Speaker 1: From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray Live. Hello,
Speaker 1: welcome in to the man k. We've got a lot
Speaker 1: of work to do in the next couple of days.
Speaker 1: Let's see how Australia is going to vote. The early
Speaker 1: vote's been big, but it is not as big as
Speaker 1: some people, including myself, thought it was going to be.
Speaker 1: This is a big part of the election story. We
Speaker 1: get into it in a moment's time. Thank you to
Speaker 1: everyone who watched, participated, to the thousands of people who
Speaker 1: send us emails and it literally was thousands of people.
Speaker 1: Thank you to my executive producer, the wonderful Lucy Boyd,
Speaker 1: and our team for putting together what I thought was
Speaker 1: a great hour of Telly. Nice to see the alternative
Speaker 1: Prime Minister, Pete Dutton sitting here taking questions, but also
Speaker 1: in an environment where he could explain himself and you
Speaker 1: can like it, you can dislike it, vote for it
Speaker 1: and not vote for it. Free country. But it's nice
Speaker 1: not to see the interjections, the yelling, the carrying on.
Speaker 1: He had a chance to explain himself and talk quite
Speaker 1: decently about some pretty serious issues, including experiences that he
Speaker 1: had as a police officer when it came to trying
Speaker 1: to save people from family violence and lighter moments like
Speaker 1: telling stories about his mum and dad, popping over to
Speaker 1: New South Wales to play the Poke's on family holidays.
Speaker 1: Tonight I will keep my comments a little briefer that
Speaker 1: I normally do because I want to get to bromin Bishop.
Speaker 1: I want Brom and Bishop to have a big, hard
Speaker 1: run at things tonight. Linda Scott is here as well.
Speaker 1: I look forward to that fight night on this Wednesday night.
Speaker 1: Tomorrow night is when we will do our final State
Speaker 1: of the Race. That will be with Redbridge, with Michael
Speaker 1: Kroger and with Stephen Conroy. So yes, the footy will
Speaker 1: be on, but I'm not going to hide. Make sure
Speaker 1: you are here tomorrow night or Series Lincoln Recorder, do
Speaker 1: all the things you have to be because tomorrow night
Speaker 1: data da da da da da da data, no one
Speaker 1: will be surprised. But tonight you don't have to go
Speaker 1: too far to find awesome people like the wonderful Meghan Kelly,
Speaker 1: the only place you see here on Aussie TV right.
Speaker 2: Here, Gail King, who went on that vanity project called
Speaker 2: the Blue Origin Flight that you're not allowed to criticize
Speaker 2: her unless you've been Have you been? Have you Let's
Speaker 2: just say I've been.
Speaker 1: All right now before I get into the data. And
Speaker 1: there's lots of it today, including some fascinating stuff about
Speaker 1: what I've been talking about for years now, which is
Speaker 1: preferences and how they can swing elections. But while people
Speaker 1: are voting early and again vote tomorrow. If you know
Speaker 1: which way you're going to go and vote, go and
Speaker 1: vote tomorrow. It's all counted on the same day and
Speaker 1: you don't have to wait a few days for your
Speaker 1: vote to be counted. Okay, we know that there is
Speaker 1: this tectonic battle for the future of our country for
Speaker 1: the next three years between the bloke who's been running
Speaker 1: it for the past three or the bloger wants to
Speaker 1: run it for the next three. But we all know
Speaker 1: that there is one thing that the media loves almost
Speaker 1: more than the horse race. It's the data behind the horse.
Speaker 3: Race, poles, holes, holes, holes.
Speaker 1: And tonight I can reveal to you what another organization
Speaker 1: has been reporting. So I'm not revealing, I'm just pumping
Speaker 1: it up here, you know, the Turnbull Times, the Guardian. Now,
Speaker 1: of course, the only reason exists in Australia is because
Speaker 1: the former Prime minister will he helped to get it
Speaker 1: up off the ground. Here he refers to itness, you
Speaker 1: know the sensible centive. We all know it's the wild left. Well,
Speaker 1: he may be regretting the decision because the one thing
Speaker 1: Australians can agree on is how bad Malcolm Turnbull was
Speaker 1: as a prime minister. In fact, they did a poll
Speaker 1: in amongst all of their other election polling and it
Speaker 1: had a look at all of the former prime ministers
Speaker 1: and guests who came stone motherless last, the miserable Ghost himself.
Speaker 1: He is dead last in a list of our best
Speaker 1: former prime ministers. The order goes as you can see,
Speaker 1: John Howard first, Bob Hawk second, Kevin Rudd third, Julia
Speaker 1: Gillard fourth, Anthony Alberaneze fifth, Tony Abbott sixth, followed by Morrison, Keating, Whitlam,
Speaker 1: Fraser and dead last. How good that the one thing
Speaker 1: we can all agree on, regardless of which way we
Speaker 1: are going to be voting left, right or center at
Speaker 1: this election, is Malcolm Turnbull was the worst Prime minister
Speaker 1: of recent years. The miserable Ghost. Of course, it doesn't
Speaker 1: stop the turbul times constantly turning to him for interviews
Speaker 1: or him angry tweeting, or him even having the balls
Speaker 1: to refer to how boring this election is. Remember it
Speaker 1: was his decision to have an eight week election campaign,
Speaker 1: one where he took a ninety seat majority and barely
Speaker 1: held onto majority government. The bloke who was so sooky.
Speaker 1: Remember he wouldn't even leave the pink house on election night.
Speaker 1: But also another thing that we learned via these poles,
Speaker 1: and again not a right wing think tank. They're published
Speaker 1: in the Guardian, is that Green's voters are miserable. I'm
Speaker 1: not making that up. I'm just going off the evidence.
Speaker 1: They went by affiliation are they asked about how happy
Speaker 1: are you with your life? Overall? Coalition voters happiest of all,
Speaker 1: followed by Labor and then the Greens who are miserable
Speaker 1: about their life compared to the other major parties. That's
Speaker 1: their life overall, in their family life. Look at this,
Speaker 1: Look how happy a Liberal or National Party voter is.
Speaker 1: Compare that to the Labor Party. All those miserable Greens,
Speaker 1: and you know how they're the young cool kids. Well,
Speaker 1: guess who has the worst social life. The Greens the
Speaker 1: best social life, the best life over all, the best
Speaker 1: personal life, and their best family life. This is in
Speaker 1: the Guardian Coalition voters. And of course we know that
Speaker 1: the Greens voters are so miserable because the planet's about
Speaker 1: to explode at any one moment, and they have to
Speaker 1: pretend that they like Adam Bant DJing. Yeah, he's so cool.
Speaker 1: I don't care how many of its social media influences
Speaker 1: he has. Who would want to listen to that? Three
Speaker 1: days to go. Australia is at a fork in the road.
Speaker 1: We are presented with one eah in every three years,
Speaker 1: and there are just three days to go. According to
Speaker 1: the AEC, there have been four point six million people
Speaker 1: who have already voted. Now this is really interesting because
Speaker 1: a lot of people thought that half of all people
Speaker 1: would end up voting early. That's what the trends seem
Speaker 1: to suggest. But of course eighteen million people are on
Speaker 1: the electoral roll basically five million today. Let's imagine it's
Speaker 1: another million tomorrow. That takes us to six and then
Speaker 1: it gets us to maybe seven million people before election day. Well,
Speaker 1: of course that means that eleven million people will choose
Speaker 1: to vote on Saturday. That means what is happening in
Speaker 1: the final days matters. The final ads they start to
Speaker 1: turn off after midnight, but the social media ramp up
Speaker 1: and there'll be other ways. But still the final days matter,
Speaker 1: just like they did in twenty nineteen, just as they
Speaker 1: did in elections passed. But the final days matter very
Speaker 1: much so here in twenty and twenty five of the
Speaker 1: different places around the country, it's actually surprisingly mostly safe
Speaker 1: seats that seem to be voting early. Why because many
Speaker 1: people in those safe seats you would imagine, are just
Speaker 1: happy to lock in who they've voted for for a
Speaker 1: long time. Interesting that the number one location right now
Speaker 1: A lot of these are in Queensland, and you see
Speaker 1: habit wise, there were some seats in the queens And
Speaker 1: election where it was up to seventy percent of people
Speaker 1: who voted early, So Queensland likes to get it done early.
Speaker 1: In Bowmen, which is the Liberal Nationals, then the Green seat,
Speaker 1: which is highly contestable here, with both the Coalition and
Speaker 1: Labour thinking they might be able to pull it back
Speaker 1: from the Greens. Dawson pretty safe seat for the Liberal
Speaker 1: Nowational Party, the same for Fadden. Where are we now again?
Speaker 1: When things were better in the polls, this was considered
Speaker 1: to be a tight seat. The Labor Party think that
Speaker 1: the Poles are going to pull it back into their column,
Speaker 1: But the preferences of one nation might be putting this
Speaker 1: one back on the line. Flinders in Victoria, Dawson in Queensland,
Speaker 1: Macon in South Australia, Capricornia in Queensland and the Labor
Speaker 1: held seat of Gorton in Victoria are the places where
Speaker 1: people are voting now. I have long talked about how
Speaker 1: I understand that there are many Australians who are frustrated
Speaker 1: with the two parties of government. They'll be frustrated with
Speaker 1: the Labour Party for obvious reasons, They'll be frustrated with
Speaker 1: the Liberal Party for a whole bunch of reasons, which
Speaker 1: means your preferences matter, and for your vote to be
Speaker 1: a serious vote, for your vote to count, for your
Speaker 1: vote to actually reaffirm or change the government, I believe
Speaker 1: that you need to pick a government with the vote
Speaker 1: that you put at number two. Now we know that
Speaker 1: traditionally most people who vote for the Greens will end
Speaker 1: up putting the Labor Party at number two in many
Speaker 1: ways because they're how to vote forms will tell them
Speaker 1: to do so. And in twenty twenty two, people who
Speaker 1: voted for one nation, the Palmer Party, Libertarian and lots
Speaker 1: of others. They did not give that number two to
Speaker 1: the Liberal Party the way they did in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: The way they did in twenty nineteen was part of
Speaker 1: the story behind the surprise election victory of Scott Morrison,
Speaker 1: the one that we all saw coming, that we knew
Speaker 1: was happening. But is this about to be something potentially
Speaker 1: that will make things a little more competitive than they
Speaker 1: may well seem? Now? Virtually every national poll right now
Speaker 1: is sitting somewhere at fifty two forty eight or fifty
Speaker 1: three forty seven in favor of labor. But the X
Speaker 1: factor does seem to be one nation. I'm pleased to
Speaker 1: other people are starting to notice. But we have been
Speaker 1: on this well for years. But we've certainly been consistent
Speaker 1: about this for months because the polls have told us
Speaker 1: that one nation supported the last federal election was five percent,
Speaker 1: but in the poll released by The Guardian it's almost
Speaker 1: double news Pole. The gold Standard again shows that is
Speaker 1: outside of margin of error in terms of its growth.
Speaker 1: Even Resolve and the Wild Pole of Morgan all show
Speaker 1: a significant increase in the primary vote of one nation.
Speaker 1: Now of course, that is a national figure, but in
Speaker 1: some states that number will be way higher. In some
Speaker 1: seats that will be way lower. So it's difficult to
Speaker 1: turn around and say what the ultimate impact of one
Speaker 1: nation is going to be. But in outer suburban seats,
Speaker 1: the ones that have delivered massive drops in the primary
Speaker 1: vote of the Labor Party at state elections, even in
Speaker 1: the by elections in places like Victoria, we know that
Speaker 1: one nation has a significant following there. One nation in
Speaker 1: the past three years has been able to get people
Speaker 1: elected to the West Australian, South Australian, New South Wales
Speaker 1: and Victorian parliaments. They are knocking on the door of
Speaker 1: a Senate spot in many of those states. In places
Speaker 1: with lower populations, if their vote is higher than obviously
Speaker 1: ten percent of a smaller group of people starts to
Speaker 1: have a bigger impact, Which is why one nation is
Speaker 1: a massive chance of knocking off Jackie Lamby in Tasmania,
Speaker 1: where candidates like the one running in the seat of
Speaker 1: Hunter may well be outperforming the major parties. So if
Speaker 1: it becomes a two horse race, there could be some
Speaker 1: wild results that might come in. Now I was trying
Speaker 1: to research this today to say, well is this a
Speaker 1: phenomenon that happens at every election, that one nation always
Speaker 1: polls better than it does. And the truth is, I
Speaker 1: can show you pole where the polls were maybe one
Speaker 1: or two points better than the national result, but I've
Speaker 1: never seen polling that was almost double their previous election
Speaker 1: result that didn't result in a higher actual vote for
Speaker 1: one nation. Again, look at those poles. Everyone will sit
Speaker 1: there and be surprised on Saturday night the polls if
Speaker 1: they're wrong, Okay, we learn a lesson. But if history
Speaker 1: gives us a guide to the future, something's happening right
Speaker 1: now with one Nation. Now, it's easy to turn around
Speaker 1: and say that for quote unquote right wing voters, they
Speaker 1: might be annoyed on a whole bunch of issues with
Speaker 1: the Liberal Party, so that's what that vote is. But
Speaker 1: for a bunch of people, it may well be people
Speaker 1: from the Labor Party who go you know what, I
Speaker 1: mightn't walk all the way to the Libs, but I'm
Speaker 1: going to go via one Nation. So what happens with
Speaker 1: your preference matters. In fact, our mate Tom Connell, who
Speaker 1: is the best in the business at reading the numbers, he,
Speaker 1: among others, has been looking into this at sky in years,
Speaker 1: and they see that there has been a change in
Speaker 1: some of those how to vote forms for one nation
Speaker 1: where the Libs might have been at three, four, five
Speaker 1: or six, but bring them up to number two. So
Speaker 1: exactly what we've been talking about is what happens, which
Speaker 1: is you vote for one nation. You vote for one
Speaker 1: nation as number one in the lower House, number one
Speaker 1: in the Senate. The number one vote in the Senate
Speaker 1: will get a senator elected. The likelihood of a one
Speaker 1: nation person winning your local seat probably unlikely. But what
Speaker 1: you do with number two will be the difference about
Speaker 1: whether we need three more years of the current mob
Speaker 1: or there's a chance of a change. And again, if
Speaker 1: the trends are the trends, that Labour looks like it's
Speaker 1: about to be re elected. It looks like on some
Speaker 1: poles it may have even improved on this primary vote
Speaker 1: from the last election, meaning they could be in a
Speaker 1: scenario where we're not talking about a minority government, we're
Speaker 1: talking about a majority government, and maybe even a majority
Speaker 1: government with slightly more seats. But those fifty two to
Speaker 1: forty eight numbers are based off the science of the
Speaker 1: way preferences worked of the last elect not the way
Speaker 1: that they will work in this election. So if the
Speaker 1: preferences from one nation, Family First, Libertarian and trumpets actually
Speaker 1: end up with a one for those party but a
Speaker 1: two for the Liberal Party, then fifty two forty eight
Speaker 1: quickly becomes fifty one forty nine. Fifty one forty nine
Speaker 1: quickly becomes fifty to fifty. And there are dozens of
Speaker 1: contestable seats right now that are polling anywhere between fifty
Speaker 1: one forty nine. There's about a dozen or so right
Speaker 1: now that are bang on fifty fifty. Now again, the
Speaker 1: margin of era could well mean that currently fifty to
Speaker 1: fifty is really fifty two forty eight in favor of
Speaker 1: the Labor Party. Well, none of that's a surprise, because
Speaker 1: we know where the trends are. But this is the
Speaker 1: difference between the science of polling and the reality of
Speaker 1: an election. The reality of an election where we thought
Speaker 1: many more people will have voted by now, and millions have,
Speaker 1: but basically we haven't hit halfway yet, meaning the final
Speaker 1: days will matter. And interestingly, in the Financial Review, Philip Kurry,
Speaker 1: the guy who you know I often celebrate is the
Speaker 1: exception of the rule of the way that the press
Speaker 1: gallery thinks he had some research from one of the
Speaker 1: companies that does the polling for the Financial Review, and
Speaker 1: he wrote this story preferences from one nation another right
Speaker 1: of center minority parties are surging towards the Coalition at
Speaker 1: a higher rate than the last election. So maybe twenty
Speaker 1: nineteen is happening again. It's called preference discipline, fuelling expectations
Speaker 1: of Peter Dutton could snatch some of these outer suburban
Speaker 1: labor heartland seats because of cost of living. The issue
Speaker 1: that everyone has had is number one for the past
Speaker 1: three years, the one that we have not trusted the
Speaker 1: government on for all of the time they've been in place.
Speaker 1: I see polling by JWS research backs the internal findings
Speaker 1: of both major parties that certain demographic, sorry that a
Speaker 1: certain demographic of seats outer suburban mortgage belt electorates with
Speaker 1: blue collar workforces, substantial community commute times, and high cost
Speaker 1: of living sensitivities, in some cases high crime rates are
Speaker 1: behaving differently to the rest of the electorate in such seats.
Speaker 1: One Nation plus other minor parties on the rights such
Speaker 1: as Family First and the Partner Parties collectively ten percent
Speaker 1: of the vote. Those swinging to such parties include disaffected
Speaker 1: labor voters who, rather than directing their preferences to the
Speaker 1: Liberal Party, are going via these other parties. Consequently, eighty
Speaker 1: to ninety percent of right of center preferences are flowing
Speaker 1: to the coalition, whereas the national average of the last
Speaker 1: election was just two thirds. This is really interesting. Now
Speaker 1: I have to talk about the science behind some of
Speaker 1: that evidence, which a lot of people today have turned
Speaker 1: around and have called bunkum, which is it's basically they've
Speaker 1: asked people, as they're voted early, what did you do
Speaker 1: with your preferences? The total number that they are asking
Speaker 1: is lower than the number that are asked for a
Speaker 1: national poll. So is this the Orange mirage? Who knows,
Speaker 1: but we know the difference between twenty nineteen and twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two wasn't just the overall vote for the Liberal Party,
Speaker 1: but it was what people did on the seter right
Speaker 1: of Australian politics, what people did with number two, and
Speaker 1: the fact that the people who are to the center
Speaker 1: right are now coalescing. Specifically around one nation, pay attention
Speaker 1: to what its leader is saying about what you need
Speaker 1: to do with number two when it comes down to
Speaker 1: your moment to choose the government we have or the
Speaker 1: government we could have. I think Pauline's pretty clear.
Speaker 4: They've lied and lied and lied. And that's exactly what
Speaker 4: this prime minister has done. He's lied about immigration, cost living,
Speaker 4: everything he's lied the people about. I don't trust him,
Speaker 4: and I hope the people wake up themselves and don't
Speaker 4: give him another term of government.
Speaker 1: Now. I've got to be careful here, but I also
Speaker 1: want to give you a little bit of an inside
Speaker 1: tip that no major party wants me to give you.
Speaker 1: I'm going to lose some friends for what I'm about
Speaker 1: to tell you. If you are part of that majority
Speaker 1: of voters now who are thinking about turning up on
Speaker 1: election day, and maybe you don't like how aggressive the
Speaker 1: how to vote stuff is, when everyone's shoving something under
Speaker 1: your nose or someone sneering at you, or and you
Speaker 1: feel maybe a little bit nervous about walking up to
Speaker 1: any political party and taking their how to vote for
Speaker 1: them because you think that it's telling everyone else how
Speaker 1: you can to vote. And if the color of the
Speaker 1: piece of paper that you're holding is the one that
Speaker 1: everyone else doesn't like, then it might be uncomfortable for you.
Speaker 1: Or maybe you want to vote for a minor party
Speaker 1: or a local candidate who doesn't have the same volunteers
Speaker 1: as the major parties, let alone the union forces of
Speaker 1: the Labor Party or the activists of the Greens, you
Speaker 1: can download your how to vote form and you can
Speaker 1: do it tonight. In the case of one Nation, you
Speaker 1: can go to vote dot one Nation, dot org, dot AU.
Speaker 1: You can put in your electorate, you can put in
Speaker 1: your address and there it is. They'll tell you who
Speaker 1: the local candidate is and how to follow their how
Speaker 1: to votes if you want to. Now you can do
Speaker 1: the same when you google how to vote Labor, how
Speaker 1: to Vote Liberal, how to Vote Greens. All of the
Speaker 1: parties offer this service, so it means if you don't
Speaker 1: want to run the gauntlet and to show your hand
Speaker 1: about which way you're going to vote, you can arm
Speaker 1: yourself for that information tonight. You can print it, or
Speaker 1: depending on the party, you can save it to your phone,
Speaker 1: and in the same way that you use your phone
Speaker 1: to board an air aplane or you download the tickets
Speaker 1: to go to a show, you can do exactly the
Speaker 1: same thing when it comes to voting. The sound you
Speaker 1: can hear some people yelling at the TV because they
Speaker 1: know the last minute pressure does move some people around
Speaker 1: the last minute jitters about do I want to take
Speaker 1: that how to vote? Do I want to show that
Speaker 1: person you don't have to? It doesn't matter if you
Speaker 1: vote tomorrow or on Friday or on Saturday tonight. Go
Speaker 1: and search how to vote and insert the person that
Speaker 1: you want to vote for. But the bit that is
Speaker 1: outside of my public information is that whatever you do
Speaker 1: with number two, make sure that you pick the one
Speaker 1: you want to win the election. When it comes to
Speaker 1: the Senate, it is much easier for you to be
Speaker 1: able to vote just one through six above the line.
Speaker 1: Or if you're a superherd like me, you love putting
Speaker 1: a particular candidate four hundred and thirty first, and you
Speaker 1: play that game and your misses this going. Do we
Speaker 1: really have? Yes? All right? It's one of the joys
Speaker 1: I enjoy of voting, as well as as many sausages
Speaker 1: as possible. For obvious reasons, how to vote, insert who
Speaker 1: you want to vote for, download it to your phone,
Speaker 1: print it off, fold it over. No one sees the color,
Speaker 1: So thank you, thank you, thank you, and vote. As
Speaker 1: for the Prime Minister trying to effect that vote, in
Speaker 1: the last few days. He was playing a home game
Speaker 1: today at the National Press Club. This was his best
Speaker 1: attack line. And when I mean that, I just mean
Speaker 1: his latest lie on Dunton.
Speaker 5: Their plans are fundamentally wrong for Australia. Look at their
Speaker 5: proposal to ban working from home. Last month, Peter Dutton
Speaker 5: said that women who couldn't be in the office five
Speaker 5: days a week should just chob share his words, not mine,
Speaker 5: a statement that is so out of touch with the
Speaker 5: lives of modern families and the flexibility that working from
Speaker 5: home gives parents in.
Speaker 1: Particular, garbage, lies, rubbish Andrew Bolton his comments particularly tonight
Speaker 1: was excellent, as was Chris Kenny and Peter Creslin and
Speaker 1: Shery Marks and see no favorites love everyone about being
Speaker 1: able to go through and just point out life, a life,
Speaker 1: a life, a life, a lie, good stuff as people
Speaker 1: are calling all of that out. Remember it's not just
Speaker 1: for information for you watching, but find the videos ats
Speaker 1: gone news dot com, dot are, you share them on
Speaker 1: your social media, send them to the people who need
Speaker 1: to see that information. Okay, you still have an opportunity
Speaker 1: to not just vote tomorrow, but to commence somebody about
Speaker 1: why you think that they should be better informed about
Speaker 1: which way they are going to go on Saturday, that
Speaker 1: it's Sky News dot Com that a you or of
Speaker 1: course on our YouTube channel. As for Peter Dutton, well
Speaker 1: today he was out and about as well. He was
Speaker 1: particularly I think focused in Victoria. This was his best
Speaker 1: hit after being with us last night with Ask Me
Speaker 1: Anything Again. Thanks to everyone who helped us out with that.
Speaker 6: It's an amazing revelation but refreshing to know that President
Speaker 6: Trump has a phone. So we're told by the Prime
Speaker 6: Ministry may not have a phone. I don't know why
Speaker 6: the Prime ministery can't just be honest. I'm me just
Speaker 6: say that I don't have his number.
Speaker 1: Now. One thing that I have got pretty good insight
Speaker 1: into because it has been my career, it's been my passion.
Speaker 1: It's been what I dreamt of as a kid is
Speaker 1: about the media, right, and I'm very lucky that I'm
Speaker 1: sitting here fifteen years into the three hundred years that
Speaker 1: I'll be with you on this program fingers grossed health
Speaker 1: wise at least, which is how the media works. I've
Speaker 1: worked as the most junior of reporters and now I
Speaker 1: sit here and have for the past fifteen years talking
Speaker 1: about matters big, small, and all and indifferent. And I've
Speaker 1: never seen the bias in terms of the reporters questions
Speaker 1: and the way that they address the one they like
Speaker 1: and the one they don't like. Because as if this
Speaker 1: doesn't inform their reporting, which informs how people are informed
Speaker 1: about the election. Let's compare the questions for the Prime
Speaker 1: minister today.
Speaker 7: Do you believe that, given these new uncertain elements in
Speaker 7: the global outlook, we need to tweak our defense posture
Speaker 7: towards one that's more focused on the defense of Australia
Speaker 7: aside from what we're doing with Orcus.
Speaker 8: If the polls are right next year, you'll be have
Speaker 8: been apartment for thirty years. That thirty year stretch will
Speaker 8: almost perfectly bookend Australia's golden era when we had huge
Speaker 8: amounts of prosperity. What tough decisions are you prepared to
Speaker 8: take in the next term of government if you win,
Speaker 8: to ensure that the golden era doesn't end with you.
Speaker 9: Joe Exotic from the hit series Tiger King is on
Speaker 9: a more serious note, is serving a prison sentence for
Speaker 9: murder and has been convicted of animal abuse. He's also
Speaker 9: just endorsed you on Instagram. How do you feel about that?
Speaker 1: Compare that to the treatment they are giving Peter Dunton.
Speaker 1: They are giving him fourteen barrels not just to compare the.
Speaker 10: Pair, mister dun and CPI figures are out today.
Speaker 1: If inflation falls, is that a vindication of Labour's economic success?
Speaker 4: Ethne Albaneasi assult news dot com dot you that photos see.
Speaker 8: You as aligned with Donald Trump and that is not
Speaker 8: something that they want in this country.
Speaker 1: What's your response to that? I asked you yesterday?
Speaker 9: Where they're keeping a candidate who will blame someone's mother
Speaker 9: for their daughter experiencing domestic violence squares with your plan.
Speaker 7: To tackle the issue.
Speaker 9: I just wanted to check with you again today while
Speaker 9: we're out of charity, if you still think an apology
Speaker 9: is enough for someone to stay on as a candidate.
Speaker 2: Costumes tomorrow reveal increased spending on additional consultants.
Speaker 4: To make up for the forty one thousand public servants
Speaker 4: that you climb to suck in cameras.
Speaker 11: Another this is a sect who Lifted, which treats women
Speaker 11: as second class. At are the citizens that doesn't tolerate
Speaker 11: homosexuality at all? Surely you don't think those are shad
Speaker 11: values with.
Speaker 4: The glory of the good. How can you say that
Speaker 4: you know the specific cost of your nuclear plan when
Speaker 4: you haven't finalized the models that you'll useable.
Speaker 1: Wait till tomorrow night, when we get to look back
Speaker 1: at all of the campaign, and we'll do all the
Speaker 1: softies versus all of the toughies. We thought more than
Speaker 1: half of people had voted, They haven't, they won't. Meaning
Speaker 1: the final days matter, Meaning every conversation matters, Meaning every
Speaker 1: piece of information matters. What you do with your preferences matters,
Speaker 1: How you inform yourself as a voter matters, how you
Speaker 1: arm yourself to be able to go to the polls matters.
Speaker 1: And I'm so glad that you've spent this campaign as
Speaker 1: well as many others and many others to come with us,
Speaker 1: and that deeply matters a lot to me. Quick break
Speaker 1: back with more here on Pulmote Life. All right, Everyone
Speaker 1: in the man cave, everyone's seated, Everyone ready for a
Speaker 1: fun one. They're even dressed appropriately. Proud in red is
Speaker 1: Linda Scott? Proud in blue is Bromwin? Bishop? Love you
Speaker 1: to see you both? Can we agree at the start though,
Speaker 1: did we all agree with the poll in the Guardian
Speaker 1: that Malcolm Turnbull is the worst recent prime minister. He
Speaker 1: came dead last, dead last. What a nice way to start.
Speaker 1: And also that even in the Guardian polling people least
Speaker 1: happy about their personal life, their family life or their
Speaker 1: social life Green's voters, Green's voters.
Speaker 10: They should have thrown lows trust in there. That would
Speaker 10: have made it.
Speaker 1: What did we just get to pick other leaders from
Speaker 1: around the world? All right, guys, so I want to
Speaker 1: get to lots of different things, and I get how
Speaker 1: high passions are right now, but let's just deal with
Speaker 1: obvious questions. Okay, why would you all guys win? Linda
Speaker 1: well good?
Speaker 10: I think this is about teams in winning, It's about
Speaker 10: what Australians deserve. And I think Australians have been really
Speaker 10: clear they want deserve cost of living support and relief,
Speaker 10: and labors put forward a really positive plan free TAFE,
Speaker 10: support for Medicare, tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts, a
Speaker 10: whole comprehensive plan wage rises in so many different areas
Speaker 10: to give Australians the cost of leef for living that
Speaker 10: they deserve. I don't know who will win. I don't
Speaker 10: take anything for granted, but I do think Australians deserve
Speaker 10: a consistent, steady hand, and that is with the reelection
Speaker 10: of Anthony Aubanez's Prime Minister.
Speaker 1: Robin, why is your mob going to win or get
Speaker 1: close enough?
Speaker 3: Because there's a fundamental message that says cost of living
Speaker 3: is the problem. Let's look at what is driving that
Speaker 3: cost of living, and fuel and energy are at the
Speaker 3: basis of it. So the plan to cut the twenty
Speaker 3: five cents off the petrol cost by harving the tax
Speaker 3: on fuel is a solid policy that delivers help for everybody,
Speaker 3: stay at home, mum's pensioners, kids, learning to drive, everybody
Speaker 3: it assists and it is noticed. I think and realize
Speaker 3: that that does address the cost of bringing the apple
Speaker 3: to the warehouse, to the supermarket, to your purchase in
Speaker 3: your basket. The second reason is because I think people
Speaker 3: will finally wake up to the fact that the Labor
Speaker 3: Party's policy is pitch is based on lies, one after
Speaker 3: the other.
Speaker 1: I watched that.
Speaker 3: Address to the National First Club and I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 3: He'd been called out on so many issues that were
Speaker 3: lives and yet there they were being repeated, just like
Speaker 3: Lennon said, repeat it lie often enough somebody will believe
Speaker 3: it's the truth.
Speaker 1: Well, but then you saw some of the questions being
Speaker 1: asked to Peter Dunnet, which are a repetition of the
Speaker 1: lies you're planning to cut for Sack forty two. These
Speaker 1: are the so called middle of the road people. Thankfully
Speaker 1: some of the heavy hitters have started to push back
Speaker 1: in world under, particularly to Andrew Clenel on that today.
Speaker 1: But can I just quickly about inflation, okay, because obviously
Speaker 1: cost of living there's two ways to view it, all right,
Speaker 1: You exclusively through the indices that come out of the
Speaker 1: statistics that the Bureau Statistics that informs what the Reserve
Speaker 1: Bank is going to do. Okay, And yes, inflation back
Speaker 1: down between two and three okay, But there is always
Speaker 1: a butt and it is the lived reality versus the
Speaker 1: Hey have a look at the number over here, all right.
Speaker 1: So today Jim Chalmers came out and obviously celebrated the
Speaker 1: idea that we are now back into that two to
Speaker 1: three percent. I've got arguments about how and why, but
Speaker 1: still this is him saying, yeah, a couple of days
Speaker 1: before an election.
Speaker 12: This is proof of the responsible economic management which has
Speaker 12: been A defining feature of this alban easy labor government
Speaker 12: only problem.
Speaker 1: Is there's an awful lot of stuff that's nowhere near
Speaker 1: two to three percent. In fact, if you compared this
Speaker 1: march to last March, guess what's been going up by
Speaker 1: a lot more than the headline numbers. In fact, you
Speaker 1: can have a look. This again is not so far
Speaker 1: right wing think tank. This is the stuff that comes
Speaker 1: out of the Bureau Statistics. Tobacco, Okay, I'm not a
Speaker 1: smoker who cares fruit and veg. It's not two percent
Speaker 1: or four percent, it's almost eight. Booze, gas and other
Speaker 1: household fuels. Education, what about people trying to pay off
Speaker 1: a rent again, booze, non alcoholic beverages, your health, holidays, insurance,
Speaker 1: meat and seafood, other food products, recreation and culture. All
Speaker 1: of that stuff is above the numbers that they are
Speaker 1: celebrating today. And as was explained by a finance guy
Speaker 1: in the UK, it doesn't matter what this number is
Speaker 1: this month. It is from when things were normal to
Speaker 1: what they are today. So Jim Chalmers can turn around
Speaker 1: and say, gold staff for me, we're back to between
Speaker 1: two and three percent. But let's compare where we started
Speaker 1: with where we are.
Speaker 13: Inflation is really just measuring the difference between that and that.
Speaker 13: And if you look at those two lines, you're talking
Speaker 13: about a two point three percent change. That's the number
Speaker 13: we're talking about today. But for a lot of people
Speaker 13: it's not about that. It's about the difference between this
Speaker 13: and that. And when you look at the difference between
Speaker 13: this and that, that's twenty percent. And I think that's
Speaker 13: the dichotomy here between these inflation numbers where it looks normal,
Speaker 13: and this which is really not normal at aols.
Speaker 1: And that's part of this That's why the government's tried
Speaker 1: to talk about anything but cost of living. All right, Oh,
Speaker 1: we're going to have a multiple month then carrying on
Speaker 1: pretending that Medicare is the center of the election. Right
Speaker 1: they know if it was a cost living election, their
Speaker 1: backside would be handed to them. I don't know what's
Speaker 1: going to happen on Saturday, but how can you tell
Speaker 1: me that the people who've been dissatisfied with the government
Speaker 1: for the past two years will suddenly forget that if
Speaker 1: they're paying off a house, they've had to find an
Speaker 1: extra twenty seven six hundred dollars a year to pay
Speaker 1: the mortgage off compared to before the last election, eighteen
Speaker 1: one hundred dollars a month. The average mortgage repayment now
Speaker 1: four thousand dollars. That's twenty seven thousand, six hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: What about your power bill? Now we know that that
Speaker 1: was supposed to go down by two seventy five, but
Speaker 1: it's gone up, and I think it's higher for most
Speaker 1: other people. But when it comes to this three oundred
Speaker 1: and thirty four, what about you're trying to pay off
Speaker 1: your rent that's gone from four hundred and seventy six
Speaker 1: dollars to six hundred and twenty seven dollars, which means
Speaker 1: annually the amount of money you've had to fined. It's
Speaker 1: not one hundred and fifty one per week times fifty two.
Speaker 1: As for the people who were trying to pay off
Speaker 1: their home insurance, it was eight hundred and thirty dollars
Speaker 1: for average home insurance. It's now two thousand, seven hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy seven dollars. That's nineteen hundred dollars more. Remember
Speaker 1: what they promised last time, yet that's what they delivered. Yet, ladies.
Speaker 1: Today the Red Bridge Organization released information about what is
Speaker 1: the main policies that are going to start moving people
Speaker 1: when it comes to votes. You can interpret these about
Speaker 1: whether you think the labor policy or the liberal policy,
Speaker 1: and you can start to put together why labor might
Speaker 1: be up in the polls or something might be about
Speaker 1: to happen on Saturday. Number one number one promise was
Speaker 1: the Bob billing claims, despite the fact that the Health
Speaker 1: Minister has also turned around and said you'd still need
Speaker 1: your credit cut as well. But whatever the lie kicking in,
Speaker 1: banning price gouging on supermarkets, halving the fuel excise, introducing
Speaker 1: temporary tax cut for twelve hundred dollars in the hands,
Speaker 1: so basically to labor, then it keeps going and going
Speaker 1: and going from there. But on that list, and again
Speaker 1: not what I might point it out, but I just
Speaker 1: wanted to explain why the gold stars they're handing out
Speaker 1: of themselve elves may not be rose pedals on Saturday.
Speaker 1: What does it say to you if the number one
Speaker 1: policy is the number one and two are labor, closely
Speaker 1: followed by three and four. But if Labour's winning on
Speaker 1: apparently this poll, is that indicative of what you think
Speaker 1: happens at the election?
Speaker 3: Well, I think that the lie that has been told
Speaker 3: about Medicare has been told so often I'm not refuted.
Speaker 3: It's been repeated by journalists and repeated and repeated on
Speaker 3: news bulletins on print media. It doesn't matter that it
Speaker 3: has frightened a lot of people. Now, what frightens me
Speaker 3: more is what labor's got in its back pocket that's
Speaker 3: going to come out this tax on capital gains, tax
Speaker 3: on unrealized capital gains. And today the prime ministers said.
Speaker 1: I'm not changing that policy now.
Speaker 3: The people that's really going to impact on the millennials
Speaker 3: because they're going to be paying in their superannuation for
Speaker 3: a long time. Yet now I'll get to three million,
Speaker 3: it's not index and they will be the ones who's hit.
Speaker 3: And it's theft. It's thieving your investment money for your retirement.
Speaker 3: It's four gone wages. It's not labor party money. Eight
Speaker 3: billion dollars goes from that industry into the labor party coffers.
Speaker 3: It's a good source of revenue for them and they
Speaker 3: want more. But they also want it in tax. So
Speaker 3: once that tax is established, is it going to be
Speaker 3: applied to the family home as well? I mean that
Speaker 3: fear question is a legitimate fear, unlike the Medicare fear,
Speaker 3: which is not a legitimate fear. Well, it's been repeated
Speaker 3: so often that it is having an impact.
Speaker 1: Well, and that there's a story in the channel on
Speaker 1: newspapers tonight that Labor is concerned that this conversation about
Speaker 1: your retirement about superannuation may well end up flipping an election.
Speaker 1: This really matters why, because it isn't half of all
Speaker 1: people that have already voted.
Speaker 10: Yeah, look, a lot of people have already voted. But
Speaker 10: people have been clear that they're focused about the things
Speaker 10: in front of them. And I had to, you know,
Speaker 10: take my son to emergency last week. I couldn't be
Speaker 10: here on the show and I'm sorry about that. But
Speaker 10: those things are important. The cost of healthcare, the cost
Speaker 10: of people groceries, these are important. It's why Labours tried
Speaker 10: to put forward really concrete plans to solve the problems
Speaker 10: that people in Australia are talking about today. And medicare
Speaker 10: is one of those. Getting access to healthcare is one
Speaker 10: of those. Getting access to cheaper medicines in pharmacies is
Speaker 10: another problem that Labour has put forward solutions having Peter
Speaker 10: Dutton has having revenue in the nation roman But having.
Speaker 3: Your future income solutions threatened and your future assets which
Speaker 3: you are not realizing, which you're not receiving anything for
Speaker 3: and being taxed at this rate is something that will
Speaker 3: terrify people. It is something that threatens every working day
Speaker 3: that they have put in in their life to put
Speaker 3: money aside for their future.
Speaker 14: And it's going to be.
Speaker 3: Taken now if you establish that principle and it came
Speaker 3: from Joe Biden originally. It is the idea of putting
Speaker 3: that tax on just every day, I said to the people, and.
Speaker 1: People know that that.
Speaker 3: People know that socialist governments tax and spend, and this
Speaker 3: is a socialist government, whichever way you put it.
Speaker 10: From when I totally is going to happen. I'm on
Speaker 10: the board of a superannuation fund.
Speaker 3: So well, are you're a Labor Party person? Well, that's
Speaker 3: not true, and it's an industry fund. Is a board
Speaker 3: with it's an industry fund.
Speaker 10: It is an industry fund, right, and you get a
Speaker 10: lawyer nomination.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what we've brought.
Speaker 10: Coalition policy also proposing to change the laws about preservation
Speaker 10: to allow people to dip in and have to absolutely
Speaker 10: so they.
Speaker 3: Can buy a home.
Speaker 1: Also choice whether they take it out versus the government
Speaker 1: turning around and saying.
Speaker 10: Well, no, the re aliens are entitled to be able
Speaker 10: to have affordable homes.
Speaker 3: And doors allows them to get the money to buy
Speaker 3: a home. And everybody knows the retirement and when you
Speaker 3: own a home, you have a better retirement than if
Speaker 3: you don't.
Speaker 10: That is true. And the New Zealand Labor governmentiated this
Speaker 10: policy that paid it up in this proposal.
Speaker 3: New Zealand Labor government would never be something I'd want
Speaker 3: to follow.
Speaker 10: Well, they are, and it drove up house prizes and
Speaker 10: made houses less if.
Speaker 3: They don't have the system we have here.
Speaker 1: And you know that anyway, So there are going to
Speaker 1: be people that will turn around and say super scared
Speaker 1: versus many scare, and both of you are going to say,
Speaker 1: here's the evidence for it. Do you think that, I mean,
Speaker 1: you've talked about this for a few minuts, right it
Speaker 1: seems that the parties only decided to start rallying around
Speaker 1: it with two days to go. Do you think that
Speaker 1: that people are aware of the We know certainly on
Speaker 1: these pollings people have their view when it comes to
Speaker 1: the offering of medicare, But are people aware of the superstars.
Speaker 3: They're starting to become aware and as you say, two
Speaker 3: days to go every both matters. So if I had
Speaker 3: my brothers, of course I would have been talking about it.
Speaker 1: You would have had the TV ads rippen in. All right,
Speaker 1: So I'll let you both give a final message in
Speaker 1: a second right on the behalf. But just give me
Speaker 1: the thirty second version of here one nation and one
Speaker 1: nation preferences. Okay, Linda, Again, whether they outperform what they
Speaker 1: did last time or not, that's one of the questions
Speaker 1: we only know by having a national election. Thankfully there's
Speaker 1: one on Saturday. But again the suggestion, phil Kourry, is
Speaker 1: that there's some people in Labor worry that there is
Speaker 1: going to be some changes in some of these outer
Speaker 1: suburban seats that are going to go to One Nation,
Speaker 1: and Pauline's being very clear to say you don't preference
Speaker 1: the Labor Party, your preference the Libs.
Speaker 10: Look, I definitely think it is the case that One
Speaker 10: Nation have been clear that a vote for One Nation
Speaker 10: is a vote for Peter Dutton as the Prime Minister.
Speaker 10: James as Green said this on television multiple times, and
Speaker 10: indeed the Liberals under Peter Dutton have voted for Pauline
Speaker 10: Hanson with her ninety three percent of the time. So really,
Speaker 10: if you're a former labor voter thinking about voting for
Speaker 10: one nation, you do risk if you vote for one
Speaker 10: nation electing a liberal government, and if that's not what
Speaker 10: you want, you shouldn't be placing you vote with one nation.
Speaker 10: I think one nation traditionally does poll more highly than
Speaker 10: we tend to see an election. It will be interesting
Speaker 10: to see where they go. But a vote for one
Speaker 10: nation is a vote for Peter Dutton.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm going to give you both like thirty
Speaker 1: seconds at the end here, so you're stealing time from yourself.
Speaker 1: What's your message to people who do vote minor party?
Speaker 1: What they have to do with number two?
Speaker 3: To the Liberal Party and the freedom parties to categorize them,
Speaker 3: are giving their preferences to the Liberal Party, and the
Speaker 3: Liberal Party offers stability, It offers a defense, a proper
Speaker 3: defense policy in the light of the threats from both
Speaker 3: China and Russia. It offers instant lessening of the pressures
Speaker 3: for costs of living prices, and it offers good home
Speaker 3: ownership prospects.
Speaker 1: All right, well, there's four seconds left, which means not
Speaker 1: enough time for a final pitch, But have a look
Speaker 1: at this ones in red, ones in blue. All right,
Speaker 1: I appreciate everything pre election. Look forward to the chats
Speaker 1: post selection with both of you. Enjoy If that's the
Speaker 1: why the next few days. Thank you lady, still appreciate
Speaker 1: it all right after the break, the one the name
Speaker 1: Megan Kelly on Sky News next.
Speaker 15: Thanks for watching idiots our favorite time of the wait
Speaker 15: to talk to about favorite person in the world, none
Speaker 15: other than the wonderful Megan Kelly in the United States.
Speaker 1: Now, why is Michelle Obama winging? She seems to always
Speaker 1: be winging? Why are thing so hard for her? Right now?
Speaker 2: I know? I mean because when you're thinking of victims
Speaker 2: of this awful world, you think of Michelle Obama and
Speaker 2: how terrible we've all been to her. This woman is
Speaker 2: a one woman destitution derby. Every time we check in
Speaker 2: on her at her podcast, she is feeling sorry for herself.
Speaker 2: She is criticizing Barack Obama for this country. She never
Speaker 2: has a positive word to say about anything. And the
Speaker 2: latest example was when she went on this other guy's podcast,
Speaker 2: Jay Shetty. She goes and says down with him and
Speaker 2: he asks her what are you afraid of? And she goes.
Speaker 2: She starts off by saying, well, it's not. My fears
Speaker 2: aren't for me, you know, I think about the streets.
Speaker 2: My fears aren't for me.
Speaker 16: Well, in this current climate, for me, it's you know,
Speaker 16: what's happening to immigrants.
Speaker 2: I mean, I travel in a four car motorcade. After all,
Speaker 2: I'm Michelle Obama. She actually says this, and then she says,
Speaker 2: but you know, I worry for my girls because you know,
Speaker 2: not that much because they are sort of recognizable, but
Speaker 2: I'm worried about them.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 16: So it's it's not the fear for myself anymore. I
Speaker 16: drive around in a four car motorcade with a police escort.
Speaker 16: I'm Michelle Obama. I do still worry about my daughters
Speaker 16: in the world, even though they are somewhat recognizable.
Speaker 2: And then she goes and then you're like, why what's
Speaker 2: going to happen to her girls if they're not recognizable,
Speaker 2: And she goes on a diatribe about the arrests that
Speaker 2: we're making of illegal immigrants and that now we all
Speaker 2: have to live in fear people of color because it's
Speaker 2: a racist Republican party that's running America now that people
Speaker 2: of color, I guess have to live in fear because
Speaker 2: we're all a bunch of racists who made her a
Speaker 2: billionaire and elected her husband president twice. But we're so racist,
Speaker 2: you see, we could just grab any random person of
Speaker 2: color in the street and send them off to El Salvador.
Speaker 16: Now that we have leadership that is sort of indiscriminately
Speaker 16: determining who belongs and who.
Speaker 2: Doesn't American citizen brown, You're done, you know, like that's
Speaker 2: what we're looking for, without any context to the fact
Speaker 2: that all that has happened is they've rounded up illegal
Speaker 2: immigrants and sent them to El Salvador who have already
Speaker 2: been deported and not American citizens. Some the media has
Speaker 2: claimed are American citizens, but they're not no American citizens anyway.
Speaker 2: It's just been so ridiculou and the fact that she
Speaker 2: would try to parlay this into like, I'm so scared
Speaker 2: but also super important, but also, my daughters are brown,
Speaker 2: so they're also potential victims because everyone hates brown people,
Speaker 2: unless they could identify them as as an Obama, in
Speaker 2: which case we'd be fine because everyone loves us. But
Speaker 2: as you can watch the wheels calculate in a way
Speaker 2: that just confirms everything you believed about this woman.
Speaker 1: Now, did you say you're all might rightchel Matda? That
Speaker 1: crisy super mega lifty. She's about to go back into
Speaker 1: the woods because she's done her time. She's done one
Speaker 1: hundred dies, the first hundred dies of the Trump presidency.
Speaker 1: And she says that it's okay, everyone relaxed. Yes, he's
Speaker 1: still president, but democracy is still winning.
Speaker 14: The president is very upset that the polls show that
Speaker 14: the country does not like him, the country really really
Speaker 14: does not like him, and sees his first hundred days
Speaker 14: as a disaster he has had in public opinion terms.
Speaker 14: He has had the most disastrous first hundred days of
Speaker 14: any president since the dawn of modern polling. No president
Speaker 14: has ever botched the first hundred days more badly than
Speaker 14: Donald Trump has botched it.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, so thirty million dollars a year I
Speaker 2: guess maybe they knocked it down to twenty five once
Speaker 2: everybody got fired from the Joy Read Show and she took.
Speaker 15: Us at whatever.
Speaker 2: The point is, she's making gobs of money and working
Speaker 2: one day a week, and she talked about herself going
Speaker 2: to five days in the first one hundred days of
Speaker 2: the Trump presidency, like she was literally going to the
Speaker 2: front lines of a rack. We should be super impressed
Speaker 2: with her courage, her sacrifice, the risk taking, the stress
Speaker 2: she's putting herself through. Again, it's like Michelle Obama's situation.
Speaker 2: We don't care, no one feels sorry for you. Shut
Speaker 2: up and do your stupid job where you sit in
Speaker 2: your air conditioned studio with people running out to powder
Speaker 2: your face. And I mean, I guess somebody has done
Speaker 2: on that hair. It's unclear, but they'd have to be
Speaker 2: insisting on it, wouldn't they. In any event, the same
Speaker 2: outfit every night. We know absolutely no effort is made
Speaker 2: to look good or polished, but in any event, she
Speaker 2: treats it like I mean, honestly, she is risking her
Speaker 2: life to save people on a battlefield, and all she's
Speaker 2: doing is nasty, left wing, non fact based commentary. And
Speaker 2: she does think that that's laudable. She thinks that the
Speaker 2: press is this champion of the people and that Trump
Speaker 2: is very wrong to demonize them as enemy of the people,
Speaker 2: and that they're, you know, the last bastion of democracy,
Speaker 2: saving us from a tyrant who means to unleash these
Speaker 2: this sort of autocratic means of being president upon us
Speaker 2: and that she's their leader. I think she thinks that's
Speaker 2: why it's so important. It's because it makes her important.
Speaker 2: Nowithstanding the fact that her ratings are in the toilet
Speaker 2: as are pretty much all of MSNBC and CNN. The
Speaker 2: only cable chip and putting any numbers on the board
Speaker 2: right now is Fox. Because of Trump obviously, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love it. The fight is so vital. It's the
Speaker 1: future of our country. But I'm going to be somewhere
Speaker 1: else for the next.
Speaker 2: Three and I'll be in one of my many homes.
Speaker 1: Now forgive me for saying, but you have such a
Speaker 1: wonderful glow about you as always you're one of the
Speaker 1: raisins wearing nighth Day. But I think you've got something
Speaker 1: spatial about you? Is it because you're an astronaut?
Speaker 2: Now? I mean, I still feel uncomfortable calling myself an astronaut.
Speaker 2: I only know that others call me that because I've
Speaker 2: been so now I'm allowed to talk about it. I've
Speaker 2: been all right. I was told explicitly by Gail King,
Speaker 2: who went on that vanity project called the Blue Origin Flight,
Speaker 2: that you're not allowed to criticize her unless you've been
Speaker 2: Have you been? Have you Let's just say I've been.
Speaker 1: In a world where anyone with big money or big
Speaker 1: breasts can reach the stars. Three women, one.
Speaker 2: They all find me very inspiration.
Speaker 1: Yes, limited training, right left, right left, their dream to
Speaker 1: inspire humanity or at least grab a few good selfies.
Speaker 1: That's what we call a deep tase. You can say
Speaker 1: it all on Making Show on Friday. We'll make sure
Speaker 1: we'll let it up on all of our socials. We
Speaker 1: love you, Dolla. We'll see you next week.
Speaker 2: See you, Paul,