1 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to Fair and Greed the week Ahead. I'm Sean Aylmer, 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: and as always I'm joined at this time on a 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: Monday morning by economist Stephen Caculis. You'll find team at 4 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: the cook dot com and our next using the handle 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: the Kirk. Stephen. 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 2: Good morning, very good morning, Sean. 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: We had so much information last week, we had national accounts, 8 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: retail figures, building approvals, house prices. Where do we stand 9 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: at the end of that week? 10 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: Look at the end of the week, I think it's 11 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 2: fair to say that the bulk of the domestic numbers 12 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 2: coming out were either okay or even dare I say 13 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 2: quite good? And is it nice to be talking about 14 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: better news on the rad of economic growth? So in 15 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 2: no particular order GDP. Yes, it's looking in the review 16 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: mirror of the economy, but of course it's a quarterly 17 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: update on where we were ap point six percent increasing 18 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: GDP in the December quarter, the fastest growth that we've 19 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: seen in two years. It comes after a series of 20 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 2: point ones and point two so it's nice to get 21 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 2: a point six and you'll growth ticked up to one 22 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 2: point three percent. So as the Treasurer said, yeah, this 23 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: could well be just the turning point, not to a 24 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: booming economy, but just that that bleeding that we'd seen 25 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 2: over the last couple of years might be coming to 26 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 2: an end. And you know, the bottom line GDPNU was 27 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 2: looking a little bit better. That was supplemented by well, 28 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: my favorite number for last week was actually the building 29 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 2: of proved six point three percent cracker. The supply side 30 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 2: is working. I love it when economics works. It does sometimes, 31 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 2: you know. So we've got the shortage of housing being 32 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 2: addressed by construction companies and individuals saying I want to 33 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: build a new house, so either up six percent or 34 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: a new apartment. In this case, there was a very 35 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 2: heavy skewing to apartments, but even so it's a dwelling. 36 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 2: So up six percent in the month, and up a 37 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 2: staggering twenty seven percent from the low point in February 38 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 2: last year. And this is before obviously, the interest rate 39 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: cup effects kick in, and before some of those what 40 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: we call them sweeteners at the federal government's giving the 41 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: local government sector to fast track approval and rezoning, those 42 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: things that Peter Chillip, the excellent housing economist, talks about 43 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: all the time. That's really just sort of starting to 44 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 2: kick in, so maybe, just maybe this is the turning 45 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 2: point in the house dwelling construction cycles, something that we 46 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 2: desperately need. And then to round out a little bit 47 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 2: of better good news, retail sales plus point three, so 48 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 2: again not boomingham that comes after a bit of a 49 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 2: weak result in December, but it's nice to have a 50 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 2: plus sign. 51 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: What about I mean, how's this? What's it mean for 52 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: interest rates? Because we've had one rate cut, but all 53 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: this data has taken well before then, and maybe the 54 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: Reserve Bank is allowed to be cautious on any further 55 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: rate cuts because it's not dragging on the economy quite 56 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: as much. 57 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 2: Look, and that's the big question. And Deputy Government Andrew 58 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 2: Howser did give a speech last week too before the 59 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 2: National accounts came out, but in a sense that didn't 60 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: really sway what he said because again the content was terrific, 61 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 2: really interesting to hear his analysis, and I think the 62 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 2: thing that struck me about that presentation and that talk 63 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: that he gave was the what we call the counterfactual scenario. 64 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 2: So people were he was dressing the point that why 65 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 2: did you cut intero strates in the middle of February, 66 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: and he put this little chart showing that if they 67 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 2: did not cut rates trimmed mean inflation would be tracking 68 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: towards two and a quarter percent, so below the midpoint 69 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 2: of the target range. They did cut rates, and that 70 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 2: saw inflation not fall below the midpoint of the target range. 71 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: Then there are a couple other bits and bobs in 72 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: terms of the fore casts and projections there, but it 73 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: was basically saying that if the economy and their modeling 74 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 2: suggests that inflation's too low, they'll cut. If it's on 75 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: the target, they'll hold. And I suppose it's pretty obvious 76 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 2: when you say it, but if inflation's just even above 77 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 2: the midpoint of the target, so not above three percent, 78 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 2: but above the mid point of the target, they'll probably hold. 79 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 2: And only when it gets above three again will they hike. 80 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: It's interesting, right, I what have we got coming up 81 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: this week? 82 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 2: Well, domestically, there's only two bits, and it's about how 83 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: we are feeling, how happy are we. So there's the 84 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,839 Speaker 2: consumer sentiment numbers from our friends at Westpac, and that's 85 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 2: a good survey and it did jump up a little 86 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 2: bit after the rate cut. Last time we've seen consumers 87 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 2: sort of responding to the fact that interest rates are 88 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 2: low us So whether any of the geopolitical things, the 89 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 2: goodness me, the horrendous cyclone are going to change people's 90 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 2: sentiment remains to be seen. But again interesting to see. 91 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: When consumers are happy, they tend to spend more. And 92 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 2: the NAB Business Confident Survey is out and again not 93 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 2: only do they assess ask businesses, are you confident? Are 94 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: you feeling optimistic about the economic outlook or not? They 95 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 2: ask a lot of sub questions about price pressures, profitability, 96 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 2: hiring intentions, so you get a really nice, up to 97 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 2: date snapshot on what the business sector was thinking. So 98 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 2: those two things are the really only powerful bits of 99 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 2: information that we get this week from the local economy. 100 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 2: And for the moment it's sort of all lies globally 101 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 2: and all eyes on sort of the cleanup from the cyclone. 102 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,559 Speaker 1: Stephen, enjoy your week. Thank you as the Cinder Stephen 103 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: Cookole it's better known as the Cookie. You can find 104 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: him at the cook dot com and follow him on 105 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 1: X using the handle of the Kirk. I'm Seanler and 106 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: this is fear and greed, the weak Ahead