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Speaker 1: on the front. I'm Kristin Amiot. It's Wednesday, July tenth.
Speaker 1: State sponsored Chinese hackers waged a year's long campaign against
Speaker 1: Australian networks, but it doesn't stop there. The Australian Signals
Speaker 1: Directorate also said the group targeted government systems all over
Speaker 1: the South Pacific under the direction of China's Ministry of
Speaker 1: State Security. It comes just weeks after Premier Lee Chung
Speaker 1: claimed Australia China relations are back on track, but it's
Speaker 1: not clear if the cyber espionage came up in his
Speaker 1: conversations with Prime Minister Anthony Albanesi. Richard Miles is sending
Speaker 1: three D printers to Ukraine as part of a fresh
Speaker 1: military package. That new pledge will happen at the NATO
Speaker 1: summit this week, and it's expected to include three D
Speaker 1: printing technology, which can quickly produce parts for vehicles and weapons.
Speaker 1: The Defense Minister will also meet with Ukrainian President Volodimi
Speaker 1: Zelenski and other world leaders. On the sidelines of the
Speaker 1: summit in Washington, DC, A storm is brewing in the
Speaker 1: United States Democratic Party. The Australian's Washington correspondent Adam Crichton
Speaker 1: writes that senior party members are resisting attempts by President
Speaker 1: Joe Biden to pull them into line as speculation swirls
Speaker 1: about his health and cognitive state. The tussle follows an
Speaker 1: extraordinary call for Biden to seriously consider his future by
Speaker 1: the Democrats longest serving senator and third in line for
Speaker 1: the presidency. Those stories alive right now at The Australian
Speaker 1: dot com dot au. She's the self described ex Cohn
Speaker 1: caught up in an extraordinary diplomatic tit for tat. In
Speaker 1: today's episode the Broadcast, journalist Chung Lii, detained by China
Speaker 1: for more than three years, reflects on what it means
Speaker 1: to be free in an essay written as part of
Speaker 1: The Australian's sixtieth anniversary celebrations.
Speaker 2: When you're locked up, you become obsessed with freedom. I
Speaker 2: thought about freedom for one thousand, one hundred and eighty
Speaker 2: four days.
Speaker 1: That's journalist Chung Lii. She's reading an excerpt from an
Speaker 1: essay She's written about freedom for The Australian.
Speaker 2: Because freedom is like health, Losing it is more acutely
Speaker 2: felt than having it.
Speaker 1: Changli was born in China but came to live in
Speaker 1: Australia at the age of ten with her family. Lee
Speaker 1: finished her education in Queensland and then worked for a
Speaker 1: time as an accountant and then a business analy but
Speaker 1: Lee says she always wanted to be a journalist. In
Speaker 1: the early two thousands, she moved to China, where she
Speaker 1: pursued a media career. Lee thrived on television and by
Speaker 1: twenty twenty she was a well known face on the
Speaker 1: English language Chinese state owned broadcaster CGTN, as well as
Speaker 1: covering finance news. She even had a cooking show. But
Speaker 1: then in August of twenty twenty, Lee suddenly disappeared from
Speaker 1: television screens. Her friends and family completely lost contact with her.
Speaker 1: Little did they know at the time, Lee had been
Speaker 1: arrested on murky espionage charges and put intottention it would
Speaker 1: be six months before she would see the sky again.
Speaker 3: And they say that they gave me fifteen minutes of
Speaker 3: fresh air, but all it meant was there's a window
Speaker 3: up the top that the guard would open for fifteen minutes,
Speaker 3: but the curtains are still drawn while the windows are open,
Speaker 3: and I certainly.
Speaker 2: Didn't feel that it was fresh air.
Speaker 3: And you never saw anything except the blue curtains and
Speaker 3: the modeled carpet and the beij padded walls.
Speaker 1: So what was Chugli's crime? According to the Chinese government,
Speaker 1: Lee had broken a new z embargo by a few minutes.
Speaker 1: For this, she would be imprisoned for three years, away
Speaker 1: from her two children and her partner. Chuglei's arrest came
Speaker 1: right as Australia's relationship with China went seriously south. Scott
Speaker 1: Morrison was Prime Minister at the time when the COVID
Speaker 1: nineteen pandemic was raging, and suggested more than once that
Speaker 1: China had some explaining to do about the origins of
Speaker 1: the virus. Things have slowly improved since Labour One government
Speaker 1: in May of twenty twenty two, and Miss Chung was
Speaker 1: finally freed in October last year, following an intense diplomatic
Speaker 1: campaign by Foreign Minister Penny Wong and others. She stepped
Speaker 1: off the plane, Lee was greeted at the airport by
Speaker 1: the people she'd missed the most.
Speaker 3: It's my kids running at me and my mom, who
Speaker 3: has aged in the past three years, and we just
Speaker 3: all screamed and.
Speaker 2: More mom like wept and I just held onto it.
Speaker 1: That diplomatic work is ongoing. The pressure is still on
Speaker 1: China to release detained writer Yang Han Juan, who's been
Speaker 1: detained on questionable espionage charges since twenty nineteen. He was
Speaker 1: sentenced to death for spying in February, but didn't pursue
Speaker 1: an appeal due to his declining health and a lack
Speaker 1: of faith in the Chinese justice system to give him
Speaker 1: a fair go.
Speaker 2: Back.
Speaker 1: In Australia, Chungli's relationship with freedom is complex. On the
Speaker 1: one hand, she writes, she appreciates and values it more
Speaker 1: than ever, but on the other she's painfully aware of
Speaker 1: how it's squad.
Speaker 2: If we don't speak up in defense of personal freedom
Speaker 2: within Australia and outside it borders, one day will be
Speaker 2: so comfortable in our virtual cells we won't even feel it.
Speaker 2: We'll forget what freedom feels like. There will be no
Speaker 2: self as you are for now. She's taking it one
Speaker 2: day at a time.
Speaker 3: Sometimes I feel like an invalid, like a newborn and
Speaker 3: very fragile and other times I feel like I could fly,
Speaker 3: and I want to embrace everything, and I enjoy everything
Speaker 3: so intensely and savor it.
Speaker 1: Coming up why it's not all business as usual for
Speaker 1: chung Lei. Subscribers to The Australian get first access to
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Speaker 1: we'll be back after this break.
Speaker 2: Even before August thirteenth, twenty twenty, the day I was
Speaker 2: locked up, like many others who work and live in China,
Speaker 2: or even those who deal with China, I had already
Speaker 2: surrendered many freedoms. We gave up the freedom to criticize
Speaker 2: the government or its leaders. We gave up the freedom
Speaker 2: to protest, because we all held vested interests, our jobs,
Speaker 2: our assets, our trade.
Speaker 1: When Chungli returned to Australia in late twenty twenty three,
Speaker 1: she returned to work as a broadcast journalist. She's a
Speaker 1: colleague of ours at Sky News Australia. In her essay
Speaker 1: for The Australian published today, she marvels at the relative
Speaker 1: freedom of the media on her home soil.
Speaker 2: We accepted that the locals had even less freedom, that
Speaker 2: human rights lawyers were locked up and their families intimidated
Speaker 2: by the secret police. That there was heavy media censorship
Speaker 2: about what to report, what not to report, and how
Speaker 2: to report. That in Chinese art and literature, the noose
Speaker 2: of state control got tighter every year.
Speaker 1: Last month, that contrast was thrown into sharp relief. Miss Chug,
Speaker 1: a self described ex Cohn, attended a press event at
Speaker 1: Parliament House in Canberra where Prime Minister Anthony Alberniesi and
Speaker 1: Chinese Premier Li Chang signed memoranda of understanding about a
Speaker 1: handful of issues, including education and trade. There are five
Speaker 1: documents to be signed today.
Speaker 2: The document will be signed.
Speaker 1: Why, Mister Leo susche the premier's visit was a significant
Speaker 1: step in the thawing of Australia's bilateral relations with China.
Speaker 1: From where Chungli was sitting, it was a very different story.
Speaker 1: Officials from the Chinese delegation crowded around Miss Chung in
Speaker 1: full view of the TV cameras dotted around the room.
Speaker 1: They couldn't be moved through the polite insistence of officials
Speaker 1: from the Prime Minister's office in standing Reille last room.
Speaker 1: There's that unshakable Chinese compliance. Likewise, she points to the
Speaker 1: Defending Australia Summit held in Canberra in May, where an
Speaker 1: interpreter who'd been booked to translate comments by a former
Speaker 1: Chinese spy pulled the pin at the last minute.
Speaker 3: Got two points I want to make at the top.
Speaker 3: One is an ex con an X spy, two diplomats
Speaker 3: on a stage talking freely without fear. That's what we're defending.
Speaker 3: Another point, we engaged an interpreter for Eric and she
Speaker 3: resigned on the spot. So she was afraid that he
Speaker 3: would say something against China that she would have to
Speaker 3: pass through her lips and that would hurt her. And
Speaker 3: this is on Australian soil. That's how deep the fear is.
Speaker 3: That's what we're defending against.
Speaker 1: Chug Le says, these situations are China's priorities wit large,
Speaker 1: domestic optics first, international criticism second, And she asks, are
Speaker 1: those who leave, whether through complex diplomatic negotiations or their
Speaker 1: own free, will, ever truly free. You can read chug
Speaker 1: Le's full essay on freedom right now at the Australian
Speaker 1: dot com dot au