Speaker 1: Welcome to three sixty five League from every angle, brought
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Speaker 1: me Dan Gnale, Let's bring the journe Australian Buzz, Rothriel
Speaker 1: and Brent Ree. We've got a huge show coming up
Speaker 1: with a new segment called Heavy Hitters. Peter Velandi's the
Speaker 1: boss of the NFL. He's coming up very shortly, but
Speaker 1: breaking news buzz over the past the hours all were
Speaker 1: through it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're in the green room and we got the
Speaker 2: text message from the Newcastle Knights and the officials there.
Speaker 2: Dylan Brown, Paramatteriel's five eight has signed for ten years
Speaker 2: at the Newcastle Knights. The contract will start next season.
Speaker 2: He's with Paramatta for the rest of the year. Really,
Speaker 2: I believe it's the richest long term deal in rugby
Speaker 2: league history and there's going to be a lot of
Speaker 2: debate out there, particularly after yesterday, whether he's actually worth
Speaker 2: that amount of money.
Speaker 3: Well, the debate's been going on, hasn't a buzz And
Speaker 3: look he's got ten days now that cooling off period
Speaker 3: comes into effect because his management's Lodge knows some intention
Speaker 3: to leave Paramatter with the NRL. Once that is done,
Speaker 3: the ten day cooling off period comes into effect. He's
Speaker 3: not going to change his mind. I mean, how can
Speaker 3: you change his mind on thirty million dollars and that's
Speaker 3: the minimum.
Speaker 4: You know, there's.
Speaker 3: Ratchets and all sorts of things, and then to take
Speaker 3: it beyond that, so it's.
Speaker 2: A mega deal.
Speaker 3: It's been a lot of pressure on him, but you know,
Speaker 3: he's always struck me the sort of guy who doesn't pressure.
Speaker 3: Doesn't really seem to know it affected him yesterday, but
Speaker 3: in life it doesn't really seem to affect deal.
Speaker 5: And so we'll see how he handles it.
Speaker 6: Why today, Why was he just waiting for this first
Speaker 6: round to be done and dusted.
Speaker 4: It's a Monday, so obviously it's fairness is.
Speaker 2: To the next game.
Speaker 6: I guess what I'm asking is, was this fairly inevitable?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 2: I think he went back to Paramatter at the end
Speaker 2: of the day late last week and said, look, this
Speaker 2: is the situation. I have to take this contract unless
Speaker 2: you guys can get closer, you know, to what I'm
Speaker 2: looking for in Newcastle and they said see you later.
Speaker 2: And I can understand that.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 2: Peter O'Sullivan, the Knight's recruitment boss, a very good operator.
Speaker 2: He signed Coordiner, he signed the Trell Mitchell two Vasar
Speaker 2: check Marner at the Roosters, that Stormy signed English and
Speaker 2: for low. He knows what he's doing. But I rang
Speaker 2: him last night after watching Dylan Brown. I said, you
Speaker 2: sure you're going to go ahead with this deal because
Speaker 2: I thought he was really disappointing, And you said, yeah,
Speaker 2: we are.
Speaker 6: You respect the names you just mentioned don't compare with
Speaker 6: Dylan Brown, not yet.
Speaker 4: No, no.
Speaker 2: But what I'm trying to say is Sullivan knows what
Speaker 2: he is. He's got a good red. But if this
Speaker 2: guy is worth one point three or if it goes
Speaker 2: to one point four with ratchet causes, when the salary
Speaker 2: cap goes up, what does that make Callen Palmer work?
Speaker 4: Can you explain how the ratchet clause works?
Speaker 1: I know we spoke about it a little bit last week,
Speaker 1: but now that it has happened, it's official.
Speaker 3: So obviously the cup goes up, his salary will go up,
Speaker 3: but there's a cap on it, so I can never
Speaker 3: really the cup goes up fifty percent, his salary won't
Speaker 3: go up fifty percent. That's cap as to how high
Speaker 3: it will go. I believe it's around the one point format.
Speaker 4: So he won't get more than one point four any year, and.
Speaker 3: Which means I'll never be paid more than Calen Ponger,
Speaker 3: which I think is really important because Caitlin's already on
Speaker 3: more than that. So Caitlyn's a superstar, the captain of
Speaker 3: that footy club. And you know, I understand why they're
Speaker 3: doing it. You know, this is a club that has
Speaker 3: struggled to find hars for so long. Now they remember
Speaker 3: last year they flipped and flopped, they had Cogger, they
Speaker 3: had Hastings, they are Tyson game, were playing in the halves,
Speaker 3: and so I understand what they've gone then in this path.
Speaker 3: I mean, Fletcher Sharp looks really encouraging. At six you
Speaker 3: stick Dylan bound beside him. That takes a hell of
Speaker 3: a lot of heat off Kayln Ponger. And I think
Speaker 3: that's the other part is in the background buzz is
Speaker 3: Calen's Ponger's contract. He's off contract at the end of
Speaker 3: twenty seven. I think they need to show cal and
Speaker 3: their ambitious that they want to win a camp, that
Speaker 3: they're willing to take some chances to surround him with
Speaker 3: the right people.
Speaker 5: And I think this show's Klein.
Speaker 2: What they believe, Braith, is that they're a regular in
Speaker 2: the top eight. I think for the last five years
Speaker 2: what they wanted to do is advance the next stage
Speaker 2: of being a genuine content against the likes of Penrith, Melbourne,
Speaker 2: Manly and those cups. And they believe that's going to happen.
Speaker 2: But I still think I.
Speaker 1: Understand what they've done. I mean, they are rolling the dice.
Speaker 1: They're taking a huge gamble. You know, he's not a
Speaker 1: genuine seven, so they still need a seven. I don't
Speaker 1: think he's going to go there and control the team.
Speaker 1: He'll make Kaylyn's job a lot Easier's no doubt about that, and.
Speaker 4: Kaylen will be a better player for it. So I
Speaker 4: can understand that as well.
Speaker 1: And Kaylyn wants to win a premiership, so it shows
Speaker 1: that they are making moves to do so, so you know,
Speaker 1: but still what I can't get my head around is
Speaker 1: a ten year deal. The ten year deal, I just
Speaker 1: can't like, how do you guys see it?
Speaker 2: Well, he's twenty four, will be thirty four at the
Speaker 2: end of it, So look, I've got no doubt a
Speaker 2: half that.
Speaker 4: He's twenty four and he hasn't won a Premiership. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I haven't even gone close, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I do not think he's worth anywhere near
Speaker 2: that amount of money. And I think he was more.
Speaker 1: Than a ten could they like I look to drag him.
Speaker 4: That was the oars have said it's going to be
Speaker 4: a ten year deal.
Speaker 3: They needed to make him an offer that will get
Speaker 3: out of Paramatter, who's still had I think six years
Speaker 3: left from his deal. Of Paramatter, six years, I think
Speaker 3: it's around that five or six years, had some outclause.
Speaker 6: He was signed on twenty thirty one, but every second year,
Speaker 6: every second year, he had outclauses in his faith ten
Speaker 6: year their.
Speaker 2: Life've seen work as Cherry Evans at Manly. Look at
Speaker 2: Tamlala at the Cowboys. Now he's played out, you know,
Speaker 2: making the starting thirteen. He's always on the bench.
Speaker 6: Deal buzz, you're right. It started twenty eighteen. You think
Speaker 6: of tell Malolo's ten year deal and you think twenty fifteen,
Speaker 6: twenty seventeen when he and Morgan, Michael Morgan carried them
Speaker 6: to the Grand Final. But he's dealed in start or
Speaker 6: twenty eighteen and a million a year doesn't sound that
Speaker 6: much now, but you're right, it's such a risk.
Speaker 1: I'll even say this Daly chair Evans has been a
Speaker 1: sensational buy for Manly, right, but have.
Speaker 4: They won a comp? No? And is that what you
Speaker 4: cast year mate?
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they won't and by no means am
Speaker 1: I playing it down. He's been like incredible for the Eagles.
Speaker 1: It's not saying that, right, But what I am saying
Speaker 1: is Newcastle doing this because they want to win a cop?
Speaker 1: And is he the same level as DC No?
Speaker 2: I don't think he is nowhere near that. He's Look
Speaker 2: he played Test match rugby.
Speaker 4: With him there.
Speaker 2: Oh possibly, you know, I think they've got a pretty
Speaker 2: handy side. Now, yeah, you know that they're strong over
Speaker 2: the park. But we're not talking about Paramatta yet and
Speaker 2: the fact that you know the Paramatta cap Management under
Speaker 2: Market and or Jim Sarantins they're former chairman to have
Speaker 2: clauses and all these contracts and now he signed for
Speaker 2: eight years. He was a kid they signed in Harold
Speaker 2: Matthews as a fifteen year old from New Zealand's come
Speaker 2: right through the system big and they put stupid clauses
Speaker 2: in them. Thankfully their new chairman has now banned clauses.
Speaker 2: It will never ever happen again. It is true.
Speaker 3: If Mitch Moses comes to them in three years time
Speaker 3: and says I'm to leave them unless you meet an
Speaker 3: option next year, they're going to go see him.
Speaker 2: Mitch. You can't. He's just extend four years.
Speaker 6: Nathan clear suddenly becomes on the market. There's been some
Speaker 6: weird falling out. He says, I'll go to Paramatta.
Speaker 2: There has been so much uncertainty for four or five months.
Speaker 2: There has been so much anxiety around that football club
Speaker 2: and their fans from this guy who they looked after
Speaker 2: when he was in trouble two years ago, got stood
Speaker 2: down from the game cost them a finals position. I
Speaker 2: think that has finally woken them up. You signed players
Speaker 2: who want to commit long term, or you don't bother
Speaker 2: that's my word.
Speaker 4: Hobby Cock.
Speaker 5: It's such rubbish.
Speaker 3: They come out and beat your chest and say no
Speaker 3: more options please.
Speaker 5: If Nathan Cleary you're right there, don't think.
Speaker 3: Clearly comes to Paramatta tomorrow and says I'm going to
Speaker 3: sign a six let me finish, but we want to
Speaker 3: put an option in the last two years. You're going
Speaker 3: to tell me Paramatta. The chairman's going to turn around
Speaker 3: and say no.
Speaker 2: Nathan Lady, you being a goose. You are because you
Speaker 2: know why, because you know Nathan Cleary will never ever
Speaker 2: put his hand up to go to Paramount. You know
Speaker 2: he won't know.
Speaker 5: That's an example of a player.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, if a player of that ilk, if
Speaker 3: Caleb Ponger turns around to to Paramatta in three years
Speaker 3: time and says, love the company, you be going to
Speaker 3: put an.
Speaker 5: Option in my deal?
Speaker 3: Do you think param real realistically? If Peram turned around
Speaker 3: and said, no, one not sign he kaylin, I think,
Speaker 3: how do you think that would be exciting?
Speaker 4: I got the clauses West, it still does happen both.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 6: Was my stupid example, but Buzz just attack. I love it,
Speaker 6: but it's an extreme Obviously, Buzz.
Speaker 1: We've been criticized about this, about talking about these clauses
Speaker 1: on the show, but the day has come where it's
Speaker 1: pit them on the on the bum right, it has
Speaker 1: finally hit them.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean that that deal. You could argue that
Speaker 3: deal probably had too many options in it. I think
Speaker 3: as dancing had options here, there and everywhere, but throughout
Speaker 3: let's say you're never going to do an option again.
Speaker 5: It's just ridiculous. I mean, it's just not.
Speaker 2: I totally disagree. It's time they stamped themselves saying we
Speaker 2: want footballers at this club who are committed, no clause,
Speaker 2: there's no extra cash and rebuild.
Speaker 6: You look at the NRL website, they put all contracts
Speaker 6: on there, right, not the money but the length. You
Speaker 6: look at every club, just about all of them will
Speaker 6: you'll see CEO, club option, player option.
Speaker 2: Where are those clubs on the ladders.
Speaker 4: But the point is, but do it.
Speaker 2: To Melbourne Storm have options? But my point is that's
Speaker 2: the economy that's been created. That's the economy that's been created.
Speaker 6: Twelve or the seventeen clubs have options, then that's that's
Speaker 6: the good clubs.
Speaker 3: Dan they convinced the player to stay with without an option,
Speaker 3: the good clubs that play the players will stay there.
Speaker 3: So you can say Paramota shouldn't the option in right,
Speaker 3: But if it's a good club, a stable club, a
Speaker 3: club the blokes want to play out, they will stay
Speaker 3: regardless of the option. The problem in this case is
Speaker 3: the deal was so extra, so exorbitan he can't say no.
Speaker 2: But I to you, what's crazy about roster management and options?
Speaker 2: If they're known. Dylan Brown was going to walk out,
Speaker 2: young Blaze.
Speaker 4: I was thinking that, buzz.
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean that you can't manage
Speaker 2: a roster not knowing what the road ahead. You got it.
Speaker 4: That's the world we live.
Speaker 2: I don't think you, dord.
Speaker 1: I was the only thing in that today, Young Blaze
Speaker 1: to Lening, he goes to Penweth panthers. There's no way
Speaker 1: they're letting go of him. I knew that Dylan was
Speaker 1: going to walk out of you later. That hurts.
Speaker 2: Think Dylan knows Paramatta something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they're stuck.
Speaker 5: He owes himself more than you know what.
Speaker 1: Buz, if every one of us here got offered that deal,
Speaker 1: we're taking it like there's this no doubt we're taking it.
Speaker 4: It's not his fault, you know, we can't blame for it. Now.
Speaker 2: It makes me sad about loyal bus No, No, it
Speaker 2: does loyally step no loyalty stead You.
Speaker 6: Tell them where the Herald offers you double what you're
Speaker 6: what your best wage.
Speaker 2: News them it was mate. You are using You are
Speaker 2: using a really, really bad example. I have done at
Speaker 2: Newport this year for forty nine years, right, and I
Speaker 2: have had the odd offer, not many, but it's a good.
Speaker 4: For your mate, bust. But he's only joking, you know,
Speaker 4: take it easy.
Speaker 2: Last how many joints of you?
Speaker 4: Okay, we're the clause in one of my contracts. Sorry,
Speaker 4: we're for Paramount now.
Speaker 1: So Newcastle we know they've secured the services of Brown
Speaker 1: Paramount now left with a war chest, they've got some coin.
Speaker 4: Who do they go for? Is there anyone on the market,
Speaker 4: any idea from you?
Speaker 3: The obvious cause Locklan Galvin. He's got another year left
Speaker 3: from his deal at West Tigers, and Tigers are trying
Speaker 3: to avinds Lachland Galvin to stay long term. But he's
Speaker 3: the obvious one. He's a paramount of kid grew up
Speaker 3: supporting the club.
Speaker 4: They wouldn't let him go, would they.
Speaker 3: Well, in twelve months time they mightn't have a choice
Speaker 3: if they can't convince him to stay.
Speaker 5: He's only got next year left in his deal. Maybe
Speaker 5: Paramount Isaac moses interesting.
Speaker 6: Do they automatically try and replace Dylan Brown like for
Speaker 6: like or do they use that money for all?
Speaker 2: Not a fullback?
Speaker 4: They've got a good.
Speaker 2: Young they need it at number nine?
Speaker 6: Do they actually they've got a class half back? Obviously
Speaker 6: one in origin right there? Are clubs that don't even
Speaker 6: have one class halves player. Do they put their money somewhere?
Speaker 2: Also? Do they go for the five eight? I agree
Speaker 2: what Rudy said. I would be offering Galvin a Newcastle
Speaker 2: type contract. People like Phil Gold are on record are
Speaker 2: saying that guy will win premierships. He is a very
Speaker 2: very special player and I know he didn't show it
Speaker 2: necessarily against new cast of the other night. I think
Speaker 2: he's closer to a million dollar plus player than Dylan Brown.
Speaker 1: You got him ahead of Dylan Brown. I do, yes,
Speaker 1: potential younger as well.
Speaker 3: He said when you're first grade bus he's not worth
Speaker 3: more than Dylan Brown.
Speaker 5: Would you respect as the kid? It was a good
Speaker 5: year one year.
Speaker 4: This is the flow on effect here in the halves market.
Speaker 1: There is a there is a lack of high quality
Speaker 1: halves going around every every team's after one, you know,
Speaker 1: not every team, but the majority of those guys outside
Speaker 1: of the top four.
Speaker 4: To six looking for sevens and sixes.
Speaker 6: And we're not ever considering there's an expansion team coming
Speaker 6: and they're going to throw stupid money tax through, remember,
Speaker 6: and then you might have a second new franchise come
Speaker 6: not long after that. In earth and it's just going
Speaker 6: to make the market even skin and the other one.
Speaker 2: Just back to power. We talked about blows to you
Speaker 2: go to Penro that young Sanders Canberra terrific half going
Speaker 2: to be big time footballer. Would they've kept him? They
Speaker 2: knew this was that. That's where I said you got
Speaker 2: to get rid of options.
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, that was a great finish. I love
Speaker 4: the way.
Speaker 2: I thank you well. It was a ko.
Speaker 4: It was a blockbuster weekend.
Speaker 1: But it was three teams in particular that made Denmark putting.
Speaker 4: The rest of the competition.
Speaker 1: I notice these are the moments of the round thanks
Speaker 1: to forward.
Speaker 2: Laying and took lakes. Junder Reynolds halted up, it's away
Speaker 2: from long and steep, it's right across.
Speaker 6: Pots, money behind, married up such feed over rednols.
Speaker 2: Tom's there.
Speaker 4: What a play that was from Adam Reynolds.
Speaker 6: Would work hunt the Shiba Saki down Armors Young threw
Speaker 6: a foot out of ball from siber Sandi to Ben
Speaker 6: Hunts on his return to the Brontos. Why wouldn't you celebrates.
Speaker 2: With Jake dra Vovage Cherry Evans at the back, holl
Speaker 2: A co two steaming into a hole.
Speaker 6: Can't handle a man like that, Holo Kawatu.
Speaker 2: What a beat.
Speaker 1: And now down the short side again here goes up
Speaker 1: mainly mainly.
Speaker 4: They're unstoppable.
Speaker 6: It's a never let two points of profile.
Speaker 4: Hunster wither kept to the corner.
Speaker 2: Here cuts cost some of your coats, fix up some
Speaker 2: frequent fire points. Want I changed and put down in
Speaker 2: one person? So final a tam for the first time,
Speaker 2: Jos Hunster many away again. Take your pick, Harry Grant,
Speaker 2: Well he's a special to get about it. They might
Speaker 2: have fifty a half.
Speaker 1: Time well on a weekend of rugby league on Fox League,
Speaker 1: and it started with the Broncos demolution of the Roosters.
Speaker 1: A lot of people saw this coming and a few didn't,
Speaker 1: but I certainly need now. The Broncos were outstanding, you know,
Speaker 1: obviously Mage McGuire's head coach, new head coach.
Speaker 4: They looked fast, sleep fit, you name it.
Speaker 2: They had it.
Speaker 1: The Roosters, on the other hand, struggled big time. How
Speaker 1: did you see his damp?
Speaker 6: When this play happened, I thought, hello, we might be
Speaker 6: on here for a really good game. The Radley injury
Speaker 6: obviously ended, but let's be honest, it wouldn't have mattered it.
Speaker 6: It blew out probably more than it would have because
Speaker 6: there's so much inexperience here for the Roosters, that was
Speaker 6: one player they couldn't afford to lose.
Speaker 2: I gotta say, Brad, I was there for radio.
Speaker 6: It was a privilege to watch the Broncos play the
Speaker 6: way they did. That was peak twenty twenty three stuff.
Speaker 6: Now it's one game, but more goodness, it was an
Speaker 6: impressive performance to watch Pain Hass. Carrigan was great too,
Speaker 6: but to see what Hass did at the start of
Speaker 6: that game was breathtaking, buzzy.
Speaker 2: Well, as you know Brace, I've been quite critical of
Speaker 2: their off season preparation, but I did say on this
Speaker 2: show that I think they'll I used to Gray and
Speaker 2: m they'll fly fly the lips. They'll get off to
Speaker 2: a strong start because he obviously got them ready to play.
Speaker 2: The bit that concerns me is around state of origin time.
Speaker 2: They'll have Hass, I'll have Hunt, they'll have car.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they've played one game of footy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they've had a great well. No, I just
Speaker 2: want to defend my previous.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this game with no stags, no as Raman. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I know, Pain Harse was doing Ramadan and have been
Speaker 3: sickle week.
Speaker 2: I have not seen play better game of football and
Speaker 2: Body did the other nine. He destroyed that side. And
Speaker 2: I know we're going to get to the Roosters, but
Speaker 2: you know, they just they were overpowered. They were outclassed
Speaker 2: in every faster of the game. And the Broncos is
Speaker 2: I don't normally like blowouts. I don't I like edge
Speaker 2: of your seat footing. What I saw from the Broncos,
Speaker 2: Melbourne and man it was just magnificent footing.
Speaker 1: Really, we both agree that we thought Manage was the
Speaker 1: right man for the job, exactly what they needed for
Speaker 1: this squad at.
Speaker 4: This moment in time, and he's proven that.
Speaker 1: At the moment, it's only one game, but it was
Speaker 1: very impressive and you can't really see them fall off
Speaker 1: a perch.
Speaker 2: Not really.
Speaker 3: Both they played a different speed to the Roosters, a
Speaker 3: bit like Manly and Melbourne did. They are a different
Speaker 3: speed to every other team in this comp this weekend.
Speaker 3: They just looked fit, they look fast, they look physical,
Speaker 3: and Robbie talked in the press conference afterwards about the
Speaker 3: Rooster's physicality. Payinghass busted eleven tackles in that game. Like
Speaker 3: he was like a man against boys. So you know,
Speaker 3: and as I said, they've got stags man to come
Speaker 3: back into the team, they're going to get better.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hars was credible, There's no doubt about that. What
Speaker 1: I liked about the way even Madge played him, played
Speaker 1: him for thirty minutes, you know I used to. I mean,
Speaker 1: Kevy used to play for sixty straight, I think, and
Speaker 1: you can see that he's probably just said, mat, I'll
Speaker 1: give me your best thirty and we'll give you a
Speaker 1: breather and then come back in the second half.
Speaker 6: But then he just says to Carrigan, step it up.
Speaker 2: Yeah for that root in between. Let guys, I'm not
Speaker 2: in any way putting the Broncos down. I'm what I
Speaker 2: want to explain to you is and I think, well,
Speaker 2: we've got a graphic to back it up. I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: I look back at around one last year. Okay, now,
Speaker 2: paramatter and round one flogged the Bulldogs absolutely tailed them
Speaker 2: up right. The fore meant nothing there it is there
Speaker 2: twenty eight the way, see the four time champions Penrith.
Speaker 2: They could not score a point against Melbourne Storm.
Speaker 5: Storm a good team of course.
Speaker 2: What I'm just using his as an example, made I
Speaker 2: like Broncos too, and I think I'm going.
Speaker 1: To you're trying to change your opinions by this graphic shows.
Speaker 2: My graphic is the producer's graphic. But I did speak
Speaker 2: to display.
Speaker 4: What are you trying to prove here? I'm confused trying
Speaker 4: to prove.
Speaker 2: And if it's there for everyone to see, go by
Speaker 2: around one?
Speaker 4: Okay, so answer this? Then are they still not making
Speaker 4: the top eight?
Speaker 2: From what I saw on the weekend? They are going
Speaker 2: to make the top but there is a long way
Speaker 2: to go.
Speaker 4: Excellent, You've got to back yourself my stick solid buzz.
Speaker 2: Now, have you picked the top eight, but you get
Speaker 2: me to pick a top eight?
Speaker 4: Pick it apart and they don't even date from it
Speaker 4: on the weekend. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Anyway, let's go to the roosters. There's something that we
Speaker 1: can all agree on here, buzz. And really then they
Speaker 1: are struggling, right, And I got to say, even as
Speaker 1: an ex rooster and a Roosters fan, I saw this
Speaker 1: coming and I wasn't one bit surprised by it.
Speaker 5: We're surprised by the nature of it. They breath. I mean,
Speaker 5: I thought they'd struggle as well.
Speaker 2: It didn't shock.
Speaker 4: It didn't shock.
Speaker 5: Line away like this.
Speaker 3: Blot off the park, outclassed, and they had no they
Speaker 3: had nothing, no response.
Speaker 1: I've been horribly concerned au Sas and I'm thinking, what
Speaker 1: what are they doing?
Speaker 4: Are they making moves? Are they buying anyone else? And
Speaker 4: why they of all these players?
Speaker 1: And that's been in my own head, and then I've
Speaker 1: also had supporters who we obviously in the area, are
Speaker 1: saying the same, this is no shock to me.
Speaker 4: I don't you know.
Speaker 6: What didn't help Braith was to real May starring the
Speaker 6: next day the day after that. That that really rolled
Speaker 6: the Roosters fans.
Speaker 4: Does anyone know what happened there with with those two players?
Speaker 4: And while they let them go.
Speaker 2: They still tell me that May wasn't quite the leader
Speaker 2: to bring these young boys through from the academy, and
Speaker 2: they were looking for someone else for that sort of job.
Speaker 2: I believe they wanted to free up some salary cap
Speaker 2: space also to have a whack at Ben Hunt, so
Speaker 2: they let May go. And you know what, at the
Speaker 2: end of the day, they did the right thing by May.
Speaker 2: They gave him plenty of time. He was able to
Speaker 2: go and get more money at the West Tigers so
Speaker 2: tell you look, the Rooster's made decision in twenty twenty,
Speaker 2: they toured FC Barcelona, they looked at the academy, an
Speaker 2: academy that produced messy. They went and bought a block
Speaker 2: at units at Kingsland. They signed the best twenty juniors
Speaker 2: they could find, put them up there and wanted like
Speaker 2: Gus did at Penrith, like us as doing at Canterbury.
Speaker 2: And the plan was, rather than just be a check
Speaker 2: book club, to bring these kids gradually through. The mistake
Speaker 2: they've made is that Hargreaves is no longer there.
Speaker 1: Leaders the leaders, they don't have any leaders really, they
Speaker 1: got a couple, but they don't have as many as
Speaker 1: they would like. To bring these young guys through and
Speaker 1: to sort of show them direct to you know, guide
Speaker 1: them in that transition into first grade, which is a
Speaker 1: huge step.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and consistently playing at a high level.
Speaker 3: You know, a different ball game, and Dan mentioned Bradley
Speaker 3: obviously went off earlier in that game. It wouldn't have
Speaker 3: made a difference, right, they still would have been beaten.
Speaker 3: But you talk about lots of leaders, I mean, he
Speaker 3: is a leader for that football club, right so till
Speaker 3: he's an interesting one.
Speaker 5: I thought it's Cintil.
Speaker 3: He left after the day for Feeder Saga. From memory
Speaker 3: of that, tried to sign Dave and I think Stilly
Speaker 3: he wasn't happy, but I'm not sure he was ably
Speaker 3: happy that went tried to sign Dave for feed Dave
Speaker 3: didn't come in the end and obviously until he went
Speaker 3: the process, so you know, some of those decisions have
Speaker 3: probably heard him a bit as well.
Speaker 5: The recruitment over the.
Speaker 3: Last a couple of years hasn't been as you would
Speaker 3: expect of the Roosters. You know, the Brandon Smith experiment
Speaker 3: hasn't really worked. As I said Dave Rinig Donald. They
Speaker 3: didn't get Ben Hunt, they missed some guys, but you
Speaker 3: don't normally expect from the Roosters and all that sort
Speaker 3: of come back to bite them.
Speaker 1: I reckon, Buzz, you mentioned something I believe in. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you've written this, but w h they're
Speaker 1: trying to get him back asap from whole KR Well,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure it's that strong yet.
Speaker 2: They have money available because they're hoping to have Jerry
Speaker 2: Marnho back for the second year second half of the season,
Speaker 2: but he's now gone to French Rugby. They got five
Speaker 2: or six hundred k. Now jard Wa Hargres is playing
Speaker 2: for whole KR in England. They've won four out of four.
Speaker 2: He's going gangbusters. Their directors and their recruitment people have
Speaker 2: discussed putting out a call to Jared to see if
Speaker 2: he would be willing to come back, even if it's
Speaker 2: for fourteen fifteen games. They want his presence, they want
Speaker 2: his authority in the dressing sheds. They want him to
Speaker 2: bring through this next line of exciting young kids. And look,
Speaker 2: I think it's a slight possibility.
Speaker 6: What was his exit like he's a legend of the roosters, right.
Speaker 2: Yes, you saw the exit and the celebration.
Speaker 6: What I'm saying did they move him on or did
Speaker 6: he decide?
Speaker 2: I think they came to a mutual agreement, you know right,
Speaker 2: I've got to say they need himse they got bashed
Speaker 2: the other night, intimidated, bashed, overpowered, and he would help
Speaker 2: on that front.
Speaker 5: They need a block clock in.
Speaker 4: So you guys think j w H comes back, that's
Speaker 4: the end.
Speaker 5: I don't think he comes back.
Speaker 4: But if he does come.
Speaker 2: Back, I don't think it's the answer breaks, but I
Speaker 2: think he will help. You will help and with him
Speaker 2: on the football field, inspiring those other kids. Just his presence.
Speaker 2: I can't see Payne, hears and Carrigan bullying in the
Speaker 2: manner in which they did last.
Speaker 1: I hear he's very happy over there and theref one
Speaker 1: four from four coming first whole chance to win the
Speaker 1: Super Blue Premiership.
Speaker 5: If your whole kr waters all Engay will not let
Speaker 5: him go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know you can buy a contract out
Speaker 2: or them investigating.
Speaker 4: You know, but what about their hals?
Speaker 1: Chad, Townsend, Sant and Smith A lot speculate a lot
Speaker 1: of speculation about this combination heading into the season.
Speaker 4: Only one round, one game in. What are we thinking?
Speaker 3: Oh, I think they're in trouble and I think based
Speaker 3: on the evidence we saw the other night didn't help them.
Speaker 3: Didn't help their forward pack got smashed. But you know,
Speaker 3: Chad they boughting for experience.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think their halves and sending unconvincing At the moment.
Speaker 3: I feel a bit sorry for him because you know
Speaker 3: it's hard to play behind a pack when it's getting
Speaker 3: battered like they did. So you know, I'm not sure
Speaker 3: they need help.
Speaker 2: In the Lewis and Andrew John. Yeah, they couldn't have
Speaker 2: performed the other night, the way they got steam rolled
Speaker 2: in the middle of the field. What worries about so,
Speaker 2: I don't know if we've got their draw available.
Speaker 4: It's hard.
Speaker 2: But then they've got to play Penrith twice in the
Speaker 2: first they've got the Broncos away. I think it's going
Speaker 2: to get uglier and ugly and ugly. And it's the year.
Speaker 4: That they played Brisbane again as well too.
Speaker 1: It's on the screen here. Yeah, you've got the bunnies
Speaker 1: in there. You've got a few tough games. Yeah, they've
Speaker 1: got dragons, I think.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Can I make the finals?
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 5: No chance. Based on what we saw the other night.
Speaker 4: Buckley's I thought they could.
Speaker 6: I think there are a chance of going down to
Speaker 6: twenty sixteen path based on that, and that's where they
Speaker 6: were way down the road.
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