Speaker 1: Live on Sky News. This is Sharry.
Speaker 2: Good Evening will tonight.
Speaker 3: We're standing by for breaking news from President Trump's emergency
Speaker 3: meeting in the Situation Room.
Speaker 2: The world waits to hear if.
Speaker 3: America will join Israel's fight against Iran. Elin Levy will
Speaker 3: join me live from Israel, and we'll cross to the
Speaker 3: Australians Jonni Bashan and Leah Mendes in Tel Aviv. Trump
Speaker 3: snubs Albanezi in a humiliating move showing just how irrelevant
Speaker 3: Australia has become under his leadership. Holly Hughes and Broman
Speaker 3: Bishop will give their view in a moment, And how
Speaker 3: do Iranians feel about Israel's war on the Islamic Republic
Speaker 3: or two Iranians will join me on the show this evening.
Speaker 3: Plus the government accused of using super funds as it's piggybank.
Speaker 3: Camer Milner and Andrew Caswell will be here later. But
Speaker 3: first to a dramatic day as Donald Trump quit the
Speaker 3: G seven in Canada to hold an emergency national security
Speaker 3: meeting in the Situation Room. Back in Washington, the President
Speaker 3: signaled he's prepared to join the war, declaring Iran can't
Speaker 3: have a nuclear weapon. And that Tehran civilians should evacuate.
Speaker 3: American carriers and aircraft are also being deployed to the
Speaker 3: Middle East.
Speaker 2: Well. International leaders hope.
Speaker 3: That America and Iran may still return to the negotiating table,
Speaker 3: but in my view this is increasingly unlikely. Trump is
Speaker 3: clearly leaning towards backing Israel to finish the job, as
Speaker 3: he's being urged to do by experienced rational heads. He's
Speaker 3: clearly impressed with Israel's astonishing operation that's unprecedented this side
Speaker 3: of World War II, and Israel has now crippled Iran's
Speaker 3: propaganda arm, killed most senior military leaders, and damage both
Speaker 3: nuclear and military ballistic missile sites, and Israel continues to
Speaker 3: press ahead with its offensive. This was the dramatic moment
Speaker 3: in Israeli missile hit an Iranian state owned media company
Speaker 3: during a live broadcast.
Speaker 2: Happy Happy Gas at.
Speaker 3: Fay I mean, it's unbelievable. It's unprecedented to see something
Speaker 3: like it, and that sort of power play is as
Speaker 3: significant as a political assassination. It's taking back control or
Speaker 3: trying to of the regime's narrative and trying to empower
Speaker 3: Iranians to rise up. First, Israel took control of a
Speaker 3: Iran's air defenses and now Iran's arsenal of missiles are
Speaker 3: reportedly diminishing after Israel successfully destroyed a third of its launchers.
Speaker 3: Israel has also taken out a growing number of its
Speaker 3: top military commanders and nuclear scientists. They include these figures,
Speaker 3: Major General Muhammad Bagheri, General Hussein Salami, nuclear scientist Feriduna Basi,
Speaker 3: top military commander Ali Shadmani intelligence chief Mohammad Kazmi. And
Speaker 3: it now seems that Supreme Leader Ayatola Ali Kamani has
Speaker 3: few remaining friends Nettagna, who has even left open the
Speaker 3: option of taking him out too. It's a point he
Speaker 3: hinted at in an interview today.
Speaker 4: The president flatly rejected a plan, an opportunity that the
Speaker 4: you that the israelis I had to take out the
Speaker 4: supremely do you understand his concern? My understanding is his
Speaker 4: concern is that this would escalate the conflict beyond where
Speaker 4: it is already.
Speaker 1: It's not going to escalate the conflict. It's going to
Speaker 1: end the conflict.
Speaker 2: We've had half a century of conflict spread by this regime.
Speaker 3: So Nata Nyahu, they're saying it's not going to escalate
Speaker 3: the conflict, it would end it well. If Kimani isn't
Speaker 3: already in hiding, he will be now. And so it's
Speaker 3: only at this stage that the regime is on its
Speaker 3: knees that Iran suddenly wants to engage in talks.
Speaker 2: But it may just be too little, too late.
Speaker 3: With Trump writing that Iran should have signed the deal
Speaker 3: I told them to sign, he says, what a shame
Speaker 3: and waste of human life. Simply stated Iran cannot have
Speaker 3: a nuclear weapon. He says, he said it over and
Speaker 3: over again, and he says everyone should immediately evacuate Tehran.
Speaker 3: He also later decl declared that there would be no ceasefire.
Speaker 3: He said that something big is coming. So we're waiting
Speaker 3: to hear news of that. And Trump has been under
Speaker 3: pressure from MAGA isolationists not to join Israel in the
Speaker 3: war against Iran's nuclear program. Now, I mentioned last night
Speaker 3: that these figures include Tucker Carlson.
Speaker 5: I feel like I've been hearing that Iran is weeks
Speaker 5: away from nuclear weapon for bid least twenty five years.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 3: Trump today took back control of the American First notion
Speaker 3: and he posted it on truth social that America first
Speaker 3: means great many, a great many things, including the fact
Speaker 3: that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. And he also
Speaker 3: directly responded to Tucker Carlson in another post, saying, somebody
Speaker 3: please explain to Kouki Tucker Carson that Iran cannot have
Speaker 3: a nuclear weapon. Now, these posts from the President today
Speaker 3: are crucial because figures like Carlson have been trying to
Speaker 3: claim ownership of the America First agenda.
Speaker 2: But America First does.
Speaker 3: Not mean sitting back while our enemies develop nukes, and
Speaker 3: it does not mean platforming Hitler apologists or whipping up
Speaker 3: racism against Jews and Israelis. Well, this rift in the
Speaker 3: Maga movement between the isolationists and the traditional conservative Republicans
Speaker 3: will now deepen, and there's an anxious weight as well
Speaker 3: as Trump decides whether to negotiate with Iran or unleash
Speaker 3: the Mother of All bombs to destroy the nuclear sites
Speaker 3: that are otherwise impenetrable. And what Trump decides matters more
Speaker 3: than anything. America's bunkerbusters are desperately needed to obliterate Iran's
Speaker 3: nuclear production. Yet even as Tehran indicates its desire now
Speaker 3: to talk, there's no sign it would give us up
Speaker 3: its long held goal for nuclear weapons, and Israel is
Speaker 3: still expressing every intent to destroy then nuclear sites militarily.
Speaker 3: And it's a point Israel's ambassador to the United States,
Speaker 3: Yehiel later confirmed today.
Speaker 7: We've always been ready to go to the negotiating table.
Speaker 7: The problem is that the Iranians have been saying, let's
Speaker 7: negotiate for fifteen years at the same time they're racing
Speaker 7: towards a nuclear bomb. What really amazes me about the
Speaker 7: G seven is that the only leader there who understands
Speaker 7: history and understands where we should be going into the
Speaker 7: future seem to see President Trump. The European leaders are
Speaker 7: repeating the same mistake they made eighty years ago when
Speaker 7: there was a little guy with a mustache running around
Speaker 7: Europe saying he was going to annihilate the Jews and
Speaker 7: was threatening the countries around him, was spreading chaos around Europe,
Speaker 7: and the European leaders said, no, now, let's appease them.
Speaker 1: It's going to be okay.
Speaker 3: And the ambassador also said in that interview to expect
Speaker 3: more astonishing surprises in the coming days.
Speaker 7: Our commitment is to eliminate and we have some surprises
Speaker 7: up our sleeves. There are still a lot of things
Speaker 7: that we can do, and.
Speaker 3: He said those surprises would be as great as the
Speaker 3: Hesbela pager operation.
Speaker 2: So we'll see.
Speaker 3: And he made the same point that I did here
Speaker 3: last night, that Israel's action now is to ensure a
Speaker 3: future of peace, not more war. And this is a
Speaker 3: vision that Nedinnja, who has been building towards for a
Speaker 3: long time. But you can't reach peace without eliminating the
Speaker 3: threats against you.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 2: When I met with.
Speaker 3: Nedinyahu in Jerusalem in October, was a privilege to have
Speaker 3: that opportunity, and he spoke about his vision for the region.
Speaker 2: I asked him about it, and.
Speaker 3: He said it included removing the existential threat from Iran
Speaker 3: and building stronger ties with the modern Arab nations. But
Speaker 3: the Prime Minister said that I can and share with
Speaker 3: you three things that he spoke about Netinyao, who spoke
Speaker 3: strongly about the threat of Iran. He said the threat
Speaker 3: of Iran is not only to Israel's survival, but to
Speaker 3: the Middle East and to Western civilization.
Speaker 2: He said that Israel.
Speaker 3: Is fighting the broader war against terrorists who want to
Speaker 3: take us all back to the dark ages, and with
Speaker 3: the war raging, he spoke about the prospect of peace.
Speaker 2: He still hopes.
Speaker 3: He said that the deal to normalize relations with Saudi
Speaker 3: Arabia will go ahead. I can tell you that the
Speaker 3: criticism from Washington that Nettaya, who doesn't have a plan,
Speaker 3: or that he doesn't know what he's doing in this war,
Speaker 3: is utterly wrong. After speaking with him at length, he
Speaker 3: does have a clear strategy for the war, and he
Speaker 3: outlined it. It's obvious his motive is the survival of
Speaker 3: the Jewish state, but he's also fi the terrorists and
Speaker 3: Iran to protect the.
Speaker 2: World from dark forces.
Speaker 3: And it's why any day now we're expecting Israel to
Speaker 3: take on Iran and not let the evil Aotolas live
Speaker 3: out their dream to destroy Israel, and not just Israel, but.
Speaker 2: All of us in the West.
Speaker 3: So eight months on from my report in Israel, we
Speaker 3: are now finally seeing Natanyahu's vision begin to come to fruition,
Speaker 3: and the strategy is smart. Israel has all but destroyed
Speaker 3: Iran's proxies and hamas and Hezbela, which leaves Tehran vulnerable.
Speaker 3: It doesn't have its terrorist armies to launch missiles and
Speaker 3: rockets across the border. And if Trump does have the
Speaker 3: courage to join Israel. This could end the financing of
Speaker 3: terrorism and create a safer, more secure, more prosperous Middle
Speaker 3: East than at.
Speaker 2: Any point in living memory.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: Fox News host Mike Levine makes a similar point in
Speaker 3: The New York Post today, Mark Levin, I should say
Speaker 3: in his article about how isolationism is the same as appeasement,
Speaker 3: it was a great article.
Speaker 2: He says.
Speaker 3: If all goes well, it will result in a transformed
Speaker 3: Middle East, an expansion of the Abraham Accords, and a
Speaker 3: world free of a nuclear terror regime. They Nedenyahu and
Speaker 3: Trump are achieving what forty seven years of prior policies
Speaker 3: have not.
Speaker 2: This is a real peace plan, and.
Speaker 3: Former Secretary of State Mike Pompeio is also lending his
Speaker 3: voice to the argument that America needs to step in.
Speaker 5: We should help Israel achieve its ultimate objective, whether that's
Speaker 5: providing those specialized ammunition our munitions rather or a set
Speaker 5: of other operations that the Israelis I am confident have
Speaker 5: in their arsenal. We should facilitate the end of Fortat.
Speaker 5: We should make sure it goes away.
Speaker 3: Isn't it a that Pompeios no longer part of Trump's
Speaker 3: in a circle. It's extraordinary to me as well. Another
Speaker 3: point that we saw hundreds of thousands protests to free
Speaker 3: Palestine Palestine, but where are the protesters to free Iran?
Speaker 3: This shows that for the left in politics, in the media,
Speaker 3: in the public, it's not about the lives of Palestinians
Speaker 3: or Iranians. They don't care about that. It's only about
Speaker 3: attacking Israel. And there's still very little gratitude toward Israel
Speaker 3: for having the courage to take on this evil, tyrannical
Speaker 3: Islamist regime where women are cruelly oppressed, there's no freedom
Speaker 3: of speech and no human rights, but none of that
Speaker 3: matters to the woke left. The only thing they care
Speaker 3: about is delegitimizing Israel.
Speaker 2: And we'll come back to Israel.
Speaker 3: We've got Janni Bishan and Leah Mend's in Tellivision shortly,
Speaker 3: plus Elon Levy later in the show. Now, let's bring
Speaker 3: in our panel tonight, former Speaker of the House from
Speaker 3: and Bishop and outgoing Liberal Senator Holly Hughes.
Speaker 2: Welcome to you both.
Speaker 3: Robin, do you agree that the United States at this
Speaker 3: point needs to step in and help completely destroy photo
Speaker 3: in particular the nuclear sites that Israel just doesn't have
Speaker 3: the ability to do so militarily.
Speaker 9: Well, I think Donald Trump's made it quite clear that
Speaker 9: he will give support to Israel to see that it
Speaker 9: is impossible for Iran to have an atomic bomb, and
Speaker 9: I think the messaging he set out says that he
Speaker 9: will do whatever he has to do to see that occur.
Speaker 9: And I don't think he's in this time calling anyone's bluff.
Speaker 2: I think he needs it.
Speaker 9: And I think the fact that Australia has been so
Speaker 9: pathetic in not supporting any of the actions that Israel
Speaker 9: has taken and the initiative that Trump is taking has
Speaker 9: resulted in Albanesi being snubbed.
Speaker 2: Very, very publicly.
Speaker 9: And I think I'm embarrassed to see prime minister of
Speaker 9: my nation so humiliated because he was lacking encourage. And
Speaker 9: when I see the words of Penny Wong and I
Speaker 9: look at the relationship between China and Iran, I asked myself,
Speaker 9: are we being influenced by the Chinese Communist parties policies
Speaker 9: in what we are doing with regard to the Middle East?
Speaker 9: And I think that's something it needs to be explored.
Speaker 2: It's an interesting question.
Speaker 3: I want to come back to Trump's snub of Albanize
Speaker 3: in a minute, But Holly, I just want to stick
Speaker 3: with the situation in the Middle East. I think it
Speaker 3: is really worrying to see that the Republican movement has
Speaker 3: been hijacked by maga isolationists who are racist, selfish and
Speaker 3: have this narrow minded view of the world where clearly
Speaker 3: they don't think America should be the leader of the
Speaker 3: free world.
Speaker 10: Well, we know when we sort of look at politics
Speaker 10: and we see the left and the right, and if
Speaker 10: you go far enough, they come back together again. And
Speaker 10: if you look at what's happened with some of those
Speaker 10: on the far left and their pro Palestinian stance, and
Speaker 10: then some on the far right that have actually moved
Speaker 10: to an anti Israel stance, you can see them sort
Speaker 10: of conjoining together. And what I think is a really
Speaker 10: scary group that should never sort of be left alone
Speaker 10: and unsupervised. And now they're all singing from the same
Speaker 10: song sheet. I mean, I think what Bibby's been doing
Speaker 10: is just extraordinary. And the commentary that Israel needs the
Speaker 10: US to come in, and I'm sure it would be
Speaker 10: incredibly helpful and supportive, but I have incredible faith in
Speaker 10: what Mossad and the Idea have coming next. I think
Speaker 10: they're big surprises, tend to be quite spectacular, so he's
Speaker 10: hoping there's a good one. But to your point about
Speaker 10: Iran and the left and the absolute poor treatment human rights,
Speaker 10: lack of particularly for women, the rights of LGBTI posted today,
Speaker 10: support for the Iranian people or support for Iran. I
Speaker 10: think we could buy a few of them, or one
Speaker 10: way ticket over to Iran, because I think we know
Speaker 10: how they'd be welcomed. It's the same when they got
Speaker 10: to Palestine.
Speaker 3: Sure, but if they support the Iranians, they should be
Speaker 3: supporting Israel's.
Speaker 2: These people don't understand.
Speaker 10: They don't understand that would be a technical actually understanding
Speaker 10: the oppression of the Iranian people by this regime as
Speaker 10: opposed to supporting this regime. But as you say, they're
Speaker 10: just anti USY.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, let's return to the fact that Trump
Speaker 3: canceled his meeting with alban Easy today. Now, of course,
Speaker 3: on one hand, that's understandable. He had to rush back
Speaker 3: to the Middle East. But he could have organized another
Speaker 3: time to have the meeting. He could have quickly had it.
Speaker 3: I mean, he did have time for other meetings with
Speaker 3: other world leaders. The truth is that Alberanizi's left wing
Speaker 3: ideology and offensive statements toward Israel and America, who he's
Speaker 3: treated with disdain, while as Bronwin says, he's been closing
Speaker 3: up to China.
Speaker 2: This has cost him.
Speaker 3: So it has put Australia, when it's put Alberizi in
Speaker 3: an embarrassing situation, but it's making Australia increasingly irrelevant when
Speaker 3: it comes to foreign policy discussions. And I think Dave
Speaker 3: Shima made this point really well, and Chris Kenny earlier.
Speaker 11: Have a look Pennywong and Anthony Alberanzi when it comes
Speaker 11: to the Middle East, we've made ourselves irrelevant. You know,
Speaker 11: the first person that Pennywong spoke to after this Israel
Speaker 11: around conflict broke was the Iranian Foreign Minister, not the
Speaker 11: Israeli Prime Minister, not other allies.
Speaker 1: As far as i'm a w.
Speaker 2: I think that really sums it up. Bromwin.
Speaker 3: What Dave said, The first person, as far as we
Speaker 3: all know that pennyone spoke to it was the Iranian
Speaker 3: Foreign Minister.
Speaker 2: What is going on?
Speaker 9: Well, that just reinforces the point I made are we're
Speaker 9: being influenced by the statements Wong and Albanesi are making,
Speaker 9: because that is the Chinese Communist Party's attitude, and the
Speaker 9: fact that he would go or rather she would go
Speaker 9: and speak to the Iranian ambassador simply reinforces that point
Speaker 9: to my mind. I mean, China buys its oil from Iran.
Speaker 9: It is a close relationship. If you're a Chinese citizen,
Speaker 9: you can go and stay for twenty one days in Iran.
Speaker 2: Without a visa.
Speaker 9: It's a very close relationship. And we've seen this government
Speaker 9: of ours when we've had Chinese warships in our waters,
Speaker 9: when we've had members of our own defense forces misadventured
Speaker 9: or attacked.
Speaker 2: Use whatever word you like.
Speaker 9: There was not a word of criticism. So I am
Speaker 9: very worried about the subversive way. Perhaps that's too strong
Speaker 9: a word, but to me, there's something going on that
Speaker 9: doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2: I agree, I.
Speaker 3: Completely agree, Holly, what do you think about this? I
Speaker 3: agree with what Dave Sharma said that Albanisi and Pennywong
Speaker 3: through their foreign policy positions on our allies, including the
Speaker 3: derogatory way they often speak about Albani.
Speaker 2: President Trump.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just meant that we're no longer given
Speaker 3: a seat at the table.
Speaker 2: Well, we're not relevant.
Speaker 10: And I think what Albanezi and Wong and others' comments
Speaker 10: Kevin Wright, our ambassador to the United States, also has
Speaker 10: said about Donald Trump in the past, would probably not
Speaker 10: make us the higher priority for them to become best
Speaker 10: buds with. But I think what was interesting, and you know,
Speaker 10: when you look at Prime Minister Karney, he hosted sort
Speaker 10: of the tier two leaders about an hour hour and
Speaker 10: a half away from where the G seven was being hosted,
Speaker 10: and so there was sort of no crossover. There was
Speaker 10: no top tier and second tier leader dinner together tonight,
Speaker 10: so there was no opportunity for just a quiet chat
Speaker 10: over dinner before Donald Trump left because Prime Minister Karney
Speaker 10: kept in Seraph whereas Boris Johnson had previously Scott Morrison
Speaker 10: had everyone together and had those organizations working more closely.
Speaker 10: So you know, his Prime Minister Cannie really that kin
Speaker 10: on having us at the table as well.
Speaker 9: I just think there's another point that's important. There was
Speaker 9: a great fanfare, what a wonderful job k rud had
Speaker 9: done in organizing this meeting. We've got a time, It's
Speaker 9: twenty minutes. This is the meeting time. What a fantastic
Speaker 9: job he's done with his insights and his connections. He
Speaker 9: actually went to Canada with the Prime Minister to hold
Speaker 9: his hand, which I just find amazing in terms of
Speaker 9: we have diplomatic relations in Canada, but there's k Rudd
Speaker 9: note to hold his hand.
Speaker 12: Now.
Speaker 9: I have seen personally in the chamber of that relationship
Speaker 9: between Kevin Rudd and Albanesi over the years, absolutely, And
Speaker 9: I remember Albanesi hosting a dinner with a group of
Speaker 9: friends in a restaurant I was attending when they were
Speaker 9: planting the coup to get rid of or to put
Speaker 9: Kevin Rudd back for the second time. Yeah, and so
Speaker 9: it's a close relationship. And I think Albin easy depends
Speaker 9: on Kevin Rodd. But Kevin Rodd clearly hasn't got the connection.
Speaker 9: So one of the ramifications is there going to be
Speaker 9: a change in the representation we have in Washington over
Speaker 9: this or are we going to try and spin it away?
Speaker 9: Nothing happened, nothing to see here, It's all.
Speaker 2: It's Drowse fault again. Like everything else, it'll faults. Of course.
Speaker 2: Of course.
Speaker 3: The one limit of hope, though, was that it did
Speaker 3: sound in a way like Trump was backing in awkurs.
Speaker 2: So he was at least nodding his head, have.
Speaker 13: A look, yep, we're proceeding with that. It's a really
Speaker 13: important deal to both of this. I think the person
Speaker 13: that was doing a review, we did a review when
Speaker 13: we came into governments, So that makes good sense to me.
Speaker 13: But it's a really important.
Speaker 2: We're very long time partners and allies and friends, and
Speaker 2: we've become friends in a short period. So he didn't
Speaker 2: directly address aucus.
Speaker 3: He didn't disagree with the sentiment, but I mean, look,
Speaker 3: I already spoke about this last week, Colli. The president
Speaker 3: is using orcus as a bargaining tool to get alb
Speaker 3: and easy to lift his defense spent.
Speaker 10: And you know, I've done a few other shows I
Speaker 10: do Pete Stefanovic of Monday Morning and talking to Matt
Speaker 10: Fisilwait and him using.
Speaker 2: The dollar figure.
Speaker 10: They keep talking about, oh, but we're spending dollars here,
Speaker 10: we're spending dollars here because they cannot acknowledge it's a
Speaker 10: percentage of GDP, and then everyone else absolutely missing the point.
Speaker 10: They don't understand what the issue is, and yet they're
Speaker 10: still trying to spin it of but we're spending ten
Speaker 10: million dollars here, or we're spending fifty billion dollars.
Speaker 2: Not spend not at all.
Speaker 10: And then Richard Miles's you know, we need to know
Speaker 10: what we're going to spend it on. If anyone doesn't
Speaker 10: hasn't realized yet. Defense is really a finance portfolio. You're
Speaker 10: not going down to the local costco to see what
Speaker 10: bullets are on sale. As Defense Minister, it's actually working
Speaker 10: with the brass to make sure that Australia has the
Speaker 10: right strategic responses in place. And you know, these guys
Speaker 10: clearly don't understand how it works, and we look.
Speaker 3: So pathetic compared to a nation with courage and who
Speaker 3: is well equipped like Israel. Absolutely right, Holly Hughes, Broman Bishop,
Speaker 3: thank you both so much.
Speaker 2: Leisure Thanks I Well, that's cross live to Israel now.
Speaker 3: After another night of missiles, but they are fewer in number.
Speaker 3: A supplies dwindle, with Israel destroying at least a third
Speaker 3: of the missile launchers. There were fires, but thankfully no casualties.
Speaker 3: Overnight now two journalists from The Australian went into the
Speaker 3: war zone just as everyone else was trying to leave.
Speaker 3: Leah Mendes and Janni Bishan join me now from Tel Aviv.
Speaker 3: Welcome to you both, Yani. Usually Israelis feel relatively safe
Speaker 3: under the Iron Dome and the other air defense systems,
Speaker 3: but the onslaught of missiles and drones from Iran meant
Speaker 3: that some slipped through. This was inevitable. There were fewer
Speaker 3: though last night. Is there an indication from what you're
Speaker 3: hearing that Iran is running out of arsenal?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 12: I think that's certainly the hope the finner, that they
Speaker 12: run out of their arsenal, the siner life in Israel
Speaker 12: can go back to normal.
Speaker 8: I mean, we've been here.
Speaker 14: A few days.
Speaker 12: If you take a stroll through the streets of Tel Aviv,
Speaker 12: the place is empty. You drive around, there's no one here.
Speaker 12: It's basically Covid esque. Once again, I think it's very
Speaker 12: difficult to know whether the arsenal is actually being depleted,
Speaker 12: because on the one hand, the Iranians are trumpeting every night,
Speaker 12: but tonight it's going to be the really big one
Speaker 12: that we've all been waiting for. And on the other hand,
Speaker 12: we've got statements coming from the Israeli government saying the
Speaker 12: defensive arrays have been annihilated, and they're taking out individual
Speaker 12: launchers in Iran itself. So we're getting conflicting messages from
Speaker 12: both sides. But what I can tell you is that
Speaker 12: from us on the ground here, when the siren goes off,
Speaker 12: when the alert comes through your phone, you're not thinking
Speaker 12: about how many are coming through. You're just running to
Speaker 12: the safe room and just hoping for the best.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and I hope you are turning that.
Speaker 3: Indeed, you both took some incredible footage of the ballistic
Speaker 3: missiles coming in from Iran the night before last.
Speaker 2: I understand it.
Speaker 15: Let's have a look, oh, Liam, tell us what that
Speaker 15: experience was like watching over forty incoming Iranian missiles.
Speaker 14: It was quite not nerve it, but we felt it
Speaker 14: be really important that our audience and your audience, you know,
Speaker 14: see that footage and see what it's like for you know,
Speaker 14: everyone living in Tel Aviv.
Speaker 8: And right across Israel. This has been happening several times
Speaker 8: since we've been here. With the air sirens went off
Speaker 8: about three times yesterday, there was another one today, And
Speaker 8: when we were driving up north towards Haifa and more
Speaker 8: of these ballistic missiles were sent through, we saw some
Speaker 8: of them get intercepted and then one hit an empty
Speaker 8: bus today, so it's something that is constantly happening. But
Speaker 8: we thought it was really important that our audience see this,
Speaker 8: and it was certainly unnerving to see that. But yeah,
Speaker 8: thankfully today nobody died. But in that footage there, I
Speaker 8: think there were several casualties.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there were that night, for sure, Johnnie. We know
Speaker 3: that America is sending carriers and aircraft into the region.
Speaker 3: How much does Israel need the United States to get
Speaker 3: involved here to completely destroy sites like fod Oh?
Speaker 12: Well, I think generally speaking, two hands are probably better
Speaker 12: than one. But the Americans have very good reasons to
Speaker 12: try and stay out of the conflict, and I think
Speaker 12: it probably puts them in a better negotiating position if
Speaker 12: they're not involved. But I think the Israeli perspective would
Speaker 12: obviously be that having the Americans become involved would make
Speaker 12: the job of degrading the Uranian capability to strike at
Speaker 12: Israeli capital cities much easier task. So I'm sure what
Speaker 12: the Israelis have been pushing is for the Americans to
Speaker 12: enter the arena, But we know that the Americans have
Speaker 12: drawn a red line against doing that unless they come
Speaker 12: under attack themselves, and we haven't quite.
Speaker 14: Seen that yet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're waiting to hear the outcome of the emergency
Speaker 3: meeting that chump cord Liam. You also visited the site
Speaker 3: of bat Yam, where as we just spoke about entire
Speaker 3: residential buildings where heat and civilians were killed. Being on
Speaker 3: the ground there when you're in this lockdown like environment
Speaker 3: that Jonni mentioned, what.
Speaker 2: Was it like.
Speaker 8: It's really interesting. There's been a huge change to that
Speaker 8: the entire country since I was here back in October
Speaker 8: and then also in June last year, it was a
Speaker 8: lot more busier, a lot more bustling. You know, people
Speaker 8: were still going out to cafes and restaurants at the moment.
Speaker 8: Cafes restaurants all closed. At bat Yam, it was you know,
Speaker 8: it was quite soln you know, there was there was
Speaker 8: also a lot of emotion from family members there. But
Speaker 8: you know, the residents that are still there, they're saying
Speaker 8: that they're rebuilding, They're not going to leave. None of
Speaker 8: this is going to change their way of life. Incredibly resilient,
Speaker 8: all right.
Speaker 3: Joanie Brashan and Lea Mendes, please stay safe. I know
Speaker 3: you two love an adventure. And look, you're so courageous
Speaker 3: for going over there in the middle of the world.
Speaker 3: And you've both spent a lot of time in Israel,
Speaker 3: particularly you Yanni since October seven. But stay safe and
Speaker 3: we'll speak to you soon. That's still to come. We'll
Speaker 3: speak to Iranians about their reaction to Israel's war. Also
Speaker 3: Elon Levy coming up later. Plus the government sounds accused
Speaker 3: of using super funds as it's piggybank. We'll talk about
Speaker 3: that with Cameron Milner and Andrew Caswell next, welcome back. Well,
Speaker 3: there's a brilliant editorial today in the finn Review about
Speaker 3: Labour super tax.
Speaker 2: And I meanline it's headline says it all.
Speaker 3: It's super funds, not a piggy bank for Labour's pet projects.
Speaker 3: It spells out exactly the concerns we've been speaking about
Speaker 3: with regards to this legislation. And it's a point reiterated
Speaker 3: by former ACTU Secretary Bill Kelty, who on the weekend
Speaker 3: told The Australian that he thinks unrealized capital gains is
Speaker 3: a bad policy. He says it seems a strange thing
Speaker 3: to do. Bad policy is bad policy, whether it's for
Speaker 3: the rich or the poor. Let's bring in now tonight's
Speaker 3: political panel form a chief of staff for Bill Shorten,
Speaker 3: Cameron Milner, former Press Secretary Andrew Carswell, welcome to you
Speaker 3: vote Cameron. You're obviously on the Labour side of politics
Speaker 3: when you have legendary figures like Bill Kelty coming out
Speaker 3: about Labour's legislation to tax unrealized capital gans gains. I
Speaker 3: mean this tells you just how bad the policy is.
Speaker 1: Well, it does.
Speaker 16: And Bill Keurley is the father of supernuation along with
Speaker 16: Paul Keating in Australia, and so when Bill Kenny, Bill
Speaker 16: Kelly speaks, people should listen, people should listen.
Speaker 1: I think Jim.
Speaker 16: Chalmers is in there as a treasurer trying to raise
Speaker 16: money for the endless spinning that the Albanize government's involved in.
Speaker 16: But this even looks like a bad idea now, I
Speaker 16: think Bill Kellty's right.
Speaker 1: This looks like bad policy after bad policy.
Speaker 16: And really we shouldn't be doing that to the superhnoation
Speaker 16: system because it's.
Speaker 1: Not the government's money. It's our money. It's our money.
Speaker 16: It's wages forgone that've gone to super to hold down inflation,
Speaker 16: to holdown.
Speaker 1: Wages going over the top.
Speaker 16: That's savings for Australians. It's not the piggybank of a
Speaker 16: labor government.
Speaker 2: It's a very.
Speaker 3: Principle of it, Andrew, that a government could tax money
Speaker 3: that people don't even have in their pocket.
Speaker 2: Yet.
Speaker 17: Yeah, it's certainly a strange movement. And look, there's no
Speaker 17: one on the necessarily on the labour side of politics
Speaker 17: that's having a look at the start of this policy,
Speaker 17: which is the extra tax on earnings above three million
Speaker 17: dollars in super But they are having a little negle
Speaker 17: at this extra element of taxing underalized gain. So it's
Speaker 17: very clear that they're overregged it by the very people
Speaker 17: on their own side. And it's not just that the
Speaker 17: piggy bankers mentioned before. I mean when governments are giving
Speaker 17: out financial advice on where to invest, generally run in
Speaker 17: the other direction. It's not for governments to tell superannuation
Speaker 17: firms where they need to invest their money. Governments are
Speaker 17: terrible at investing tax payer money, so why should we
Speaker 17: believe them that they'll be beneficial tax for super anuits.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know exactly.
Speaker 3: I want to turn and ask you both about how
Speaker 3: the President of the United States counseled the meeting with
Speaker 3: alban Easy at the G seven today. Now you know
Speaker 3: one of the things that Trump was going to put
Speaker 3: on the table was defense spending. It still kind of
Speaker 3: flaws me, Cameron that the alban Ezy government is paying
Speaker 3: twenty percent of students hextat, yet won't increase our defense
Speaker 3: spending from less than two percent that it is now
Speaker 3: just under two percent, while you've got Europe committing to
Speaker 3: five percent.
Speaker 16: That's right, and look, we have to spend an awful
Speaker 16: lot more on defense because we're in a very uncertain
Speaker 16: time and you only have to look to Israel to
Speaker 16: look for we need to defend yourself against.
Speaker 1: Some of the really hostile people. Israel's done the right thing.
Speaker 16: They've actually got self defense, They've actually invested in military
Speaker 16: capacity for their own self defense. Australias is relying on
Speaker 16: the US to come in.
Speaker 1: That's not good enough.
Speaker 16: I mean we need to add an NDIS scheme a
Speaker 16: year to our defense budget. We need to add another
Speaker 16: fifty billion dollars a year to even come up to
Speaker 16: the three percent margin Shari, which is still well below
Speaker 16: as you say, the Europeans, so that we're so far
Speaker 16: behind and we're expecting others to do the heavy lifting
Speaker 16: rather than a wealthy nation like ourselves actually s being
Speaker 16: enough to defend ourselves and actually have the armaments to
Speaker 16: self defend.
Speaker 3: Indeed, Andrew, what do you think it says about how
Speaker 3: the Trump administration and the President views Australia at the
Speaker 3: moment that alban Easy and Rudd can spend months working
Speaker 3: on trying to pull off a meeting and then it's
Speaker 3: just canceled, you know, without a second thought at the
Speaker 3: last minute.
Speaker 17: Well we're at the back of the queue, aren't we.
Speaker 17: And it's not just the major partners that are getting
Speaker 17: meetings with Trump. It's Norway, it's Syria, it's Jordan, it's Argentina,
Speaker 17: it's Ireland. They all have had face to face meetings.
Speaker 17: We've had eight months since Trump was elected, and yet
Speaker 17: we still don't have a face to face money. So
Speaker 17: it's not only embarrassing, but it reflects poorly on our diplomacy.
Speaker 18: But it already was a little embarrassing anyway.
Speaker 17: I mean, the Albanezy meeting was the last meeting scheduled
Speaker 17: for Trump at the G seven, the last meeting on
Speaker 17: the last day the Engines of Air Force one would
Speaker 17: have been warming as the two leaders met. I mean,
Speaker 17: the cleaners would have been packing up the chairs in
Speaker 17: the auditorium.
Speaker 18: With the last have off the rank.
Speaker 17: So that goes to show how they view us at
Speaker 17: the moment. And is it any wonder from their perspective
Speaker 17: when we continually push back on the demands of a
Speaker 17: partner and an ally that he's trying to do the
Speaker 17: right thing.
Speaker 18: In the world.
Speaker 3: Exactly Camera, Milt, as usual, you wrote an excellent column
Speaker 3: in The Nightly and you make the point how out
Speaker 3: of step Albanisi and Foreign Minister Pennywong.
Speaker 2: Are with the values of our allies.
Speaker 3: How confused they are and just completely at odds.
Speaker 2: And this is part of the problem, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Absolutely?
Speaker 16: I mean, our foreign policy under Wong has lurched the left.
Speaker 16: Albanie acquiesces when it comes to Israel, acquiesce is when
Speaker 16: it comes to Islamic.
Speaker 1: Extremism in Australia.
Speaker 16: But the worst thing, the worst thing, Shahi, is the
Speaker 16: eighty semitism on Albo's watch.
Speaker 1: It is appalling.
Speaker 16: It's the worst I've seen in my lifetime, Shahi, and
Speaker 16: on Albow's watch, and he's done nothing about it.
Speaker 1: And yet we have Israel under attack from Iran.
Speaker 16: The US they're protecting, you know, the Israelis on the
Speaker 16: ground as well, and our prime ministers they are allowing
Speaker 16: synagogues to burn, cars, to b firebombed restaurants, to be graffeitied.
Speaker 16: I mean, on Albo's watch, the Jewish community Australia is
Speaker 16: so much less safe than it used to be. And
Speaker 16: that's what President Trump and the rest of the world
Speaker 16: sees Australia doing under Albo's watch, is that Jewish Australians
Speaker 16: are under more threat and any Semitism is boiling over
Speaker 16: in this country.
Speaker 3: No, it is indeed an issue I care a lot about,
Speaker 3: as you know.
Speaker 2: But Andrew, we all do, we all do, thank you.
Speaker 3: I mean, I basically wouldn't have anyone on this program
Speaker 3: who didn't care about anti Semitism, because that's not caring
Speaker 3: about racism. But Andrew, I think the failure too, and
Speaker 3: it's not just this one meeting with President Trump, but
Speaker 3: it's to have any sort of working relationship with the
Speaker 3: United States at a political level. You know, our officials
Speaker 3: in the national security space, in the intelligence spaces, that's
Speaker 3: all fine, but at a political level, we don't even
Speaker 3: have a basic dialogue with the United States, and ultimately, Andrew,
Speaker 3: this does come down to Penny Wong as foreign minister,
Speaker 3: doesn't it, because it's her foreign policy positions that are
Speaker 3: now so completely at odds with where America stands.
Speaker 17: Well, there's just been no rapport built with the Trump administration.
Speaker 17: There's been no attempt to do that in a genuine way.
Speaker 17: It's a very much a business like approach to what
Speaker 17: should be a friendship and an alliance. And that goes
Speaker 17: for Pennywong, that goes for Anthony Albanisi, but it also
Speaker 17: goes for Kevin rud as well.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a.
Speaker 17: US an ambassador to the US that can't even get
Speaker 17: in the West Wing, let.
Speaker 1: Alone the Oval Office.
Speaker 17: So there's a fundamental breakdown in the diplomacy there. And
Speaker 17: it's the approach that this government has taken that has
Speaker 17: severed the ties almost in the relationship that previous prominences
Speaker 17: had built steadily, not just with Republican presidents but Democratic
Speaker 17: presidents as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: Look, I don't think you can say you're a good
Speaker 3: foreign minister or Prime minister if you're destroying the relationship
Speaker 3: with our most important partner. In the United States. All right,
Speaker 3: Cameron Andrew, thank you both so much for your time.
Speaker 3: Now still to come, we'll get the latest from Israel
Speaker 3: as Trump holds his situation room meeting. Elon Levy will
Speaker 3: be on later. But first, how Iranians feel about Israel's war.
Speaker 2: That's next. Welcome back.
Speaker 3: Well, it's not spoken about enough, but Iran has a
Speaker 3: brutal tyrannical dictatorship where Sharia law is strictly adhere to
Speaker 3: the morality. Police arrest and even kill women who refuse
Speaker 3: to wear the veil. There were protests led by women
Speaker 3: across Iran when sixteen year old Masha Jinna Amani died
Speaker 3: while in police custody. The police even used a lethal
Speaker 3: force against the protesters. Some were arrested, others later faced
Speaker 3: the death penalty simply for standing up for human rights.
Speaker 3: This is why many Iranians welcome Israel's intervention at the moment.
Speaker 3: And joining me now are the founders of the Australian
Speaker 3: Iranian Patriots Association. Minu Tusi, great to see you, and
Speaker 3: Mani Tagisode wonderful to see you as well. Now I
Speaker 3: want to start with you know what life is like
Speaker 3: at the moment, Minu and whether you think from the
Speaker 3: family and friends that you have in Iran, how they're
Speaker 3: receiving Israel's war on the military and nuclear and military leadership.
Speaker 3: At the moment, are Iranians welcoming this move?
Speaker 19: I would say yes, because the majority of people actually
Speaker 19: is suffering from dear supresse regime for forty seven years,
Speaker 19: and this time is a time when Israel actually taking
Speaker 19: Iran was actually caused by the Islamic Republic regime of Iran.
Speaker 19: So of course people in Iran loves Jewish people in Israel,
Speaker 19: and we actually sudden that this war, unwanted war happened
Speaker 19: by the Islamic Republic regime of Iran. This is not
Speaker 19: actually war between the people of Iran and Israel. This
Speaker 19: is war that caused and made by the Zlamik Republican regime.
Speaker 19: So people in Iran at the moment, they I would say,
Speaker 19: they accepted this war because that's maybe the only hope
Speaker 19: they can get rid of this brutal regime. So of
Speaker 19: course there should be.
Speaker 2: A fear behind that.
Speaker 19: But what I'm seeing during these days, people are actually
Speaker 19: chanted at night and they tried to come in the
Speaker 19: street and demonstrated against this regime.
Speaker 3: You're saying that at night, they're chanting and demonstrating against
Speaker 3: this regime at the moment.
Speaker 2: Yes, and that's.
Speaker 3: Obviously taking a big risk in doing so, because they
Speaker 3: could be severely punished for that.
Speaker 2: Yes, money, let's bring you in. Now.
Speaker 3: What do you hope will be the outcome of Israel's
Speaker 3: war here?
Speaker 6: Actually, I wanted to say to your audiences and the
Speaker 6: war that this is not our war. This is not
Speaker 6: the war between Iranian people and the State of Israel.
Speaker 6: This is the war it's happened because of the behavior
Speaker 6: by Islamic regime seeking for nuclear and weaponry and using
Speaker 6: against the Jews, against Israel and get it all the
Speaker 6: street from the map. This is not just a slogan.
Speaker 6: They have done it. They have supported hamas in two
Speaker 6: years ago, in the seventh October massacre by Theahamas terrorists.
Speaker 6: You know, it's not like you know, it's like a claim.
Speaker 6: They have done it and now they have to pay
Speaker 6: for it. You know, the run in people they knew
Speaker 6: about that. The Israel government than the Jewish people. They
Speaker 6: are not their enemy. The enemy is inside, the enemy
Speaker 6: of the Islamic regime who killed more than more than
Speaker 6: eight hundred, you know, saint boys and gays on these
Speaker 6: streets two years ago when the Massaamini movement started, you know,
Speaker 6: and it was not just once. Five years ago they
Speaker 6: killed another protessor on the streets because of the you know,
Speaker 6: they raised up the price of the field, the petrol.
Speaker 6: It's they are tourists and many times we announce on
Speaker 6: the streets of the Australia the other parts of the world,
Speaker 6: do not make appeacement with this regime, you know, do
Speaker 6: not you know, make a diplomatic you know, negotiation with
Speaker 6: that because they are occupied our country. Yeah, no, Iran
Speaker 6: is similar like occupied country.
Speaker 2: You know, so well said so well, said Minu.
Speaker 3: We've seen Israel and the United States call on Iranians
Speaker 3: to rise up. Do you want there to be regime change?
Speaker 19: One hundred percent sure yes, because during this forty seven
Speaker 19: years after revolution, I would say this is wrong PubL
Speaker 19: regime occupied the country and how stage the people. So
Speaker 19: now it's the time, it's actually the only golden time
Speaker 19: they can raise up. They was and they want to
Speaker 19: one hundred percent definitely regime change. They don't want any
Speaker 19: reform to this existing regime. They just want to regime change.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, menu MANI thank you both so much
Speaker 3: for your time.
Speaker 2: Really appreciate it.
Speaker 19: Thank you so much, Thank you so much for having us.
Speaker 2: No, it's wonderful to have you all.
Speaker 3: Right, after the break, we'll cross live to Israel after
Speaker 3: another night of strikes, and former Israeli governments spokesman Elon
Speaker 3: Levy is there.
Speaker 2: He joined me next.
Speaker 3: All right, let's bring in now farm Israeli government spokesman
Speaker 3: Elon Levy, Elon, great to see you again. Look, the
Speaker 3: biggest question we're all waiting to the whole world's waiting
Speaker 3: to hear, is whether President Trump has come to a
Speaker 3: decision in the situation room.
Speaker 2: How much does.
Speaker 3: Israel need America's assistance at this point?
Speaker 20: Well Oedroel is not banking on the United States getting
Speaker 20: drawn into this war. Israel went alone against the Iranian regime,
Speaker 20: knowing that with our backs against the wall, we're the
Speaker 20: ones who are going to save the Middle East from
Speaker 20: a nuclear Iran.
Speaker 18: And Israel has plans to do that. But you know what, I.
Speaker 20: Think President Trump likes a winner, and he's noticed that
Speaker 20: Israel is winning. It controls the skies of Iran, it's
Speaker 20: intercepting Iranian ballistic missiles in Iran overnight. It killed the
Speaker 20: head of the Iranian military. It was only in the
Speaker 20: job for four days because his predecessor was killed on Friday,
Speaker 20: and Trump will now be considering whether to deliver the
Speaker 20: death blow to the Iranian nuclear program. There is a
Speaker 20: nuclear facility buried deep under a mountain four dough. It's
Speaker 20: buried there because it is a nuclear weapons program. Iran
Speaker 20: wants to keep its nuclear weapons program safe. And of
Speaker 20: course Israel is not publicizing to the world what its
Speaker 20: abilities are to deliver the final blow against the Iranian
Speaker 20: nuclear program. But conventional wisdom is that can only be
Speaker 20: done from the air using an American B two bomber.
Speaker 20: And I'm sure that's one of the things President Trump
Speaker 20: will be considering now whether, with Israel so completely winning
Speaker 20: this war against Iran, the United States wants to deliver
Speaker 20: the death blow to its nuclear program.
Speaker 3: I mean, the military success has been astonishing, and the
Speaker 3: fact that there were undercover more sad operatives opera in Iran, the.
Speaker 2: Quality of the intelligence.
Speaker 3: Once again, Israel has shown up the rest of the
Speaker 3: world when it comes to these sort of sophisticated operations
Speaker 3: hasn't it.
Speaker 20: Well, Look since nineteen sixty seven and the Six Day War,
Speaker 20: there has never been a better example of David versus
Speaker 20: Goliath in the Middle East. His tiny little Israel taking
Speaker 20: on a regime that controls the country eighty times its size.
Speaker 20: And the way that Israel does that is by using ingenuity, creativity,
Speaker 20: the element of surprise. This is not the war that
Speaker 20: the Iranian regime was planning to fight. The Iranian regime
Speaker 20: surrounded Israel with a ring of fire, a network of
Speaker 20: proxy armies, hoping that it could rain ballistic missiles on
Speaker 20: Israel to protect its illegal nuclear weapons program. And now
Speaker 20: the Iranian regime is completely exposed because Israel caught them
Speaker 20: by surprise. And here we are with Israeli planes controlling
Speaker 20: the skies of Tehran.
Speaker 3: We've had some Iranian activists on the program. They are
Speaker 3: hoping that this will lead to regime change. I mean
Speaker 3: when Adnya, who was interviewed by Brett Bay yesterday, he
Speaker 3: said that is not the explicit goal, but it could
Speaker 3: be the outcome of their operations.
Speaker 2: It's up to Iranians whether they rise up. Do you
Speaker 2: think this is likely to play out.
Speaker 3: That Iranian civilians could seize this opportunity and take that
Speaker 3: control of their country.
Speaker 20: Look, the Iranian regime's unofficial slogan is death to Israel.
Speaker 20: Israel's unofficial slogan is the people of Israel live Between that,
Speaker 20: there's very little room for compromise. The reason we have
Speaker 20: a conflict with Iran is the Iranian regime doesn't want
Speaker 20: Israel to.
Speaker 18: Exist, and Israel wants to exist.
Speaker 20: And Israelis are nostalgic for the days that there were
Speaker 20: flights between Tel Aviv and Tehran and they weren't drones.
Speaker 20: So obviously, if the Iranian regime goes and they establish
Speaker 20: a democracy in dead, that's the source of the Middle
Speaker 20: East conflict gone, and we can have peace between Israel
Speaker 20: and Iran. Now you're right, the Prime Minister is saying
Speaker 20: regime change is not the explicit goal of this war.
Speaker 20: This is about eliminating the existential threat of an Iranian
Speaker 20: nuclear bomb and Iranian ballistic missiles.
Speaker 18: But stranger things have happened.
Speaker 20: No one predicted the fall of the Soviet Union, no
Speaker 20: one predicted the fall of the Assad regime. And if
Speaker 20: the Iranian regime falls, if the leaders choose to flee
Speaker 20: because they understand their time is up and Iran can
Speaker 20: form a peace loving democracy. That would be an outstanding
Speaker 20: side effect of this operation.
Speaker 18: The same the world from Iranian nuclear bombs.
Speaker 2: We've got less than a minute left in Ilin.
Speaker 3: I just want to ask you about the hypocrisy of
Speaker 3: Iran targeting Israeli civilians and we haven't heard a word
Speaker 3: of condemnation from the international community.
Speaker 20: You know, the G seven just issued a very important
Speaker 20: statement saying it stands with Israel and Israel's security, so
Speaker 20: we know world leaders are with us. But I have
Speaker 20: to say a word to all the activists have spend
Speaker 20: the last year talking about humanitarian law and proportionality and distinction,
Speaker 20: don't care when Israeli civilians are under fire and have
Speaker 20: to run to bomb shelters and dozens of Israelis are
Speaker 20: killed in ballistic missiles. And it's clear that all their
Speaker 20: language of international law and human rights was just to
Speaker 20: dress up their hatred of Israel and Jews.
Speaker 18: They don't really get to humanity. Their anti humanity.
Speaker 2: So true and so disappointing.
Speaker 3: ELIN really love having you in the show as always,
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for your time, and that's all
Speaker 3: we've got time for today. I see you tomorrow at
Speaker 3: eight o'clock, and right now, the man of the hour,
Speaker 3: we'll marry