WEBVTT - Mini Motivation: How to boost your gut microbiome (from someone who knows)

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<v Speaker 1>out the show notes for more. This is healthy Heir

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<v Speaker 1>with Amelia Phillips and welcome to one of my mini

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<v Speaker 1>motivation episodes. These are shorter, targeted episodes where we tack

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<v Speaker 1>one specific question or challenge head on. Today we are

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<v Speaker 1>deep diving into our digestive system and answering the question

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<v Speaker 1>how do I improve my gut microbiome? Now, a healthy

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<v Speaker 1>functioning gut microbiome is linked to all sorts of improved

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<v Speaker 1>outcomes such as a stronger immune system, better weight management. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it helps with weight management, improved mood, nutrient absorption, lower inflammation.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness. The list goes on. But what are

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<v Speaker 1>the best strategies and is it as simple as popping

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<v Speaker 1>a probiotic or is there a better, newer way. I

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<v Speaker 1>pose this question recently to gastroentrologists doctor Paul Frooms. Doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Paul is BORED certified treats patients with gut issues in

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<v Speaker 1>both the public and private practice, and he's known as

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<v Speaker 1>the Microbiome Doctor. He also trains other doctors and practitioners

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<v Speaker 1>in IBS management through his Microbiome Tree program, which is

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<v Speaker 1>called Best Gut Medical. So here is what doctor Paul

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<v Speaker 1>had to say about mastering our microbiome. Doctor Paul, If

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<v Speaker 1>we really want to optimize and support our microbiome to flourish,

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<v Speaker 1>and we want to minimize the pathogens and opportunists, and

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<v Speaker 1>we want to help the good bugs of our microbiome proliferate,

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<v Speaker 1>what are the most important diet changes that we should

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<v Speaker 1>be making or what should we be focusing on when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to our diet.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically, what I do is more than DIETA I would say,

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<v Speaker 2>if you really want to do something in legitimate and

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<v Speaker 2>that really changes your microbiome, So you want to get

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<v Speaker 2>rid of pathogens and you want to rebuild, you sort

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<v Speaker 2>of do a variation of whed and seed. If you're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to do a full medical one, then you

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<v Speaker 2>might getch you something natural so to weed out or

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<v Speaker 2>bad back, get rid of bad bacteria. Naturally, you want

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<v Speaker 2>to add some plants that are effective and helping your

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<v Speaker 2>gun immune system control bad bacteria. So that's eating a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of garlic, onion and adding something like berberine, oregano oil.

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<v Speaker 2>Those sort of things are actually pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it kind of anti microbial? Is that what mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Like anti microbials? Rid of opportunity organisms?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so what's interesting about so like berberine, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>which some people like to take for weight management as well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually not something that you would want to take

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<v Speaker 1>as a supplement permanently, is it? Because it could also

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<v Speaker 1>potentially alter your good guys or you someone that's very

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<v Speaker 1>happy to permanently supplement with berberine.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm coming around to the you know what, I think

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<v Speaker 2>berberine might have a as an ongoing suffer. Okay, it belodoendron,

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<v Speaker 2>which is obviously antimicrobial, but reasons for that you've shown

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<v Speaker 2>berberine actually acts as a prebiotic for the promotion of

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<v Speaker 2>good bacteria. So it's kind of a really good one

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<v Speaker 2>for maintenance because it's doing a little bit of suppressing

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<v Speaker 2>of bad buds, but it's also stimulating the pollutination of probiotics.

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<v Speaker 2>Plus it's helping you activate SGLP one a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>as well, so it's actually seeing not a bad little supplement.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, berberine, you heard it here, guys. And

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<v Speaker 1>then those other food based ones, so do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to just rattle those off again? So these are the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of antimicrobials that are going to keep those pathogens

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<v Speaker 1>opportunists a.

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<v Speaker 2>So garlics are very good one, or a garna oil

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<v Speaker 2>is a very good one. And then there are things

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<v Speaker 2>like you can intermittently take things like wormwood time extract

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<v Speaker 2>time oil. Those sort of plants have pretty good antimicrobial effects.

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<v Speaker 2>But the second step is you've always got to be

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<v Speaker 2>repopulating your guts. So eating eating prebiotic foods and taking

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<v Speaker 2>a probiotic is going to help establish and maintain your

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<v Speaker 2>probotic level.

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<v Speaker 1>Your top favorite pre biotic foods that this gastroentrologist will

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<v Speaker 1>be eating, you'll see it in the fridge and pantry

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<v Speaker 1>every week. What are your go to prebiotics?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I love the bit of glue cans in steel cutoats.

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<v Speaker 1>I love steel cutoats. I think I should buy shares

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<v Speaker 1>in steel cutoats because the amount of people I have

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<v Speaker 1>got to switch across. The best tastes so much better

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<v Speaker 1>than rolled or instant.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're really good. Then you've got to have some

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<v Speaker 2>sort of resistant starch. So whether that's a green banana

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<v Speaker 2>or whether it's sweet potato. There's lots of different sources

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<v Speaker 2>of resistant starsh.

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<v Speaker 1>Cooled like just cooled potato. Like you know, you had

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<v Speaker 1>some roast potatoes last night, make a little potato salad

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<v Speaker 1>the next day, cooled potatoes. I can't do green bananas.

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<v Speaker 1>Where else can we get resistance starch?

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<v Speaker 2>The cool potatoes are very good resistance stark. Any starchy food,

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<v Speaker 2>if you try cook it, then you're going to turn

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<v Speaker 2>it from something that releases sugar quickly, which is bad

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<v Speaker 2>to something that's slow release, and then you want to

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<v Speaker 2>add in things that so lots of green leafy greens

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<v Speaker 2>are a really good thing to add to your diet

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<v Speaker 2>because they've discovered another sugar that is a prebiotic sugar

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<v Speaker 2>in leafy greens that was probably only discovered about six

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<v Speaker 2>years ago. We're still just coming to terms what is

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<v Speaker 2>in these foods in terms of prebiotics. And then polyphenale

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<v Speaker 2>rich foods are really really good too, So they were

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<v Speaker 2>all the really colorful things like pomegranad, blueberries, strawberries, blackberries.

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<v Speaker 2>They provide a fuel for acamancia, which stops leaky that.

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<v Speaker 1>So, yes, I heard pomegranite is a particular favorite of acromac.

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<v Speaker 1>Now do you want to just touch on achromance here

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<v Speaker 1>for a second, because certainly in the weight loss world

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<v Speaker 1>where I spent a lot of time, it's getting quite

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of bars and unfortunately, the only supplement I

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<v Speaker 1>can find, and maybe you can point me in a

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<v Speaker 1>better direction pendulum. They do an acremensia, but it's really expensive,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty exy, So I just would rather feed my

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<v Speaker 1>natural acromencia. So how should I feed it? To help

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<v Speaker 1>with weight management and metabolic flexibility.

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<v Speaker 2>Incomania is probably one of the most exciting new probotic

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<v Speaker 2>discoveries of the last decade. This thing leaves. They found

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<v Speaker 2>it deep in the mucous layer of the gut, so

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<v Speaker 2>and it's then become like a recognized as a keystone

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<v Speaker 2>species for metabolic health, gut barrier health. It basically maintains

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<v Speaker 2>and stimulates your gut mucus barrier and prevents leaky gut,

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<v Speaker 2>which massively reduces inflammation, produces a short it's one of

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<v Speaker 2>the producers of short chain fatty acids like propionate, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's got a several protein as you know that stimulates

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<v Speaker 2>GLP one. So it reduces leaky gut, reduces systemic inflammation,

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<v Speaker 2>reduces insulin resistance, improves weight gain, and improves insulin sensevity.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's found in an abundance in lean people usually

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<v Speaker 1>and then in very low levels in at lease people.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that kind of one of the key findings?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely right? Yeah, Okay, So a technotic feature of type

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<v Speaker 2>two diabetes, obesity and flum to bow disease is that

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<v Speaker 2>they are missing a commancia. Now there's one probiotic on

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<v Speaker 2>the market which you mentioned that you can buy, but

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<v Speaker 2>as you said, it's expensive. So the best way is

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<v Speaker 2>to rebuild our commands here is one do something and

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<v Speaker 2>fasting because it loves it when you're fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that right? I didn't know that? Okay, So like

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<v Speaker 1>a prolonged overnight fast, you know, twelve fourteen maybe sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>hours for some people easy finished dinner at eight pm.

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<v Speaker 1>Have breakfasted between eight am twelve hours or ten ams

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen twelve am sixteen hours. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>It thrives when the gut's not you know, for those

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<v Speaker 2>periods when the gut's not processing food, then you want

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<v Speaker 2>to feed it the most powerful bursts of a commands

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<v Speaker 2>that we mentioned of the polyphenol rich foods, right, which

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<v Speaker 2>is pomegranate, is the king cranberze, blue.

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<v Speaker 1>Berries, plums? Is it? Basically the purples? Is it that?

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<v Speaker 2>The dark personal purple purples, reds, even dark chocolate? They're

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<v Speaker 2>like eighty five.

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<v Speaker 1>You have just made us all fans of you today

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<v Speaker 1>have a.

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<v Speaker 2>Cup of green tea fee squares of dark chocolate and

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<v Speaker 2>some cranberr and some blueberries. Bang, polyphenol explosion and acamance.

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<v Speaker 1>Here it will just proliferate amazing. Well, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>dive into the common probiotics, but I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>circle back because I feel like, did you finish you

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<v Speaker 1>were going through some kind of steps of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>helping our gut microbiome. Had you finished going through all

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<v Speaker 1>the steps before we go into the probiotics. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>sure if I had cut you off.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think we got through seed. We go through

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<v Speaker 2>natural waste to weed. We got through a natural waste

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<v Speaker 2>to seed, and were just at the end mentioned Look,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no harm in taking a good broad spectrum probiotic

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<v Speaker 2>and some probiotic foods that would sort of complete that.

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<v Speaker 1>Why don't you list off some of the probiotic foods

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<v Speaker 1>that air in your cupboard and fridge that you recommend.

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<v Speaker 1>We all have.

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<v Speaker 2>Probodic foods is very different to probiotic foods. So probodic

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<v Speaker 2>foods means there's living, live cultures in them.

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<v Speaker 1>So the prebiotic food is like the fertilizer, yes, for

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<v Speaker 1>our living creatures. So we've just been talking about all

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<v Speaker 1>the foods that our bugs love, but now you're actually

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<v Speaker 1>talking about buying more bugs in the probiotics exactly right.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's not many because we don't ferment foods like

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<v Speaker 2>preserved foods like we used to when we're all farmers

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<v Speaker 2>and we'd have to get through a long winter. So

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<v Speaker 2>what's readily available out there are live culture, probotic yogurts.

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<v Speaker 2>But do you want to get one that doesn't have

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<v Speaker 2>any added sugar, coloring or.

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<v Speaker 1>Flavoring unsweetened Greek yogurt?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? Please?

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<v Speaker 1>And do you have killer brands that you're just like,

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<v Speaker 1>I only get this brand or do you not mind?

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<v Speaker 2>Now? I don't mind as long as it is the

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<v Speaker 2>real genuine article.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you know?

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<v Speaker 2>You look at the ingredient list and the.

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<v Speaker 1>First ingredients should be the probiotics.

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<v Speaker 2>It's literally got to be just fermented milk and nothing else.

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<v Speaker 2>And a lot of.

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<v Speaker 1>Cultures okay, perfect, all right? Unsweetened Greek yogurt, Picky brand?

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<v Speaker 1>What else?

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<v Speaker 2>The only other promotic foods out there are things that

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<v Speaker 2>are fermented that you and I can either make or buy.

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<v Speaker 2>So that includes sour crap and variations of that like

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<v Speaker 2>kim chi. And then there are some fermented soy products

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<v Speaker 2>you can buy. There are some fermented drinks that are

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<v Speaker 2>very popular.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, kom butcher, Can I just buy the can Kim

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<v Speaker 1>Butcher that's sitting next to the v drink and the

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<v Speaker 1>mother drink.

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<v Speaker 2>KM Butcher's better than drink a soft drink because the

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<v Speaker 2>sugar content's a lot less, but there is still some

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<v Speaker 2>residual sugar in it because that's how you're ferment it.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a healthier alternative. But there are some junkie

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<v Speaker 2>butcher's which are colored and flavored and I also have

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<v Speaker 2>excess sugar. And then there are the ones you get

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<v Speaker 2>from you know, the health food stills, that are really

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<v Speaker 2>they taste completely different. They are like you really like

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<v Speaker 2>drinking a proper fermented drink. And then that one step

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<v Speaker 2>up from yogurt is kefir, which is the fermented milk drink.

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<v Speaker 1>Which I love as well. Quick question. The problem with

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<v Speaker 1>kafir is it goes off really quickly. You do and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. This is I'm putting you on the spot

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<v Speaker 1>here and don't worry if you don't know the answer.

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<v Speaker 1>But I started pouring it into ice cubes and freezing

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<v Speaker 1>some of it, so I kind of buy it, buy

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<v Speaker 1>a big because it's pouring. So imagine you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>milk carton, for example, and if it's you're the only

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<v Speaker 1>one in the family that likes it. You won't get

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<v Speaker 1>through the whole lot before it goes off. So I started,

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<v Speaker 1>and I love it in smoothie. So I started pouring

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<v Speaker 1>it into ice cubes and getting rid of half of

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<v Speaker 1>the packet and freezing using the fresh stuff and then

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<v Speaker 1>moving on. But then I thought, oh, I'm probably killing

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<v Speaker 1>all the probiotics by freezing it. Do you think I

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<v Speaker 1>would be?

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<v Speaker 2>No, probably not. They seem to survive freezing most of them, which.

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<v Speaker 1>Is today, well hot tip guys do that. And then

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<v Speaker 1>when you make your smoothie and you drop a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of cubes, three cubes of kafir in there, it makes

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<v Speaker 1>it creamy rich, it's got a tang. It makes it

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<v Speaker 1>feel so like you're having literally like a thick shake.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so yummy.

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<v Speaker 2>And we know this because we've studied frozen fickle transplants,

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<v Speaker 2>and particularly in COVID. We had to freeze them and

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<v Speaker 2>you then reconstitute them and you look at them and

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<v Speaker 2>that studies look at the micro content and actually the

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<v Speaker 2>life bacteria seem to survive very very well.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, look it's saving me. I still can't get

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<v Speaker 1>my husband to drink it. So it's going to go

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<v Speaker 1>off if I don't. If I don't do something with it,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, And so in my fridge, for example, I've

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<v Speaker 1>always got a jar of kimchi. I love the purply

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<v Speaker 1>one and then sour crawt. And so now whenever I

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<v Speaker 1>have my eggs in the morning, no matter what I do,

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<v Speaker 1>I just put a big dollop. Or I grabbed my fork,

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<v Speaker 1>I put a big dollop. And actually, if I I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have it, I feel like I'm missing out Now.

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<v Speaker 1>It took me a while. I used to hate for

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<v Speaker 1>minute food, like the vinegar, anything that vers vinegary. So

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<v Speaker 1>if I can do it, I think other people can too.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is it so hard to get real answers about

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<v Speaker 1>your health? If you've been told that everything looks fine,

0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:31.680
<v Speaker 1>but you know that something is off, we're not imagining it.

0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:35.080
<v Speaker 1>That's why I created Vitality three point sixty to help

0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:38.320
<v Speaker 1>you better understand what's going on inside your body so

0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:41.200
<v Speaker 1>that you can take the targeted action needed. With a

0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:45.360
<v Speaker 1>functional health approach plus testing, we go beyond the guesswork

0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:48.840
<v Speaker 1>to uncover the root causes of your symptoms. I've teamed

0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:52.720
<v Speaker 1>up with doctor Esmina, an incredible integrative GP, and together

0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:55.880
<v Speaker 1>we will help you decode your body's signals and answer

0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:59.960
<v Speaker 1>questions like why am I always exhausted? What's really causing

0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:04.160
<v Speaker 1>my stubborn weight? Am I inflamed? Insulin resistant? Or maybe

0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:07.560
<v Speaker 1>missing key nutrients? Because when you understand your body better,

0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:10.920
<v Speaker 1>you can transform your health. Visit V three sixty dot

0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:22.880
<v Speaker 1>health or check out the show notes for more. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about probiotic supplements without rattling off and just confusing

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<v Speaker 1>our members. We've got like the Lacdo bacillis, the common

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<v Speaker 1>ones that we see all over the place, Lacdo Bacillus,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a few different strains of them. You've got

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<v Speaker 1>the Biffodo Bacterium, you've got bacillis. Are these still the

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<v Speaker 1>big ones we want to get or are there others

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<v Speaker 1>out there that you're like, no, no, no, that's last

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<v Speaker 1>year's news. I've got some new ones for you, hot

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<v Speaker 1>off the press.

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<v Speaker 2>We do have some new ones, but still the foundation

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<v Speaker 2>species that we lack and that we need to replace

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<v Speaker 2>still fall within the species lacto Basillus, Biffodo Bacterium, and Basillis.

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<v Speaker 2>We've added to that with Acamancia. We've added to that

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<v Speaker 2>with something called why sella.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you say that again?

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<v Speaker 2>Why seller?

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<v Speaker 1>Why sellar? Okay, I haven't heard of that one.

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<v Speaker 2>That's incredibly important for the oral microbiome to prevent ginger

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<v Speaker 2>of artist dental careys, period on titus, heltosis or thrush,

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<v Speaker 2>it reflex, all that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So basically, do you have any tips when we're

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<v Speaker 1>looking for supplements? Is it you know you're just basically

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to have a combination of those out there.

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<v Speaker 2>There's really two answers to that. There is just a

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<v Speaker 2>general probiotic for those people who have gotten on so

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<v Speaker 2>no specific symptoms, but do realize that their microbiome is

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<v Speaker 2>always under threat and it's just a good idea, and

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<v Speaker 2>that will just be a blend of biffodo different biffodo

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<v Speaker 2>strains and lacto basilla strains. And you really need to

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<v Speaker 2>be taking probiotics that have at least thirty billion C

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<v Speaker 2>if you per capsule, well, you you're just not getting enough.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at some supplements on my notes now and

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<v Speaker 1>it's got lacdo bacillis. Am I allowed to talk brands?

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<v Speaker 2>I think you can?

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<v Speaker 1>I can? Okay, all right, So I've got I've got

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<v Speaker 1>the ones that you know, I sort of use and recommend. So,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, Metagenics has one called Ultraflora intensive Care, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's got twenty two point five billion c few but

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<v Speaker 1>Lacdo Bacillis has ten billion, the Biffodo bacterium has five billion,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Sacrimias has seven point five billion. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>And so when you're saying, like, is it total that you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Saying, I'm looking total.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thirty billion, you said.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about a general probiotic here, So yeah, thirty

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<v Speaker 2>billion upwards is a really good amount. So I intensive

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<v Speaker 2>care that particular combination will exceeds that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm just looking. That was per capsule, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure the instructions would be probably two capsules anywhere. That

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<v Speaker 1>was twenty two point five. You know how we spoke

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<v Speaker 1>about Lacdo Bacillus, Biffodo bacterium, and Bacillus. Interestingly, I was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to find a supplement that contained all three, and

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<v Speaker 1>they generally don't.

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<v Speaker 2>No, they tend to separate the spore formers out why

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<v Speaker 2>this is a spore forming probiotic, right, they separate them

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<v Speaker 2>at because they're exceptionally stable spore forming probiotics so they

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<v Speaker 2>can survive stomach acid really reliably. They don't need such

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<v Speaker 2>a thick capsule coating because they'll survive stomach acid. So

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<v Speaker 2>they tend to market those individually or as a collection

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<v Speaker 2>of different strains of basillis, whereas the Lacto Bisilus and

0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:38.040
<v Speaker 2>Biffodo bacterial species need to be better encapsulated to survive

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<v Speaker 2>the stomach acid, so they separate them at.

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<v Speaker 1>If you were really focused on seeding in the best way,

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<v Speaker 1>you really wanted to go through a period of looking

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<v Speaker 1>after those healthy bugs, you might take two supplements. So

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<v Speaker 1>for example, I'm looking here on my list. You know

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<v Speaker 1>that Ultra Flora Intensive Care has the Lacto Bacillus and

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<v Speaker 1>the Biffido, But then there's another brand called Probispore that

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<v Speaker 1>has the bacillus, So I may choose to supplement with

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<v Speaker 1>both those for example.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's just broadening your base by doing that, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's a very good idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you just supplement all the time, person, or you

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<v Speaker 1>should cycle in and out of supplementing with probiotics.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a daily supplementer.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you have so reignited my passion for probiotics and

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<v Speaker 1>gut microbiome because it was really in favor a few

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. There were some really fascinating documentaries that came out,

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<v Speaker 1>and it kind of has gone a bit quiet. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's great to be reignited.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, you should always be focused on this. What

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<v Speaker 2>is coming is the volume of research is it's all

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<v Speaker 2>still being done, and they're still getting more and more

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<v Speaker 2>exciting as newer species get generically sequenced and then we

0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:57.600
<v Speaker 2>work out just what they do and we further better

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<v Speaker 2>understand the relationship we have with them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so so interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a good space. It's an evolving space, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>fun to work.

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<v Speaker 1>I imagine if anyone's out there thinking of doing a PhD,

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<v Speaker 1>which I am at some point, getting into microbiome, would

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<v Speaker 1>there be quite a lot of opportunities in that research space. Absolutely, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard that it would be Yeah, a very I

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<v Speaker 1>guess it's something that you're interested in. There's a lot

0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:27.879
<v Speaker 1>of opportunities there to wrap up, doctor Paul. If we

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<v Speaker 1>are as inspired as I am speaking to you, after

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<v Speaker 1>everything we've spoken about today, if a woman is going

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<v Speaker 1>to leave today and go all right, I'm just going to

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<v Speaker 1>do one or two of those things that are the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest leavers. That's really going to help support my healthy microbiome.

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<v Speaker 1>What would you recommend she goes and does?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying right, and to get rid of ultra

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<v Speaker 2>processed foods. So eat whole foods. Try and eat thirty

0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:56.119
<v Speaker 2>different plants a week, including fruits, fishables, and eat a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of fermented food.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, that's simple, doable. Removing the processed food that's the hard.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's a whole other conversation, very very hard.

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<v Speaker 1>But even starting with one meal a day, what can

0:21:09.480 --> 0:21:11.879
<v Speaker 1>I pull out of this or snacks because snacks are

0:21:11.920 --> 0:21:14.119
<v Speaker 1>a big one. I just feel like if the shelf

0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:17.800
<v Speaker 1>life is two years or longer, then surely it's got

0:21:17.800 --> 0:21:19.800
<v Speaker 1>stuff in it that can't be good for us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, absolutely true.

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<v Speaker 1>Dr Paul, thank you so much for your time today.

0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:25.879
<v Speaker 2>You're more than welcome.

0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:46.760
<v Speaker 1>Why is it so hard to get real answers about

0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:50.159
<v Speaker 1>your health? If you've been told that everything looks fine,

0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:52.399
<v Speaker 1>but you know that something is off, well, you're not

0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:56.200
<v Speaker 1>imagining it. That's why I created Vitality three point sixty

0:21:56.320 --> 0:21:59.280
<v Speaker 1>to help you better understand what's going on inside your

0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:02.639
<v Speaker 1>body that you can take the targeted action needed. With

0:22:02.720 --> 0:22:06.240
<v Speaker 1>a functional health approach plus testing, we go beyond the

0:22:06.320 --> 0:22:10.080
<v Speaker 1>guesswork to uncover the root causes of your symptoms. I've

0:22:10.119 --> 0:22:14.320
<v Speaker 1>teamed up with Dottyesmina, an incredible integrative GP and together

0:22:14.400 --> 0:22:17.480
<v Speaker 1>we will help you decode your body's signals and answer

0:22:17.560 --> 0:22:21.600
<v Speaker 1>questions like why am I always exhausted? What's really causing

0:22:21.640 --> 0:22:25.760
<v Speaker 1>my stubborn weight? Am I inflamed? Insulin resistant? Or maybe

0:22:25.760 --> 0:22:29.160
<v Speaker 1>missing key nutrients? Because when you understand your body better,

0:22:29.400 --> 0:22:32.520
<v Speaker 1>you can transform your health. Visit V three sixty dot

0:22:32.600 --> 0:22:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Health or check out the show notes for more