WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 5 December 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:04.840 The Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray Live. 0:00:06.400 --> 0:00:09.520 Thank you, James, Happy Thursday. So much to get to tonight, 0:00:09.640 --> 0:00:11.760 including it's fun. 0:00:12.320 --> 0:00:15.000 What's happening right now with parts of the. 0:00:14.960 --> 0:00:18.759 Media turning on Albo Now, the Prime Minister has had 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:21.360 a chockra of a year. He went for a reset 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:24.320 after a choker of a year last year, yet of 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:26.480 course it didn't work out. The bookies say the Peter 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:29.320 Dutman's favorite to be the next prime minister, and increasingly 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:33.360 the feeling is that Alba might not be able to 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:35.599 even pull off a minority government. Of course, it all 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:37.879 happens when it comes to the teals. But as you know, 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:41.160 the media have always given the benefit of the doubt 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:43.960 to this bloke because they hated the last bloke. 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:45.960 Now you could say that's because. 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:48.640 They generally speaking don't like the right of center or 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:53.479 the liberal, let alone a conservative. But these guys have 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:56.360 always given the government the benefit of the doubt. 0:00:56.440 --> 0:00:57.680 We have called it out on this. 0:00:57.760 --> 0:01:01.120 Show the whole way through too little, too late. Tax 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:04.880 cuts were too little and were too late. We saw 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:08.600 that when this government took fifteen hundred dollars off ten 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:12.640 million workers at the height of twenty twenty threes cost 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:15.080 of living crisis. We saw that for the problem that 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:19.920 it was, the media pretended that it didn't really even happen. 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:23.360 And there have been many examples, many examples that when 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:25.280 all else fails, blame Dutton. 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:28.399 You said, in your own words, this was a test 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:29.280 of your leadership. 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:30.680 So have you failed that test? 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:33.240 Why shouldn't you stay as leader? It was branded a racist. 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:35.240 Peter Dutton is being blasted this morning. 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:37.120 You have been criticized for being racist. 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:40.920 The opposition leader has been branded as heartless and racist. 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:45.759 Can you understand that this it could be divisive and 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:47.880 inflame tension. 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:48.560 To many voters. 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:52.480 The former Defense, Immigration and Home Affairs Minister is a 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:57.240 hard head, a public image his own colleagues concede is problematic. 0:01:57.400 --> 0:02:00.360 Now he's unleashing attack lines and what he claimed would 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:03.280 be the most radical change to Australian democracy. 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:05.760 And then, of course the apex of all of it 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:11.600 was the absolutely independent, taxpayer funded commentator. Because they're allowed 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:16.919 to be both straight reporters and commentators. Sorry, analysis pieces 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:19.960 is what they write. When I made lefty Lord Tingle 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:22.200 sitting there with nasty Nikki Sava at one of the 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:25.720 book fairs around the country, Well just opines that. For 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:30.200 Peter Utton to talk about immigration and the need to 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:33.360 cut it because there's not enough houses, because there's not 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:36.320 enough services, well of course that's all racist, even of 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:39.480 course that famous dog whistle that could be heard around 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:44.880 the country of her fear of how evil conservatives would 0:02:44.960 --> 0:02:47.840 turn on anyone who doesn't look like them. 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:52.239 For a major point the Core University saying, as Nicky says, 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:54.800 you know everything that's going role in this country is 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:59.760 because of my grants and this way. Shouldn't people to 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:03.000 out to try to read a property or in an 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:05.440 auction and they looked a bit different? 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:06.680 What have you to find different? 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:11.000 As basically he has given them license to the abused. 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:13.760 Now, of course, the person sitting next to a nasty 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:16.480 Nicki Sava and oh hasn't she been. 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:19.359 Part of the hating on conservatives? 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:23.680 You know she was a Costello liberal and a turnable 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:28.080 liberal and anything else other than that, Oh, they most terrible, terrible, terrible. 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:34.160 She's written analysis pieces like this in the channel on newspapers. 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:37.400 Next we Alberonizi done in his labour's greatest asset. So 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:41.480 she was quite the fan, so much so that even 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:44.840 when people were doing freedom of information requests to see 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:47.520 who the Prime Minister has been meeting with, because despite 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:51.520 the promise of being a transparent leader, you had to 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:55.200 pay for the right to be able to even ask 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:58.200 his offers who he has been meeting with. And let's 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:01.160 read what the result of that was. The inner sanctum 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:04.600 of those that have been given access to the Prime 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:09.080 Minister in his first days in office one on one meetings, 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:13.600 including with The Guardian's political editor Catherine Murphy, the Cydney 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:16.760 Morning Herald columnist Nicki Sava, so she's number two. 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:19.080 And then of course Peter. 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:21.800 Hartcher James was Sola Pvo back when he was a 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:25.960 Channel ten, Channel seven's political editor and the foreign editor 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:29.760 of the Australian Greek Sheridan. But the number one seed 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:34.159 in the Albo fan club. Well, she went on to 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:40.320 work for Anthony albernizi Murfheru. Of course she couldn't just 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:42.720 objectively report. She had to become part of the Prime 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:46.000 Minister's press office, which means, according to this list, second 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:48.680 cab off the rank is there, I mate nasty Nicky 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:52.400 Sava and these people were all excited because this guy 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:54.960 was going to rule forever. The Prime Minister had a 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:57.880 dirt unit which was going to dig up everything. When 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:03.080 it comes to Peter Dutton, well, guess who turned today 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:08.680 on Anthony Albanesi Old nasty Nikki Sava, the second seed 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:13.320 in the private interviews with the Prime Minister when he 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:17.440 first came to office. If Alberzi wins the next election, 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:22.840 he should celebrate, then step aside, she says, within twelve 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:25.800 months of the result. If there is a minority or 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:29.680 a majority, but anything other than a labor loss, he's 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:32.599 gone or should leave of his own accord within twelve months. 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:35.960 If Anthony Abernezi wins the next election to govern, either 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:38.480 a majority or a minority, he should after a decent 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:42.039 interval one year. She said that on radio this afternoon. 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:44.000 Retire so Labour can regenerate. 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:48.400 If Alberzi loses next year, which once seemed improbable and 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:52.440 now possible, obviously he's finished. 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:54.320 There'll be a blood bath. He'll be the one to 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:55.240 blame all the rest of it. 0:05:56.920 --> 0:06:01.960 Now, What an extraordinary turnaround from a media that let 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:04.640 this guy get away with anything when he was the 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:10.640 opposition leader, who let him pretend. Oh, I'm completely positive. 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:12.800 When it comes to dealing with the pandemic, while of 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:16.080 course every opportunity to put the ship in to every 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:20.479 decision that was being made, voting for the end of 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:23.440 job keeper, while winging about the end of job keeper, 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:28.320 promising to do something about cost of living, yet cost 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:33.880 of living become demonstrably worse since becoming Prime minister. The 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:39.400 bloke from the Housing Commission joint, who understood the working class, 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:43.920 who just buys the joint for four and a bit 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:47.240 million dollars for when he eventually needs a spare house 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:51.560 at a time when millions of people are struggling to 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:55.200 pay off their home. Now we've made this point from 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:57.960 before this bloke became the Prime minister. We saw this 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:02.119 disaster coming and on the front line of it every 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:06.360 day since he became Prime Minister. Now, before we all 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:09.159 get too carried away, I still believe that, if I 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:11.920 have to bet, most likely outcome of the next federal 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:14.200 election is a massive improvement for the coalition, but most 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:16.840 likely the Teal seats most of them staying, meaning that 0:07:16.880 --> 0:07:18.880 the government will be in a position to form a 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:20.920 minority government. And because most of the people on the 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:24.280 cross bencher center left, that's probably how it'll go but 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:28.000 there's every chance it doesn't because it's been bad for 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:34.480 years under this bloke. But what I find quite strange 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:37.400 is that the media has already decided who the next 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:40.560 in line is, and it's grim Jim Charmers. 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:44.240 They believe that the bloke from. 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:49.080 Queensland, Oh, he could immediately neutralize Peter Dutton, his four 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:54.400 D chess brain of a political doctorate in the way 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:59.120 keeping soul economics, that will be the future for the 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:03.720 Labor Party. The only problem is if the economy is 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:06.960 one of the reasons why Albo might have to go 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:11.440 or Australians might get rid of him at an election, 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:17.280 why is there a magnificent improvement in their chances by 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:20.840 replacing him with the bloke who has been driving the 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:25.720 economy down the drain. Charmers was asked about it today 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:28.440 and despite the fact that, of course, please it's not 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:32.480 going to happen, he knows now that the camera bubble 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:36.440 who create you and destroy you, have decided that he 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:37.520 is next in line. 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:42.319 My expectation and my hope is if we do win 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:46.480 the election next year, that Anthony Albanezi serves a full 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:48.720 term and runs again. That's what I would expect to happen. 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:49.920 That's what I would hope would happen. 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:50.960 Why should that happen? 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:53.080 And the best version of the best version of that 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:55.640 for me is to continue being the nation's treasurer. 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:56.880 Why why should that happen? 0:08:56.880 --> 0:08:57.080 Though? 0:08:58.640 --> 0:08:59.800 Like what's wrong with change? 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:03.280 Well, I think we've got. One of the things that 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:05.480 we'll be taking to the Australian people is a sense 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:09.240 of stability, a sense that we've got an economic plan. 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:12.120 We're rolling that out in difficult times. We're helping people 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:15.640 where we can. And that's a tribute to Anthony's leadership 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:17.959 that we've been able to do that. And so people 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:22.920 should anticipate. I certainly anticipate and expect and hope that 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:25.719 if we win the next election that Anthony will be 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:27.000 around for as long as possible. 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:31.439 Now, I've been critical of the Prime Minister for all 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:34.520 the reasons that we have built the case for a 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:37.840 long time about his lack of judgment. We saw him 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:40.440 as a fake before he became the Prime Minister. Each 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:44.240 way elbow all of these things that at times we 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:49.000 have been ridiculed for or I've been directly abused for saying. 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:53.160 Now seems to be the dominant view that this guy. 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:56.880 His time is running out, even if he somehow finds 0:09:56.880 --> 0:10:00.360 a way through the next election. And that mean that 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:03.600 if the media starts to signal this, well, then they 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:06.600 won't give him the benefit of the doubt. They won't 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:12.360 give him the best possible spin on the ball. And 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:17.960 this is because they think not that Peter Dutton is 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:20.240 going to be a better prime minister, but because they 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:23.120 think anyone but is the option that they have to 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:23.840 get behind. 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:26.280 Now. 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:30.000 It is always dangerous trying to take another country's politics, 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:31.880 clicking and dragging and pretending that it has some sort 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:35.320 of overlap here in Australia, but this was the exact logic. 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:38.520 We must get rid of Joe Biden because we have 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:42.520 to beat Donald Trump now again, the caucus rules are 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:46.160 very clear that you need to have two thirds of 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:48.960 the party vote to get rid of a sitting prime minister. 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:49.840 That won't happen. 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:55.920 Ironically, you only need fifty plus one of the party 0:10:56.000 --> 0:10:58.400 room to vote to change the rule about the three quarters, 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:01.640 so that's how they would potentially around it. But more importantly, 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:08.400 we've started this crap again. Australia should be able to 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:10.360 hire and fire its own prime ministers. 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:13.360 Okay, some will rule. 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:19.000 For multiple cycles, some will rule for shorter cycles. And 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:23.800 Anthony Albinezki, of course, will have been kicking the proverbial 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:31.439 and metaphorical pet at how angry he would be that somebody, 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:35.319 as in the tent as nasty Niki Saba, is now 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:40.000 openly saying, pal even if you win, please go away. 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:43.240 But Jim Chalmers is not the answer for the Labor 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:46.800 Party because he has been the steward over an economy 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:52.560 that just this week is barely sputtering along. And again, 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:54.600 finally the people who gave the benefit of the doubt 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:56.840 are not giving it any more. These are the headlines, 0:11:57.240 --> 0:11:59.720 A terrible set of numbers for a treasurer and a 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:00.760 Reserve Bank governor. 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:03.920 Jim Chalmers can't walk both sides of sorry street. 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:07.040 Albo has wrecked our economy and left us poorer than 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:08.680 we were seven years ago. 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:11.960 Ozzie's are thousands of dollars. 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:14.440 Worse under Labor as economic growth slows to a thirty 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:21.959 year record. Changing the messinger is not going to change 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:25.959 the message. And the message was that you promised to 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:32.520 make it better, but you made it worse, which brings 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:36.840 us to the alternative Prime Minister in Peter Dutton campaigning 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:40.160 today and knowing that every day where Parliament does not return, 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:43.720 we are part of an election campaign. He was spending 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:47.040 time in and around New South Wales, particularly Sydney today 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:50.080 and actually up on the Central Coast as well, trying 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:54.520 to launch a whole collection of candidates, candidates who may 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:56.040 have been around for a long time, may have just 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:59.760 been introduced, but he needs all of those people to 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:01.520 win for him to be able to get anywhere close 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:05.720 to minority, let alone actual government. Yesterday it was on 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:07.839 the Northern Beaches of Sydney where he was introducing the 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:11.880 people to take on two of the teals that many 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:15.760 believe are immovable. Yet these are good middle of the 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:19.240 road smart options for people of the Northern Beaches and 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:21.280 other parts if they want to come back to the 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:24.400 fold to be able to do so. But I want 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:27.360 you to see in one thing that Peter Dutton said 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:30.880 this week that to use cricket parlance, he can see 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:35.559 the wickets when many people have buggerized around in public life. 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:40.280 When talking about the Australia Day bands of the pub Company, 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:45.960 there were people who are you know, the days complicated. Oh, 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:48.120 everyone's allowed to do what they want to do. Go 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:51.120 in whichever direction they want to go. This was Peter 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:53.400 Dutton middle stump. 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:57.440 If you've got a Christmas booking at a pub or 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:00.480 an Australia booking at a pub with your friends or 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:04.160 family that's not celebrating Australia, cancel it and go to 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:07.560 another pub that's celebrating Australia Day and you'll see the 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:09.360 companies change their behaviors pretty quickly. 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:10.280 They're changing. 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:13.560 They're not closing down the pokies on Australia are they. 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:16.559 They're not saying that they're going to reduce the price 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:21.000 of beer on Australia Day because it's you know, philosophically 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:22.960 what they want to do. They're still happy to make money, 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:27.080 and I think they should be supporting our national cause, 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:29.560 and our national cause is best advanced when we celebrate 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:31.040 the great country We are. 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:35.600 Good, straight, fast bowling fump bales flying in the air. 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:40.200 That's the line and length that an opposition leader needs 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:43.680 to get through and to keep a government on the defensive. 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:46.720 But most of the more importantly, what type of leader 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:48.800 do we want for our country? I want somebody who 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:51.320 is as clear as that in relation to something as 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:54.240 ridiculous as the pubs that will be open and we'll 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:56.360 have their poker machines open, and you can still get 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:59.280 pissed in on Australia Day, coming out and making some 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:01.520 moral boziz about Australia Day. 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:04.600 I want that clarity of leadership. Now. 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:08.320 We will produce plenty of people who don't like decisiveness, 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:12.480 but Australians like decisiveness, and certainly at a time when 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:15.200 things have gotten much worse rather than better, they are 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:17.680 going to start to term to this. Is this me 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:19.760 sitting here tonight predicting the outcome of the next to 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:22.280 federal election. No am I stupid enough to tell you 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:25.880 what that is? No, nothing is inevitable. We knew this 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:30.400 in the twenty nineteen election and it will be so 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:34.760 for the upcoming election. And outside of the message of 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:40.560 Australia Day today, Port Stevens, north of Sydney, in fact, 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:43.200 at north of Newcastle, they've got an offshore wind farm 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:46.640 project which is on its way and many locals, including 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:48.880 plenty who I wouldn't imagine I voted Liberal ever in 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:53.080 their life, hate the idea of this stuff changing what 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:57.720 is a beautiful part of Australia guess who is building 0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:01.840 the wind farms current government, who won't if they become 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:02.360 the government. 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:05.880 If there is a change of government at the next election, 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:09.240 then we can give it assurance to this local community 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:12.960 that this project will not proceed. The Prime Minister's every 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:15.960 decision is about how he can try and stop the 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:18.360 hemorrhaging of votes from the Labour Party to the Greens. 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:23.440 We've looked at the area design where these wind turbines 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:27.520 were projected to go two hundred and sixty meters above 0:16:27.600 --> 0:16:30.120 the water. This is going to be a scar on 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:30.840 the landscape. 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:35.920 Correct this concept of to save the atmosphere, we must 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:40.520 destroy the earth. Common sense people know that that's not 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:43.560 the answer. And even if Labor the Greens get everything 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:46.320 they want when it comes tom newble energy projects, Australia 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:48.920 is one percent of the climate problem. Places like China 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:53.640 can continue to exponentially pollute until twenty thirty and while 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:55.760 we're going to net zero for twenty fifty then not 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:57.160 doing it till twenty sixty. 0:16:57.560 --> 0:16:58.880 They pollute thirty three. 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:01.360 Times more than we do. Because of course they have 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:06.639 a population of obidian people and they deliberately keep some 0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:09.520 of their people in poverty, some of their people working 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:13.720 slave labor to build the very solar panels that we 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:18.680 end up buying and installing in this country in order 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:20.439 to be able to turn around and call themselves a 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:23.600 developing nation. But we know China's not a developing nation. 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:28.080 They literally invented islands in the South China Sea, They've 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:33.760 got an international space station, they held two Olympic Games 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:36.960 so far in the twenty first century. The idea that 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:42.159 they're a developing nation is of course garbage. But Australia 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:46.479 under this government and under the green tinges that exist 0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:49.000 in the more comfortable parts of the country, they say 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:52.240 we must do this. But of course if you try 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:56.679 to put a single wind turbine or a single solar 0:17:56.720 --> 0:17:58.879 panel in the local doggy park of a teal or 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:01.320 a green seat, their heads will explode. 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:03.400 So what do they do. 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:05.880 They say, all of this must be built with four 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:08.919 fifths of bugger all ability to argue against it. Literally, 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:12.000 they change the law in Victoria to reduce the rights 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:14.800 of local communities to be able to push back on 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:17.720 these developments. And these people have had enough. 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:24.720 It just seems like an active environmental vandalism kept our climate. 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:26.600 But at the same time we want to make sure 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:29.119 that we're not just throwing and damaging nature. 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:32.280 We won't rest until some level of common sense prevailed. 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:34.560 This is a community that don't believe that this is 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:35.960 the right place to put a wind farm. 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:39.520 Absolutely support renewables, but they shouldn't be at the expense 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:40.680 of small communities. 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:41.880 Take them somewhere else. 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:44.040 Take them down the west coast of Tassi, or somewhere 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:45.960 you have miles and miles of land. 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:49.480 They're wind swept, nice and flat. Take them for thousands 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:49.960 of them there. 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:53.800 You see, this, in part has always been the problem 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:58.119 about the transition to renewable energy, which is it'll poll 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:01.240 really well to say yes, we must do it. Are 0:19:01.280 --> 0:19:02.160 you willing to pay for it? 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:02.560 No? 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:06.280 Do you want it built near u Elm, Which is 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:09.120 why the opposition's position of saying okay nuclear. Yes it'll 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:10.480 cost a lot of money, and yes it'll cost a 0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:12.239 lot of time to get it up and running, but 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:14.600 we've got colon gas to get us to that point. 0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:17.680 It's not going to have the same impacts on the 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:20.239 land in terms of the literal number of sites that 0:19:20.800 --> 0:19:24.520 that's the policy of the opposition and pole off to 0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:25.800 poll Off to pole Off to Pole Off to Pole 0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:27.639 Off Pole Pole is now saying that the majority of 0:19:27.640 --> 0:19:30.760 Australians are open to the idea of it. I think 0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:32.080 the way to sell it is to turn around and 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:34.320 say that in any local government area where one of 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:37.879 these things goes one hundred percent free power for life, 0:19:38.680 --> 0:19:40.400 all right, and you watch. 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:41.480 I've been to. 0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:46.920 Many, many, many, many dozens and dozens and dozens of regional. 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:47.800 Communities around Australia. 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:50.080 They would put their hand up for it, put both 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:53.240 hands up, as opposed to the very same regional communities 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:56.120 who are just being told, sorry, the farming doesn't matter anymore. 0:19:56.480 --> 0:19:58.720 This is just a great place to plunk. The stuff 0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:01.119 that creates the energy has to go back to the city. 0:20:01.480 --> 0:20:03.080 Oh yeah, but if you want any of it like 0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:06.160 Broken Hill, no, you can sit in the dark for 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:10.840 ten days, because our warm feelings more important than your 0:20:10.880 --> 0:20:17.080 fridge staying on. Now, we were first to talk about 0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:21.400 the Australia Day Ban here from these pubs. We did 0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:24.239 so at the start of this week. Of course, it 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:27.480 was allegedly reversed on its way through, but it's not 0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:29.040 a full reversal. And I've got to say, and where 0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:31.280 Rida Panahy is in her column The Herald some this 0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:34.199 week where she says, look shove your apology. So as 0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:36.919 you've heard me say before, the venue that is one 0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:39.840 of these venues that I've gone to many many times 0:20:39.880 --> 0:20:42.520 over many, many many years, and I've got incredible memories 0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:47.240 of really happy occasions. I'm not going to that joint 0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:50.919 this summer at all because of what they had to 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:52.520 say in and around the Australia Day stuff. 0:20:55.080 --> 0:20:56.879 But it brought me up and it's one of the 0:20:56.920 --> 0:20:57.280 things that. 0:20:57.359 --> 0:20:59.720 Has probably united us for a long time, which is 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:01.880 that Australians are cool with change, but we're not cool 0:21:02.280 --> 0:21:03.720 with change for change's sake. 0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:07.200 And for these people who believe. 0:21:07.000 --> 0:21:09.359 That, well, if we move from January twenty sixth, then 0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:10.560 there'll be somewhere there. 0:21:10.400 --> 0:21:11.240 Is no other date. 0:21:12.280 --> 0:21:15.320 The marking of modern Australia, the celebrating of modern Australia 0:21:15.520 --> 0:21:18.400 is an absolute offense to the people who don't want 0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:22.119 modern Australia to have ever existed. Of course, some of 0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:24.280 these people like having it both ways, like old mate 0:21:24.320 --> 0:21:28.000 Lydia Thorpe, who hates the colony but will gladly take 0:21:28.000 --> 0:21:32.919 the colony's money to sit in the colony's parliament. But 0:21:33.000 --> 0:21:36.000 for others, they just had this view that no invasion day. 0:21:36.880 --> 0:21:39.919 That's the focus when it comes to January the twenty sixth, 0:21:40.320 --> 0:21:43.359 nothing else. But jeez, it was good to see people 0:21:43.400 --> 0:21:46.639 push back against that band this week. It was a 0:21:46.680 --> 0:21:49.600