1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: This is the Fitty and Whipper with Kate Richie podcast. 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 2: When you get off at an extraordinary actress and a 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 2: magnificent human being like Rachel Grivis, you know you know 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 2: what you do. You think the powers above that you're 5 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: so blessed to be in this job. 6 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 3: She's in a break right. 7 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 4: I'm I'm like, are you a keyway? That is like 8 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 4: you know with KeyWe's You're like, you are you taking 9 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 4: the pieces? 10 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 3: I can't tell. 11 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 4: It sounds really nice, but I can't quite read. 12 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 3: I soak it up. That's from my heart. 13 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 4: Well that was very beautiful. 14 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 2: There's It is a brand new series, Madam. It premiere 15 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 2: is tonight nine pm on Channel Night. He's a little 16 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 2: bit of a taste for you. 17 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 4: Welcome to Sweethearts. How can you service here? 18 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: I'm opening a brothoft without massago violence. 19 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 4: An ethical brothel, both. 20 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: Business from my women for women at my brothel your control. 21 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 4: Do you see what you do and when you do it? 22 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: I'm taking the sucks work out of the shadows? 23 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 4: Wow? 24 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 5: Right? 25 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 4: Why spicy time? 26 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 3: Hey, Rachel. 27 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:05,559 Speaker 6: I'm so pumped for this nine pm tonight on Channel nine. 28 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 6: It is based on a true story that is like 29 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 6: manner from heaven just so we. 30 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 4: Don't get suited. 31 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: It is inspired by some true events, but the episode 32 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 1: in which a speaker gets lost in a man's trailer, 33 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: you know, we take love. 34 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 4: We were in TV. We make stuff. 35 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: Up, But the DNA of the show is true that 36 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: this very educated, very left wing, kind of woke, middle 37 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: class American woman falls in love with a KeyWe they're 38 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: going to sail around the world, have this big, adventurous life. 39 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: They realize their son has really quite profound physical. 40 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 4: Challenges and disability. 41 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: They realize that America is probably not going to be 42 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: very supportive for that, so they end up in rural 43 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: New Zealand on after inheriting his parents' farm, and she's 44 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: she's just not you know, cause he lives. 45 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 4: I know, we all talk about he lives. But if 46 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 4: you've got to keep with a disability, I mean, I 47 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 4: don't know. 48 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: I've got quite a few family friends that you know, 49 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: they're in that situation. No one is driving a car 50 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: that is lesson like fifteen years old. 51 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 4: It's really hard. 52 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: So she's had a few hustles and none of them 53 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: have worked, and she stumbles onto this idea that sex 54 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: work is legal and decriminalized in New Zealand, and she's 55 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 1: going to do it better. 56 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 4: She's going to do it ethically, She's going to. 57 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 6: Do it smart. 58 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 4: Brothel a little bit of a woke brothel. 59 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 5: Do you know I've never been to a brothel? 60 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: How many many men have said that to me on 61 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: my radio tour in the last two days, and it's 62 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: all that. It's no woman has ever said, none of 63 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: the girls I've been and they're like, I've never been 64 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,119 Speaker 1: to a brothel. But I think you're my third man 65 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: to declare. 66 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 4: Radio. And I think the lady does protest your. 67 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 5: I've never ever never stepped inside. 68 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 4: I think now is a good time for Jess to 69 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 4: bring in the light a. 70 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: Tech don't do that? 71 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 5: The only one. 72 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 3: How does one. 73 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 5: Find out who you're paired with if you go into 74 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 5: an establishment? 75 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 3: What does it? 76 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,839 Speaker 5: Is a thing showcased or is it like. 77 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, that is one of the things when when 78 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: she kind of looks at how this business can operate 79 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: better for the women who work, and you know, it 80 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: is things like when do I work? 81 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 4: How long do I work? Because many women in this. 82 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: Industry are either suporting themselves or their own family, and 83 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: they're just they're just making Actually, like, I did not 84 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: realize how much I would have in common with the 85 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: thinking of women who are work in this industry, because 86 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: every time I'm offered a job, I just says, oh, 87 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: you got an offer. 88 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 4: I'm like, how much? No, I go? How far? 89 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 3: How far? 90 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 4: How long? How much? How far away from home is it? 91 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: Because most of the time I'm going to leave my 92 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: family to make money. How long will I be away 93 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: from them? And how much is it to be worth 94 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: all of that, you know, to replace myself when I'm gone. 95 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: I think any working mum kind of understands is you 96 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: can be sent up the corporate ladder. But it's like, Okay, 97 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: I get exment money, but I'm going to be away 98 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: three days a week and I'm going to be traveling, 99 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: and I'm not going to be there for you know, 100 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: my kids vulnerable points. So we're all making this kind 101 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 1: of decision. So that's probably the number one thing in 102 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: the business is the women who work their set their days, 103 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 1: their times. They're not sitting around waiting for drop in. 104 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: They build up their client through you know, I've got 105 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: a digitalized thing. And the other thing is if you 106 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: look through the thing and you just do not like 107 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: the you know, Nazi symbol leitched into the guy's head. 108 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 6: That's the first change I would make if I was 109 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 6: a madam. First of all, I'd get very good, like 110 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 6: twelve hundred thread count Egyptian beautiful sheets. Who doesn't love that? 111 00:04:53,040 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 4: But second, I'm a peracole girl myself. It's kale Brian. 112 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 4: I'm so FlexIt. 113 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 6: I would flip that power because I don't know too 114 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 6: much about brothels, but I know, have you never been 115 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 6: to a brothel? There's an there's an open day, the 116 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 6: very famous one. There's anet Where's is the one that's 117 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 6: really next to slightly overlaps a yoga studio? 118 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: So if anyone's tracking, you know Habby on Life three sixty, 119 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, it's really into yoga lately. I mean 120 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: it's become a thing like the gym is right next 121 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: to the brothel, and if the kind of brothel goes 122 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: up and over. When you look on your Life through sixty, 123 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: where's Hobby? He looks like he is pumping iron and 124 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: not pumping flash. 125 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 2: It yet? 126 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 4: Have you been to the gym lately? 127 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 3: Have you been to hot yoga? 128 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 2: I'm very flexible at the moment, yes, you could say 129 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 2: that is good, Ryan Jones. 130 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 3: There is an old stigma around when you hear the 131 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 3: word brothel. 132 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 2: There's a lot of old people in the older generation 133 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 2: immediately think of the sleazy side of things. 134 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 3: But did you did you get to go into a 135 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 3: couple of years Okay, this is am. 136 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: The only brothel I've been into was my tour of Pompeii, 137 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: where my private tour guide. Because I think about the 138 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: Roman Empire a lot side sing, I actually think about 139 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: it once a day. 140 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 4: That's actually a true story. 141 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: But in Pompeii there are these penises with wings hubbed 142 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: into the flagstones that point your way to the brothel, 143 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: and the different the different penises have different wings for 144 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: the different brothels, and we were chasing penises all over 145 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: Pompeii to get to the House of I think it's 146 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: called a House. 147 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 4: Of Gold or something. I mean, that's the next it's 148 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 4: the next. 149 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 6: If that's not the next red Bull campaign, I don't 150 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 6: know what is what. 151 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 5: I had a friend, Chrissy, who went on a trip 152 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 5: overseas a lovely family vacation, and he said, when I 153 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 5: saw this, I thought of you, and he gave me 154 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 5: a stone penis with wings. 155 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 4: That was in Naples, right, I didn't realize it was 156 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 4: such a thing. 157 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 3: Flying You can buy member. 158 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: You can buy in the gift store the ear rings, 159 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: the winged penis ear rings, and my friend bought some. 160 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 4: I'm like, where are you going to wear them everywhere? 161 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 3: She's like, is that the equivalent of a red light? 162 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 3: Over there? 163 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 5: Is it? 164 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 3: That's the equivalent of a red light? Is the penis 165 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 3: with wings? 166 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 4: Well? 167 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it's the universal language because you know, 168 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: the Roman Empire was a melting pot. 169 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 4: You had them from Carthage. 170 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: Phoenicians are probably separated by two thousand years of classical civilization. 171 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: But people were coming from everywhere, and the panis and 172 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: the wings was a universal symbol for you know, your 173 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: good time. 174 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 5: Well, FITZI went to you in Amsterdam? 175 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 3: Weren't you fits? 176 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 6: And you? 177 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 2: The story was my wife and I went for dinner 178 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 2: in Amsterdam and as we were walking out, there was 179 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: a huge there was a massive line and you couldn't 180 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 2: get past this. 181 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 3: It was like a bridge that led onto this huge 182 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 3: event center and I'm thinking, what's going on here? 183 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 4: My Christmas windows. 184 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: They were all lining up for a sex show and 185 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 2: it was it was backpackers and tourists and stuff like that. 186 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,839 Speaker 2: But as we were walking through, we couldn't get through 187 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 2: properly and so we had to stop and there was 188 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 2: a group of Australians there that recognized me and they 189 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 2: looked over and thought that I was lining up with 190 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 2: my wife to go and see a sex show. 191 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, he just record case you saw him that day. 192 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: He was not lining up in Amsterdam to see a 193 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: sex show. That did not happen, and it was it 194 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: was really humiliating that any Australia who saw him lined 195 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: up how bad thing through would think that that is. 196 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 4: The man he is. 197 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 5: You're still clear, but it's okay. No one thinks you 198 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 5: are lining up. 199 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 4: Oh everyone's online detectors today. 200 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 2: You are a national treasure. Rh We absolutely adore you 201 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 2: and Madam. Premier is tonight nine pm on Channel nine. 202 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Thank you so much, You. 203 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 4: Go into the best sending Kate, love love you. 204 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 5: Kate, very kind, awesome to see you. Can't wait for 205 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 5: tonight nine o'clock. As you said, if it's