WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 30 April

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<v Speaker 1>From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray Live. Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome in to the man k. We've got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of work to do in the next couple of days.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see how Australia is going to vote. The early

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<v Speaker 1>vote's been big, but it is not as big as

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<v Speaker 1>some people, including myself, thought it was going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a big part of the election story. We

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<v Speaker 1>get into it in a moment's time. Thank you to

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<v Speaker 1>everyone who watched, participated, to the thousands of people who

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<v Speaker 1>send us emails and it literally was thousands of people.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you to my executive producer, the wonderful Lucy Boyd,

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<v Speaker 1>and our team for putting together what I thought was

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<v Speaker 1>a great hour of Telly. Nice to see the alternative

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<v Speaker 1>Prime Minister, Pete Dutton sitting here taking questions, but also

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<v Speaker 1>in an environment where he could explain himself and you

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<v Speaker 1>can like it, you can dislike it, vote for it

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<v Speaker 1>and not vote for it. Free country. But it's nice

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<v Speaker 1>not to see the interjections, the yelling, the carrying on.

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<v Speaker 1>He had a chance to explain himself and talk quite

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<v Speaker 1>decently about some pretty serious issues, including experiences that he

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<v Speaker 1>had as a police officer when it came to trying

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<v Speaker 1>to save people from family violence and lighter moments like

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<v Speaker 1>telling stories about his mum and dad, popping over to

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<v Speaker 1>New South Wales to play the Poke's on family holidays.

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<v Speaker 1>Tonight I will keep my comments a little briefer that

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<v Speaker 1>I normally do because I want to get to bromin Bishop.

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<v Speaker 1>I want Brom and Bishop to have a big, hard

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<v Speaker 1>run at things tonight. Linda Scott is here as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I look forward to that fight night on this Wednesday night.

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<v Speaker 1>Tomorrow night is when we will do our final State

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<v Speaker 1>of the Race. That will be with Redbridge, with Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Kroger and with Stephen Conroy. So yes, the footy will

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<v Speaker 1>be on, but I'm not going to hide. Make sure

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<v Speaker 1>you are here tomorrow night or Series Lincoln Recorder, do

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<v Speaker 1>all the things you have to be because tomorrow night

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<v Speaker 1>data da da da da da da data, no one

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<v Speaker 1>will be surprised. But tonight you don't have to go

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<v Speaker 1>too far to find awesome people like the wonderful Meghan Kelly,

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<v Speaker 1>the only place you see here on Aussie TV right.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, Gail King, who went on that vanity project called

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<v Speaker 2>the Blue Origin Flight that you're not allowed to criticize

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<v Speaker 2>her unless you've been Have you been? Have you Let's

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<v Speaker 2>just say I've been.

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<v Speaker 1>All right now before I get into the data. And

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<v Speaker 1>there's lots of it today, including some fascinating stuff about

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<v Speaker 1>what I've been talking about for years now, which is

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<v Speaker 1>preferences and how they can swing elections. But while people

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<v Speaker 1>are voting early and again vote tomorrow. If you know

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<v Speaker 1>which way you're going to go and vote, go and

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<v Speaker 1>vote tomorrow. It's all counted on the same day and

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to wait a few days for your

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<v Speaker 1>vote to be counted. Okay, we know that there is

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<v Speaker 1>this tectonic battle for the future of our country for

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<v Speaker 1>the next three years between the bloke who's been running

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<v Speaker 1>it for the past three or the bloger wants to

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<v Speaker 1>run it for the next three. But we all know

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<v Speaker 1>that there is one thing that the media loves almost

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<v Speaker 1>more than the horse race. It's the data behind the horse.

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<v Speaker 3>Race, poles, holes, holes, holes.

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<v Speaker 1>And tonight I can reveal to you what another organization

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<v Speaker 1>has been reporting. So I'm not revealing, I'm just pumping

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<v Speaker 1>it up here, you know, the Turnbull Times, the Guardian. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, the only reason exists in Australia is because

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<v Speaker 1>the former Prime minister will he helped to get it

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<v Speaker 1>up off the ground. Here he refers to itness, you

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<v Speaker 1>know the sensible centive. We all know it's the wild left. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he may be regretting the decision because the one thing

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<v Speaker 1>Australians can agree on is how bad Malcolm Turnbull was

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<v Speaker 1>as a prime minister. In fact, they did a poll

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<v Speaker 1>in amongst all of their other election polling and it

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<v Speaker 1>had a look at all of the former prime ministers

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<v Speaker 1>and guests who came stone motherless last, the miserable Ghost himself.

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<v Speaker 1>He is dead last in a list of our best

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<v Speaker 1>former prime ministers. The order goes as you can see,

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<v Speaker 1>John Howard first, Bob Hawk second, Kevin Rudd third, Julia

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<v Speaker 1>Gillard fourth, Anthony Alberaneze fifth, Tony Abbott sixth, followed by Morrison, Keating, Whitlam,

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<v Speaker 1>Fraser and dead last. How good that the one thing

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<v Speaker 1>we can all agree on, regardless of which way we

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be voting left, right or center at

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<v Speaker 1>this election, is Malcolm Turnbull was the worst Prime minister

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<v Speaker 1>of recent years. The miserable Ghost. Of course, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>stop the turbul times constantly turning to him for interviews

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<v Speaker 1>or him angry tweeting, or him even having the balls

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<v Speaker 1>to refer to how boring this election is. Remember it

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<v Speaker 1>was his decision to have an eight week election campaign,

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<v Speaker 1>one where he took a ninety seat majority and barely

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<v Speaker 1>held onto majority government. The bloke who was so sooky.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember he wouldn't even leave the pink house on election night.

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<v Speaker 1>But also another thing that we learned via these poles,

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<v Speaker 1>and again not a right wing think tank. They're published

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<v Speaker 1>in the Guardian, is that Green's voters are miserable. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not making that up. I'm just going off the evidence.

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<v Speaker 1>They went by affiliation are they asked about how happy

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<v Speaker 1>are you with your life? Overall? Coalition voters happiest of all,

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<v Speaker 1>followed by Labor and then the Greens who are miserable

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<v Speaker 1>about their life compared to the other major parties. That's

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<v Speaker 1>their life overall, in their family life. Look at this,

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<v Speaker 1>Look how happy a Liberal or National Party voter is.

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<v Speaker 1>Compare that to the Labor Party. All those miserable Greens,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know how they're the young cool kids. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>guess who has the worst social life. The Greens the

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<v Speaker 1>best social life, the best life over all, the best

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<v Speaker 1>personal life, and their best family life. This is in

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<v Speaker 1>the Guardian Coalition voters. And of course we know that

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<v Speaker 1>the Greens voters are so miserable because the planet's about

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<v Speaker 1>to explode at any one moment, and they have to

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<v Speaker 1>pretend that they like Adam Bant DJing. Yeah, he's so cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care how many of its social media influences

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<v Speaker 1>he has. Who would want to listen to that? Three

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<v Speaker 1>days to go. Australia is at a fork in the road.

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<v Speaker 1>We are presented with one eah in every three years,

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<v Speaker 1>and there are just three days to go. According to

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<v Speaker 1>the AEC, there have been four point six million people

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<v Speaker 1>who have already voted. Now this is really interesting because

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people thought that half of all people

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<v Speaker 1>would end up voting early. That's what the trends seem

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<v Speaker 1>to suggest. But of course eighteen million people are on

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<v Speaker 1>the electoral roll basically five million today. Let's imagine it's

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<v Speaker 1>another million tomorrow. That takes us to six and then

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<v Speaker 1>it gets us to maybe seven million people before election day. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>of course that means that eleven million people will choose

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<v Speaker 1>to vote on Saturday. That means what is happening in

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<v Speaker 1>the final days matters. The final ads they start to

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<v Speaker 1>turn off after midnight, but the social media ramp up

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<v Speaker 1>and there'll be other ways. But still the final days matter,

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<v Speaker 1>just like they did in twenty nineteen, just as they

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<v Speaker 1>did in elections passed. But the final days matter very

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<v Speaker 1>much so here in twenty and twenty five of the

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<v Speaker 1>different places around the country, it's actually surprisingly mostly safe

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<v Speaker 1>seats that seem to be voting early. Why because many

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<v Speaker 1>people in those safe seats you would imagine, are just

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<v Speaker 1>happy to lock in who they've voted for for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time. Interesting that the number one location right now

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of these are in Queensland, and you see

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<v Speaker 1>habit wise, there were some seats in the queens And

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<v Speaker 1>election where it was up to seventy percent of people

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<v Speaker 1>who voted early, So Queensland likes to get it done early.

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<v Speaker 1>In Bowmen, which is the Liberal Nationals, then the Green seat,

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<v Speaker 1>which is highly contestable here, with both the Coalition and

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<v Speaker 1>Labour thinking they might be able to pull it back

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<v Speaker 1>from the Greens. Dawson pretty safe seat for the Liberal

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<v Speaker 1>Nowational Party, the same for Fadden. Where are we now again?

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<v Speaker 1>When things were better in the polls, this was considered

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<v Speaker 1>to be a tight seat. The Labor Party think that

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<v Speaker 1>the Poles are going to pull it back into their column,

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<v Speaker 1>But the preferences of one nation might be putting this

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<v Speaker 1>one back on the line. Flinders in Victoria, Dawson in Queensland,

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<v Speaker 1>Macon in South Australia, Capricornia in Queensland and the Labor

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<v Speaker 1>held seat of Gorton in Victoria are the places where

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<v Speaker 1>people are voting now. I have long talked about how

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that there are many Australians who are frustrated

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<v Speaker 1>with the two parties of government. They'll be frustrated with

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<v Speaker 1>the Labour Party for obvious reasons, They'll be frustrated with

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<v Speaker 1>the Liberal Party for a whole bunch of reasons, which

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<v Speaker 1>means your preferences matter, and for your vote to be

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<v Speaker 1>a serious vote, for your vote to count, for your

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<v Speaker 1>vote to actually reaffirm or change the government, I believe

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<v Speaker 1>that you need to pick a government with the vote

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<v Speaker 1>that you put at number two. Now we know that

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<v Speaker 1>traditionally most people who vote for the Greens will end

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<v Speaker 1>up putting the Labor Party at number two in many

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<v Speaker 1>ways because they're how to vote forms will tell them

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<v Speaker 1>to do so. And in twenty twenty two, people who

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<v Speaker 1>voted for one nation, the Palmer Party, Libertarian and lots

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<v Speaker 1>of others. They did not give that number two to

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<v Speaker 1>the Liberal Party the way they did in twenty nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>The way they did in twenty nineteen was part of

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<v Speaker 1>the story behind the surprise election victory of Scott Morrison,

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<v Speaker 1>the one that we all saw coming, that we knew

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<v Speaker 1>was happening. But is this about to be something potentially

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<v Speaker 1>that will make things a little more competitive than they

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<v Speaker 1>may well seem? Now? Virtually every national poll right now

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<v Speaker 1>is sitting somewhere at fifty two forty eight or fifty

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<v Speaker 1>three forty seven in favor of labor. But the X

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<v Speaker 1>factor does seem to be one nation. I'm pleased to

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<v Speaker 1>other people are starting to notice. But we have been

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<v Speaker 1>on this well for years. But we've certainly been consistent

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<v Speaker 1>about this for months because the polls have told us

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<v Speaker 1>that one nation supported the last federal election was five percent,

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<v Speaker 1>but in the poll released by The Guardian it's almost

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<v Speaker 1>double news Pole. The gold Standard again shows that is

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<v Speaker 1>outside of margin of error in terms of its growth.

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<v Speaker 1>Even Resolve and the Wild Pole of Morgan all show

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<v Speaker 1>a significant increase in the primary vote of one nation.

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<v Speaker 1>Now of course, that is a national figure, but in

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<v Speaker 1>some states that number will be way higher. In some

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<v Speaker 1>seats that will be way lower. So it's difficult to

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<v Speaker 1>turn around and say what the ultimate impact of one

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<v Speaker 1>nation is going to be. But in outer suburban seats,

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<v Speaker 1>the ones that have delivered massive drops in the primary

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<v Speaker 1>vote of the Labor Party at state elections, even in

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<v Speaker 1>the by elections in places like Victoria, we know that

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<v Speaker 1>one nation has a significant following there. One nation in

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<v Speaker 1>the past three years has been able to get people

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<v Speaker 1>elected to the West Australian, South Australian, New South Wales

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<v Speaker 1>and Victorian parliaments. They are knocking on the door of

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<v Speaker 1>a Senate spot in many of those states. In places

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<v Speaker 1>with lower populations, if their vote is higher than obviously

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<v Speaker 1>ten percent of a smaller group of people starts to

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<v Speaker 1>have a bigger impact, Which is why one nation is

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<v Speaker 1>a massive chance of knocking off Jackie Lamby in Tasmania,

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<v Speaker 1>where candidates like the one running in the seat of

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<v Speaker 1>Hunter may well be outperforming the major parties. So if

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<v Speaker 1>it becomes a two horse race, there could be some

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<v Speaker 1>wild results that might come in. Now I was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to research this today to say, well is this a

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<v Speaker 1>phenomenon that happens at every election, that one nation always

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<v Speaker 1>polls better than it does. And the truth is, I

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<v Speaker 1>can show you pole where the polls were maybe one

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<v Speaker 1>or two points better than the national result, but I've

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<v Speaker 1>never seen polling that was almost double their previous election

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<v Speaker 1>result that didn't result in a higher actual vote for

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<v Speaker 1>one nation. Again, look at those poles. Everyone will sit

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<v Speaker 1>there and be surprised on Saturday night the polls if

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<v Speaker 1>they're wrong, Okay, we learn a lesson. But if history

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<v Speaker 1>gives us a guide to the future, something's happening right

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<v Speaker 1>now with one Nation. Now, it's easy to turn around

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<v Speaker 1>and say that for quote unquote right wing voters, they

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<v Speaker 1>might be annoyed on a whole bunch of issues with

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<v Speaker 1>the Liberal Party, so that's what that vote is. But

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<v Speaker 1>for a bunch of people, it may well be people

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<v Speaker 1>from the Labor Party who go you know what, I

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<v Speaker 1>mightn't walk all the way to the Libs, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to go via one Nation. So what happens with

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<v Speaker 1>your preference matters. In fact, our mate Tom Connell, who

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<v Speaker 1>is the best in the business at reading the numbers, he,

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<v Speaker 1>among others, has been looking into this at sky in years,

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<v Speaker 1>and they see that there has been a change in

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<v Speaker 1>some of those how to vote forms for one nation

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<v Speaker 1>where the Libs might have been at three, four, five

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<v Speaker 1>or six, but bring them up to number two. So

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what we've been talking about is what happens, which

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<v Speaker 1>is you vote for one nation. You vote for one

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<v Speaker 1>nation as number one in the lower House, number one

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<v Speaker 1>in the Senate. The number one vote in the Senate

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<v Speaker 1>will get a senator elected. The likelihood of a one

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<v Speaker 1>nation person winning your local seat probably unlikely. But what

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<v Speaker 1>you do with number two will be the difference about

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<v Speaker 1>whether we need three more years of the current mob

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<v Speaker 1>or there's a chance of a change. And again, if

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<v Speaker 1>the trends are the trends, that Labour looks like it's

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<v Speaker 1>about to be re elected. It looks like on some

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<v Speaker 1>poles it may have even improved on this primary vote

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<v Speaker 1>from the last election, meaning they could be in a

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<v Speaker 1>scenario where we're not talking about a minority government, we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about a majority government, and maybe even a majority

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<v Speaker 1>government with slightly more seats. But those fifty two to

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<v Speaker 1>forty eight numbers are based off the science of the

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<v Speaker 1>way preferences worked of the last elect not the way

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<v Speaker 1>that they will work in this election. So if the

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<v Speaker 1>preferences from one nation, Family First, Libertarian and trumpets actually

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<v Speaker 1>end up with a one for those party but a

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<v Speaker 1>two for the Liberal Party, then fifty two forty eight

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<v Speaker 1>quickly becomes fifty one forty nine. Fifty one forty nine

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<v Speaker 1>quickly becomes fifty to fifty. And there are dozens of

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<v Speaker 1>contestable seats right now that are polling anywhere between fifty

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<v Speaker 1>one forty nine. There's about a dozen or so right

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<v Speaker 1>now that are bang on fifty fifty. Now again, the

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<v Speaker 1>margin of era could well mean that currently fifty to

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<v Speaker 1>fifty is really fifty two forty eight in favor of

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<v Speaker 1>the Labor Party. Well, none of that's a surprise, because

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<v Speaker 1>we know where the trends are. But this is the

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<v Speaker 1>difference between the science of polling and the reality of

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<v Speaker 1>an election. The reality of an election where we thought

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<v Speaker 1>many more people will have voted by now, and millions have,

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<v Speaker 1>but basically we haven't hit halfway yet, meaning the final

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<v Speaker 1>days will matter. And interestingly, in the Financial Review, Philip Kurry,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy who you know I often celebrate is the

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<v Speaker 1>exception of the rule of the way that the press

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<v Speaker 1>gallery thinks he had some research from one of the

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<v Speaker 1>companies that does the polling for the Financial Review, and

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<v Speaker 1>he wrote this story preferences from one nation another right

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<v Speaker 1>of center minority parties are surging towards the Coalition at

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<v Speaker 1>a higher rate than the last election. So maybe twenty

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen is happening again. It's called preference discipline, fuelling expectations

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<v Speaker 1>of Peter Dutton could snatch some of these outer suburban

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<v Speaker 1>labor heartland seats because of cost of living. The issue

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<v Speaker 1>that everyone has had is number one for the past

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<v Speaker 1>three years, the one that we have not trusted the

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<v Speaker 1>government on for all of the time they've been in place.

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<v Speaker 1>I see polling by JWS research backs the internal findings

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<v Speaker 1>of both major parties that certain demographic, sorry that a

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<v Speaker 1>certain demographic of seats outer suburban mortgage belt electorates with

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<v Speaker 1>blue collar workforces, substantial community commute times, and high cost

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<v Speaker 1>of living sensitivities, in some cases high crime rates are

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<v Speaker 1>behaving differently to the rest of the electorate in such seats.

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<v Speaker 1>One Nation plus other minor parties on the rights such

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<v Speaker 1>as Family First and the Partner Parties collectively ten percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the vote. Those swinging to such parties include disaffected

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<v Speaker 1>labor voters who, rather than directing their preferences to the

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<v Speaker 1>Liberal Party, are going via these other parties. Consequently, eighty

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<v Speaker 1>to ninety percent of right of center preferences are flowing

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<v Speaker 1>to the coalition, whereas the national average of the last

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<v Speaker 1>election was just two thirds. This is really interesting. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I have to talk about the science behind some of

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<v Speaker 1>that evidence, which a lot of people today have turned

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<v Speaker 1>around and have called bunkum, which is it's basically they've

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<v Speaker 1>asked people, as they're voted early, what did you do

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<v Speaker 1>with your preferences? The total number that they are asking

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<v Speaker 1>is lower than the number that are asked for a

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<v Speaker 1>national poll. So is this the Orange mirage? Who knows,

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<v Speaker 1>but we know the difference between twenty nineteen and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two wasn't just the overall vote for the Liberal Party,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was what people did on the seter right

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<v Speaker 1>of Australian politics, what people did with number two, and

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that the people who are to the center

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<v Speaker 1>right are now coalescing. Specifically around one nation, pay attention

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<v Speaker 1>to what its leader is saying about what you need

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<v Speaker 1>to do with number two when it comes down to

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<v Speaker 1>your moment to choose the government we have or the

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<v Speaker 1>government we could have. I think Pauline's pretty clear.

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<v Speaker 4>They've lied and lied and lied. And that's exactly what

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<v Speaker 4>this prime minister has done. He's lied about immigration, cost living,

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<v Speaker 4>everything he's lied the people about. I don't trust him,

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<v Speaker 4>and I hope the people wake up themselves and don't

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<v Speaker 4>give him another term of government.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. I've got to be careful here, but I also

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<v Speaker 1>want to give you a little bit of an inside

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<v Speaker 1>tip that no major party wants me to give you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to lose some friends for what I'm about

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you. If you are part of that majority

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<v Speaker 1>of voters now who are thinking about turning up on

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<v Speaker 1>election day, and maybe you don't like how aggressive the

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<v Speaker 1>how to vote stuff is, when everyone's shoving something under

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<v Speaker 1>your nose or someone sneering at you, or and you

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<v Speaker 1>feel maybe a little bit nervous about walking up to

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<v Speaker 1>any political party and taking their how to vote for

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<v Speaker 1>them because you think that it's telling everyone else how

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<v Speaker 1>you can to vote. And if the color of the

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<v Speaker 1>piece of paper that you're holding is the one that

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<v Speaker 1>everyone else doesn't like, then it might be uncomfortable for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Or maybe you want to vote for a minor party

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<v Speaker 1>or a local candidate who doesn't have the same volunteers

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<v Speaker 1>as the major parties, let alone the union forces of

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<v Speaker 1>the Labor Party or the activists of the Greens, you

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<v Speaker 1>can download your how to vote form and you can

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<v Speaker 1>do it tonight. In the case of one Nation, you

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<v Speaker 1>can go to vote dot one Nation, dot org, dot AU.

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<v Speaker 1>You can put in your electorate, you can put in

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<v Speaker 1>your address and there it is. They'll tell you who

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<v Speaker 1>the local candidate is and how to follow their how

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<v Speaker 1>to votes if you want to. Now you can do

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<v Speaker 1>the same when you google how to vote Labor, how

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<v Speaker 1>to Vote Liberal, how to Vote Greens. All of the

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<v Speaker 1>parties offer this service, so it means if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to run the gauntlet and to show your hand

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<v Speaker 1>about which way you're going to vote, you can arm

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<v Speaker 1>yourself for that information tonight. You can print it, or

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<v Speaker 1>depending on the party, you can save it to your phone,

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<v Speaker 1>and in the same way that you use your phone

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<v Speaker 1>to board an air aplane or you download the tickets

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<v Speaker 1>to go to a show, you can do exactly the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing when it comes to voting. The sound you

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<v Speaker 1>can hear some people yelling at the TV because they

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<v Speaker 1>know the last minute pressure does move some people around

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<v Speaker 1>the last minute jitters about do I want to take

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<v Speaker 1>that how to vote? Do I want to show that

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<v Speaker 1>person you don't have to? It doesn't matter if you

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<v Speaker 1>vote tomorrow or on Friday or on Saturday tonight. Go

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<v Speaker 1>and search how to vote and insert the person that

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<v Speaker 1>you want to vote for. But the bit that is

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<v Speaker 1>outside of my public information is that whatever you do

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<v Speaker 1>with number two, make sure that you pick the one

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<v Speaker 1>you want to win the election. When it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>the Senate, it is much easier for you to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to vote just one through six above the line.

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<v Speaker 1>Or if you're a superherd like me, you love putting

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<v Speaker 1>a particular candidate four hundred and thirty first, and you

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<v Speaker 1>play that game and your misses this going. Do we

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<v Speaker 1>really have? Yes? All right? It's one of the joys

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoy of voting, as well as as many sausages

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<v Speaker 1>as possible. For obvious reasons, how to vote, insert who

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<v Speaker 1>you want to vote for, download it to your phone,

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<v Speaker 1>print it off, fold it over. No one sees the color,

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<v Speaker 1>So thank you, thank you, thank you, and vote. As

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<v Speaker 1>for the Prime Minister trying to effect that vote, in

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<v Speaker 1>the last few days. He was playing a home game

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<v Speaker 1>today at the National Press Club. This was his best

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<v Speaker 1>attack line. And when I mean that, I just mean

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<v Speaker 1>his latest lie on Dunton.

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<v Speaker 5>Their plans are fundamentally wrong for Australia. Look at their

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<v Speaker 5>proposal to ban working from home. Last month, Peter Dutton

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<v Speaker 5>said that women who couldn't be in the office five

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<v Speaker 5>days a week should just chob share his words, not mine,

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<v Speaker 5>a statement that is so out of touch with the

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<v Speaker 5>lives of modern families and the flexibility that working from

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<v Speaker 5>home gives parents in.

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<v Speaker 1>Particular, garbage, lies, rubbish Andrew Bolton his comments particularly tonight

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<v Speaker 1>was excellent, as was Chris Kenny and Peter Creslin and

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<v Speaker 1>Shery Marks and see no favorites love everyone about being

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<v Speaker 1>able to go through and just point out life, a life,

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<v Speaker 1>a life, a life, a lie, good stuff as people

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<v Speaker 1>are calling all of that out. Remember it's not just

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<v Speaker 1>for information for you watching, but find the videos ats

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<v Speaker 1>gone news dot com, dot are, you share them on

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<v Speaker 1>your social media, send them to the people who need

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<v Speaker 1>to see that information. Okay, you still have an opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to not just vote tomorrow, but to commence somebody about

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<v Speaker 1>why you think that they should be better informed about

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<v Speaker 1>which way they are going to go on Saturday, that

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<v Speaker 1>it's Sky News dot Com that a you or of

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<v Speaker 1>course on our YouTube channel. As for Peter Dutton, well

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<v Speaker 1>today he was out and about as well. He was

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<v Speaker 1>particularly I think focused in Victoria. This was his best

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<v Speaker 1>hit after being with us last night with Ask Me

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<v Speaker 1>Anything Again. Thanks to everyone who helped us out with that.

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<v Speaker 6>It's an amazing revelation but refreshing to know that President

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<v Speaker 6>Trump has a phone. So we're told by the Prime

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<v Speaker 6>Ministry may not have a phone. I don't know why

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<v Speaker 6>the Prime ministery can't just be honest. I'm me just

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<v Speaker 6>say that I don't have his number.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. One thing that I have got pretty good insight

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<v Speaker 1>into because it has been my career, it's been my passion.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been what I dreamt of as a kid is

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<v Speaker 1>about the media, right, and I'm very lucky that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sitting here fifteen years into the three hundred years that

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be with you on this program fingers grossed health

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<v Speaker 1>wise at least, which is how the media works. I've

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<v Speaker 1>worked as the most junior of reporters and now I

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<v Speaker 1>sit here and have for the past fifteen years talking

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<v Speaker 1>about matters big, small, and all and indifferent. And I've

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<v Speaker 1>never seen the bias in terms of the reporters questions

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<v Speaker 1>and the way that they address the one they like

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<v Speaker 1>and the one they don't like. Because as if this

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't inform their reporting, which informs how people are informed

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<v Speaker 1>about the election. Let's compare the questions for the Prime

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<v Speaker 1>minister today.

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<v Speaker 7>Do you believe that, given these new uncertain elements in

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<v Speaker 7>the global outlook, we need to tweak our defense posture

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<v Speaker 7>towards one that's more focused on the defense of Australia

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<v Speaker 7>aside from what we're doing with Orcus.

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<v Speaker 8>If the polls are right next year, you'll be have

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<v Speaker 8>been apartment for thirty years. That thirty year stretch will

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<v Speaker 8>almost perfectly bookend Australia's golden era when we had huge

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<v Speaker 8>amounts of prosperity. What tough decisions are you prepared to

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<v Speaker 8>take in the next term of government if you win,

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<v Speaker 8>to ensure that the golden era doesn't end with you.

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<v Speaker 9>Joe Exotic from the hit series Tiger King is on

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<v Speaker 9>a more serious note, is serving a prison sentence for

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<v Speaker 9>murder and has been convicted of animal abuse. He's also

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<v Speaker 9>just endorsed you on Instagram. How do you feel about that?

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<v Speaker 1>Compare that to the treatment they are giving Peter Dunton.

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<v Speaker 1>They are giving him fourteen barrels not just to compare the.

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<v Speaker 10>Pair, mister dun and CPI figures are out today.

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<v Speaker 1>If inflation falls, is that a vindication of Labour's economic success?

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<v Speaker 4>Ethne Albaneasi assult news dot com dot you that photos see.

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<v Speaker 8>You as aligned with Donald Trump and that is not

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<v Speaker 8>something that they want in this country.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your response to that? I asked you yesterday?

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<v Speaker 9>Where they're keeping a candidate who will blame someone's mother

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<v Speaker 9>for their daughter experiencing domestic violence squares with your plan.

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<v Speaker 7>To tackle the issue.

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<v Speaker 9>I just wanted to check with you again today while

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<v Speaker 9>we're out of charity, if you still think an apology

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<v Speaker 9>is enough for someone to stay on as a candidate.

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<v Speaker 2>Costumes tomorrow reveal increased spending on additional consultants.

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<v Speaker 4>To make up for the forty one thousand public servants

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<v Speaker 4>that you climb to suck in cameras.

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<v Speaker 11>Another this is a sect who Lifted, which treats women

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<v Speaker 11>as second class. At are the citizens that doesn't tolerate

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<v Speaker 11>homosexuality at all? Surely you don't think those are shad

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<v Speaker 11>values with.

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<v Speaker 4>The glory of the good. How can you say that

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<v Speaker 4>you know the specific cost of your nuclear plan when

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<v Speaker 4>you haven't finalized the models that you'll useable.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait till tomorrow night, when we get to look back

0:26:19.000 --> 0:26:21.119
<v Speaker 1>at all of the campaign, and we'll do all the

0:26:21.200 --> 0:26:24.959
<v Speaker 1>softies versus all of the toughies. We thought more than

0:26:24.960 --> 0:26:29.600
<v Speaker 1>half of people had voted, They haven't, they won't. Meaning

0:26:29.600 --> 0:26:34.320
<v Speaker 1>the final days matter, Meaning every conversation matters, Meaning every

0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:39.760
<v Speaker 1>piece of information matters. What you do with your preferences matters,

0:26:40.119 --> 0:26:42.560
<v Speaker 1>How you inform yourself as a voter matters, how you

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<v Speaker 1>arm yourself to be able to go to the polls matters.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm so glad that you've spent this campaign as

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<v Speaker 1>well as many others and many others to come with us,

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<v Speaker 1>and that deeply matters a lot to me. Quick break

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<v Speaker 1>back with more here on Pulmote Life. All right, Everyone

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<v Speaker 1>in the man cave, everyone's seated, Everyone ready for a

0:27:04.160 --> 0:27:08.919
<v Speaker 1>fun one. They're even dressed appropriately. Proud in red is

0:27:09.000 --> 0:27:12.359
<v Speaker 1>Linda Scott? Proud in blue is Bromwin? Bishop? Love you

0:27:12.440 --> 0:27:15.800
<v Speaker 1>to see you both? Can we agree at the start though,

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<v Speaker 1>did we all agree with the poll in the Guardian

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<v Speaker 1>that Malcolm Turnbull is the worst recent prime minister. He

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<v Speaker 1>came dead last, dead last. What a nice way to start.

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<v Speaker 1>And also that even in the Guardian polling people least

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<v Speaker 1>happy about their personal life, their family life or their

0:27:32.240 --> 0:27:35.560
<v Speaker 1>social life Green's voters, Green's voters.

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<v Speaker 10>They should have thrown lows trust in there. That would

0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:37.959
<v Speaker 10>have made it.

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<v Speaker 1>What did we just get to pick other leaders from

0:27:41.160 --> 0:27:43.040
<v Speaker 1>around the world? All right, guys, so I want to

0:27:43.040 --> 0:27:45.240
<v Speaker 1>get to lots of different things, and I get how

0:27:45.320 --> 0:27:47.760
<v Speaker 1>high passions are right now, but let's just deal with

0:27:47.920 --> 0:27:52.480
<v Speaker 1>obvious questions. Okay, why would you all guys win? Linda

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<v Speaker 1>well good?

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<v Speaker 10>I think this is about teams in winning, It's about

0:27:56.280 --> 0:27:59.000
<v Speaker 10>what Australians deserve. And I think Australians have been really

0:27:59.040 --> 0:28:02.520
<v Speaker 10>clear they want deserve cost of living support and relief,

0:28:02.840 --> 0:28:07.280
<v Speaker 10>and labors put forward a really positive plan free TAFE,

0:28:08.000 --> 0:28:11.879
<v Speaker 10>support for Medicare, tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts, a

0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:15.480
<v Speaker 10>whole comprehensive plan wage rises in so many different areas

0:28:15.760 --> 0:28:18.080
<v Speaker 10>to give Australians the cost of leef for living that

0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:21.440
<v Speaker 10>they deserve. I don't know who will win. I don't

0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:25.560
<v Speaker 10>take anything for granted, but I do think Australians deserve

0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:29.600
<v Speaker 10>a consistent, steady hand, and that is with the reelection

0:28:29.800 --> 0:28:31.840
<v Speaker 10>of Anthony Aubanez's Prime Minister.

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<v Speaker 1>Robin, why is your mob going to win or get

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<v Speaker 1>close enough?

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<v Speaker 3>Because there's a fundamental message that says cost of living

0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:44.760
<v Speaker 3>is the problem. Let's look at what is driving that

0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:48.120
<v Speaker 3>cost of living, and fuel and energy are at the

0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:52.560
<v Speaker 3>basis of it. So the plan to cut the twenty

0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:58.080
<v Speaker 3>five cents off the petrol cost by harving the tax

0:28:58.240 --> 0:29:03.520
<v Speaker 3>on fuel is a solid policy that delivers help for everybody,

0:29:04.040 --> 0:29:08.760
<v Speaker 3>stay at home, mum's pensioners, kids, learning to drive, everybody

0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:13.080
<v Speaker 3>it assists and it is noticed. I think and realize

0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 3>that that does address the cost of bringing the apple

0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 3>to the warehouse, to the supermarket, to your purchase in

0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:27.160
<v Speaker 3>your basket. The second reason is because I think people

0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:29.920
<v Speaker 3>will finally wake up to the fact that the Labor

0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:34.600
<v Speaker 3>Party's policy is pitch is based on lies, one after

0:29:34.640 --> 0:29:34.960
<v Speaker 3>the other.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched that.

0:29:37.520 --> 0:29:41.320
<v Speaker 3>Address to the National First Club and I couldn't believe it.

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:45.040
<v Speaker 3>He'd been called out on so many issues that were

0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:48.239
<v Speaker 3>lives and yet there they were being repeated, just like

0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:51.240
<v Speaker 3>Lennon said, repeat it lie often enough somebody will believe

0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 3>it's the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, but then you saw some of the questions being

0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:55.120
<v Speaker 1>asked to Peter Dunnet, which are a repetition of the

0:29:55.160 --> 0:29:58.120
<v Speaker 1>lies you're planning to cut for Sack forty two. These

0:29:58.120 --> 0:30:00.560
<v Speaker 1>are the so called middle of the road people. Thankfully

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:02.160
<v Speaker 1>some of the heavy hitters have started to push back

0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:04.960
<v Speaker 1>in world under, particularly to Andrew Clenel on that today.

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<v Speaker 1>But can I just quickly about inflation, okay, because obviously

0:30:07.760 --> 0:30:09.480
<v Speaker 1>cost of living there's two ways to view it, all right,

0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:14.040
<v Speaker 1>You exclusively through the indices that come out of the

0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:17.520
<v Speaker 1>statistics that the Bureau Statistics that informs what the Reserve

0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:20.600
<v Speaker 1>Bank is going to do. Okay, And yes, inflation back

0:30:20.680 --> 0:30:24.400
<v Speaker 1>down between two and three okay, But there is always

0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:27.240
<v Speaker 1>a butt and it is the lived reality versus the

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<v Speaker 1>Hey have a look at the number over here, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So today Jim Chalmers came out and obviously celebrated the

0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:34.760
<v Speaker 1>idea that we are now back into that two to

0:30:35.040 --> 0:30:37.720
<v Speaker 1>three percent. I've got arguments about how and why, but

0:30:37.800 --> 0:30:40.400
<v Speaker 1>still this is him saying, yeah, a couple of days

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<v Speaker 1>before an election.

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<v Speaker 12>This is proof of the responsible economic management which has

0:30:47.480 --> 0:30:51.640
<v Speaker 12>been A defining feature of this alban easy labor government

0:30:52.240 --> 0:30:53.680
<v Speaker 12>only problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there's an awful lot of stuff that's nowhere near

0:30:56.280 --> 0:30:58.720
<v Speaker 1>two to three percent. In fact, if you compared this

0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:01.840
<v Speaker 1>march to last March, guess what's been going up by

0:31:01.880 --> 0:31:04.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot more than the headline numbers. In fact, you

0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:06.000
<v Speaker 1>can have a look. This again is not so far

0:31:06.120 --> 0:31:07.880
<v Speaker 1>right wing think tank. This is the stuff that comes

0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:10.520
<v Speaker 1>out of the Bureau Statistics. Tobacco, Okay, I'm not a

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:13.480
<v Speaker 1>smoker who cares fruit and veg. It's not two percent

0:31:13.600 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 1>or four percent, it's almost eight. Booze, gas and other

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:21.760
<v Speaker 1>household fuels. Education, what about people trying to pay off

0:31:21.760 --> 0:31:28.280
<v Speaker 1>a rent again, booze, non alcoholic beverages, your health, holidays, insurance,

0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:32.400
<v Speaker 1>meat and seafood, other food products, recreation and culture. All

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:36.280
<v Speaker 1>of that stuff is above the numbers that they are

0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:41.360
<v Speaker 1>celebrating today. And as was explained by a finance guy

0:31:41.400 --> 0:31:45.400
<v Speaker 1>in the UK, it doesn't matter what this number is

0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 1>this month. It is from when things were normal to

0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:52.360
<v Speaker 1>what they are today. So Jim Chalmers can turn around

0:31:52.360 --> 0:31:54.360
<v Speaker 1>and say, gold staff for me, we're back to between

0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:57.440
<v Speaker 1>two and three percent. But let's compare where we started

0:31:57.560 --> 0:31:58.640
<v Speaker 1>with where we are.

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<v Speaker 13>Inflation is really just measuring the difference between that and that.

0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 13>And if you look at those two lines, you're talking

0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:08.440
<v Speaker 13>about a two point three percent change. That's the number

0:32:08.480 --> 0:32:11.080
<v Speaker 13>we're talking about today. But for a lot of people

0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:13.280
<v Speaker 13>it's not about that. It's about the difference between this

0:32:13.880 --> 0:32:16.000
<v Speaker 13>and that. And when you look at the difference between

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:20.480
<v Speaker 13>this and that, that's twenty percent. And I think that's

0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:24.400
<v Speaker 13>the dichotomy here between these inflation numbers where it looks normal,

0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:28.080
<v Speaker 13>and this which is really not normal at aols.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's part of this That's why the government's tried

0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:34.760
<v Speaker 1>to talk about anything but cost of living. All right, Oh,

0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:37.200
<v Speaker 1>we're going to have a multiple month then carrying on

0:32:37.280 --> 0:32:39.520
<v Speaker 1>pretending that Medicare is the center of the election. Right

0:32:39.520 --> 0:32:41.440
<v Speaker 1>they know if it was a cost living election, their

0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:44.040
<v Speaker 1>backside would be handed to them. I don't know what's

0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:46.840
<v Speaker 1>going to happen on Saturday, but how can you tell

0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:48.880
<v Speaker 1>me that the people who've been dissatisfied with the government

0:32:48.920 --> 0:32:50.640
<v Speaker 1>for the past two years will suddenly forget that if

0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:53.480
<v Speaker 1>they're paying off a house, they've had to find an

0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:58.000
<v Speaker 1>extra twenty seven six hundred dollars a year to pay

0:32:58.040 --> 0:33:02.480
<v Speaker 1>the mortgage off compared to before the last election, eighteen

0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:04.840
<v Speaker 1>one hundred dollars a month. The average mortgage repayment now

0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:08.640
<v Speaker 1>four thousand dollars. That's twenty seven thousand, six hundred dollars.

0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:11.520
<v Speaker 1>What about your power bill? Now we know that that

0:33:11.640 --> 0:33:13.280
<v Speaker 1>was supposed to go down by two seventy five, but

0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:15.240
<v Speaker 1>it's gone up, and I think it's higher for most

0:33:15.280 --> 0:33:16.880
<v Speaker 1>other people. But when it comes to this three oundred

0:33:16.880 --> 0:33:18.760
<v Speaker 1>and thirty four, what about you're trying to pay off

0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 1>your rent that's gone from four hundred and seventy six

0:33:21.440 --> 0:33:24.320
<v Speaker 1>dollars to six hundred and twenty seven dollars, which means

0:33:24.400 --> 0:33:27.440
<v Speaker 1>annually the amount of money you've had to fined. It's

0:33:27.480 --> 0:33:30.520
<v Speaker 1>not one hundred and fifty one per week times fifty two.

0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:33.800
<v Speaker 1>As for the people who were trying to pay off

0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:36.160
<v Speaker 1>their home insurance, it was eight hundred and thirty dollars

0:33:36.200 --> 0:33:40.600
<v Speaker 1>for average home insurance. It's now two thousand, seven hundred

0:33:40.600 --> 0:33:44.640
<v Speaker 1>and seventy seven dollars. That's nineteen hundred dollars more. Remember

0:33:44.680 --> 0:33:50.880
<v Speaker 1>what they promised last time, yet that's what they delivered. Yet, ladies.

0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:54.320
<v Speaker 1>Today the Red Bridge Organization released information about what is

0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:56.680
<v Speaker 1>the main policies that are going to start moving people

0:33:56.720 --> 0:34:00.000
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to votes. You can interpret these about

0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:02.520
<v Speaker 1>whether you think the labor policy or the liberal policy,

0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:04.680
<v Speaker 1>and you can start to put together why labor might

0:34:04.680 --> 0:34:06.560
<v Speaker 1>be up in the polls or something might be about

0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:11.440
<v Speaker 1>to happen on Saturday. Number one number one promise was

0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:16.160
<v Speaker 1>the Bob billing claims, despite the fact that the Health

0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:18.040
<v Speaker 1>Minister has also turned around and said you'd still need

0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:20.480
<v Speaker 1>your credit cut as well. But whatever the lie kicking in,

0:34:20.920 --> 0:34:26.000
<v Speaker 1>banning price gouging on supermarkets, halving the fuel excise, introducing

0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:29.120
<v Speaker 1>temporary tax cut for twelve hundred dollars in the hands,

0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:32.600
<v Speaker 1>so basically to labor, then it keeps going and going

0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:36.000
<v Speaker 1>and going from there. But on that list, and again

0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:37.480
<v Speaker 1>not what I might point it out, but I just

0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:39.920
<v Speaker 1>wanted to explain why the gold stars they're handing out

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:44.160
<v Speaker 1>of themselve elves may not be rose pedals on Saturday.

0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:45.759
<v Speaker 1>What does it say to you if the number one

0:34:45.760 --> 0:34:49.600
<v Speaker 1>policy is the number one and two are labor, closely

0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:52.160
<v Speaker 1>followed by three and four. But if Labour's winning on

0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:55.520
<v Speaker 1>apparently this poll, is that indicative of what you think

0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:56.320
<v Speaker 1>happens at the election?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think that the lie that has been told

0:35:01.000 --> 0:35:04.799
<v Speaker 3>about Medicare has been told so often I'm not refuted.

0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:09.600
<v Speaker 3>It's been repeated by journalists and repeated and repeated on

0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:14.319
<v Speaker 3>news bulletins on print media. It doesn't matter that it

0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:19.080
<v Speaker 3>has frightened a lot of people. Now, what frightens me

0:35:19.200 --> 0:35:22.560
<v Speaker 3>more is what labor's got in its back pocket that's

0:35:22.600 --> 0:35:27.880
<v Speaker 3>going to come out this tax on capital gains, tax

0:35:27.920 --> 0:35:32.280
<v Speaker 3>on unrealized capital gains. And today the prime ministers said.

0:35:32.120 --> 0:35:34.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm not changing that policy now.

0:35:34.400 --> 0:35:37.080
<v Speaker 3>The people that's really going to impact on the millennials

0:35:37.600 --> 0:35:40.040
<v Speaker 3>because they're going to be paying in their superannuation for

0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:42.480
<v Speaker 3>a long time. Yet now I'll get to three million,

0:35:42.719 --> 0:35:45.359
<v Speaker 3>it's not index and they will be the ones who's hit.

0:35:45.880 --> 0:35:50.440
<v Speaker 3>And it's theft. It's thieving your investment money for your retirement.

0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:55.440
<v Speaker 3>It's four gone wages. It's not labor party money. Eight

0:35:55.480 --> 0:36:00.000
<v Speaker 3>billion dollars goes from that industry into the labor party coffers.

0:36:00.600 --> 0:36:04.040
<v Speaker 3>It's a good source of revenue for them and they

0:36:04.040 --> 0:36:07.040
<v Speaker 3>want more. But they also want it in tax. So

0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:09.719
<v Speaker 3>once that tax is established, is it going to be

0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:13.359
<v Speaker 3>applied to the family home as well? I mean that

0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:18.799
<v Speaker 3>fear question is a legitimate fear, unlike the Medicare fear,

0:36:19.080 --> 0:36:23.680
<v Speaker 3>which is not a legitimate fear. Well, it's been repeated

0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:25.920
<v Speaker 3>so often that it is having an impact.

0:36:26.000 --> 0:36:28.160
<v Speaker 1>Well, and that there's a story in the channel on

0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:31.840
<v Speaker 1>newspapers tonight that Labor is concerned that this conversation about

0:36:32.160 --> 0:36:35.160
<v Speaker 1>your retirement about superannuation may well end up flipping an election.

0:36:35.400 --> 0:36:38.839
<v Speaker 1>This really matters why, because it isn't half of all

0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:39.920
<v Speaker 1>people that have already voted.

0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:43.520
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, look, a lot of people have already voted. But

0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:46.640
<v Speaker 10>people have been clear that they're focused about the things

0:36:46.760 --> 0:36:49.839
<v Speaker 10>in front of them. And I had to, you know,

0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:52.360
<v Speaker 10>take my son to emergency last week. I couldn't be

0:36:52.440 --> 0:36:54.680
<v Speaker 10>here on the show and I'm sorry about that. But

0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:59.480
<v Speaker 10>those things are important. The cost of healthcare, the cost

0:36:59.520 --> 0:37:03.160
<v Speaker 10>of people groceries, these are important. It's why Labours tried

0:37:03.160 --> 0:37:07.759
<v Speaker 10>to put forward really concrete plans to solve the problems

0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:10.960
<v Speaker 10>that people in Australia are talking about today. And medicare

0:37:11.120 --> 0:37:14.120
<v Speaker 10>is one of those. Getting access to healthcare is one

0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:17.719
<v Speaker 10>of those. Getting access to cheaper medicines in pharmacies is

0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:21.439
<v Speaker 10>another problem that Labour has put forward solutions having Peter

0:37:21.600 --> 0:37:27.040
<v Speaker 10>Dutton has having revenue in the nation roman But having.

0:37:26.800 --> 0:37:31.239
<v Speaker 3>Your future income solutions threatened and your future assets which

0:37:31.280 --> 0:37:35.160
<v Speaker 3>you are not realizing, which you're not receiving anything for

0:37:35.400 --> 0:37:38.359
<v Speaker 3>and being taxed at this rate is something that will

0:37:38.440 --> 0:37:43.120
<v Speaker 3>terrify people. It is something that threatens every working day

0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:46.000
<v Speaker 3>that they have put in in their life to put

0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:47.680
<v Speaker 3>money aside for their future.

0:37:47.760 --> 0:37:48.560
<v Speaker 14>And it's going to be.

0:37:48.520 --> 0:37:51.640
<v Speaker 3>Taken now if you establish that principle and it came

0:37:51.680 --> 0:37:57.320
<v Speaker 3>from Joe Biden originally. It is the idea of putting

0:37:57.360 --> 0:38:00.759
<v Speaker 3>that tax on just every day, I said to the people, and.

0:38:00.800 --> 0:38:02.640
<v Speaker 1>People know that that.

0:38:02.840 --> 0:38:06.680
<v Speaker 3>People know that socialist governments tax and spend, and this

0:38:06.920 --> 0:38:09.800
<v Speaker 3>is a socialist government, whichever way you put it.

0:38:09.840 --> 0:38:12.360
<v Speaker 10>From when I totally is going to happen. I'm on

0:38:12.400 --> 0:38:14.080
<v Speaker 10>the board of a superannuation fund.

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<v Speaker 3>So well, are you're a Labor Party person? Well, that's

0:38:18.280 --> 0:38:20.960
<v Speaker 3>not true, and it's an industry fund. Is a board

0:38:21.080 --> 0:38:22.479
<v Speaker 3>with it's an industry fund.

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<v Speaker 10>It is an industry fund, right, and you get a

0:38:24.760 --> 0:38:25.680
<v Speaker 10>lawyer nomination.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's what we've brought.

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<v Speaker 10>Coalition policy also proposing to change the laws about preservation

0:38:33.320 --> 0:38:36.280
<v Speaker 10>to allow people to dip in and have to absolutely

0:38:36.400 --> 0:38:36.799
<v Speaker 10>so they.

0:38:36.680 --> 0:38:37.840
<v Speaker 3>Can buy a home.

0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:40.520
<v Speaker 1>Also choice whether they take it out versus the government

0:38:40.520 --> 0:38:41.719
<v Speaker 1>turning around and saying.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, no, the re aliens are entitled to be able

0:38:44.000 --> 0:38:45.840
<v Speaker 10>to have affordable homes.

0:38:45.560 --> 0:38:49.839
<v Speaker 3>And doors allows them to get the money to buy

0:38:49.880 --> 0:38:52.920
<v Speaker 3>a home. And everybody knows the retirement and when you

0:38:53.040 --> 0:38:55.920
<v Speaker 3>own a home, you have a better retirement than if

0:38:55.960 --> 0:38:56.400
<v Speaker 3>you don't.

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<v Speaker 10>That is true. And the New Zealand Labor governmentiated this

0:39:00.680 --> 0:39:02.400
<v Speaker 10>policy that paid it up in this proposal.

0:39:02.480 --> 0:39:05.160
<v Speaker 3>New Zealand Labor government would never be something I'd want

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<v Speaker 3>to follow.

0:39:05.760 --> 0:39:08.279
<v Speaker 10>Well, they are, and it drove up house prizes and

0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:09.800
<v Speaker 10>made houses less if.

0:39:09.640 --> 0:39:11.520
<v Speaker 3>They don't have the system we have here.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know that anyway, So there are going to

0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:16.719
<v Speaker 1>be people that will turn around and say super scared

0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:20.080
<v Speaker 1>versus many scare, and both of you are going to say,

0:39:20.080 --> 0:39:24.680
<v Speaker 1>here's the evidence for it. Do you think that, I mean,

0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:27.480
<v Speaker 1>you've talked about this for a few minuts, right it

0:39:27.520 --> 0:39:31.440
<v Speaker 1>seems that the parties only decided to start rallying around

0:39:31.440 --> 0:39:34.560
<v Speaker 1>it with two days to go. Do you think that

0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:38.400
<v Speaker 1>that people are aware of the We know certainly on

0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:40.840
<v Speaker 1>these pollings people have their view when it comes to

0:39:41.800 --> 0:39:44.480
<v Speaker 1>the offering of medicare, But are people aware of the superstars.

0:39:44.480 --> 0:39:46.520
<v Speaker 3>They're starting to become aware and as you say, two

0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:50.520
<v Speaker 3>days to go every both matters. So if I had

0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:53.960
<v Speaker 3>my brothers, of course I would have been talking about it.

0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:56.160
<v Speaker 1>You would have had the TV ads rippen in. All right,

0:39:56.600 --> 0:39:59.600
<v Speaker 1>So I'll let you both give a final message in

0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:01.440
<v Speaker 1>a second right on the behalf. But just give me

0:40:01.480 --> 0:40:05.319
<v Speaker 1>the thirty second version of here one nation and one

0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:10.880
<v Speaker 1>nation preferences. Okay, Linda, Again, whether they outperform what they

0:40:10.880 --> 0:40:13.000
<v Speaker 1>did last time or not, that's one of the questions

0:40:13.040 --> 0:40:15.799
<v Speaker 1>we only know by having a national election. Thankfully there's

0:40:15.800 --> 0:40:19.480
<v Speaker 1>one on Saturday. But again the suggestion, phil Kourry, is

0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:21.279
<v Speaker 1>that there's some people in Labor worry that there is

0:40:21.360 --> 0:40:23.680
<v Speaker 1>going to be some changes in some of these outer

0:40:23.760 --> 0:40:26.479
<v Speaker 1>suburban seats that are going to go to One Nation,

0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:29.040
<v Speaker 1>and Pauline's being very clear to say you don't preference

0:40:29.040 --> 0:40:30.520
<v Speaker 1>the Labor Party, your preference the Libs.

0:40:31.000 --> 0:40:33.680
<v Speaker 10>Look, I definitely think it is the case that One

0:40:33.760 --> 0:40:35.959
<v Speaker 10>Nation have been clear that a vote for One Nation

0:40:36.280 --> 0:40:38.400
<v Speaker 10>is a vote for Peter Dutton as the Prime Minister.

0:40:38.520 --> 0:40:41.960
<v Speaker 10>James as Green said this on television multiple times, and

0:40:42.000 --> 0:40:45.480
<v Speaker 10>indeed the Liberals under Peter Dutton have voted for Pauline

0:40:45.520 --> 0:40:49.280
<v Speaker 10>Hanson with her ninety three percent of the time. So really,

0:40:49.600 --> 0:40:53.040
<v Speaker 10>if you're a former labor voter thinking about voting for

0:40:53.120 --> 0:40:56.000
<v Speaker 10>one nation, you do risk if you vote for one

0:40:56.080 --> 0:40:59.279
<v Speaker 10>nation electing a liberal government, and if that's not what

0:40:59.320 --> 0:41:02.759
<v Speaker 10>you want, you shouldn't be placing you vote with one nation.

0:41:03.360 --> 0:41:07.399
<v Speaker 10>I think one nation traditionally does poll more highly than

0:41:07.440 --> 0:41:11.200
<v Speaker 10>we tend to see an election. It will be interesting

0:41:11.239 --> 0:41:13.520
<v Speaker 10>to see where they go. But a vote for one

0:41:13.600 --> 0:41:15.200
<v Speaker 10>nation is a vote for Peter Dutton.

0:41:15.200 --> 0:41:17.080
<v Speaker 1>All right, I'm going to give you both like thirty

0:41:17.080 --> 0:41:19.360
<v Speaker 1>seconds at the end here, so you're stealing time from yourself.

0:41:19.680 --> 0:41:22.360
<v Speaker 1>What's your message to people who do vote minor party?

0:41:22.400 --> 0:41:23.560
<v Speaker 1>What they have to do with number two?

0:41:24.520 --> 0:41:28.840
<v Speaker 3>To the Liberal Party and the freedom parties to categorize them,

0:41:29.120 --> 0:41:32.640
<v Speaker 3>are giving their preferences to the Liberal Party, and the

0:41:32.680 --> 0:41:37.520
<v Speaker 3>Liberal Party offers stability, It offers a defense, a proper

0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:40.439
<v Speaker 3>defense policy in the light of the threats from both

0:41:40.520 --> 0:41:46.680
<v Speaker 3>China and Russia. It offers instant lessening of the pressures

0:41:46.719 --> 0:41:49.640
<v Speaker 3>for costs of living prices, and it offers good home

0:41:49.640 --> 0:41:50.640
<v Speaker 3>ownership prospects.

0:41:50.680 --> 0:41:52.800
<v Speaker 1>All right, well, there's four seconds left, which means not

0:41:52.960 --> 0:41:54.359
<v Speaker 1>enough time for a final pitch, But have a look

0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:57.520
<v Speaker 1>at this ones in red, ones in blue. All right,

0:41:57.600 --> 0:42:00.799
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate everything pre election. Look forward to the chats

0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:03.160
<v Speaker 1>post selection with both of you. Enjoy If that's the

0:42:03.160 --> 0:42:05.240
<v Speaker 1>why the next few days. Thank you lady, still appreciate

0:42:05.320 --> 0:42:07.480
<v Speaker 1>it all right after the break, the one the name

0:42:07.520 --> 0:42:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Megan Kelly on Sky News next.

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<v Speaker 15>Thanks for watching idiots our favorite time of the wait

0:42:17.520 --> 0:42:19.120
<v Speaker 15>to talk to about favorite person in the world, none

0:42:19.160 --> 0:42:21.800
<v Speaker 15>other than the wonderful Megan Kelly in the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, why is Michelle Obama winging? She seems to always

0:42:25.760 --> 0:42:28.640
<v Speaker 1>be winging? Why are thing so hard for her? Right now?

0:42:28.960 --> 0:42:31.520
<v Speaker 2>I know? I mean because when you're thinking of victims

0:42:31.560 --> 0:42:34.759
<v Speaker 2>of this awful world, you think of Michelle Obama and

0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:38.440
<v Speaker 2>how terrible we've all been to her. This woman is

0:42:38.719 --> 0:42:43.040
<v Speaker 2>a one woman destitution derby. Every time we check in

0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:46.240
<v Speaker 2>on her at her podcast, she is feeling sorry for herself.

0:42:46.480 --> 0:42:50.560
<v Speaker 2>She is criticizing Barack Obama for this country. She never

0:42:50.800 --> 0:42:56.080
<v Speaker 2>has a positive word to say about anything. And the

0:42:56.160 --> 0:43:00.000
<v Speaker 2>latest example was when she went on this other guy's podcast,

0:43:00.280 --> 0:43:03.400
<v Speaker 2>Jay Shetty. She goes and says down with him and

0:43:03.480 --> 0:43:07.279
<v Speaker 2>he asks her what are you afraid of? And she goes.

0:43:07.520 --> 0:43:11.240
<v Speaker 2>She starts off by saying, well, it's not. My fears

0:43:11.239 --> 0:43:13.520
<v Speaker 2>aren't for me, you know, I think about the streets.

0:43:13.680 --> 0:43:14.560
<v Speaker 2>My fears aren't for me.

0:43:14.840 --> 0:43:18.640
<v Speaker 16>Well, in this current climate, for me, it's you know,

0:43:19.120 --> 0:43:20.440
<v Speaker 16>what's happening to immigrants.

0:43:20.719 --> 0:43:24.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I travel in a four car motorcade. After all,

0:43:24.960 --> 0:43:28.839
<v Speaker 2>I'm Michelle Obama. She actually says this, and then she says,

0:43:28.880 --> 0:43:32.520
<v Speaker 2>but you know, I worry for my girls because you know,

0:43:33.000 --> 0:43:36.840
<v Speaker 2>not that much because they are sort of recognizable, but

0:43:36.920 --> 0:43:38.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm worried about them.

0:43:38.600 --> 0:43:38.839
<v Speaker 9>You know.

0:43:38.920 --> 0:43:42.560
<v Speaker 16>So it's it's not the fear for myself anymore. I

0:43:42.680 --> 0:43:46.280
<v Speaker 16>drive around in a four car motorcade with a police escort.

0:43:46.600 --> 0:43:50.640
<v Speaker 16>I'm Michelle Obama. I do still worry about my daughters

0:43:50.680 --> 0:43:53.280
<v Speaker 16>in the world, even though they are somewhat recognizable.

0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:55.000
<v Speaker 2>And then she goes and then you're like, why what's

0:43:55.000 --> 0:43:57.399
<v Speaker 2>going to happen to her girls if they're not recognizable,

0:43:57.600 --> 0:44:01.480
<v Speaker 2>And she goes on a diatribe about the arrests that

0:44:01.520 --> 0:44:05.279
<v Speaker 2>we're making of illegal immigrants and that now we all

0:44:05.320 --> 0:44:07.920
<v Speaker 2>have to live in fear people of color because it's

0:44:07.960 --> 0:44:11.560
<v Speaker 2>a racist Republican party that's running America now that people

0:44:11.600 --> 0:44:13.319
<v Speaker 2>of color, I guess have to live in fear because

0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:16.160
<v Speaker 2>we're all a bunch of racists who made her a

0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:23.080
<v Speaker 2>billionaire and elected her husband president twice. But we're so racist,

0:44:23.160 --> 0:44:25.920
<v Speaker 2>you see, we could just grab any random person of

0:44:25.960 --> 0:44:28.560
<v Speaker 2>color in the street and send them off to El Salvador.

0:44:28.800 --> 0:44:32.320
<v Speaker 16>Now that we have leadership that is sort of indiscriminately

0:44:32.760 --> 0:44:34.800
<v Speaker 16>determining who belongs and who.

0:44:34.640 --> 0:44:38.759
<v Speaker 2>Doesn't American citizen brown, You're done, you know, like that's

0:44:38.800 --> 0:44:42.520
<v Speaker 2>what we're looking for, without any context to the fact

0:44:42.520 --> 0:44:45.480
<v Speaker 2>that all that has happened is they've rounded up illegal

0:44:45.560 --> 0:44:48.640
<v Speaker 2>immigrants and sent them to El Salvador who have already

0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:54.680
<v Speaker 2>been deported and not American citizens. Some the media has

0:44:54.719 --> 0:44:58.760
<v Speaker 2>claimed are American citizens, but they're not no American citizens anyway.

0:44:58.960 --> 0:45:00.680
<v Speaker 2>It's just been so ridiculou and the fact that she

0:45:00.719 --> 0:45:04.160
<v Speaker 2>would try to parlay this into like, I'm so scared

0:45:04.360 --> 0:45:07.520
<v Speaker 2>but also super important, but also, my daughters are brown,

0:45:07.920 --> 0:45:11.200
<v Speaker 2>so they're also potential victims because everyone hates brown people,

0:45:11.640 --> 0:45:14.480
<v Speaker 2>unless they could identify them as as an Obama, in

0:45:14.520 --> 0:45:16.520
<v Speaker 2>which case we'd be fine because everyone loves us. But

0:45:16.680 --> 0:45:19.839
<v Speaker 2>as you can watch the wheels calculate in a way

0:45:19.880 --> 0:45:22.880
<v Speaker 2>that just confirms everything you believed about this woman.

0:45:23.360 --> 0:45:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Now, did you say you're all might rightchel Matda? That

0:45:26.120 --> 0:45:29.600
<v Speaker 1>crisy super mega lifty. She's about to go back into

0:45:29.640 --> 0:45:32.279
<v Speaker 1>the woods because she's done her time. She's done one

0:45:32.320 --> 0:45:35.239
<v Speaker 1>hundred dies, the first hundred dies of the Trump presidency.

0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:38.799
<v Speaker 1>And she says that it's okay, everyone relaxed. Yes, he's

0:45:38.800 --> 0:45:41.720
<v Speaker 1>still president, but democracy is still winning.

0:45:42.160 --> 0:45:46.960
<v Speaker 14>The president is very upset that the polls show that

0:45:47.000 --> 0:45:51.000
<v Speaker 14>the country does not like him, the country really really

0:45:51.120 --> 0:45:53.719
<v Speaker 14>does not like him, and sees his first hundred days

0:45:53.760 --> 0:45:57.720
<v Speaker 14>as a disaster he has had in public opinion terms.

0:45:57.960 --> 0:46:01.520
<v Speaker 14>He has had the most disastrous first hundred days of

0:46:01.600 --> 0:46:06.320
<v Speaker 14>any president since the dawn of modern polling. No president

0:46:06.400 --> 0:46:10.279
<v Speaker 14>has ever botched the first hundred days more badly than

0:46:10.360 --> 0:46:11.719
<v Speaker 14>Donald Trump has botched it.

0:46:12.320 --> 0:46:16.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, so thirty million dollars a year I

0:46:16.920 --> 0:46:19.640
<v Speaker 2>guess maybe they knocked it down to twenty five once

0:46:19.680 --> 0:46:22.120
<v Speaker 2>everybody got fired from the Joy Read Show and she took.

0:46:22.040 --> 0:46:22.439
<v Speaker 15>Us at whatever.

0:46:22.680 --> 0:46:27.440
<v Speaker 2>The point is, she's making gobs of money and working

0:46:27.640 --> 0:46:30.520
<v Speaker 2>one day a week, and she talked about herself going

0:46:30.520 --> 0:46:32.640
<v Speaker 2>to five days in the first one hundred days of

0:46:32.680 --> 0:46:35.680
<v Speaker 2>the Trump presidency, like she was literally going to the

0:46:35.680 --> 0:46:39.680
<v Speaker 2>front lines of a rack. We should be super impressed

0:46:39.680 --> 0:46:43.400
<v Speaker 2>with her courage, her sacrifice, the risk taking, the stress

0:46:43.400 --> 0:46:47.280
<v Speaker 2>she's putting herself through. Again, it's like Michelle Obama's situation.

0:46:47.880 --> 0:46:51.160
<v Speaker 2>We don't care, no one feels sorry for you. Shut

0:46:51.280 --> 0:46:54.360
<v Speaker 2>up and do your stupid job where you sit in

0:46:54.400 --> 0:46:57.560
<v Speaker 2>your air conditioned studio with people running out to powder

0:46:57.600 --> 0:47:00.000
<v Speaker 2>your face. And I mean, I guess somebody has done

0:47:00.040 --> 0:47:03.120
<v Speaker 2>on that hair. It's unclear, but they'd have to be

0:47:03.160 --> 0:47:06.080
<v Speaker 2>insisting on it, wouldn't they. In any event, the same

0:47:06.120 --> 0:47:08.520
<v Speaker 2>outfit every night. We know absolutely no effort is made

0:47:08.560 --> 0:47:11.680
<v Speaker 2>to look good or polished, but in any event, she

0:47:12.480 --> 0:47:15.759
<v Speaker 2>treats it like I mean, honestly, she is risking her

0:47:15.800 --> 0:47:19.520
<v Speaker 2>life to save people on a battlefield, and all she's

0:47:19.600 --> 0:47:24.799
<v Speaker 2>doing is nasty, left wing, non fact based commentary. And

0:47:24.840 --> 0:47:28.640
<v Speaker 2>she does think that that's laudable. She thinks that the

0:47:28.719 --> 0:47:32.920
<v Speaker 2>press is this champion of the people and that Trump

0:47:32.960 --> 0:47:35.560
<v Speaker 2>is very wrong to demonize them as enemy of the people,

0:47:36.080 --> 0:47:38.600
<v Speaker 2>and that they're, you know, the last bastion of democracy,

0:47:38.760 --> 0:47:41.839
<v Speaker 2>saving us from a tyrant who means to unleash these

0:47:41.920 --> 0:47:46.000
<v Speaker 2>this sort of autocratic means of being president upon us

0:47:46.040 --> 0:47:49.680
<v Speaker 2>and that she's their leader. I think she thinks that's

0:47:49.680 --> 0:47:52.080
<v Speaker 2>why it's so important. It's because it makes her important.

0:47:52.320 --> 0:47:55.040
<v Speaker 2>Nowithstanding the fact that her ratings are in the toilet

0:47:55.440 --> 0:47:59.000
<v Speaker 2>as are pretty much all of MSNBC and CNN. The

0:47:59.040 --> 0:48:01.520
<v Speaker 2>only cable chip and putting any numbers on the board

0:48:01.560 --> 0:48:05.760
<v Speaker 2>right now is Fox. Because of Trump obviously, Yeah.

0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:07.560
<v Speaker 1>I love it. The fight is so vital. It's the

0:48:07.560 --> 0:48:10.080
<v Speaker 1>future of our country. But I'm going to be somewhere

0:48:10.080 --> 0:48:11.120
<v Speaker 1>else for the next.

0:48:10.920 --> 0:48:14.080
<v Speaker 2>Three and I'll be in one of my many homes.

0:48:14.160 --> 0:48:16.759
<v Speaker 1>Now forgive me for saying, but you have such a

0:48:16.760 --> 0:48:19.480
<v Speaker 1>wonderful glow about you as always you're one of the

0:48:19.560 --> 0:48:22.400
<v Speaker 1>raisins wearing nighth Day. But I think you've got something

0:48:22.800 --> 0:48:27.040
<v Speaker 1>spatial about you? Is it because you're an astronaut?

0:48:27.200 --> 0:48:31.360
<v Speaker 2>Now? I mean, I still feel uncomfortable calling myself an astronaut.

0:48:31.640 --> 0:48:34.480
<v Speaker 2>I only know that others call me that because I've

0:48:34.520 --> 0:48:36.680
<v Speaker 2>been so now I'm allowed to talk about it. I've

0:48:36.719 --> 0:48:40.480
<v Speaker 2>been all right. I was told explicitly by Gail King,

0:48:40.960 --> 0:48:44.600
<v Speaker 2>who went on that vanity project called the Blue Origin Flight,

0:48:45.080 --> 0:48:47.799
<v Speaker 2>that you're not allowed to criticize her unless you've been

0:48:48.000 --> 0:48:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Have you been? Have you Let's just say I've been.

0:48:53.080 --> 0:48:56.120
<v Speaker 1>In a world where anyone with big money or big

0:48:56.160 --> 0:49:02.680
<v Speaker 1>breasts can reach the stars. Three women, one.

0:49:03.960 --> 0:49:05.480
<v Speaker 2>They all find me very inspiration.

0:49:05.680 --> 0:49:14.279
<v Speaker 1>Yes, limited training, right left, right left, their dream to

0:49:14.480 --> 0:49:19.120
<v Speaker 1>inspire humanity or at least grab a few good selfies.

0:49:21.840 --> 0:49:24.279
<v Speaker 1>That's what we call a deep tase. You can say

0:49:24.320 --> 0:49:26.680
<v Speaker 1>it all on Making Show on Friday. We'll make sure

0:49:26.719 --> 0:49:28.279
<v Speaker 1>we'll let it up on all of our socials. We

0:49:28.360 --> 0:49:29.680
<v Speaker 1>love you, Dolla. We'll see you next week.

0:49:29.760 --> 0:49:30.319
<v Speaker 2>See you, Paul,