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Speaker 2: I'm Mickie Fisher, and welcome to the Village Crazy Lady.
Speaker 2: People are talking to me and they are not physically
Speaker 2: in this room, so just strap in for that.
Speaker 3: Can't call me crazy, so I said it first.
Speaker 2: Whoever's trying to come through, whatever messages need to come through, like,
Speaker 2: just bring it on. Let's do it Crazy Crazy Crazy,
Speaker 2: The Village Crazy Lady Podcast. Hello, gorgeous legends, and welcome
Speaker 2: to another episode of the Village Crazy Lady.
Speaker 3: This week. I don't have a Village Crazy Lady in
Speaker 3: the room with me.
Speaker 2: I have I have a comedian, Shadwicker, who has been
Speaker 2: kind of dragged in here because he works in the studio.
Speaker 2: And I've been saying for a while, I need you
Speaker 2: on the podcast because I want to do some like
Speaker 2: like you're would you say you're a skeptic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, not even a little bit. I'm a cynic.
Speaker 1: I'm a synic by nature, and I'm a synic by
Speaker 1: trade being a comedian.
Speaker 2: So I feel like, yeah, you can't have a spiritual
Speaker 2: awakening because it will like fuck with your whole like
Speaker 2: comic thing.
Speaker 1: No exactly. And I worked in like I worked in
Speaker 1: radio for many years and like we do segments with psychics.
Speaker 4: No one like quite like you, though, Mickey, Okay, no
Speaker 4: one quite.
Speaker 3: Like you in what way?
Speaker 1: Well, I've never met someone that speaks to aliens. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that was meeting you and hearing that. I was like,
Speaker 1: this is different. And the thing is is like as well,
Speaker 1: like I'm a skeptic, but I love crazy, Okay, Like
Speaker 1: I love her crazy, you know what I mean? Crazy
Speaker 1: Village crazy lady is a great like thing. But it's
Speaker 1: like I feel like it's it's so feminine. Village crazy
Speaker 1: Lady sounds so fun, whereas like the crazy bloke is
Speaker 1: the guy screaming at you on the street with his
Speaker 1: shirt off you let's not go near him.
Speaker 3: The village crazy lady, she'll like look after you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen to the village ideas that guy I don't
Speaker 1: want to be anywhy, yeah, absolutely?
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, well I love this.
Speaker 2: So you're a skeptic, but like, don't mind a bit
Speaker 2: of crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love a crazy story.
Speaker 3: How about aliens?
Speaker 1: Aliens' I think that's probably where part of my curiosity
Speaker 1: gets peaked, because it's.
Speaker 4: Like the idea of people on the idea of the
Speaker 4: other side.
Speaker 1: And stuff just doesn't resonate with me at all, So
Speaker 1: it's just the dead for you. Yeah, that stuff I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not on board with. But the possibility of
Speaker 1: alien beings and stuff, I'm like that stuff. I'm a
Speaker 1: little bit like, Okay, we're we're a bit disproven here.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll give you a maybe maybe.
Speaker 2: See, I think like the concept that we are it, yeah,
Speaker 2: and like we're the only species in yeah, I think
Speaker 2: the universe.
Speaker 1: I think that's ludicrous surely because I also just don't
Speaker 1: think any of us.
Speaker 3: Are that special a hundred percent.
Speaker 2: See, I agree with that, And that's where I think,
Speaker 2: like humans are so egotistical in.
Speaker 3: The way that they're just like we are it.
Speaker 2: There's no way that there's any other life because like
Speaker 2: doesn't get better than us.
Speaker 3: And yet like you look at us and we're the worst.
Speaker 1: Well we're the best though as well, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Like there's wearing. Yeah, there's reasons wear in
Speaker 1: charge and not the dogs.
Speaker 3: I don't know how you're dog before don't think.
Speaker 1: We're pretty cool, Like I think dogs are pretty stoked
Speaker 1: that we're in charge. True, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: because they're like that's my that's my mate, what about.
Speaker 3: Like, what about like other alien species.
Speaker 2: Do you think that they look down on us and
Speaker 2: they go, oh my goodness, those cute little humans.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm in two minds as to whether they've even
Speaker 1: spotted us. You reckon, because I think there's life, right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think there's definitely life, But the definition of life
Speaker 1: is on such a broad spectrum, because like life is
Speaker 1: a little microbe floating around in a Petri dish, right,
Speaker 1: Like that's life?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So like I think that definitely exists out
Speaker 1: there in the universe, but.
Speaker 3: Not like an alien looking thing, but.
Speaker 1: In terms of like, yeah, like a half octopus looking
Speaker 1: thing wandering around being like Jesus here means are up
Speaker 1: to some mischief. I don't know, because I'm like, like,
Speaker 1: at some point, you've got to think that if they're
Speaker 1: in any way similar to us, okay, right, even if
Speaker 1: it's like the idea that they're watching us live our
Speaker 1: lives like a TV show. I mean, I don't know
Speaker 1: about you, but after the third season, I start to
Speaker 1: get really bored. Yeah, you know, and I find it
Speaker 1: hard to believe that where like the Friends or Seinfeld
Speaker 1: of the universe, where it's like you can get ten
Speaker 1: seasons out of us, although they're probably going with like
Speaker 1: they're looking at the world now and being like God,
Speaker 1: they're going with the war idea again. This is like
Speaker 1: we're going to do this again.
Speaker 3: We did this like four seasons.
Speaker 1: These guys get some new ideas, but they.
Speaker 3: Don't even remember how it ended last time.
Speaker 1: The same people are involved as well. That's crazy.
Speaker 2: But that's where I feel like if they are watching us,
Speaker 2: like you know, we're a television series, they're like, their technology, right,
Speaker 2: is like I mean even scientists say this, it's like
Speaker 2: galactic species. Their technology is fifty thousand years.
Speaker 3: Beyond ours as far as like in advance, more advance
Speaker 3: than now.
Speaker 1: Because the idea is like with that, James Webb tells
Speaker 1: her that they're like they looked back and they reckon,
Speaker 1: I can pretty much see the Big Bang. So you go,
Speaker 1: how long's universe existed? You look into the sky and
Speaker 1: you see a star. The odds are that stars already
Speaker 1: dead because by the time the light of that star
Speaker 1: hits you, it's been an X amount of years. So like, yeah,
Speaker 1: if you did, if there was someone living all that,
Speaker 1: That's the other reason why I find it kind of
Speaker 1: also hard to see that they're watching us, because like
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you get a TV series, you
Speaker 1: want to watch every episode tonight. Yeah, yeah, but they've
Speaker 1: got to wait fifty thousand years for the light come
Speaker 1: to them. They're is such a high delay that's happening
Speaker 1: on Earth. They're all the way over there.
Speaker 3: But their technology is so good it can probably.
Speaker 4: That's maybe that physics.
Speaker 2: They can't make physics, you know, maybe they can, though
Speaker 2: this is human physics. They're fucking alien physics. They're like,
Speaker 2: you primitive bastards.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean maybe, and then if they are watching men,
Speaker 1: If there are aliens right now and they are watching
Speaker 1: us what we're doing, this is gross negligence, Like sitting
Speaker 1: here and watching what we're doing right now and being
Speaker 1: like it's like these people that go, you know how
Speaker 1: there's like all that theory. They're like, oh, aliens came
Speaker 1: and built the pyramids. Aliens came and built the pyramids,
Speaker 1: and then and then they left, and like now the
Speaker 1: pyramids are just sitting where their off and I was like,
Speaker 1: how does that even make any sense? And they came
Speaker 1: down they saw primitive man who was still like in
Speaker 1: society and stuff, and went, hey, look we can build
Speaker 1: a big triangle. What do you think of that? That's
Speaker 1: pretty sick? And we're like, wow, that is amazing. They go, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's he makes a food anyway, See, you have fun,
Speaker 1: enjoy trying to come back. You're going to come and
Speaker 1: check in on how it was going at all? Just
Speaker 1: here you go bye, And then like if they are.
Speaker 4: Watching the whole time, look at what we're doing. Now
Speaker 4: this is negligent.
Speaker 1: We're like, it's like giving a baby and some beers
Speaker 1: and chucking.
Speaker 4: Him at the steering wheel of the Car's happened.
Speaker 3: You'll be good.
Speaker 2: But is that is that like adding like an element
Speaker 2: of entertainment to their own television if we're imagining this
Speaker 2: as like a telling vision series, Like if you were
Speaker 2: making a reality show right and you're producing it, you
Speaker 2: would fuck with the people that are like in the show,
Speaker 2: would you not just say entertainment?
Speaker 1: Truman Show style? But see, then you get into the
Speaker 1: idea of like, you know, would you think like I've
Speaker 1: got I've got mates that think we're in a simulation.
Speaker 3: Oh really you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: They're like, man, it's just all a simulation, mate.
Speaker 3: How many how much like have they smoked before they start.
Speaker 1: The people smoke taps. It's like, yeah, I just think
Speaker 1: there's so many variables. I think it's fun to explore
Speaker 1: the ideas. Yeah, but in terms of whether I believe
Speaker 1: any of them is a whole another concept, because I
Speaker 1: think I think that I'm pretty I mean, I talk
Speaker 1: for a living.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I could probably come up with a way to explain
Speaker 1: why these things exist.
Speaker 3: Okay, fun, but.
Speaker 4: Then that to me kind of proves as well.
Speaker 1: But maybe they're not real. Yeah, because I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: if I can explain it, then surely it can't be right.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean I believe basically, like it's all true,
Speaker 2: and none of it's true.
Speaker 3: Okay, at the same time, do you know what I.
Speaker 1: Mean, guy's cat, was it shreding his cat or whatever?
Speaker 1: Like the cat inside the boxes both alive and dead
Speaker 1: at the same time because you.
Speaker 3: Can't say it, Oh god, okay, maybe what everything? Oh okay,
Speaker 3: we can't see it, so it's all of it.
Speaker 2: But I guess that's it, you know, Like to me,
Speaker 2: it's almost and you know, I sit here and I
Speaker 2: can speak to the dead, and I've you know, chatted
Speaker 2: to aliens, I've done lots of weird shit, so all
Speaker 2: I can go off is my experience. But I'm also
Speaker 2: so aware that if I wasn't me, I would be like,
Speaker 2: get fucked.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's yeah, like a self aware yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: And then that makes you more crazy lady or less.
Speaker 3: I don't know both. I'm the dead cat. I'm the
Speaker 3: dead part of your laugh cat.
Speaker 2: Because I feel like I can sit there and that's
Speaker 2: where I despite the fact that I can like see
Speaker 2: certain things, experience certain things, and I still the reason
Speaker 2: why I didn't come out of the broom closet until
Speaker 2: I was like almost.
Speaker 3: Thirty was because I was a skeptic.
Speaker 2: Because despite experiencing things, despite seeing dead people literally come
Speaker 2: to me and talk to me and seeing the weirdest
Speaker 2: fucking things ever, I was still like, am I just
Speaker 2: fucking insane?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 4: Well, I mean aren't we all? Aren't we all crazy?
Speaker 2: It's at the bottom line, we're all just a bit
Speaker 2: fucking crazy. Well, I have some like because like I
Speaker 2: have some questions, So let's and it's not like we're
Speaker 2: not trying to prove anything, disprove anything.
Speaker 3: It's just more of a like just.
Speaker 2: A chat, just like I'd love to get your perspective
Speaker 2: on certain things. And because you know, there's like people
Speaker 2: who go to psychics and or mediums and they'll you know,
Speaker 2: channel their dead grandmother and yeah, and it'll be so
Speaker 2: they'll sit there and they'll go there's like there's no way.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's even happened with like my own partner,
Speaker 2: and he still is a skeptic, but he has.
Speaker 1: Seen fascinating dynamic that you would live in because like
Speaker 1: I added some of your clips and stuff, and it's
Speaker 1: like to have a partner who's also a skeptic. He's
Speaker 1: like he just must be addicted to chaos. This is
Speaker 1: this is some fun stuff.
Speaker 3: You've met it before, so he has to be absolutely.
Speaker 1: I mean it would be exciting.
Speaker 2: Well, and he never he never sits there and he's
Speaker 2: not like you're wrong. He's and he's always interested. He's
Speaker 2: like so intrigued. He loves to listen to it. But
Speaker 2: I think it's almost like I'm probably the same. It's
Speaker 2: sort of like I think it's it's important to have
Speaker 2: an element of like questioning what you're what you're hearing,
Speaker 2: what you're experiencing, what someone else is saying to you,
Speaker 2: because I think if we're coming from a lens of
Speaker 2: everything that's coming out of your mouth is Bible. Then,
Speaker 2: like what the point, like, what is the absolute point
Speaker 2: of anything?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I get that.
Speaker 2: I think we should always question everything and put it
Speaker 2: through our own filter.
Speaker 1: I'm a curious person too, so like I enjoy listening
Speaker 1: to things like this because I find them entertaining.
Speaker 4: Nothing else, nothing else.
Speaker 1: I find it quite funny. So there's like that side
Speaker 1: of it. But like you're never gonna you're never going
Speaker 1: to find me being like yeah, man, to like find
Speaker 1: my grandmother. Yeah, you know what I mean, Like I'm
Speaker 1: not really I'm never going to seek that out.
Speaker 3: I feel like you could play like a really good
Speaker 3: character of that though. I just really had that vision.
Speaker 1: Of like being the person who's into like.
Speaker 3: Someone like I can see with like beads around you.
Speaker 1: It's the long hair. It's the long hair and the
Speaker 1: fact that I'm like part Pakistani, so I fit the
Speaker 1: spiritual hitting a little metal bowl and bloody where is
Speaker 1: it Tibet?
Speaker 2: So if I do if like this, if this podcast
Speaker 2: itself is so life changing that I just change it
Speaker 2: all for you, then you can really slip into that question.
Speaker 1: I mean the Beatles went out there and had acid
Speaker 1: and that'd be fun to experience.
Speaker 2: Again, that's just spiritual awakening. Yeah, all right, so here
Speaker 2: are my these are my questions, okay, and we can
Speaker 2: just we'll just explore, we'll see what happens. Okay, So
Speaker 2: do you what, well, what do you think happened when
Speaker 2: we die? Then?
Speaker 1: I mean that's a boring answer.
Speaker 3: Do you think we just fucking end up in the ground?
Speaker 3: That's it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think there isn't like it's probably what
Speaker 1: is it, like nihilistic or whatever, But it's like I
Speaker 1: think there is kind of a sweetness to.
Speaker 3: That, to just the end.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're gone, because doesn't it's like it kind of
Speaker 1: I think that when you die, you're gone. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it. I also understand that it is a hard concept.
Speaker 1: I can't see her and pretend like I've completely wrapped
Speaker 1: my head around that concept that it just ends, because
Speaker 1: so much happens in your mind, Like you can create
Speaker 1: other worlds in your mind, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So it's like, yeah, wow, it's this like powerful processor
Speaker 1: in your head that you can make all these things,
Speaker 1: and the concept of that just switching off out of
Speaker 1: nowhere and not existing anymore is a hard thing to fathom,
Speaker 1: but that's why people have gone insane. Contemplating their own
Speaker 1: existence and the finite nature of life is also what
Speaker 1: drives innovation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: People want to make things better because there is an end.
Speaker 1: And I think it's like it's like this, right, So
Speaker 1: I don't know how to play an instrument, okay, And
Speaker 1: I tried when I was younger, and I kind of
Speaker 1: like got the shits and like stopped, and I always
Speaker 1: regret that decision. Now I could learn to play an
Speaker 1: instrument again. But when people talk about how, oh, man,
Speaker 1: if you could live forever, what would you do And
Speaker 1: a lot of people go, oh, I'd learn how to
Speaker 1: play the guitar and the piano and stuff. And then
Speaker 1: the counter argument that is always like, well, why don't
Speaker 1: you just do it now? Because if you're not going
Speaker 1: to do it now with an end date, what makes
Speaker 1: you think you're going to do it when you're going
Speaker 1: to live forever because you can just always keep kicking
Speaker 1: the game down the road no matter what. So I think, like,
Speaker 1: I think it is the end, and I think there's
Speaker 1: also something sweet and kind of would you say, like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, like beautiful in that there's an end.
Speaker 1: There's an end, so it's like it's done, so you
Speaker 1: just got to you got it gives you an urgency
Speaker 1: to be like, well, you've got to do something for it.
Speaker 1: You've got to not put up with being in the
Speaker 1: Monday because at some point it does end and that's it.
Speaker 1: But then at the same time, don't regret too much
Speaker 1: because when it's done, it's dark. You're not going to
Speaker 1: bear around to regret what happened because you're not there anymore.
Speaker 3: Yes, So just enjoy it way though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I understand it's like I find it hard
Speaker 1: to kind of fathom, but I think that is like
Speaker 1: also the reason why it's worth doing.
Speaker 2: How about purpose, then, I'm trying to figure out how
Speaker 2: to say this best because like just the concept of purpose, right,
Speaker 2: because we've spoken on this podcast before, you know, with
Speaker 2: people who connect to spirit babies and I can connect
Speaker 2: to like spirit baby souls and things like that and
Speaker 2: say they'll come in and for people who only are
Speaker 2: alive for a few hours, a few days, a few years,
Speaker 2: whatever it is, and that is their purpose to come
Speaker 2: in like that. And it's like sort of like what
Speaker 2: what does purpose mean to you and what does a
Speaker 2: soul mean?
Speaker 3: Does that mean anything?
Speaker 1: So I feel like purpose is a it's like it's
Speaker 1: a it's an individual made concept.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really think as well. In the world we
Speaker 1: live in now, we're so wrapped up in the idea
Speaker 1: of finding a purpose that people will never find one.
Speaker 3: Oh I could not agree, Like I agree about the
Speaker 3: individualism of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think like everyone and there's like this whole
Speaker 1: thing is like everyone tells you that you've got to
Speaker 1: find your purpose and you've got to find this.
Speaker 4: Thing that you're going to love and row around, and
Speaker 4: you're like, well.
Speaker 1: You know, the reality of life is that not everyone
Speaker 1: finds that in terms of the grand scale, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean.
Speaker 4: Like some people like whenever you hear the.
Speaker 1: Term purpose, it's like, oh, it's like it's this business
Speaker 1: I'm going to run, or it's this like mad crazy
Speaker 1: career we're going to do, or like I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: the biggest comedian in the world. I'm going to be
Speaker 1: like the greatest artist and my message is going to
Speaker 1: be put out there and rouh, And you're like, or
Speaker 1: it could be that it's just living a happy life
Speaker 1: with you a few kids and a person that you
Speaker 1: enjoy and going out with the footy on every Sunday
Speaker 1: and enjoying your life. Like I mean, I think like
Speaker 1: the general purpose for everyone is to just enjoy the art. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we get too wrapped up in the idea
Speaker 1: of the giant thing. Then I think in terms of
Speaker 1: your things, like are you mixing the idea of purpose
Speaker 1: and the concept of destiny because I don't believe in
Speaker 1: the idea of that there's a pre dame destiny for anyone, Okay,
Speaker 1: And I think that's kind of thing when you talk
Speaker 1: about someone who's just coming to the world and then
Speaker 1: they disappear, it's like, what was their purpose?
Speaker 4: Well, I don't think there is a purpose. No one
Speaker 4: has a purpose, so you.
Speaker 3: Think it's just complete accident.
Speaker 1: There's no Yeah though, isn't like an accident heaps more
Speaker 1: like don't you think it's like the idea I find
Speaker 1: that me personally, I kind of try to take solace
Speaker 1: in the idea that like life is kind of like
Speaker 1: a card game.
Speaker 3: I choose your own adventure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's like if you get and you just
Speaker 1: get something, so it's like I don't know if you've gambled,
Speaker 1: but like you're playing cards and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: like there's a big thing at the moment. Tim Nacky's
Speaker 1: like this Keywi guy and he's been doing like gambling,
Speaker 1: playing blackjack, and he's been betting ten cents for every
Speaker 1: follower he has on Instagram, right, and he just broke
Speaker 1: a million dollars the other week, and his views are
Speaker 1: getting millions of people because people just been on this
Speaker 1: guy's journey, really loving it and bowing up, and there's
Speaker 1: just it's just funny. It's like you watch the cards
Speaker 1: come out and it's pure chance, and it's like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, we did it. He's gotten. He's one, right,
Speaker 1: and that's a really exciting feeling where like all of sudden,
Speaker 1: the cars is laid the way you want it. Sometimes
Speaker 1: I don't, And that's kind of funny in itself as well,
Speaker 1: because you're like, oh, that sucks, But then when they hit,
Speaker 1: you're like, that's amazing. And I feel like that you
Speaker 1: don't want to take that out of the idea of life,
Speaker 1: that it's just this big mistake that ends up right,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Because.
Speaker 4: That's kind of cool.
Speaker 1: It's like throwing lego pieces in the air and they
Speaker 1: just happen to land as a house.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's cool, But how about like the ripple effect
Speaker 2: of those things, say, because like you know everything, and
Speaker 2: you know how people sit there and go like, does
Speaker 2: everything happen for a reason?
Speaker 3: Is there a reason for it?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah?
Speaker 2: And I try not to ever think too much into
Speaker 2: that because I think that can just fuck with your
Speaker 2: mind and more it works both words.
Speaker 1: If everything happens for a reason for the right then
Speaker 1: everything happens for the reason for the wrong one exactly.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of hard to kind of fathom because
Speaker 1: then you'd be like, oh shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and all the bad things happen, like why is
Speaker 2: all the shit stuff happening to me? But I do
Speaker 2: think that everything has this sort of like ripple effect.
Speaker 2: You know, say something bad happens and it's like, you know,
Speaker 2: something really horrible and something awful, But from that it
Speaker 2: creates this like awareness of something or maybe something really
Speaker 2: amazing comes out of it that creates this ripple effect
Speaker 2: where you help hundreds and thousands of people because of
Speaker 2: the experience that you've had or you know, coming back
Speaker 2: to even like purpose, I agree I always I think
Speaker 2: that this like when people come to me and they're like,
Speaker 2: how do you find your purpose? I can't find my
Speaker 2: purpose in life? And I always say, like, it's more
Speaker 2: of that's like such an individualistic concept when really it's
Speaker 2: more like look at the world, figure out where there's
Speaker 2: a whole, like find sort of. It's more like less
Speaker 2: about what's your purpose in life, and it's like, well,
Speaker 2: how can you be part of the community, how can
Speaker 2: you do you look at life collectively?
Speaker 1: Like that can't Like yeah in a way, but like
Speaker 1: the idea of the ripple effect, I think that people
Speaker 1: just naturally we want to find meaning, Okay, like we
Speaker 1: just always we have to. Yeah, some people more than others.
Speaker 1: And I think that just speaks to something in individual
Speaker 1: intuition and stuff like that, where it's like they will
Speaker 1: find a pattern where there needs to be a pattern, right,
Speaker 1: And it's like I think that that kind of speaks
Speaker 1: to why ripple effects matter. So when you say, like
Speaker 1: a tragic moment happens and then that person is inspired
Speaker 1: to do something amazing, and that is true, but also
Speaker 1: tragic things happen and people are inspired to do things
Speaker 1: that are awful, and it kind of like this could
Speaker 1: get really philosophical for someone who is not.
Speaker 3: You're in the right space.
Speaker 1: But it's like, do you think that there's inherently good
Speaker 1: and inherently bad people?
Speaker 3: No? I've asked this question a lot because it fucks
Speaker 3: with me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because do you think Well, if you say that
Speaker 1: you think there is, then then like people are bad,
Speaker 1: so the worst people in history. It's easy for us
Speaker 1: to be like they were bad people to them, they
Speaker 1: would have thought that they weren't. You know, now we
Speaker 1: have therapy, a lot of people are realizing that they're
Speaker 1: not that great. Back then, they would have been like,
Speaker 1: this is the way to do it. Yeah, had a purpose.
Speaker 1: They thought that they were chasing when they did the
Speaker 1: awful things in the world.
Speaker 3: They're like my land, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Like that's mine. These people need to go and that's
Speaker 1: going to make all these but you know what I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like everything has another side to the coin. I
Speaker 1: think have you ever.
Speaker 3: Like was your family religious, have you ever been religious
Speaker 3: at all? Or did you just grow up.
Speaker 1: With like nah, I mean my mum had pictures of
Speaker 1: Jesus around, but I mean everyone did it the nineties,
Speaker 1: Like my dad's Muslim. Yeah, so like that's his religion.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I have not been a very religious person,
Speaker 1: but I find the I think it's a fascinating story.
Speaker 2: Religion is such an interesting one to me. I once,
Speaker 2: like a few weeks ago, I asked the question, like
Speaker 2: if you could know one truth, like what would the
Speaker 2: truth be? And mine was like, religion, I just would
Speaker 2: want to know. I'd want to be a line. I
Speaker 2: feel like you do well and that's it, but I
Speaker 2: just like I just want the sort of like I
Speaker 2: want to I just want to be there when Jesus
Speaker 2: was walking around.
Speaker 3: If he was or whatever was doing I witness. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I want to fucking see it.
Speaker 2: I want to see the moment where it was, like
Speaker 2: the things that happened, the people sitting down writing about it,
Speaker 2: the stories, and then you know, other religions as well,
Speaker 2: because I agree they're like the same same shit, different
Speaker 2: tale basically.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's like this is like parallels to Egyptian folklore,
Speaker 1: and like there's all that kind of vibe that like
Speaker 1: there's through lines in a lot of these stories, which
Speaker 1: can also play to the idea that everything's connected, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like you can find a bat in.
Speaker 2: That if you wanted to, well, then I was going
Speaker 2: to say, right, they've even connected like the story like
Speaker 2: the Bible and the story of Jesus and everything with astrology.
Speaker 1: Well yeah I've seen that. Yeah, but see, even that's
Speaker 1: fascinating because it's all northern hemisphere.
Speaker 4: That's the thing that where like a lot of religions fall.
Speaker 1: Apart where it's like, yeah, sick, you know how good
Speaker 1: was no where You're like, yeah, but you didn't add
Speaker 1: the kangaroo to the story until the night, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. You're trying to tell me that this
Speaker 1: guy's wandering around in the Middle East, and it also
Speaker 1: happens in the most popular like an area of the
Speaker 1: world that was the most populated and kind of like
Speaker 1: flourish or whatever. But it's like you're telling me these
Speaker 1: guys wandering around and he's not like, hey, you guys,
Speaker 1: want to know something fucking crazy. There's actually another country,
Speaker 1: big land all the way down. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Like I also think that, you know, so many people
Speaker 1: do good things on the back of faith. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: such a cop out thing to say, but I think
Speaker 1: that's quite nice. Yeah, a lot of things because they
Speaker 1: believe in the high purpose and there is a God
Speaker 1: and that keeps them kind of wanting to help people
Speaker 1: at that and that's nice and that in itself is beautiful.
Speaker 3: Yeah, even if they're doing it for someone else, at
Speaker 3: least they're doing.
Speaker 1: It great sick because I mean I'm not doing it,
Speaker 1: you know, so I can't sit here and really like
Speaker 1: rip on it that much when they're out here helping
Speaker 1: people and I'm like doing nothing.
Speaker 3: Is that just a description of your life?
Speaker 1: That pretty much? But that kind that's like you talk
Speaker 1: about purpose before, like like sometimes that's what gives people
Speaker 1: some purpose. And if it's like and if it's for
Speaker 1: a good kind of thing and you're helping out people,
Speaker 1: then like, oh am I to be a dick.
Speaker 3: About it totally, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I might not think that you'll take like that
Speaker 1: you can see their people in you're doing spirits, But
Speaker 1: if it's making people's lives nice and it's okay, then
Speaker 1: I guess there's another is like, well what care.
Speaker 3: Is totally That's what I think to an extent.
Speaker 1: I think like there's someones where you're like you're going
Speaker 1: to ruin the intellect of people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Okay, well, let's talk about that.
Speaker 2: Let's discuss so right, there are people who say, your
Speaker 2: mates going to a medium and they've like, you know,
Speaker 2: had this reading, they've connected to their grandfather and like
Speaker 2: he said all of this stuff and they're sitting there
Speaker 2: going there's just no way that they knew.
Speaker 1: I think everyone will find a way that something will
Speaker 1: link in many ways.
Speaker 3: You reckon.
Speaker 1: I think, so, like, no one's walking into a medium
Speaker 1: mostly no one's going in paying the money, booking the service,
Speaker 1: and having the conversation without in the back of their
Speaker 1: mind or even fully going I want to have that experience.
Speaker 2: So do you think it's like another human like being
Speaker 2: able to sort of?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And I think there's an element of like, I know,
Speaker 1: you did an episode on intuition. Yeah, you're talking about
Speaker 1: all these different levels of intuition. Yeah, I think there
Speaker 1: is an element of like group think. Yeah, and like
Speaker 1: we can sit on a wavelength like you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like, I don't no doubt that a lot
Speaker 1: of these meetiums and stuff, like I'm experiencing this moment,
Speaker 1: I'm having this experience, But I think the person receiving
Speaker 1: the information is kind of doing a little bit of
Speaker 1: connecting the dots in the same way that I'm like,
Speaker 1: you can find you can find a pattern in anything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, give me enough time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll make a reason something's connected.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Interesting, I think there's I think it's just all of
Speaker 3: the above.
Speaker 2: I always just think everything's like an all of the above,
Speaker 2: like even because and like when I was still it's
Speaker 2: quite skeptical. And I mean to a degree I am
Speaker 2: even though I can see things, but I still sit
Speaker 2: there and go like, is my like, is there a
Speaker 2: reason my mind's making this up? Like and because my
Speaker 2: story was always just like I'm making this up.
Speaker 3: But then it just came to this. It was this
Speaker 3: thing where I.
Speaker 2: Was like, there's actually just no way that I could
Speaker 2: possibly make these sort of certain things up. Or I'd
Speaker 2: be talking to someone and all of a sudden, I'd
Speaker 2: like see their dad and I'd see exactly how he died,
Speaker 2: and I have no idea, I've never met this person
Speaker 2: before in my life. But then I just am like
Speaker 2: shown all of these crazy details. I feel it in
Speaker 2: my body and I'm sitting there and we're having a
Speaker 2: conversation and then they'll like bring up something and it's
Speaker 2: rare that I'll never usually just be like, hey, by
Speaker 2: the way, like stranger, your dad, Dad's chatting to me.
Speaker 2: He just showed me how he died. It was pretty
Speaker 2: fucked up. Would you like all the details?
Speaker 1: Is sure? Just getting my coffee?
Speaker 3: No, But it always comes up in a way where
Speaker 3: you're like.
Speaker 1: What you've just described me there sounds like it's fucking
Speaker 1: awful experiencing, you know what I mean. I can make
Speaker 1: up enough horrific thoughts in my head, you know, intrusive thoughts.
Speaker 1: Walk a past the lawmar and be like, what if
Speaker 1: I put my hand in that? But yours is just
Speaker 1: like a like a rollodex of just like that sounds
Speaker 1: so unpleasant.
Speaker 4: It's like I love it.
Speaker 2: It's like I don't know, I kind of do love it,
Speaker 2: but it's I always question it, and it's always like
Speaker 2: and I think that's good.
Speaker 3: I think we should always question everything.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you this, because you're asking me my
Speaker 1: views on stuff? Do you have an inner monologue? You
Speaker 1: know how they reckon? Like like a lot of people.
Speaker 2: Don't like really constantly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so like because you know how they've done that
Speaker 1: they did, Like there's like some statin people like a
Speaker 1: lot of people.
Speaker 3: Don't have any Most people don't.
Speaker 1: I was like, what the fuck? I know who you're
Speaker 1: talking to? It in your head the whole time, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? What happens when they see something
Speaker 1: like I'd don't understand how it works? Like my mate
Speaker 1: Carle says he doesn't have one, and I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: but then what happens when you see someone more past
Speaker 1: doing something really weird? Do not say to hisself, well,
Speaker 1: that's fucking crazy or do you just have to vocally
Speaker 1: say that out loud?
Speaker 3: Or do you just are you fucking blank up there? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Like are you just a bit of it? Like it's
Speaker 1: just a guy patted piano or something the whole time
Speaker 1: you're walking through your day.
Speaker 2: But then there are people who they don't get. Do
Speaker 2: you see things in your head like images, like.
Speaker 1: A memory or like imagining? So yeah, I've got an imagination.
Speaker 3: Yeah you're not everyone that, surely no.
Speaker 1: And because I did this, were they what are they like?
Speaker 1: Even it's like you know, because my first thought then
Speaker 1: was to be like, well, they're they're serial killers, but
Speaker 1: then I was like, no, serial killers are creative, so
Speaker 1: they're like they would have an imagination. Yeah, so like
Speaker 1: what are they like? They're just not That goes back
Speaker 1: to the simulation thing. They're just a non playable character
Speaker 1: that's just got there. They've got their lines that they
Speaker 1: say through life, like like a puppet. But that's crazy
Speaker 1: to me, right, So, like people don't have one, but
Speaker 1: you have one. Yeah, So when you hear something one,
Speaker 1: is it your voice saying that to you or is
Speaker 1: it a completely different sounding.
Speaker 3: Voice, different sounding voice, because that's different.
Speaker 1: I feel like in my head, I can't hear someone
Speaker 1: else's voice. Yeah, okay, so like even if I'm having
Speaker 1: that thing, you know when you're like, leave an annoying
Speaker 1: situation and then you make it, or you're about to
Speaker 1: go to a confronting situation and you decide to act
Speaker 1: out the conversation so that you can win.
Speaker 3: Yeah one hundred percent, and you're like.
Speaker 4: You get angry as well, and you're like, why am
Speaker 4: I angry?
Speaker 1: I just acted out an entire confrontation and then you
Speaker 1: have it, nothing even happens, and you're like, I'm a
Speaker 1: fucking coward. I didn't even do what I wanted to say.
Speaker 3: I said nothing, walked away, and that was not how
Speaker 3: I died to go.
Speaker 1: But like when I do that, it's still me playing
Speaker 1: the other characters, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I just imagine like shut on this side, like how
Speaker 3: dare you do it? And then you jump on the other.
Speaker 1: Side, and it's like, I'm not imagining like Darren's voice,
Speaker 1: It's still me. So you're a voice is if I'm
Speaker 1: acting it out out loud and then everyone gets a
Speaker 1: different boy voice. Yeah, but in my head, I don't
Speaker 1: the other character. And I don't know if anyone else
Speaker 1: is like this, but like I don't have another voice
Speaker 1: in there, they don't sound different. Yeah, even when it's
Speaker 1: me arguing with myself, obviously it's still me. It's not
Speaker 1: a different time. Yeah, yeah, it's the same thing.
Speaker 3: Interesting.
Speaker 1: It's like when you hear a person coming through whatever
Speaker 1: or the aliens, is it a different sounding voice in
Speaker 1: your head?
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is what it's actually.
Speaker 2: That is crazy andandk yeah that was my first real
Speaker 2: tell because for ages, like growing up, I would see
Speaker 2: things and I would hear things. But when you're used
Speaker 2: to your own head, you're used to your own head, right,
Speaker 2: so it's hard to question a lot of things when
Speaker 2: all you know is what you know, and all you know,
Speaker 2: is like, you know, even us having this conversation now,
Speaker 2: and it's like people don't have fucking voices in their head.
Speaker 2: People don't speak to themselves. People don't like imagine an
Speaker 2: apple when they think of an apple, like that's insane,
Speaker 2: but they're so used to that they think of We
Speaker 2: tell them that we hear shit all the time. Go, no,
Speaker 2: wonder you guys have fucking like anxiety and ship or
Speaker 2: like they.
Speaker 1: But would be nice to not have anything I can't.
Speaker 3: Actually I kind of love being in my head, Like
Speaker 3: I figured, you know what you know, I know what
Speaker 3: to know.
Speaker 1: That's right. Show me a person who doesn't haven't been
Speaker 1: a monologue, who's sat. They all seem to be fucking
Speaker 1: start getting they're the normal. Maybe they're the normal.
Speaker 4: And us having conversations with that, because what do you
Speaker 4: think about it?
Speaker 1: I was like, I having a conversation your right ed,
Speaker 1: were you fucking crazy? And life?
Speaker 3: At least I'm having conversations with other people.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's not try it's the village crazy in the
Speaker 1: episode where it's like the guy who's only talking to
Speaker 1: himself is the crazy one.
Speaker 2: But so when I first started hearing voices in my head.
Speaker 2: That's when I went, oh, hold on, that's not my
Speaker 2: It was like when my best friend's dad passed away
Speaker 2: and I kept he kept coming to me. He would
Speaker 2: sit on my front seat in my car when I
Speaker 2: was driving, which is often what happens. Like they'll come
Speaker 2: to me when I'm driving, often having a shower, like reckless.
Speaker 1: But it's negligent behavior, like you know, especially if they're
Speaker 1: a modern spirit. I know how cars work. You're not
Speaker 1: like the guy who died from you know, falling off
Speaker 1: his horse in the twelve hundreds or whatever. You know,
Speaker 1: a car works. Don't appear in the passenger set.
Speaker 4: This is a dangerous situation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm not free on the other side, because.
Speaker 1: That's what's going to happen when we have a car accident.
Speaker 3: That's why they're coming in. I feel like I'm going
Speaker 3: to come join you. I'm bored. Yeah, I'm lonely.
Speaker 2: No, but like they'll come and sit in my car
Speaker 2: on like sit in the front seat, and then it's
Speaker 2: not like us having a conversation like this. I'm just like, oh,
Speaker 2: there they are, They're right there. I know this person's there.
Speaker 2: And then I hear them talking in my head, and
Speaker 2: because they give information to me, not through just speaking,
Speaker 2: and because I would just hear his voice, and of
Speaker 2: course I was like, well, I know his voice, so
Speaker 2: I've voice started talking to me, and I started answering back.
Speaker 2: And then I realized that I could hear other voices
Speaker 2: and communicate with other people, and they all had different voices,
Speaker 2: and depending on who I was talking to. If I
Speaker 2: was talking to a dead person, like someone who had passed,
Speaker 2: I would hear their voice. They would show up human
Speaker 2: how they were in this life. They'd show me images
Speaker 2: of things. They'd often show me a literal picture that existed,
Speaker 2: and I would explain the picture, and then the person
Speaker 2: would go and they'd find and they'd say, I've got
Speaker 2: that photo that you're explaining, and then they would send
Speaker 2: me the photo down to the detail of like the
Speaker 2: color of the table, what they were wearing, who was
Speaker 2: in the photo. And so they show me things that
Speaker 2: will connect to the other person. Yeah, but then then
Speaker 2: you start talking to fucking aliens and they speak very
Speaker 2: fucking differently. They communicate in such a different way to
Speaker 2: a human, and then you start and then like bringing
Speaker 2: in angels as well, They fucking speak differently.
Speaker 3: As well.
Speaker 2: And so I've got these like I literally hear their
Speaker 2: voices so different, and I know who they are, showed
Speaker 2: an image. I can see where they are, what they're doing,
Speaker 2: where they're standing, and like it's it is fucking crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sounds like I was experiencing that. I'd be like,
Speaker 1: this is awful, But what do you You've just got
Speaker 1: to smile on your face.
Speaker 4: It's pretty sick, man, Like this sounds like awful.
Speaker 3: But it seems to help people.
Speaker 2: That's the insane thing, right, So what do you what
Speaker 2: do you okay, give me like your analysis, Like what
Speaker 2: do you think I'm experiencing? And like I'm not, And
Speaker 2: I'm like, so just literally like I'm in a doctor's office,
Speaker 2: like I'm open to hearing.
Speaker 1: Well, I just say I think that there's like an
Speaker 1: element of it, like you've just got a really heightened imagination. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I think that maybe
Speaker 1: if we go back to when I was saying, I
Speaker 1: feel like people can flow on a wavelength. Yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: you're just a very hyper intuitive, empathetic person.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: And the way this is manifesting in your mind is
Speaker 1: through the idea of here's a person related to the people,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, Like you're because you
Speaker 1: seem to be interacting and again I'm not a like
Speaker 1: I'm not a psych or a medium, but like you're
Speaker 1: interacting with a person, then you have this thing come through.
Speaker 1: It's a person relating to them. It's important to them,
Speaker 1: and you've got all these messages that leak to them.
Speaker 1: Kind of feels like to me that you're like you're
Speaker 1: empathizing with a person and there's a piece of you
Speaker 1: that's like I want to help this person. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: the way that manifests in your mind is through a
Speaker 1: shared whether it's a traumatic experience of loss, whatever, and
Speaker 1: you're able to articulate a scenario or a thing or
Speaker 1: an item that will give them some form of solace
Speaker 1: or relatability to a shared experience of life.
Speaker 3: Do you want to know?
Speaker 2: Another element is when like the spirit comes to me,
Speaker 2: I have no idea who they are.
Speaker 3: They like I've had them.
Speaker 2: I had this one like young girl come to me
Speaker 2: while I was like literally in the shower and she
Speaker 2: had this and it's happened a few times. They've come
Speaker 2: randomly when I'm just doing things and they're like, you
Speaker 2: need to get this message to this person. And it's
Speaker 2: just like I don't even know the person. I just
Speaker 2: know that I have to put it on my Instagram
Speaker 2: and say, I've had this person come in. They smell
Speaker 2: like this. They've told me this. They this is how
Speaker 2: they died. This is their name, this is their age.
Speaker 1: They smell like, mate, well.
Speaker 3: It's fucking weird.
Speaker 2: I'll like literally one time I was sitting there and
Speaker 2: I smelled the strongest perfume and I'm like, and I'm
Speaker 2: going around, I'm smelling my fucking kids.
Speaker 3: I'm like, what is that smell?
Speaker 2: And then they came and they shared all this information
Speaker 2: with me, put it on my Instagram stories and like
Speaker 2: that one for instance, it wasn't even someone who followed me.
Speaker 3: It was someone who followed me.
Speaker 2: They it was like their mum or it was their dad, right,
Speaker 2: and it was like a message for their dad and
Speaker 2: because it was like his wife or something like that
Speaker 2: who passed away, and the message and the message to
Speaker 2: me was so random and so weird. But this was
Speaker 2: a guy who like he was like you, he was like,
Speaker 2: there's no fucking way, this shit is bullshit, and he
Speaker 2: was like in tears and he was like I can't
Speaker 2: believe it, like the name, the nickname, the everything, and even.
Speaker 3: I'm always like that do for them.
Speaker 2: It just it was a time where they just really
Speaker 2: needed to hear from this person where they felt really
Speaker 2: like I don't know, you know when you have those
Speaker 2: days and you're just like feeling really shitty, you're feeling.
Speaker 3: Really like down about life, where you're going what you're doing.
Speaker 2: Like imagine if you know you'd had someone really close
Speaker 2: to you pass away and you just wish you could
Speaker 2: have their.
Speaker 1: Advice was that one last well.
Speaker 2: Even just like their advice, so it's like your mum
Speaker 2: or something, and you're like, I just I'm in a
Speaker 2: time where all I wish was that my mum was
Speaker 2: here and could give me advice right now. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: often those times.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then that that also goes back to where
Speaker 1: I feel like you find a pattern to soothe your being. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you're in this awful
Speaker 1: moment and you're providing a service off here's a thing
Speaker 1: yeah at all or a friend of a friend or
Speaker 1: whatever is like, well, if that passage can link to
Speaker 1: this pattern, you know what I mean, And like that, yeah,
Speaker 1: I kind of still feel because even if, like, let's
Speaker 1: say I did believe it. Okay, let's say I think
Speaker 1: that it is one hundred percent trough and there's spirits
Speaker 1: wandering around at the moment and it's a shared experience.
Speaker 4: My next thing would be why, like why?
Speaker 1: Like, Yeah, how fucking boring must the other side be
Speaker 1: that you're here?
Speaker 4: You're telling me there's aliens out here doing some shit.
Speaker 4: Where am I going?
Speaker 1: First? What are they up to? That's what I'm doing.
Speaker 4: I'm exploring the vastness of.
Speaker 1: The universe that I've never been able to see and
Speaker 1: was never even going to be able to see being
Speaker 1: stuck on this floating rock.
Speaker 4: Why are you?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 4: My message would be to.
Speaker 1: The spirits that A're talking to, you would be leave
Speaker 1: this lady alone over there into the other side.
Speaker 4: So the long, never ending meadow of bliss and happiness
Speaker 4: where you never feel pain.
Speaker 1: Again, and you get to live out your wildest.
Speaker 4: Dreams and the most beautiful hunks.
Speaker 1: And goddesses of the world are ready to get to
Speaker 1: indulge every sexual fantasy and desire you've ever wanted. You
Speaker 1: can manifest anything you want on the other side, and
Speaker 1: you're back here sending a message to Steve.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're sitting in what do you do.
Speaker 4: Live your afterlife?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: True, I think that's an important message to send to them.
Speaker 2: I mean, they do say that it's less and will
Speaker 2: wrap up soon, but it's less that they're fucking just
Speaker 2: hanging around here and they're like chilling on earth and
Speaker 2: they're like, I'm just here to help out.
Speaker 3: My loved ones and I just want to help them through.
Speaker 2: It's more like fragments of them, because we're sort of
Speaker 2: like kind of fragments of each other where sort of
Speaker 2: fragments as far as like you know, we're not just
Speaker 2: like a human body, a brain in a body, a
Speaker 2: soul in a body, you know, and especially as we
Speaker 2: move on to the.
Speaker 4: Other DNA as a bit of everyone through everyone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like, you know, on a very energetic level,
Speaker 2: it's the same thing. It's more like it's like a
Speaker 2: fragment of them left behind. It's like a memory of
Speaker 2: them left behind, and that memory is like necessary, you know,
Speaker 2: for them to be there to sort of help other people.
Speaker 2: I don't know, like it's just sort of like there's
Speaker 2: no and again, like I don't have the fucking answers.
Speaker 3: That's why.
Speaker 1: But then maybe it's, like I said, like, then I
Speaker 1: get back to my little theory where it's like, maybe
Speaker 1: it's not so much a spirit. You're going to say
Speaker 1: it's fragments of people, But maybe it's not so much
Speaker 1: a spirit, and it is this shared psycho shared psychological
Speaker 1: intuitive experience. Yeah, I'm trying to bridge a gap from
Speaker 1: my skepticism to your psychic abilities. I'm like, maybe that's
Speaker 1: the bridging of the gap that I could maybe potentially comprehend.
Speaker 3: You can float around with. We're all fragments. Some people
Speaker 3: can read the fragments.
Speaker 1: I don't know about these guys, but fragments, Okay, I
Speaker 1: get how it dust works.
Speaker 3: We're all just a bunch of atoms floating around.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Well, thank you very much for having this conversation
Speaker 2: with me.
Speaker 3: I mean I think we got through like two questions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a bit tangent, but you know, Hifel wasn't rude
Speaker 1: to people that.
Speaker 3: No, that's not the point at all. And that's what
Speaker 3: I like.
Speaker 2: My whole thing is one like, you know, even if
Speaker 2: this is a big giant spiritual experience, we're obviously here
Speaker 2: to be human and so you know, often people like
Speaker 2: in the spiritual realm, and like people who work, you know,
Speaker 2: with the spirits and stuff, they're trying to like escape
Speaker 2: being human. They're trying to like get away from being human.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, the whole point obviously we're here,
Speaker 2: We're in this human body. So I love like just
Speaker 2: the grounding even of having these conversations and being like,
Speaker 2: well even what you said, like there's an end date,
Speaker 2: just fucking.
Speaker 4: Even if you think there's an alf life act as
Speaker 4: if there isn't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you, Shad.
Speaker 2: Maybe you're the like maybe before we know it, you'll
Speaker 2: be the village crazy shadow.
Speaker 1: Well, like I said, it's not a job for a man.
Speaker 1: Remember we like the Vans. He's scary.
Speaker 2: Oh true, we'll see, we'll see, like adding on like
Speaker 2: a street corner.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: But