1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: On scar loads Austrodia. This is the Wider Panety Show. 2 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the readA Panety Show. 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 3: Coming up tonight, Opposition leader Susan Lee under renewed pressure 4 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 3: to step down as Newspolt delivers another devastating result for 5 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 3: the Coalition. 6 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 2: Adam Crichton will. 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 3: Join me shortly to discuss the day's top headlines. Australian 8 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 3: companies list energy costs as their. 9 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 2: Number one concern. Profess A and Fimer will weigh on. 10 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 3: That issue, and the Great Josh Hammer will have the 11 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 3: latest from the US, including another example of leftist political violence. 12 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: And later in the hour. 13 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 3: Kinsisco Field with all your royal and celebrity news. 14 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: And we have some cringe content from. 15 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 3: Megan Markle and Hollywood has been Richard Gere stars in 16 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 3: Tonight's Left is Losing. 17 00:00:54,840 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 4: It is a dark, dark presence, but it's out and 18 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 4: so quickly. Six months He's almost destroyed our country. 19 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 3: But first, the latest News poll has revealed that core 20 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 3: support for the Coalition remains at record lows, alongside an 21 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 3: abysmal approval rating for leader Susan Lee. While one nation's 22 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 3: primary vote has searched to eleven percent, It is double 23 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 3: what it achieved at the election, and the highest one 24 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 3: nation has achieved since twenty seventeen. Labour's primary vote remains 25 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 3: at thirty seven percent. The coalition is floundering on twenty 26 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 3: eight and if you look at the two party preferred numbers, 27 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 3: well they're also grim for the coalition, with Labor leading 28 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 3: fifty seven to forty three percent. Joining me now for 29 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 3: more on this is Chief economists at the Institute of 30 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 3: Public Affairs, Adam Crichton. Adam, this is a terrible mess, 31 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 3: I would argue, a self inflicted mess. How much longer 32 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 3: can Susan Lee remain at the helm with these numbers? 33 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: Well, probably until the end of the year. 34 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: I would say, Look, it's been six months almost since 35 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: the election. The review is still going. We still don't 36 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: really know where they stand on immigration, multiple reviews. That's why, 37 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: multiple reviews. We don't really know where the coalition stands 38 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: on immigration. Well, actually sorry, the Liberal Party we know, 39 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: the National Party. The Liberal Party we don't know. And 40 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: same with net zero, So no wonder they're in the doldrums. 41 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: And I think you know, it makes sense that one 42 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: Nation's double their support because they do have strong views 43 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: on those two issues. In fact, Pauline Hanson spoke at 44 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: Seapack in Brisbane just a few weeks ago and it 45 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: was a fantastic speech. It was very forthright, it was 46 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: very charismatic and it actually just got me thinking, she's 47 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: you know, she's probably the most famous politician in Australia 48 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: now and I think that that actually matters. I mean 49 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: Susan Lee. I mean, I think there was a survey 50 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: a few months ago. I think you know, forty percent 51 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: of Australias didn't know who she was. 52 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 3: So help her approval ratings. Honest with you, her net 53 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 3: approval rating is not good. Thirty one percent of voters 54 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 3: were satisfied with Susan Lee's performance, fifty one percent dissatisfied. 55 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 3: So again, trialing the prime minister, that's to be expected. 56 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 3: Brings me to Andrew Hasty has denied reports that he 57 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 3: wants to contest the Liberal leadership, saying he backed Susan 58 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 3: Lee and that his decision to step down from the 59 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 3: Liberal front bench was about his freedom to express his 60 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 3: views on immigration policy, not setting up a leadership spill. Adam, 61 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 3: I can only hope for the sake of the Liberal 62 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 3: Party and the. 63 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: Sake of the country. That's not accurate. 64 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, look, and it's probably not accurate, i'd say. I mean, 65 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: he's probably hoping for a brighter future at the head 66 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: of the party at some point. But you know, he's 67 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: done the honorable thing. I think he stood back. I 68 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: think there's a forty fifty thousand dollars pay cut involved 69 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: in that actually, so it's not like there is no 70 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: personal sacrifice. There is for him, and of course it's 71 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: less prestigious and so on. But I think it's already working. 72 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: I think two other backbenches, is it ben Small I 73 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: think in Henry Pike have already said that they support 74 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: him on immigration or. 75 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: On net zero. 76 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: So there is a groundswell of support I think amongst 77 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: the younger members of the Liberal Party in Parliament. I 78 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: think it's a generational thing. I mean, Susan's been there 79 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: for what twenty five years, she's very much the old guard. 80 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 2: Exankly, what has she achieved in twenty five Well. 81 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: That's a very good question. And look, she seems a 82 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: nice lady, but I don't know what she stands for. 83 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 3: I have an inkling that much of what she stands 84 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 3: for would be far more comfortably. 85 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 2: In the tials orfully labor. 86 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 3: She is known for her back flips, but the initial 87 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 3: position she often takes is entirely wrong for a center 88 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 3: right coalition. 89 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: I think that's right. 90 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 2: And you look at the Liberal. 91 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 3: Party now, their best talent is on the back bench, 92 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 3: including Senator Price And if you've got a hasty price ticket, 93 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 3: that is very attractive, I would think to the electorate. 94 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 2: But should certainly do. 95 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 3: The right thing here and step down as opposed to 96 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 3: ripping up the party having a leadership battle that's going 97 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 3: to be very damaging and divisive naturally. 98 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: Look, it's a difficult question that I mean, history suggests 99 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: that she won't because most people like being leader and 100 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: they don't like leaving that position. It's also a much 101 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: higher salary too, but that is a fact that we 102 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: don't think of those things. 103 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 2: But it is a factor. 104 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: And they get lots of staff, lots of prestige. I mean, 105 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: you know, at one point in time, I work for 106 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: the leader of the leader of the Opposition and it 107 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: was like, I think we had forty five staff in 108 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: the office. 109 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 2: It's a pretty big operation. 110 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: So she'll probably want to hang around, I would say, 111 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: that's my guess. 112 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 2: She's enjoying me. 113 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: Maybe it's good though for Andrew too, because does he 114 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: really want it right now or does he want it 115 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: closer to the next election. 116 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 3: Well, there is a lot of conjecture about that, a 117 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 3: lot of political pundits saying it's too early to challenge 118 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 3: and he should do it closer to the election. 119 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 2: I've got to say I disagree. 120 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 3: I think they have so much ground to make up, 121 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 3: There is so much work to be done that it 122 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 3: needs to happen as soon as possible. This notion, then 123 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 3: you can just come in with a few months to 124 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 3: go and have a honeymoon period and win an election 125 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 3: when you've got a gap that exists at the moment. 126 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 3: And really the Liberals need to communicate to the elect 127 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 3: who they are, what they stand for, what their policies are. 128 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 3: And that takes time to do properly. And I think 129 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 3: people take the electorate for granted. 130 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 2: They're a lot more informed. 131 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 3: And smarter than I think most politicians give them credit for. Now, 132 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 3: let's talk about the Institute of Public Affairs. Your organization 133 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 3: has just released some new research about prison costs in Australia, 134 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 3: revealing that governments are spending over six point eight billion 135 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 3: per year on jail facilities, with the average cost of 136 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 3: housing a single prisoner blowing out to one hundred and 137 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 3: fifty nine thousand dollars per annum. That is an enormous 138 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 3: average costs. What else did you find with this look. 139 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: It's a fascinating piece of research by my colleague Manerschlipt, 140 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: And one of the main takeaways was that thirty seven 141 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: percent of people behind bars are actually there for nonviolent crimes, 142 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: and so that's one hundred and sixty thousand dollars each. 143 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: It's very expensive. It does beg the question, surely there 144 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: are better ways to to punish those people and to 145 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: bring them back into the community. So that was one 146 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: of the takeouts. And also we also found that Victoria 147 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: actually has the most room in their jails by far, 148 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: and you know, you're probably joke us because they don't 149 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: put anyone in them, but that is an opportunity for 150 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: the state to actually take criminals from other states because 151 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: the other states are much they're struggling to find room 152 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: in their prisons. 153 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 3: I think that is going to shock a lot of 154 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 3: Victorians that we've got so many empty beds in prisons 155 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:33,679 Speaker 3: because the cost is ridiculous it should not cost that much, 156 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 3: and you can see in other countries how they've reduced 157 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 3: those costs. But when you've got a crime riddled state, 158 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 3: how can we have I thought that one of the 159 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 3: reasons why people weren't being locked up was we just 160 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,559 Speaker 3: didn't have the facilities, because when's the last time we built. 161 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, they certainly do. 162 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: They certainly do have the facilities. In fact, I think 163 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: there are new facilities that are barely used in Victoria. 164 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: But you're right, the incarceration rate is substantially lower than 165 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: New South Wales. Substantially though in Queensland. I mean it's noticeable, 166 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: and as you say, that's unusual because there. 167 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 3: Is a lot of I can understand though, when you've 168 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 3: had just a labor rule for so long and labor 169 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 3: attorney generals appointing judges who are like minded, who've got 170 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 3: a very so called progressive view of the criminal justice 171 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 3: which is absolutely preoccupied with the rights of offenders as 172 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 3: opposed to reducing crime. Now, Clementine Ford, I know it's 173 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 3: one of your favorite far less feminist activist troll. Clementine Ford. Well, 174 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 3: she's planning to launch her own social media app after 175 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 3: her Facebook and Instagram accounts were deleted by Meta. 176 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 2: Now I'm not exactly sure why this happened. She has a. 177 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 3: Lot of extreme commentary recently, though, she has had a 178 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 3: lot of extreme commentary on the assassination of Charlie Kirk. 179 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 3: She even mocked Charlie's grieving widow, Erica. We talked about 180 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 3: that on this and as Steve Jackson notes in The 181 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 3: Australian Today, Clementine Ford thought it was fine to gloat 182 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 3: over a great man's brutal death, but people laughing at 183 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 3: her Instagram page being deleted are apparently just beyond the 184 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 3: page that she's the real victim. 185 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's just a horrible person. And actually I really 186 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: wish that Meta had not canceled the accounts because. 187 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 2: She's in the news. 188 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: That means we have to look at her and we 189 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: have to hear her, we have to read her, and it's. 190 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 2: It's a real struggle. 191 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: She's definitely not my favorite person. 192 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: I think she's awful. 193 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure she feels the same about me. I've got 194 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: but you know, she's got nothing of real value to add. 195 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: Just as you said earlier, extremely vitriol that comments. But 196 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: I think for its own. 197 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 2: Sake, I disagree. 198 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 3: I think sunlight is the best disinfectant. I don't support 199 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 3: unless someone is openly inciting, and that's that's against the law, 200 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 3: so you know, that's becomes a criminal matter. I want 201 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 3: the left to show just how ugly and rage that 202 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 3: have become, because she does have an enormous following. You 203 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 3: look at her numbers on Instagram and Facebook. She certainly 204 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 3: had a following. And also she was doing great work 205 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 3: for my lefties losing my god, I could have just 206 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 3: had a whole Clementine Ford section. 207 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 2: But then you know, probably well you'll have to join 208 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 2: her new app Adam. 209 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 3: Before you go, let's have a look at Greta Thumberg's 210 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 3: latest bit of activism. Of course, she has become an 211 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 3: anti Israeli activist these days, and the Swedish people have 212 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 3: had enough. They're calling on the Israelis to hold on 213 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 3: to her. 214 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 6: My name is Givin tom May. I'm a citizen of Sweden. 215 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 6: If you are watching this video, I have been abducted 216 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 6: and taken against my will by Israeli forces. Our humanitarian 217 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 6: mission was nonviolent and abiding by international law. Please tell 218 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 6: my government to demand and the other's immediate release. 219 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 7: My name is ju Jakim la Motte and I'm a 220 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 7: Swedish citizen. If you see this video, Gritatun has been 221 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 7: abducted by Israeli forces and I have a message from 222 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 7: the Swedish people to the Israeli government. Please keep her. 223 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 7: We have had her so many years in Sweden and 224 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 7: we cannot stand it anymore. 225 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 3: I guess that is an opinion that might be shared 226 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 3: by a few Swedes. But let's never forget that little activist. 227 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 3: That little goblin was lecturing people at the UN, lecturing 228 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 3: world leaders. Policies were made based on her activism. 229 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, look, she's certainly annoyed so many people over a 230 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: long period of time. And actually, I think when she 231 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 1: got involved at first I thought, gosh, the Palace Citians 232 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: are surely thinking please, no, please don't support us, Please 233 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: please do something else, because I don't think it's helped 234 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,719 Speaker 1: them at all, because she's so annoying. And I think 235 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: a lot of people seen her they're like, oh, if 236 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: she's supporting it, it can't be a good call. 237 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 3: No, And you know, being a little doom goblin. Climate 238 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 3: change is the natural era for her. We need her 239 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 3: to get back to get back to climbate that chain 240 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 3: herself to tractors or whatever else she wants to do. 241 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 3: Adam Chrichton, thank you so much for your time. 242 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 2: Thanks render now. Survey of more than five. 243 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 3: Hundred Australian companies has found that energy costs top the 244 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 3: list of concerns, with businesses rating it three times more 245 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 3: worrying than US tariffs and international trade disruptions. Let's bring 246 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 3: in esteem geologist and author Professor Ian plimber In. Several 247 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 3: corporate leaders, including those in the manufacturing sector, say the 248 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 3: cost of energy is rising so fast that it's now 249 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 3: risking their competitiveness with importers. 250 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 5: Well, Australia's competitive advantage has been in the industry industries 251 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 5: that really need energy, and we used to have cheap, 252 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 5: reliable energy. We don't. So God help you if you 253 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 5: run a foundry where you need a lot of energy 254 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 5: and you can't suddenly have the energy turned off because 255 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 5: the metal will freeze in the pot. God help you 256 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 5: if you run a smelter, and we're finding that now 257 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 5: with the smelters that use a lot of energy, the 258 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 5: aluminium smelters and the zinc smelters, they're only huge pressure. 259 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 5: Australia is the biggest lead smelter in the world. That's 260 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 5: under pressure. So unless our energy prices are low, we 261 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 5: cannot convert our minerals into metals, and that means we 262 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 5: export our concentrate to China, and that means we get 263 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 5: the prices we don't want, and that means that China 264 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 5: controls even more of the world's metal markets. So it's 265 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 5: no wonder that these industries are undergrade stress. 266 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 3: But what were these business leaders when these policies were 267 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 3: being formulated, Because the business community was very quiet about 268 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 3: some of these mad green policies, despite the fact that 269 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 3: it directly impacts the running of their companies. You see 270 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 3: companies become outspoken about all sorts of social issues, about 271 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 3: the voice, about same sex marriage, things that have really 272 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 3: got nothing to do with their core business. This does, 273 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 3: and so many corporates kept silent or jumped on the 274 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 3: green bandwagon. 275 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 5: Well, most of them are cowards. Most of them would 276 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 5: not stand up to government as we used to have. 277 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 5: Most of them followed the party line, and most of 278 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 5: them were drinking the kool aid wanting a clean green planet. 279 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 5: And the only business person who stood up was Geina 280 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 5: E Reinhardt and still does and we now have business 281 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 5: suffering as a result of them not standing up to 282 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 5: government saying look, this is silly. This is going to 283 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 5: cost jobs, this is going to cost our business. And 284 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 5: we are having a record number of bankruptcies. We're having 285 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 5: a record number of businesses closed down. And it's only 286 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 5: just now that they're standing up. What's probably too late 287 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 5: for most of them. 288 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 3: Now let's talk about veteran AGL Energy executive who's just 289 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 3: stepped down as a company's chief operating officer. Well, they've 290 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 3: spoken out about the company's efforts to strike a balance 291 00:14:54,880 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 3: between climate targets and energy security. Marcus broke Off told 292 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 3: The Australian three or four years ago the pendulum was 293 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 3: very much going in one direction in terms of ESG 294 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 3: that's Environmental, social and governance framework. Now I think the 295 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 3: focus is on what is achievable, and that's after he 296 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 3: spent five years leading the electricity giants green transition in 297 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 3: He also pulled cold water on major AGL shareholder Mike 298 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 3: cannon Brooks demands that the company speed up its green 299 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 3: energy roll out. But surely what is achievable should have 300 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 3: been at the forefront of their thinking. How could that 301 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 3: be an afterthought, after three or four years of going 302 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 3: down this mad road, and then suddenly realizing, well, then 303 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 3: what we've actually pledged to do isn't achievable. 304 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 5: Well, when we had cheap, reliable electricity, we had governments 305 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 5: mind the coal. We had government burn that coal to 306 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 5: make steam to drive a turbine to generate electricity. The 307 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 5: government's owned the power lines and the distribution networks. Governments 308 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 5: went broke spending our money and spending too much of it, 309 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 5: and so they sold off price assets, and they sold 310 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 5: off bit by bit. So now we have AGL generating 311 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 5: the electricity, but they don't control the power lines. And 312 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 5: so the people controlling the power lines we've got to 313 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 5: make a profit. The people distributing the power have to 314 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 5: make a profit. That's pushed up the price of electricity. 315 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 5: The second thing is that AGL only survives because of subsidies, 316 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 5: and the high electricity prices actually help governments making the 317 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 5: electricity prices high. And the third thing is AGL again 318 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 5: have been drinking the kool aid. They've been putting in 319 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 5: wind and solar in places which are prime agricultural land. 320 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 5: The costs have gone up, and blind Freddie could have 321 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 5: told them twenty five years ago that wind and solar 322 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 5: have to live on subodays. They don't live on the 323 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 5: wind and solar, they live on subsidies from the taxpayer, 324 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 5: and that ultimately is going to end. And if I 325 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 5: was a director of AGL, I would say, look, our 326 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 5: job is to make money. Our job is not to 327 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 5: please one active as shareholder Mike cannon brooks. Our job 328 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 5: is to provide reliable electricity, which I'm sure the contract 329 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 5: I had with the government originally said so. Their job 330 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 5: is to provide reliable electricity, not necessarily cheap, and their 331 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 5: jobs to give you a return to shareholders. Now, the 332 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 5: great risks the AGL has are that a new government 333 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,719 Speaker 5: will say no more subsidies. And that's the risk they 334 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 5: should have considered five years ago and should be hedging 335 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 5: their bits and still generating gas and coal rather than 336 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 5: shutting down cold. 337 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 3: Well, there wasn't much hedging happening at all in the 338 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 3: formation of these policies where you're looking at the government 339 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 3: or even the corporate sector, profac the employment. 340 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time. Thank you still 341 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 2: to come. 342 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 3: Lefties Losing ad plus the latest from the US, including 343 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 3: another example of leftist political violence. 344 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 2: Josh Hammer is the details. 345 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 3: You're watching the Reader Paney Show, and it's time for 346 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 3: lefties losing it. And I'm afraid the miserable miscreens of 347 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 3: the celebrity world have had a rough couple of days 348 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 3: that have been railing against democracy again and uttering words 349 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 3: they do not understand. 350 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 2: Here is Jane Fonda. 351 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 8: Our industry is ready to mobilize and to resist autocracy, 352 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 8: to resist attacks on our fundamental freedoms. We're artists, we're creatives. 353 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 8: Freedom of expression is essential to what we do. Many 354 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 8: of our fathers and grandfathers fought wars to defend this 355 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 8: right and we can't just sit back and let this happen. 356 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 8: And it's moving fast. This isn't a creeping totalitarianism. This 357 00:18:56,040 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 8: is fast moving consolidation of ATTOQ, and that means we 358 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 8: have to move fast. 359 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 2: You know what's not moving fast? 360 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 3: Jane's space, Go easy with the fillers and the bobo lady, 361 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,719 Speaker 3: good lord. It's becoming difficult to tell a Madonna apart 362 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 3: these days. And of course any celebrity spouting far left 363 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 3: nonsense is given a platform to spew that on CNN. 364 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 8: He has a massing power in a way that will 365 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 8: destroy our democracy, and so we're going to stand up. 366 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 8: We want to move forward with love, with unity, with solidarity, 367 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 8: and we want to encourage everybody else and all the 368 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 8: other sectors of this country to do the same. You know, 369 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 8: we don't want to be a pillar of support to 370 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 8: this regime that's forming. 371 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 3: You know, these people really do exist in a parallel universe. 372 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 3: Do they think the Hollywood mindset is the majority? Do 373 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 3: they have no respect for democracy and the fact that 374 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 3: Donald Trump is in power because he won an election 375 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 3: in a landslide despite his opponent outspending him by a 376 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 3: huge margin, now to another dim witted, hopelessly out of touch, 377 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 3: aging celebrity who seems to think he speaks for the masses. 378 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 3: Here is Hollywood has been a hysterical Hollywood has been 379 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 3: claiming that Trump has a dark presence and he has 380 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 3: destroyed America. Here is Richard Gere, Are. 381 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 2: Worry about what's happening in the US? 382 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 3: Are you worried? 383 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 4: Of course? 384 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 3: No? 385 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 4: I mean this is we have a president who's completely 386 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 4: is not only crazy, he's a dark, dark presence, and 387 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:40,959 Speaker 4: it's happened so quickly six months He's almost destroyed our country. 388 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 3: Yes, secure borders and a return to manufacturing will destroy America. 389 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 3: I guess we shouldn't be surprised because this is a 390 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 3: sort of reckless, near Marxist activism we've come to expect 391 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 3: from Richard Gere. Remember this, it's almost an ad for 392 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 3: illegal immigration. 393 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 2: Watch this people that you've seen here on this boots. 394 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 4: They're only here because of the donations to OP and Arams, 395 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 4: the work that often MS does. 396 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 9: The most important thing for these people here is you'll 397 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 9: be able to get to a free point, to be 398 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 9: able to get off the votes, get on land and 399 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 9: start a new life, taking care of and make a 400 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 9: life for themselves. 401 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 4: So support us. 402 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 3: Here Now to the woman who wanted to be president 403 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 3: but failed abysmally despite spending one point five billion dollars 404 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 3: out spending Donald Trump by an enormous margin, only to lose, lose, lose. 405 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 3: She lost the Electoral College by big margin, lost every 406 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 3: swing state, even lost the popular vote. But somehow Kamala 407 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 3: Harris is out there repeating a verifiable lie claiming that 408 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four was the closest presidential election of the 409 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 3: century and Donald Trump does not have a mandate. 410 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 2: She really is rather mad. 411 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 10: And here's the other thing that is quite unprecedented, and 412 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 10: it was the tightest, closest. 413 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 2: Incredible. 414 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 3: She knows that's a lie, and she keeps repeating it 415 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 3: because Kamala thinks lefties are too dumb to know any better, 416 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 3: or she's genuinely that ignorant herself. Now, I know a 417 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 3: lot of you had high hopes for the new pope 418 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 3: after the incessant leftist activism of his predecessor, But I 419 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 3: tried to warn you Pope Leo is cut from the 420 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 3: same cloth. At a time when Christians are being persecuted 421 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 3: and slaughtered from Africa to Asia to the Middle East, 422 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 3: Leo is blessing a block of ice in the name 423 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 3: of climate justice. Joining me now is Newsweek's senior editor 424 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 3: at Large and article three projects Inier Council. 425 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 2: Josh Hammer. 426 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 3: Josh, what do you make of that performance, Pope Leo 427 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 3: engaging in the bizarre antiques of blessing blocks of eyes 428 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,719 Speaker 3: a glacier in the name of climate justice. 429 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 11: Yeah, it's really quite beyond Parry on the one hand, Rida, 430 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 11: on the other hand, this is sadly the kind of 431 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 11: thing that we expect from many global leaders, including many 432 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 11: many liberal popes. I mean this kind of thing that 433 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 11: we certainly would expected from Pope Francis, I mean, who 434 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 11: was about as loved as it gets. Unfortunately, I think 435 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 11: I think many of us had higher expectations for Pope Leo. 436 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 11: I mean, after all these the first American born pot 437 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 11: from Chicago, maybe has some good old fashioned American Midwestern sensibility. 438 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 11: But unfortunately, either what we've seen thus far has not 439 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 11: exactly You've been particularly inspiring, has it been? 440 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 2: You know? 441 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 11: I think the irony is that when you think about 442 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 11: Biblical religion, Judaism and Christianity, postism, the thoughts and whatever 443 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 11: it is here. You know, in a lot of ways, 444 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 11: the entire purpose of the introduction of monotheism to the 445 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 11: world was to do away with the paganism of old. 446 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 11: But really, if you think about it's so called climate change, 447 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 11: the greeny radicalism, the global warring agenda, it's really just refashioned, 448 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 11: repackaged paganism, because they're not actually worshiping the God in 449 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 11: the heavens, are they? They're actually worshiping the earth, And 450 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 11: they have all these weird rituals there. And you get 451 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 11: expelled from being a member of good society for sinning, 452 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 11: and you have to atone it had all of the 453 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 11: basic elements of a religion. It's kind of just the 454 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 11: perverse inversion of the religion. Once upon time, you would 455 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 11: have expected, I don't know the pope. I mean, you 456 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 11: would expect the pope to have to understand this right, 457 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 11: but unfortunately that's not what this pope busesparing only and 458 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 11: that makes you quite said. 459 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, the religious zealotry of the green movement is undeniable, 460 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 3: and the way they treat their heretics is pretty clear 461 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 3: to see as well that Pope Leo was speaking at 462 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 3: a climate conference where he said we must listen to 463 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 3: the cry of the earth. But he also passed comment 464 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 3: on US domestic politics. He said this, He said, someone 465 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 3: who says that I'm against abortion, but I'm in agreement 466 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 3: with the inhuman treatment of immigrants in the United States, 467 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 3: I don't know if that's pro life. Josh, you're a 468 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 3: man of faith. How do you respond to those comments? 469 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm so sick of all these ridiculous comments. You 470 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 11: can't be pro life if you don't agree with me 471 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 11: on some totally unrelated stands. Read a few months ago 472 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 11: at the turning point in USA student Action summon in Tampa. 473 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 11: I debated Dave Smith, libertarian provocateur, and he tried this 474 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 11: same thing with the audience there. He said, you can't 475 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 11: be pro life and simultaneously support to Israel's war against 476 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 11: Hamas and Gaza. He actually got booed for saying that 477 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 11: at the conference, and that was to the crowd's great credit. 478 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 11: So too, I would boom Pope Leo, excuse me. If 479 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 11: I saw him in person there would boo him in 480 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 11: his face for sex as well. These things have nothing 481 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 11: to do on their literally nothing. By the way, I 482 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 11: would actually counter if you want to play this game, 483 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 11: this is a very dumb game to play. But if you 484 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 11: actually want to play this game, you want to go 485 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 11: down the rabbit hole of saying that you're not pro 486 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 11: life if you don't agree with my stance on immigration. 487 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 11: I would challenge the Holy Father as saying the following, 488 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 11: is it pro life to embolden and encourage the worst 489 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 11: international human trafficking rings? The drug cartels, the Sinaloa cartel, 490 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 11: El Jalisco, all the various cartels that are taking innocent 491 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 11: women and children and young menzuela but often win and 492 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 11: children and gang raping them and using them as mules 493 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 11: for coyotes and gain them across the border in horrific, 494 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 11: inhumane fashion. There Where is the justice in that? Where 495 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 11: is the genusis one? Twenty seven? Men and woman are alike, 496 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 11: are made in the image of God. Where is that? 497 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 11: And that there? So you know, frankly, Rita, I think 498 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 11: it's actually more prolite to support the nation state, to 499 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 11: support borders there because traditionally speaking, when nations exist in 500 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 11: secure borders, and crucially they respect each other sovereignty in 501 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 11: each other's borders, that is the recipe for human dinity, 502 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 11: which is kind of the quintessential pro life value. 503 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 2: Josh. 504 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 3: Sticking with religious leaders playing politics, let's hear from Chicago 505 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,959 Speaker 3: priest father Michael Felger attacking President Trump. 506 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 12: The state of emergency is in America, not Chicago, and 507 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 12: his birth from this president and his administration. Doctor King 508 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 12: said he could not raise his voice against the violence 509 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 12: of the oppressed without having first spoken clearly to the 510 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 12: greater purveyor of violence his own country. And those are 511 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 12: my words to you, mister Trump, before you dare speak 512 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 12: about any violence in Chicago, look into your mirror and 513 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 12: what the violence coming from the White House. 514 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 3: Josh, the father there is a controversial figure, having faced 515 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 3: a number of serious allegations in the past. But what 516 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 3: do you make of his intervention in the politics in 517 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 3: the US again with President Trump wanting to enforce law 518 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 3: and order measures in Chicago and he's coming out and saying, no, 519 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 3: the violence is actually emanating from the Oval Office. 520 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 11: Well, first of all, I literally don't know what he's 521 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 11: talking about. I mean, I'm not playing to be like 522 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 11: I actually do not know what he's talking about. I mean, 523 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 11: what is the alleged violence that is seeping out via 524 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 11: some osmosis process out of sixteen hundred Pennsylvania Avenue. I mean, 525 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 11: I'm pretty sure that the guy who killed my friend 526 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 11: Charlie Kirk was a left wing fanatic. I'm pretty sure 527 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 11: the guy that killed two Israeli Embussy staffers in Washington, 528 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 11: c in May was a left wing fanatic. And on 529 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 11: and on we go. The political violence in America right now, 530 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,479 Speaker 11: Rita is not coming from the Trump White House, is 531 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 11: not coming from the j six serves, is not coming 532 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 11: from conservatives in general. It is coming from the political left. 533 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 11: Polling bears us out over and over and over and again. 534 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 11: We see every poll that shows that left wingers increasingly 535 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 11: say that speech is the same thing as violence, and 536 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 11: that therefore, if speech is equiped with violence, and the 537 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 11: proper response to speech that you don't like is not 538 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 11: speech but violence, this is horrific. This is frankly how 539 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 11: free societies die. So I literally don't know what he's 540 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 11: talking about. He probably should look in a mirror. And 541 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 11: I would also say to kind of go back to 542 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,479 Speaker 11: the whole religious thing here. Again, this is a preestis 543 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 11: this is someone who I presume has read, has read 544 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 11: the Bible there, Well, he's in Chicago, Well, he should 545 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 11: probably be familiar with the Book of Jeremiah. Jeremiah chapter 546 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 11: twenty nine famously exhorts individuals and says you should focus 547 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 11: on the welfare of your own city, because there in 548 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 11: your own city you shall find peace and you shall 549 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 11: seek welfare. It's a federalist kind of exhortation. If you 550 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 11: it is urging people to focus on your locality, on 551 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 11: your own city. There, Well, this guy should be less 552 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 11: focused on Washington, d c. And less focus on his 553 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 11: alleged issues with the White House and focus a little 554 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 11: more on his own backyard. I went to law school 555 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 11: in Chicago, I lived there for three years. Let me 556 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 11: tell you, south Side Chicago is a war zone. It 557 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 11: is a veritable war zone. It is horrifically. I have 558 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 11: not been back to the city in three and a 559 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 11: half years. I'm not sure, Frank you when the next 560 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 11: time I will go back is It's an absolute catastrophe. 561 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 11: And if this guy wants to talk about violence, well 562 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 11: I would encourage him to get out of whatever kind 563 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 11: of tony upscale suburb he probably lives in, go to 564 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 11: Southside Chicago and report back to US Chicago. 565 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 3: You look at the crime rate there, Josh, it is 566 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 3: just appalling. Every weekend there seems to be a spate 567 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 3: of mass shootings, gang violence, innocent people being caught up. 568 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 3: And for a priest to be grand standing on an 569 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 3: anti Trump agenda, it just seems like he likes the 570 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 3: cameras there a little bit too much. Now we featured 571 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 3: earlier in the program, I mean left his celebrities losing 572 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 3: their teeny tiny minds, from Richard gear to Ariana Grande 573 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 3: to something called bad Bunny. Hollywood is not relenting one bit. 574 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 3: They're happy to ignore or even condemn more than half 575 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 3: the country. There's a real disconnect between the celebrity, media, 576 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 3: class and reality. 577 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 2: How sustainable is that, Josh. 578 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 11: Well, it's not sustainable. I mean, at some point it's 579 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 11: going to be a market correction, right, I mean, and 580 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 11: this is this is how market forces work, is that 581 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 11: when there are a lot of people demanding something and 582 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 11: there's not supply, the naturally there's going to be some 583 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 11: suppliers there. Now, there have been some folks. Reader, I 584 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 11: think you and I are both big country music fans. 585 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 11: You know, there have been some country music stars, for instance, 586 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 11: we've kind of gone out of their way to try 587 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 11: to console Erica Kirk, the widow of Charlie Kirk, Jason 588 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 11: al Dean, Morgan Wallen, among others. 589 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 9: There. 590 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 11: So there's something of a counterculture in the music space. 591 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 11: At least there's something of counterculture developing there. Certainly, the 592 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 11: NFL has very much put its foot in its mouth, 593 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 11: the National Football League in deciding that Bad Bunny is 594 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 11: going to be the Super Bowl halftime show next year. Now, 595 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 11: for what it's worth, I actually was pleasant surprised by 596 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 11: Bad Bunny's cameo performance, and Happy Gilmour too when he 597 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 11: was Adam Sandler's caddy. I thought that was kind of 598 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 11: an enjoyable role for him there, But I don't like 599 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 11: it when Bad Bunny opens his mouth about politics because 600 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 11: he's typically preaching a vehementally anti ice, pro anarchy, anti 601 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 11: law enforcement, anti nation state, frankly many ways his anti 602 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 11: Western civilization message. So if the National Football League, which 603 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 11: is by far America's most popular sport, if they're trying 604 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 11: to find a unifying cultural figure, which is probably a 605 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 11: good idea in a moment like a super Bowl, the 606 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 11: most Washington in America, if not the whole world there, 607 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 11: you probably want to find someone who's not going to 608 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 11: alienate and tick off frankly half the country there. He's 609 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 11: not a very good choice for that, is he? 610 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: There? 611 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 11: So a massive enforced ara by the National Football League. 612 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 11: But you know, this is a sporting league that still 613 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,239 Speaker 11: has end racism and blazoned in the end zones as 614 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 11: a throwback George Floyd are dearly departed martyr from the 615 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 11: summer of twenty twenty. So they haven't really learned a 616 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 11: whole lot of lessons now. 617 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 3: No, they are slow learners and not only picking this activist, 618 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 3: but it's an activist who is not exactly a household name. 619 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 3: I don't think most football fans are going to be 620 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 3: overly familiar with Bad Bunnies music. So it's supposed to 621 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 3: be an honor that goes to the cream of the crop, 622 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 3: the very best musicians in the industry, and this one 623 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 3: is definitely a strange choice. Now we're talking about political 624 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 3: violence before. Virginia's Democratic nominee for Attorney General, j Jones, 625 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 3: is being backed by key Democrats despite his horrific text 626 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 3: messages being exposed where he said just shocking things Josh. 627 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 2: Including hoping former Republican. 628 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 3: House Speaker Todd Gilbert's children would die, and he also 629 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 3: said that such grief might be a good thing if 630 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 3: it advanced his politics. This is just does when do 631 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 3: you think you can't be shocked anymore? 632 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 2: Even you're shocked, you. 633 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 11: Know, I think Rita that a lot of folks on 634 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,879 Speaker 11: the left, when folks when we and the right, when 635 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,479 Speaker 11: we say that some folks on the left actually want 636 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 11: us dead, like they literally want to kill us, A 637 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 11: lot of them say, oh my god, what are you 638 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 11: talking about? I mean, what kind of monsters do you 639 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 11: think we are? 640 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:24,919 Speaker 1: There? 641 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 11: Well, this is who we think you are. I mean, 642 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 11: this is literally who we think you are. Is that 643 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 11: is that people who have Freudian slips, or maybe it's 644 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 11: not even a Freudian slip. Actually, maybe they're saying it 645 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 11: on the opening for the simple reason they happen to 646 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 11: believe it, that they actually want their political opponents to 647 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 11: be dead. I mean, this is the natural consequence of 648 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 11: a worldview that has no room to kind of get 649 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 11: back to our earlier conversation for a biblical, godly worldview 650 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 11: that has no room for the Genesis one twenty seven 651 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,280 Speaker 11: notion that we are all human beings made the image 652 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 11: of God, that we all have human dignity and self worth, 653 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 11: that we're entitled to have differences of opinions when it 654 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 11: comes to taxation policy or or social credits or this 655 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 11: or that. 656 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:02,399 Speaker 8: There. 657 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,879 Speaker 11: That doesn't mean that we deserve to die for our 658 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 11: political views there. But when you forsake God and the 659 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 11: transcendental and you also again equate speech with violence, you're 660 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 11: going to get to a very very very unhealthy place there. 661 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 11: This guy really, really really should get out of the race. 662 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 11: I think the most appalling thing Rita, as we alluded to, 663 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 11: is that I can't identify a single big name democratic 664 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 11: figure who has encouraged him to do so. Yet that 665 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 11: is really really troubling. Surely there is at least one 666 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,760 Speaker 11: at least one senior elder statesman in the Democratic Party 667 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 11: who can look at this soberly and say, uh huh, 668 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,760 Speaker 11: that's not what we're about there. But thus far, Rita, 669 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 11: that person has not yet arisen. 670 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 13: Well. 671 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 3: Virginia's Republican Lieutenant Governor Winsom Seas had this to say 672 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 3: about Jay Jones and the Democrats hateful violent ritoric. 673 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 10: The calls for hate and violence are coming from the 674 00:35:55,080 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 10: mouths of the Democrat Party's leaders, and j. Jones is 675 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:07,280 Speaker 10: just the most recent and his wish for violent acts. 676 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 2: The most clear. 677 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 10: So if you can't solve a problem, you can't name it, 678 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 10: but I will and here and now. The leadership of 679 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 10: the Democrat Party has become consumed with hate. 680 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 3: And when some Seas also called out the Democrat leadership 681 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 3: who are also guilty of inciting violence. 682 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 10: Try to name a Democrat leader who hasn't called the 683 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 10: president Hitler. Try to name one who hasn't said Republicans 684 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 10: and our policies are an existential threat to democracy. No, 685 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 10: I am not saying Democrat leaders are committing violence. 686 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 2: Although J. 687 00:36:54,600 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 10: Jones fantasizes about murdering Republican children. 688 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 3: Joshua, really haven't seen a change in tone from the 689 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 3: left after the assassination attempts against Donald Trump, and even 690 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 3: after the assassination of Charlie Kirk. They have continued with 691 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:19,800 Speaker 3: this retoric, labeling their political opponents fascists, threats to democracies, 692 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 3: modern day Hitler's, knowing that their supporter base, certainly segments 693 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 3: of it, are prone to acts of violence. 694 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 11: Correct, And I think back to Pennsylvania. I think back 695 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 11: to the Butler Pennsylvania July twenty twenty four, when Donald 696 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 11: Trump moves his head a millimeter one direction and miraculously 697 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:45,879 Speaker 11: escapes and assassins bullets by literally millimeters there. And that 698 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 11: wouldn't that, in theory, would have been the moment for 699 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 11: the left to look in the mirror and to call 700 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 11: out their own shark troops, the grassroots thugs, you know, 701 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 11: the Antifa, street thug wing of the movement to the 702 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 11: party and say this is enough, is enough already there. 703 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 11: We are going to compete with Republicans. We're gonna compete 704 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 11: with Trunk, compete with MAGA at the ballot box. When 705 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 11: it comes to the battle of ideas in the battle 706 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 11: of written op eds and videos whatever there, but we're 707 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 11: not gonna get involved when it comes to knives and 708 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 11: swords and rifles and bullets there. That would have been 709 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 11: the moment there. They didn't do that. They literally did 710 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 11: not do that. So I'm not the least bit surprised 711 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 11: that they have not done that in the aftermath of 712 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 11: Charlie Kirk's for a fake dout, because they've already shown 713 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 11: they have no interest in doing so. More generally, Rita, 714 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 11: I think back to the twenty twenty four election, just 715 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 11: a few months after Donald Trump miraculously survived well, I 716 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 11: guess both of the attentive sassations, especially the one in Butler, Pennsylvania. 717 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 11: There and Democrats of course lost all seven swing states. 718 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 11: They lost all the sun Belt swing states, all four 719 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 11: of them, all three of the russ Belts swing states 720 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 11: there now here we are coming up on one year 721 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 11: after the November twenty twenty four general election. There, just 722 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 11: as they have not changed their tune at all when 723 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,240 Speaker 11: it comes to political violence, have they learned a single 724 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 11: substantive lesson when it comes to public policy? Have they 725 00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,040 Speaker 11: actually changed their stance on a single issue of the 726 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 11: various culture war issues that they've lost so badly that 727 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 11: the ballot box on last November. When it comes to 728 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 11: open borders and immigration, when it comes to transgenderism, when 729 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 11: it comes to crime, when it comes to antifa, ice 730 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 11: far from its Look at Portland's Oregon right now, the 731 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 11: Portland police is literally not protecting federal facilities from anti 732 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 11: ice anarchic protesters there. 733 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 2: It's insane. 734 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,800 Speaker 11: They have learned absolutely nothing whatsoever in a lesson Until 735 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 11: they do so, at best, they're going to keep on 736 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 11: losing election after election. At worse, they're going to get 737 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:30,240 Speaker 11: more people killed. 738 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 2: Josh Shamma, thank you so much for your time tonight. 739 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 2: Thank you. Ed Still to come. 740 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 3: All your royal and celebrity news, including some cringe content 741 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 3: from Meghan markel kinseysco Field is up next. Welcome back. Now, 742 00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 3: let's have a look at Meghan mackl being weird and inauthentic. 743 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 3: Here she is swanning around like she's Queen Circe and 744 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 3: Game of Thrones. 745 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 2: And let's have a look at this rather awkward encounter 746 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 2: with Pierre palol Piccioli. He's the creative director of Balenciaga. 747 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 2: Oh yes, that was awkward. Let's have another look at it. 748 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 3: Let's bring in celebrity and royal commentator Kinsey Schofield. 749 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 2: Kinsey Megan Markle has. 750 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 3: Come under fire for attending the Blenciaga fashion show after 751 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 3: the brand sustained enormous reputational damage for producing disturbing ads 752 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,360 Speaker 3: featuring children. 753 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 2: What do you make of this whole saga? 754 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 13: I mean, yeah, the children were posed with teddy Bears 755 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 13: dressed in bondage style gear. It was predatory. And Megan 756 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 13: Markle is accepting an award as Humanitarian of the Year 757 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 13: on Thursday for protecting children online. She shouldn't be promoting 758 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 13: a brand accused of predatory behavior. How are you protecting 759 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 13: children when you were promoting a brand that was accused 760 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 13: of an appropriate behavior towards them. And it wasn't just 761 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,360 Speaker 13: the teddy Bear ad there was another. Their spring twenty 762 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 13: twenty three campaign included props referencing a US Supreme Court 763 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:38,320 Speaker 13: case on images of minors, along with disturbing artwork and books. 764 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 13: So I think you know to promote this, this brand 765 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:48,320 Speaker 13: that combines children with adult fames, who is guiding this woman, 766 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,280 Speaker 13: who is working with this woman? Because you certainly wouldn't 767 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,760 Speaker 13: see the Princess of Wales engaging with any company accused 768 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:56,719 Speaker 13: of such behavior. 769 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:00,120 Speaker 2: No, and it just a. 770 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 3: Simple Google search would have told her just how controversial 771 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 3: and divisive this brand is. 772 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,840 Speaker 2: Even people who are very. 773 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 3: Fashioned forward were disturbed by that ad campaign and precisely 774 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,399 Speaker 3: what they were trying to communicate with those images. Now, 775 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,400 Speaker 3: the Duchess of Sussex is also facing a backlash or 776 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,800 Speaker 3: posting a video of herself. 777 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,800 Speaker 2: Riding in a limo with her feet up near the. 778 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:33,319 Speaker 3: Prisian Tunnel where Princess Diana died. Kinsey, is that criticism 779 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:34,280 Speaker 3: a little bit unfair? 780 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 13: Look, this is the same woman that tells us she's 781 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 13: Diana two point zero. Shouldn't she be aware of something 782 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 13: like this? Also, this is the same town that her 783 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 13: mother in law passed away in. Prince Harry says it 784 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:53,840 Speaker 13: was due to paparazzi and Megan's literally cheasing these flashbulbs 785 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,239 Speaker 13: throughout the city and then you know she's one mile 786 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 13: away in that video from where Princess Diana, you know, 787 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 13: had her last breath, lost her life. I think it 788 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 13: is insensitive and I think she tries to sell us 789 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 13: on the fact that she, you know, is so compassionate 790 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:15,399 Speaker 13: so empathetic. She takes the everyday things and makes them 791 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 13: special because she just it puts that much more thought 792 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 13: into it. Well, how about having some thought towards your 793 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 13: husband's feelings when you're in the same city his mom 794 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:29,400 Speaker 13: died in running around having a joy ride in Paris, 795 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,359 Speaker 13: near where she lost her life. If she didn't try 796 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 13: to paint herself as Diana two point zero, I would say, like, 797 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 13: you guys, this is a stretch. Yeah, but she's constantly 798 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 13: telling us that she's the new Diana Kinsey. 799 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:45,719 Speaker 2: I think you may be right. 800 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,920 Speaker 3: Megan Michael is gonna love this week. All eyes will 801 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 3: be on her. She had the weird white outfit, she 802 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 3: had the sexy black backless outfit, and I think she's 803 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 3: enjoying the attention. 804 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 2: Now, let's talk about Nicole Kidman. 805 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 3: She's made her first public appears instance filing for divorce 806 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,880 Speaker 3: from Keith Urban, presenting Taylor Sheridan, the executive producer of 807 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:10,359 Speaker 3: Kidman's new TV series Lines, with the Award of Inspiration. 808 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 3: This was at a benefit in Dallas which was raising 809 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 3: money for AIDS research. 810 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 2: Kinsey. 811 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 3: She made a point during that speech about the importance 812 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,280 Speaker 3: of looking out for each other. 813 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 13: All I can say is like she's coming out of 814 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:30,240 Speaker 13: this situation looking very clean, right, I mean Nicole, Nicole Kindman. 815 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:34,360 Speaker 13: She continues to show remarkable courage and resilience even in 816 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,360 Speaker 13: the face of another divorce, a high profile divorce. I 817 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 13: think the audience recognizes her tireless worth work, ethic, and 818 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,800 Speaker 13: the dedication she has to her craft. She's not only 819 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 13: thriving professionally, but proving that she has the strength and 820 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 13: talent to navigate these types of personal challenges. Meanwhile, you're 821 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 13: seeing these rumors circulating online. I'm seeing these rumors circulating online, 822 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,880 Speaker 13: a lot of negative reaction to kee Urban and you know, 823 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 13: I think she's going to come out on top of here. 824 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 3: Well, yes, I think she came out clean out of 825 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 3: the Tom Cruise divorce as well. The sympathy was with her, 826 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,640 Speaker 3: and if Keith has already moved on with a new woman, 827 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,879 Speaker 3: then yes, of course Nicole's going to win the sympathy there. 828 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 3: Now it seems the rumored romance between Katy Perry and 829 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,400 Speaker 3: Justin Trudeau is getting serious. 830 00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 2: We're now hearing details. 831 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 3: Of late night phone calls and thlirty text messages with 832 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 3: a source close to Katy Perry revealing that Katie is very, 833 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,800 Speaker 3: very interested in him. She says he's a real catch, 834 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 3: a high quality guy. Does that sound like a genuine 835 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:43,960 Speaker 3: source to you, Kinsey? 836 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,640 Speaker 13: Is it opposite day? Is it opposite day? 837 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:48,880 Speaker 2: Who are you talking to? 838 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 13: The Daily Mail? They said that they chat about their kids, 839 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,239 Speaker 13: their day to day lives, and hope to spend more 840 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 13: time together once her tour schedule eases up. The same 841 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 13: insider said that d Perry really does lay him a lot, 842 00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 13: and that their connection remains strong. I mean, what these 843 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:09,320 Speaker 13: two must talk about, for the love of God, I'm curious, 844 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 13: But you know, some might say that their relationship is 845 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,680 Speaker 13: out of this world because she's an astronaut. So we'll 846 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,319 Speaker 13: have to wait and see when they finally come out. 847 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,759 Speaker 2: Yes, I forgot that she's an astronaut. 848 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 3: That was about little period, wasn't it. Now she changed 849 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:33,319 Speaker 3: the world. Jane Fonda has revived the Committee for the 850 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 3: First Amendment, a cold worled era activist group founded by 851 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 3: her father, Henry and other Hollywood legends when they were 852 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:48,959 Speaker 3: allegedly being silenced by McCarthy. These clowns have paranoid delusions, 853 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,080 Speaker 3: Kinsey about being targeted by Trump. 854 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,719 Speaker 2: Hollywood is completely. 855 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 3: Controlled by the left, so much so that any dissenting 856 00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,759 Speaker 3: voice pays a very heavy price. Indeed, and really that's 857 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 3: the real McCarthyism, isn't it. 858 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,720 Speaker 13: Amen, I mean celebrity. What I would love to stress 859 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,360 Speaker 13: is celebrities and Hollywood do not care about the First 860 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 13: Amendment for normies. They only care when it affects one 861 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 13: of their own. This campaign is so disingenuous. If this 862 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 13: would have happened after the assassination of Charlie Kirk, I 863 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 13: would have been like, wow, thank you. Somebody was shot 864 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 13: in the throat because someone else didn't like what they 865 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 13: were saying and they took away their opportunity to speak. 866 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,279 Speaker 13: But Jimmy Kimmel was putting time out guys for just 867 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,799 Speaker 13: a couple of days. You know, I doubt he missed 868 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 13: a meal. So you just look at this and go 869 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 13: get a life. 870 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 3: Jane Fonda, and he was put out because he said 871 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,440 Speaker 3: something that was a lie and refused to apologize, was 872 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 3: going to double down, and it was a private company 873 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 3: making that decision. 874 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 2: And so this victim playing is just out off hand. 875 00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 3: Now I've got to just do a little bit of 876 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,920 Speaker 3: Tyler Swift and Travis Kelsey Let's have a look at 877 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:06,879 Speaker 3: the NFL star arriving at Arrowhead Stadium for a recent game, 878 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:13,359 Speaker 3: looking like an utter cringe clown love. 879 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:20,920 Speaker 2: Oh dear Kinsey. 880 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,919 Speaker 3: Taylor Swift's twelfth studio album, The Life of a Show Girl, 881 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,480 Speaker 3: is getting panned online. 882 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 2: This is very unusual. 883 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 3: Even some Swifties have called it her worst album. 884 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:34,319 Speaker 2: You're a fan, what do you think. 885 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,080 Speaker 13: I don't think it's her best. It's not my favorite, 886 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 13: but you've said it a million times like we love 887 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,640 Speaker 13: when Taylor's mad, We love when Taylor's bitter, and that's 888 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 13: not the place she's out in her life right now. 889 00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,800 Speaker 13: We need a break up album, is what I'm trying 890 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,920 Speaker 13: to say. Sorry, but you've seen the shorts. 891 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,680 Speaker 2: Oh we can't have that. She's just got engaged. 892 00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 3: We may have to just wait five to seven years 893 00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,399 Speaker 3: for this marriage to play out and then we'll get 894 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:03,239 Speaker 3: the killer album. Kinsy's go Field. Thanks so much for 895 00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,000 Speaker 3: your time. That's it for me. But before I go, 896 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,960 Speaker 3: Sky News will be screening a documentary called October eight 897 00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,239 Speaker 3: this Wednesday, which looks at the rise of anti Semitism 898 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 3: in the aftermath of the October seven attack two years ago. 899 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,960 Speaker 3: I'll see you tomorrow at eleven up. Next it's Newsnight.