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Speaker 1: This is the Fits In with Kate Richie podcast.

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Speaker 2: I can't simply known as the body.

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Speaker 1: Hey I'm El mcer Well, where are you from Australia?

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Speaker 2: I just moved here a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: Ago from the I didn't know that either.

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Speaker 3: When he's welcome El mccross at the Magnificent El McPherson.

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Speaker 4: What an intro we got her.

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Speaker 2: I know we read it straight from the sheet. L.

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Speaker 4: I wrote that three weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: Copywriter No I was.

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Speaker 2: Going to say, L wrote a B. Lovely to be

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Speaker 2: is chatting with you.

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Speaker 1: It's great to be here.

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Speaker 3: We need to apologize first of all, L from an

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Speaker 3: incident years ago in the Quantus Lounge in LA where

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Speaker 3: we intruded on your privacy. We were next door to

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Speaker 3: you in an office.

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Speaker 1: I remember that.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, and I wasn't there. Can we exclude me from

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Speaker 2: the apology and the embarrassment.

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Speaker 3: We didn't know that the walls were so thin, El,

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Speaker 3: and it took us around about twenty minutes Whip to

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Speaker 3: get the courage up to go over to CFL. Wanted

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Speaker 3: to pop in and have a drink with us. You

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Speaker 3: finally did you heard that you could? We said, come

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Speaker 3: in and have a drink, what would you like and

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Speaker 3: you said, well, I've been sober for twenty odd years.

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Speaker 4: I think what was great about it too, was when

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Speaker 4: the Quantus staff I think, tried to help you out

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Speaker 4: and say, Elle, would you like us to walk you

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Speaker 4: to the flight, And then we all jumped in and

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Speaker 4: said yeah, we we'll all go there.

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Speaker 1: So said I was happy to have company.

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Speaker 4: Well we piggy back to your streamline to the aeroplane,

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Speaker 4: so thank you for that.

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Speaker 3: This week PayPal are having their first ever online salevent

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Speaker 3: in Australia. It's the PayPal Fashion Fashion Frenzy. You get

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Speaker 3: moments like these, Ell, you come home, you pop in

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Speaker 3: and you come back to Australia. It must be I mean,

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Speaker 3: has it? Do you think one day that you will

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Speaker 3: settle here? You know what? Actually Nick Cave spoke about

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Speaker 3: this recently and said, you know what, as he gets older,

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Speaker 3: he just really yearns being around his family and friends

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Speaker 3: a little bit more. And I know this is quite morbid,

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Speaker 3: but he said, I will die in Australia. I want

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Speaker 3: to die in Australia because it means so much to me.

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Speaker 3: It's where I'm from.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I echo the sentiments there for sure. I mean

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Speaker 1: every time I come home, I just my heart expands

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Speaker 1: and you know, I remember why I love, you know,

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Speaker 1: my Australian heritage, the landscape, the light, the people, the

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Speaker 1: attitude of people here. I just I feel so comfortable

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Speaker 1: and I've felt so welcomed. It's been you know, it's

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Speaker 1: been incredible to be home.

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Speaker 4: But you know what, Ell, it was a funny thing

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Speaker 4: because you know it's it would mean a lot. As

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Speaker 4: you say, your heart expands when you hear but you

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Speaker 4: were always representing all of us when you were doing

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Speaker 4: your thing overseas. It was like el macpherson, Yeah, she's

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Speaker 4: one of us, and look how well she's doing. So

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Speaker 4: that was I think a moment of national pride. All

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Speaker 4: the success you've had.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's that's that the tis in my eye.

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Speaker 2: No, I think it's true to you the way you're

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Speaker 2: talking about Australia. I think the feeling that you might be,

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Speaker 2: that you might have when you come home is even

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm looking here at the Wish magazine which

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Speaker 2: was in the Australian. Sixty Ellen McPherson and the Australian

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Speaker 2: see you there's just something it's warming, warm and sentimental

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Speaker 2: and oh I kind of remember that time. It's like

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Speaker 2: there's just something lovely in Australian about the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: I hope you know that. You know the way you

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Speaker 2: talk about Australia, I think is the way we talk

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Speaker 2: about you.

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Speaker 1: That is just so good to hear, you know, it

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Speaker 1: really does. And it's a moment to just sort of

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Speaker 1: sit and take a beat and reflect on that for myself.

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Speaker 1: And I'll take that with me as I walk the show.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what can we talk about this? We

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Speaker 3: just found out as a member on our team. Jesse here,

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Speaker 3: her partner, tones her family. Is it true that you

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Speaker 3: used to work in a pharmacy in Linnfield? Did you

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Speaker 3: work in a chemist back in the dayale.

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Speaker 1: I certainly did that. The Steamboam was the name of

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Speaker 1: I can't believe that he actually gave me a job.

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Speaker 1: I was young, you know. That was sort of like

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Speaker 1: my beginning of wanting to be financially independent, which probably

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Speaker 4: Ways completely because wasn't the story Jess jump on the

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Speaker 4: microphone tones. Your wife, she said that what was the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so, hil her dad is a photographer and he

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Speaker 5: said that he was chatting to you at the pharmacy

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Speaker 5: one time, just as a customer, and that he asked

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Speaker 5: you what you were doing and you said you were

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Speaker 5: thinking of going off and doing modeling full time. And

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Speaker 5: it's not a very stable industry.

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Speaker 2: Not many models have long careers.

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Speaker 5: To just make sure you go to UNI as well.

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Speaker 1: And do you know what that stayed with me? And

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Speaker 1: I remember when I had the opportunity to go to America.

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Speaker 1: At the time, I was considering studying law, and you know,

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Speaker 1: did I want a safe, reliable, secure job in law.

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Speaker 1: It seemed like the logical choice. And you know, I

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Speaker 1: had advice like your friend's dad who said that to me,

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Speaker 1: after saying no. It felt like I'd gone against myself

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Speaker 1: and I remember my mom saying, you know, do you

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Speaker 1: want to marry the banker around the corner? And you know,

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Speaker 4: You got that.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's what I did.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, did mom and dad go with you early on?

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Speaker 3: Ill just to sort of look over you at that stage.

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Speaker 1: Because they didn't. They didn't. In fact, it's one of

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Speaker 1: my dad's you know, my dad still says and my

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Speaker 1: mom says, how did I let you go? I said, Mom,

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Speaker 1: we just did. You know, don't get Australian. We did

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Speaker 1: a gap year and that was a big thing in Australia.

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Speaker 1: People would just go off and go backpacking around the

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Speaker 2: This week, we've seen you back on the Catwalk thanks

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Speaker 2: to PayPal, walking the catwalk, doing photo shoots, all of

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Speaker 2: the other wonderful things you've done as well. Which part

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Speaker 2: of your career do you do you enjoy my most

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Speaker 2: on a daily basis, Where you walk up and go,

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Speaker 2: oh my goodness, I'm so glad I'm doing that thing today.

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Speaker 1: Every day, you know, every day I'm I'm in the now,

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Speaker 1: and I fall in love with the now whatever I'm doing.

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Speaker 1: You know, once I've made a decision to do something,

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Speaker 1: you know that's aligned with my heart, then I commit

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Speaker 1: one thousand percent and you know, I'm excited to be

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Speaker 1: walking for PayPal. It's a huge celebration in so many ways.

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Speaker 1: It's you know, celebrating Australian fashion. It's celebrating you PayPal's

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Speaker 1: commitment to powering young businesses and helping scale young businesses.

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Speaker 1: There's a chance to give back because of the money

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Speaker 1: that paypaler is committing to UNISAFF. It's a chance for

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Speaker 1: me to connect to you know, color models, but also

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Speaker 4: So shure it's awesome.

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Speaker 3: With the Australian modeling industry. Have you over the years

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Speaker 3: el mentoreds some of these girls coming through or made

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Speaker 3: Miranda Kerr when they were young, and you could see

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Speaker 1: Yes. I mean well, first of all, I did it

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Speaker 1: but also, you know, there's been I have wonderful relationships

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Speaker 1: Heidi who you know, when she was first starting out,

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm excited about too, Eli, if I

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Speaker 4: can touch on a personal note to your boyfriend is

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Speaker 4: a gun musician. He's a phenomenal guitarist and an amazing songwriter.

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Speaker 4: The guy is a weapon. I would love to know

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Speaker 4: and Doyle have sat down. Is there a song that

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Speaker 1: And also, you know, it's a completely different business that

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Speaker 1: I'm not. You know, it's expands my understanding through watching

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just wanted to say, I've noticed during this

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Speaker 2: chat you've mentioned your heart a couple of times and

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Speaker 2: like being led by it. It hasn't always been like that, though,

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Speaker 2: a long journey to being led by that. I was

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Speaker 2: reading in this article as well. It was incredibly interesting

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Speaker 2: the journey that you've been on, and it sounds as

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Speaker 2: though you're in a really great place, but it's not

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Speaker 2: easy to get there sometimes.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think we're all on the journey from our

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Speaker 1: head to our hearts and that is life, you know,

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Speaker 1: because we always think that our logical minds our brains

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Speaker 1: just good at asking questions. The heart answers them. You know,

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Speaker 1: I do use my heart as a compass.

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Speaker 3: We could talk to you for ages, and we know

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Speaker 3: now that if we do see you at a corners lande,

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Speaker 3: we're not going. Let's tell.

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Speaker 2: No, I will be like boys, leave that woman alone.

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Speaker 1: Nah. I love the company. I just love how friendly

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