WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 29 May

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<v Speaker 1>Ls.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the Late Debase. Good evening and welcome to

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<v Speaker 2>the show.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Caleb Bond with Liz Storer and Joe Hildebrand.

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<v Speaker 2>Well bad news.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm afraid to tell you the prices of electric cars

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<v Speaker 3>have plummeted because people don't want to buy them. Old

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<v Speaker 3>bull mate that. Later in the show, Immigration Minister Andrew

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<v Speaker 3>Giles has been caught out fibbing again about child rapists

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<v Speaker 3>and other foreign criminals who were released due to a

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<v Speaker 3>decision he made. We'll get into that in the papers,

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<v Speaker 3>and a man who decided to live his life as

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<v Speaker 3>a border collie says it was all a mistake.

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<v Speaker 2>But first, it doesn't matter where you go.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, the opening of an envelope school assembly, even when

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<v Speaker 3>you get on the skybus to leave the airport in Melbourne,

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<v Speaker 3>you get either a welcome to country or.

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<v Speaker 2>An acknowledgment of country.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think we're all sick of going along to

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<v Speaker 3>some sort of event and you know, the first person

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<v Speaker 3>gets up, the MC introduces whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 2>And they give an acknowledgement of country.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, sure we did it to open the event,

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<v Speaker 3>and then every subsequent speaker gets up and does it again.

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<v Speaker 3>It has become a joke, but I didn't know it

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<v Speaker 3>had become this much of a joke.

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<v Speaker 2>One fella from Brisbane.

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<v Speaker 3>Has gone online and said he was recently went to

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<v Speaker 3>a job interview. Now, there were five people in this room,

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<v Speaker 3>was a panel interview. He was going for a customer

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<v Speaker 3>service job at an insurance company, and the interviewer gave

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<v Speaker 3>what he calls a welcome to country. Now we don't

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<v Speaker 3>know whether the interviewer was Aboriginal, in which case it

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<v Speaker 3>would be a welcome to country. Otherwise, officially it's called

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<v Speaker 3>an acknowledgment of country. But they felt the need in

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<v Speaker 3>front of these five people going for the job to

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<v Speaker 3>give a welcome and or acknowledgment of country. This fella

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<v Speaker 3>said that he took it upon himself, this bloke, to

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<v Speaker 3>do a welcome to country. He described the experiences weird

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<v Speaker 3>and unnecessary. He said, I wanted to get others opinions

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<v Speaker 3>on this, as I thought it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Peak Australian corporate culture. Well you can say that again.

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<v Speaker 3>At the time I didn't give it a second thought,

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<v Speaker 3>but in retrospect.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty weird and unnecessary.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, what else is it going to be listening

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<v Speaker 3>you'll have nights like that.

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<v Speaker 2>You go down to the letterbox.

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<v Speaker 3>And you open the letterbox and you'll have to give

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<v Speaker 3>an acknowledgment of country before you pull the mail out,

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<v Speaker 3>and you go to the supermarket and there'll be someone

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<v Speaker 3>standing at the front of coals when you walk in

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<v Speaker 3>the front door to acknowledge the country that you're seriously

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<v Speaker 3>a job interview.

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<v Speaker 1>A job into view.

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<v Speaker 4>I would have been standing to my feet being like, Nah, sorry,

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<v Speaker 4>guys are clearly not a good fit for this place.

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<v Speaker 1>All the best with that jog on.

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<v Speaker 4>Remember when Marshall Langton said to us that if the

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<v Speaker 4>no vote got up last year, welcome to Country would

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<v Speaker 4>be no more because everyone would be too embarrassed to

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<v Speaker 4>ask an Indigenous.

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<v Speaker 1>Person to do one.

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<v Speaker 4>And even if they did have the tamerity, she said,

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<v Speaker 4>even if they did have the tamera to ask an

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<v Speaker 4>Indigenous person to do a Welcome to.

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<v Speaker 1>Country, the answer would be no.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, don't threaten us with a good time, Marsha Langton,

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<v Speaker 4>and then don't deliver on it, because we see this

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<v Speaker 4>now blissfully going on as if nothing happened, as if

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<v Speaker 4>the vast majority of Australia didn't vote last year to

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<v Speaker 4>be like yeah. To be quite frank, we're really sick

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<v Speaker 4>of this. I was interested in the poll in the

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<v Speaker 4>Courier Mail today which simply asked do you think that

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome to Country is being overused? Now? Ninety eight percent

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<v Speaker 4>voted yes, and at the time that I voted, there

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<v Speaker 4>was over ten thousand, one hundred votes, so it's.

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<v Speaker 1>A pretty big poll.

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<v Speaker 4>This guy who went to this interview is also quoted

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<v Speaker 4>as saying, I understand companies doing these for big, important

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<v Speaker 4>meetings with higher ups, but at a job interview, it

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<v Speaker 4>just felt pointless. Go with your gut, mate, because it

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<v Speaker 4>is pointless in any respect. Joe, how do you How

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<v Speaker 4>do you like Welcome to Country?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you well?

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<v Speaker 5>I'd like to begin by acknowledging the or a nation

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<v Speaker 5>and the gadical people and whose lands we gather this evening.

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<v Speaker 5>My concern, My concern is that it looks it he's

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<v Speaker 5>getting more and more ubiquous. I was a big support

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<v Speaker 5>of the voice, as you know, and and I would

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<v Speaker 5>go often when I was on my way here, I'd

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<v Speaker 5>do what any real man does on his way to

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<v Speaker 5>a late night Sky news show and went to b W.

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<v Speaker 6>Just to look at the toy section.

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<v Speaker 5>And I would hear and you would hear it actually

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<v Speaker 5>played on a tape on repeating. I'm kind of thinking, amazing,

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<v Speaker 5>who was that actually respecting? Like, who was that actually

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<v Speaker 5>paying respects to like just like literally literally phoning it in,

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<v Speaker 5>so phoning it in that you're not even phoning it

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<v Speaker 5>in yourself. It's a recorded message that is phoning it in.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's sort of my concern, and so any sort

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<v Speaker 5>of everywhere. Another thing I did didn't realize there was

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<v Speaker 5>an acknowledgment of Country on the opening of my new

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<v Speaker 5>podcast on Nova, which is the real story with Joe Hilderbrant.

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<v Speaker 6>But that how but that is how I even felt like.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not opposed to it in any way whatsoever, but

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<v Speaker 5>that's how sort of baked in it is to everything.

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<v Speaker 5>And my concern is not necessarily that it's there. My

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<v Speaker 5>concern is, well, all right, will you talk the talk,

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<v Speaker 5>but what are you actually doing about it?

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<v Speaker 6>And I kind of think, well, you know, at.

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<v Speaker 5>All these corporate events, you know, you go to my

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<v Speaker 5>skyscraper and the middle of the Sydney CBD, and so

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<v Speaker 5>we'd like to acknowledge.

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<v Speaker 6>The traditional owners. Well, all right, then give it back to.

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<v Speaker 2>The land back that you I or the.

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<v Speaker 5>Law firm with the billions of dollars in real estate,

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<v Speaker 5>like you could actually do something they never do, of course.

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<v Speaker 3>But even like so on the weekend, I like to

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<v Speaker 3>have a punt and you have a listen to tab

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<v Speaker 3>Radio or Sky Sports Radio as it is here in Sydney,

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<v Speaker 3>and even then they're playing these messages over and over

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<v Speaker 3>throughout the day. We'd like to acknowledge the land from

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<v Speaker 3>which we broadcast today. On and on it goes.

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<v Speaker 2>Few people know.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that the welcome to country was actually invented

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<v Speaker 3>by Ernie Dingo because there was an event where some

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<v Speaker 3>people were coming from some Pacific nations I believe to

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<v Speaker 3>Australia and.

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<v Speaker 1>They felt uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 3>They felt uncomfortable coming to Australia to do this without

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<v Speaker 3>being welcomed to the land because that was custom back

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<v Speaker 3>home and they didn't want to come on to someone

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<v Speaker 3>else's land without being welcomed.

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<v Speaker 2>So Ernie didn't go on a number.

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<v Speaker 3>Of others came up with the first ceremony that was

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<v Speaker 3>a welcomed country and it's just sort of taken on

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<v Speaker 3>another life ever since. And I think part of the

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<v Speaker 3>problem now is that because it is so overdone. It's

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<v Speaker 3>played on bloody Sky sports radio, it's played in big

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<v Speaker 3>w everyone who gets up to speak says it. It's

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<v Speaker 3>even done at job interviews that it's lost all meaning.

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<v Speaker 3>Like if you go by sporting it and they have

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<v Speaker 3>a real welcome to country with a smoking ceremony whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, once in a blue moon, that's fine, but

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<v Speaker 3>it happens so often now that everyone just rolls their

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<v Speaker 3>eyes and groans.

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<v Speaker 6>It literally means different things.

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<v Speaker 5>So there's a welcome to country in which indigenous traits

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<v Speaker 5>and actually comes and says a few words, and that

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<v Speaker 5>is very very informal, and a lot of those it's

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<v Speaker 5>also very lucrative proper businesses. They don't know as much

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<v Speaker 5>as I'm getting a lot of these events. They'll come

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<v Speaker 5>up and speak and say really like, they're really good speakers.

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<v Speaker 5>They're funny, they tell really good stories and everything, heaps

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<v Speaker 5>of jokes.

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<v Speaker 6>They're really good. You should listen to them.

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<v Speaker 5>The more the more sort of tokenistic sort of right

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<v Speaker 5>of passage one, the sort of hairshirt one is that

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<v Speaker 5>I acknowledge the traditional owners of the lands of which

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<v Speaker 5>we've met, And that is the one that just constantly

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<v Speaker 5>gets put out there on repeat, and that is not

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<v Speaker 5>actually done by traditional owners or traditional Indigenous people at all.

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<v Speaker 5>So again I think it's just this. I think the

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<v Speaker 5>intentions are kind of good, but I think it is

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<v Speaker 5>done firstly out of a kind of fear of saying

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<v Speaker 5>the wrong thing and wanting to make sure that you're

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<v Speaker 5>ticking all the boke boxes and crossing all the t's

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<v Speaker 5>and dotting all the i's, but also people sort of

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<v Speaker 5>thinking that, you know, feel feeling better about themselves just

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<v Speaker 5>because they've said a few words without doing probably actuation

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<v Speaker 5>understand the meaning. And so again I would much prefer

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<v Speaker 5>instead of having a bunch of you know, non indigenous

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<v Speaker 5>people all in a room acknowledging that they're on Indigenous

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<v Speaker 5>land and there's no one sort of there to kind

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<v Speaker 5>of acknowledge it too. Half the time because it's some

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<v Speaker 5>corporate gig like go out there give money to like

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<v Speaker 5>you know Australian you know, Literacy and Numeracy Foundation, or

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<v Speaker 5>you know any number of the indigenous mentoring.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually doing somebody that's right, put.

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<v Speaker 5>Your money where your mouth is. That all these amazing

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<v Speaker 5>charities I've done stuff with. Fed Holes is another one

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<v Speaker 5>who overwhelmingly work with indigenous people just take that million

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<v Speaker 5>bucks and slap it on the table and they can

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<v Speaker 5>go out and do wonders with it instead of just

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<v Speaker 5>sort of paying lip service to it all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>I know it would make sense. Would let's move on

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<v Speaker 3>to other things now?

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<v Speaker 2>We've been talking about direction.

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<v Speaker 3>Ninety nine for the last couple of days, and I

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<v Speaker 3>was driving into work this evening, I thought, ah, I

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<v Speaker 3>know what this reminds.

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<v Speaker 2>Me of.

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<v Speaker 5>Good idea only nine.

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<v Speaker 3>Except in this case, of course, it wasn't a good

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<v Speaker 3>idea ninety nine. This is exactly bad idea ninety nine.

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<v Speaker 2>We've had another.

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<v Speaker 3>Case of one of these people who had their potential

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<v Speaker 3>deportation overturned by the Administrative Appeals Tribunal.

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<v Speaker 2>In this case a Sudanese migrant.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, he'd lived overseas for twenty years before he.

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<v Speaker 2>Came to Australia.

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<v Speaker 3>But then he lived in Australia for fifteen years, and

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<v Speaker 3>when he went to the AAT to claim that he

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<v Speaker 3>should be allowed to stay here.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, well, I'm actually Aboriginal.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, yes, this man did not live in Australia for

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<v Speaker 3>twenty years. He is a migrant to this country. He

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<v Speaker 3>came over here and hooked up with an Aboriginal woman.

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<v Speaker 2>He was with her for ten years. He was also

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<v Speaker 2>convicted of bashing.

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<v Speaker 3>Her by the way he had three kids with her,

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<v Speaker 3>amongst other crimes that he had committed. But when he

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<v Speaker 3>goes off to the AAT, he says, I self, I

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<v Speaker 3>had and identify sorry as an Aboriginal person and consider

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<v Speaker 3>Australia to be my country.

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<v Speaker 2>And to give some.

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<v Speaker 3>Weight to this, he says that he's participated in some

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<v Speaker 3>smoking ceremonies, he's done Aboriginal art, he's learned how to

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<v Speaker 3>play the didgerido, and for that reason he is Aboriginal

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<v Speaker 3>and we cannot remove him from this country because of course,

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<v Speaker 3>Direction ninety nine said that if a migrant had a

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<v Speaker 3>long standing connection to the country, they should be allowed

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<v Speaker 3>to stay here. But it's plainly obvious to anyone that

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<v Speaker 3>this rule is wrong. It is not working. It's allowing

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<v Speaker 3>criminals who are not from this country to remain here. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>Clara O'Neil was grilled about this on Sunrise this morning

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<v Speaker 3>and went about as well as you'd expect.

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<v Speaker 7>One rape and disabled fourteen year old and a sixteen

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<v Speaker 7>year old one raped a child between the age of

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<v Speaker 7>ten and fourteen and one raped eight times, forty eight

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<v Speaker 7>counts of sexual assault on twenty five women and a teen.

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<v Speaker 7>The judge said he had no remorse. That's what we're

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<v Speaker 7>dealing with. And you're still arguing support for the minister.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that.

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<v Speaker 8>Washes Look, Matt, I completely understand the concern that you

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<v Speaker 8>have about these and the crimes that you've listed there

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<v Speaker 8>are absolutely horrendous and no member of Parliament and no

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<v Speaker 8>member of the government is going to disagree with that.

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<v Speaker 2>And it got even better.

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<v Speaker 8>Actually, Minister Giles has stepped in here. He's taking action

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<v Speaker 8>as a good minister would do. He's doing the right thing.

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<v Speaker 8>He's stepped in at the right moment.

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<v Speaker 1>He stepped in at the right moment.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, A lot of people would dispute that he put

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<v Speaker 7>in this direction, this ministerial direction last January. Then they

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<v Speaker 7>use the laws, this direction that was put in by

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<v Speaker 7>your government to stay in this country. So do you

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<v Speaker 7>think it's maybe too late that Andrew Giles is acting now?

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<v Speaker 1>I just reiterate what Minister Giles has said yesterday. Those

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<v Speaker 1>visus were.

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<v Speaker 8>Canceled by the part that government plays in this. An

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<v Speaker 8>independent tribunal overturned those decisions.

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<v Speaker 2>How did she say that with a straight face?

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<v Speaker 3>Andrew Giles has just come through at the right minute

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<v Speaker 3>to make all this.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, when they're on the first clip, she's saying these

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<v Speaker 4>are atrocious crimes. You know, they're indefensible, and then you

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<v Speaker 4>went on to defend him. Of course the government wants

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<v Speaker 4>to say, oh, it's an independent tribunal, washing our hands

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<v Speaker 4>of this. They are acting on the rules that you

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<v Speaker 4>made in your jolly direction ninety nine.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how they're making.

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<v Speaker 4>The decisions to overturn said cancelations. So you don't just

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<v Speaker 4>get to kick the can down the road and say, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>we're blaming it on the tribunal.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's come out.

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<v Speaker 4>Today and Charles or was it yesterday announced the review.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so we're going to have a review.

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<v Speaker 4>This tribunal is going to be reviewed, and there's going

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<v Speaker 4>to be yes.

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<v Speaker 1>What he said.

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<v Speaker 4>He said that the members of this new review tribunal

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<v Speaker 4>were going to use common sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's word, not mine.

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<v Speaker 4>Now they're going to be using common sense and the

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<v Speaker 4>safety of the community is going to be paramount, not

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<v Speaker 4>their ties to the country. The safety of the community.

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<v Speaker 4>You mean to tell me that they haven't been using

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<v Speaker 4>common sense and that the safety of the community hasn't

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<v Speaker 4>been paramount up to this point. Yes, that's exactly what

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<v Speaker 4>he's saying, and it's thanks to his direction ninety nine.

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<v Speaker 5>Look, I just find this so staggering. And I know

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<v Speaker 5>people often accuse me of defending the in defense of

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<v Speaker 5>all when it comes to the labor. Don't do it

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<v Speaker 5>this time, Joe, I got nothing.

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<v Speaker 6>I got nothing, Thank goodness.

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<v Speaker 5>I was actually believe it or not, I was actually

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<v Speaker 5>with our esteem colleague James Morrow of Outsiders on Sundays

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<v Speaker 5>on Sky. And of course we both also work for

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<v Speaker 5>the Daily Telegraph and we're doing anything on Daily Telegraph,

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<v Speaker 5>a video for the Daily Telegraph, and I was saying

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<v Speaker 5>this exact same, Why on earth did they ever have

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<v Speaker 5>this thing in section ninety nine saying that ties to

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<v Speaker 5>Australia had to be taken into consideration without simply saying,

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<v Speaker 5>if you've abused someone, if you've bashed a woman, if

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<v Speaker 5>you've committed rape or sexual assault, you've killed someone or

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<v Speaker 5>as solid someone, doesn't matter who you identify as. It

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't matter how much you go to work and pay

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<v Speaker 5>your taxes and come home and mow the law, and

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<v Speaker 5>you're gone you're out and make it clear and believe

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<v Speaker 5>it or not. Just a couple of hours later. That

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<v Speaker 5>is exactly what the government has done. And thank Christ

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<v Speaker 5>because it has been so long in coming. And how

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<v Speaker 5>you could have this kind of overarching thing. If they've

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<v Speaker 5>got ties to the community, then that should be emphasized

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<v Speaker 5>and that should be able to they should be able

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<v Speaker 5>to stay without having a very an equally clear carve

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<v Speaker 5>out like they said, oh you know things like do

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<v Speaker 5>these things like you know, if they've killed someone that

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<v Speaker 5>should be taken into consideration, or you think and of

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<v Speaker 5>course you've got this thing saying well, no, their ties

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<v Speaker 5>to the country you have to bear. And they are

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<v Speaker 5>doing now, of course what they should.

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<v Speaker 6>Have done long ago.

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<v Speaker 5>Now I doubt very much was Andrew Giles who came

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<v Speaker 5>up with this all on his own. Some I think

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<v Speaker 5>Claire O'Neil, obviously has to publicly defend him, would be

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<v Speaker 5>privately seething because she has to eat the proverbial sandwich

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<v Speaker 5>every time he comes out and stuffs up, and she

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<v Speaker 5>has to go and clean up the mess. I dare

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<v Speaker 5>say the Prime Minister would have either said do this

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<v Speaker 5>or told them to fix it. And this is the

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<v Speaker 5>fix they've come up with, so good on albow for that.

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<v Speaker 5>But again the idea that you know, common sense or

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<v Speaker 5>the safety of the community was not paramount before this

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<v Speaker 5>came along just shows I think how completely incompetent, out

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<v Speaker 5>of his depth Andrew Giles is.

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<v Speaker 6>And again he complains about the.

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<v Speaker 5>Fact that the that the government has canceled these visas

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<v Speaker 5>and then the administrative appeals tribunals overturned them. Well, firstly,

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<v Speaker 5>the person, the head the Chief Commission of the Administrative

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<v Speaker 5>Appeals Tribune that actually beld the cat on this is

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<v Speaker 5>a former labor left colleague of Andrew Giles, a former

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<v Speaker 5>Speaker of the House Protection who said I have to

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<v Speaker 5>do this because this is what this directive clearly states

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<v Speaker 5>exactly right.

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<v Speaker 6>So there's that as well.

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<v Speaker 5>But not only that, he says, oh, but I canceled

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<v Speaker 5>the visas and then this independent tribunal that I've got

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<v Speaker 5>no control over then overturn my cancelation. He gave them

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<v Speaker 5>the power to overturn that cancelation. He clearly made it

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<v Speaker 5>explicitly in office at the heads of no one, it seems,

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<v Speaker 5>made it easier for them to overturn cancelation of visas

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<v Speaker 5>because anyone can plea. So again there's a level of

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<v Speaker 5>kind of immorality in terms of allowing these things. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>we were just talking about Indigenous people and paying respects

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<v Speaker 5>to them. What says paying respects to Indigenous people more

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<v Speaker 5>than allowing an Indigenous woman to be bashed by a

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<v Speaker 5>Pseudanese immigrant claiming to be Indigenous and having him still

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<v Speaker 5>able to stay in the country in.

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<v Speaker 6>The orbit of his victim, one of his at least

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<v Speaker 6>they said it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it is knife crime, cast.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a particular, it's a particular it's a particular, dark

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<v Speaker 5>irony that you would have an Administry of Decisions Try

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<v Speaker 5>and ad Ministry Appeals tribunal saying oh, you know, we

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<v Speaker 5>have to respect Indigenous people by giving this non Indigenous

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<v Speaker 5>person the right to stay in Australia so he can

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<v Speaker 5>continue to abuse his Indigenous partner. I mean, what kind

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<v Speaker 5>of Dantean hell are we living in where that actually

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<v Speaker 5>seems like a common sense decision by a quasi judicial body,

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<v Speaker 5>and where the government means it can.

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<v Speaker 4>Be a criminal immigrant in this country, but as long

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<v Speaker 4>as you have strong.

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<v Speaker 1>Enough ties, it's fine.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you've maybe had a kid here, or you've

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<v Speaker 4>married someone here.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well you've.

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<v Speaker 4>Got ties, so you get to stay and it's all

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<v Speaker 4>just through to the keeper.

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<v Speaker 1>Never you mind.

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<v Speaker 4>He's Giles today, straight face, telling us I'm on the job.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to fix it.

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<v Speaker 7>I will be updating Ministerial Direction ninety nine, as the Prime.

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<v Speaker 2>Minister has just said order.

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<v Speaker 1>The new direction will order that.

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<v Speaker 4>All members of the at will adopt a common sense

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<v Speaker 4>approach to visa decision. Oh well, thank god, some common

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<v Speaker 4>sense that is new for you and your government, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 4>We can't wait for this new ubed tribunal. It can't

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<v Speaker 4>come fast enough.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's go to Parramatta.

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<v Speaker 4>Now we're they're thinking, oh, there's a lot of e

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<v Speaker 4>bikes on the road and these are getting.

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<v Speaker 1>Dodger and dodger.

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<v Speaker 4>These are motorized boat bikes, right, you see them.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all around boats motivating.

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<v Speaker 4>But they're like low powered motorbikes basically. I think they're

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<v Speaker 4>like what twenty five CC's. But a lot of people

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<v Speaker 4>who do deliver rou uber eats they get these bikes

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<v Speaker 4>and that's how they get around. That's how they earn

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<v Speaker 4>a buck delivering you your food. Well, they've decided it's

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<v Speaker 4>getting unsafe because there's no license for these people getting

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<v Speaker 4>around on these putt put bikes. And here's another opportunity

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<v Speaker 4>for us to regulate.

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<v Speaker 1>Regulate.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't even jump on an e bike anymore, says

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<v Speaker 4>the City of Paramatta.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have to get a license.

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<v Speaker 3>So what they're saying is I know that there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of Indian and other ethnicities getting around on these

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<v Speaker 3>e bucks making money.

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<v Speaker 2>Because well that's what they've seen. They literally said it.

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<v Speaker 3>If you don't read the story online, they.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually specific I wasn't going.

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<v Speaker 3>To go to that they specifically, they specifically point out Indians.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh so it would be different if it were white

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<v Speaker 4>people on these.

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<v Speaker 3>What they're saying is they have foreign licenses. They don't

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<v Speaker 3>have Australian licenses. Therefore they don't understand the Australian road rules,

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<v Speaker 3>so they don't know how to ride a bike on

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<v Speaker 3>Australian roads. Absolute garbage, Like I'm sorry if you don't

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<v Speaker 3>know how to ride a bike of any persuade, and

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<v Speaker 3>you probably didn't get taught very well as a child.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it matters whether you are black, white, brindle,

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<v Speaker 3>whether you came here from India or Pakistan or Africa

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<v Speaker 3>or anywhere else on the face of the planet. You

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<v Speaker 3>can ride a bike just as badly as anyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Who was born here.

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<v Speaker 3>Why do we want to take away all these freedoms? Because,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, the great thing about a bike, and the

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<v Speaker 3>people say they should be registered because people run red

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<v Speaker 3>lights on bikes, and they should have speed cameras because

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<v Speaker 3>people get upset motors, Oh my god. But the great

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<v Speaker 3>freedom of a bike is that you don't have to

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<v Speaker 3>obey the rules.

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<v Speaker 2>You can evade the rules.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you take that away from cycling, watch the

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<v Speaker 3>point of cycling.

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<v Speaker 5>Caleb Bond, the world's only conservative pro cyclist.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want the bike lay, I don't want the

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<v Speaker 3>bike lines.

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<v Speaker 5>I just want to be able to ride on people's rooftops. Firstly,

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<v Speaker 5>people say the Indians are not as good drivers as Australia,

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<v Speaker 5>don't know how to drive. They are ten times better

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<v Speaker 5>than Australian drivers. I have been driving around in you

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<v Speaker 5>Deli and the.

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<v Speaker 6>Drivers do Honestly.

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<v Speaker 5>There is a reason the road toll there is approximately

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<v Speaker 5>one hundred and forty thousand a year.

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<v Speaker 6>But still the fact that they get anywhere all the

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<v Speaker 6>time incredible. It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 5>I've seen them, and it's just it's like this sort

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<v Speaker 5>of hive mind. They turn a two lane road that

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<v Speaker 5>was like meant to be two lanes each way, I thought,

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<v Speaker 5>and it turns into a seven lane road with three

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<v Speaker 5>lanes squeezed into the two lanes one way, three lanes

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<v Speaker 5>squeezed into two lanes the other way, and then one

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<v Speaker 5>lane right in the middle, where people are driving straight

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<v Speaker 5>at one another and then dodging each other at the

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<v Speaker 5>last minute in this kind of crazy took took game

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<v Speaker 5>of chicken.

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<v Speaker 6>If you're via.

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<v Speaker 5>One centimeter to the rest, and never check your rearview mirrors.

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<v Speaker 5>If you do, you're dead already because you can't afford

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<v Speaker 5>to take your eyes one.

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<v Speaker 1>Your mate're some respect?

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<v Speaker 6>Give an e bike right, some respect? Can we be

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<v Speaker 6>watching and learning?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, because they say to a danger to people

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<v Speaker 3>on the foot.

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<v Speaker 6>Little ladies, not too many of them, but let's be honest.

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<v Speaker 3>There are talk about it, but what about people who

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<v Speaker 3>get around on those mobility and they can be just

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<v Speaker 3>as much of a menace as anyone on an e bike.

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<v Speaker 2>You're on a.

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<v Speaker 3>Motorized bike or whatever it might be, you're trundling down

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<v Speaker 3>the footpath you're just as prone to knock someone over.

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<v Speaker 3>So do we then say that you need to have

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<v Speaker 3>a license to get on a mobility scooter? Do we

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<v Speaker 3>say that kids need licenses to get a bike? They'll

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<v Speaker 3>need a license to get an electric scooter to ride

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<v Speaker 3>around his kid? Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Where does this stuff?

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<v Speaker 4>In?

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<v Speaker 5>An e bike and a mobility scooter going head to

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<v Speaker 5>head in Harris Park.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to see drag races.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, can we get drag races of mobility scooters.

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<v Speaker 6>Bike library as we speak.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll even put up a small purse for a prize

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<v Speaker 3>to make it happen if someone can organize it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'll tell you who you.

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<v Speaker 3>Wouldn't want to see in a drag that's an electric

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<v Speaker 3>vehicle right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, so I should have bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Some of them are pretty fast, particularly the Tesla's. But

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<v Speaker 3>the big problem with electric vehicles, of course, is they

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<v Speaker 3>don't make any noise. I mean they want to drag race,

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<v Speaker 3>you want lots and lots of noise. And I'm certainly

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<v Speaker 3>not the only one who seems to have a problem

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<v Speaker 3>with electric vehicles. Because the market has really softened. People

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<v Speaker 3>aren't They're not buying them in the same numbers that

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<v Speaker 3>they were because of course they've worked out that it's

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<v Speaker 3>all a bit of a sham. And one of the

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<v Speaker 3>great shams of it all now is that there's no

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<v Speaker 3>resale value in these things.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>There are two reasons for that. One is that the

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<v Speaker 3>price of new electric vehicles keeps going through the floor

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<v Speaker 3>again because they can't sell them. So the manufacturers are

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<v Speaker 3>now reducing their prices on the shop floor significantly. If

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<v Speaker 3>you want to buy a Tesla model, why that's gone

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<v Speaker 3>from seventy two three hundred to sixty thousand, nine hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a pretty big drop.

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<v Speaker 3>A pergoh E two thousand and eight has gone, would

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<v Speaker 3>you believe it, from sixty three thousand to third nine thousand,

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<v Speaker 3>nine ninety.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a real.

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<v Speaker 3>Reduction in the price because they really need people to

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<v Speaker 3>buy them now. The consequence of that is that if

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<v Speaker 3>you bought it for sixty thousand last week and now

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<v Speaker 3>the car's worth thirty nine thousand, if you go and

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<v Speaker 3>try to sell it in a year's time, the depreciation

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<v Speaker 3>is at least twenty thousand dollars. We all know you

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<v Speaker 3>drive a car off the shop floor and you lose value,

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<v Speaker 3>but you lose even more value with electric vehicles now

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<v Speaker 3>because the prices keep going down and then the technology

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<v Speaker 3>keeps improving with every year. So every time the range

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<v Speaker 3>goes up the driving range on a new electric car,

0:24:36.560 --> 0:24:39.399
<v Speaker 3>it means your old electric car is worth less and

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<v Speaker 3>less and less. It's no surprise I think that people

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<v Speaker 3>are not buying them and now that these manufacturers are

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<v Speaker 3>desperate to try and move them off the dealership floor.

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<v Speaker 2>Because people have woken up and gone, you know, it sounded.

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<v Speaker 3>Nice for a few minutes, but it's just not practical.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, not to mention charging them as an absolute nightmare.

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<v Speaker 4>There's lines out the door, no where.

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<v Speaker 1>You pull in.

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<v Speaker 4>I see them all the time, and I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 4>good luck with that. Fueling up still takes less than

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<v Speaker 4>two minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>But the angle that.

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<v Speaker 4>Some people have taken on this, like finance giant Ross

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<v Speaker 4>Gerber saying that no, this is due to Musk.

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<v Speaker 9>I love that and all the he keeps coming out

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<v Speaker 9>with all this conservative plat trap and saying all these

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<v Speaker 9>controversial things, and that.

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<v Speaker 4>Is what people think of when they decide not to

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<v Speaker 4>buy a Tesla.

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<v Speaker 1>So he is at least I.

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<v Speaker 6>Reckon who buys a Tesla? Why do you buy a Tesla?

0:25:35.240 --> 0:25:39.040
<v Speaker 5>To signal to the world, what a progressive planet, loving,

0:25:39.200 --> 0:25:42.800
<v Speaker 5>touchy feely, you know, nice super guy I am. But

0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:46.560
<v Speaker 5>that ultimate virtine is that ultimate virtue signal. And then

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<v Speaker 5>when along goes on you know X or whatever it's

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<v Speaker 5>called now and says you no annoying, uncomfortable things like

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<v Speaker 5>I believe in free speech or whatever, and suddenly he's

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<v Speaker 5>a pariah of the left. Then suddenly your tesla is

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<v Speaker 5>signaling the opposite. Think this giant seventy thousand dollars virtue

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<v Speaker 5>signaling exercise is suddenly sing signaling the wrong virtue signaling advice.

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<v Speaker 5>And so suddenly like, oh, I'm not going to take

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<v Speaker 5>it out of the people will think if I drive

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<v Speaker 5>my tesla, I like Elon musk lost Gerber. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know who he is or whether he's a company or

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<v Speaker 5>a person.

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<v Speaker 4>Or he's actually an investor in Tesla himself.

0:26:20.040 --> 0:26:24.160
<v Speaker 5>But I reckon, I reckon he's onto something because you know, obviously,

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<v Speaker 5>like you said, the reason you buy an electric car

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<v Speaker 5>is it can't be because it's more convenient, because it's

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<v Speaker 5>not because you have to wait for half I can't

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<v Speaker 5>even wait on my phone charge cheap whatever whatever you

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<v Speaker 5>do it to show the world. You're a massive prog

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<v Speaker 5>rock wanker. And if Elon Musk.

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<v Speaker 1>That is what I think every time I see one.

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<v Speaker 5>If Elon Musk is suddenly the opposite of what you're

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<v Speaker 5>trying to say to everybody, then suddenly your tesla is worthless.

0:26:49.720 --> 0:26:52.520
<v Speaker 5>And as for the Purgos, well we all know why

0:26:52.520 --> 0:27:09.880
<v Speaker 5>they're worthless, because they're Pergos. Want to buy pergo Honestly.

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<v Speaker 3>Lecture of cars when you're getting around in the old

0:27:09.119 --> 0:27:12.280
<v Speaker 3>infestation of German cockr it's supposed to be.

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<v Speaker 5>That has been, that has been fumigated, and I now

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<v Speaker 5>just need to get it to the panel better for

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<v Speaker 5>the front because I had another incident in the Aldi

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<v Speaker 5>car park.

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<v Speaker 6>That's another story.

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<v Speaker 3>German not f If you can get an electric conversion kit,

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<v Speaker 3>would you do it to you?

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<v Speaker 6>It's already converted to LPG. It's already like anything to

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<v Speaker 6>an EV.

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<v Speaker 4>That's that's the that's a waste.

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<v Speaker 5>My mechanic Peter who believes that the human race was

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<v Speaker 5>founded by giant alien visitors to the Pyramids of Kazak.

0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Has it been disproved?

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<v Speaker 6>No, it hasn't. No, I'm all in is the smartest man.

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<v Speaker 5>Apparently there are actually ways where you can get your

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<v Speaker 5>favorite old car, like your American muscle car that you love,

0:27:57.280 --> 0:27:59.439
<v Speaker 5>and they will take out the old petrol engine and

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<v Speaker 5>put in an electric engen Yeah, yeah, and seventy or

0:28:05.160 --> 0:28:09.000
<v Speaker 5>eighty thousand dollars cloud. It's ridiculous thing it can buy.

0:28:09.280 --> 0:28:11.719
<v Speaker 4>You can bribe almost two teslas for that.

0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:14.760
<v Speaker 3>Imagine taking an old Mustang and turn it into an ev.

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<v Speaker 6>Again take recording of the muffler now outlawed.

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<v Speaker 4>Any Prime Minister worth a grain of salt would just

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<v Speaker 4>be like, don't touch the vintage cars. To Victoria now

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<v Speaker 4>where we're all very concerned about the problem of DV

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<v Speaker 4>in our country and we are hearing a lot about

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<v Speaker 4>it and what a scourge it is. It seems Premier

0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:37.680
<v Speaker 4>just Cinra Allen has come up with the perfect solution,

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<v Speaker 4>and that is to get Tim Richson MP to become

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<v Speaker 4>the Parliamentary Secretary for Men's Behavior Change. He proudly tweets today,

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<v Speaker 4>I want to share.

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<v Speaker 1>With you some pretty big news.

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<v Speaker 4>Premier just Center Allen has asked me to serve as

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<v Speaker 4>the Parliamentary Sector Secretary for Men's.

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<v Speaker 1>Behavior Change a nation.

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<v Speaker 4>First, Can I just say I absolutely hate this. Men

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<v Speaker 4>do not need to change their behavior. This is buying

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<v Speaker 4>into this insidious idea. There he is, doesn't he look

0:29:13.000 --> 0:29:17.680
<v Speaker 4>ready to change your behavior? Men? Into this insidious idea

0:29:17.880 --> 0:29:22.280
<v Speaker 4>that men across the board are a massive problem toxic masculinity,

0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:26.840
<v Speaker 4>everyone needs to change their behavior instead of what we

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<v Speaker 4>know to be a handful of repeat offenders in the

0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:35.440
<v Speaker 4>DV space.

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<v Speaker 5>I would just like to take issue with Tim Richardson's

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<v Speaker 5>definition of pretty big news on the Parliamentary Secretary for

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<v Speaker 5>Men's Behavioral Challenge. I mean, again, like with the indigenous issue,

0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:52.600
<v Speaker 5>this is a very very serious issue, and yet it

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<v Speaker 5>seems to get treated with the most tookenistic correct virtus

0:29:58.120 --> 0:29:59.440
<v Speaker 5>sing what is this going to?

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<v Speaker 1>That's right?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, you know, is he now the behavior police?

0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:06.479
<v Speaker 5>Who does he think? You know, which of the repeat

0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:10.360
<v Speaker 5>violent offenders who murdered their ex partners over the last

0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:12.560
<v Speaker 5>few months that we've seen splashed across all the times,

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<v Speaker 5>which of them does he think he could have had

0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:17.440
<v Speaker 5>a quiet cup of tea with and everything would have

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<v Speaker 5>been okay? Like, I just do not understand how people

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:24.600
<v Speaker 5>think on this issue. And again you are right there.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, these stats are not brought up that very

0:30:27.120 --> 0:30:30.520
<v Speaker 5>often because it's not it doesn't serve a convenient political narrative.

0:30:30.800 --> 0:30:34.360
<v Speaker 5>But you know, domestic violence, like all forms of violence,

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<v Speaker 5>is a criminal issue. It is not you know, you

0:30:37.120 --> 0:30:38.240
<v Speaker 5>can call it a lot of you when you say

0:30:38.280 --> 0:30:40.480
<v Speaker 5>it's a political issue, but primarily it's a criminal issue.

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<v Speaker 6>These people, people who are.

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<v Speaker 5>Prepared to be violent to break the law, do horrible

0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:48.720
<v Speaker 5>things to the people they should be loving and protecting

0:30:49.040 --> 0:30:54.760
<v Speaker 5>because they're psychotic, nasty, violent people with incredibly poor impulse

0:30:54.800 --> 0:30:58.120
<v Speaker 5>control and no empathy for other people around them.

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<v Speaker 6>So the idea that you know, hi, how are you?

0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:02.360
<v Speaker 6>What was that Barry? Was it?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, Hi, I'm Tim, I'm the new Parliamentary Secretary for

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<v Speaker 5>Men's Behavioral Change. That this would change that I mean

0:31:09.240 --> 0:31:13.240
<v Speaker 5>two percent of people. An Australian institu of Criminology report

0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:16.320
<v Speaker 5>that seemed to disappear without us trace despite the fate.

0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:19.440
<v Speaker 5>It was the first and only comprehensive study of the

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<v Speaker 5>causes behind domestic violence and pulled together one hundreds and

0:31:23.400 --> 0:31:26.520
<v Speaker 5>hundreds and hundreds of other studies, thousands of documents, and

0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:29.160
<v Speaker 5>it found that, among many other things, there was a

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:33.800
<v Speaker 5>report that found that fifty percent of domestic violence assaults

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<v Speaker 5>were committed by two percent of people. Yeah, so that's

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<v Speaker 5>the level of repeat offenders. If you look at all

0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:42.520
<v Speaker 5>the high profile murders that have just been so gut

0:31:42.560 --> 0:31:45.040
<v Speaker 5>churning and chilling, not a single one of them came

0:31:45.080 --> 0:31:46.800
<v Speaker 5>out of the blue, not a single one. And while

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<v Speaker 5>the Victorian governments were putting in Parliamentary Secretary to the

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<v Speaker 5>Mindehovi trade, you know what the new South Wales government,

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<v Speaker 5>a good labor right government, is doing. It is making

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<v Speaker 5>laws so that people who get charged with domestic violence

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<v Speaker 5>offenses don't get bail, they don't get out again with

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<v Speaker 5>a window of a couple of months to kill the

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<v Speaker 5>person for revenge before they know they're going to go

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:07.680
<v Speaker 5>away in the slammer. That is how you tackle this problem,

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<v Speaker 5>not with these namby pamby bollocks. Oh look at me.

0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:11.760
<v Speaker 5>I care so much, but I'm not really doing anything

0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:12.920
<v Speaker 5>down south of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Marrat as well it should be.

0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:17.240
<v Speaker 3>And of course it denies having a men's behavior change.

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<v Speaker 3>Parliamentary secretary denies that there other forms of domestic violence.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, it's not always men.

0:32:24.520 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 6>It is over and so and so.

0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:30.240
<v Speaker 3>It's you're pinpointing one particular form of domestic violence and

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<v Speaker 3>then ignoring the rest. And imagine if you if you

0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:35.160
<v Speaker 3>were a bloke or even a woman who was a

0:32:35.240 --> 0:32:37.840
<v Speaker 3>victim of domestic violence by another woman, if you're in

0:32:37.880 --> 0:32:40.920
<v Speaker 3>a lesbian partnership, you would look at something like that

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<v Speaker 3>and go, well, I suppose the violence.

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<v Speaker 6>I you wouldn't that fair enough?

0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:47.520
<v Speaker 5>But those cases are extreme that those cases are extremely

0:32:47.560 --> 0:32:50.640
<v Speaker 5>rare statistically the overlalling majority, and sure do South Wales

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:53.440
<v Speaker 5>the entirety of death in a particularly year. They did

0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:54.960
<v Speaker 5>it started, they went through all the cases. It is

0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:56.480
<v Speaker 5>men and women. So I've got no problem with that.

0:32:56.640 --> 0:32:58.680
<v Speaker 5>But again instead of just saying, oh look I've got

0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:00.360
<v Speaker 5>a little name badge now that said that I'm going

0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:02.640
<v Speaker 5>to change your behavior, you know, And again it's sort

0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:07.000
<v Speaker 5>of another We've had decades now of education campaigns changing

0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:10.600
<v Speaker 5>with favor. If anything, the problem has got worse. And

0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:12.640
<v Speaker 5>this is why people's ou admission it's a scourge. It's

0:33:12.640 --> 0:33:15.520
<v Speaker 5>a pandemic of domestic files. It's less than terrorism. And

0:33:15.560 --> 0:33:19.720
<v Speaker 5>this is after all, these broad education campaigns speaking to

0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:23.040
<v Speaker 5>all men have been out there in full force for

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 5>years and years and years. Clearly they're not working because

0:33:25.560 --> 0:33:28.520
<v Speaker 5>they're not targeting the real trouble spots. It's like putting

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<v Speaker 5>you know, it's like putting a speed camera on every

0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:33.880
<v Speaker 5>single corner instead of the corner you know that the

0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 5>deadly accidents are happening at.

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:36.840
<v Speaker 6>Instead of targeting the most at.

0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:39.240
<v Speaker 5>Risk people, the most at risk areas, they're just going

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<v Speaker 5>all men, can you please be better.

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<v Speaker 4>And running jolly ads that we pay millions of dollars for,

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<v Speaker 4>Like it starts with this respect.

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<v Speaker 1>And all this kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 4>The DV perpetrators aren't watching your dizzy little ads going yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what, I should really pull my socks up

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<v Speaker 4>and stop bashing women for crying out a loud, do

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<v Speaker 4>your research and actually do things that are going to

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<v Speaker 4>affect change, like you just said we are doing in

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<v Speaker 4>New South Wales, thank goodness. Quickly to the States now,

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<v Speaker 4>where Donald Trump's criminal trial has just wrapped up. Now

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<v Speaker 4>we've just got to wait to hear what the jury

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<v Speaker 4>will come up with. It could be hours, it could

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<v Speaker 4>be days. We're all on the edge of our seats

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<v Speaker 4>to see how this latest witch hunt is going to end.

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<v Speaker 10>But actor Robert de Niro took it upon himself to

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<v Speaker 10>rock up outside the court today on the final day

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<v Speaker 10>of all the action and let everyone know where he stood.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mean to scare you. No, no, wait, maybe.

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<v Speaker 6>I do mean to scare you.

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<v Speaker 11>If Trump returns to the White House, you can kiss

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<v Speaker 11>these freedoms goodbye that we all take for granted, and

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<v Speaker 11>elections forget about it.

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<v Speaker 6>That's over, that's done.

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<v Speaker 1>If he gets in, I can tell you right no now,

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<v Speaker 1>he will never leave. What kind of hysterical clap trap

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<v Speaker 1>is this? If he gets in, he'll never leave. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>never have another election, all our freedoms.

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<v Speaker 4>Gorne Poof of course this went down really well with

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<v Speaker 4>the Trump supporters outside court.

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<v Speaker 11>You're you areas you work, your suck trash.

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<v Speaker 6>Knock at movies, don't go after the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>How the Democrats what? I don't know whether this was

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<v Speaker 1>in conjunction with.

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<v Speaker 4>The Democrats, who would have sat around being like our

0:35:46.600 --> 0:35:50.879
<v Speaker 4>eighty one year old really seen old president is proving unpopular.

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<v Speaker 12>Let's wheel out a seemingly equally unhinged eighty year old

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<v Speaker 12>man to trumpet how great he is, Ladies and gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 12>Robert Nero and one of his most acting roles, yet

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<v Speaker 12>some kind.

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<v Speaker 6>Of remember the law to kill Trump gets re elected,

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<v Speaker 6>he will never.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't do his his script rehearsal before he went

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<v Speaker 3>his show, people try.

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<v Speaker 4>To give him passion speeches from notes.

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<v Speaker 5>When I first heard this, I thought, I thought, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>Robert de Niro is just wandering around soho and he's

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<v Speaker 5>just kind of, you know, got lost and ended up

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<v Speaker 5>on the court steps and going, oh, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 5>say something about Trump. Megan Kelly said earlier on Paul

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<v Speaker 5>Murray that that this was actually part of a sort

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<v Speaker 5>of orchestrated campaign by the Democrats to come.

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<v Speaker 6>And it's the worst thing.

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<v Speaker 5>Have they learned nothing from the fact that when Donald

0:36:43.600 --> 0:36:45.960
<v Speaker 5>Trump was out there and the Steel States speaking to

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<v Speaker 5>a thousands people that rallies about what he was going

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<v Speaker 5>to do for blue collar workers. Hillary Clinton was hanging

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<v Speaker 5>out with Beyonce, like, who do we know who's a

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<v Speaker 5>real man of the people.

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<v Speaker 13>Robert de Niro, Yeah, Raging Bull. You know, it's like

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<v Speaker 13>that was a movie. He was acting. He's not really

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<v Speaker 13>a doubt and he'll boxer seeming the movie star.

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<v Speaker 3>He thinks the US is about to turn into a

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<v Speaker 3>hotel California or of course you can check out, but

0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:16.799
<v Speaker 3>you can never leave. Donald Trump outside court today of course,

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<v Speaker 3>is now waiting for the deliberation well, he was as

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<v Speaker 3>entertaining as always.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe no mistake about it. I'm here becot herself crooked.

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<v Speaker 7>Joe Biden, the worst president in the history of our country,

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<v Speaker 7>is destroying our country.

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<v Speaker 2>He's destroying our country and he's also destroying it with

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<v Speaker 2>the weaponization. And this is purely his webanization.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's going to be interesting to see what

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<v Speaker 3>happens over the next couple of days.

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<v Speaker 1>It really is.

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<v Speaker 4>So the Dems rolled out dear Niro and someone who

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<v Speaker 4>didn't need to be paid or approached by the Republicans,

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<v Speaker 4>Star for Star Dennis Quaid. Here he is talking to

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<v Speaker 4>Pierce Morgan saying, Hey.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's not perfect, but he's got my vote.

0:37:59.600 --> 0:38:01.040
<v Speaker 6>I think I'm going to vote for him.

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<v Speaker 14>I was ready not to vote for Trump until what

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<v Speaker 14>I saw is more than politics. I see a weaponization

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<v Speaker 14>of our justice system and a challenge to our constitutions

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<v Speaker 14>as Americans that I don't think we're going to have.

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<v Speaker 14>And you know, Trump is the most investigated person probably

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<v Speaker 14>in the history of the world, and they haven't been

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<v Speaker 14>able to really get him. People might call him an asshole,

0:38:32.600 --> 0:38:33.600
<v Speaker 14>but he's my asshole.

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<v Speaker 1>How's that for endorsement? This guy's an asshole.

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<v Speaker 10>He's my assle Stella Stelly.

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<v Speaker 4>You cannot for better ratings than that.

0:38:44.200 --> 0:38:46.520
<v Speaker 5>It's amazing and I've just got to say I'm really

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<v Speaker 5>looking forward to the next Robert Dener Dennis Quaid. I

0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:51.759
<v Speaker 5>think that's kind of you know, the dramatic tension is.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, the one thing about Dennis Quaid was

0:38:53.800 --> 0:38:56.279
<v Speaker 3>he didn't have to read from notes in order to

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<v Speaker 3>give that speech.

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<v Speaker 2>He actually just sort of said it on the spot.

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<v Speaker 3>It's amazing how you feel like you can trust someone

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<v Speaker 3>when they can talk from the heart, unlike Robert de Niro.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, coming up in the papers, we'll tell you

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<v Speaker 3>about one Australian town where break ins have increased by

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<v Speaker 3>seventy percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Will tell you where it is after the break.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, let's get stuck into the papers, starting with

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<v Speaker 3>the Australian Tomorrow. Unbalanced Tingle, I've seen a bit unbalanced.

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<v Speaker 2>Not being able to pronounce the headline, Abe German.

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<v Speaker 3>Stingles ABC News chief's humiliating rebuke high profile ABC political

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<v Speaker 3>journalist law At Tingle has been publicly lambastard by the

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<v Speaker 3>public broadcaster's new boss, who said the veteran reporters fierce

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<v Speaker 3>criticism of Opposition leader Peter Dutton's policies on migration, on housing,

0:39:51.280 --> 0:39:55.000
<v Speaker 3>and her assertion that Australia is a racist country failed

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<v Speaker 3>to meet the organization's editorial standards. Oh knock me over

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<v Speaker 3>with a feather, Dart, I couldn't have been able to

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<v Speaker 3>tell that, Joe.

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<v Speaker 5>I guarantee you side unseen right now. There is a

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<v Speaker 5>Twitter hashtag that spouted about thirty thousand following.

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<v Speaker 6>And says, standish, I guarantee it.

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<v Speaker 5>I haven't heard, I don't know, I haven't looked. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>just saying put the house idea. But this is the

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<v Speaker 5>thing that they were all they will say. This is

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<v Speaker 5>another example of ABC's lurch to the right. Under whoever

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<v Speaker 5>it is, either Butcher or Kick Williams or whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 5>you can just absolutely guarantee.

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<v Speaker 3>The people who because balance is alert to the right.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I guarantee you all the crazy rusted on ABC

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<v Speaker 5>sort of you know, boomer socialists who never came back

0:40:43.680 --> 0:40:46.799
<v Speaker 5>from Woodstock, plus all the new ones that they are

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<v Speaker 5>going to be losing their pajamas over this.

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<v Speaker 1>They just love what they call a brusal takedown.

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<v Speaker 4>Though in his brutal takedown of Tingle, mister Stephens said,

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<v Speaker 4>although the remarks were conversational and not me in her

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<v Speaker 4>work capacity, the ABC and its employees have unique obligations

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<v Speaker 4>in the Australian media.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it sounds so brutal.

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<v Speaker 4>It sounds like the really smashed it for it news boss.

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<v Speaker 1>Go get him.

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<v Speaker 5>Of course it was the Odds that first broke the side.

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<v Speaker 5>Sophie Ellsworth. The real sacrifice to journalism actually schlept it

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<v Speaker 5>to the Sydney Writers Festival and had to sit through

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<v Speaker 5>the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 6>Just what a sacrifice to get that.

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, I'd be asking for triple time to go and

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<v Speaker 3>do an assignment.

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<v Speaker 5>Another quick thanks to Albow for implementing the policy that

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<v Speaker 5>James and I came up with on the Daily Telegraph

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<v Speaker 5>video site. Immigration Minister Andrew Giles was born month after

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<v Speaker 5>the Albanesi government was elected that up to two thousand,

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<v Speaker 5>eight hundred cases could be impacted by its decision to

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<v Speaker 5>soften Section five oh one visa cancelations, undermining his claim

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<v Speaker 5>that judges had misinterpreted Direction ninety nine when allowing foreign

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<v Speaker 5>born rapists, pedophiles and other criminals to stay in Australia.

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<v Speaker 5>That's not a paragraph you want to read, is it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's not like we didn't already know.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean in the Senate hearing just yesterday, Yes, it

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<v Speaker 4>was Tuesday, just yesterday. We already were told that. They

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<v Speaker 4>were like, don't let him blame.

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<v Speaker 1>Us for anything.

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<v Speaker 4>We're acting on his directions, and we warned him that

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<v Speaker 4>should he go ahead with Direction ninety nine, it would

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<v Speaker 4>result in more criminal immigrants just being able to stay

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<v Speaker 4>here and we're helpless to which is odd because his

0:42:35.560 --> 0:42:38.879
<v Speaker 4>defense is why wasn't I warned, Yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>Tell me that this was the word for words said

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<v Speaker 4>that in the Senate here, and going back.

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<v Speaker 3>To something you said earlier, I think that Andrew Giles

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<v Speaker 3>is the child in nappies and Clara O'Neill is the

0:42:52.160 --> 0:42:54.799
<v Speaker 3>hapless mother trying to clean him up. That's where we've

0:42:54.840 --> 0:42:57.359
<v Speaker 3>gotten to. If he's not a dead man walking, then

0:42:57.360 --> 0:42:58.680
<v Speaker 3>there's something seriously wrong.

0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:01.479
<v Speaker 4>Well, we know there's a lot of things seriously wrong

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<v Speaker 4>with this government. They don't seem to have a problem

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<v Speaker 4>with him. To the front page of the Herald Son,

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<v Speaker 4>now there's been a breakthrough in the Sam Murphy murder case.

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<v Speaker 1>We've found it, reads the splash.

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<v Speaker 9>Nearly four months police have desperately hoped for a key

0:43:17.600 --> 0:43:21.360
<v Speaker 9>clue in the search for missing mum Cementa Murphy. On Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 9>there were hugs and high fives at what.

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<v Speaker 4>Is hoped will be a major breakthrough after searchers uncovered

0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:31.480
<v Speaker 4>a mobile phone at a dam in bunig Jong. So

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<v Speaker 4>we know that Patrick Stephenson, the twenty two year old tradesman,

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<v Speaker 4>he has been charged with her murderer. He'll would return

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<v Speaker 4>to court in August. But so far, this is when

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, you know what, I don't think it should

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<v Speaker 4>be against the law to just torture those kind of people.

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<v Speaker 1>And be like, we need to know what happened? Where

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<v Speaker 1>is she? But of course, in lieu.

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<v Speaker 4>Of that, we have a phone which hopefully police will

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<v Speaker 4>be able to get into and find out perhaps what

0:44:01.320 --> 0:44:03.319
<v Speaker 4>her last moments looked like.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, secretly, some things cops do behind closed doors may

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<v Speaker 3>venture on torture. But the phone that they found today

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<v Speaker 3>was apparently in a leather wallet and enclosed in that

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<v Speaker 3>leather wallet, from what reporters who were there could see

0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:19.759
<v Speaker 3>were credit cards and potentially ID cards and that kind

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<v Speaker 3>of thing. So in terms of a breakthrough in this case,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean they still have not found the body.

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<v Speaker 5>It just defies belief and they started to just doing

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<v Speaker 5>my head in. But even the fact that it's taken

0:44:29.800 --> 0:44:33.040
<v Speaker 5>so long that they found this in a dam, I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>it is almost the equivalent of a needle in.

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<v Speaker 6>A haste, And it just gives you.

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<v Speaker 5>I suppose in case of just the scale and the

0:44:41.200 --> 0:44:44.520
<v Speaker 5>huge resources that have gone into this, the amount of

0:44:44.600 --> 0:44:48.600
<v Speaker 5>combing through that they must have done, yees, phenomenal. Now

0:44:48.719 --> 0:44:52.360
<v Speaker 5>we promised, and so we shall deliver. The town where

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<v Speaker 5>city wrestles with a seventy percent spike in break ins

0:44:58.040 --> 0:45:03.360
<v Speaker 5>over the past decade is, of course, beautiful downtown Townsville,

0:45:03.840 --> 0:45:08.160
<v Speaker 5>where the Townsville Bully reports sleepless nights and shattered nerves

0:45:08.200 --> 0:45:11.000
<v Speaker 5>are becoming the norm for victims of crime in Townsville.

0:45:11.360 --> 0:45:15.640
<v Speaker 5>As the city wrestles with a seventy percent spike in

0:45:15.760 --> 0:45:20.040
<v Speaker 5>break ins over the past decade, Police data shows the

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<v Speaker 5>number of unlawful entry offenses saw it from three thousand,

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<v Speaker 5>two hundred four and twenty thirteen to five thousand, four

0:45:26.440 --> 0:45:30.360
<v Speaker 5>hundred and seventy four in twenty twenty three, signaling a

0:45:30.400 --> 0:45:32.960
<v Speaker 5>growing concern. I think growing concern is probably something of

0:45:33.000 --> 0:45:34.319
<v Speaker 5>an understatement.

0:45:33.800 --> 0:45:34.560
<v Speaker 2>I would have thought so.

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<v Speaker 3>And every one of these headlines that comes forward in

0:45:38.000 --> 0:45:41.120
<v Speaker 3>Queensland over the next few months is just poisoned for

0:45:41.200 --> 0:45:43.680
<v Speaker 3>Stephen Miles and the state government up there.

0:45:44.000 --> 0:45:45.040
<v Speaker 6>But it's all made up in Kayleb.

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<v Speaker 3>That's exactly as they said, there is no crime wave.

0:45:49.000 --> 0:45:53.880
<v Speaker 3>It's just a perception and it's the Meja lying to you.

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<v Speaker 6>A lot of electric scooters in townships.

0:45:55.960 --> 0:45:59.960
<v Speaker 2>Electric with foreign weavers getting around on them.

0:46:00.080 --> 0:46:02.880
<v Speaker 3>But every one of these stories just needs to be

0:46:02.960 --> 0:46:06.839
<v Speaker 3>driven home because the paliche now Miles government had so

0:46:07.320 --> 0:46:10.560
<v Speaker 3>long to do something about youth crime and it just

0:46:10.600 --> 0:46:12.120
<v Speaker 3>gets worse and worse and worse.

0:46:12.480 --> 0:46:14.640
<v Speaker 4>But you know, they had their brand new eleven points

0:46:14.680 --> 0:46:17.920
<v Speaker 4>plan to tackle the hum crime crisis is.

0:46:17.840 --> 0:46:18.440
<v Speaker 1>In the States.

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<v Speaker 4>This is their fifth time they've had a point plan.

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<v Speaker 4>It started out with five points, then it was a

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<v Speaker 4>different five points. Now we're up to eleven points, so

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<v Speaker 4>you know what's going to work.

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<v Speaker 1>The last one was a ten point plan.

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<v Speaker 4>This one's an eleven point actual points.

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<v Speaker 6>It turns out there was no point.

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<v Speaker 3>Indeed, nothing fixes anything better than an eleven point plan.

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<v Speaker 3>After the break, the man who decided he was going

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<v Speaker 3>to live as a border collide you reckon, he could

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<v Speaker 3>stick to it.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll find that.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>There are some mornings I wake up and look at

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<v Speaker 3>my two cats on the bed, Boo and clawed Claude

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<v Speaker 3>named for Claude Crow of the Adelaide Crows by the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh God, why would you do? Wouldn't it be.

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<v Speaker 3>Niceudn't it be nice if I could live the life

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<v Speaker 3>of a cat, even though you had to lick your

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<v Speaker 3>own bam and all sorts of stuff. But there was

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<v Speaker 3>one blocal Liz who decided he actually wanted to be

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<v Speaker 3>a border college He did.

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<v Speaker 4>His name is Toco, and in twenty twenty two he

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<v Speaker 4>realized his dream after spending fourteen thousand dollars on a

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<v Speaker 4>very elaborate border collie outfit. But he's now decided in

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty four that it's actually really hard to walk

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<v Speaker 4>in this costume.

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<v Speaker 1>As a human. It's hard to walk on all fours.

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<v Speaker 4>So he's calling time on his lifelong fantasy of becoming

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<v Speaker 4>an animal. I guess he's fulfilled it now, Joe.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's like, you know what, I'm one, I'm done here.

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<v Speaker 5>I just have so many questions, but one of them

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<v Speaker 5>that's terrifying.

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<v Speaker 4>I hope no kids will one of them, because that

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<v Speaker 4>is just and that poor dog is a.

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<v Speaker 2>Mate. You wouldn't put him over the but look, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't even move. But like.

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<v Speaker 3>If someone walks into your costume shop and says, I

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<v Speaker 3>want to border collie costume because I want to live

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<v Speaker 3>as a border Collie, you don't make him the border

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<v Speaker 3>collie costume. Yes you don't.

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<v Speaker 6>He takes a man.

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<v Speaker 3>But then you call the local you know, asylum, and go,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a dude here who wants to live as a

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<v Speaker 3>border Collie.

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<v Speaker 5>Like Judge, Egie was a bear. I can't I live

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<v Speaker 5>like a border college No. The real question here is firstly,

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<v Speaker 5>when you tease this story before the break, he said,

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<v Speaker 5>and do you think you follow through with it as

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<v Speaker 5>if this was a story about millennials not being able

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<v Speaker 5>to commit to projects. And then when you're introducing it

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<v Speaker 5>after the break, you make it about how you want

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<v Speaker 5>to live like a cat, even though it could involve

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<v Speaker 5>liking your own butt? Will we And then you have

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<v Speaker 5>the to marrate it to Judge Toko, are you telling

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<v Speaker 5>me that you may be a magistrate?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, but cats and dogs and whatever mean animals

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<v Speaker 3>that live in the home, don't have to work, they

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<v Speaker 3>don't pay any rent.

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<v Speaker 2>You're telling me you've never wanted to live like that.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm having to lick your own butt every day. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>you know what, I think. I'd like to catch the

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<v Speaker 5>train and go to work.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I tell you what.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to come back as a race horse because

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<v Speaker 3>I know how well they treated.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much for your company.

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<v Speaker 3>Tonight upnixt the reader, Pan and your show Goodnes