1 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: From The Australian. I'm Claire Harvey. We're hoping you're having 2 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: a great holiday break and today we're bringing you one 3 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: of our favorite episodes from the year. This episode originally 4 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: aired on September twenty seven. As legendary rockers Cold Chisel 5 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: prepared to hit the road for their Big five OZHO tour. 6 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: The Australian went inside the rehearsal room to talk love, grief, 7 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: healing and joy with Jimmy Barnes, Charlie Drayton and Cold Chisel. 8 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: The Front will return with all new episodes on Monday, 9 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 1: January thirteenth. Just hit follow or subscribe to make sure 10 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: you don't miss an episode. 11 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: Maybe spy away. 12 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 3: You know that voice, that scream we all do. That's 13 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 3: Jimmy Barnes. 14 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: And this is Cold Chisel playing together for the first 15 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: time in years. The Australian was invited into a place 16 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: not even the most hardcore Chisel fans get to go, 17 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: the rehearsal room for their forthcoming national tour. This is 18 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: what Chisel chose to play first, a ballad written by 19 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: Don Walker in twenty ten, All for You. Once upon 20 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: a time, Jimmy Barnes would have warmed up for this 21 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: with a bottle of something hard in twenty twenty four. 22 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: His poison comes in a porcelain cup. 23 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 4: You could get me a coffee, would Yeah, yeah, It's 24 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 4: just a flat white with white white to please make 25 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 4: this sound. 26 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 3: I'm music writer Andrew McMillan sat down with the band. 27 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 4: I am the luckiest man in the world to get 28 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 4: up every night and sing this, this set of songs, 29 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 4: you know, like they sing Don Walker songs every night. 30 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 4: What a blessing, you know. I'm the luckiest going in 31 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 4: Australia to be able to do that, you know. 32 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: Barns guitarist and pianist and lyricist Don Walker, bassist Phil 33 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: Small and drama Charlie Drayton last played together in twenty 34 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: twenty at the end of their last tour. 35 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 4: I think it's going to be even better than it's 36 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 4: ever been because we've had this chance to think about 37 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 4: why we want to play. We're not coming in exhausted 38 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 4: from studio recording. I can just feel the excitement for everybody. 39 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 4: I can't wait again in front of an audience with 40 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 4: this band. 41 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: This tour is called the Big five Oho and it 42 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: sees the band older Grayer yes, but also in Barnes's case, 43 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: fresh from a brush with death, He's been through open 44 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: heart surgery and two major hip operations, all connected to 45 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: a raging staph infection. Barnes has had to strengthen his 46 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: battered body, especially his hips, to adopt his classic pose 47 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: standing with one foot upstage, one foot downstage, using his 48 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: full body to project that remarkable voice. 49 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 4: This tour is going to roll more than it rocks, 50 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 4: you know, which is a really cool thing. I think 51 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 4: it's going to have a lot more swing and a 52 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 4: lot more groove, which it doesn't mean it's going to 53 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 4: be less intense, but it's going to be not as 54 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 4: frantic maybe, which I think is going to be a 55 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 4: really cool thing. My thoughts are seeing in a just 56 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 4: a back off, you know, half a degree and load 57 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 4: the songs to swing a lot more as opposed to 58 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 4: pushing all the band because normally I want Everton played 59 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 4: faster and harder and lower. I'm going to let them 60 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 4: do their own thing and find the grooves that work 61 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 4: for the songs and singing with them. 62 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: All for you is especially meaningful for fans and for 63 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: the band themselves. 64 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 5: It's very clearly a love song written from one to another. 65 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 5: Don Walker wrote this for his partner at the time, 66 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 5: Good Shoe. Ginny Barnes loves singing this song that has 67 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 5: since it was written because it's a song that he 68 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 5: sings to Jane Barnes. 69 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 4: His wife, all day and it's. 70 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 5: You, and you can extrapolate that to the listener. It's 71 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 5: easily become honey of people's favorite love song because it's 72 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 5: just so direct, and it's written from a man to 73 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 5: a woman who's very earnestly and directly explaining what she 74 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 5: means to him. It's very bald and unpretentious and almost 75 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 5: like a country song in the way in that there's 76 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 5: very little artifice or pretension. It's just very direct. And 77 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 5: Don Walker would have been about sixty when he wrote this. 78 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 5: I'm guessing at least he's seventy two today, So it's 79 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 5: kind of funny. These great songwriters, the alder they get, 80 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 5: sometimes they strip away the metaphors and the messages and 81 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 5: say it real straight and it works just as well. 82 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: All for You was the last song the band recorded 83 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: with their former drummer Steve Prestwich. He died in twenty 84 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: eleven after surgery for a brain tumor, a loss that 85 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: is still raw. 86 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 4: Steve was one of my favorite people in the world, 87 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 4: one of my favorite drumas in the world. 88 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 1: At the time, Prestwich seemed irreplaceable. But then Charlie Drayton 89 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: came along, already established as an outstanding drama in his 90 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: own right, living in New York, married to another Australian 91 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: musical superstar, the Divinyls, Chrissy Amphlet. 92 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 4: Charlie's like a totally different beef, complete to Steve. He's 93 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 4: got the swing in this groove. He's relentless, he doesn't 94 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 4: let you miss it. You know, he's a king of groove. Listen, 95 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 4: if Charlie hadn't joined the band, if we hadn't met 96 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 4: up with Charlie, I don't think cultures or whatever I've 97 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 4: got back together after Steve died. 98 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 5: Hi, Charlie, Andrew, how are you doing? Love for me? 99 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 5: You get your hand. 100 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: When Andrew talks to Charlie Drayton after they rattle through 101 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: All for You in the studio, the emotion is momentarily overwhelming. 102 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: Back in twenty eleven, Chrissy Amphlet was suffering multiple sclerosis 103 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: and breast cancer, which eventually would claim her life. 104 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 5: Was the first time you guys have full five played 105 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 5: together in years. Right just then, how you feeling. 106 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 6: There's a music that's like medicine in that song book 107 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 6: been there's some healing in us. 108 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 7: Playing together because. 109 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 6: We play one way together, different to how we play 110 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 6: with the other musicians. So they have just played one 111 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 6: song together again. It's emotional because we've been We've been 112 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 6: through a lot to get back here. 113 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: And. 114 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 6: I love playing music with these guys. 115 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 2: If you had told me in twenty eleven, hey, Charlie, 116 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: I have a feeling that you know you might link 117 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 2: up with coaches, I'd be like, you're crazy. 118 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 7: I was sitting. 119 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 6: With my wife, Christie, who had just entered a. 120 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 7: Major change of life. We were sitting together when we 121 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 7: heard the news about Steve passing. She said, the COACHSTL 122 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 7: decides to play again, they'll come looking for you. Three 123 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 7: days later she got an email from Gone. 124 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 4: She knew, She just knew so. 125 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 6: And that's initially what brought us together. Playing music was 126 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 6: about healing, and every chapter we've come together, we learned 127 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 6: the value of like life. We have music at the 128 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 6: top that's medicine, but you know it's healing right now, 129 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 6: that's why I'm feeling some happy. 130 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 1: Joy coming up the meeting behind another of Cold Chisel's 131 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: deeply moving smash hits. This story is from The Australian's 132 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: Review section. 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I'm just saying, man for me 140 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 8: your sad. 141 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: This is, of course Flame Trees, the nineteen eighty four 142 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: song that never went to number one, but it has 143 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: become an enduring part of the soundtrack to Australian Life. 144 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 5: Got It's music was composed by Steve Prestwich. The drama 145 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 5: and oddly the drummer composed it on bass guitar first. 146 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 5: From what I've read, he composed it across many months 147 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 5: backstage at col Chissel shows while they're on tour. He 148 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 5: was constantly playing with a chord progression, a bassline that 149 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 5: became the driving force of the song, but he never 150 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 5: could get lyrics to it. He also was a lyricist 151 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:34,239 Speaker 5: a songwriter, but this one, for whatever reason, eluded him. 152 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 5: And it wasn't until I think either Don Walker heard 153 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 5: him playing it backstage or Steve asked him directly, do 154 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 5: you want to write something to this? 155 00:10:44,800 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 8: Lose the Bai dram sat back down. 156 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 5: Gone. Walker got in a nostalgic kind of frame of 157 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 5: mind thinking of his growing up in Grafton and also 158 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 5: just the notion of being a young man on the 159 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 5: cusp of adulthood and what that all represented and worked 160 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 5: into what became this song. It's a song of coming 161 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 5: and going. As in the character in the song, the 162 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 5: protagonist has left, but he's coming back for the purposes 163 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 5: of this song and seems to disdain or look back 164 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 5: with some regret on what this town represented to him, 165 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 5: and yet he's drawn back to it. And there's elements 166 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 5: that he assuming it's a heat I mean, it's from 167 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 5: mal perspective, elements that he can't get away from that 168 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 5: kind of magnetic pool that so many of us have 169 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 5: to our hometowns where we grew up. And it's such 170 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 5: a young person's song, and I suppose that's why it's 171 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 5: resonated with Chisel's audience at that time when it was released. 172 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 5: Initially young people who are now what forty years older, 173 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 5: which is primarily the fan base. I suppose middle aged 174 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 5: people and above, But it's a young person's song because 175 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 5: it's talking about that cusp of young adulthood where you're 176 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 5: trying to find your place in the world and you've 177 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 5: come from somewhere and you're looking back at it with 178 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 5: a certain sense of emotion and you're hoping what's ahead 179 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 5: of you is better than where you came from, but 180 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 5: you never really know. 181 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 4: This has never been a band that feels is so 182 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 4: good for me as this band. You know, there's just 183 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 4: something about the way the rhythm section play, the way 184 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 4: that Dawn approaches a pea. I don't know anybody else 185 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 4: plays piano like him and Mossy. The interaction between Mossy 186 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 4: and Don sometimes you can't tell where Don's leaving off 187 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 4: and where Mossie is felling in the chords, and that's real. 188 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 4: It's really unique. And as soon as the band starts playing, 189 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 4: I just I feel comfortable. And that's where I've literally 190 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 4: learned how it's seen doing that so to be able 191 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 4: to do it fifty years down the track is a 192 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 4: real gift. 193 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 5: They acknowledge that these songs mean a lot to a 194 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 5: lot of people. They're currently gearing up to play this 195 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 5: great songbook once again, to reopen the songbook for a 196 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 5: generation of Australians, perhaps who didn't get the chance to 197 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 5: see them last time around. It was five years ago, 198 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 5: and with every passing year, more and more people find 199 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 5: this great band because the songs that they've written are timeless. 200 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: You can read all the nation's best news, sport, politics 201 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,719 Speaker 1: and business anytime at the Australian dot com dot a 202 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: u