WEBVTT - A Conversation with a Sceptic - Shad Wicka 0:00:05.921 --> 0:00:07.281 Apote Production. 0:00:11.001 --> 0:00:13.961 I'm Mickie Fisher, and welcome to the Village Crazy Lady. 0:00:14.361 --> 0:00:17.480 People are talking to me and they are not physically 0:00:17.521 --> 0:00:20.800 in this room, so just strap in for that. 0:00:21.041 --> 0:00:23.201 Can't call me crazy, so I said it first. 0:00:23.361 --> 0:00:26.160 Whoever's trying to come through, whatever messages need to come through, like, 0:00:26.281 --> 0:00:30.001 just bring it on. Let's do it Crazy Crazy Crazy, 0:00:30.281 --> 0:00:36.440 The Village Crazy Lady Podcast. Hello, gorgeous legends, and welcome 0:00:36.481 --> 0:00:39.081 to another episode of the Village Crazy Lady. 0:00:39.601 --> 0:00:41.960 This week. I don't have a Village Crazy Lady in 0:00:41.961 --> 0:00:42.560 the room with me. 0:00:42.881 --> 0:00:47.681 I have I have a comedian, Shadwicker, who has been 0:00:47.881 --> 0:00:50.441 kind of dragged in here because he works in the studio. 0:00:50.641 --> 0:00:54.001 And I've been saying for a while, I need you 0:00:54.081 --> 0:00:57.761 on the podcast because I want to do some like 0:00:57.761 --> 0:00:59.961 like you're would you say you're a skeptic. 0:01:00.121 --> 0:01:06.121 Yeah, okay, not even a little bit. I'm a cynic. 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:08.161 I'm a synic by nature, and I'm a synic by 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:09.280 trade being a comedian. 0:01:09.401 --> 0:01:13.360 So I feel like, yeah, you can't have a spiritual 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:15.361 awakening because it will like fuck with your whole like 0:01:15.601 --> 0:01:16.200 comic thing. 0:01:16.481 --> 0:01:18.201 No exactly. And I worked in like I worked in 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:21.640 radio for many years and like we do segments with psychics. 0:01:21.961 --> 0:01:24.681 No one like quite like you, though, Mickey, Okay, no 0:01:24.721 --> 0:01:25.441 one quite. 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:26.361 Like you in what way? 0:01:26.601 --> 0:01:29.041 Well, I've never met someone that speaks to aliens. Oh yeah, 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:32.281 that was meeting you and hearing that. I was like, 0:01:32.321 --> 0:01:35.401 this is different. And the thing is is like as well, 0:01:35.441 --> 0:01:38.241 like I'm a skeptic, but I love crazy, Okay, Like 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:41.121 I love her crazy, you know what I mean? Crazy 0:01:41.241 --> 0:01:43.560 Village crazy lady is a great like thing. But it's 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:46.481 like I feel like it's it's so feminine. Village crazy 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:49.001 Lady sounds so fun, whereas like the crazy bloke is 0:01:49.001 --> 0:01:50.481 the guy screaming at you on the street with his 0:01:50.521 --> 0:01:52.721 shirt off you let's not go near him. 0:01:54.201 --> 0:01:56.521 The village crazy lady, she'll like look after you. 0:01:56.641 --> 0:01:59.520 Yeah, listen to the village ideas that guy I don't 0:01:59.561 --> 0:02:01.721 want to be anywhy, yeah, absolutely? 0:02:02.441 --> 0:02:03.801 Okay, all right, well I love this. 0:02:03.881 --> 0:02:07.561 So you're a skeptic, but like, don't mind a bit 0:02:07.601 --> 0:02:08.201 of crazy. 0:02:08.761 --> 0:02:10.281 Yeah, I love a crazy story. 0:02:10.561 --> 0:02:11.561 How about aliens? 0:02:12.001 --> 0:02:17.921 Aliens' I think that's probably where part of my curiosity 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:20.081 gets peaked, because it's. 0:02:20.001 --> 0:02:22.881 Like the idea of people on the idea of the 0:02:22.921 --> 0:02:23.921 other side. 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:26.401 And stuff just doesn't resonate with me at all, So 0:02:26.441 --> 0:02:29.041 it's just the dead for you. Yeah, that stuff I'm 0:02:29.081 --> 0:02:32.121 not I'm not on board with. But the possibility of 0:02:32.201 --> 0:02:34.520 alien beings and stuff, I'm like that stuff. I'm a 0:02:34.561 --> 0:02:37.081 little bit like, Okay, we're we're a bit disproven here. 0:02:37.921 --> 0:02:40.241 Maybe I'll give you a maybe maybe. 0:02:40.441 --> 0:02:44.121 See, I think like the concept that we are it, yeah, 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:46.840 and like we're the only species in yeah, I think 0:02:46.841 --> 0:02:47.561 the universe. 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:52.361 I think that's ludicrous surely because I also just don't 0:02:52.361 --> 0:02:53.041 think any of us. 0:02:53.001 --> 0:02:55.800 Are that special a hundred percent. 0:02:56.881 --> 0:02:59.001 See, I agree with that, And that's where I think, 0:02:59.081 --> 0:03:00.840 like humans are so egotistical in. 0:03:00.761 --> 0:03:02.560 The way that they're just like we are it. 0:03:03.081 --> 0:03:05.441 There's no way that there's any other life because like 0:03:05.761 --> 0:03:06.800 doesn't get better than us. 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:09.160 And yet like you look at us and we're the worst. 0:03:09.761 --> 0:03:12.321 Well we're the best though as well, you know what 0:03:12.361 --> 0:03:14.761 I mean. Like there's wearing. Yeah, there's reasons wear in 0:03:14.841 --> 0:03:15.881 charge and not the dogs. 0:03:16.561 --> 0:03:19.601 I don't know how you're dog before don't think. 0:03:19.361 --> 0:03:22.041 We're pretty cool, Like I think dogs are pretty stoked 0:03:22.041 --> 0:03:24.041 that we're in charge. True, you know what I mean, 0:03:24.041 --> 0:03:26.561 because they're like that's my that's my mate, what about. 0:03:26.401 --> 0:03:29.120 Like, what about like other alien species. 0:03:29.121 --> 0:03:30.761 Do you think that they look down on us and 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:33.281 they go, oh my goodness, those cute little humans. 0:03:33.641 --> 0:03:36.921 Well, I'm in two minds as to whether they've even 0:03:37.121 --> 0:03:40.961 spotted us. You reckon, because I think there's life, right, yeah, yeah, 0:03:41.001 --> 0:03:43.801 I think there's definitely life, But the definition of life 0:03:43.961 --> 0:03:47.481 is on such a broad spectrum, because like life is 0:03:47.641 --> 0:03:51.801 a little microbe floating around in a Petri dish, right, 0:03:51.841 --> 0:03:52.441 Like that's life? 0:03:52.521 --> 0:03:52.720 Yeah? 0:03:52.761 --> 0:03:55.961 Yeah, yeah, So like I think that definitely exists out 0:03:56.001 --> 0:03:57.281 there in the universe, but. 0:03:57.361 --> 0:03:59.121 Not like an alien looking thing, but. 0:03:59.121 --> 0:04:01.561 In terms of like, yeah, like a half octopus looking 0:04:01.801 --> 0:04:05.441 thing wandering around being like Jesus here means are up 0:04:05.441 --> 0:04:08.081 to some mischief. I don't know, because I'm like, like, 0:04:08.361 --> 0:04:11.241 at some point, you've got to think that if they're 0:04:11.241 --> 0:04:15.001 in any way similar to us, okay, right, even if 0:04:15.041 --> 0:04:16.881 it's like the idea that they're watching us live our 0:04:16.921 --> 0:04:19.281 lives like a TV show. I mean, I don't know 0:04:19.281 --> 0:04:21.200 about you, but after the third season, I start to 0:04:21.201 --> 0:04:23.721 get really bored. Yeah, you know, and I find it 0:04:23.721 --> 0:04:26.601 hard to believe that where like the Friends or Seinfeld 0:04:26.601 --> 0:04:28.320 of the universe, where it's like you can get ten 0:04:28.361 --> 0:04:31.241 seasons out of us, although they're probably going with like 0:04:31.241 --> 0:04:32.881 they're looking at the world now and being like God, 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:34.801 they're going with the war idea again. This is like 0:04:36.601 --> 0:04:37.520 we're going to do this again. 0:04:37.801 --> 0:04:39.481 We did this like four seasons. 0:04:39.681 --> 0:04:41.321 These guys get some new ideas, but they. 0:04:41.201 --> 0:04:43.041 Don't even remember how it ended last time. 0:04:44.361 --> 0:04:46.200 The same people are involved as well. That's crazy. 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:48.441 But that's where I feel like if they are watching us, 0:04:48.481 --> 0:04:52.081 like you know, we're a television series, they're like, their technology, right, 0:04:52.201 --> 0:04:55.400 is like I mean even scientists say this, it's like 0:04:55.681 --> 0:05:02.961 galactic species. Their technology is fifty thousand years. 0:05:01.841 --> 0:05:04.681 Beyond ours as far as like in advance, more advance 0:05:04.681 --> 0:05:05.121 than now. 0:05:05.081 --> 0:05:07.440 Because the idea is like with that, James Webb tells 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:09.241 her that they're like they looked back and they reckon, 0:05:09.281 --> 0:05:11.320 I can pretty much see the Big Bang. So you go, 0:05:11.401 --> 0:05:13.841 how long's universe existed? You look into the sky and 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:16.721 you see a star. The odds are that stars already 0:05:16.721 --> 0:05:19.521 dead because by the time the light of that star 0:05:19.681 --> 0:05:22.881 hits you, it's been an X amount of years. So like, yeah, 0:05:22.961 --> 0:05:24.880 if you did, if there was someone living all that, 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:26.400 That's the other reason why I find it kind of 0:05:26.401 --> 0:05:28.880 also hard to see that they're watching us, because like 0:05:28.921 --> 0:05:30.281 you know, I mean, you get a TV series, you 0:05:30.281 --> 0:05:32.801 want to watch every episode tonight. Yeah, yeah, but they've 0:05:32.801 --> 0:05:34.961 got to wait fifty thousand years for the light come 0:05:35.001 --> 0:05:39.041 to them. They're is such a high delay that's happening 0:05:39.121 --> 0:05:41.281 on Earth. They're all the way over there. 0:05:41.081 --> 0:05:43.601 But their technology is so good it can probably. 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:44.801 That's maybe that physics. 0:05:44.841 --> 0:05:47.841 They can't make physics, you know, maybe they can, though 0:05:47.921 --> 0:05:51.201 this is human physics. They're fucking alien physics. They're like, 0:05:51.361 --> 0:05:52.960 you primitive bastards. 0:05:53.081 --> 0:05:56.200 Yeah, I mean maybe, and then if they are watching men, 0:05:56.361 --> 0:05:58.241 If there are aliens right now and they are watching 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:02.721 us what we're doing, this is gross negligence, Like sitting 0:06:02.761 --> 0:06:05.281 here and watching what we're doing right now and being 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:06.841 like it's like these people that go, you know how 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:09.561 there's like all that theory. They're like, oh, aliens came 0:06:09.601 --> 0:06:12.760 and built the pyramids. Aliens came and built the pyramids, 0:06:12.801 --> 0:06:14.481 and then and then they left, and like now the 0:06:14.481 --> 0:06:16.001 pyramids are just sitting where their off and I was like, 0:06:16.401 --> 0:06:18.281 how does that even make any sense? And they came 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:21.640 down they saw primitive man who was still like in 0:06:21.681 --> 0:06:23.681 society and stuff, and went, hey, look we can build 0:06:23.681 --> 0:06:24.961 a big triangle. What do you think of that? That's 0:06:24.961 --> 0:06:27.801 pretty sick? And we're like, wow, that is amazing. They go, yeah, 0:06:27.801 --> 0:06:31.041 he's he makes a food anyway, See, you have fun, 0:06:31.161 --> 0:06:33.681 enjoy trying to come back. You're going to come and 0:06:33.761 --> 0:06:35.921 check in on how it was going at all? Just 0:06:35.961 --> 0:06:38.321 here you go bye, And then like if they are. 0:06:38.241 --> 0:06:40.081 Watching the whole time, look at what we're doing. Now 0:06:40.681 --> 0:06:41.521 this is negligent. 0:06:41.721 --> 0:06:44.201 We're like, it's like giving a baby and some beers 0:06:44.201 --> 0:06:44.801 and chucking. 0:06:44.601 --> 0:06:46.640 Him at the steering wheel of the Car's happened. 0:06:47.401 --> 0:06:47.961 You'll be good. 0:06:48.121 --> 0:06:50.640 But is that is that like adding like an element 0:06:50.761 --> 0:06:53.801 of entertainment to their own television if we're imagining this 0:06:53.841 --> 0:06:56.001 as like a telling vision series, Like if you were 0:06:56.001 --> 0:06:59.440 making a reality show right and you're producing it, you 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:01.681 would fuck with the people that are like in the show, 0:07:01.721 --> 0:07:03.161 would you not just say entertainment? 0:07:03.521 --> 0:07:06.721 Truman Show style? But see, then you get into the 0:07:06.841 --> 0:07:08.921 idea of like, you know, would you think like I've 0:07:08.961 --> 0:07:10.921 got I've got mates that think we're in a simulation. 0:07:11.321 --> 0:07:12.561 Oh really you know what I mean? 0:07:12.601 --> 0:07:14.641 They're like, man, it's just all a simulation, mate. 0:07:14.881 --> 0:07:18.081 How many how much like have they smoked before they start. 0:07:19.281 --> 0:07:23.001 The people smoke taps. It's like, yeah, I just think 0:07:23.001 --> 0:07:26.401 there's so many variables. I think it's fun to explore 0:07:26.441 --> 0:07:29.641 the ideas. Yeah, but in terms of whether I believe 0:07:29.681 --> 0:07:33.121 any of them is a whole another concept, because I 0:07:33.161 --> 0:07:36.121 think I think that I'm pretty I mean, I talk 0:07:36.201 --> 0:07:36.641 for a living. 0:07:36.921 --> 0:07:37.121 Yeah. 0:07:37.361 --> 0:07:40.561 I could probably come up with a way to explain 0:07:40.641 --> 0:07:41.801 why these things exist. 0:07:42.001 --> 0:07:43.161 Okay, fun, but. 0:07:43.081 --> 0:07:45.720 Then that to me kind of proves as well. 0:07:46.721 --> 0:07:49.201 But maybe they're not real. Yeah, because I'm like, oh, 0:07:49.321 --> 0:07:52.201 if I can explain it, then surely it can't be right. 0:07:52.601 --> 0:07:52.801 Yeah. 0:07:52.801 --> 0:07:58.241 Well, I mean I believe basically, like it's all true, 0:07:58.241 --> 0:07:59.121 and none of it's true. 0:07:59.321 --> 0:08:01.041 Okay, at the same time, do you know what I. 0:08:00.961 --> 0:08:03.321 Mean, guy's cat, was it shreding his cat or whatever? 0:08:03.481 --> 0:08:05.801 Like the cat inside the boxes both alive and dead 0:08:05.841 --> 0:08:06.841 at the same time because you. 0:08:06.761 --> 0:08:11.001 Can't say it, Oh god, okay, maybe what everything? Oh okay, 0:08:11.441 --> 0:08:12.801 we can't see it, so it's all of it. 0:08:13.241 --> 0:08:15.481 But I guess that's it, you know, Like to me, 0:08:15.601 --> 0:08:17.841 it's almost and you know, I sit here and I 0:08:17.881 --> 0:08:19.961 can speak to the dead, and I've you know, chatted 0:08:20.001 --> 0:08:22.281 to aliens, I've done lots of weird shit, so all 0:08:22.321 --> 0:08:25.001 I can go off is my experience. But I'm also 0:08:25.161 --> 0:08:28.601 so aware that if I wasn't me, I would be like, 0:08:28.801 --> 0:08:29.481 get fucked. 0:08:29.561 --> 0:08:34.001 Yeah, yeah, that's yeah, like a self aware yeah yeah. 0:08:34.121 --> 0:08:36.721 And then that makes you more crazy lady or less. 0:08:37.321 --> 0:08:41.081 I don't know both. I'm the dead cat. I'm the 0:08:41.121 --> 0:08:42.521 dead part of your laugh cat. 0:08:43.881 --> 0:08:45.681 Because I feel like I can sit there and that's 0:08:45.681 --> 0:08:48.121 where I despite the fact that I can like see 0:08:48.161 --> 0:08:51.561 certain things, experience certain things, and I still the reason 0:08:51.601 --> 0:08:53.561 why I didn't come out of the broom closet until 0:08:53.561 --> 0:08:55.041 I was like almost. 0:08:54.681 --> 0:08:57.201 Thirty was because I was a skeptic. 0:08:57.881 --> 0:09:03.001 Because despite experiencing things, despite seeing dead people literally come 0:09:03.041 --> 0:09:06.201 to me and talk to me and seeing the weirdest 0:09:06.201 --> 0:09:10.601 fucking things ever, I was still like, am I just 0:09:10.761 --> 0:09:11.641 fucking insane? 0:09:12.601 --> 0:09:12.841 You know? 0:09:13.281 --> 0:09:18.841 Well, I mean aren't we all? Aren't we all crazy? 0:09:20.281 --> 0:09:22.281 It's at the bottom line, we're all just a bit 0:09:22.361 --> 0:09:26.361 fucking crazy. Well, I have some like because like I 0:09:26.361 --> 0:09:28.601 have some questions, So let's and it's not like we're 0:09:28.641 --> 0:09:31.041 not trying to prove anything, disprove anything. 0:09:31.241 --> 0:09:33.321 It's just more of a like just. 0:09:33.281 --> 0:09:36.001 A chat, just like I'd love to get your perspective 0:09:36.041 --> 0:09:39.041 on certain things. And because you know, there's like people 0:09:39.041 --> 0:09:42.881 who go to psychics and or mediums and they'll you know, 0:09:43.041 --> 0:09:47.921 channel their dead grandmother and yeah, and it'll be so 0:09:48.001 --> 0:09:50.681 they'll sit there and they'll go there's like there's no way. 0:09:50.801 --> 0:09:53.241 I mean, that's even happened with like my own partner, 0:09:53.481 --> 0:09:56.361 and he still is a skeptic, but he has. 0:09:56.241 --> 0:10:00.121 Seen fascinating dynamic that you would live in because like 0:10:00.121 --> 0:10:02.121 I added some of your clips and stuff, and it's 0:10:02.121 --> 0:10:05.561 like to have a partner who's also a skeptic. He's 0:10:05.601 --> 0:10:09.321 like he just must be addicted to chaos. This is 0:10:09.561 --> 0:10:10.561 this is some fun stuff. 0:10:10.921 --> 0:10:13.881 You've met it before, so he has to be absolutely. 0:10:15.361 --> 0:10:16.561 I mean it would be exciting. 0:10:17.321 --> 0:10:20.121 Well, and he never he never sits there and he's 0:10:20.201 --> 0:10:24.081 not like you're wrong. He's and he's always interested. He's 0:10:24.121 --> 0:10:27.641 like so intrigued. He loves to listen to it. But 0:10:27.721 --> 0:10:31.001 I think it's almost like I'm probably the same. It's 0:10:31.001 --> 0:10:33.321 sort of like I think it's it's important to have 0:10:33.361 --> 0:10:37.521 an element of like questioning what you're what you're hearing, 0:10:37.561 --> 0:10:40.361 what you're experiencing, what someone else is saying to you, 0:10:40.481 --> 0:10:42.761 because I think if we're coming from a lens of 0:10:42.961 --> 0:10:45.841 everything that's coming out of your mouth is Bible. Then, 0:10:45.921 --> 0:10:48.281 like what the point, like, what is the absolute point 0:10:48.441 --> 0:10:49.081 of anything? 0:10:49.321 --> 0:10:49.601 Yeah? 0:10:50.081 --> 0:10:51.961 Yeah, yeah, I get that. 0:10:52.081 --> 0:10:54.601 I think we should always question everything and put it 0:10:54.601 --> 0:10:55.401 through our own filter. 0:10:55.601 --> 0:11:00.441 I'm a curious person too, so like I enjoy listening 0:11:00.481 --> 0:11:03.201 to things like this because I find them entertaining. 0:11:04.281 --> 0:11:05.561 Nothing else, nothing else. 0:11:05.601 --> 0:11:08.521 I find it quite funny. So there's like that side 0:11:08.561 --> 0:11:11.561 of it. But like you're never gonna you're never going 0:11:11.641 --> 0:11:16.961 to find me being like yeah, man, to like find 0:11:17.001 --> 0:11:20.681 my grandmother. Yeah, you know what I mean, Like I'm 0:11:20.721 --> 0:11:22.881 not really I'm never going to seek that out. 0:11:23.121 --> 0:11:24.761 I feel like you could play like a really good 0:11:24.881 --> 0:11:27.241 character of that though. I just really had that vision. 0:11:27.001 --> 0:11:29.481 Of like being the person who's into like. 0:11:29.481 --> 0:11:32.041 Someone like I can see with like beads around you. 0:11:32.321 --> 0:11:35.521 It's the long hair. It's the long hair and the 0:11:35.561 --> 0:11:38.081 fact that I'm like part Pakistani, so I fit the 0:11:38.121 --> 0:11:41.761 spiritual hitting a little metal bowl and bloody where is 0:11:41.761 --> 0:11:42.281 it Tibet? 0:11:43.121 --> 0:11:45.441 So if I do if like this, if this podcast 0:11:45.441 --> 0:11:47.641 itself is so life changing that I just change it 0:11:47.681 --> 0:11:50.241 all for you, then you can really slip into that question. 0:11:50.601 --> 0:11:52.401 I mean the Beatles went out there and had acid 0:11:52.441 --> 0:11:53.641 and that'd be fun to experience. 0:11:53.681 --> 0:12:00.161 Again, that's just spiritual awakening. Yeah, all right, so here 0:12:00.201 --> 0:12:02.681 are my these are my questions, okay, and we can 0:12:02.761 --> 0:12:06.441 just we'll just explore, we'll see what happens. Okay, So 0:12:07.081 --> 0:12:09.121 do you what, well, what do you think happened when 0:12:09.161 --> 0:12:09.721 we die? Then? 0:12:10.881 --> 0:12:12.321 I mean that's a boring answer. 0:12:12.761 --> 0:12:14.721 Do you think we just fucking end up in the ground? 0:12:14.761 --> 0:12:15.121 That's it? 0:12:15.321 --> 0:12:18.361 Yeah, And I think there isn't like it's probably what 0:12:18.441 --> 0:12:20.161 is it, like nihilistic or whatever, But it's like I 0:12:20.161 --> 0:12:22.281 think there is kind of a sweetness to. 0:12:22.281 --> 0:12:23.761 That, to just the end. 0:12:24.081 --> 0:12:26.881 Yeah, they're gone, because doesn't it's like it kind of 0:12:27.481 --> 0:12:30.241 I think that when you die, you're gone. Yeah, I 0:12:30.281 --> 0:12:32.841 think it. I also understand that it is a hard concept. 0:12:32.841 --> 0:12:34.761 I can't see her and pretend like I've completely wrapped 0:12:34.761 --> 0:12:38.761 my head around that concept that it just ends, because 0:12:38.801 --> 0:12:41.001 so much happens in your mind, Like you can create 0:12:41.081 --> 0:12:43.521 other worlds in your mind, you know what I mean. 0:12:43.921 --> 0:12:47.321 So it's like, yeah, wow, it's this like powerful processor 0:12:47.321 --> 0:12:49.001 in your head that you can make all these things, 0:12:49.001 --> 0:12:50.961 and the concept of that just switching off out of 0:12:50.961 --> 0:12:55.401 nowhere and not existing anymore is a hard thing to fathom, 0:12:55.401 --> 0:12:58.361 but that's why people have gone insane. Contemplating their own 0:12:58.361 --> 0:13:02.081 existence and the finite nature of life is also what 0:13:02.361 --> 0:13:03.601 drives innovation. 0:13:04.241 --> 0:13:04.801 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:13:04.801 --> 0:13:07.761 People want to make things better because there is an end. 0:13:08.561 --> 0:13:11.481 And I think it's like it's like this, right, So 0:13:11.521 --> 0:13:13.681 I don't know how to play an instrument, okay, And 0:13:13.841 --> 0:13:15.801 I tried when I was younger, and I kind of 0:13:15.841 --> 0:13:18.081 like got the shits and like stopped, and I always 0:13:18.081 --> 0:13:20.521 regret that decision. Now I could learn to play an 0:13:20.521 --> 0:13:22.961 instrument again. But when people talk about how, oh, man, 0:13:22.961 --> 0:13:25.081 if you could live forever, what would you do And 0:13:25.121 --> 0:13:26.641 a lot of people go, oh, I'd learn how to 0:13:26.681 --> 0:13:29.681 play the guitar and the piano and stuff. And then 0:13:29.681 --> 0:13:31.561 the counter argument that is always like, well, why don't 0:13:31.601 --> 0:13:33.601 you just do it now? Because if you're not going 0:13:33.681 --> 0:13:36.281 to do it now with an end date, what makes 0:13:36.321 --> 0:13:37.401 you think you're going to do it when you're going 0:13:37.441 --> 0:13:39.641 to live forever because you can just always keep kicking 0:13:39.641 --> 0:13:42.561 the game down the road no matter what. So I think, like, 0:13:43.601 --> 0:13:45.401 I think it is the end, and I think there's 0:13:45.401 --> 0:13:49.761 also something sweet and kind of would you say, like, 0:13:49.841 --> 0:13:52.321 I don't know, like beautiful in that there's an end. 0:13:52.361 --> 0:13:55.121 There's an end, so it's like it's done, so you 0:13:55.281 --> 0:13:57.001 just got to you got it gives you an urgency 0:13:57.001 --> 0:13:58.441 to be like, well, you've got to do something for it. 0:13:59.241 --> 0:14:00.961 You've got to not put up with being in the 0:14:01.001 --> 0:14:04.161 Monday because at some point it does end and that's it. 0:14:04.321 --> 0:14:07.041 But then at the same time, don't regret too much 0:14:07.121 --> 0:14:09.121 because when it's done, it's dark. You're not going to 0:14:09.201 --> 0:14:11.841 bear around to regret what happened because you're not there anymore. 0:14:12.041 --> 0:14:13.441 Yes, So just enjoy it way though. 0:14:13.721 --> 0:14:16.121 Yeah, so I understand it's like I find it hard 0:14:16.121 --> 0:14:18.121 to kind of fathom, but I think that is like 0:14:18.201 --> 0:14:21.041 also the reason why it's worth doing. 0:14:22.321 --> 0:14:25.081 How about purpose, then, I'm trying to figure out how 0:14:25.121 --> 0:14:27.801 to say this best because like just the concept of purpose, right, 0:14:27.801 --> 0:14:30.521 because we've spoken on this podcast before, you know, with 0:14:30.561 --> 0:14:33.081 people who connect to spirit babies and I can connect 0:14:33.121 --> 0:14:36.121 to like spirit baby souls and things like that and 0:14:36.241 --> 0:14:39.801 say they'll come in and for people who only are 0:14:39.841 --> 0:14:43.161 alive for a few hours, a few days, a few years, 0:14:43.241 --> 0:14:46.481 whatever it is, and that is their purpose to come 0:14:46.521 --> 0:14:49.481 in like that. And it's like sort of like what 0:14:49.681 --> 0:14:51.601 what does purpose mean to you and what does a 0:14:51.681 --> 0:14:52.241 soul mean? 0:14:52.401 --> 0:14:53.321 Does that mean anything? 0:14:54.601 --> 0:14:58.361 So I feel like purpose is a it's like it's 0:14:58.401 --> 0:15:01.041 a it's an individual made concept. 0:15:01.401 --> 0:15:01.601 Yeah. 0:15:01.641 --> 0:15:03.321 Yeah, I really think as well. In the world we 0:15:03.401 --> 0:15:04.921 live in now, we're so wrapped up in the idea 0:15:04.961 --> 0:15:07.121 of finding a purpose that people will never find one. 0:15:07.321 --> 0:15:09.641 Oh I could not agree, Like I agree about the 0:15:09.681 --> 0:15:10.641 individualism of that. 0:15:10.721 --> 0:15:12.801 Yeah, I think like everyone and there's like this whole 0:15:12.841 --> 0:15:14.401 thing is like everyone tells you that you've got to 0:15:14.401 --> 0:15:15.841 find your purpose and you've got to find this. 0:15:15.841 --> 0:15:17.401 Thing that you're going to love and row around, and 0:15:17.401 --> 0:15:17.961 you're like, well. 0:15:17.801 --> 0:15:20.681 You know, the reality of life is that not everyone 0:15:21.441 --> 0:15:24.881 finds that in terms of the grand scale, you know 0:15:24.921 --> 0:15:25.321 what I mean. 0:15:25.441 --> 0:15:27.641 Like some people like whenever you hear the. 0:15:27.601 --> 0:15:29.641 Term purpose, it's like, oh, it's like it's this business 0:15:29.641 --> 0:15:32.081 I'm going to run, or it's this like mad crazy 0:15:32.121 --> 0:15:33.761 career we're going to do, or like I'm gonna be 0:15:33.801 --> 0:15:35.161 the biggest comedian in the world. I'm going to be 0:15:35.201 --> 0:15:37.641 like the greatest artist and my message is going to 0:15:37.641 --> 0:15:40.201 be put out there and rouh, And you're like, or 0:15:40.241 --> 0:15:42.801 it could be that it's just living a happy life 0:15:42.841 --> 0:15:45.241 with you a few kids and a person that you 0:15:45.361 --> 0:15:48.521 enjoy and going out with the footy on every Sunday 0:15:48.521 --> 0:15:50.401 and enjoying your life. Like I mean, I think like 0:15:50.481 --> 0:15:54.401 the general purpose for everyone is to just enjoy the art. Yeah, yeah, 0:15:54.401 --> 0:15:55.641 I think we get too wrapped up in the idea 0:15:55.681 --> 0:15:57.481 of the giant thing. Then I think in terms of 0:15:57.481 --> 0:16:00.521 your things, like are you mixing the idea of purpose 0:16:01.041 --> 0:16:03.921 and the concept of destiny because I don't believe in 0:16:03.961 --> 0:16:06.721 the idea of that there's a pre dame destiny for anyone, Okay, 0:16:07.041 --> 0:16:08.401 And I think that's kind of thing when you talk 0:16:08.401 --> 0:16:09.801 about someone who's just coming to the world and then 0:16:09.841 --> 0:16:12.001 they disappear, it's like, what was their purpose? 0:16:12.001 --> 0:16:13.441 Well, I don't think there is a purpose. No one 0:16:13.481 --> 0:16:14.801 has a purpose, so you. 0:16:14.721 --> 0:16:16.801 Think it's just complete accident. 0:16:17.001 --> 0:16:21.521 There's no Yeah though, isn't like an accident heaps more 0:16:21.681 --> 0:16:23.521 like don't you think it's like the idea I find 0:16:23.521 --> 0:16:26.721 that me personally, I kind of try to take solace 0:16:26.761 --> 0:16:29.201 in the idea that like life is kind of like 0:16:29.281 --> 0:16:30.041 a card game. 0:16:30.361 --> 0:16:31.441 I choose your own adventure. 0:16:31.601 --> 0:16:33.121 Yeah, And it's like if you get and you just 0:16:33.161 --> 0:16:35.001 get something, so it's like I don't know if you've gambled, 0:16:35.041 --> 0:16:37.801 but like you're playing cards and then all of a sudden, 0:16:37.961 --> 0:16:39.921 like there's a big thing at the moment. Tim Nacky's 0:16:39.961 --> 0:16:43.041 like this Keywi guy and he's been doing like gambling, 0:16:43.841 --> 0:16:45.961 playing blackjack, and he's been betting ten cents for every 0:16:45.961 --> 0:16:48.041 follower he has on Instagram, right, and he just broke 0:16:48.081 --> 0:16:49.841 a million dollars the other week, and his views are 0:16:49.841 --> 0:16:52.201 getting millions of people because people just been on this 0:16:52.241 --> 0:16:55.081 guy's journey, really loving it and bowing up, and there's 0:16:55.201 --> 0:16:57.241 just it's just funny. It's like you watch the cards 0:16:57.241 --> 0:17:00.201 come out and it's pure chance, and it's like, oh 0:17:00.201 --> 0:17:02.481 my god, we did it. He's gotten. He's one, right, 0:17:02.521 --> 0:17:05.281 and that's a really exciting feeling where like all of sudden, 0:17:05.281 --> 0:17:07.601 the cars is laid the way you want it. Sometimes 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:09.600 I don't, And that's kind of funny in itself as well, 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:12.000 because you're like, oh, that sucks, But then when they hit, 0:17:12.120 --> 0:17:14.761