WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 8 July

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome the Late Debate. Well, it's great to have your

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<v Speaker 1>company for another week.

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<v Speaker 2>On the Late Debate, I'm James Macpherson with Liz Stauer

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<v Speaker 2>and filling in for Caleb Bond is Joe Hilda brand Well.

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<v Speaker 2>If Cringe wins elections, then queens Land Premier Stephen Miles

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<v Speaker 2>is a shoe in for the October poll. We'll show

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<v Speaker 2>you his latest horrendous social media effort a little later. Plus,

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<v Speaker 2>when we look at the papers, young labor members in

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<v Speaker 2>revolt over Anthony Albanese's treatment of Fatima payment and Australian

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<v Speaker 2>military commanders warned that our bases are vulnerable to missile attacks.

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<v Speaker 1>But don't worry. In ten years we'll have adequate defense systems,

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<v Speaker 1>they say.

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<v Speaker 2>But first, let's talk about elections, because there's been a

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<v Speaker 2>couple in Europe. Both the French and the English went

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<v Speaker 2>to the polls with some interesting results in both instances.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk first about the French election, where.

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<v Speaker 2>Right wing National Rally We're expected to do very well

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<v Speaker 2>after leading at the first round, but on the weekend

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<v Speaker 2>it was the left's new Popular Front that won the

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<v Speaker 2>most seats, despite the Conservatives winning more votes. Now we'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk about what all of that means in a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>But first we've got to go to a few of

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<v Speaker 1>our lefty friends in France.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's one French lefty explaining just how happy they are

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<v Speaker 2>to have won more seats. Who and of course here's

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<v Speaker 2>his French colleague celebrating love and joy. That, of course

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<v Speaker 2>is a number of immigrants who also voted in the polls,

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<v Speaker 2>helping the left leaning parties to the most seats. But

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<v Speaker 2>this is how they displayed their joy at winning. So Liz,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll though you'll help us unpack the results in a moment.

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<v Speaker 2>But first, what is it with lefties? When they lose,

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<v Speaker 2>they riot, and when they win, they riot.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just how they're celebrate. They're really happy.

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<v Speaker 1>What's wrong with that?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, the French elections were rigged, pure and simple

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<v Speaker 4>when you look at the lead Lopez party had, and

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<v Speaker 4>we already knew that they'd done it very well because

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<v Speaker 4>last month in the EU elections, remember this map. The

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<v Speaker 4>only department Lapens National Rally lost in the European Union

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<v Speaker 4>elections just last month.

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<v Speaker 3>The only one they lost was Paris the blue.

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<v Speaker 4>There is every single seat that said we reject immigration

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<v Speaker 4>and the islamification of our country.

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<v Speaker 3>We want to take France back.

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<v Speaker 4>That was, of course, what triggered the French president saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>hang on a minute, let's just go to a snap

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<v Speaker 4>election because obviously people aren't supporting me. I'm not getting

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<v Speaker 4>the people's vote here. That's why we had this snap election.

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<v Speaker 4>But remember France has their elections a week apart, two

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<v Speaker 4>of them. If you get over fifty percent in a seat,

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<v Speaker 4>it's game over, red rover and that seat is spoken for.

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<v Speaker 4>In the seats that that doesn't happen, anyone who gets

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<v Speaker 4>over twelve point five is still in the running for

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<v Speaker 4>the next round. So what did mccron's party and their

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<v Speaker 4>cronies do. They withdrew over two hundred of their own

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<v Speaker 4>candidates because they didn't want to split the lefty vote

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<v Speaker 4>or basically any vote that would go to anyone but

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<v Speaker 4>Lapen's party that didn't want to split that vote. So

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<v Speaker 4>in the week between those two elections, they withdrew over

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<v Speaker 4>two hundred candidates, solidifying the vote.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's how they managed to win. I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 3>she still came.

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<v Speaker 5>Pretty effective tactic, though.

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<v Speaker 4>Isn't it That is that is Jobi Oki Peterson level

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<v Speaker 4>Jerryman as just.

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<v Speaker 6>Saying, we know that, we know this is not an

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<v Speaker 6>election that a centrist party can win. So we're just

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<v Speaker 6>going to pull out and let the hard right and

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<v Speaker 6>the hard left slog it out and the hard left

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<v Speaker 6>ragtag bunch that they are.

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<v Speaker 3>And I do not like the in other ways.

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<v Speaker 4>So and what the right is almost forty Frenchy's voted

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<v Speaker 4>for the Penn and yet she came third. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>when you look at the distribution of votes and how

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<v Speaker 4>they pulled this off, I just think, as the guy

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<v Speaker 4>who should be Prime Minister, Jordan Bardello, said, this was

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<v Speaker 4>an alliance of dishonor. That's what these guys did. They

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<v Speaker 4>gerry Man did the vote. That's how they got the

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<v Speaker 4>results that they did.

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<v Speaker 3>But of course Lippenn, true to form, she is undeterred.

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<v Speaker 6>MT and the.

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<v Speaker 1>Mayor and continue a Monte victor.

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<v Speaker 4>And while the left celebrated, there didn't seem to be

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<v Speaker 4>a French flag in sight.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's a frightening trend.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, there was a record number of immigrants who

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<v Speaker 4>voted in these French elections as well, which would have

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<v Speaker 4>also affected the vote very much. Lipenn's party being that

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<v Speaker 4>stood very firmly against mass immigration and indeed the Islamization

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<v Speaker 4>of France.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what she was.

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<v Speaker 4>Incredibly popular for and what most people know the party for.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's alarming because elections like this start to

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<v Speaker 4>wake people up to the simple fact of they can't

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<v Speaker 4>vote their way out of this. They can't vote their

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<v Speaker 4>way out of this, and no one can look on

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<v Speaker 4>in the coming years and say, oh, well, you got

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<v Speaker 4>what you're voted for, because they actually didn't. And it's

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<v Speaker 4>well said that those who make peaceful revolution impossible make

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<v Speaker 4>violent revolution inevitable.

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<v Speaker 3>Because the unrest.

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<v Speaker 4>In France you laughed, Joe, but the past growing.

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<v Speaker 3>For many years now.

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<v Speaker 4>I like many people keep up to date online watching

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<v Speaker 4>real stories on the streets of French. She's saying, our

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<v Speaker 4>country has lost, France has been conquered. Those people aren't

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<v Speaker 4>going to go quietly into the good night. And when

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<v Speaker 4>they see an election that has clearly been jerry manned

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<v Speaker 4>like this, you're you're stirring up a lot of.

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<v Speaker 6>But I think there's a difference between rigging an election

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<v Speaker 6>and actually just using what tactical what tactical weapons you

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<v Speaker 6>have available, what political strategies you have to get the

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<v Speaker 6>least worse result.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not rigging it.

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<v Speaker 5>That's not rigging the election. Ringing the election is doing

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<v Speaker 5>something it was permissible. That's right. It's not a jerry manner.

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry manner is appropriate is another?

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<v Speaker 5>But that's right. Is it decidrable? Yes? Is it illegal

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<v Speaker 5>or rig No?

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<v Speaker 6>Now, I think to be honest, the Left have probably

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<v Speaker 6>kicked a massive on goal by the way they've carried

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<v Speaker 6>on and the riots that they've done. They probably no

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<v Speaker 6>one will be able to form a government. It would

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<v Speaker 6>seem no one will work with each other. Already, the

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<v Speaker 6>new Popular Front is attacking Macron, who basically just got

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<v Speaker 6>them in a position to it does on government. Well,

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<v Speaker 6>who with no one's going to work with you because

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<v Speaker 6>the Front is not a united group of people.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got social you've got communists, all the.

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<v Speaker 6>Worst people you can possibly imagine, right, there's all these

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<v Speaker 6>are all the sort of people that you know. The

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<v Speaker 6>Labor Party has spent the last few decades trying to

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<v Speaker 6>expel from its party, and as we'll see later on,

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<v Speaker 6>hasn't done. They just keep finding their way back in.

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<v Speaker 6>So they're a terrible bunch of people. I think they

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<v Speaker 6>will be seen to be the angel the left, you

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<v Speaker 6>ask why they right even when they win, because the

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<v Speaker 6>hard left is just hardwired to protest. They actually don't

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<v Speaker 6>know what to do with power because they would have

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<v Speaker 6>nothing to actually protest against. This is why the Greens

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<v Speaker 6>can never ever hold government, and God willing, they will

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<v Speaker 6>never happen. But of course none of what they would

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<v Speaker 6>actually none of what they call for or what would

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<v Speaker 6>ever be workable in government, and what they really want

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<v Speaker 6>to do more than anything else is complain and say,

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<v Speaker 6>oh this is you know. I mean, the minute the

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<v Speaker 6>left is in control of the system, suddenly they can't

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<v Speaker 6>complain about the system oppressing them, which denies their entire

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<v Speaker 6>rays in detra that's a French term, by the way.

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<v Speaker 6>So they're sort of hardwired to be anti they're hardwired hate,

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<v Speaker 6>if you like, and that's why they're still going on

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<v Speaker 6>their spree. And that just makes le Pen and the

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<v Speaker 6>National Rally look better, look make them look like the

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<v Speaker 6>more mature party, will make them look like adults in

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<v Speaker 6>the room. And again, I would not like to see

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<v Speaker 6>another violent revolution in France because it's had more than

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<v Speaker 6>enough of those already over the years. But you know,

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<v Speaker 6>if they carry on like that, then I don't think

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<v Speaker 6>they will need a violent revolution. I think they can

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<v Speaker 6>just say, well, we got the most votes and look

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<v Speaker 6>at you, rabble, look at what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Timing of this is incredible, with the Olympic Games due

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<v Speaker 2>to start in only a couple of weeks and French

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<v Speaker 2>by some reports, completely ungovernable at the moment. As you said,

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<v Speaker 2>no one won the right to govern themselves. Let's go

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<v Speaker 2>to the UK where the election there was interesting as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Labor of course one as expected, but with only thirty

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<v Speaker 2>six percent of the vote and with only twenty percent

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<v Speaker 2>of eligible voters supporting them. Voter turnout was at sixty percent,

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<v Speaker 2>which is down massively on the last time the Brits

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<v Speaker 2>went to poll.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about that in a second.

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<v Speaker 2>On top of that, five pro Palestinian candidates one seats,

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<v Speaker 2>including Jeremy Corbyn. That has implications perhaps for Australia later on.

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<v Speaker 2>And then of course there was the interest around Nigel

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<v Speaker 2>Farage and the impact his campaign would have on Conservatives.

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<v Speaker 2>Now is Farrage won three point two million votes, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>but got only four seats compared to say, the Liberal

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats who got two point five million votes. A million

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<v Speaker 2>less but ended up with seventy eight seats. So you

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<v Speaker 2>reckon France is a little bit Jerry Mannered?

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<v Speaker 1>What on earth is it?

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<v Speaker 4>And then you've got sin Fine that got seven seats

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<v Speaker 4>with just two hundred and ten thousand votes.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what you're doing here?

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<v Speaker 4>Check out this graphic that someone did up saying this

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<v Speaker 4>is what the UK Parliament would look like if there

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<v Speaker 4>was proportional voting. These guys would have way less seats

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<v Speaker 4>than they ended up with, because when you look at

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<v Speaker 4>number of votes that they got versus the number of

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<v Speaker 4>seats that they get, it's simply hair raising.

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<v Speaker 3>And you see the problem.

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<v Speaker 4>With the first past the post system. That is where

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<v Speaker 4>this system that we've come up with simply falls.

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<v Speaker 1>I think in that.

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<v Speaker 2>Diagram, the light blue is the Reform Party. If they

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<v Speaker 2>got as many seats as votes would give them proportional.

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<v Speaker 4>The aqua there is what Nigel Farage would now be

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<v Speaker 4>sitting on if the vote count was proportional to the

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<v Speaker 4>amount of seats that they get. But it's absolutely hair

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<v Speaker 4>raising how many votes you get versus how many seats

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<v Speaker 4>you get.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that's the system that they've.

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<v Speaker 4>So but it again stands to reason there are a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of people in the UK now feeling like, well,

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<v Speaker 4>our votes don't count because we didn't have enough in

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<v Speaker 4>our small plot. And so despite the fact that Reform

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<v Speaker 4>UK had millions more votes, plenty of other parties got

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<v Speaker 4>heaps more seats.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank god they got it again.

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<v Speaker 5>That is how it works.

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<v Speaker 6>If you want proportional representation, abolish the House of Lords

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<v Speaker 6>and replace it with a Senate like we have, and

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<v Speaker 6>you will, and that's how you get the representation. That's why,

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<v Speaker 6>until sadly in recent years, that's why the Greens never

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<v Speaker 6>had a Lower House seat despite getting a ten or

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<v Speaker 6>fifteen percent of the vote for years and years and years,

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<v Speaker 6>until sadly that happened.

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<v Speaker 5>God help us well.

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<v Speaker 6>But again this is the whole thing, like you have

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<v Speaker 6>to if you are running in the Lower House and

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<v Speaker 6>you are running a campaign to try to and I

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<v Speaker 6>think Reform actually did quite well for a brand new

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<v Speaker 6>body for two weeks to get the sheer numbers that

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<v Speaker 6>did and to pick up seats at all is pretty good.

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<v Speaker 5>The Liberal Democrats are an.

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<v Speaker 6>Incredibly old, well established party, or the Liberals anyway, well

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<v Speaker 6>established party in the UK, and so they concentrate their

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<v Speaker 6>campaigns in electorates that or favor them. You've got heaps

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<v Speaker 6>of incumbent candidates. And again you ask why shin Fain had,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, got seats and Reform didn't get as many

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<v Speaker 6>or whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 5>She finds an Irish Nationalist party.

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<v Speaker 6>They ran in Ireland, they ran in Northern Ireland, which

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<v Speaker 6>is still represented. So that's why. That's just how it works.

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<v Speaker 6>That's just why you get there. You get local candidates

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<v Speaker 6>running local campaigns, often on local issues or issues that

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<v Speaker 6>are related to that region in the case of Ireland,

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<v Speaker 6>and that's just how it works.

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<v Speaker 4>If it's not how Tasmania gets as many senators as

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<v Speaker 4>every other study's.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, excuse me?

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<v Speaker 6>What you can stable?

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<v Speaker 5>How is that? That's right?

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<v Speaker 6>You can say, well, how is that fair or whatever,

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<v Speaker 6>but it doesn't mean again, it doesn't mean that it's

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<v Speaker 6>rigged or that is just the system that we have

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<v Speaker 6>if you want to change it and propose a different system.

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<v Speaker 6>It's like the candidate's winning about wins you about the

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<v Speaker 6>electoral college system in the UK when you know, because

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<v Speaker 6>this time they didn't win the presidency, Hillary Clinton, I'm

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<v Speaker 6>looking at you, so you know that is the system.

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<v Speaker 6>That is how it works. If you if you think

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<v Speaker 6>there should be proportional representation in the UK again, zack

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<v Speaker 6>the House of Lords replace them.

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<v Speaker 4>With an actual Well, that's never going to happen, but

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<v Speaker 4>it certainly does highlights you. When you've got Lib Dems

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<v Speaker 4>sitting on seventy seven seats, when they got less votes

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<v Speaker 4>than Reform you Gay, which is sitting on five.

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<v Speaker 6>That's right, but they got them where they got those votes,

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<v Speaker 6>where it counted and where it mattered.

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<v Speaker 2>And so you've got the new Prime Minister of the UK, Kiirstarmer, who,

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<v Speaker 2>as I said, got a very small proportion of votes really,

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<v Speaker 2>but an overwhelming majority.

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<v Speaker 1>He said in an.

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<v Speaker 2>Interview that if he had to choose between being Prime

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<v Speaker 2>Minister or hanging with the folk in DeVos, well here

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<v Speaker 2>he is.

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<v Speaker 3>Have a listen, let us just ask you quickly.

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<v Speaker 7>You have to choose now between DeVos or Westminster Davos.

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<v Speaker 7>Why because Westminster is too constrained and you know it's

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<v Speaker 7>closed and we're not having many Once you get out

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<v Speaker 7>of Westminster, whether it's Tavis or anywhere else, you actually

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<v Speaker 7>engage with people that you can see working with in

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<v Speaker 7>the future of Westminster as a tribal shouting please.

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<v Speaker 2>So Liz, You've got the new Prime Minister of England

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<v Speaker 2>on records saying, if I had to choose between hanging

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<v Speaker 2>with my British colleagues.

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<v Speaker 1>Or being part of the World Economic Forum.

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<v Speaker 2>And Davos, I'd rather be part of the World Economic Film.

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<v Speaker 4>This guy is a Schwab loyalist. He's a World Economic

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<v Speaker 4>for it, he's a globalist. He does nothing to hide that.

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<v Speaker 4>They're very proud of it. He goes to Davos, he

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<v Speaker 4>contributes on their panels.

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<v Speaker 3>But here we have him now, a sitting PM who's

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<v Speaker 3>on record saying I'd rather deal.

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<v Speaker 4>With those guys because in Parliament people just agree.

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<v Speaker 3>With me and there's shouting matches. In Davos, we're all.

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<v Speaker 4>On the same page, marching out a gender twenty thirty.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all marvelous.

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<v Speaker 1>To be fair, there's not many in the British parments.

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<v Speaker 1>I dist agree with him now because.

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<v Speaker 4>So not at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Majority. I think it's important that people know who he

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<v Speaker 3>is and what he stands for.

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<v Speaker 6>And that's saying the exact same thing that Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 6>is saying when he says drain the swap.

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<v Speaker 5>You can't trust Washington.

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<v Speaker 6>He's saying that he's saying that Sminster is the same

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<v Speaker 6>as full of tribal clicks, people who vote according to

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<v Speaker 6>factional loyalties.

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<v Speaker 5>Part I know, it's just part of what he's saying.

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<v Speaker 6>He's saying Davas, and he's explicitly says Davos or anywhere

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<v Speaker 6>else he said, being able to deal with big ideas,

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<v Speaker 6>being able to do things without being constrained by those

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<v Speaker 6>he is obviously been tough.

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<v Speaker 4>He was asked Parliament Westminster Davas and.

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<v Speaker 5>He goes on to say, and people would have heard.

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<v Speaker 3>It for themselves.

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<v Speaker 6>That's right, because he's saying that he's complaining about politics

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<v Speaker 6>being so constrained.

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<v Speaker 3>That's clearly what's Davos. They're all on a unity ticket with.

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<v Speaker 6>All the there's more potential for actual real there's.

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<v Speaker 5>More potential for actual real change.

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<v Speaker 6>And I'll tell you what, Keir Starma is the best

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<v Speaker 6>thing to have into the British Labor Party, the UK

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<v Speaker 6>Labor Party since Tony Blair. If you if you don't,

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<v Speaker 6>if you think he's left wing, you should have seen.

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<v Speaker 5>The last guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh please, Yes.

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<v Speaker 6>He've got elected by the way, on a pro Palactindian ticket.

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<v Speaker 6>Another party rat believe it or not. If you want

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<v Speaker 6>to see what could be heading our way in Australia.

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<v Speaker 6>Jeremy Corbyn, the man who supposedly Labor to his bootstraps,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, the grand old comrade Corbyn turned out to

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<v Speaker 6>be a dirty little Labor rat, lost the leadership and

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<v Speaker 6>betrayed his party, ran against it as an independent in

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<v Speaker 6>his seat on a pro Palestine ticket. Of course, he's

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<v Speaker 6>not just pro Palestine. His pro any rubbishy socialist tinpot dictatorship,

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<v Speaker 6>as fewed in South America is pretty fond of. And

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<v Speaker 6>he was one of five who got up, and that

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<v Speaker 6>is who would have been the leader of the Labor

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<v Speaker 6>Party had good old kiss.

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<v Speaker 5>Darma got up still leader he got he.

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<v Speaker 6>Nearly got up. Jeremy Corbyn nearly got up. It was

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<v Speaker 6>one of the biggest scared.

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<v Speaker 2>Ki Is Starma got up because the Conservatives were so

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<v Speaker 2>inept and they really they didn't fail. They betrayed the

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<v Speaker 2>British public. Kirs Starma is comparatively boring and bland pair

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<v Speaker 2>of hands. Nigel Faraj is the only real leader I

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<v Speaker 2>have scene these days, and just.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank god that he made it in because the next

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<v Speaker 4>few years are going to be very interesting with that

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<v Speaker 4>man in the House of Lord's taking them on to

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<v Speaker 4>the Northern.

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<v Speaker 3>Territory now with the police Commissioner.

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<v Speaker 4>Has once again called for a curfew. Here's him explaining why.

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<v Speaker 8>But unfortunately, in the last seventy two hours, we've seen

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<v Speaker 8>some significant harm and civil disturbances. On Friday afternoon, we

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<v Speaker 8>saw a police officer who was conducting his duties run

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<v Speaker 8>over by a vehicle, suffering a fracture to his leg

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<v Speaker 8>and his arm. He's in hospital still and he'll take

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<v Speaker 8>some time to recover. On Saturday evening, we saw a

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<v Speaker 8>large scale disturbance involving up to eighty people on the

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<v Speaker 8>council lawns and our springs.

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<v Speaker 4>But as Senator just Enterprise said today, and this was

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<v Speaker 4>a really good point, she said, look, it's one thing

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<v Speaker 4>to put a curfew in place, but unless you are

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<v Speaker 4>addressing the underlying issues of why that curfew is necessary,

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<v Speaker 4>what are you going to do? Just live with a

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<v Speaker 4>permanent curfew or understandably it worked last time they saw

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<v Speaker 4>things settle down after curfew was put on place, they

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<v Speaker 4>lifted it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's back in place.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, but the issue underlying isn't being addressed, and therefore

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<v Speaker 4>who's to say we're not just going to be in

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<v Speaker 4>this endless cycle of curfew lifted.

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<v Speaker 6>That's definitely what it would be. This is why the

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<v Speaker 6>left lost the voice. And it was just an absolute

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<v Speaker 6>tragedy to behold because for years and years and years,

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<v Speaker 6>the trendy left, most of whom have not even visited

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<v Speaker 6>any of these communities, have refused to acknowledge the extremity

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<v Speaker 6>and the causes of Indigenous disadvantage, of the violence, of

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<v Speaker 6>the alcohol abuse and other substance abuse, things like the

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<v Speaker 6>stratospherically high rates of domestic violence and Indigenous communities compared

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<v Speaker 6>to non Indigenous communities. And I've been just enterprise and

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<v Speaker 6>I were on a unity ticket trying to raise awareness

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<v Speaker 6>of this and talk about this stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>And you would have social.

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<v Speaker 6>Media warriors, social justice warriors on social media just swearing

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<v Speaker 6>till they're blue in the face, just saying, oh no, no,

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<v Speaker 6>it's no worse in Aboriginal communities than it is anywhere else.

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<v Speaker 6>And there was racist to even suggest such a thing.

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<v Speaker 6>I had one person. I'll never forget it. It's like,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, there were all these stats on you know

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<v Speaker 6>how Indigenous women in some areas we know thirty percent,

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<v Speaker 6>thirty times more likely to be hospitalized because of domestic

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<v Speaker 6>violence than non indigenous in remote regional areas. And so

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<v Speaker 6>all these statistics, they're all out there, all these official

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<v Speaker 6>Australian Institute of Health and Welfare, you know, Institute Criminology,

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<v Speaker 6>like all these official stats out there that just no

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<v Speaker 6>one talks about.

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<v Speaker 5>And I had people say, oh, but how do we

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<v Speaker 5>know that.

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<v Speaker 6>It's Indigenous men committing indigenous violent domestic violets against these

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<v Speaker 6>Indigenous women. Maybe it's white guys coming into these communities

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<v Speaker 6>committing all this violence against the women and then just

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<v Speaker 6>disappearing into the night peraths.

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<v Speaker 5>This is how cooked people were.

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<v Speaker 6>And then you have a proposal like the Voice, which

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<v Speaker 6>is actually meant to be a circuit breaker, and say, right,

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<v Speaker 6>we need to we need you know, we need to

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<v Speaker 6>listen to people on the ground on how to fix

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<v Speaker 6>these problems. For most of Australia, and indeed for most

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<v Speaker 6>of the trendy left who were dominating the debate, they

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<v Speaker 6>weren't even being told that these problems existed, let alone

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<v Speaker 6>the extent of them. So you had, you know, you

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<v Speaker 6>suddenly had the Voice, which was a solution to a

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<v Speaker 6>problem that the left. The same people now suddenly championing

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<v Speaker 6>the voice suddenly wouldn't even allow to acknowledge existed, were

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<v Speaker 6>denying it actually existed. And so then, of course, in

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<v Speaker 6>their cooked little minds, the voice suddenly becomes instead of

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<v Speaker 6>being a practical instrument to address these disadvantage and address

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<v Speaker 6>these problems, it then becomes about historical restitution or setting

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<v Speaker 6>things right past historical mistakes. And of course at that

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<v Speaker 6>moment you've completely lost the argument, because no one who

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<v Speaker 6>is voting now is alive back then, and the vast

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<v Speaker 6>majority of migrant voters, as we saw from the breakdown

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<v Speaker 6>of who voted against it, said what the hell are

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<v Speaker 6>you telling My family came here after the Second World War.

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<v Speaker 6>I had nothing to do with seven natiy So they

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<v Speaker 6>have they have literally got blood on their hands.

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<v Speaker 2>Hosted Kredlin receiving and spoke to just into let's have

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<v Speaker 2>a listened to some of what she said about the

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<v Speaker 2>problems in the town of Ella Springs and how curfew

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<v Speaker 2>is not sufficient to address it.

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<v Speaker 9>The curfew is a temporary measure and one that we

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<v Speaker 9>can't keep just going back to. We need to give

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<v Speaker 9>to the root of the problem instead of treating it downstream.

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<v Speaker 9>We need to start preventing kids from committing crimes in

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<v Speaker 9>the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's the point that you made is that you're

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<v Speaker 2>just going to have rolling curfews unless you deal with issues.

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<v Speaker 2>You mentioned the Voice, Joe, that this headline was interesting today.

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<v Speaker 2>Treaty and Truth Telling Body cuts staff eight months after

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<v Speaker 2>Voice failure. This is the National Indigenous Australians Agency which

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<v Speaker 2>is charged with implementing the Macaraate Commission. The Albanezy government

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<v Speaker 2>allocated about seven and a half million dollars towards it.

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<v Speaker 1>In their twenty twenty two budget.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they've cut their staff from three full time staff

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<v Speaker 2>is to half a full time equivalent. Probably the wrong

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<v Speaker 2>time to be setting up treaty and truth telling commissions

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<v Speaker 2>when you've got such violence in Ella Springs and all

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<v Speaker 2>of these issues continue to bubble along. No one's interested

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<v Speaker 2>in these little superficial virtue signaling operations.

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<v Speaker 1>People want to see real action and people help.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And the fact that the government doesn't have the

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<v Speaker 4>Voice to work with, which arguably I don't believe it

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<v Speaker 4>would have achieved anything that you said it was supposed to, Joe,

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<v Speaker 4>that doesn't give them an excuse to not do the

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<v Speaker 4>things that they said They were going to do, which

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<v Speaker 4>was improved the quality of life for Indigenous Australians in

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<v Speaker 4>this nation. That it boggles my mind that the taxpayer

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<v Speaker 4>spends around forty billion dollars a year on Indigenous communities

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<v Speaker 4>and we are not seeing where are the KPIs. Where

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<v Speaker 4>does this government get off turning around to us being like, well,

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<v Speaker 4>if you just change your constitution, that'll make a big difference.

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<v Speaker 4>We all knew that it wasn't going to be. None

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<v Speaker 4>of them rolled out KPIs for it. Otherwise the vote

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<v Speaker 4>would have been a lot higher if they were like,

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<v Speaker 4>this is how the voice is going to equal real

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<v Speaker 4>world boots on the ground differences in these communities. No

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<v Speaker 4>one could explain that, so no one believed it. It

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<v Speaker 4>just seems like you want to change our constitution for

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<v Speaker 4>absolutely weirdly no reason. And also there is just no

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<v Speaker 4>excuse for the government not to have done more, not

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<v Speaker 4>to have done better when you look at the amount

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<v Speaker 4>of people and the already the countless organizations.

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<v Speaker 3>To say that, oh, the voice is meaning that will listen.

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<v Speaker 4>To people on the ground, you mean you haven't been

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<v Speaker 4>doing that for which is why these systemic issues are continuing.

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<v Speaker 3>What are you doing with forty.

0:24:46.520 --> 0:24:50.959
<v Speaker 4>Billion dollars a year on about three percent of the population.

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<v Speaker 3>Why can't you fix this. You're the government, you have

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<v Speaker 3>all the.

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<v Speaker 5>Resources in the well you have to.

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<v Speaker 6>You can't fix a problem until you acknowledge that it exists,

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<v Speaker 6>and you.

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<v Speaker 3>Can't everyone's acknowledging it.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, not everyone is. That that is the problem. That

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<v Speaker 5>is the problem.

0:25:06.720 --> 0:25:09.880
<v Speaker 6>Not everyone is. And so again I completely agree. Firstly,

0:25:09.920 --> 0:25:13.520
<v Speaker 6>the government has done significant stuff since the Voice. They're okay,

0:25:13.600 --> 0:25:16.119
<v Speaker 6>I think it's a billion dollars to education and billion

0:25:16.119 --> 0:25:20.399
<v Speaker 6>dollars to housing in the NT for Indigenous people. But again,

0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:24.119
<v Speaker 6>that will that's great, and it's fantastic, and so they should.

0:25:24.200 --> 0:25:26.919
<v Speaker 6>But it will count for nothing unless you have that

0:25:27.040 --> 0:25:30.720
<v Speaker 6>acknowledgment of the dysfunction of the violence. And again, we

0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:34.879
<v Speaker 6>need to see the young Indigenous leaders of the future

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<v Speaker 6>who would have been on the Voice or thought it

0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:37.879
<v Speaker 6>was a good idea or wanted to.

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<v Speaker 5>Be there, coming up and owning this and.

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<v Speaker 6>Saying, right, this is a disgrace, what's happening in our communities.

0:25:43.280 --> 0:25:44.639
<v Speaker 6>This is what we've got to do to fix it.

0:25:44.680 --> 0:25:47.280
<v Speaker 6>We've got to take responsibility. We've got to start talking

0:25:47.359 --> 0:25:49.199
<v Speaker 6>to the men in our communities and make sure this

0:25:49.240 --> 0:25:52.119
<v Speaker 6>aren't acceptible the grog band. Again, there were community leaders

0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:54.760
<v Speaker 6>at the time who were saying, when the grog bands

0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:57.160
<v Speaker 6>were going to be rolled back, for the love of God,

0:25:57.600 --> 0:25:59.639
<v Speaker 6>don't do this. And again it's actually one of the

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<v Speaker 6>exams I use as to why a voice could have

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<v Speaker 6>been more powerful and could have prevented that sort of

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<v Speaker 6>stuff from happening, because if the voice had said it

0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:09.199
<v Speaker 6>and the government had ignored it, we wouldn't have got

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<v Speaker 6>the result that we did get, which was local people

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<v Speaker 6>in the community, local voices if you like, writing letters

0:26:15.320 --> 0:26:18.040
<v Speaker 6>saying don't do this. And it got buried, I know,

0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:19.960
<v Speaker 6>but it wasn't transparent. No one knew about it, and

0:26:20.000 --> 0:26:21.679
<v Speaker 6>so it just got buried in the bottom of a

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<v Speaker 6>desk draw somewhere and the government just went ahead with

0:26:23.920 --> 0:26:27.159
<v Speaker 6>this policy. So again it didn't have that transparency, it

0:26:27.160 --> 0:26:29.159
<v Speaker 6>didn't have that sort of high profile visibility.

0:26:29.200 --> 0:26:30.560
<v Speaker 5>But we need that.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, these are difficult problems, they're complex problems, but

0:26:33.400 --> 0:26:36.399
<v Speaker 6>they're also pretty clear problems as well, and you can't

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<v Speaker 6>just say, oh, well, it's not you know, it's not

0:26:39.359 --> 0:26:42.200
<v Speaker 6>our fault that you know, men are bashing our women

0:26:42.240 --> 0:26:44.560
<v Speaker 6>at thirty times the rate of non indigenous communities because

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<v Speaker 6>it's all kind of intersectional trauma and it's all because

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<v Speaker 6>of colonialism or racing or whatever.

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<v Speaker 5>That's bollocks.

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<v Speaker 6>We can deal with that later on, but firstly, you

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<v Speaker 6>cannot have communities that resemble more resemble war zones than

0:26:56.960 --> 0:27:00.000
<v Speaker 6>they do that non indigenous.

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<v Speaker 4>So why is this going on decade in decade out

0:27:03.600 --> 0:27:05.760
<v Speaker 4>when the government has all the resources, they have all

0:27:05.800 --> 0:27:09.080
<v Speaker 4>the data, they're not ignorant as to the stats that well.

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<v Speaker 6>Again, as I said, that's right, and you know, Marca

0:27:12.160 --> 0:27:14.280
<v Speaker 6>Langton is one of the people who came forward and

0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:18.080
<v Speaker 6>presented these stats. As was just enterprise, as was its fancasment.

0:27:18.119 --> 0:27:20.919
<v Speaker 6>They came forward, it was on the front page of Australia, ignored,

0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:23.960
<v Speaker 6>and it just you know, and again, until the left

0:27:24.440 --> 0:27:28.160
<v Speaker 6>makes this and the people who supposedly champion indigenous issues

0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:31.359
<v Speaker 6>make this the front and center. They first, first we

0:27:31.400 --> 0:27:34.080
<v Speaker 6>stopped the women being bashed. First, we stop the kids

0:27:34.280 --> 0:27:39.080
<v Speaker 6>being bashed and abused. Until that becomes the number one priority,

0:27:39.560 --> 0:27:41.320
<v Speaker 6>then of course everything else is gone.

0:27:41.320 --> 0:27:43.439
<v Speaker 2>I've got to care more about Indigenous people than they

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<v Speaker 2>do about their ideological talking points.

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<v Speaker 5>So that happened.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that is probably see some change.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go to the latest News poll here in Australia,

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:53.480
<v Speaker 2>which shows that things are tightening up as we head

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<v Speaker 2>towards a federal election.

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<v Speaker 1>The two party preferred vote.

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<v Speaker 2>Now has Labor leading fifty one to forty nine as

0:28:00.600 --> 0:28:04.200
<v Speaker 2>Dutton starts to make ground on the government, particularly in

0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:07.920
<v Speaker 2>regards to his nuclear policy, and the coalition enjoys majority

0:28:07.920 --> 0:28:11.800
<v Speaker 2>support in Queensland and in New South Wales as well

0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:13.080
<v Speaker 2>as among males.

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<v Speaker 1>According to the latest News poll, current trends.

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<v Speaker 2>Indicate we'll end up with a hung parliament if it

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:22.359
<v Speaker 2>keeps going the way it's going. Liz Dutton is clearly

0:28:22.400 --> 0:28:25.480
<v Speaker 2>making ground on Anthony Albanezi. There's a long way to go.

0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:28.800
<v Speaker 2>Polls up polls, but they do indicate trends. This would

0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:31.600
<v Speaker 2>be pretty encouraging to a man who, not that long ago,

0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:35.520
<v Speaker 2>was considered unelectable by most of the left wing media.

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<v Speaker 4>Indeed, and this pole encapsulates the last three months, so

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:43.520
<v Speaker 4>that is indicative, I guess of a trend. I just

0:28:43.560 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 4>find it so hard to get interested in polls when

0:28:45.960 --> 0:28:49.040
<v Speaker 4>we're at least ten months out to an election. Poles

0:28:49.040 --> 0:28:52.360
<v Speaker 4>are fickle. It could be different next week. And I'm

0:28:52.400 --> 0:28:55.200
<v Speaker 4>sure Labor is watching these and thinking of all the

0:28:55.280 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 4>rabbits that they can pull out of a hat. Before

0:28:58.360 --> 0:29:02.960
<v Speaker 4>say April next year, They've still got a massive lead

0:29:03.000 --> 0:29:03.800
<v Speaker 4>into an election.

0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:06.360
<v Speaker 6>So Joe the other I hope, I hope it's ten

0:29:06.360 --> 0:29:07.600
<v Speaker 6>months until the next election.

0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:10.680
<v Speaker 2>The other interesting out of the poll is the Labor

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:12.640
<v Speaker 2>of bleeding votes to the Greens when it comes to

0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:15.360
<v Speaker 2>eighteen to thirty four year olds, and she's always going

0:29:15.400 --> 0:29:17.320
<v Speaker 2>This poll was taken before Fatima payment.

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<v Speaker 5>That's taken before and after.

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:22.120
<v Speaker 6>So what happens with these news polls with the state

0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:24.720
<v Speaker 6>by state breakdown is they aggregate all the data from

0:29:24.760 --> 0:29:27.360
<v Speaker 6>all the news polls taken over that period. I think

0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:30.560
<v Speaker 6>it was between April and June from memory, and so

0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:34.480
<v Speaker 6>they have a big enough mass of data to be

0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:36.040
<v Speaker 6>able to do state by state breakdowns.

0:29:36.080 --> 0:29:37.240
<v Speaker 5>You can see some of it there.

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<v Speaker 6>For a normal news poll, the numbers that they get

0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:44.120
<v Speaker 6>from each state isn't enough to be statistically significant, so

0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 6>you can have a you know, so you have to

0:29:45.720 --> 0:29:48.000
<v Speaker 6>get way over a thousand votes nationally for that to

0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:50.840
<v Speaker 6>be considered statistically significant, and even then there's a three

0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:51.840
<v Speaker 6>percent margin of error.

0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:55.000
<v Speaker 5>So this is a culmination I think.

0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:57.480
<v Speaker 6>Between four and five thousand votes, which means you can

0:29:57.640 --> 0:30:00.640
<v Speaker 6>actually drill down the payoff for that is that it's

0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:03.240
<v Speaker 6>not one moment in time, so you can't explay right,

0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:05.880
<v Speaker 6>this is as a result of the increase in inflation,

0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:08.240
<v Speaker 6>or this is a result of Fatima payment, and indeed

0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:11.640
<v Speaker 6>it most of the period is before the Fatima payment

0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:14.560
<v Speaker 6>stuff came off. But young people are always going to

0:30:14.600 --> 0:30:18.080
<v Speaker 6>be rebellious. Young people are always, i mean, it's a cliche,

0:30:18.200 --> 0:30:19.960
<v Speaker 6>are going to lean to the left.

0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:21.560
<v Speaker 5>I was a dumb student socialist.

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:24.160
<v Speaker 6>I'm now on the opposite side of the kind of

0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:29.240
<v Speaker 6>left spectrum if you like. And so Labor has no

0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:32.120
<v Speaker 6>value in chasing those votes because they will come. They

0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:34.640
<v Speaker 6>will put the liberals last every time. Anyone who's to

0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:36.360
<v Speaker 6>the left of the Labor Party is not going to

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:38.000
<v Speaker 6>put the libers ahead of them, So all those votes

0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:40.480
<v Speaker 6>come back, thank you, preferential voting.

0:30:41.240 --> 0:30:43.280
<v Speaker 5>Where they are in trouble is.

0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 6>With middle aged people, so you're sort of thirty nine

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:49.800
<v Speaker 6>to fifty four types. That is where they've gone backwards,

0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 6>and that is smack bang middle Australia, middle aged, middle class,

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:55.920
<v Speaker 6>middle income Australia. That is a problem for them. They

0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:59.680
<v Speaker 6>need to get those back. And also, you know, talking

0:30:59.720 --> 0:31:03.240
<v Speaker 6>about the timing of the election, and our very good

0:31:03.320 --> 0:31:06.560
<v Speaker 6>former colleague PBO had a piece that raised a few

0:31:06.600 --> 0:31:09.720
<v Speaker 6>eyebrows over the weekend that albou was thinking of calling

0:31:09.760 --> 0:31:10.840
<v Speaker 6>an election on.

0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 5>August the thirty first.

0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:15.920
<v Speaker 6>The fact that and I think it was fifty four

0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:18.720
<v Speaker 6>to forty six, the coalition is up in Queensland.

0:31:19.640 --> 0:31:20.240
<v Speaker 5>If that is.

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:21.760
<v Speaker 3>Played there, I think you go that early.

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:26.040
<v Speaker 6>No, I don't, I don't, I don't determine. So the

0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:30.120
<v Speaker 6>thinking behind the early poldation there right, absolutely absolutely, that

0:31:30.200 --> 0:31:32.200
<v Speaker 6>is the central to it. So the thinking behind the

0:31:32.200 --> 0:31:35.880
<v Speaker 6>August thirty first Polder, as PVO put it, is that

0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:39.480
<v Speaker 6>the RBA is more likely to raise rates in September

0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:42.600
<v Speaker 6>than it is in August if there's an election campaign on.

0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:47.640
<v Speaker 5>The RBA would be shy in seeming.

0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:50.520
<v Speaker 6>To raise rates in such a politically charged period because

0:31:50.520 --> 0:31:54.520
<v Speaker 6>it would undermine its a political impartiality, and therefore it

0:31:54.520 --> 0:31:56.880
<v Speaker 6>would just wait and see, let the campaign run its course,

0:31:56.920 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 6>and then late in September. I think that is very simplistic.

0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:02.920
<v Speaker 6>There's also an argument that it would sort of tactically

0:32:03.200 --> 0:32:07.760
<v Speaker 6>you know, flat foot or wrongfoot the Muslim vote movements,

0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:09.120
<v Speaker 6>and they wouldn't have a chance to get their act

0:32:09.120 --> 0:32:11.920
<v Speaker 6>together and come after it again. Tactically smart strategically, I

0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:15.240
<v Speaker 6>think pretty stupid if you go to the polls in Queensland,

0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:19.520
<v Speaker 6>even as a federal Labor candidate and they haven't got

0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:22.640
<v Speaker 6>out of their system their hatred for Stephen Miles and

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:26.240
<v Speaker 6>state Labor. There you know again, fifty four to forty six,

0:32:26.280 --> 0:32:28.960
<v Speaker 6>the coalition is up in Queensland. What is that going

0:32:29.000 --> 0:32:33.880
<v Speaker 6>to do to Labor Party seats if it runs there?

0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:37.200
<v Speaker 6>Before voters have voted in the Queensland state election and

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:39.680
<v Speaker 6>got all those brick bats out of their system. So again,

0:32:39.800 --> 0:32:43.880
<v Speaker 6>it's that's why I think the early election thing would

0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 6>would be still a kamikaze move.

0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:48.640
<v Speaker 4>I'd love to see it happen, though, wouldn't we All

0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:52.360
<v Speaker 4>to the US now, where four more senior House Democrats

0:32:52.480 --> 0:32:57.000
<v Speaker 4>are calling on Joe Biden buddy, pack up, leave, do

0:32:57.200 --> 0:33:00.760
<v Speaker 4>not run for re election. Biden doesn't seem to be

0:33:00.800 --> 0:33:04.040
<v Speaker 4>listening to any of these people, even though the polls

0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:08.480
<v Speaker 4>unquestionably back them up. He has no chance of winning

0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:14.040
<v Speaker 4>against Donald Trump, who will undoubtedly be the Republican nominee.

0:33:14.080 --> 0:33:17.040
<v Speaker 4>Here he was busy over the weekend proving to everyone

0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:19.760
<v Speaker 4>Biden he's still up for the job.

0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:23.600
<v Speaker 5>Well, I guess what they're trying to push me out

0:33:23.600 --> 0:33:24.040
<v Speaker 5>on the race.

0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, let me say as clear as I can, I'm

0:33:28.200 --> 0:33:29.360
<v Speaker 2>staying in a race.

0:33:31.920 --> 0:33:33.320
<v Speaker 5>I'll bet Donald Trump.

0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 6>I will beat him again in twenty twenty.

0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:41.960
<v Speaker 10>You're doing so well a little bit there, Oh, beat

0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:43.640
<v Speaker 10>him again in twenty twenty.

0:33:44.200 --> 0:33:48.160
<v Speaker 4>Also, I'm not sure the president even knows what coloring

0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:49.440
<v Speaker 4>is these days.

0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:50.560
<v Speaker 3>Here he is again.

0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:54.960
<v Speaker 6>I am proud to be, as I said, the first

0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:59.880
<v Speaker 6>vice president, first black woman, with the black president.

0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:03.560
<v Speaker 3>You're not black, Joe.

0:34:03.720 --> 0:34:07.760
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I remember you telling people back in twenty twenty,

0:34:07.800 --> 0:34:12.080
<v Speaker 4>if you don't vote Democrat, you ain't black. Meanwhile, the

0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:18.400
<v Speaker 4>latest Ipsauce poll shows that Barack Obama's wife, Michelle Obama,

0:34:18.800 --> 0:34:22.840
<v Speaker 4>is the only Democratic nominee out of their pool of

0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:26.240
<v Speaker 4>I don't even know whether to call them hopefools who

0:34:26.400 --> 0:34:29.680
<v Speaker 4>could beat Donald Trump if it came to that. Of course,

0:34:29.680 --> 0:34:33.160
<v Speaker 4>this is unfortunate because as recently as last week she

0:34:33.320 --> 0:34:36.400
<v Speaker 4>released a statement saying I am not running.

0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:39.560
<v Speaker 3>It's not going to happen.

0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 4>And what I can't believe is the Dems still won't

0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:50.200
<v Speaker 4>give a side glance too. RFK Junior Edward Snooded tweeted

0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:53.160
<v Speaker 4>recently which made me laugh because I've been thinking the

0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:55.840
<v Speaker 4>same for a long time. Darkly, I'm using to watch

0:34:55.880 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 4>panic Dems suddenly searching under the couch cushions for a

0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:02.640
<v Speaker 4>candidate when Kennedy is literally.

0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:04.520
<v Speaker 3>Standing right there.

0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:08.040
<v Speaker 4>I love Joe, but he's been doing very well as

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:13.120
<v Speaker 4>an independent. I'm sure to be welcomed back and Democratic nominee.

0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:15.839
<v Speaker 5>Thinking barbecued dog?

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:21.120
<v Speaker 4>No, did you see the video he made like chopping

0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:23.640
<v Speaker 4>out because he has three dogs and he was chopping

0:35:23.719 --> 0:35:25.799
<v Speaker 4>up chicken and frying it in the pan, being like

0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:28.080
<v Speaker 4>this was supposed to be my dinner. But these guys

0:35:28.080 --> 0:35:30.680
<v Speaker 4>have read the news. They're so upset by the fake

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:33.120
<v Speaker 4>news that I ate a dog, and he's like sitting

0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:35.640
<v Speaker 4>on the floor and spoon feeding them and reading them.

0:35:35.960 --> 0:35:39.760
<v Speaker 2>Well, the pole that shows Michelle Obama would my Trump.

0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:43.839
<v Speaker 2>That same pole shows that Biden and Trump neck and neck.

0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:46.080
<v Speaker 1>That cannot be.

0:35:46.360 --> 0:35:48.040
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, you.

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<v Speaker 6>Know, if you laid all the poles in America and

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<v Speaker 6>to end, they still wouldn't reach any vision.

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<v Speaker 2>Mama's former strategist has said that if Biden runs. He

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<v Speaker 2>will lose in an absolute landslide.

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<v Speaker 5>There's no question about it.

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<v Speaker 6>And this is what was really fun about, like Joe

0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:03.800
<v Speaker 6>Biden saying they're trying to push me out of the election,

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<v Speaker 6>and it's like all these sinister forces. Mate, it's your

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<v Speaker 6>own team, it's your guys who.

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<v Speaker 5>Now that's right, and he's going to win again in

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<v Speaker 5>twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>His team leaked notes today that showed This was in

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<v Speaker 2>the UK Telegraph that showed that when he goes to

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<v Speaker 2>an event, they're giving him not just notes of who

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<v Speaker 2>to talk to, et cetera, et cetera, but they're actually

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<v Speaker 2>maps about where to walk on stage, where the podium

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<v Speaker 2>would be, where to walk off. He's getting all sorts

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<v Speaker 2>of instruction. This is all being leaked, so I don't

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<v Speaker 2>reckon he'll make it to no Vember.

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<v Speaker 6>It's like when Homer said the Simpson's become the Thompsons,

0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:40.759
<v Speaker 6>and Homer Simpson is being taught his lines. I guess

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<v Speaker 6>when I say hello mister Thompson and stamp your foot,

0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:48.360
<v Speaker 6>you say hello, hello, mister Thompson, and Homer goes.

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<v Speaker 5>I think he's talking to you.

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<v Speaker 6>That is now Joe Biden, good night, We're going to

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<v Speaker 6>go to a break.

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<v Speaker 2>When we come back, we look at what's making news

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<v Speaker 2>in tomorrow's papers. That's coming up, Bignesstorm, welcome back. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>let's have a look at what's making news in tomorrow's papers. Joe,

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<v Speaker 2>you can kick us off with the Daily Telegraph.

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<v Speaker 6>I certainly can, James. I don't know if you've heard

0:37:09.239 --> 0:37:11.800
<v Speaker 6>of this little news sheet. It's a real ripper. Greatest

0:37:11.840 --> 0:37:15.040
<v Speaker 6>newspaper in the country, great the world, great writers. There's

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<v Speaker 6>this one bloke, what's his name? I can't be j

0:37:17.280 --> 0:37:20.600
<v Speaker 6>something very handsome, and you would think, normally, I believe

0:37:20.640 --> 0:37:23.400
<v Speaker 6>that sometimes that you know, when God's handing out qualities,

0:37:23.400 --> 0:37:26.000
<v Speaker 6>it's a zero sum game, so you can't be like,

0:37:26.040 --> 0:37:28.840
<v Speaker 6>if you're too good looking, then you're probably a bit stupid.

0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:31.840
<v Speaker 6>But this guy, for some reason, managed to combine incredible

0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:36.000
<v Speaker 6>intelligence with incredible intellect. I know, all in the same package.

0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:38.880
<v Speaker 6>His name will come to me anyway. Meanwhile, on the front.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't even write for the Daily Telegraph has seen Joe.

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<v Speaker 6>Meanwhile, someone called Claire Armstrong, who's also very very smart

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<v Speaker 6>and good looking, has written on the front page of

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<v Speaker 6>the DLHI Australia can clear legal hurdles and fire up

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<v Speaker 6>nuclear reactor by twenty thirty five. Path clear for nuclear

0:37:58.560 --> 0:38:02.319
<v Speaker 6>get it so both got clear a legal A top

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<v Speaker 6>nuclear legal expert says australiaking clear the legal barriers to

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<v Speaker 6>get a nuclear reactor up and running by twenty thirty five,

0:38:09.760 --> 0:38:13.359
<v Speaker 6>as existing agreements and safety regulations mean the country is

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<v Speaker 6>not starting from scratch. So the regulatory framework is there.

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<v Speaker 6>Whether we have the technical expertise and all that stuff,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Know any well that we can even port.

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<v Speaker 4>But I love that a top nuclear legal expert is

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<v Speaker 4>basically quoting every Sky News host for the last however

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<v Speaker 4>many months.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, great to have more how an expert.

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<v Speaker 5>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>But we do know this already.

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<v Speaker 4>It's your mates on Team Red who simply refused to

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<v Speaker 4>acknowledge it in any way, shape or form, despite the

0:38:45.600 --> 0:38:49.279
<v Speaker 4>fact that their new their green dream is falling over

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<v Speaker 4>in front of their eyes. They know that nuclear would

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<v Speaker 4>be useful in the mix.

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<v Speaker 3>It's going to be a mess.

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<v Speaker 6>It's just again to me, it's just money. I've got

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<v Speaker 6>no problem with nuclear whatsoever. It's just a matter of

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<v Speaker 6>the economic stack up and if it's cheaper than renewables.

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<v Speaker 1>And as far as the regulatory framework.

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<v Speaker 2>People talk about nuclear as if Lucas Heights does not exist.

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<v Speaker 6>True, so that is just a research reactor, not a

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<v Speaker 6>power react and so if it went into melt, not

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<v Speaker 6>that a will, not that at will, that's fine, but

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<v Speaker 6>basically nuclear if nuclear, if Lucas Heights was completely blown up,

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<v Speaker 6>it'd be the equivalent of everyone in the local area

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<v Speaker 6>getting an X ray.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's a tiny amount.

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<v Speaker 2>If you no three eyed fishes continua, they're all very safe.

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<v Speaker 1>Now anyway, let's got.

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<v Speaker 2>A good news story on the front page of tomorrow's Career.

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<v Speaker 2>Male team takes control of runaway bus. This is a

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<v Speaker 2>student from Aquinas College in Ashmore. The teenage girl has

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<v Speaker 2>heroically saved her schoolmates from harm after she took the

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<v Speaker 2>wheel of their bus when the driver suffered a heart attack.

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<v Speaker 2>Now the driver was in charge of twenty five students.

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<v Speaker 2>He had a heart attack when unconscious. This fifteen year

0:39:56.200 --> 0:39:59.960
<v Speaker 2>old girl jumped up, removed the driver's foot from the acceller.

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<v Speaker 2>Later took his hands off the steering wheel and she

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<v Speaker 2>managed to steer the bus into a traffic light to

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<v Speaker 2>slow it down before it eventually stopped, saving everybody on

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<v Speaker 2>board from injury.

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<v Speaker 1>Good kid. Give that kid her US license immediately.

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<v Speaker 6>A very well fortun's still got a one star review

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<v Speaker 6>because she didn't stop to pick up passengers for the

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<v Speaker 6>rest of the road.

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<v Speaker 3>To the front page of The Australian.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, the splash reads military explodes to missile threats. Two

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<v Speaker 4>of the nation's most respected military commanders say Australian personnel

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<v Speaker 4>and key bases will be vulnerable to missile attack for

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<v Speaker 4>at least another decade unless the government finds the money

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<v Speaker 4>for air defense systems or the US steps in to

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<v Speaker 4>protect them. Fairly, we could just pick up the phone

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<v Speaker 4>to Israel and be like that whole lin dome thing

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<v Speaker 4>you got going, we want to get pieces out over here.

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<v Speaker 4>But no, you've trashed our relationship with them, so that's

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<v Speaker 4>not going to happen anytime soon, is it.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, we just got the I think we need

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<v Speaker 5>a slightly bigger dome.

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<v Speaker 3>Nah nah, well even a mini one. It's just the basis.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just the basis.

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<v Speaker 6>We've got America.

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<v Speaker 5>It's America's can save this.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a hard so I actually think it would be

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<v Speaker 4>a mini iron dome.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the bases that they're talking about that they're trying

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<v Speaker 3>to protect, and now you've made me lose my train

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<v Speaker 3>of them.

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<v Speaker 2>You quite right, it's the Americans American to rescue, which

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<v Speaker 2>is why we just like all of Europe as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But we have got American look.

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<v Speaker 5>Like we're trying.

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<v Speaker 6>That's the thing you have to look like you try,

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<v Speaker 6>and Americans. The most important thing the Americans want is

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<v Speaker 6>not military hardware or you know, personnel numbers. What they

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<v Speaker 6>want is like moral support. What they want is for

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<v Speaker 6>other nations to join them so it looks like they're

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<v Speaker 6>doing the right thing and not just acting alone, which

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<v Speaker 6>is why they had the coalition of the willing and

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<v Speaker 6>why we probably should have sent a boat to Yemen

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<v Speaker 6>to help them out, but we.

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<v Speaker 5>Didn't because we didn't have one.

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<v Speaker 6>But I'm sure we would have another yarn in the

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<v Speaker 6>OZ that I absolutely love because it tells you everything.

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<v Speaker 5>You need to know.

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<v Speaker 6>Young labor tells PM we stand with payment. Young labor

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<v Speaker 6>branches are revolting. Yes, they certainly are. Oh no, sorry,

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<v Speaker 6>the sentence goes on. Young labor branches are revolting against

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<v Speaker 6>the treatment of West Australian Senator Fatima Payman by the

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<v Speaker 6>Albanese government, as some labor MPs and officials back an

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<v Speaker 6>overhaul to the more than one hundred and twenty year

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<v Speaker 6>old party rule.

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<v Speaker 5>That's because the party is more than one.

0:42:18.840 --> 0:42:23.000
<v Speaker 6>Hundred and twenty years old. It's basically a founding cornerstone anyway,

0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:28.480
<v Speaker 6>that inhibits parliamentarians from crossing the floor. If Young Labor

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<v Speaker 6>and again, to be honest, it's Young Labor branches, so

0:42:31.320 --> 0:42:33.080
<v Speaker 6>this is just the left faction of Young Labor. So

0:42:33.120 --> 0:42:35.400
<v Speaker 6>Young Labour's always a bit to the left of normal Labor,

0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:42.359
<v Speaker 6>and then Young Labor's left is just. But if Young

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<v Speaker 6>Labor left, which Anthony Albaneze obviously originally came from a rope,

0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:51.400
<v Speaker 6>if Young Labor is going after Albo at his weakest moment,

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<v Speaker 6>a Labor Prime Minister from the left and backing the

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<v Speaker 6>person who's betrayed him instead of the l left PM, no,

0:43:01.400 --> 0:43:02.160
<v Speaker 6>it kids.

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<v Speaker 5>Might not be in the right party. You might just

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<v Speaker 5>want to just go across the road to the Greens.

0:43:07.800 --> 0:43:09.840
<v Speaker 5>I'm sure they'd love to have you. We'll welcome you

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<v Speaker 5>back when you're about forty years old.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, according to the article, not only are they calling

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<v Speaker 2>for an overhaul of the rule that meant freedom of

0:43:15.840 --> 0:43:19.080
<v Speaker 2>payment is now out of the party, but they're hosting

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<v Speaker 2>her as a guest speaker at an event.

0:43:22.640 --> 0:43:24.560
<v Speaker 3>How was she still in the game?

0:43:24.880 --> 0:43:26.640
<v Speaker 4>Last week we were talking about the fact that she

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<v Speaker 4>still has her Afghany citizen citizenship.

0:43:30.400 --> 0:43:31.160
<v Speaker 1>Will she try you.

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<v Speaker 3>Can't have a dual citizenship and sit in.

0:43:34.520 --> 0:43:37.120
<v Speaker 2>Our federal I'm one with freedom of payment on that one,

0:43:37.160 --> 0:43:39.600
<v Speaker 2>because apparently she tried to get rid of it, but

0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:43.080
<v Speaker 2>there's no ability for the embassy if you can't actually

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<v Speaker 2>in Afghanistan, So she's kind of stuck.

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<v Speaker 6>So that's right, And there are other examples of that

0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:51.680
<v Speaker 6>where people just literally couldn't.

0:43:51.719 --> 0:43:53.200
<v Speaker 5>They're desperately like, unless you can.

0:43:53.120 --> 0:43:55.440
<v Speaker 6>Get the other country to cancel your passport, it's like

0:43:55.440 --> 0:43:57.640
<v Speaker 6>the Tarbo's going, oh no, she's still one of ours.

0:43:57.760 --> 0:44:00.839
<v Speaker 5>No, we're not giving it back. But yeah.

0:44:00.960 --> 0:44:03.439
<v Speaker 6>But the answer, the real answer to your question, Lise,

0:44:03.600 --> 0:44:05.920
<v Speaker 6>is because it's fatima payment, the rules don't apply to her.

0:44:06.239 --> 0:44:09.440
<v Speaker 5>No rules for clearly magical.

0:44:09.520 --> 0:44:14.399
<v Speaker 6>Anyway, over to the Voice of Tasmania the Mercury, and

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<v Speaker 6>I was intrigued by this little story in the top

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<v Speaker 6>left hand corner here. Commission calling for budget rise. The

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<v Speaker 6>Integrity Commission says it needs a bigger budget in order

0:44:26.320 --> 0:44:31.400
<v Speaker 6>to fulfill a request it investigate all sexual abuse allegations

0:44:31.440 --> 0:44:33.680
<v Speaker 6>against Tasmania police officers.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sure you picked the right headline there, guys.

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to need a bigger budget.

0:44:42.600 --> 0:44:48.400
<v Speaker 6>You've got Tasmanian police officers so rampantly allegedly sexually abusing

0:44:48.440 --> 0:44:52.239
<v Speaker 6>people that they need a bigger budget just to investigate it.

0:44:53.040 --> 0:44:55.840
<v Speaker 6>And the headline they've put on the article is commission

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<v Speaker 6>calling for budget rise.

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<v Speaker 5>Could you have at least got.

0:44:58.880 --> 0:45:04.240
<v Speaker 6>Police or sex in the head No, I love you guys.

0:45:04.480 --> 0:45:05.840
<v Speaker 3>They want to bury that part.

0:45:06.160 --> 0:45:11.279
<v Speaker 4>So this is literally to independently investigate all grooming and

0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:15.000
<v Speaker 4>sections allegations made against police officers.

0:45:15.239 --> 0:45:16.360
<v Speaker 3>How many are there?

0:45:17.120 --> 0:45:19.640
<v Speaker 4>You're like, Okay, we don't have the budget for this.

0:45:19.760 --> 0:45:22.400
<v Speaker 4>We're going to need a whole more money if you

0:45:22.520 --> 0:45:24.560
<v Speaker 4>want us to investigate every single one of the.

0:45:25.239 --> 0:45:26.680
<v Speaker 5>This is not a fiscal story.

0:45:27.400 --> 0:45:32.439
<v Speaker 6>I just like this is sexual This is not not a.

0:45:32.320 --> 0:45:35.400
<v Speaker 5>Story about accounting. I love the.

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<v Speaker 2>More money to protect people from police. We're going to

0:45:38.520 --> 0:45:41.400
<v Speaker 2>go to a break when we come back. Can Queens

0:45:41.400 --> 0:45:44.160
<v Speaker 2>and Premier Steven Miles be any more cringe? The answer,

0:45:44.160 --> 0:45:46.839
<v Speaker 2>of course is yes, We'll show you in a moment.

0:45:50.400 --> 0:45:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Welcome back.

0:45:50.920 --> 0:45:53.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, we've talked a lot about elections tonight, Lizen, there's

0:45:53.600 --> 0:45:54.600
<v Speaker 2>one you in Queensland.

0:45:54.640 --> 0:45:58.280
<v Speaker 4>Shortly, the Miles government is facing death by a thousand

0:45:58.280 --> 0:46:01.560
<v Speaker 4>cards into every single poll that heap's coming out. Their

0:46:01.600 --> 0:46:05.719
<v Speaker 4>demise looks set for later this year when Queenslanders will

0:46:05.719 --> 0:46:08.880
<v Speaker 4>go to the polls. So what does the premier decide

0:46:08.920 --> 0:46:11.759
<v Speaker 4>to do to maybe win back a few votes. He

0:46:11.920 --> 0:46:15.279
<v Speaker 4>decides to insert himself in a still frame of the

0:46:15.360 --> 0:46:18.480
<v Speaker 4>cast from The Fast and the Furious to announce to

0:46:18.560 --> 0:46:22.560
<v Speaker 4>Queenslanders he's giving them twenty percent off their car.

0:46:22.680 --> 0:46:35.320
<v Speaker 3>Rego's okay, We've got to play that for you again.

0:46:45.680 --> 0:46:49.160
<v Speaker 10>He's so Hippi, he's so cool. Come on, guys, you

0:46:49.280 --> 0:46:52.640
<v Speaker 10>one him for a premier. Queensland is burning, But who

0:46:52.680 --> 0:46:56.080
<v Speaker 10>else can make reels like that? Joe, your face.

0:46:55.800 --> 0:46:56.359
<v Speaker 3>Says it all.

0:46:56.520 --> 0:46:57.680
<v Speaker 5>I just don't understand.

0:46:58.800 --> 0:47:01.760
<v Speaker 6>I just I'm not sure the Fast and Furious guys

0:47:01.760 --> 0:47:02.880
<v Speaker 6>actually pay their rego.

0:47:05.040 --> 0:47:08.640
<v Speaker 5>I'm pretty sure they just you know, I just why,

0:47:09.480 --> 0:47:09.960
<v Speaker 5>what is.

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

0:47:13.440 --> 0:47:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Is it going to help me win the election?

0:47:14.960 --> 0:47:16.160
<v Speaker 5>Joe? People, it's going to help.

0:47:16.480 --> 0:47:19.040
<v Speaker 6>We're gonna help Albo lose the election because one of

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<v Speaker 6>the really massive factors of inflation going up is incredibly

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<v Speaker 6>inflationary state budgets, especially Queensland. So all this just handing

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<v Speaker 6>out money handover fist is actually playing a massive role

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<v Speaker 6>and a lot of economists have said this is playing

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<v Speaker 6>a massive role in Well, we just saw that inflation

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<v Speaker 6>number with a.

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<v Speaker 2>Four, producing social media stuff like that. He'll be fine

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<v Speaker 2>at the election, no question. Hey, before we go, you've

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<v Speaker 2>got to check out America's National Education and Your Conference

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<v Speaker 2>held at the weekend, and they talked about important things,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, with due seriousness, such as social justice, the

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<v Speaker 2>need for an education system built on equity. Listen to

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<v Speaker 2>the associations national president, Becky Pringle, talking as exactly as

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<v Speaker 2>you'd expect the president of the Education Association to speak.

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<v Speaker 9>Anya, delegates, we can do this work.

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<v Speaker 3>We must do this work. We get to do this work.

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<v Speaker 9>We will do this work.

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<v Speaker 4>Because our students are depending on us to.

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<v Speaker 1>Win all the things.

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<v Speaker 3>Any we have to win.

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<v Speaker 4>All the things, all.

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<v Speaker 3>The things, all the things. Our colleagues are depending on us.

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<v Speaker 5>To win all the things.

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<v Speaker 2>Liz, I've been to a Pentecostal church like that, but

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<v Speaker 2>never to an education conference like that.

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<v Speaker 1>What the heck?

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<v Speaker 3>What are all the things? By the way, can you

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<v Speaker 3>not name them?

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<v Speaker 4>Wouldn't you just be like this for all their education equality?

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<v Speaker 4>Like she didn't even reel off all the DEI usual hotware.

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<v Speaker 6>I just love the fact that no one even realized

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<v Speaker 6>what she was on about, and then the people behind her,

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<v Speaker 6>oh yeah, like you couldn't. She's whacking the thing and

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<v Speaker 6>everyone said that obviously not at all.

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<v Speaker 1>That for the things.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it from us stick around all the things from

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<v Speaker 2>Auster moment is the redependehy program that's in just a

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<v Speaker 2>moment