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Speaker 1: Apote Production.

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Speaker 2: I'm Mickie Fisher, and welcome to the Village Crazy Lady.

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Speaker 2: People are talking to me and they are not physically

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Speaker 2: in this room, so just strap in for that.

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Speaker 3: Can't call me crazy, so I said it first.

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Speaker 2: Whoever's trying to come through, whatever messages need to come through, like,

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Speaker 2: just bring it on. Let's do it Crazy Crazy Crazy,

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Speaker 2: The Village Crazy Lady Podcast. Hello, gorgeous legends, and welcome

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Speaker 2: to another episode of the Village Crazy Lady.

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Speaker 3: This week. I don't have a Village Crazy Lady in

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Speaker 3: the room with me.

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Speaker 2: I have I have a comedian, Shadwicker, who has been

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Speaker 2: kind of dragged in here because he works in the studio.

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Speaker 2: And I've been saying for a while, I need you

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Speaker 2: on the podcast because I want to do some like

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Speaker 2: like you're would you say you're a skeptic.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, not even a little bit. I'm a cynic.

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Speaker 1: I'm a synic by nature, and I'm a synic by

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Speaker 1: trade being a comedian.

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Speaker 2: So I feel like, yeah, you can't have a spiritual

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Speaker 2: awakening because it will like fuck with your whole like

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Speaker 2: comic thing.

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Speaker 1: No exactly. And I worked in like I worked in

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Speaker 1: radio for many years and like we do segments with psychics.

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Speaker 4: No one like quite like you, though, Mickey, Okay, no

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Speaker 4: one quite.

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Speaker 3: Like you in what way?

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Speaker 1: Well, I've never met someone that speaks to aliens. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was meeting you and hearing that. I was like,

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Speaker 1: this is different. And the thing is is like as well,

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Speaker 1: like I'm a skeptic, but I love crazy, Okay, Like

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Speaker 1: I love her crazy, you know what I mean? Crazy

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Speaker 1: Village crazy lady is a great like thing. But it's

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Speaker 1: like I feel like it's it's so feminine. Village crazy

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Speaker 1: Lady sounds so fun, whereas like the crazy bloke is

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Speaker 1: the guy screaming at you on the street with his

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Speaker 1: shirt off you let's not go near him.

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Speaker 3: The village crazy lady, she'll like look after you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, listen to the village ideas that guy I don't

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Speaker 1: want to be anywhy, yeah, absolutely?

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, well I love this.

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Speaker 2: So you're a skeptic, but like, don't mind a bit

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Speaker 2: of crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love a crazy story.

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Speaker 3: How about aliens?

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Speaker 1: Aliens' I think that's probably where part of my curiosity

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Speaker 1: gets peaked, because it's.

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Speaker 4: Like the idea of people on the idea of the

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Speaker 4: other side.

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Speaker 1: And stuff just doesn't resonate with me at all, So

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Speaker 1: it's just the dead for you. Yeah, that stuff I'm

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Speaker 1: not I'm not on board with. But the possibility of

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Speaker 1: alien beings and stuff, I'm like that stuff. I'm a

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Speaker 1: little bit like, Okay, we're we're a bit disproven here.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'll give you a maybe maybe.

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Speaker 2: See, I think like the concept that we are it, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and like we're the only species in yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: I think that's ludicrous surely because I also just don't

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Speaker 3: Are that special a hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: See, I agree with that, And that's where I think,

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Speaker 2: like humans are so egotistical in.

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Speaker 3: The way that they're just like we are it.

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Speaker 2: There's no way that there's any other life because like

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Speaker 3: And yet like you look at us and we're the worst.

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Speaker 1: Well we're the best though as well, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. Like there's wearing. Yeah, there's reasons wear in

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Speaker 3: I don't know how you're dog before don't think.

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Speaker 1: We're pretty cool, Like I think dogs are pretty stoked

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Speaker 1: that we're in charge. True, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: because they're like that's my that's my mate, what about.

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Speaker 3: Like, what about like other alien species.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that they look down on us and

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm in two minds as to whether they've even

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Speaker 1: I think there's definitely life, But the definition of life

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Speaker 1: it's like the idea that they're watching us live our

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Speaker 1: hard to believe that where like the Friends or Seinfeld

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Speaker 1: they're going with the war idea again. This is like

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Speaker 3: We did this like four seasons.

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Speaker 1: These guys get some new ideas, but they.

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Speaker 3: Don't even remember how it ended last time.

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Speaker 1: The same people are involved as well. That's crazy.

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Speaker 2: But that's where I feel like if they are watching us,

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Speaker 1: Because the idea is like with that, James Webb tells

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Speaker 1: I can pretty much see the Big Bang. So you go,

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Speaker 1: to them. They're is such a high delay that's happening

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Speaker 3: But their technology is so good it can probably.

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Speaker 4: That's maybe that physics.

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Speaker 2: They can't make physics, you know, maybe they can, though

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Speaker 2: this is human physics. They're fucking alien physics. They're like,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean maybe, and then if they are watching men,

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Speaker 1: like it's like these people that go, you know how

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Speaker 1: there's like all that theory. They're like, oh, aliens came

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Speaker 1: how does that even make any sense? And they came

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Speaker 1: pretty sick? And we're like, wow, that is amazing. They go, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's he makes a food anyway, See, you have fun,

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Speaker 4: Watching the whole time, look at what we're doing. Now

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Speaker 4: this is negligent.

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Speaker 1: We're like, it's like giving a baby and some beers

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Speaker 4: Him at the steering wheel of the Car's happened.

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Speaker 2: But is that is that like adding like an element

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Speaker 2: as like a telling vision series, Like if you were

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Speaker 2: would you not just say entertainment?

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Speaker 3: Oh really you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: They're like, man, it's just all a simulation, mate.

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Speaker 3: How many how much like have they smoked before they start.

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Speaker 1: The people smoke taps. It's like, yeah, I just think

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Speaker 1: there's so many variables. I think it's fun to explore

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Speaker 1: the ideas. Yeah, but in terms of whether I believe

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Speaker 1: think I think that I'm pretty I mean, I talk

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Speaker 1: I could probably come up with a way to explain

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Speaker 1: But maybe they're not real. Yeah, because I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean I believe basically, like it's all true,

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Speaker 3: Okay, at the same time, do you know what I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, guy's cat, was it shreding his cat or whatever?

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Speaker 3: Can't say it, Oh god, okay, maybe what everything? Oh okay,

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Speaker 2: But I guess that's it, you know, Like to me,

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Speaker 2: to aliens, I've done lots of weird shit, so all

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Speaker 4: And then that makes you more crazy lady or less.

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Speaker 3: I don't know both. I'm the dead cat. I'm the

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Speaker 3: dead part of your laugh cat.

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Speaker 2: Because I feel like I can sit there and that's

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Speaker 2: where I despite the fact that I can like see

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Speaker 2: certain things, experience certain things, and I still the reason

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Speaker 2: I was like almost.

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Speaker 3: Thirty was because I was a skeptic.

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Speaker 2: Because despite experiencing things, despite seeing dead people literally come

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean aren't we all? Aren't we all crazy?

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Speaker 2: It's at the bottom line, we're all just a bit

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Speaker 2: fucking crazy. Well, I have some like because like I

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Speaker 2: have some questions, So let's and it's not like we're

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Speaker 2: not trying to prove anything, disprove anything.

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Speaker 3: It's just more of a like just.

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Speaker 2: A chat, just like I'd love to get your perspective

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Speaker 2: about what's your purpose in life, and it's like, well,

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00:18:41,801 --> 00:18:44,081
Speaker 2: how can you be part of the community, how can

440
00:18:44,120 --> 00:18:46,240
Speaker 2: you do you look at life collectively?

441
00:18:46,360 --> 00:18:51,840
Speaker 1: Like that can't Like yeah in a way, but like

442
00:18:51,921 --> 00:18:56,321
Speaker 1: the idea of the ripple effect, I think that people

443
00:18:57,921 --> 00:19:04,200
Speaker 1: just naturally we want to find meaning, Okay, like we

444
00:19:04,360 --> 00:19:08,561
Speaker 1: just always we have to. Yeah, some people more than others.

445
00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,041
Speaker 1: And I think that just speaks to something in individual

446
00:19:12,281 --> 00:19:15,360
Speaker 1: intuition and stuff like that, where it's like they will

447
00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:19,120
Speaker 1: find a pattern where there needs to be a pattern, right,

448
00:19:19,921 --> 00:19:21,880
Speaker 1: And it's like I think that that kind of speaks

449
00:19:21,921 --> 00:19:25,360
Speaker 1: to why ripple effects matter. So when you say, like

450
00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,681
Speaker 1: a tragic moment happens and then that person is inspired

451
00:19:27,721 --> 00:19:31,360
Speaker 1: to do something amazing, and that is true, but also

452
00:19:31,521 --> 00:19:33,721
Speaker 1: tragic things happen and people are inspired to do things

453
00:19:33,721 --> 00:19:37,481
Speaker 1: that are awful, and it kind of like this could

454
00:19:37,521 --> 00:19:39,681
Speaker 1: get really philosophical for someone who is not.

455
00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:42,041
Speaker 3: You're in the right space.

456
00:19:42,120 --> 00:19:43,881
Speaker 1: But it's like, do you think that there's inherently good

457
00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:45,041
Speaker 1: and inherently bad people?

458
00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,160
Speaker 3: No? I've asked this question a lot because it fucks

459
00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:48,400
Speaker 3: with me.

460
00:19:48,681 --> 00:19:51,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, because do you think Well, if you say that

461
00:19:51,921 --> 00:19:54,840
Speaker 1: you think there is, then then like people are bad,

462
00:19:54,921 --> 00:19:57,920
Speaker 1: so the worst people in history. It's easy for us

463
00:19:57,921 --> 00:20:01,041
Speaker 1: to be like they were bad people to them, they

464
00:20:01,041 --> 00:20:04,400
Speaker 1: would have thought that they weren't. You know, now we

465
00:20:04,441 --> 00:20:06,401
Speaker 1: have therapy, a lot of people are realizing that they're

466
00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,880
Speaker 1: not that great. Back then, they would have been like,

467
00:20:09,921 --> 00:20:13,201
Speaker 1: this is the way to do it. Yeah, had a purpose.

468
00:20:13,281 --> 00:20:14,960
Speaker 1: They thought that they were chasing when they did the

469
00:20:15,001 --> 00:20:16,241
Speaker 1: awful things in the world.

470
00:20:16,801 --> 00:20:18,521
Speaker 3: They're like my land, Yeah.

471
00:20:18,481 --> 00:20:21,561
Speaker 1: Like that's mine. These people need to go and that's

472
00:20:21,561 --> 00:20:24,001
Speaker 1: going to make all these but you know what I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

473
00:20:24,041 --> 00:20:26,321
Speaker 1: it's like everything has another side to the coin. I

474
00:20:26,360 --> 00:20:28,041
Speaker 1: think have you ever.

475
00:20:27,961 --> 00:20:31,241
Speaker 3: Like was your family religious, have you ever been religious

476
00:20:31,281 --> 00:20:32,721
Speaker 3: at all? Or did you just grow up.

477
00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,521
Speaker 1: With like nah, I mean my mum had pictures of

478
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,840
Speaker 1: Jesus around, but I mean everyone did it the nineties,

479
00:20:40,321 --> 00:20:43,241
Speaker 1: Like my dad's Muslim. Yeah, so like that's his religion.

480
00:20:43,801 --> 00:20:47,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, I have not been a very religious person,

481
00:20:47,481 --> 00:20:51,521
Speaker 1: but I find the I think it's a fascinating story.

482
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 2: Religion is such an interesting one to me. I once,

483
00:20:54,761 --> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 2: like a few weeks ago, I asked the question, like

484
00:20:57,561 --> 00:21:00,400
Speaker 2: if you could know one truth, like what would the

485
00:21:00,481 --> 00:21:03,880
Speaker 2: truth be? And mine was like, religion, I just would

486
00:21:03,921 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 2: want to know. I'd want to be a line. I

487
00:21:05,681 --> 00:21:08,680
Speaker 2: feel like you do well and that's it, but I

488
00:21:08,801 --> 00:21:10,720
Speaker 2: just like I just want the sort of like I

489
00:21:10,761 --> 00:21:13,241
Speaker 2: want to I just want to be there when Jesus

490
00:21:13,281 --> 00:21:14,441
Speaker 2: was walking around.

491
00:21:14,120 --> 00:21:16,921
Speaker 3: If he was or whatever was doing I witness. Yeah,

492
00:21:16,921 --> 00:21:17,761
Speaker 3: I want to fucking see it.

493
00:21:17,761 --> 00:21:19,561
Speaker 2: I want to see the moment where it was, like

494
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,121
Speaker 2: the things that happened, the people sitting down writing about it,

495
00:21:23,481 --> 00:21:25,881
Speaker 2: the stories, and then you know, other religions as well,

496
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,041
Speaker 2: because I agree they're like the same same shit, different

497
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:29,881
Speaker 2: tale basically.

498
00:21:30,001 --> 00:21:33,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's like this is like parallels to Egyptian folklore,

499
00:21:33,360 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 1: and like there's all that kind of vibe that like

500
00:21:36,561 --> 00:21:39,321
Speaker 1: there's through lines in a lot of these stories, which

501
00:21:39,360 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 1: can also play to the idea that everything's connected, you

502
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,561
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like you can find a bat in.

503
00:21:43,481 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 2: That if you wanted to, well, then I was going

504
00:21:45,001 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 2: to say, right, they've even connected like the story like

505
00:21:48,321 --> 00:21:51,721
Speaker 2: the Bible and the story of Jesus and everything with astrology.

506
00:21:52,321 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 1: Well yeah I've seen that. Yeah, but see, even that's

507
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,201
Speaker 1: fascinating because it's all northern hemisphere.

508
00:21:56,201 --> 00:21:58,241
Speaker 4: That's the thing that where like a lot of religions fall.

509
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,401
Speaker 1: Apart where it's like, yeah, sick, you know how good

510
00:22:01,521 --> 00:22:03,121
Speaker 1: was no where You're like, yeah, but you didn't add

511
00:22:03,120 --> 00:22:06,521
Speaker 1: the kangaroo to the story until the night, you know

512
00:22:06,561 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 1: what I mean. You're trying to tell me that this

513
00:22:09,041 --> 00:22:11,721
Speaker 1: guy's wandering around in the Middle East, and it also

514
00:22:11,801 --> 00:22:14,281
Speaker 1: happens in the most popular like an area of the

515
00:22:14,281 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 1: world that was the most populated and kind of like

516
00:22:16,360 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 1: flourish or whatever. But it's like you're telling me these

517
00:22:18,441 --> 00:22:20,561
Speaker 1: guys wandering around and he's not like, hey, you guys,

518
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,441
Speaker 1: want to know something fucking crazy. There's actually another country,

519
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 1: big land all the way down. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know.

520
00:22:28,120 --> 00:22:30,880
Speaker 1: Like I also think that, you know, so many people

521
00:22:30,921 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 1: do good things on the back of faith. Yeah, and

522
00:22:34,321 --> 00:22:35,641
Speaker 1: such a cop out thing to say, but I think

523
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,961
Speaker 1: that's quite nice. Yeah, a lot of things because they

524
00:22:39,001 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 1: believe in the high purpose and there is a God

525
00:22:42,041 --> 00:22:45,481
Speaker 1: and that keeps them kind of wanting to help people

526
00:22:45,561 --> 00:22:48,681
Speaker 1: at that and that's nice and that in itself is beautiful.

527
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, even if they're doing it for someone else, at

528
00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:52,161
Speaker 3: least they're doing.

529
00:22:51,961 --> 00:22:55,561
Speaker 1: It great sick because I mean I'm not doing it,

530
00:22:56,801 --> 00:22:58,880
Speaker 1: you know, so I can't sit here and really like

531
00:22:58,961 --> 00:23:00,801
Speaker 1: rip on it that much when they're out here helping

532
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: people and I'm like doing nothing.

533
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:06,481
Speaker 3: Is that just a description of your life?

534
00:23:06,561 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 1: That pretty much? But that kind that's like you talk

535
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 1: about purpose before, like like sometimes that's what gives people

536
00:23:11,961 --> 00:23:14,801
Speaker 1: some purpose. And if it's like and if it's for

537
00:23:14,921 --> 00:23:17,281
Speaker 1: a good kind of thing and you're helping out people,

538
00:23:17,281 --> 00:23:19,801
Speaker 1: then like, oh am I to be a dick.

539
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,561
Speaker 3: About it totally, you know what I mean?

540
00:23:21,681 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I might not think that you'll take like that

541
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 1: you can see their people in you're doing spirits, But

542
00:23:25,721 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 1: if it's making people's lives nice and it's okay, then

543
00:23:28,681 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 1: I guess there's another is like, well what care.

544
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,001
Speaker 3: Is totally That's what I think to an extent.

545
00:23:33,721 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 1: I think like there's someones where you're like you're going

546
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:36,880
Speaker 1: to ruin the intellect of people.

547
00:23:37,441 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Okay, well, let's talk about that.

548
00:23:39,801 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 2: Let's discuss so right, there are people who say, your

549
00:23:43,521 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 2: mates going to a medium and they've like, you know,

550
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,121
Speaker 2: had this reading, they've connected to their grandfather and like

551
00:23:51,521 --> 00:23:54,121
Speaker 2: he said all of this stuff and they're sitting there

552
00:23:54,120 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 2: going there's just no way that they knew.

553
00:23:56,001 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 1: I think everyone will find a way that something will

554
00:23:58,801 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 1: link in many ways.

555
00:24:00,441 --> 00:24:00,880
Speaker 3: You reckon.

556
00:24:01,241 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 1: I think, so, like, no one's walking into a medium

557
00:24:04,201 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: mostly no one's going in paying the money, booking the service,

558
00:24:08,721 --> 00:24:12,521
Speaker 1: and having the conversation without in the back of their

559
00:24:12,561 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: mind or even fully going I want to have that experience.

560
00:24:16,041 --> 00:24:18,201
Speaker 2: So do you think it's like another human like being

561
00:24:18,241 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 2: able to sort of?

562
00:24:19,120 --> 00:24:19,281
Speaker 4: Yeah?

563
00:24:19,321 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 1: And I think there's an element of like, I know,

564
00:24:21,281 --> 00:24:24,041
Speaker 1: you did an episode on intuition. Yeah, you're talking about

565
00:24:24,041 --> 00:24:26,201
Speaker 1: all these different levels of intuition. Yeah, I think there

566
00:24:26,321 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 1: is an element of like group think. Yeah, and like

567
00:24:30,201 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 1: we can sit on a wavelength like you know what

568
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 1: I mean, Like, I don't no doubt that a lot

569
00:24:34,241 --> 00:24:37,281
Speaker 1: of these meetiums and stuff, like I'm experiencing this moment,

570
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: I'm having this experience, But I think the person receiving

571
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: the information is kind of doing a little bit of

572
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 1: connecting the dots in the same way that I'm like,

573
00:24:45,961 --> 00:24:49,081
Speaker 1: you can find you can find a pattern in anything. Yeah,

574
00:24:49,201 --> 00:24:51,481
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, give me enough time. Yeah,

575
00:24:51,761 --> 00:24:53,561
Speaker 1: I'll make a reason something's connected.

576
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:54,321
Speaker 4: Yeah.

577
00:24:54,441 --> 00:24:59,521
Speaker 3: Interesting, I think there's I think it's just all of

578
00:24:59,561 --> 00:25:00,001
Speaker 3: the above.

579
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 2: I always just think everything's like an all of the above,

580
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,881
Speaker 2: like even because and like when I was still it's

581
00:25:06,961 --> 00:25:09,241
Speaker 2: quite skeptical. And I mean to a degree I am

582
00:25:09,561 --> 00:25:11,921
Speaker 2: even though I can see things, but I still sit

583
00:25:11,961 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 2: there and go like, is my like, is there a

584
00:25:13,681 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 2: reason my mind's making this up? Like and because my

585
00:25:16,441 --> 00:25:19,161
Speaker 2: story was always just like I'm making this up.

586
00:25:19,761 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 3: But then it just came to this. It was this

587
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:22,641
Speaker 3: thing where I.

588
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,641
Speaker 2: Was like, there's actually just no way that I could

589
00:25:24,721 --> 00:25:27,721
Speaker 2: possibly make these sort of certain things up. Or I'd

590
00:25:27,721 --> 00:25:30,241
Speaker 2: be talking to someone and all of a sudden, I'd

591
00:25:30,281 --> 00:25:34,961
Speaker 2: like see their dad and I'd see exactly how he died,

592
00:25:35,041 --> 00:25:37,761
Speaker 2: and I have no idea, I've never met this person

593
00:25:37,801 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 2: before in my life. But then I just am like

594
00:25:40,721 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 2: shown all of these crazy details. I feel it in

595
00:25:43,120 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 2: my body and I'm sitting there and we're having a

596
00:25:44,961 --> 00:25:49,041
Speaker 2: conversation and then they'll like bring up something and it's

597
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,161
Speaker 2: rare that I'll never usually just be like, hey, by

598
00:25:52,201 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 2: the way, like stranger, your dad, Dad's chatting to me.

599
00:25:55,521 --> 00:25:57,041
Speaker 2: He just showed me how he died. It was pretty

600
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 2: fucked up. Would you like all the details?

601
00:26:00,360 --> 00:26:05,521
Speaker 1: Is sure? Just getting my coffee?

602
00:26:05,721 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 3: No, But it always comes up in a way where

603
00:26:07,441 --> 00:26:07,921
Speaker 3: you're like.

604
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: What you've just described me there sounds like it's fucking

605
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 1: awful experiencing, you know what I mean. I can make

606
00:26:15,241 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 1: up enough horrific thoughts in my head, you know, intrusive thoughts.

607
00:26:18,360 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 1: Walk a past the lawmar and be like, what if

608
00:26:19,761 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 1: I put my hand in that? But yours is just

609
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:27,241
Speaker 1: like a like a rollodex of just like that sounds

610
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:28,481
Speaker 1: so unpleasant.

611
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,761
Speaker 4: It's like I love it.

612
00:26:30,761 --> 00:26:34,081
Speaker 2: It's like I don't know, I kind of do love it,

613
00:26:34,561 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 2: but it's I always question it, and it's always like

614
00:26:37,281 --> 00:26:38,121
Speaker 2: and I think that's good.

615
00:26:38,120 --> 00:26:39,761
Speaker 3: I think we should always question everything.

616
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 1: Can I ask you this, because you're asking me my

617
00:26:42,001 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 1: views on stuff? Do you have an inner monologue? You

618
00:26:44,921 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 1: know how they reckon? Like like a lot of people.

619
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,481
Speaker 2: Don't like really constantly.

620
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, so like because you know how they've done that

621
00:26:52,681 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 1: they did, Like there's like some statin people like a

622
00:26:54,721 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 1: lot of people.

623
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,001
Speaker 3: Don't have any Most people don't.

624
00:26:57,041 --> 00:27:00,161
Speaker 1: I was like, what the fuck? I know who you're

625
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: talking to? It in your head the whole time, you

626
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: know what I mean? What happens when they see something

627
00:27:04,761 --> 00:27:06,561
Speaker 1: like I'd don't understand how it works? Like my mate

628
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,321
Speaker 1: Carle says he doesn't have one, and I was like, okay,

629
00:27:09,681 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 1: but then what happens when you see someone more past

630
00:27:11,441 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: doing something really weird? Do not say to hisself, well,

631
00:27:13,241 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: that's fucking crazy or do you just have to vocally

632
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:16,481
Speaker 1: say that out loud?

633
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,241
Speaker 3: Or do you just are you fucking blank up there? Yeah?

634
00:27:19,281 --> 00:27:20,801
Speaker 1: Like are you just a bit of it? Like it's

635
00:27:20,801 --> 00:27:22,641
Speaker 1: just a guy patted piano or something the whole time

636
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:23,561
Speaker 1: you're walking through your day.

637
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 2: But then there are people who they don't get. Do

638
00:27:25,521 --> 00:27:28,561
Speaker 2: you see things in your head like images, like.

639
00:27:28,561 --> 00:27:31,801
Speaker 1: A memory or like imagining? So yeah, I've got an imagination.

640
00:27:32,360 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 3: Yeah you're not everyone that, surely no.

641
00:27:36,001 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: And because I did this, were they what are they like?

642
00:27:39,521 --> 00:27:41,801
Speaker 1: Even it's like you know, because my first thought then

643
00:27:41,921 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 1: was to be like, well, they're they're serial killers, but

644
00:27:43,921 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 1: then I was like, no, serial killers are creative, so

645
00:27:46,721 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: they're like they would have an imagination. Yeah, so like

646
00:27:50,761 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: what are they like? They're just not That goes back

647
00:27:53,041 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: to the simulation thing. They're just a non playable character

648
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: that's just got there. They've got their lines that they

649
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: say through life, like like a puppet. But that's crazy

650
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,281
Speaker 1: to me, right, So, like people don't have one, but

651
00:28:02,321 --> 00:28:05,321
Speaker 1: you have one. Yeah, So when you hear something one,

652
00:28:05,961 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 1: is it your voice saying that to you or is

653
00:28:08,681 --> 00:28:11,321
Speaker 1: it a completely different sounding.

654
00:28:10,961 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 3: Voice, different sounding voice, because that's different.

655
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,241
Speaker 1: I feel like in my head, I can't hear someone

656
00:28:16,241 --> 00:28:18,521
Speaker 1: else's voice. Yeah, okay, so like even if I'm having

657
00:28:18,521 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: that thing, you know when you're like, leave an annoying

658
00:28:20,521 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 1: situation and then you make it, or you're about to

659
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,521
Speaker 1: go to a confronting situation and you decide to act

660
00:28:24,521 --> 00:28:26,801
Speaker 1: out the conversation so that you can win.

661
00:28:26,761 --> 00:28:30,681
Speaker 3: Yeah one hundred percent, and you're like.

662
00:28:31,481 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 4: You get angry as well, and you're like, why am

663
00:28:33,281 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 4: I angry?

664
00:28:34,441 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 1: I just acted out an entire confrontation and then you

665
00:28:37,481 --> 00:28:39,361
Speaker 1: have it, nothing even happens, and you're like, I'm a

666
00:28:39,361 --> 00:28:41,121
Speaker 1: fucking coward. I didn't even do what I wanted to say.

667
00:28:41,601 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 3: I said nothing, walked away, and that was not how

668
00:28:44,041 --> 00:28:44,561
Speaker 3: I died to go.

669
00:28:44,681 --> 00:28:47,441
Speaker 1: But like when I do that, it's still me playing

670
00:28:47,481 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: the other characters, you know what I mean.

671
00:28:49,921 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 3: I just imagine like shut on this side, like how

672
00:28:53,121 --> 00:28:54,921
Speaker 3: dare you do it? And then you jump on the other.

673
00:28:54,801 --> 00:28:59,281
Speaker 1: Side, and it's like, I'm not imagining like Darren's voice,

674
00:28:59,321 --> 00:29:02,321
Speaker 1: It's still me. So you're a voice is if I'm

675
00:29:02,321 --> 00:29:04,601
Speaker 1: acting it out out loud and then everyone gets a

676
00:29:04,601 --> 00:29:07,681
Speaker 1: different boy voice. Yeah, but in my head, I don't

677
00:29:08,081 --> 00:29:09,641
Speaker 1: the other character. And I don't know if anyone else

678
00:29:09,721 --> 00:29:12,081
Speaker 1: is like this, but like I don't have another voice

679
00:29:12,081 --> 00:29:14,921
Speaker 1: in there, they don't sound different. Yeah, even when it's

680
00:29:15,001 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: me arguing with myself, obviously it's still me. It's not

681
00:29:17,761 --> 00:29:19,921
Speaker 1: a different time. Yeah, yeah, it's the same thing.

682
00:29:20,161 --> 00:29:20,601
Speaker 3: Interesting.

683
00:29:20,721 --> 00:29:24,681
Speaker 1: It's like when you hear a person coming through whatever

684
00:29:25,281 --> 00:29:29,361
Speaker 1: or the aliens, is it a different sounding voice in

685
00:29:29,401 --> 00:29:29,841
Speaker 1: your head?

686
00:29:30,001 --> 00:29:31,241
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is what it's actually.

687
00:29:31,281 --> 00:29:37,441
Speaker 2: That is crazy andandk yeah that was my first real

688
00:29:37,561 --> 00:29:40,321
Speaker 2: tell because for ages, like growing up, I would see

689
00:29:40,321 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 2: things and I would hear things. But when you're used

690
00:29:43,801 --> 00:29:46,241
Speaker 2: to your own head, you're used to your own head, right,

691
00:29:46,521 --> 00:29:48,401
Speaker 2: so it's hard to question a lot of things when

692
00:29:48,481 --> 00:29:50,881
Speaker 2: all you know is what you know, and all you know,

693
00:29:51,081 --> 00:29:53,321
Speaker 2: is like, you know, even us having this conversation now,

694
00:29:53,361 --> 00:29:55,761
Speaker 2: and it's like people don't have fucking voices in their head.

695
00:29:56,081 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 2: People don't speak to themselves. People don't like imagine an

696
00:29:58,761 --> 00:30:00,841
Speaker 2: apple when they think of an apple, like that's insane,

697
00:30:01,081 --> 00:30:03,161
Speaker 2: but they're so used to that they think of We

698
00:30:03,281 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: tell them that we hear shit all the time. Go, no,

699
00:30:06,481 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 2: wonder you guys have fucking like anxiety and ship or

700
00:30:09,321 --> 00:30:10,401
Speaker 2: like they.

701
00:30:10,401 --> 00:30:12,961
Speaker 1: But would be nice to not have anything I can't.

702
00:30:13,481 --> 00:30:15,321
Speaker 3: Actually I kind of love being in my head, Like

703
00:30:15,881 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 3: I figured, you know what you know, I know what

704
00:30:18,601 --> 00:30:18,841
Speaker 3: to know.

705
00:30:18,921 --> 00:30:21,121
Speaker 1: That's right. Show me a person who doesn't haven't been

706
00:30:21,161 --> 00:30:25,361
Speaker 1: a monologue, who's sat. They all seem to be fucking

707
00:30:25,441 --> 00:30:30,001
Speaker 1: start getting they're the normal. Maybe they're the normal.

708
00:30:29,681 --> 00:30:31,361
Speaker 4: And us having conversations with that, because what do you

709
00:30:31,361 --> 00:30:31,761
Speaker 4: think about it?

710
00:30:31,761 --> 00:30:33,161
Speaker 1: I was like, I having a conversation your right ed,

711
00:30:33,201 --> 00:30:37,601
Speaker 1: were you fucking crazy? And life?

712
00:30:37,641 --> 00:30:39,641
Speaker 3: At least I'm having conversations with other people.

713
00:30:40,001 --> 00:30:45,881
Speaker 1: Okay, let's not try it's the village crazy in the

714
00:30:45,921 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: episode where it's like the guy who's only talking to

715
00:30:48,281 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: himself is the crazy one.

716
00:30:51,281 --> 00:30:55,281
Speaker 2: But so when I first started hearing voices in my head.

717
00:30:56,321 --> 00:30:58,921
Speaker 2: That's when I went, oh, hold on, that's not my

718
00:30:59,161 --> 00:31:02,841
Speaker 2: It was like when my best friend's dad passed away

719
00:31:03,201 --> 00:31:05,881
Speaker 2: and I kept he kept coming to me. He would

720
00:31:05,921 --> 00:31:08,681
Speaker 2: sit on my front seat in my car when I

721
00:31:08,721 --> 00:31:11,041
Speaker 2: was driving, which is often what happens. Like they'll come

722
00:31:11,081 --> 00:31:15,561
Speaker 2: to me when I'm driving, often having a shower, like reckless.

723
00:31:15,801 --> 00:31:20,081
Speaker 1: But it's negligent behavior, like you know, especially if they're

724
00:31:20,081 --> 00:31:23,881
Speaker 1: a modern spirit. I know how cars work. You're not

725
00:31:23,921 --> 00:31:26,041
Speaker 1: like the guy who died from you know, falling off

726
00:31:26,081 --> 00:31:29,041
Speaker 1: his horse in the twelve hundreds or whatever. You know,

727
00:31:29,201 --> 00:31:31,081
Speaker 1: a car works. Don't appear in the passenger set.

728
00:31:31,121 --> 00:31:32,281
Speaker 4: This is a dangerous situation.

729
00:31:32,561 --> 00:31:35,041
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm not free on the other side, because.

730
00:31:34,841 --> 00:31:36,681
Speaker 1: That's what's going to happen when we have a car accident.

731
00:31:37,441 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 3: That's why they're coming in. I feel like I'm going

732
00:31:39,801 --> 00:31:42,881
Speaker 3: to come join you. I'm bored. Yeah, I'm lonely.

733
00:31:43,001 --> 00:31:44,761
Speaker 2: No, but like they'll come and sit in my car

734
00:31:45,121 --> 00:31:47,841
Speaker 2: on like sit in the front seat, and then it's

735
00:31:47,921 --> 00:31:51,241
Speaker 2: not like us having a conversation like this. I'm just like, oh,

736
00:31:51,321 --> 00:31:53,681
Speaker 2: there they are, They're right there. I know this person's there.

737
00:31:54,081 --> 00:31:56,201
Speaker 2: And then I hear them talking in my head, and

738
00:31:56,241 --> 00:32:00,001
Speaker 2: because they give information to me, not through just speaking,

739
00:32:00,121 --> 00:32:02,561
Speaker 2: and because I would just hear his voice, and of

740
00:32:02,601 --> 00:32:04,881
Speaker 2: course I was like, well, I know his voice, so

741
00:32:05,041 --> 00:32:07,601
Speaker 2: I've voice started talking to me, and I started answering back.

742
00:32:07,881 --> 00:32:09,921
Speaker 2: And then I realized that I could hear other voices

743
00:32:09,961 --> 00:32:13,681
Speaker 2: and communicate with other people, and they all had different voices,

744
00:32:13,881 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 2: and depending on who I was talking to. If I

745
00:32:16,041 --> 00:32:19,481
Speaker 2: was talking to a dead person, like someone who had passed,

746
00:32:19,921 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 2: I would hear their voice. They would show up human

747
00:32:22,561 --> 00:32:25,281
Speaker 2: how they were in this life. They'd show me images

748
00:32:25,321 --> 00:32:28,401
Speaker 2: of things. They'd often show me a literal picture that existed,

749
00:32:28,841 --> 00:32:31,681
Speaker 2: and I would explain the picture, and then the person

750
00:32:31,721 --> 00:32:34,561
Speaker 2: would go and they'd find and they'd say, I've got

751
00:32:34,601 --> 00:32:36,681
Speaker 2: that photo that you're explaining, and then they would send

752
00:32:36,761 --> 00:32:39,641
Speaker 2: me the photo down to the detail of like the

753
00:32:39,681 --> 00:32:42,281
Speaker 2: color of the table, what they were wearing, who was

754
00:32:42,281 --> 00:32:45,081
Speaker 2: in the photo. And so they show me things that

755
00:32:45,161 --> 00:32:49,001
Speaker 2: will connect to the other person. Yeah, but then then

756
00:32:49,041 --> 00:32:52,201
Speaker 2: you start talking to fucking aliens and they speak very

757
00:32:52,241 --> 00:32:55,361
Speaker 2: fucking differently. They communicate in such a different way to

758
00:32:56,241 --> 00:32:59,001
Speaker 2: a human, and then you start and then like bringing

759
00:32:59,001 --> 00:33:01,121
Speaker 2: in angels as well, They fucking speak differently.

760
00:33:01,161 --> 00:33:01,521
Speaker 3: As well.

761
00:33:01,521 --> 00:33:03,761
Speaker 2: And so I've got these like I literally hear their

762
00:33:03,841 --> 00:33:07,281
Speaker 2: voices so different, and I know who they are, showed

763
00:33:07,321 --> 00:33:09,641
Speaker 2: an image. I can see where they are, what they're doing,

764
00:33:09,641 --> 00:33:14,001
Speaker 2: where they're standing, and like it's it is fucking crazy.

765
00:33:14,281 --> 00:33:18,801
Speaker 1: Yeah, sounds like I was experiencing that. I'd be like,

766
00:33:18,801 --> 00:33:20,841
Speaker 1: this is awful, But what do you You've just got

767
00:33:20,841 --> 00:33:21,761
Speaker 1: to smile on your face.

768
00:33:22,081 --> 00:33:26,481
Speaker 4: It's pretty sick, man, Like this sounds like awful.

769
00:33:26,201 --> 00:33:27,721
Speaker 3: But it seems to help people.

770
00:33:27,801 --> 00:33:30,681
Speaker 2: That's the insane thing, right, So what do you what

771
00:33:30,721 --> 00:33:34,281
Speaker 2: do you okay, give me like your analysis, Like what

772
00:33:34,441 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 2: do you think I'm experiencing? And like I'm not, And

773
00:33:37,361 --> 00:33:40,521
Speaker 2: I'm like, so just literally like I'm in a doctor's office,

774
00:33:40,561 --> 00:33:41,681
Speaker 2: like I'm open to hearing.

775
00:33:41,881 --> 00:33:44,041
Speaker 1: Well, I just say I think that there's like an

776
00:33:44,041 --> 00:33:47,801
Speaker 1: element of it, like you've just got a really heightened imagination. Yeah, right,

777
00:33:47,881 --> 00:33:49,321
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I think that maybe

778
00:33:49,401 --> 00:33:50,521
Speaker 1: if we go back to when I was saying, I

779
00:33:50,521 --> 00:33:54,201
Speaker 1: feel like people can flow on a wavelength. Yeah, maybe

780
00:33:54,201 --> 00:33:58,321
Speaker 1: you're just a very hyper intuitive, empathetic person.

781
00:33:58,601 --> 00:33:59,041
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.

782
00:33:59,281 --> 00:34:03,681
Speaker 1: And the way this is manifesting in your mind is

783
00:34:03,761 --> 00:34:07,121
Speaker 1: through the idea of here's a person related to the people,

784
00:34:07,881 --> 00:34:09,881
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, Like you're because you

785
00:34:09,921 --> 00:34:11,841
Speaker 1: seem to be interacting and again I'm not a like

786
00:34:11,881 --> 00:34:15,201
Speaker 1: I'm not a psych or a medium, but like you're

787
00:34:15,241 --> 00:34:17,401
Speaker 1: interacting with a person, then you have this thing come through.

788
00:34:17,481 --> 00:34:20,481
Speaker 1: It's a person relating to them. It's important to them,

789
00:34:20,521 --> 00:34:22,801
Speaker 1: and you've got all these messages that leak to them.

790
00:34:23,321 --> 00:34:25,161
Speaker 1: Kind of feels like to me that you're like you're

791
00:34:25,201 --> 00:34:27,361
Speaker 1: empathizing with a person and there's a piece of you

792
00:34:27,481 --> 00:34:30,201
Speaker 1: that's like I want to help this person. Yeah, and

793
00:34:30,281 --> 00:34:33,481
Speaker 1: the way that manifests in your mind is through a

794
00:34:33,601 --> 00:34:38,201
Speaker 1: shared whether it's a traumatic experience of loss, whatever, and

795
00:34:38,241 --> 00:34:42,641
Speaker 1: you're able to articulate a scenario or a thing or

796
00:34:42,681 --> 00:34:45,481
Speaker 1: an item that will give them some form of solace

797
00:34:46,001 --> 00:34:49,081
Speaker 1: or relatability to a shared experience of life.

798
00:34:49,161 --> 00:34:49,641
Speaker 3: Do you want to know?

799
00:34:49,681 --> 00:34:54,001
Speaker 2: Another element is when like the spirit comes to me,

800
00:34:54,201 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 2: I have no idea who they are.

801
00:34:55,961 --> 00:34:57,201
Speaker 3: They like I've had them.

802
00:34:57,281 --> 00:35:00,401
Speaker 2: I had this one like young girl come to me

803
00:35:00,521 --> 00:35:02,401
Speaker 2: while I was like literally in the shower and she

804
00:35:02,561 --> 00:35:04,881
Speaker 2: had this and it's happened a few times. They've come

805
00:35:05,081 --> 00:35:07,241
Speaker 2: randomly when I'm just doing things and they're like, you

806
00:35:07,321 --> 00:35:09,561
Speaker 2: need to get this message to this person. And it's

807
00:35:09,681 --> 00:35:11,841
Speaker 2: just like I don't even know the person. I just

808
00:35:11,921 --> 00:35:13,961
Speaker 2: know that I have to put it on my Instagram

809
00:35:14,241 --> 00:35:16,361
Speaker 2: and say, I've had this person come in. They smell

810
00:35:16,441 --> 00:35:18,641
Speaker 2: like this. They've told me this. They this is how

811
00:35:18,681 --> 00:35:21,281
Speaker 2: they died. This is their name, this is their age.

812
00:35:21,721 --> 00:35:23,401
Speaker 1: They smell like, mate, well.

813
00:35:23,801 --> 00:35:24,881
Speaker 3: It's fucking weird.

814
00:35:25,001 --> 00:35:26,841
Speaker 2: I'll like literally one time I was sitting there and

815
00:35:26,841 --> 00:35:30,361
Speaker 2: I smelled the strongest perfume and I'm like, and I'm

816
00:35:30,401 --> 00:35:32,401
Speaker 2: going around, I'm smelling my fucking kids.

817
00:35:32,441 --> 00:35:34,601
Speaker 3: I'm like, what is that smell?

818
00:35:34,681 --> 00:35:36,921
Speaker 2: And then they came and they shared all this information

819
00:35:37,001 --> 00:35:40,041
Speaker 2: with me, put it on my Instagram stories and like

820
00:35:40,121 --> 00:35:43,161
Speaker 2: that one for instance, it wasn't even someone who followed me.

821
00:35:43,201 --> 00:35:44,521
Speaker 3: It was someone who followed me.

822
00:35:44,681 --> 00:35:48,761
Speaker 2: They it was like their mum or it was their dad, right,

823
00:35:48,841 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 2: and it was like a message for their dad and

824
00:35:51,281 --> 00:35:53,441
Speaker 2: because it was like his wife or something like that

825
00:35:53,481 --> 00:35:55,841
Speaker 2: who passed away, and the message and the message to

826
00:35:55,881 --> 00:35:58,281
Speaker 2: me was so random and so weird. But this was

827
00:35:58,321 --> 00:36:00,521
Speaker 2: a guy who like he was like you, he was like,

828
00:36:00,561 --> 00:36:03,081
Speaker 2: there's no fucking way, this shit is bullshit, and he

829
00:36:03,241 --> 00:36:05,561
Speaker 2: was like in tears and he was like I can't

830
00:36:05,561 --> 00:36:09,921
Speaker 2: believe it, like the name, the nickname, the everything, and even.

831
00:36:09,761 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 3: I'm always like that do for them.

832
00:36:11,921 --> 00:36:14,641
Speaker 2: It just it was a time where they just really

833
00:36:14,681 --> 00:36:18,361
Speaker 2: needed to hear from this person where they felt really

834
00:36:18,441 --> 00:36:20,721
Speaker 2: like I don't know, you know when you have those

835
00:36:20,841 --> 00:36:23,721
Speaker 2: days and you're just like feeling really shitty, you're feeling.

836
00:36:23,441 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 3: Really like down about life, where you're going what you're doing.

837
00:36:26,561 --> 00:36:29,081
Speaker 2: Like imagine if you know you'd had someone really close

838
00:36:29,121 --> 00:36:31,761
Speaker 2: to you pass away and you just wish you could

839
00:36:31,761 --> 00:36:32,241
Speaker 2: have their.

840
00:36:32,121 --> 00:36:34,761
Speaker 1: Advice was that one last well.

841
00:36:34,601 --> 00:36:36,601
Speaker 2: Even just like their advice, so it's like your mum

842
00:36:36,681 --> 00:36:38,721
Speaker 2: or something, and you're like, I just I'm in a

843
00:36:38,761 --> 00:36:40,801
Speaker 2: time where all I wish was that my mum was

844
00:36:40,801 --> 00:36:43,081
Speaker 2: here and could give me advice right now. Yeah, it's

845
00:36:43,121 --> 00:36:44,641
Speaker 2: often those times.

846
00:36:44,921 --> 00:36:47,641
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then that that also goes back to where

847
00:36:47,681 --> 00:36:52,721
Speaker 1: I feel like you find a pattern to soothe your being. Yeah,

848
00:36:52,881 --> 00:36:54,681
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you're in this awful

849
00:36:54,721 --> 00:36:58,281
Speaker 1: moment and you're providing a service off here's a thing

850
00:36:58,681 --> 00:37:01,241
Speaker 1: yeah at all or a friend of a friend or

851
00:37:01,281 --> 00:37:05,481
Speaker 1: whatever is like, well, if that passage can link to

852
00:37:05,521 --> 00:37:08,881
Speaker 1: this pattern, you know what I mean, And like that, yeah,

853
00:37:09,081 --> 00:37:12,761
Speaker 1: I kind of still feel because even if, like, let's

854
00:37:12,761 --> 00:37:15,041
Speaker 1: say I did believe it. Okay, let's say I think

855
00:37:15,081 --> 00:37:17,721
Speaker 1: that it is one hundred percent trough and there's spirits

856
00:37:17,721 --> 00:37:22,001
Speaker 1: wandering around at the moment and it's a shared experience.

857
00:37:22,241 --> 00:37:27,201
Speaker 4: My next thing would be why, like why?

858
00:37:27,801 --> 00:37:34,321
Speaker 1: Like, Yeah, how fucking boring must the other side be

859
00:37:34,881 --> 00:37:35,881
Speaker 1: that you're here?

860
00:37:36,681 --> 00:37:39,001
Speaker 4: You're telling me there's aliens out here doing some shit.

861
00:37:39,481 --> 00:37:40,241
Speaker 4: Where am I going?

862
00:37:40,281 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: First? What are they up to? That's what I'm doing.

863
00:37:42,561 --> 00:37:44,921
Speaker 4: I'm exploring the vastness of.

864
00:37:44,881 --> 00:37:47,881
Speaker 1: The universe that I've never been able to see and

865
00:37:48,081 --> 00:37:50,441
Speaker 1: was never even going to be able to see being

866
00:37:50,441 --> 00:37:51,721
Speaker 1: stuck on this floating rock.

867
00:37:52,001 --> 00:37:53,081
Speaker 4: Why are you?

868
00:37:53,481 --> 00:37:53,561
Speaker 1: Like?

869
00:37:53,681 --> 00:37:54,601
Speaker 4: My message would be to.

870
00:37:54,521 --> 00:37:56,721
Speaker 1: The spirits that A're talking to, you would be leave

871
00:37:56,841 --> 00:38:01,321
Speaker 1: this lady alone over there into the other side.

872
00:38:01,441 --> 00:38:04,801
Speaker 4: So the long, never ending meadow of bliss and happiness

873
00:38:05,041 --> 00:38:06,441
Speaker 4: where you never feel pain.

874
00:38:06,281 --> 00:38:09,241
Speaker 1: Again, and you get to live out your wildest.

875
00:38:08,761 --> 00:38:12,001
Speaker 4: Dreams and the most beautiful hunks.

876
00:38:11,521 --> 00:38:14,201
Speaker 1: And goddesses of the world are ready to get to

877
00:38:14,801 --> 00:38:18,521
Speaker 1: indulge every sexual fantasy and desire you've ever wanted. You

878
00:38:18,521 --> 00:38:21,201
Speaker 1: can manifest anything you want on the other side, and

879
00:38:21,241 --> 00:38:23,801
Speaker 1: you're back here sending a message to Steve.

880
00:38:23,881 --> 00:38:25,561
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're sitting in what do you do.

881
00:38:28,441 --> 00:38:29,721
Speaker 4: Live your afterlife?

882
00:38:29,961 --> 00:38:30,201
Speaker 3: Yeah?

883
00:38:30,241 --> 00:38:32,841
Speaker 2: True, I think that's an important message to send to them.

884
00:38:33,161 --> 00:38:35,401
Speaker 2: I mean, they do say that it's less and will

885
00:38:35,401 --> 00:38:38,161
Speaker 2: wrap up soon, but it's less that they're fucking just

886
00:38:38,201 --> 00:38:40,361
Speaker 2: hanging around here and they're like chilling on earth and

887
00:38:40,361 --> 00:38:42,041
Speaker 2: they're like, I'm just here to help out.

888
00:38:41,841 --> 00:38:43,921
Speaker 3: My loved ones and I just want to help them through.

889
00:38:44,361 --> 00:38:47,321
Speaker 2: It's more like fragments of them, because we're sort of

890
00:38:47,401 --> 00:38:50,081
Speaker 2: like kind of fragments of each other where sort of

891
00:38:50,121 --> 00:38:52,321
Speaker 2: fragments as far as like you know, we're not just

892
00:38:52,441 --> 00:38:54,721
Speaker 2: like a human body, a brain in a body, a

893
00:38:54,801 --> 00:38:57,441
Speaker 2: soul in a body, you know, and especially as we

894
00:38:57,481 --> 00:38:58,681
Speaker 2: move on to the.

895
00:38:58,601 --> 00:39:00,721
Speaker 4: Other DNA as a bit of everyone through everyone.

896
00:39:01,401 --> 00:39:04,641
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like, you know, on a very energetic level,

897
00:39:05,161 --> 00:39:07,361
Speaker 2: it's the same thing. It's more like it's like a

898
00:39:07,401 --> 00:39:09,361
Speaker 2: fragment of them left behind. It's like a memory of

899
00:39:09,401 --> 00:39:12,721
Speaker 2: them left behind, and that memory is like necessary, you know,

900
00:39:13,241 --> 00:39:15,241
Speaker 2: for them to be there to sort of help other people.

901
00:39:15,321 --> 00:39:17,561
Speaker 2: I don't know, like it's just sort of like there's

902
00:39:17,641 --> 00:39:19,761
Speaker 2: no and again, like I don't have the fucking answers.

903
00:39:19,801 --> 00:39:20,481
Speaker 3: That's why.

904
00:39:20,641 --> 00:39:22,441
Speaker 1: But then maybe it's, like I said, like, then I

905
00:39:22,521 --> 00:39:25,081
Speaker 1: get back to my little theory where it's like, maybe

906
00:39:25,081 --> 00:39:26,601
Speaker 1: it's not so much a spirit. You're going to say

907
00:39:26,601 --> 00:39:28,601
Speaker 1: it's fragments of people, But maybe it's not so much

908
00:39:28,601 --> 00:39:33,401
Speaker 1: a spirit, and it is this shared psycho shared psychological

909
00:39:34,161 --> 00:39:38,041
Speaker 1: intuitive experience. Yeah, I'm trying to bridge a gap from

910
00:39:38,041 --> 00:39:42,321
Speaker 1: my skepticism to your psychic abilities. I'm like, maybe that's

911
00:39:42,361 --> 00:39:46,041
Speaker 1: the bridging of the gap that I could maybe potentially comprehend.

912
00:39:47,441 --> 00:39:50,721
Speaker 3: You can float around with. We're all fragments. Some people

913
00:39:50,721 --> 00:39:51,801
Speaker 3: can read the fragments.

914
00:39:52,561 --> 00:39:56,441
Speaker 1: I don't know about these guys, but fragments, Okay, I

915
00:39:56,481 --> 00:39:57,561
Speaker 1: get how it dust works.

916
00:39:59,321 --> 00:40:01,281
Speaker 3: We're all just a bunch of atoms floating around.

917
00:40:01,281 --> 00:40:04,961
Speaker 2: Anyway, Well, thank you very much for having this conversation

918
00:40:05,161 --> 00:40:05,401
Speaker 2: with me.

919
00:40:05,681 --> 00:40:07,961
Speaker 3: I mean I think we got through like two questions.

920
00:40:08,481 --> 00:40:11,841
Speaker 1: Yeah, a bit tangent, but you know, Hifel wasn't rude

921
00:40:11,921 --> 00:40:12,481
Speaker 1: to people that.

922
00:40:13,001 --> 00:40:14,721
Speaker 3: No, that's not the point at all. And that's what

923
00:40:14,761 --> 00:40:15,081
Speaker 3: I like.

924
00:40:15,321 --> 00:40:18,561
Speaker 2: My whole thing is one like, you know, even if

925
00:40:18,561 --> 00:40:21,521
Speaker 2: this is a big giant spiritual experience, we're obviously here

926
00:40:21,521 --> 00:40:24,681
Speaker 2: to be human and so you know, often people like

927
00:40:24,801 --> 00:40:27,361
Speaker 2: in the spiritual realm, and like people who work, you know,

928
00:40:27,721 --> 00:40:30,201
Speaker 2: with the spirits and stuff, they're trying to like escape

929
00:40:30,241 --> 00:40:33,121
Speaker 2: being human. They're trying to like get away from being human.

930
00:40:33,201 --> 00:40:35,641
Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, the whole point obviously we're here,

931
00:40:35,641 --> 00:40:38,361
Speaker 2: We're in this human body. So I love like just

932
00:40:38,401 --> 00:40:41,521
Speaker 2: the grounding even of having these conversations and being like,

933
00:40:41,601 --> 00:40:44,361
Speaker 2: well even what you said, like there's an end date,

934
00:40:44,521 --> 00:40:45,201
Speaker 2: just fucking.

935
00:40:46,121 --> 00:40:47,881
Speaker 4: Even if you think there's an alf life act as

936
00:40:47,881 --> 00:40:48,481
Speaker 4: if there isn't.

937
00:40:48,721 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.

938
00:40:49,481 --> 00:40:51,041
Speaker 1: I like that.

939
00:40:51,161 --> 00:40:52,041
Speaker 3: Well, thank you, Shad.

940
00:40:53,281 --> 00:40:55,681
Speaker 2: Maybe you're the like maybe before we know it, you'll

941
00:40:55,721 --> 00:40:57,561
Speaker 2: be the village crazy shadow.

942
00:40:57,561 --> 00:40:59,681
Speaker 1: Well, like I said, it's not a job for a man.

943
00:41:00,241 --> 00:41:02,721
Speaker 1: Remember we like the Vans. He's scary.

944
00:41:03,001 --> 00:41:05,721
Speaker 2: Oh true, we'll see, we'll see, like adding on like

945
00:41:05,761 --> 00:41:06,481
Speaker 2: a street corner.

946
00:41:11,321 --> 00:41:11,721
Speaker 3: Thank you.

947
00:41:12,361 --> 00:41:12,401
Speaker 1: But