WEBVTT - Why RHOS's Caroline Never Wants To Film With Kate Again 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.599 This podcast was recorded and produced on gadigal Land. 0:00:02.759 --> 0:00:05.440 We would like to acknowledge the traditional custodians and pay 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:07.240 our respect to elder's past and present. 0:00:08.080 --> 0:00:10.360 Ladies and gentlemen, Can I please have your attention? 0:00:10.520 --> 0:00:13.280 This is my final MATHS related interview. 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:15.000 Are they talking about me? She's like yeah, it was 0:00:15.000 --> 0:00:19.640 Australia's reactions. 0:00:17.920 --> 0:00:20.240 Paused a lot of drama and they never got it. 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:22.120 It just went nuts. 0:00:23.720 --> 0:00:27.120 Hello and welcome back to another episode. Off back to reality. 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:30.240 I'm Selena and I'm Tany and we have. 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:34.839 Three three our most ever very exciting guest Real Housewives 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:38.440 of Sydney. We've got Chrissy, at Caroline and Victoria. 0:00:38.520 --> 0:00:42.440 Oh lady, thank you, thanks for having me, Thanks for 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:43.880 having us, thank you for being here. 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:46.360 Can I just say everyone looks just as stunning as 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:47.440 they are the one screen? 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:53.320 What I'm one hour? 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:54.520 One hour? 0:00:55.600 --> 0:00:58.880 But only because like you know, you're younger. 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:03.520 It's that I don't know why I think I'm just 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:06.039 less beauty like unless you girls are like. 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:10.640 Much Now death becomes her spray paint, the blue tack 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:15.319 sneaky tape, smoke and mirrors. 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:17.080 But do you go see your own glam? 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:17.640 No? 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:19.119 Never I'm hopeless. 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:23.160 Really, I sometimes but not all the time. 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:30.720 Caroline's amazing, you did all yours what really? She sometimes 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:34.319 do that, especially. 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:37.880 When it's it's back to back and you're not having 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:38.479 a good sleep. 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:40.440 Then I did have a little melt and we just 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:40.880 sit there. 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:45.040 I don't do anything, and Caroline I'm throwing things. 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:47.880 And because after like the third day, you want someone 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:50.160 to do it for sure, I learned, yes, I can 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:51.960 do it on the day, but if it's more than 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:55.640 one day back to back, I need someone, yeah, just 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:58.520 you know, to calm me down basically and bring me things. 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:02.600 So new season, how do we feel? 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:03.680 Fantastic? 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:05.240 Good, exhausted? 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:09.800 Really honestly to wrap that up, I think that viewers 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:13.600 are going to find this the most exciting Housewives season 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:15.040 ever in Austraine history. 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:19.160 I'm being serious, like it was rivertime back that and. 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:21.680 Also I think visually it was amazing as well. So 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:24.519 you didn't just have like I mean, obviously Sydney's fantastic 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:27.480 and we went to Nooser and then another secret destination. 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:31.359 But I think the overall, you know, our fashion, we 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:32.280 brought a. 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:36.520 Good We really did, and I think in terms of 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:40.320 the production this year, you know, although it's a reality 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:43.560 series and you know, there is nothing that scripted, Just 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:44.200 to get. 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:44.600 That out there. 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:48.280 Yeah, the production was so tight this year, so we 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:51.320 were able to get things done much faster. 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:54.160 They were much clearer storyline. 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:56.320 I think everyone's going to be able to follow things 0:02:56.440 --> 0:03:00.000 really neatly, you know, and it's a reality TV show, 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:02.000 so you don't want it to hurt your brain cells 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:04.519 to try to understand true. 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:07.440 Here? 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:10.880 Can I be completely honest because I love both season 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:14.800 one and two, But I felt like theson one really 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:17.480 brought like the shock factor and it was really like 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:20.080 a lot of drama, but a lot of like oh 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:22.560 she really say that? Did that actually come out of 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:26.239 her mouth? But then season two, I felt like it 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:29.360 was more just like a miscommunication and a clash of 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:33.280 morals and values, but it was a lot more civilized 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:35.560 because I think this is the day. 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:36.520 And age we're in now. 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:36.960 Yeah. 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:42.120 Unfortunately, you guys, some of the stuff that happens is 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:46.920 so much worse than you would ever see. So I 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:49.880 think with you know, the way that society is, the 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:52.440 way that reality shows are, you know, there's. 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:54.960 Only so much, you know, but I think you see 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:56.640 a lot of it. This season. 0:03:57.160 --> 0:04:01.240 I think that it was also about our Season two 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:04.040 was filmed, and that's what I alluded to with season three. 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:06.960 You know, different producers have different styles, So season two 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:09.840 was very much set the cameras up for eight hours, 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:13.040 let the cameras roll true reality style, a bit more 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:16.400 Big brother S Okay wow. So that's why maybe there 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:19.320 was more miscommunications and it was a little bit harder 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:19.839 to follow. 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:23.320 But it was our first time. It first time, like 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:26.000 it was our other than Christy and Nicole, we were 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:28.160 first time housewives. 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:30.000 Correct, And I think, like Christy said, it's you know, 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:32.160 the world's a different place what the world was ten 0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:36.000 years ago. We love the drama because we had the 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:38.560 we had the space to actually take that in. But 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:41.360 I think now these days everyone is just at their 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:44.680 breaking point. You know, everyone's just oh my god, what 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:47.719 what next? What's the next disaster? So then to put 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:50.320 that on our show as well, I think that could 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:51.720 be a little bit of an overload. So I think 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:54.480 they try to make a little bit more entertaining and 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:55.279 funny and. 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:57.200 Just to like aspirational. 0:04:57.279 --> 0:05:01.640 Aspirational I think to round that off. The whole odd 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:04.560 juxtaposition of what Caroline just said is although, and what 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:06.880 Christias said is, although we're in a different time and 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:10.720 everyone has to be more careful, the viewers actually still 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:11.800 want us to fight. 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:12.640 They still. 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:18.240 Can you imagine how hard that is for us, because yeah, 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:23.360 we like Caroline, Chrissy, myself, Nicole. We could film having 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:26.279 fun twenty a day, but you guys wouldn't want to watch, 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:31.239 you know, So unfortunately we are really treading a fine 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:35.039 line between entertaining you guys and staying true to our 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:35.920 morals and badness. 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:38.280 So I can imagine both of you. 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:40.400 You've had times where you've come across and things have 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:44.039 been tense, or have you We are what I would. 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:47.440 Say in our circle of reality TV. 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:50.960 Yes, but we actually really vibe very well, and we've 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:53.360 never had an issue, and we've kind of connected on 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:55.920 the struggles we've had within that space. 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:58.920 Yes, and we're both from different seasons yeah, married at 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:00.960 first sight as well, so we're never on the same one. 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:03.120 Yeah, And then we helped us a lot, and then 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:03.960 we kind of connect. 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:07.120 Sometimes I think with reality TV, people think it's survivor, 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:10.440 and it's not that shows survivor. It's like there's no winner, 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:13.159 no one gets it. Five hundred grand at the end 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:16.719 if you're years all this or that. And I think 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:19.479 that's what I grapple with a lot with this show, 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:24.200 is that it's this whole competitive competition for sure. And 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:27.000 you know, I mean I'm the eldest out of everyone. 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:28.640 I run my own race, I do my own thing. 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:30.440 I don't get caught up in that. And I think 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:31.799 that's really been helpful. 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:35.440 Yeah, I found that the hardest because in the real world, 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:39.040 the way I deal with problems is I'll cut people 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:42.159 off and walk away. And I had to learn to 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:45.640 come back in the seasons, Yeah, to come back, and 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:48.400 I had to sit at it and face it and 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:51.919 actually deal with it when I actually could not give you. 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:58.120 But speaking of that, did you block K or did 0:06:58.160 --> 0:06:58.800 she block you? 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:00.320 We need to get to the bottom of it. 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:05.400 In the very I don't blocked me, okay, okay, so 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:08.680 triggered that she came and blocked me okay. 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:15.560 And then I didn't even know, okay, it's a housewives 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:21.280 blocked anyone just so I did. 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:23.680 It was just like after, you know, after you know, 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:25.080 a lot of the a lot of the drummers did, 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:29.360 unfortunately happen off camera. Sure, so I did go and 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:32.000 block because I was like, I actually don't ever want 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:36.080 to actually even see you because I don't like the 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:38.680 person you are and be you boo. 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:40.640 I think it's fair. 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:44.520 I'm I think I don't like having energies stalking me 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:46.280 and watching me, and I think it's a bad evil 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:48.840 life like any account. 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:49.440 True, but. 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:56.280 That's even I remember the first person that has ever 0:07:56.600 --> 0:07:58.520 the only person that I'm aware of that's ever blocked me, 0:07:58.600 --> 0:07:59.760 was Roxy just saying. 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:05.320 Years and years ago of your friend Victoria Montana. 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:09.360 I used to love Chrissy, but I used to love 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:11.080 watching her in a fashion. 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:11.160 And all the time. 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:13.160 Then one day I was like, it's really weird. She 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:15.119 just doesn't come up having no clue. 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:16.240 That's what blocking is. 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:18.280 And then someone said to me, and then I went 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:20.160 through my dog's account, I could still watch. 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:23.280 So can I ask about blocking? 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:25.600 Because this is actually important because I'm not like a 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:30.200 huge blocker. I'm not delicious, but I am. I'm a muter, right. 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:31.920 Yeah, how do you mute? 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:33.200 Well, I can restrict. 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:36.320 I'm restrict and I've muted not because more just to 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:40.360 protect my piece. Can I ask if I was to block, 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:48.360 I don't know, no blocked all accounts I have so 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:49.000 if they. 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:53.520 Have like no, no, no, so my dogs still. 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:57.360 So it might have changed because if you block them 0:08:57.440 --> 0:08:59.640 and block all the accounts and any account. 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:03.199 Rocks, she should block my dogs. We actually get along 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:03.720 really well. 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:03.960 Now. 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:07.320 She cut me offrom the traffic the other day. 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:12.960 It was so my son's she and I'm like, oh, 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:14.640 there she goes up in me again. 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:19.559 Clarence, I look at. 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:21.760 It. 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:27.960 Next question, I have a question for Carolyn because I 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:30.960 watched the reunion of last seasons and you were so 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:34.040 upset and you kind of I guess Tany and I 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:37.040 come from reality TV and we know that there's you know, 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:40.160 producers that get involved in the drama, but there's also 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:43.880 certain cast members that kind of do what they want 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:45.880 to do to like get the most screen time. 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:46.640 Correct? 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:49.360 Is that kind of what you were alluding to with 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:52.040 Kate at. 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:53.520 The You know, I ignored it from the very beginning 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:56.160 because I saw from the get go there was a 0:09:56.200 --> 0:10:00.679 plan because she told me, and she's a we said. 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:02.679 Yes, she planned the plan was me. 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:06.080 Yes, I mean there was a whole you know, this 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:08.880 can't believe how silly Victoria is. I mean, she's bringing 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:10.040 real onto the show. 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:11.319 This will be easy. 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:14.559 Listen film and Winter really, but I wasn't really you know, 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:16.880 when you first meet someone, When I first meet someone, 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:20.080 I'm just like, oh, let's have film. I don't go 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:22.360 the negative angle. I'm like, yeah, I like you until 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:23.800 I don't and then I'll block you. 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:28.480 Sorry, can we go back to that thing? 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:31.959 So Victoria, you wore this beautiful vest and had like a. 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:37.160 That was actually the producers. 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:41.640 It's like Kate had obviously crafted this storyline. 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:43.400 With the producers like it was it was. It wasn't 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:45.960 with the producers. That was with her and Terry. 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:49.640 Ohr Andary Okay, I don't even know, but at that time, 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:51.960 it was sort of like VM against the world. 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:57.040 But I saw behind the scenes. I saw how it 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:57.600 was a plan. 0:10:58.040 --> 0:10:58.760 Yeah, you know, and I. 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:01.800 Thought, because I've never watched Housewives, I don't really watch TV, 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:03.600 so I was just kind of and you know, they 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:05.640 were all friend of friends prior, so I kind of 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:07.920 stood back and just was kind of watching it. I 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:10.560 didn't want to engage in something that I wasn't informed in. 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:13.480 So and as time went on I was watching, I 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:15.480 was like, oh, this is actually you. 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:16.199 Guys are planted. 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:20.800 But it was too their detriment and I think their 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:25.000 initial power was you know, they had their produce, the 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:27.880 producers of that season onside because they were bringing the fire, 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:31.160 but because of the style of the producers of last 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:31.920 season was. 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:33.440 Very much like the camera rolling. 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:36.760 Yeah, they were their own undoing. And that wasn't like 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:40.040 me going like oh yay, like but you know, the 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:43.079 cameras are rolling for eight hours. I'm not a natural 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:47.920 like fighter, so it's capturing you know, Kate in the 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:50.360 moment screaming, and so she sort of she was her 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:53.960 own undoing. But as I said in the reunion, like 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:58.319 I did not come onto this show to like participate 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:01.040 in any kind of virtue signaling. I came on the 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:04.800 show to be a fucking housewife. Yeah rich right, And 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:08.560 I think I Rich write quite well, and you know 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:09.680 that's all I have to say. 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:14.720 Like the Real Housewives of Auckland, where it's freezing cold, yes, 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:17.520 and Salt Lake and Salt Lake, no one says anything. 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:21.400 But also, but also I think with this whole that 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:24.640 whole season and also going into this season, I think 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:25.600 it's all true colors. 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:26.280 It's like when you. 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:28.360 Guys experience on maps. I mean, I loved it. I 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:31.200 haven't watched maps I watched. I'm watching this season and 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:34.600 I'm loving it, and I've been commenting on social media, 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:37.640 which I'm really loving, and I'm like, no, girl, that's 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:40.760 the way that you look, because that's who you are, honey, 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:45.720 because that's the thing. Oh no, but you know what 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:48.800 I mean, it's like no reality TV. Yes, you can 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:51.520 get about it. I totally agree with that. I'm not 0:12:51.559 --> 0:13:03.520 saying that you can't, but your true. 0:12:57.200 --> 0:13:00.880 True, and that's love. 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:03.959 I can't. 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:07.800 The thing about getting a bad edit, it's not that 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:10.679 you didn't say those things. You said all those things, 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:14.520 it's just sometimes the edit leaves out the key thing 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:15.679 that you mentioned. 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:19.280 Yes, yes, But I will go back to your question 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:22.680 because I feel like from the last two seasons, nobody 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:27.439 really understands the intense reaction I had to Kate at 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:31.280 the reunion, and I still even you know, I feel 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:33.400 like it still hasn't been explained. 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:35.680 And it's really. 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:39.560 Important to me because you know, I've never been able 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:43.760 to actually say, you know, just tell the whole progress 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:46.360 of how I got there. But I watched you know, 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:49.559 Kate from the very beginning, and I really liked her. 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:52.040 You know, she put my dog down. That was kind 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:53.640 of special doctor. 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:05.800 But you were grateful for that you had a bond over. 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:09.520 But anyway, I just thought, you know, blah blah blah. 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:12.439 But as you know, I watched first the takedown of Victoria, 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:14.640 and I thought, you've gone a little bit too far 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:17.400 because it was, you know, they took it offset. It 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:19.840 became social media bullying, and I was like, listen, you've 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:21.160 already taken her down on camera. 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:22.480 My mom got bullied. 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:25.760 Yeah, the reason that I have no family on this 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:29.440 season is because of how badly bullied my mom got 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:31.400 because of Kate's Instagram account. 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:34.040 So no one and I didn't even I wasn't really 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:36.200 close to Chrissy and Victoria. I mean, you know, I 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:42.840 was still trying to get over her Mariah at the moment, do. 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:46.520 I get? 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:51.040 I got my Hanes later, right, And so there wasn't 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:54.600 a bond, but out of like you know, sometimes you see, yeah, 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:56.080 she may be a bitch, la la lah, but then 0:14:56.080 --> 0:15:00.000 when you see the takedown become excessive. And I even 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:04.000 commented on her Instagram going, guys, she's a mother of 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:06.880 two small children. She needs her energy to be taking 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:09.680 care of those children and not to be fighting trolls 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:14.440 online that have been artificially instigated by somebody whose intention 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:15.600 is actually. 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:17.800 Quite it was planned evil. 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:21.280 I would say, it's like I'll attack, but there's there's 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:24.280 a point if your kids get involved, the family gets 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:25.080 affected to you've. 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:25.920 Got to draw the line. 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:28.840 This is and this is meant to be for entertainment. 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:32.000 We can call each other names, whatnot, but once it 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:34.520 starts affecting, you know. And the last straw for me 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:38.560 was at that lunch where it's supposed to be, where 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:41.160 we're all meant to, you know, talk it out with Victoria, 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:44.840 and what was shown on TV was nothing compared to 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:48.080 what was And in that moment I turned to production, 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:50.440 I said I never want to film with this woman 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:54.160 ever again. And so you can see from that lunch 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:56.520 there's hardly any interaction you'll see. 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:58.480 Then it's and I hate and Sally and Kate and 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:01.560 Sally so every scene because everyone had said it's too. 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:03.960 Much to ye And then that night she called me 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:06.960 cage goes, listen, I know you're because I stormed out 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:10.840 after we finished shooting. I stormed out and I was like, 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:11.520 I don't want to have. 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:13.360 Anything to do with the man you got on the boat. 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:14.560 And then you. 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:17.400 Know, we filmed, you know, a few more scenes, and 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:23.120 then on the boat that that day happened, talk about it. 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:27.200 I mean, okay, And then on the boat I was like, 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:30.480 when then, you know, when suddenly that whole thing went 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:33.680 down and it's like, you know, reality changes. And the 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:35.480 next thing, I'm sitting there and I look up and 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:37.720 she's sitting next to me, and I looked at it 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:40.280 and I was like, you know, I don't like you. 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:43.560 I told you that I never wanted to have anything 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:46.880 to do with you ever again, and here you are 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:51.760 consoling me. But as I was in that moment, I 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:55.440 kept looking up and going, are you for real? Anyway? 0:16:55.680 --> 0:17:00.080 From that moment on, you know, we finished filming and 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:02.520 and it wasn't until I saw it on TV because 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:05.360 in that moment, you're feeling it, You're not sure. Yeah, 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:08.640 I always need confirmation. And then when I saw it. 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:12.360 I'm like, oh my god, you used the most vulnerable 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:17.560 moment in my life to have your five minutes as 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:19.400 I've seen you do throughout this whole show. 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:22.560 And that's when I lost it. I was like, you 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:24.840 are actually you saw at the reunion. 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:26.840 That could see the pain in your eyes. 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:29.880 That was really good with me, She's. 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:32.080 Like, I mean, I don't know if your cameras can 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:34.199 see that, but it's like she's almost in hives. 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:36.560 But that's a tricky thing, like for all of. 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:41.280 Us nowhere near what Caroline went through. But just to 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:44.920 put it into perspective for the audience, like you only 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:47.199 get to see the highlights of the show, there is 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:52.320 a show behind the show the show, and when we're 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:55.320 doing a media interview, we can't address the show behind 0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:57.879 the show because the audience can't relate. It means nothing 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:01.280 to them. It sounds like wow, and that's why we're 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:02.200 telling you everything. 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:04.840 About and how much love do we have? 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:07.880 I hope this goes for two hours a season. 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:11.359 Season three does not get any better, but it mixes 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:17.359 up very interestingly. 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:17.200 Well. 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:19.600 In the first episode, we see the glow up party, 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:22.760 which was morgeous, and there was a couple of things 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:26.480 that were brought up, like I was offended for you 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:29.199 the comments Kate made about you. 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:30.240 You just with your. 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:35.399 And she doesn't wrong with that, and then it just 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:39.040 was like just come from But also everyone has. 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:43.880 Made money, everyone's at a job, everyone has actually been 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:47.080 successful in their own right, Like it is so demeaning 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:50.159 of a woman to another woman to say, you have 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:52.520 gotten your money from your husband, And I say to her, 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:55.600 every second of the day, have you bothered ever asked 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:58.320 me what I've done. I've had my own business for 0:18:58.359 --> 0:18:59.080 fifteen years. 0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:00.000 Victoria lived in. 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:03.720 Like when I met Tim, he lived in a one 0:19:03.840 --> 0:19:08.320 bedroom serviced apartment with no window. 0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:14.320 But like, oh, you know, is like, oh, she just 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:15.080 married a rich man. 0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:16.200 We weren't rich. 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:19.520 We were like the opposite of rich. Like we we 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:22.879 have just grow Look, I wouldn't go that far. We 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:25.080 had to grow together, you know. 0:19:25.200 --> 0:19:28.280 And and also by the way, like it doesn't matter 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:31.160 if your husband makes more money than you as someone 0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:32.760 as someone's making the fucking money. 0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:36.920 Yeah, yeah, is it all about man and woman. 0:19:38.560 --> 0:19:42.800 I think what we experience is just this constant you know, 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:45.720