1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Well, the state government has a few things going on 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: on various fronts, and we have some breaking news for you. 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: Frank Pangelo, Independent Upper House MP. Last week, Frank, good 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: morning to you. We were talking about good morning, Milady 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: tomato growers out in the Northern Suburbs and there's been 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: a development there. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 2: Well, there has been, Matthew, and it's heartbreaking, and I 8 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: think we spoke about it about the company. I visited 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 2: them only last week and they were quite concerned that 10 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 2: they were going to be shut down and it was 11 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 2: going to cost up to twelve hundred jobs. And that 12 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 2: news is about to be broken to workers in about 13 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: half an hour at Perfection Pressure, two wells By. They're 14 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: equally heartbroken. Chief executive Michael Simonetta, who he tried to 15 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: reason with the Prime Industries department about trying to manage 16 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: the outbreak there. But I believe I was told a 17 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: couple of days ago that Farmer Industries wanted to shut 18 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 2: the entire complex down and that will result in the 19 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: loss of at least six hundred jobs and up to 20 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: twelve hundred in peak season. And no one knows how 21 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 2: long that plant is going to be shut down, but 22 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 2: they are the biggest tomato growers in the southern hemisphere 23 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 2: and it's going to have an impact on the market, 24 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 2: but it's also going to have a terrible impact on 25 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: those families and also mister Simonetta as well, because he 26 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 2: comes from a proud family that built that business up 27 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 2: not just here but also in New South Wales and 28 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 2: he was telling me last week that it could cost 29 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 2: them up to nine million dollars. So it's terrible news. 30 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: What's the future there? I mean, how long do we 31 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: know how long it'll be closed for or not? 32 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: At this stage, Well that's the question that person needs 33 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: to answer and the minister needs to answer because you know, 34 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: apparently this virus can linger around for ten years. You know, 35 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 2: it needs to be eradicated. This is what Berza want 36 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 2: to do is eradicated and they've just centered their activities 37 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 2: on this particular grower, although there's a couple of others 38 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 2: that are also probably going to suffer the same fate 39 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 2: and who knows how long it will be and I 40 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 2: think the primer industry's minister at the moment is probably 41 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 2: unsure where it's going to go. 42 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 3: Now. 43 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 2: They want to go on this eradication path and you know, 44 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 2: I think mister Simonetta and Perfection Fresh see to think 45 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 2: that it can be managed like it is everywhere else 46 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 2: in the world where there's been an outbreak. I think 47 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,119 Speaker 2: the thing is that once this thing breaks out, it's 48 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 2: going to be very difficul looks contained, But the issue here, 49 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: of course, is the impact it's going to have on 50 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 2: that business and all those workers, and what PERUSA is 51 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 2: going to do about it. Now. I understand that there 52 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 2: are still some growers out there. They've been waiting up 53 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: to a month to get results of tests done on 54 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: their plants, so they don't know where their future is. 55 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: So that whole industry up there is hanging on a precipice, 56 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 2: waiting to get some results and waiting to know what 57 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 2: PERSA is going to do. We've had a situation, of 58 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 2: course where Tonight is in South Australia's been locked out 59 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: of New South Wales, Queensland, Western Australia. It could have 60 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 2: that flow on effect and affect other produce like Chili's 61 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: egg plants and capsicum. But of course, you know when 62 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: you have a closure of a big business like that, 63 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 2: like Perfection Flesh, there's also the domino effect that has 64 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: on suppliers and others. So you know, it has enormous impact, 65 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 2: and you know you'd want to add some confidence. But 66 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 2: the government is going to be handling this and handling 67 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: it effectively. But so far, all I are intent on 68 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 2: doing is stopping it from spreading. And there are no 69 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 2: other fans. We don't know there's any compensation that's going 70 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: to be paid. A lot of questions that need to 71 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 2: be asked of the minister. I'll be asking if you 72 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 2: in parliament today, all right. 73 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: And she'll be on the show a little bit later 74 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: on this morning. So that is terrible news. And as 75 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: you say, the workers there are going to find out well, 76 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: very very shortly in the next few minutes exactly that 77 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: that is just absolutely shocking. 78 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 2: And well, that's a lot of jobs, Matthew, that's a 79 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 2: lot of jobs. Maybe six hundred. 80 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: Jobs, six hundred and potentially twelve hundred. When is peak 81 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 1: time by the way, for tomatoes. 82 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 2: Well preak top, well in season, it will be during 83 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 2: the for summer period, but it's a seasonal thing. 84 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, unreal. The other big issue the government would 85 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: be having some pretty serious discussions behind closed doors about 86 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: at the moment is the future of the Whale steel 87 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: Works and the Premier was on five double a breakfast 88 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: this morning he was asked about it. This is a 89 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: little bit of what he had to say. 90 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 3: Well, the state govermanent is rather advanced in developing our 91 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 3: contingency plans, which you'd expect us to be doing behind 92 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 3: the scenes. We hope that they never have to be executed. 93 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 3: I mean, I think everybody wants to to succeed and 94 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 3: realize it's plan for the wireless sight in the long term. 95 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 3: I would be reckless for me and the government to 96 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 3: not be planning for all possibilities. And yes, we have spoken. 97 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 3: I have spoken personally to the Prime Minister about this matter. 98 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 3: I did it in person a couple of weeks ago 99 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 3: in fact. So and we're also engaging in a ministerial 100 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 3: level and also a senior level of the highest levels 101 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 3: of the public service at a federal and state sports 102 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 3: or TEDELI state efforts. So we're treating it pretty seriously. 103 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 3: But there's not as say, we're not without optimism. GG 104 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 3: has been relatively transparent with the state government in terms 105 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 3: of their situation, and you know they've they've got very 106 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 3: clear plans about how they want to get things back 107 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 3: up and running, you know, at full children and not 108 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 3: too distant future, and naturally we wish them every success 109 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 3: in doing so. But you know, our responsibility first and 110 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 3: foremost isn't a GG it's to the people of Wylah. 111 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: So, Frank, there's a whole heap of questions in that 112 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: and the future looks bleak. You'd have to say, the 113 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: state government talking about contingency plans. That takes us back 114 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: to what twenty fifteen in the days of Arian oh exactly. 115 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 2: And you know when the government has to seek out 116 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 2: insolvency services to advise them about what's going on up there, 117 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,559 Speaker 2: I think they've got their hand hovering over the panic button, 118 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 2: how don't they? And look, it should have happened a 119 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 2: long time ago. The premier says, oh, you know, we 120 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 2: started talking to people two weeks ago. Maybe this has 121 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 2: been going on for several years and it's hit a 122 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 2: crisis point now where the government has suddenly worried about it. Furthermore, 123 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 2: it was reuined in Parliament yesterday that GfG haven't been 124 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 2: paying the government mining royalties. Now I think Minister Coops's 125 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 2: toner says, oh, well, look, we're not too worried so 126 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 2: much about that, you know, those royalties. At this point, 127 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 2: we're more worried about how the still works are going 128 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 2: to progress and get out of the situation they're in. 129 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: Why wouldn't the government worry about mining royalties because it 130 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 2: will be a big hit to the state budget if 131 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 2: they can't recoup mining royalties. Now on estimates, mister Goodler, 132 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 2: I think he sees his mate. You know, he's paid 133 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 2: more than two hundred and thirty million dollars in mining 134 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 2: royalties to the government. So if you do some quick 135 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 2: mats shows that he may have pulled about seven billion 136 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 2: dollars worth of war out of that place. Now, when 137 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 2: iron ore was at its peak price a couple of 138 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 2: years ago, ships were leaving. Whyala going overseas with perhaps 139 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 2: eighteen million dollars in profit for GFD Where did that 140 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 2: money go? Where has that money been spent? Because it 141 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 2: hasn't come back into the steel works and looks then you. 142 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: Say the other the other thing that would be causing 143 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 1: problems is the or concern. It's the future of green hydrogen, 144 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: the whole hydrogen plan for Whyala? 145 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: Well, absolutely, I think this is why the Premier is 146 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 2: suddenly worried because it's one of his big election promises. 147 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 2: You know, suddenly the premier has got a number of 148 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 2: fires burning around him, and you know it's this is 149 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 2: probably the first real crisis that his government is facing, 150 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: or crises, because you've got Yala, you've got the unimerge, 151 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 2: the lack of affordable housing, the cost of living, crisis ramping. 152 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 2: We've just mentioned about six hundred jobs being lost at 153 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 2: Perfection Fresh. You know, suddenly there's bad news on the 154 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 2: horizon for the labor government and they need to address 155 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 2: those and put those buyers out. And how they're going 156 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 2: to do that, you know what, with a lot of spin. 157 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 2: You know, let's just see where they go from it. 158 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: You know, they spent most of yesterday in the Legislative 159 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 2: Council on a conversion therapy bill, which you know, quite 160 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 2: frankly wasn't and shouldn't have been a priority, but it 161 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 2: was yesterday and you know, the bill got passed at 162 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 2: ten thirty last night. And effectively, what it will mean 163 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 2: is that once it's passed, it's going to alarm many 164 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:56,359 Speaker 2: people because there are going to be members of families 165 00:09:56,400 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 2: that could risk criminal charges simply by trying to have 166 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 2: meaningful discussions with young people about their sexual orientation. You know, 167 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 2: this one just went straight through in two weeks. But anyway, 168 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 2: that was their priority yesterday when we've got more pressing 169 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: issues around the state. 170 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: All right, so the conversion, let's look into that just briefly. 171 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: So this this would surprise a lot of people who 172 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: asked for this. Do we have issues with conversion? 173 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 2: Totally an unnecessary bill, but it's just sort of the 174 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 2: left of the Labor Party. You've been pushing this and 175 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 2: there was an election commitment and it just suddenly turned 176 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 2: up two weeks ago in the House of Assembly. They 177 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 2: standing orders were suspended and it went through pretty quickly 178 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 2: without anyone having a really good look or a debate 179 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 2: about it. Came into the Upper House yesterday, they spent 180 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 2: all day on it. Worn't going to leave until it 181 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 2: was done. And essentially what it will do is, you know, 182 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 2: didn'talize you know, people that have discussions or you know, 183 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 2: try and convert people from sexual orientation or affirming their agenda. 184 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 2: It has serious implications. Even though you know, in the past, 185 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 2: there were practices, you know, during the fifties of sixties 186 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 2: and seventies where there were these crazy practices about trying 187 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 2: to change people's sexual area. Well that stopped years ago, 188 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 2: right and that didn't happen. But now this is clearly 189 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 2: a bill that's been designed to pour a lot of 190 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 2: cold water on the transgender debate and that's effectively what 191 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 2: it will do. But this is the unintended concert or 192 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: the consequences of this is that you could actually have 193 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 2: situations where grandparents, uncles, aunties, siblings, brothers and sisters could 194 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 2: face up the five years jail if they try and 195 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 2: talk one of their their relatives or a sibling time 196 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 2: to affirm. I mean, you know, I think the public 197 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 2: is out of Australia would be outraged really at the 198 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 2: extent of it of what this bill has proposed. 199 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: Talking of legislation, you've got your own going before Parliament 200 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: today on cigarette laws. 201 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 2: Well it is, but it seems to have been lost 202 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 2: in the wash with everything else that's going on. And 203 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 2: this is fact you're going to a vote today, is 204 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 2: that people born after two thousand and seven will not 205 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 2: be able to legally buy tobacco it once they turn 206 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 2: of age of eighteen, and that is essentially to try 207 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 2: and win a generation off smoking. So that goes before 208 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 2: the Legislative Council today. I'm not sure how it's going 209 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 2: to go, whether it's going to get support. I hope 210 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 2: that labor support it because Premier Peter Malanauskis made a 211 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 2: big point about the dangers of the social media on 212 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 2: young people and trying to control that, and he said 213 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 2: that social media was as dangerous as to young people 214 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 2: as tobaccos making. So I hope they follow through with that. 215 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: All right, Hey, just to go back to Wayala and 216 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: the revelations yesterday that royalty so the government hasn't been 217 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: paid mining royalties by GfG. There's a lot going on 218 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: here to unpack, but just to remind people, the blast 219 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: furnace went out, didn't it last week? 220 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 2: We don't know to help, we don't know for how long. 221 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 2: We don't know for how long. There have been problems 222 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 2: with it all year, so not much steel has been 223 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,719 Speaker 2: coming out of that plant, and we know how important 224 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 2: structural steel is and to get it out there now, 225 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 2: I believe that they will also be importing billets of 226 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 2: steel from China and then converting him into structural steel. 227 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 2: So you're going to have Chinese steel suddenly. We were 228 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 2: a made in Australia stamp on it. 229 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: That's not right, no, all right, and so in the meantime, 230 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 1: contractors not paid, the government now not paid, and the future, 231 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: the future just up in the air, just unreal. 232 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 2: Well, you know, the government keeps saying, you know, people 233 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 2: should not panic that the future for Whyala is assured. Okay, 234 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 2: of course we all like to hear that news. That 235 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 2: people have heard this news before, and they continue to 236 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 2: hear at Matthew, right, and they are worried reminding me. 237 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: Alan's reminding me, Frank on the text line. The last 238 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: interview with Tom Kutsantna's the energy minister, on this, he 239 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: said he was comfortable. Well, I wonder how comfortable he 240 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: is today. 241 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 2: Well, what about telling the people of Whyala how comfortable 242 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 2: they are, because they're not. You know, it's all right 243 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 2: for the minister to reassure them. But he says, well, 244 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 2: just wait to they revamp the plant, they get the 245 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 2: electric act is going, they get into full production of 246 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 2: steel again, Well, the electric arctor this isn't arriving until 247 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven, and by the time that gets under 248 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 2: a it's twenty twenty eight. Well, here we are now 249 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four, that's four years away, and people 250 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 2: are wondering, have I got a future in while I 251 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 2: should I stay here? The kids are staying there, you 252 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 2: know with the kids, Well should we stay here? We'll 253 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 2: go elsewhere. And this is all the uncertainty that has 254 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 2: come about because of gfg's management of that place, or 255 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 2: should we say, mismanagement of that place. And it's been 256 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 2: going on for years, Matthew. You know, I've been talking 257 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 2: about this but nearly six years about people not getting paid. 258 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,239 Speaker 2: Now the government isn't even getting paid. 259 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: Indeed, Frank, appreciate your time this morning. 260 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 3: Thank you. 261 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: Quite a few nuts out there, thank you, Frank Pangelo, 262 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: Upper House Independent MP. And just shocking news that he's 263 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: broken regarding six hundred jobs to go at Perfection Fresh 264 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: which has been closed down as a result of the 265 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: tomato virus that has been found their work is being 266 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: told the news at the moment, and that is just 267 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: absolutely terrible.