch a student, even if it's in 0:37:56.360 --> 0:38:00.239 self defense. Arguably, I think the solution is bring about 0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:02.680 corporal punishment. Back in my day, we still had the 0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:05.880 paddle and it worked really well in certain types. 0:38:05.960 --> 0:38:07.239 I mean the fact. 0:38:06.960 --> 0:38:09.560 That these teachers just have to copy it and then 0:38:09.800 --> 0:38:12.880 file for some sort of compo it's probably quite hard. 0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:13.680 To get as well. 0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:18.760 And the number of them that's over fifty million dollars 0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:21.839 paid out just over two years, that's incredible. 0:38:22.040 --> 0:38:24.200 Yeah, we know a lot of teachers are leaving the profession. 0:38:24.239 --> 0:38:26.640 And when you're being abused, and it's not just students, 0:38:26.680 --> 0:38:29.080 but you discipline a student, the next minute you've got 0:38:29.120 --> 0:38:32.279 the parents in claiming all sorts of things. It's a 0:38:32.320 --> 0:38:33.440 pretty thankless task. 0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:35.200 Yeah, I mean in some of these cases, one hundred 0:38:35.200 --> 0:38:39.040 and forty one one thousand dollars for psychological harm, one 0:38:39.080 --> 0:38:41.960 hundred and twenty grand for head injuries, one hundred and 0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:44.080 three grand for risk injuries. 0:38:44.120 --> 0:38:44.799 I mean, these are. 0:38:44.719 --> 0:38:47.799 Pretty big gifts that these teachers are clearly getting caught up. 0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:50.280 And you know, it's a bit like being a copper. 0:38:50.320 --> 0:38:52.520 I suppose you know, you go to work every day 0:38:52.520 --> 0:38:54.600 expecting you that you're going to come home from the job. 0:38:54.640 --> 0:38:56.719 You know that there's a level of risk, But as 0:38:56.719 --> 0:38:59.279 a teacher, you expect that you're going to be able 0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:01.560 to go to work and do your job, which is 0:39:01.600 --> 0:39:05.160 to educate children, or I suppose, in the case of TAFE, 0:39:05.360 --> 0:39:08.000 educate young adults. You don't expect that you're going to 0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:10.160 have to get into a fight or that someone's going 0:39:10.160 --> 0:39:11.800 to try to assault you. 0:39:11.800 --> 0:39:14.560 No, you're worried about getting sun burnt on playground. 0:39:14.120 --> 0:39:18.719 Judy, you're not worried about remember no play I mean, 0:39:18.760 --> 0:39:20.600 you know they're going to have to come up with Well, 0:39:21.360 --> 0:39:23.920 it's just indicative of where we are at as a 0:39:23.960 --> 0:39:28.280 society with the discipline of children that they would even 0:39:28.320 --> 0:39:29.760 feel in boldened. 0:39:29.440 --> 0:39:30.560 Enough to do that. 0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:33.040 There are a fact like, you know, if I tried 0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:35.719 that on with a teacher, even though I knew that 0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:38.120 the teacher legally wasn't going to be able to respond 0:39:38.120 --> 0:39:40.000 to do anything. I knew what was going to happen 0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:43.399 when I got home, So you just simply wouldn't do that. 0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:45.719 But I suspect a lot of these kids who do 0:39:45.760 --> 0:39:48.000 this sort of thing are so entitled and their parents 0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:50.799 are so entitled that there's nothing when they get home. 0:39:50.800 --> 0:39:53.080 In fact, they probably go, little Johnny, you should have 0:39:53.120 --> 0:39:54.080 done that to your teacher. 0:39:54.160 --> 0:39:55.360 Absolutely disgusting. 0:39:55.480 --> 0:39:57.719 Let's go to the front of the old tomorrow, where 0:39:57.719 --> 0:40:01.920 it says casualty of culture war arts should be neutral here. 0:40:02.920 --> 0:40:06.080 The former managing director of the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra has 0:40:06.120 --> 0:40:08.759 hit out at her sacking over the sidelining of a 0:40:08.800 --> 0:40:12.640 pianist to attack Israel's conduct in Gaza, declaring that music 0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:16.960 concerts should be safe havens for all Australians and free 0:40:17.120 --> 0:40:21.560 from political protests. Sophie Galais is her name, and she 0:40:21.760 --> 0:40:24.600 was sacked essentially because all this pressure was put on 0:40:24.880 --> 0:40:28.800 the MSO because there was a pianist who started carrying 0:40:28.800 --> 0:40:31.440 on about Gaza and she said, well, no, people have 0:40:31.640 --> 0:40:35.439 come here to listen to nice music. They haven't come 0:40:35.480 --> 0:40:39.680 here for politics. They've come here to escape from politics. 0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:43.840 And the artsy Fatsi community has responded to that by saying, well, 0:40:43.920 --> 0:40:44.759 it's time. 0:40:44.640 --> 0:40:45.520 For you to go. 0:40:45.520 --> 0:40:49.000 Good on her for taking a stand and standing up 0:40:49.000 --> 0:40:52.480 for what she believes in, and I don't mean politics, 0:40:52.480 --> 0:40:55.359 standing up for what she believes in the arts, which 0:40:55.400 --> 0:41:00.239 should be available to everyone without discrimination or prejudice, regardless 0:41:00.360 --> 0:41:04.839 of your race, your religion, your sex, your sexuality, anything right, 0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:07.800 you should be able to enjoy the arts all the time. 0:41:07.880 --> 0:41:09.759 And that's what she's tried to do and she's paid 0:41:09.800 --> 0:41:10.680 the price with her job. 0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:13.560 Well, not only was it the correct decision morally, it 0:41:13.600 --> 0:41:16.719 was the correct decision commercially and that was probably her 0:41:16.840 --> 0:41:20.480 guiding principle and foremost in her mind. Because they had 0:41:20.520 --> 0:41:22.920 an audience of only about one hundred and fifty people 0:41:23.400 --> 0:41:26.759 and the number of complaints they received about that particular 0:41:26.760 --> 0:41:30.320 performance and what was said prior to it to the audience, 0:41:30.360 --> 0:41:34.440 someone grandstanding, Well, she's just looking after the commercial interests 0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:35.760 of the business by making. 0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:37.520 Sure that people don't stay away. 0:41:37.880 --> 0:41:41.120 But the problem that the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra have got here, Liz, 0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:44.160 is they have been known for their political stances in 0:41:44.200 --> 0:41:47.319 the past. They took stances on gay marriage, they took 0:41:47.360 --> 0:41:50.279 stances on the voice. Then they chose not to take 0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:54.560 a stance on the Palestinian issue. So in a way, 0:41:54.600 --> 0:41:57.920 they've got themselves to blame that they've got into this pickle, 0:41:58.000 --> 0:42:00.759 because you can't pick and choose when you're going to 0:42:00.800 --> 0:42:02.759 be political when you're not. If you're going to have 0:42:02.760 --> 0:42:05.359 a stance where about music and that's it, then you've 0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:07.800 got to stick to it. You can't duck and weave, 0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:09.600 pick and choose, chop and change. 0:42:09.760 --> 0:42:13.040 But this one was different. This guy didn't Donner Kathie. 0:42:13.360 --> 0:42:16.960 He wasn't standing up in the middle of his performance 0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:21.040 preaching to the audience, yelling about casualties in Gaza or 0:42:21.120 --> 0:42:23.920 anything like this. He simply chose a piece of music 0:42:23.960 --> 0:42:26.520 which I dare say most people wouldn't have even known 0:42:26.719 --> 0:42:31.520 had much significance. But he he dedicated it to the 0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:35.120 journalists and the work that they're doing on the ground 0:42:35.320 --> 0:42:39.399 in Gaza. So I don't see this as one of 0:42:39.440 --> 0:42:41.480 those like we've talked in. 0:42:41.440 --> 0:42:43.000 The part, you're missing one point. 0:42:43.480 --> 0:42:49.000 He accused Israel of assassinating journalists targeted assassinations of journalists 0:42:49.120 --> 0:42:53.680 during the performance. Yes, when he introduced chee okay, accord 0:42:53.719 --> 0:42:54.799 to the article, that's what he did. 0:42:54.840 --> 0:42:58.280 That was the I've only read that he played this piece, 0:42:58.360 --> 0:43:01.000 and he dedicated to the work that they're doing. 0:43:01.680 --> 0:43:03.719 In introducing the piece, he made that point that was 0:43:03.760 --> 0:43:08.240 the offensive point that he accused Israel of targeted assassinations 0:43:08.640 --> 0:43:09.719 against journalists. 0:43:09.800 --> 0:43:12.839 This piece is in honor of journalists who have been killed. 0:43:12.840 --> 0:43:16.200 Okay, well, you're quite right in that they've taken stances 0:43:16.239 --> 0:43:18.879 in the past and then chose to turf her over 0:43:18.920 --> 0:43:21.560 this particular one and nobody knows why, including her. 0:43:21.840 --> 0:43:24.480 Yeah, look, you know, just lead that stuff out and 0:43:24.880 --> 0:43:27.239 quite right to rebuke the performer. I don't care whether 0:43:27.280 --> 0:43:30.280 they're getting up and saying they're pro Israel, anti Israel, 0:43:30.360 --> 0:43:33.000 pro pro that. I don't go along to the theater 0:43:33.320 --> 0:43:36.640 or to the opera or whatever to be lectured about politics. 0:43:36.719 --> 0:43:38.719 I'm going along for entertainment, to. 0:43:38.840 --> 0:43:41.359 Enjoy the beauty of the music or the performance that's 0:43:41.360 --> 0:43:43.280 in front of me. If I'm going to an overtly 0:43:43.320 --> 0:43:46.040 political performance, well of course that's what I expect. But 0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:48.640 I don't go along to the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra expecting 0:43:48.640 --> 0:43:50.160 someone to talk to me about politics. 0:43:50.239 --> 0:43:51.840 Yeah, you don't go to the football. 0:43:51.480 --> 0:43:54.120 For it, eiram down your throats all the time. So 0:43:54.560 --> 0:43:58.560 I do sympathize with frustrated artists no matter which side 0:43:58.560 --> 0:44:01.160 of the debate that they're on, because it's like, well, 0:44:01.200 --> 0:44:05.960 I'm trying to use my platform like certain it's plaform orchestras. 0:44:06.480 --> 0:44:07.399 It doesn't belong to you. 0:44:07.440 --> 0:44:10.120 Say the same about all the different movie stars, the 0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:15.600 sporting heroes, everyone who applies their weight behind any political cause. 0:44:15.320 --> 0:44:17.840 And everyone says, shut up, shut up, shut up. We 0:44:18.160 --> 0:44:19.440 just want to watch sport. 0:44:20.480 --> 0:44:23.360 You can use social media. You can't do that, can you. 0:44:23.400 --> 0:44:25.560 Probably you'll get social media be taken down, So you 0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:27.080 can do it in your own time, but just don't 0:44:27.080 --> 0:44:29.360 do it my performance backer off. Another story on the 0:44:29.400 --> 0:44:32.120 front of the Ears Tomorrow, Too Far ALP front. 0:44:31.920 --> 0:44:34.160 Bench is warning to Reserve Bank. 0:44:34.160 --> 0:44:36.680 A government minister has warned the Reserve Bank against going 0:44:36.719 --> 0:44:40.320 too far in its fart against inflation, despite Jim Charmers 0:44:40.360 --> 0:44:43.080 denying he was attempting to influence the decisions of the 0:44:43.120 --> 0:44:47.560 Independent Central Bank after declaring its rate hikes were smashing 0:44:47.880 --> 0:44:50.680 the economy. Well, I'll let you in on a little secret, 0:44:50.760 --> 0:44:54.400 Jim Charmers. The reason that their rate hikes are smashing 0:44:54.400 --> 0:44:58.840 the economy is in part because you keep spending money 0:44:59.080 --> 0:45:02.840 The RBA only has one lever to pull, and that 0:45:03.040 --> 0:45:06.480 is to increase interest rates, and we know that that only. 0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:08.480 Affects a certain portion of the population. 0:45:08.880 --> 0:45:12.160 But you ain't pulling your weight, buddy, So what do 0:45:12.160 --> 0:45:14.600 you expect the RBA to do? And then you have 0:45:14.719 --> 0:45:18.040 other members of the government running interference, saying, oh, it's 0:45:18.040 --> 0:45:21.640 going too far, it's going too far. But we're not criticizing, 0:45:21.640 --> 0:45:23.839 we're not rebuking the RBA whatsoever. 0:45:24.040 --> 0:45:24.440 Please. 0:45:24.480 --> 0:45:26.440 Angus Taylor's got a good line in this article. He's 0:45:26.480 --> 0:45:28.400 not really known for his zingers, but he said charmers 0:45:28.480 --> 0:45:31.800 is fighting everything except inflation, which is a pretty good point. 0:45:32.160 --> 0:45:33.840 Very quickly, let's go to the Canberra Times. 0:45:33.880 --> 0:45:36.840 This is an interesting story aps Australian public service to 0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:40.319 slash outsourcing. Sounds a little boring, but listen to the 0:45:40.360 --> 0:45:44.600 detailed Defense will cut spending on consultants and labor higher. Okay, 0:45:44.640 --> 0:45:50.160 fair enough, by nearly half a billion dollars this financial year. 0:45:50.239 --> 0:45:53.600 Now that is incredible. Commonwealth departments and agencies had been 0:45:53.680 --> 0:45:57.880 told to cut consultants who were doing core work that 0:45:57.920 --> 0:46:01.680 should be done by public servant. So the Defense Department 0:46:01.760 --> 0:46:04.919 sharpened their pencil and found four hundred and seventy one 0:46:05.080 --> 0:46:08.880 million dollars worth of work that employees should be doing 0:46:09.160 --> 0:46:14.040 that was being outsourced. Absolutely incredible fat that was allowed 0:46:14.040 --> 0:46:15.480 to exist in that department. We're going to go to 0:46:15.520 --> 0:46:18.280 a break when we come back. A UK public servant 0:46:18.320 --> 0:46:21.600 who left top secret documents at a bus stop is 0:46:21.960 --> 0:46:24.839 appointed to review defense. It's coming up in a month, 0:46:28.040 --> 0:46:29.959 all right, So here's a story for all those people 0:46:30.040 --> 0:46:32.160 have stuffed up at work and to spared. My life 0:46:32.200 --> 0:46:34.360 is over, Liz, you can make a comeback. 0:46:34.480 --> 0:46:37.080 This is going to make you feel way better. 0:46:37.160 --> 0:46:41.040 An exit servant in the UK best known for leaving 0:46:41.200 --> 0:46:45.520 top secret documents at a bus stop last June. These 0:46:45.560 --> 0:46:52.040 documents included details regarding the UK forces in Cabul, made 0:46:52.040 --> 0:46:55.360 it really easy if anyone wanted to find them. He's 0:46:55.520 --> 0:46:58.400 now been asked to join a review of. 0:46:58.280 --> 0:47:00.200 The UK's forces. 0:47:00.320 --> 0:47:03.759 The article says such sensitive intelligence is not allowed to 0:47:03.760 --> 0:47:07.560 be taken from government buildings unless properly logged out and 0:47:07.600 --> 0:47:08.600 securely stored. 0:47:08.960 --> 0:47:11.359 However, according to a source who spoke with The. 0:47:11.280 --> 0:47:16.480 Times lapsely that's his name, No pun Intended picked up 0:47:16.520 --> 0:47:19.239 the pages from the entray on his desk and took 0:47:19.280 --> 0:47:22.040 them home with him. It was the following morning when 0:47:22.080 --> 0:47:24.000 they fell out of his bag as he was rushing 0:47:24.000 --> 0:47:26.480 to work, before they were found wet and piled up 0:47:26.480 --> 0:47:30.400 at the bus stop before being dried out and handed over. 0:47:30.600 --> 0:47:34.400 Can you imagine if someone with nefarious ideas had discovered 0:47:34.440 --> 0:47:39.240 these first operations into able come to a grinding stop 0:47:39.600 --> 0:47:41.720 thanks to a blow called lap Speed. 0:47:41.960 --> 0:47:44.520 He's now been appointed to this committee to review the 0:47:44.560 --> 0:47:47.160 British defense. I guess his first point of review will 0:47:47.200 --> 0:47:50.160 be don't let people like me anywhere near defense? 0:47:50.760 --> 0:47:53.680 Like is he the one you want defending you? Like 0:47:54.440 --> 0:47:57.200 I would say if you really wanted to bugger up 0:47:57.200 --> 0:47:59.720 a war, he'd be the guy to get on side. 0:48:00.160 --> 0:48:03.000 Refeign Nation in the world should now be trying to 0:48:03.040 --> 0:48:05.680 get in Lapsley's pocket so that he can go in 0:48:05.719 --> 0:48:08.080 there and stuff up the UK Defense Force as much 0:48:08.120 --> 0:48:08.760 as possible. 0:48:08.880 --> 0:48:11.399 Because it sounds like the sort of thing he might do. 0:48:11.520 --> 0:48:14.480 They should take a leaf out of the book at 0:48:14.480 --> 0:48:17.320 the federal government here in Canberra, which is actually now 0:48:17.600 --> 0:48:20.720 getting rid of consultants. As we said before, and before 0:48:20.760 --> 0:48:23.040 we leave you tonight, I have to tell you about 0:48:23.080 --> 0:48:26.240 a crime against humanity. And this is a real crime 0:48:26.760 --> 0:48:30.560 against humanity. Tin spaghetti is one thing, but Heines has 0:48:30.640 --> 0:48:37.000 now introduced in the UK tinned spaghetti carbonara. No, I 0:48:37.040 --> 0:48:40.160 am not joking. This is a dish that can never 0:48:40.680 --> 0:48:43.279 ever be put in a can. It is a dish that, 0:48:43.400 --> 0:48:48.240 by the way, can never ever have cream in the source. 0:48:48.400 --> 0:48:52.279 And you can just imagine how the Italians have responded 0:48:52.320 --> 0:48:56.200 to this lunacy. The Italian Tourism minister, he said, Italian 0:48:56.239 --> 0:48:57.480 cuisine is a serious thing. 0:48:57.960 --> 0:49:00.000 As Alberto Sawt, he would say. 0:48:59.800 --> 0:49:03.480 In an American in Rome, I give this canned carbonara 0:49:03.920 --> 0:49:06.880 to the mouse. I wouldn't even give it to a mouse, 0:49:06.960 --> 0:49:10.320 the poor bloody mouse having to eat that poor excuse 0:49:10.360 --> 0:49:13.680 for carbonara. If you are eating that, you really need 0:49:13.719 --> 0:49:15.320 to reassess your life choices. 0:49:15.360 --> 0:49:16.400 That is discussed. 0:49:16.560 --> 0:49:18.000 I haven't had dinner. I'm going to try and find 0:49:18.000 --> 0:49:19.920 a can on the way home. That's it from us. 0:49:19.960 --> 0:49:22.080 Stick around coming up is for readA Penney show.