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Speaker 1: Welcome to Hotter than Yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for coming on, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: We're in Sydney at the moment, and I think you

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Speaker 3: guys may know Sarah.

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Speaker 1: Of course you know Sarah. She was from Maths.

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Speaker 2: I look a little different now.

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Speaker 1: You do.

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Speaker 3: I was doing a bit of research this morning and

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Speaker 3: I was like, you literally have like blonde bomb.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like blonde Bob.

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Speaker 4: I was a little bit like heavier as well, like

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Speaker 4: just completely different.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: And what year was Maths?

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Speaker 2: It was two years ago?

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Speaker 3: Now? Wow?

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Speaker 1: Does it feel like ages ago?

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Speaker 2: Ages?

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Speaker 4: Like I feel like I wasn't even on it, like

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Speaker 4: it was like a lifetime ago.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, so you were I watched the season of Masks.

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Speaker 4: I'm the lover of Masks, Like I still watch it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course.

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Speaker 3: It's just like there's so much tea, there's so much

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Speaker 3: on everything. But I feel like it's such a highly

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Speaker 3: produced show.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely compared to like other reality TV's like Love

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Speaker 4: Island and stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because like you always know that the cameras around,

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Speaker 3: like all those cameras in your face, yeah right where

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Speaker 3: I was like in like Love Island, they're like everywhere.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, It's like I guess like when you kind of

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Speaker 4: look at maths. If we're not actually speaking the words

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Speaker 4: most of the time, is probably not us, Like, it's

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Speaker 4: probably just something something that we said like at one point,

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Speaker 4: but they clip it into another part to make it

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Speaker 4: the narrative.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so because you lived in those apartments for

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Speaker 3: seven days straight, were you recording every day?

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Speaker 2: No Monday to Friday.

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Speaker 4: So we had Saturday Sundays off, but we had curfew

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Speaker 4: every day. So Monday to Friday was nine pm curfew.

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Speaker 4: So if we were to finish like filming out like

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Speaker 4: seven we'd have like a couple hours or whatever, but

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Speaker 4: we get like miked up first thing in the morning,

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Speaker 4: and we're pretty much miked up for the whole day.

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Speaker 4: We'll get like a lunch break and like little breaks

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Speaker 4: in between, but pretty much filming the whole day. It's

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Speaker 4: like ten hour days. And then Saturday Sunday we had

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Speaker 4: them off. But we had like a producer that lived

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Speaker 4: on the floor and basically anything that we did had

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Speaker 4: to go through him.

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Speaker 2: And also to.

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Speaker 1: Tell you, like I want to go to the cafe, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you'd have to tell him.

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Speaker 4: You couldn't just leave because sometimes like more than one

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Speaker 4: person would want to leave at the same time, and

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Speaker 4: then they'd be like, well, we know you're going to

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Speaker 4: meet up, so like we won't let this many people

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Speaker 4: out at the same time.

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Speaker 1: But were you allowed to go to each other's room?

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Speaker 4: No, we weren't allowed to hang out outside of like

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Speaker 4: cameras in front of us technically, like we weren't, but

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Speaker 4: we did, like some people did, Like Lauren and I hung.

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Speaker 2: Out all the time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Like but like a lot of times, like

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Speaker 4: they would catch on to it and they wouldn't let

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Speaker 4: you leave. Like at one point they were like, you're

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Speaker 4: not leaving because we know Lauren's and I was like

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Speaker 4: I'm leaving, Like I.

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Speaker 2: Literally was like, you can't not make me leave, Like.

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Speaker 3: It's like your full like Sims character, it's so bizarre.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was the weirdest time of my life. Like genuinely,

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Speaker 4: when I think about it now, I'm like, that was

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Speaker 1: And how long is recording you to go for six weeks?

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Speaker 4: It's three months? Yeah, oh shit, three months.

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Speaker 3: So we're out of work for three months. You're out

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Speaker 3: of doing everything the three months.

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Speaker 4: Everything, and it's just like you're in this like maths

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Speaker 4: bubble where it's all you think about all you talk about.

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Speaker 4: So when people are like, oh my god, is it real,

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Speaker 4: Like is the Joba real, I'm like yes, because it's literally.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no wonder everyone goes batshit crazy and it literally

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Speaker 3: does bring out like probably the worst side and more

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Speaker 3: patience by the end.

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Speaker 4: No, absolutely, And also you're just like emotionally manipulated by producers,

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Speaker 4: so like at the end of it, you're like, oh,

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Speaker 4: is that like was what they said? Like does that

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Speaker 4: mean something? And then you start thinking overthinking things. You go,

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Speaker 4: something's gonna happen at this dinner party, and then you

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Speaker 4: get there and everything's all heightened and it's just like

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Speaker 4: they know, yeah, it was awful.

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Speaker 3: And how is your mental health after it? Then when

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Speaker 3: you returned back to like a normal life bad Like

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 4: It was pretty much like at its peak when I

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Speaker 4: first came off the show. Yeah, to be honest, like,

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Speaker 4: I think when you're like not used to it, Like

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Speaker 4: I think you've been in the scene for a while,

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Speaker 4: so you get you know, you're used to the hate,

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Speaker 4: and like at first it probably sucks, but now you're

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Speaker 4: probably just like conditioned. Right, Yeah, at first I was like,

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Speaker 4: oh my god, this is so terrible, Like these people

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Speaker 4: are saying the most horrible things to me, Like I

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Speaker 4: was getting death threats, Like yeah, the first one I

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Speaker 4: remember getting was like this guy being like, if I

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Speaker 4: ever see you on the streets, I'm going to bash your.

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Speaker 2: Skull in And I was like.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, like I'm terraking.

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Speaker 3: Older people who watch like TV on like Channel nine,

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Speaker 3: they are more brutal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Facebook pages and.

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Speaker 4: Forms like everything, and they're like they get so invested

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Speaker 4: into it because it's like a marriage, So.

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Speaker 2: They go, this is a marriage. Anything that you do

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Speaker 2: is so wrong.

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Speaker 4: And everyone lives in their glasshouses and you're like everyone

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Speaker 4: said third pretending like they're so perfect. Like what you're

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Speaker 4: seeing is like just the heightened version of probably reality.

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Speaker 4: But like that's not how it pans out usually, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So how long before when you wrapped up filming?

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Speaker 2: Did it?

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Speaker 1: Then you can the public saw it.

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Speaker 4: So we wrapped up in October and then it doesn't

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Speaker 4: play till February, right, Yeah, so a few months where

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Speaker 4: you have to kind of like lay low and not

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Speaker 4: really tell anyone anything, and then you watch it at

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Speaker 4: the same time as everybody else.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I couldn't do that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember watching it, like being like I didn't

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Speaker 4: say that, yeah, and you just want to go and

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Speaker 4: or like you want to go on your Instagram, I'd

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Speaker 4: be like, just clearly clear care because you're locked down it.

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Speaker 1: So I think that's why we've pulled you.

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Speaker 3: I've put pulled you on today because I was a

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Speaker 3: lover of Maths, and I think by in the little

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Speaker 3: bit you were kind of a bit of a villain

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Speaker 3: in the nicest way possible.

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Speaker 2: I know if I were to Maths.

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Speaker 3: I would be a villain too, Like, I think you're

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Speaker 3: such a big personality, You're such a kind, outgoing person

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Speaker 3: that then it's easy to manipulate you because you say

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Speaker 2: And I talk a lot. Yeah, exactly. They have a

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Speaker 2: lot of footage.

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Speaker 3: So it's like you're easy to mix up and jump.

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Speaker 3: And you were married to Tim Y Tim, And there

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Speaker 3: was a bit of drama that went on in the in.

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Speaker 1: The series's a lot of drama.

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Speaker 3: There was a bit of drama that went on in

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Speaker 3: the show at a point where you met up with

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Speaker 3: your ex. A lot of drama in the drama, and

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Speaker 3: everyone was like, you're the worst person in the world.

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Speaker 1: You're a cheetah, disgusting which is not fair at all,

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Speaker 1: and we do not condone that behavior.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 3: But then a couple of months ago, yeah, we're just now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you came out on your TikTok and you're like,

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Speaker 3: I'm done.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm done protecting him, Like I think for the

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Speaker 4: longest time I was.

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Speaker 2: I protected him because I thought we were going to

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Speaker 4: And initially, yeah, like I sat in front of the

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Speaker 4: show and I lied to everyone because I was dealing

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Speaker 2: Ex in the background.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know how to deal with it because it

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Speaker 4: was obviously super unexpected that he came back into my

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Speaker 4: life at a really shitty time, as they do.

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Speaker 2: Times.

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Speaker 4: He knew that I was going on a show, found

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Speaker 4: out and decided to text me and come back into

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Speaker 4: really kind of tried with timor like I did, really

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Speaker 3: Percent, you know, one hundred percent, And when you have

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Speaker 3: someone like always like breadcrumbing you, it's so so hot.

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Speaker 3: And you then went on a whole show in front

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Speaker 3: of the whole nation, yea worldwide actually, because everyone loves

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Speaker 3: it worldwide to protect this man. And then two years

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Speaker 3: after you've just capted slack up to slack up to

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Speaker 3: slack so this man that you thought that was going

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Speaker 3: to be your partner and you then had enough one day, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I just had enough. I was like, well I knew

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Speaker 4: Basically I came out with it because I got the

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Speaker 4: hay girly text or message DM.

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Speaker 3: So maybe for no one who's seen the tiktoks, because

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Speaker 3: I know all of them, I've watched them, give a

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Speaker 3: little bit of context to people that might not have

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Speaker 4: Okay, So basically, a few months ago, I got a

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Speaker 4: message from a girl on Instagram and she was like,

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Speaker 4: she had been following along my tiktoks and I had

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Speaker 4: been posting a few like breakup stuff like really sad,

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Speaker 3: Harsh, like voice memo in the background, like the songs

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Speaker 2: Yeahah yeah exactly, so I think.

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Speaker 4: And she kind of had an inkling because like Perth

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Speaker 4: is quite small excess from Perth, and she had asked

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Speaker 4: around about this guy that she started dating, and everyone

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Speaker 4: was like, oh have you never heard, like he had

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Speaker 4: an affair with the girl from maths because he was

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Speaker 4: dating a girl in Perth for like four years, and

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Speaker 4: the whole story was like that he had an affair,

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Speaker 4: Like I wouldn't necessarily call it an affair, but we

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Speaker 4: were on and off for ten.

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Speaker 2: Years, like it was it was a law.

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Speaker 4: Like there was times where he was with her that

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Speaker 4: I don't know if like he was telling me like

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Speaker 4: the wrong thing and like we would you know, reminisce

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Speaker 4: and hook up or kiss or whatever it may be. Anyways,

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Speaker 4: she confronted him and was like, are you seeing this girl?

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Speaker 4: Did this actually happen? Of course, he denied, and I

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Speaker 4: denied and she just kept tabs. She was like, Okay,

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Speaker 4: he's denying it, but I'm not really sure. Then one

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Speaker 4: like looked through his phone and she saw my dog,

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Speaker 4: Like he accidentally pulled up his pictures and one of

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Speaker 4: So then he shows up. We spend that whole week

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Speaker 4: Anyways, fast forward to when I'm talking to this girl

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Speaker 4: And he was like, you will, you will, you will,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you got back together after maths.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you were again on and off for

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Speaker 3: two years after maths. H and was the girl that

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Speaker 1: Was he over with that girl?

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Speaker 4: Back together?

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Speaker 4: He had broken so that time that me and him

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Speaker 2: And I was like, well, I'm not doing anything until

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Speaker 4: and I was like, well, I'm on this show. Like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I didn't leave.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you would have been under Like I think

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Speaker 1: Years, and he would tell you what you wanted to hear.

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Speaker 3: He would give you false sense of hope, but he

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Speaker 2: He knew I was wrapped around his finger, like he knew.

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Speaker 4: Because I was so young and impressionable like he was,

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Speaker 4: I feel like and he got his friends to do

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Speaker 4: his dirty work for him too, So every time he

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Speaker 4: come to this bar and he'd be there, and so

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Speaker 4: Like, yes, I was the other girl technically while he

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Speaker 2: I was the girl.

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Speaker 1: He was living a double lie. He was living in

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Speaker 4: And it was easy for him because he traveled with work,

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Speaker 3: So you gotta And so then the hay girlie message

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Speaker 4: Hey, babe, I've been following your tiktoks and I just

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Speaker 4: she was like I need to call you. And at

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Speaker 3: And it was of course when all this was like yeah,

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Speaker 4: Out myself out there, and then I ran into him

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Speaker 4: and it just yeah, it was all a big thing.

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Speaker 4: We spent an hour on the phone exchanging text messages.

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Speaker 1: Really, so you were on the date when you got

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I was like I can't, Like I was

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

448
00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,119
Speaker 4: I was like I need to go home if Anyways,

449
00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,240
Speaker 4: when I when I actually got home, we got on

450
00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,880
Speaker 4: the phone. We're on the phone for an hour exchanging

451
00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:36,679
Speaker 4: text messages, exchanging everything, text book narcissistic shit like the Bubba's,

452
00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:40,879
Speaker 4: the honeys, the pop the I love yous, the like

453
00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,920
Speaker 4: just constant twenty four or seven texts the same pictures

454
00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,919
Speaker 4: he was sending her he was sending me like it

455
00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,200
Speaker 4: was disgusting. It was actually like like I was shivering,

456
00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,359
Speaker 4: Like I was like, I cannot believe that this is

457
00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:54,520
Speaker 4: happening to me right now.

458
00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:56,080
Speaker 2: And of course, because we were.

459
00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:00,600
Speaker 4: So on and off, like he could easily be like together. Yeah, yeah,

460
00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,840
Speaker 4: so it was hard for me because I was like, technically, yeah,

461
00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:04,719
Speaker 4: but you were still saying you wanted to be with

462
00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:05,840
Speaker 4: me in March.

463
00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:07,879
Speaker 2: You were saying that, but you were with her since

464
00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:08,879
Speaker 2: in October.

465
00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:09,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

466
00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,520
Speaker 3: Like, it's also the feed dripping that's really really hard.

467
00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:13,800
Speaker 1: It's like they give you a.

468
00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,000
Speaker 3: Little bit and you don't know when you're gonna get

469
00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,680
Speaker 3: it next, and then you hold onto that. Yeah, I've

470
00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,560
Speaker 3: never dated a narcissist, but I like my situationships after that,

471
00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,840
Speaker 3: Like they feed drip you and it makes that's what

472
00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:25,560
Speaker 3: makes you hold on.

473
00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:26,800
Speaker 1: And then they know.

474
00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,160
Speaker 3: By giving you that little bit, you can never properly

475
00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:30,880
Speaker 3: move on because you're holding out on that.

476
00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:32,960
Speaker 1: Hope that that little bit that they gave you will

477
00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:33,560
Speaker 1: turn into.

478
00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,399
Speaker 4: Totally well, they do that, like I feel like and

479
00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,600
Speaker 4: the highs and the lows are so addicting, you know,

480
00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:39,680
Speaker 4: like that's what I love.

481
00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:40,880
Speaker 1: Is an addiction. It is.

482
00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, he would sit there and this man would cry

483
00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,639
Speaker 4: in front of me, You're so amazing, You're so beautiful.

484
00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,800
Speaker 4: I don't deserve you, Like how does a girl like

485
00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,600
Speaker 4: you date a guy like me? Like all this crazy shit?

486
00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:59,720
Speaker 4: And then would be cooking pasta with this girl while

487
00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,480
Speaker 4: we were full texting, and then you'd be like, sorry,

488
00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,199
Speaker 4: I'm just helping mom, like like clean up like the

489
00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,919
Speaker 4: kitchen or but and like you know, I'm not going

490
00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,320
Speaker 4: to go into like stuff with his family and stuff.

491
00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,960
Speaker 4: But there was stuff going on, and he would use

492
00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,440
Speaker 4: that all the time whenever we fought, and it would

493
00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,320
Speaker 4: get to the point where it was like I couldn't

494
00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,600
Speaker 4: get angry at him because he would use that, And

495
00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,359
Speaker 4: then I have to feel sorry if you feel like

496
00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:25,400
Speaker 4: the bad person mentioning anything. It was so manipulative, so controlling,

497
00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,760
Speaker 4: so toxic. But I loved him like I did, and

498
00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:30,159
Speaker 4: it was so hard to get out of it. But

499
00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,400
Speaker 4: I'm so glad that girl messaged me, because I don't

500
00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,760
Speaker 4: think I would have ever stopped the cycle.

501
00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,240
Speaker 1: And after that, you were like that enough is enough.

502
00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:39,480
Speaker 1: I can't go on anymore.

503
00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,520
Speaker 4: I couldn't and even though sometimes I'll be honest, like

504
00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:46,120
Speaker 4: sometimes I still like miss him, like it's so fucked up,

505
00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,560
Speaker 4: Like I can sit here and be completely honest with you,

506
00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,200
Speaker 4: and I think that a lot of people in narcissistic

507
00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,160
Speaker 4: relationships can resonate. Yeah, it's not just as easy as

508
00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,359
Speaker 4: like it's over, like I miss him, I miss the

509
00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,399
Speaker 4: good parts because when it was good, it was so

510
00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,080
Speaker 4: fucking good, it was amazing.

511
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,520
Speaker 3: It's like the years of your life as well. This

512
00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,560
Speaker 3: is like this has expanded over ten years, like your

513
00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,399
Speaker 3: whole adult life pretty much like that's all you know

514
00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,199
Speaker 3: in your twenties, this is all you know.

515
00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,760
Speaker 1: Like breaking that cycle is so so hard.

516
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,320
Speaker 3: And if I would have done the exact same thing

517
00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,800
Speaker 3: of you, It's like once you posted it online, you're

518
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,959
Speaker 3: almost holding yourself accountable to not fall back because you

519
00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,760
Speaker 3: had you. Every time he messaged you or something you

520
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,560
Speaker 3: was giving back. I was there, and I know you

521
00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,840
Speaker 3: would have probably told yourself that every single time I ended,

522
00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,880
Speaker 3: You're like, none, this is done again, this.

523
00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:34,480
Speaker 2: Is done for good.

524
00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:35,879
Speaker 3: Come no.

525
00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,399
Speaker 4: I lost like my best friend over it because I

526
00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:39,600
Speaker 4: kept being like I'm no, I'm not, and then I

527
00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:40,880
Speaker 4: wouldn't be like.

528
00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,000
Speaker 2: You're so stupid, and I'm like, I know, do you

529
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,480
Speaker 2: not think that I know? Do I want to be here? No?

530
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,239
Speaker 4: But I cannot physically get out of this, Like I

531
00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:50,920
Speaker 4: feel so attached.

532
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:52,560
Speaker 2: I can't. It's a trauma bond.

533
00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 4: You form a trauma bond that's so hard to get

534
00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,240
Speaker 4: out of, and like you just want, like the person

535
00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,520
Speaker 4: that abuses you, you just want that comfort from that

536
00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,359
Speaker 4: person and the validation.

537
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:04,880
Speaker 1: And like, yeah, I just want to know what they're

538
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:05,840
Speaker 1: thinking all the time.

539
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 4: But I'm so glad that I did it because like

540
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 4: I genuinely like sometimes I'm like.

541
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 2: Oh, this is so bad, Like it's so hard.

542
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,960
Speaker 3: But like sometimes I'm like, no, you do, and you know,

543
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:20,639
Speaker 3: I mean at an event the other week.

544
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 2: She's like yeah.

545
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 3: Sometimes like he's just like really hot, and I'm like,

546
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 3: show me a photo and she shows me, No, he's not.

547
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,200
Speaker 4: You know the best thing about that is that every

548
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:32,880
Speaker 4: time I show a picture of him to my friends,

549
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 4: they go, what what, They're like one.

550
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 1: Of the hottest people I've ever seen in my life.

551
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 3: And I thought this man like the stuff I had

552
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,919
Speaker 3: heard that you had spoken to me about him, and

553
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,119
Speaker 3: like I hadn't seen a photo and I was like

554
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 3: this man has got to be the hottest thing that's

555
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,640
Speaker 3: ever walked on the earth with the amount of opportunities

556
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:53,640
Speaker 3: was given him.

557
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 2: She shows, I'm like, maybe, actually, are you.

558
00:21:59,160 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 1: Gonna show me?

559
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,120
Speaker 2: Like, oh, friend, and then you're getting there. Oh that's

560
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:02,880
Speaker 2: so funny.

561
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:07,879
Speaker 4: I mean it's just tall of course, because it's they

562
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 4: it's the hype.

563
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.

564
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 4: But like also just like we did have a lot,

565
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,679
Speaker 4: like we were like deeply connected. Like I feel like

566
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,159
Speaker 4: we actually had like really good, deep conversations. I'm a

567
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 4: very deep person. I need someone that's going to be

568
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,880
Speaker 4: on that level with me. Yeah, And when it was good,

569
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,719
Speaker 4: it was like that, but when it was bad, it

570
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:23,440
Speaker 4: was so bad.

571
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,159
Speaker 3: Like and then so when you went through maths and

572
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 3: then all of that stuff happened, and that kind of

573
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 3: then became like a big storyline in the show.

574
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,160
Speaker 1: Did you ever explain to Tim like.

575
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 3: What had been happening or you'd never spoken about your past?

576
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:36,919
Speaker 1: No, I didn't.

577
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 4: I briefly mentioned my ex, but I didn't really go

578
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 4: into detail about what happened. And I think that at

579
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,640
Speaker 4: that point as well, because we me and my ex

580
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,679
Speaker 4: weren't speaking, we decided not to speak basically till the

581
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,639
Speaker 4: show was done, I was kind of trying with Tim,

582
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 4: and towards the end you can see that we were

583
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 4: kind of trying, but like as much as I tried.

584
00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,159
Speaker 2: We just couldn't get along. Like and I don't know

585
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 2: if he knows now, like Tim and I are blocked,

586
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 2: like he blocked me like ages ago. But I don't

587
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 2: know if he knows anything about it.

588
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,479
Speaker 4: And I would hope that you could see it and

589
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 4: maybe resonate with maybe how I was acting, because I

590
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 4: look back and I genuinely hate how I acted.

591
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 2: I do, like that's not who I am.

592
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 4: But I think because I was hiding so much like

593
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 4: I was lying, that it showed in the way that

594
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 4: I was acting, like I was trying so much to

595
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 4: cover up the things that I was doing in the background,

596
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 4: trying to protect what was going on with him and

597
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 4: him that I was acting like such a bitch to Tim,

598
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 4: like it was just yeah, it was, it was bad.

599
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

600
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,439
Speaker 3: And so has anybody else come out once you posted

601
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 3: this whole series? You obviously got that message from the

602
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 3: hay Giry.

603
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And what.

604
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,679
Speaker 1: I'm confused about is why no one came.

605
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 2: Out about it before? About him?

606
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 1: Yes, Like, have you ever received another Hay girls.

607
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 4: So he is so private, Sam, like he and this

608
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,439
Speaker 4: is something that I now I'm picking up on all.

609
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 2: These things right. His Instagram, his profile picture first, he's private.

610
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 4: His prople picture is a picture of his friend, like

611
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 4: a big close up picture of like one of his friends.

612
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 4: It's not even him. His name on Instagram is not

613
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 4: his name. His Facebook is fully private, like.

614
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 2: Nothing's on it.

615
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, like blocked to count yep, blocked to count Like

616
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 4: he is the most private person ever. So it's like

617
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 4: he does. He doesn't post on Instagram or anything, and

618
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 4: that is so that he can get away with that.

619
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that people, did you ever get upset?

620
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 1: He never posted you.

621
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 4: No, because when we got back together, I couldn't post,

622
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

623
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 2: So yeah, we kind of And I think that that

624
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 2: was like so good for him.

625
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 4: He loved it because he could blame it on the

626
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 4: fact that I couldn't post anything because of the show,

627
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 4: or that we had to be secret because of the show.

628
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 1: And that was so perfect for her pick it up.

629
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,719
Speaker 4: But No, I was never upset because like I couldn't

630
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 4: do it and I didn't want to post him. Yeah,

631
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 4: I didn't want that to get out like for the

632
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,360
Speaker 4: longest time, I never thought I was going to tell

633
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 4: this story. I was like, yeah, he's just going to

634
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 4: be a new guy that I met, Like.

635
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 2: Wow, do you know what I mean refreshing? Yeah, exactly.

636
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 4: Oh anyway, so yep, no, So you asked me, did

637
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 4: any other girls come forward when I posted those tiktoks?

638
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 2: I didn't even name him.

639
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 4: The amount of women that came forward knowing that it

640
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 4: was him is insane, like insane. I had two other

641
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 4: girls that were seeing him at the same time that

642
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,959
Speaker 4: told me around the times where they like they were

643
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 4: dating him.

644
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 2: Same stories.

645
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 4: He would bring them to his new house that he's

646
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 4: building and say this is going to be our room,

647
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 4: this is going to be our this, calling them bobs,

648
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 4: honey pop, whatever his nicknames are, to all of them,

649
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 4: love bombing them that I love you, she said to

650
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 4: the last girl, he said I love you to her

651
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 4: within like a month of knowing her. Nah, yeah, same shit,

652
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 4: like everything. And then it was so funny because some

653
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 4: some someone made a fake account I think because and

654
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 4: I think it was like one of his excess friends.

655
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie And she.

656
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 4: Was like, she wrote on my TikTok being like, if

657
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 4: this isn't, I will eat my own heart. She named him,

658
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 4: and then his name started trending on my TikTok.

659
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 2: Come on, come on, I'm so good.

660
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 3: I always say, if you don't want a story made

661
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 3: about you, don't fuck me over.

662
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 2: Don't like you know, like, just don't just be a

663
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 2: good person like.

664
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: You fucked me over.

665
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 4: It's my story to tell, exactly. And I'm not sitting here.

666
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 4: I wasn't sitting there like I want to hurt him.

667
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 4: I was sitting there like, you've hurt me enough. Because

668
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 4: I'm keeping this a secret. I have ruined my reputation.

669
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 4: I have ruined a lot of opportunities that I could

670
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 4: have had coming off this show being different because of you.

671
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 2: You ruined that for me, and now I'm not going

672
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 2: to protect you anymore.

673
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's like holding him accountable. Absolutely, He's gotten

674
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,199
Speaker 3: away for so long, and.

675
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 4: I'm so sick and tired of men getting away with shit.

676
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 4: They and it's always the like tall ones, the successful ones,

677
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 4: the ones that are like on paper so amazing, that

678
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 4: get away with murder because women look at them and

679
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 4: they go, well, there's so many shit men out there,

680
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 4: I may as well he's this, he's out, and we

681
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 4: kind of put all those things aside, and it's like,

682
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 4: why are we doing this. We're part of the problem.

683
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 4: We need to walk away when it doesn't serve us anymore.

684
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, because of all of the people that come forward

685
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 3: and everything like that, I just don't understand why he

686
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 3: got away with it for so.

687
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 1: Long, do you know what I mean?

688
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 3: Like, I know another story of this woman that's like

689
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 3: also in the scene and she got cheated on and

690
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 3: stuff like that.

691
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: As women, we all need a band together, and I

692
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: like about it, post photos of it. Like isn't there

693
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: like a Facebook group chat or something like that.

694
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 2: It's like, oh my god, I tried.

695
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 4: They didn't accept my post because now, like men are

696
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 4: so women on that group chat, which is so not okay,

697
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 4: do not do this. But if you put a guy

698
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,959
Speaker 4: on there, don't tell the fucking guy. Like apparently there

699
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 4: was women. There was women going telling the guys that

700
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 4: they were on this group chat. So now and then

701
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 4: people were getting sued. So now you need proof, like

702
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 4: actual proof that these men are abusive or cheating or whatever.

703
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 4: And I didn't have any proof of it. The only

704
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 4: proof that I had, well, did I do now. But

705
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 4: at the time, the only proof that I had was

706
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 4: maybe one message where he like agreed with me that

707
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 4: he had cheated on his ex with me, and that

708
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 4: was it.

709
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 2: They didn't accept my post, so I didn't post it.

710
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 4: But I do think that, like like in Perth, he

711
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 4: has quite a bad rep.

712
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 2: So I don't think that. I do think people know

713
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 2: who he is.

714
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 4: I do think that he has a bit of an

715
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 4: issue now, especially with my videos because a lot of

716
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 4: people have seen them.

717
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 2: I also got another.

718
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 4: Hay Girly message yesterday, so they're still coming through. I

719
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 4: got a hay Girly message and she goes ohn she

720
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 4: commented on my TikTok. She goes, I DM do you

721
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 4: And I read it and she goes, hey, babe, thank

722
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 4: you so much for your videos. I was just seeing

723
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 4: him and I ended it with him today because of

724
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 4: your videos.

725
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: Oh so he's fucked with lot.

726
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you need to like move to Bali or

727
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 3: something like that, just like he's not.

728
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

729
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 4: So she broke it off with him basically the same story,

730
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 4: and then she yeah, she texted him and he was like, well,

731
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 4: like what what happened? And she was like, I found

732
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 4: out some things about you that I didn't like and

733
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 4: he's like should I be concerned, acting like he had

734
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 4: no idea?

735
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 3: You know, mane, you know, you know Australia is a

736
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 3: very very small place in like the whole scheme of things,

737
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 3: like there are so many connections.

738
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, he'll never get away with it anyone.

739
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 4: But I was like, I was like so proud of her.

740
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 4: I was like, she had only been dating him for

741
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 4: three months. But at that point, I'm like, I don't know,

742
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 4: like I'm I feel like kind of dumb that I

743
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 4: seyed for so long.

744
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 2: But she was like nah, like she's like I.

745
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 4: Texted him straight away after your series and I was

746
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 4: like I'm done, and I was like good for you,

747
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 4: Like girl, Yeah, so.

748
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 3: Now you you're like never again, Like never, No, you

749
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:41,479
Speaker 3: cannot ever go back there?

750
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 2: No?

751
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 3: Never. How is now dating now? What is your outlook

752
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 3: on it? Do you think you have like a little

753
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 3: bag like damage from that at all? Or are you

754
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 3: like trust is given to proven guilty or I aren't.

755
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 2: I feel like I've been.

756
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 4: I feel like I am a little bit traumatized, Like

757
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 4: I didn't think that. I was like I'm always kind

758
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 4: of that person and it's like I'm ready to get

759
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 4: hurt again, like jokingly, but like I'm ready to put

760
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 4: myself out there and like do it all over again.

761
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 4: But I was just seeing someone, and I was seeing

762
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 4: I saw two guys since and both kind of ended

763
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 4: within like a month, so it wasn't very long, and

764
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 4: I kind of realized that I was like the intimacy part.

765
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 2: Was really weird for me.

766
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 4: Like I got to a point where I was like,

767
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 4: I don't know, like I just couldn't be intimate, Like

768
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 4: I couldn't do the kissing, I couldn't do the touching.

769
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 2: Like it felt really weird to me.

770
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 4: And so I've realized now that like I think a

771
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 4: little bit of what's happened, especially with like the like

772
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 4: sexual boundaries and stuff that I crossed with my ex,

773
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 4: Like I feel a little bit triggered.

774
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 2: By some things.

775
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I stopped going to therapy because it was

776
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 4: getting a little expensive, But now like I've decided that

777
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 4: I'm going to go back because I just feel like

778
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 4: there's a lot to unpack.

779
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you knew, like you need to like

780
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 3: put in like six months of being like get on

781
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 3: top of this ship because it's so unfair. And I

782
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 3: always say this, Like even like Cheetahs, for example, the

783
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 3: person that you're damaging more is the person you cheated on. Yeah,

784
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 3: and it's like you cheated on me, and now I'm

785
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 3: gonna have to go to all of this therapy.

786
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: I'm the one with the trust issues. I'm the one

787
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: with the damaged.

788
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 2: And they're sitting there fine.

789
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I honestly think there should be a law that

790
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,239
Speaker 4: if someone cheats on you and you have proof, they

791
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 4: should pay for your therapy.

792
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: Hundred pop.

793
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 2: They should pay, Like.

794
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 4: What do you mean I have to fork out all

795
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 4: this money for the trauma you caused me.

796
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's just like ownership and everything like that.

797
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 3: And then it's like yeah, now it's like you have

798
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 3: your guard up and it's like I.

799
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: Didn't want this, I didn't ask this. I just wanted

800
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: you to be a good guy.

801
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 2: I just well, I want Yeah, I wanted it to

802
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 2: be him.

803
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 4: I gave him so much love, like I did everything

804
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 4: for him, and he literally had the perfect woman on

805
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 4: a platter, because, to be honest, he molded me to

806
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 4: be everything he wanted to be. And even then it

807
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 4: wasn't enough, Like even then he was going around sleeping

808
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 4: with whoever.

809
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 2: Like I would love to know.

810
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 4: Actually I wouldn't love to know, because I can only

811
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 4: imagine the disgusting amount of women that he was probably

812
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 4: talking to. And now I think about all these like

813
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 4: little moments and I'm like, oh my god, that time

814
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,239
Speaker 4: that he was in Melbourne and he didn't pick up

815
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 4: this time he was probably sleeping with someone, Like it's

816
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 4: just strong living.

817
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 3: So what would you say then, for people who may

818
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 3: be feeling like they are in a bit of a

819
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 3: narcissistic relationship or they're in like a toxic cycle, what

820
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 3: are some red flags that you wish you picked up

821
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 3: on that you didn't.

822
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 4: I think the biggest one would be communication, Like I

823
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 4: put aside a lot of times where I actually no

824
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 4: like like the effort in it, Like he was just

825
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 4: very much like a very convenient person and blamed a

826
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 4: lot on like his travel and stuff. So if you

827
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 4: see like a man that's like not planning ahead of time,

828
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 4: not like excited to see you and be like can

829
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 4: I can I come see you on Friday and it's.

830
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 2: The beginning of the week.

831
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 4: If he's always making plans on the day, there's something

832
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 4: going on, like he doesn't want to admit to something

833
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 4: that and like planning futures and things too early on.

834
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 4: Like I didn't think it was a red flag because

835
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 4: we had known each other for so long.

836
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, but when we got back together, he was like,

837
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: tell it.

838
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 4: Like saying my name with his last name, talking about

839
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 4: the like the names of our kids and what we're

840
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 4: gonna like just talking about our life together. That stuff

841
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 4: is an instant red flag, Like you should not be

842
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 4: talking about those things until you've at least met the mother.

843
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think always like planning ahead, and like I

844
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 3: think that's what happens.

845
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: With a lot of guys is like they tell.

846
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 3: Women what they want to hear, yeah, and it then

847
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 3: kind of traps you in a way being like no, no,

848
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 3: but he wants that.

849
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: He said to me once that like he does want

850
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: a white.

851
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 3: Pig of pants with the golden treever and two boys,

852
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,959
Speaker 3: like and it's like that's what I want. So like

853
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 3: I'm going to forgive him for what he's done because

854
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:47,719
Speaker 3: like he wants that in the future.

855
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 4: But sometimes when men talk about it too early on,

856
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 4: it's like it is a red flag because men that

857
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 4: actually want kids and a wife will spend the time

858
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 4: and the effort into being a good boyfriend to start

859
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 4: off with. But men that talk about doing those things,

860
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 4: they just want to take it off, Like you know

861
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 4: that men like that are just like it's like a

862
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 4: part of like a male's.

863
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 2: Job to be up to have kids and to have

864
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 2: a wife.

865
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 4: But a man that is actually good will spend the

866
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 4: time in the effort being that person for you, not

867
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,919
Speaker 4: having to tell you that they want those things.

868
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.

869
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,919
Speaker 1: And it's always actions over what they say.

870
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 3: Like I'm now like the biggest believer of like actions

871
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 3: are so much more like I will never believe a

872
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 3: man's words.

873
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 2: No, never, never.

874
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 4: I feel like and that's the best thing about dating

875
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 4: a narcissist is that now I actually have all of

876
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,479
Speaker 4: these like alarm bells that go off if someone calls

877
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,959
Speaker 4: me a pet name straight away, I'm like, you don't

878
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 4: even fucking know me, Like there's no way you're calling

879
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 4: me babe or baby like in the first fucking week,

880
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 4: Like like my ex was calling me that like literally

881
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 4: the second day, and I loved I hain't got shit up.

882
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,439
Speaker 3: That's the thing is you do you grab onto little

883
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 3: things and you hold onto it exactly what they're doing.

884
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 3: Narcissistic people are one of the hardest people to get

885
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 3: to know because they lived so many lives.

886
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 4: Yes, no, I know he was. Yeah, he was definitely

887
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 4: living a few lives.

888
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, anything else that you're like, don't do this,

889
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 3: Like girls learn from me.

890
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 4: I think, like, have some respect for yourself. Like I

891
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 4: don't think that I had any respect for myself at

892
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 4: one point. Like I think the more he pushed away

893
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 4: from me, the more I tried to like get him back.

894
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 4: And I think it's just like it's kind of like

895
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 4: coming outside of that relationship and being like what am

896
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 4: I actually fighting for? Like why am i am I

897
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 4: fighting for? Like anxiety? Am I fighting to live a

898
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 4: life full of anxiety? Like I was like shaking all

899
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 4: the time. I wasn't sleeping, Like why do I want

900
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 4: this man? Actually ask yourself why do you want him?

901
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 4: And if the only thing that you can say is oh,

902
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 4: the sex is good.

903
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 2: Really not it.

904
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: There's more to life than that.

905
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 2: There's more to life than that. But like you know

906
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 2: what I mean, get a little bit like stigmatized.

907
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: Yeah that sucks.

908
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 3: So apart from all this man stuff, how is your

909
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 3: life improved or your outlook improved or anything about you

910
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 3: that's improved since leaving or like anything like that.

911
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 4: Well, I feel like in general, I'm just like focusing

912
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,720
Speaker 4: on myself more. Like I've been getting so many comments

913
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 4: being like you've never looked better, Like you literally are

914
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 4: like glowing in the sense that like you've never looked

915
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 4: this way. And I think it's genuinely because I've finally

916
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 4: let that man go and I'm finally doing things for myself. Yeah,

917
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 4: like focusing on my career, focusing on my friends, you know,

918
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 4: Like I got a dog that was like she's like

919
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 4: she's the love of my life, and like I just

920
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 4: think now I'm focusing on me. I think one of

921
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 4: the major things that I did, and I don't know,

922
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 4: I think a lot of people do when they're in

923
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 4: relationships is like they put themselves aside and do everything

924
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 4: for that person. And I was doing that and now

925
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 4: I'm no longer doing that. So I think that's why

926
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 4: I feel. I do feel really good, Like I feel

927
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 4: so much better, lighter. I'm not crying anymore like I

928
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 4: used to just like burst into tears like randomly, and

929
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 4: like every now and again, I'll get sad, but I'm

930
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 4: like you know what, Like it's not the sadness that

931
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 4: I used to get. Yeah, it's it's a different sadness. Yeah,

932
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 4: I'm still coming to the terms that it's like it

933
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 4: wasn't real, Like it wasn't real, and that stuff hurts,

934
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 4: But it's a different sad because it's no longer attachment.

935
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 4: It's just like grieving the life, the time, like all

936
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 4: of that.

937
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 3: And they would have a lot of anger apart for that,

938
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 3: meaning yeah, in a way, you've wasted so much of

939
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 3: that time that like and I remember we spoke about

940
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 3: it a few weeks ago at an event.

941
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: It's like you never in that time of like when.

942
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 3: You guys would get back together, you break up and

943
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 3: stuff like that, and you would you were single in

944
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 3: that time, you never probably gave someone a chance, even

945
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 3: though they could have been really really good for you.

946
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 3: They could have been the love of your life. But like,

947
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 3: because you had him in the back of your mind,

948
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 3: you an't properly opening yourself up to the receiving that

949
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 3: type of stuff. And that's what I always say, Like

950
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 3: everyone goes like, oh, but I still want to be

951
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 3: friends with my.

952
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: Ex or like I just like like still want him

953
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: in my life.

954
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 3: Or like, yeah, we're not together, but like we sleep

955
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 3: together on like a Saturday night if we're all out.

956
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 3: I'm like, you can say to yourself as much as

957
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 3: you want that you're not together, but if you're still

958
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 3: having that intimate like sexual intimate connection, or you're still

959
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 3: speaking to them here and there every couple of weeks,

960
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 3: you're still holding that attachment that you're not allowing yourself

961
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 3: to meet other people.

962
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not. We can see that. We can turn

963
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 2: it off. Well, we can't. As women, we can't emotional people.

964
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 2: Sex is emotional.

965
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 4: It brings out an emotional like endorphin in us that

966
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 4: makes us fall in love. Like we can't have sex

967
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 4: with our exes and call it sex or call it friendship.

968
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 2: I called it friendship for a while, yeah with.

969
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 3: Gasstating yourself, like galating it exactly.

970
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 4: And I was friends with his friends, so I was like,

971
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 4: we're just friends, but like who reminisced and sometimes kids

972
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 4: like friend's.

973
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: Son, cude, No, we don't walk up and we don't

974
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: share a bed, but you're friends.

975
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 4: I dodn't know, and he knew exactly what he was

976
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 4: doing by like giving me a little every time reminiscing

977
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 4: and being like you're so amazing, you deserve the world,

978
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 4: and you know, I wish things could have been better

979
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 4: for us like that, and then you kind of think, oh,

980
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 4: he still kind of cares about me, you know, and

981
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 4: you hold on hope and you hang out with them,

982
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 4: you hang out with his friends, and yeah, by the

983
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 4: time ten years is over, you're like, I actually never

984
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:26,720
Speaker 4: gave anyone a proper chance.

985
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 2: So now I'm finally like that's cut.

986
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 4: I don't think I'm ready to date per se, Like

987
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 4: I'm not going to be on the app swiping or

988
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 4: anything like that.

989
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 2: But I think if it.

990
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 3: Happened, I think it actually come to you. Yeah, I

991
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 3: think you need to go like on a girl's trip

992
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 3: or something. Yeah, like one year summer to then like

993
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 3: meet the man, let him sweep your feet.

994
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 4: And you're like, I want to go to I want

995
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 4: to go to America. I want to go to Texas.

996
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 4: Like I feel like that's wrong.

997
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: You want to like a countryman?

998
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 2: Yeah on a rant.

999
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 4: No, but like the men there are men, you know, yeah,

1000
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 4: but like they scam me there, but they're so forward

1001
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 4: and confident.

1002
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 2: Like they will just come.

1003
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll be running in the other direction, I'll be

1004
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 3: hopping on his horse and saying, get me.

1005
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 2: Out of here. You don't like it, you don't like

1006
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 2: the confident.

1007
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: No, I don't like like a confident man. I do

1008
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: like a confident man, but I don't like men who

1009
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: like me.

1010
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 2: Okay, you're avoidant.

1011
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 1: I have really bad avoidance.

1012
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah, I'm like anxious at touched. Yeah, which so fair.

1013
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 4: But also like it depends on who. I think that

1014
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 4: it depends on who you meet. Like I think you

1015
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 4: might be avoidant now, but until you meet someone that

1016
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 4: you really like, you might not be that way.

1017
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1018
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: Probably, yeah, but I'm just like an avoidant right now.

1019
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 3: And I'm like I push everyone away because I'm like,

1020
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 3: trust me, you don't want to be around me. Like,

1021
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, I realized that I am probably not the

1022
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 3: best person for you, so I'm like, don't.

1023
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 1: Don't.

1024
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 2: So you're not dating?

1025
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: No, I don't date.

1026
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 3: I like, oh, like I will say yes to a

1027
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 3: day and then I'm like, I'm not going on that

1028
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 3: date because like, and then you be all the time

1029
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 3: I did it last night.

1030
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 1: No, I just don't want to be around But that's fine.

1031
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 4: If you're not ready, you're not ready. Like it's like me,

1032
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 4: like I'm not going to go on a day It's

1033
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 4: going to be a chore for me. Yes, I would

1034
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 4: rather just let it happen naturally, Like I want to

1035
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 4: meet someone at the gym or like at a cafeudn't mind.

1036
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: If someone comes up to you at the gym.

1037
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 2: I wouldn't.

1038
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 4: If I'm finishing my workout, if I'm getting a drink

1039
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 4: or something like, I wouldn't mind. Yeah, Like I think

1040
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 4: it's like it wouldn't be like unless they're being creepy

1041
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 4: about it, Like if it was actually someone those hot,

1042
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 4: I wouldn't mind. I think it's different right, Or at

1043
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 4: the beach, yeah, or at the beach common.

1044
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: Supply maybe just sit out there for a bit atties

1045
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 1: to be honest.

1046
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 2: So they're not the greatest of men over there.

1047
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 4: I'm not going to stereotype, but like Sydney man are

1048
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 4: not really the greatest.

1049
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 3: I think Australian men in general though it's a known thing.

1050
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 3: Like when I went to Europe and then when I

1051
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,720
Speaker 3: was in America this year, like I've done both places.

1052
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: Chivalry isn't dead there.

1053
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 4: No, they actually appreciate women. Yes, my best girlfriend to

1054
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 4: Canada with me, and they took her to this bar

1055
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 4: and a bunch of my friends worked there, and they

1056
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 4: start buying her drinks, like even random guys.

1057
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 2: She goes, did you plan? Did you tell them to

1058
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 2: do this?

1059
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,439
Speaker 4: And I was like no, this is Canada, Like men

1060
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 4: just want to be friends with women, like they actually

1061
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 4: just like they think you're they think you're hard. They

1062
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 4: want to buy you a drink and they want.

1063
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 2: To hang out with you. Like they're not like.

1064
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 3: In like when I was in London, like any man

1065
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 3: would just buy you a drink that not because it's

1066
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 3: just like thank you for being here.

1067
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's like thank you for being here. Do

1068
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 4: you want to hang out with my group of friends?

1069
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 2: Yeah? And it's like it's not awkward, it's not in

1070
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 2: a weird way.

1071
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: They're just like, yeah, come have fun, like let's all

1072
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: be like one group. Then it's all fun.

1073
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 3: But in Australia it's like if I buy you drink,

1074
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 3: it's almost like they want you to get on your

1075
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 3: knees and like.

1076
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: Be like thank you so much for my vocal.

1077
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 4: I'm sorried off because they're all princesses here. They all

1078
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 4: just want princess treatment. Like the amount of men that

1079
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 4: are like, oh yeah, like I don't want a girl

1080
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:54,959
Speaker 4: to like use me for my money.

1081
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, what money? Yeah, what do you mean? I

1082
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,919
Speaker 2: have money? But like take me out on a date,

1083
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 2: Like what do you mean?

1084
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1085
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: I think you need like a you, I think you

1086
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:06,399
Speaker 1: need a European man.

1087
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 2: I don't. I like it's so bad.

1088
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 4: I don't know if I like, like we spoke about

1089
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 4: this because you were saying all like like your like

1090
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 4: fling or whatever. It was like foreign, and I was

1091
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 4: like I just couldn't do it. Like I feel like

1092
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 4: I like like Aussie men, like you're like a bit

1093
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 4: rough around the edges. Little well, I just want to know,

1094
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 4: not rough around the edges. And I like a pretty boy, yeah,

1095
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:26,720
Speaker 4: like what's your time?

1096
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 2: Tall six five six seven, No, tall.

1097
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 4: Like not like super like like not like dark dark

1098
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 4: hair like grizzly or anything, but just like a pretty

1099
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 4: boy like clean, clean cut, like like not like blonde,

1100
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 4: but like just like you know, I like curly hair

1101
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 4: on guys too, super curly.

1102
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 3: But really, well, if any of you guys hit the

1103
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 3: description on that, just like find Sarah atbeach and go

1104
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 3: up to her, don't message her.

1105
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 1: She doesn't want that go to her gym, stalk her gym,

1106
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: and just go. But be safe. When it clocs to that,

1107
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 1: drop your right, drop your location, where's all of that?

1108
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: Sarah will be there.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, well, thank you so much for coming on

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Speaker 3: hotter than yesterday and sharing your story about how you

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Speaker 3: dated a narcissist. I'm so sorry that you went through that,

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Speaker 3: and thank you for being great entertainment on MATHS even

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Speaker 3: though it was probably a little bit traumatizing for you.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I really.

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Speaker 3: Wish you all the I think something great is coming

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Speaker 3: for you because you are radiating.

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Speaker 1: I think you're the best version of yourself.

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Speaker 3: So now something is going to really come through and

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Speaker 3: you're going to have the.

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Speaker 1: Life that you always I appreciate it, right, Thank you, guys,

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Speaker 1: and I'll see you guys next week. Bye.